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B-1 Stealth Bomber "Friendly Fire" Strike Kills 5 US Soldiers In Afghanistan

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It seems President Obama's "pullback" is not going as planned in Afghanistan. NBC News reports 5 U.S. soldiers killed in Afghanistan may have been the victims of a friendly-fire incident. American and Afghan troops were conducting security sweeps on polling sites ahead of this weekend's run-off for the Afghan presidential election when they came under attack from Taliban forces. The Americans called in an airstrike amid fierce fighting and, according to U.S. officials, the B-1 Stealth Bomber strike somehow went terribly awry.

 

 

Via NBC News,

Five U.S. soldiers killed in Afghanistan may have been the victims of a friendly-fire incident, officials said Tuesday.

 

The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said five of its servicemen had died Monday during a security operation in southern Afghanistan when their unit came in contact with enemy forces.

 

"Tragically, there is the possibility that fratricide may have been involved," ISAF said in a statement. "The incident is under investigation."

 

It did not provide further details on the incident or soldiers' nationalities, adding only that the coalition's "thoughts are with the families of those killed."

 

Defense and military officials told NBC News that the soldiers were members of U.S. special forces working with the Afghan military.

 

The American and Afghan troops were conducting security sweeps on polling sites ahead of this weekend's run-off for the Afghan presidential election when they came under attack from Taliban forces, the officials explained.

 

The Americans called in an airstrike amid fierce fighting and, according to U.S. officials, the B-1 Stealth Bomber strike somehow went terribly awry.

 

The police chief of Zabul province, Gen. Gulam Sakhi Rogh Lewanai, also told NBC News that the joint ISAF-Afghan army patrol came under attack Monday evening. He said one Afghan national army soldier died in the botched airstrike.

Mission Accomplished...?

 

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Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:15 | 4840369 Headbanger
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WTF WERE THEY DOING USING A B-FUCKING-1 BOMBER FOR A GROUND SUPPORT MISSION!!?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:16 | 4840378 rtalcott
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When the only tool you have is a hammer....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:22 | 4840417 john39
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practice for Syria/Iran?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:34 | 4840441 Thought Processor
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The conspiritorist within me wonders if perhaps those 5 SOF personel knew too much.

 

Because you know, wouldn't be the first time...............

 

Like when the Bin Laden SOF unit gets taken out almost in it's entirety and then the rest die in a training crash.  

Things that make you go Hmmmm......

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023123/Special-forces-helicopte...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:34 | 4840476 The Proletariat
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Infastructure rebuilding plan....like the F-16's sold to I rack for infastructure building.....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:11 | 4840593 thamnosma
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F16's soon to be in the hands of Al Qaeda.  Of course, they'll have to hire mercenary pilots, but likely no shortage of those.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:10 | 4841077 knukles
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B-1 ground support?
When asked, the president tapped and stomped his feet repeatedly and stated that he was outraged that some how, such nefarious ah.... terribly consequences could uh... hmmmm... I ah, promised and have delivered thereupon.... and uh.... we ah... the divide is mostly in part likely the Bundy ranch people who ah... are um... Bush supporters surfacing the hideous divide... bunch a fucking racists.... and ah....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:42 | 4841499 COSMOS
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Yep we don't need the A10 Groundhog cut the funding for it.... sarcasm

Seriously we have all seen the infrared imaging from drones etc, you can even see the turbans on the mofos, how can you not see what you are going to hit.

Anyways, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, the death of more Americans for God knows what, the Taliban will have that ground in a few months, and we have accomplished destroying our economy in the ME and Afghanistan, we didnt learn from the Soviets or the Brits

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:41 | 4842638 Rootin' for Putin
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Im sure black/grey/water/stone has an aviation division.
Pay your money and they will blow it up.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:38 | 4840489 Thought Processor
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In case the downvoters need more info. on the above-

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/20/families-suspect-seal-te...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:36 | 4840708 Miles Ahead
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(pssst... that was Hitlery that downvoted you.  Don't worry...)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:02 | 4841546 COSMOS
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It just sickens my heart to see the pics of those fine American boys cut down in a BS country, and their deaths are just photops  for a bunch of F***IN politicians (they fold in their lips in and try to look serious)  in DC who go out and eat at fine restaurants on our tab later that night.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:41 | 4840501 icanhasbailout
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Wonders? That was my first thought and the most probable explanation of events. Remember Extortion-17.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:20 | 4840631 Canadian Dirtlump
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If they try to bomb them by air it will rain planes and if they try to bomb them by sea the seabed will have more iron to turn into reefs. They know this which is why they backed off last year after they blamed Dr. Assad for the chemical attack they helped the rebels prosecute.

 

Make no mistake, war will start when we get the economic meltdown they have been engineering. As for this, they are cutting out the middleman. Between bad foreign policy and drone bombing wedding receptions and petting zoos the west makes more terrorists than it kills but this way they can just straight up kill some troops instead of radicalizing some farmers who then go kill some troops.

 

viva opium.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:22 | 4840421 Headbanger
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I bet OBOMBA ORDERED THE B-1 STRIKE TO DEMONSTRATE ITS COMBAT READINESS TO PUTIN!

This also explains why Obamba fired numerous Air Force Generals who probably were against such stupid shit like that!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:25 | 4840437 TahoeBilly2012
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Hope and change. The "change" is two nickles and three cents, keep it.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:39 | 4840491 Thought Processor
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You keep the hope, they'll keep the change.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:14 | 4840605 TBT or not TBT
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The B1 is an old bomber that has been delivering smart bombs over Afghanistan since before Obama took office. It is used for close air support of troops on the ground every day. They are not stealthy. They hang out over 20k feet, wih the weapons officer in charge of the plane in close contact with ground troops who generally order the strikes. Lately the weapons officer can see a lot of what is happening, sometimes better than ground troops, thanks to the addition of the "sniper pod" mounted a few years ago. When they land after delivering ordinance, they get interviewed by about their performance, which is observed real time back at base. JAG is there to prosecute bad bombings.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:02 | 4840986 cbxer55
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Exactly! The Bone is not a stealth bomber. It has very minimal stealth capability.

The STEALTH BOMBER is the Northrup Grumman B-2. 

I worked on both when they were built. The B-1's engiine intakes are right out in the open, as are it's exhaust. That completely negates any stealth capability at all. The B-2's engines are buried in the wing, with the intakes dropping steeply to the engines. And the exhaust outlets, especially inside are very unique to say the least. Seen them first hand, removed and installed them. 

Don't use Bone and stealth in the same sentence.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:30 | 4840464 intric8
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"When the only tool you have is a hammer...."

its time to save up for a nail gun

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:19 | 4840625 JailBanksters
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Nailed Them

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:17 | 4840380 autofixer
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Pols in DC have a fear of flight crew being dragged through the streets.  B-1s fly really high & "to make an omlette, you have to break a few eggs."

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:13 | 4840600 thamnosma
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You might be closer to the truth than anybody else here.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:52 | 4841557 COSMOS
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Dont matter how high up they are, their eyes can be a small drone a few hundred feet up offering solid imaging, NO Excuse for the mishap.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:49 | 4840999 cbxer55
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The BONE was intended to be a low level, ground hugging bomber. The first four built in the late 70's were for high altitude supersonic flight. The 100 B-1b's built were designed and built for low level, below sonic missions. Maybe something has changed, but the original intention was not high altitude, although the capability is certainly there. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:28 | 4840381 Ozy_mandias
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Can't help but think of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wshyX6Hw52I

Edit: When I was over there they usually had a B-1 on standby somewhere over the country. They flew out of Diego Garcia. Pretty handy in a tight spot. Mostly because they can carry enough munitions for multiple fire support missions. It is mentioned in the thread but the chances of the FOO/FAC getting the coordinates wrong is the most probable. These guys usually get it right. They just essentially have to plug number into their comp.

Edit: Edit: This not a B-2 Spirit Stealth bomber. This is a B1 Lancer. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:18 | 4840623 TBT or not TBT
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Exactly right. They moved to a closer base later, and got delivered "sniper pods" so the weapons officer sees what is going on on the ground. Before that they just devivered to coordinates and timing given by ground support. With the pod, they can see things the ground forces can't see, and sometimes make their own fire mission if the situation warrants it (to save ground troops).

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:31 | 4840923 Wait What
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more like this: "you dumb motherfucker, sir, even the most boot fucked marine knows danger close"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9uXLzZyucI

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:18 | 4840389 achmachat
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thermonuclear ground support?!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:19 | 4840396 Antarctico
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WTF WERE THEY DOING USING A B-FUCKING-1 BOMBER FOR A GROUND SUPPORT MISSION!!?

You have expensive toys, you play with expensive toys. As for the soldiers killed, do you really think the psychopathic freaks running the war in Afghanistan give a shit?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:27 | 4840414 JustObserving
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“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”


Henry Kissinger

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:14 | 4840606 thamnosma
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Thank God we have leaders like that.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:47 | 4840748 Miles Ahead
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Leader?  He wasn't your leader.  He was your public servant. Hope that makes it better.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:40 | 4840724 falak pema
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Dr Strangelove couldn't have said it any better.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:44 | 4840738 teslaberry
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when you have a state department everything is a chess match.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:23 | 4840642 TBT or not TBT
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THe B-1 is great for close air support. The troops love. Love. Having those overhead. Lots of ordinance. Extreme precision. Very long dwell time over country. The air force has upgraded the B-1 for this mission there, close air support. From 20k feet.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:20 | 4840402 firstdivision
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So the Taliban's SAM's and radar do not pick them up.....

 

The question that we will never have answered, is whether the troops provied or the bomber dropped on, the incorrect coordinates

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:20 | 4840409 Mr Pink
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Just Barry's way of nipping those future VA complaints in the bud

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:33 | 4840471 Emergency Ward
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mr pink wins the most true statement of the day award...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:21 | 4840416 Z_End
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They have been using B-1s in ground support there for years. Lots of payload and it gets to the fight quickly. Besides they spent all that money on the progam, they have to show some kind of return on investment.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:22 | 4840426 papaswamp
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Decommisioning of the A-10 CAS .

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:33 | 4840473 Jumbotron
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Uhhh.....the B1-B is not exactly stealth.

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/B1s.jpg

 

It was back in the day.  But compared to a B-2......not exactly.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:45 | 4840510 rubiconsolutions
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"WTF WERE THEY DOING USING A B-FUCKING-1 BOMBER FOR A GROUND SUPPORT MISSION!!?"

For the same reason neurosurgeons use a chainsaw when doing brain surgery. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:52 | 4840531 Freddie
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Total idiocy.  The B-1 like the C-5 and old B-58 are maint nightmares.  They are insanely expensive to operate.  Ground support.  Evil morons.  These endless meaningless wars and Americans don;t say a word.  "Support the Military!"  No.  Don't send your kid to be killed by these criminals.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:28 | 4841146 Jumbotron
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Yeah....but back in the day the B-58 Hustler was a bad-ass mo-fo.  Before intercontinental ballistic missiles we were going to use these to hit Russia quick and hard from Alaska.

http://b58hustlerassn.net/enginerun.jpg

http://www.aviationspectator.com/files/images/Convair-B-58-Hustler-003.p...

http://jetpilotoverseas.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/convair_b-58a_hustle...

https://i.imgur.com/udE1x.jpg

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:03 | 4840572 TBT or not TBT
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The B-1 is Very routinely used for close air support in Afgahnistan. It can stay on patrol for long periods and carries a lot of ordinance . Once over country the weapons officer takes control (pilot and others do what he says) and the weapons officer communicates directly with forces on the ground, coordi sting GPS coordinates and timing of strikes. From around 20k ft altitude.

By the way it is NOT a "stealth" bomber. It hails from the 1970's from memory. Cold war thing meant to arrive at ground hugging altitudes then fire cruise missiles that do the same.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:05 | 4840579 Teaser
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The B-1 Bomber is not a STEALTH bomber.  The B-2 bomber is a stealth bomber.  Fucking news agencies are so full of retards.  

And yeah, WTF are they using a B-1 for in such close quarters.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:22 | 4840637 maskone909
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pretty soon b-1's will be used to collect revenues for unpaid parking tickets.  whats that?  late on your monthly student loan payment?  here is a cluster bomb.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:16 | 4840612 bill1102inf
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What were they doing? They were using the B1 for a ground support mission. Been doing that since the invasion.  The nice thing about the B1 is it flies at such high altitude it can get bombs to your location VERY quickly even if it is far away.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:11 | 4840841 Law97
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Another great (although tragic) example of the Air Force's misguided effort to retire the A-10 attack plane.  The A-10 is THE BEST close air support aircraft ever developed, as ANY soldier, marine, or airman will tell you.  It operates at low altitude, has a very tight turning radius, and the pilots almost always will visually engage targets after positive ID or at least locating the target visually using smoke grendades or "walking in" rounds while in radio contact with ground observers.  The A-10 uses a 30mm automatic cannon that is one of the most powerful cannons ever deployed on an aircraft, in fact it was designed to take out front-line Russian tanks.  The A-10 has proven to be the best aircraft for counterinsurgency too.  The cannon rounds can be selected and loaded to be high explosive (HE) rather than armor piercing, which gives it a tremendous anti-personnel capability while limiting collateral damage.

I could go on and on about how the A-10 is the most effective close air support aircraft ever built, but I emplore anyone who is interested to research for themselves and see.  Plus you can ask any soldier or marine who has seen combat in Iraq or Afghanistan and they will tell you without hesitation that their favorite airplane is the A-10.

Had they used an A-10 down low rather than a B-1 at 30,000 feet, this tragedy almost certainly wouldn't have happened. 

So why is the Air Force wanting to retire the A-10?  Because the Air Force leadership (and DoD) is bought and paid for by the defense lobby.  While pushing the F-35 at the behest of the defense lobby, the air force siad that the F-35 could do the A-10's mission, and if not the F-35, then the B-1, F-16, and F-15.  They have been trying to sell the F-35 to Congress so hard, they took the position that the A-10 was now obsolete.  Cutting all 225 A-10's will save about $4 billion over ten years.  That's enough to buy (but not even operate) about 20 F-35's.  Add in the cost of operating the F-35 which is orders of magnitude more expensive per hour than the simple and robust A-10, and you end up with about 10 operation F-35's for the cost of over 200 A-10's. 

This latest tragedy demonstrates the need to keep the A-10 which performs close air support better than any plane in history, by far.  The F-35, the B-1, and other high-altitude aircraft CANNOT perform close air support anywhere near as effectively as the proven A-10.  In this era of needed defense budget cuts, putting all our eggs in the F-35 basket is a terrible mistake being driven by the cronyism at the top of our armed forces and defense industry.  Congress needs to do the right thing for America and tell the defense lobby they can take their bloated over-budget F-35 and put it out to pasture, and keep the proven (and far less expensive, which is the problem if you are a defense contractor) existing A-10.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:58 | 4841583 Atticus Finch
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In a simulated computer combat exercise, 140 F-35 went up against the SU-27s. Of the 140 F-35 only 35 returned to base after the exercise. The comment of those simulating the SU-27s, "It was like clubbing baby seals."

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:10 | 4841345 Jack Burton
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"Headbanger" Just my first thought as well! This only makes sense IF the US Air Force requested to be allowed to use the B-1 in this role as a sort of way to train pilots and aircrew for missions. Instead of a totally training mission, they may be letting them fly to this combat zone and drop bombs in support ONLY as a means to practice and train. OTHERWISE, spending money on a B-1 mission is totally insane in this context.

In any case, Taliban are still strong and control much of Afghanistan after over a decade of US troops fighting and winning every battle. So, we might ask what we got for the money and the lives of US troops. In fact, we will leave nearly a full infantry division in country when we withdraw, add in contractors and you get maybe the 20,000 combat troops number!

Anyways, in Iraq today, Al-Qaeda has captured a major northern city and the US trained troops are reported to have run away and left all their US made heavy weapons behind. In Ukraine, America's funded Ukrainian army has lost 3 tanks captured by the self defense forces of SE Ukraine, plus they destroyed a Grad rocket launcher that was being used to attack a city held by the SDF.

One might ask, how are our puppets doing after we spent trillions on them? How are all these wars going? The SDF also knocked out 2 Ukrainian tanks and just deployed air defense radars that will allow SDF to knock down more Ukrainian aircraft.

All we do is spend money, lose troops, hire puppets who are useless and genreally screw everything up.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:17 | 4840382 youngman
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Hi altitude JCPMs.....they are in the air all the time...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:17 | 4840383 Urban Redneck
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A B-1 or a B-2? A B-1 is not very stealthy...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:45 | 4840509 HelluvaEngineer
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I've heard claims that they have the most sophisticated radar jamming tech in the US arsenal.  But yes, once again the press didn't bother to fact-check anything.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:01 | 4840557 HellFish
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Thanks for bringing this up.  The title is confusing.  The B1 is often used for ground support but the "Stealth Bomber" term is usually used for the B2. 

BTW, The B1 is a little stealthy, but not Stealth stealthy as we've come to know it.

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:17 | 4840385 Dr. Engali
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"Freindly fire" now there is a fucked up term.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:18 | 4840394 rtalcott
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Worse than Friendly Fire? (just pulling your chain...)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:22 | 4840406 Dr. Engali
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It's all good. I saw my error and tried to fix it, but you were too quick on the draw. Now I shall take my lumps.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:02 | 4840565 Jumbotron
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Death by misdirected Welcome Wagon.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:18 | 4840387 rtalcott
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Typical use of "Stealth Bomber" would mean a B-2 NOT a B-1.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:18 | 4840390 GOLD AND SILVER...
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Definitely mission accomplished.  Al-Cia-da backed forces also took control of the second largest Iraqi city over the weekend, forcing out the US trained troops.

 

American mothers, please continue to raise strong men and women for the banking cartel to chew up in meaningless foreign wars.  Its your patriotic duty to feed the meat grinder.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:18 | 4840391 GOLD AND SILVER...
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Definitely mission accomplished.  Al-Cia-da backed forces also took control of the second largest Iraqi city over the weekend, forcing out the US trained troops.

 

American mothers, please continue to raise strong men and women for the banking cartel to chew up in meaningless foreign wars.  Its your patriotic duty to feed the meat grinder.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:18 | 4840392 Peter Pan
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A mother's mourning is never at an end.

If wars could be declared only by mothers, I am certain this world would be vastly different.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:21 | 4840413 blabam
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Hilrod? 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:12 | 4840846 Peter Pan
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Give me a break people. I said MOTHERS, I didn't say by ANY MOTHER.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:36 | 4841192 Zerozen
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So a mother's mourning is more mournful than a father's mourning?

Could we say that if fathers were in charge of declaring war, we would rarely ever have wars? Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:21 | 4840420 thamnosma
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That's why the world awaits Hillary

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:28 | 4840454 Four chan
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did anyone see ole keg leg's free infomercial last night on ch 7?

on a side note the media are priming our minds for shoeing in the power mad carpetbagger on the show veep.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:20 | 4840578 WillyGroper
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Gee, Lemme guess what kind of moron down votes such a statement. 

I'll just add that Hitlary isn't of the same caliber as Pat Tillman's mother.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:21 | 4840401 Save_America1st
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That really sucks.  R.I.P. guys...sorry you even had to be over there in the first place.  It's all just a big scam and massive waste of human lives.  And why...so that we can fight cavemen in a foreign country in the name of "protecting Americans from terrorism" which is really just a bullshit scam to take away our rights and freedom in the name of bigger, more tyrannical government and the militray industrial complex.  Oh, and don't forget the heroin.  Gotta protect the poppie fields so that heroin can be sold in America to fuck the people up and launder drug money throught the banks in order to fund more weapons, black ops, CIA, 3rd world country invasions, the private prison industrial complex, and more corrupt, treasonous, fascist politicians. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:36 | 4840484 duo
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noy only that, if wre catch a top terrorist, we let him go free to perpetuate the war.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:47 | 4841534 Atticus Finch
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The Bin Laden family jet was allowed to leave Reagan National Airport on 911 when the entire air space of the US was in shut down.

Check the long history of the relationship of the Bush and Bin Laden families.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:15 | 4841365 Jack Burton
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Good post "Save_America1st". We people are the victims of the neo-con scam. They use us like foolish puppets to fund and provide soldiers for the bankers wars. Who profits from all this? Follow the money, that will lead you to the criminal gangs who rule America.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:43 | 4841514 Atticus Finch
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You forgot to mention the oil pipeline to run through Afghanistan, which is the only reason for the war, except that vast mineral wealth has also been discovered so now the US must continue to slaughter Afgans until all the resources are stolen and an oil pipeline runs to the Indian Ocean

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 22:54 | 4847287 IronForge
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Mister Finch,

You forget the value of the Opium Poppy and Cannabis.  Afghanistan is on the Top of the World in their production as well.   

 

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:20 | 4840405 blabam
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Remind me not to become friends with a B-1 bomber. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:20 | 4840407 thamnosma
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Meanwhile, in Iraq the 2nd largest city, Mosul, has been overrun by Al Qaeda in Syria and Iraq.  They have control of military bases.  Good to see utter chaos in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan.  Where next?  Pakistan?  It's just that Pakistan, unlike the Iran, actually possesses dozens of nukes and the delivery systems to send them a couple thousand KM from its territory.   Can't wait until Al Qaeda or the Taliban gets those....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:22 | 4840427 Mr Pink
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Rejoice people of Iraq! The benevolent US government has freed you from your tyrannical leader and delivered you to a democratic utopia. The US should liberate every country on Earth from their corrupt dictatorships and install a fair, honest and transparent government like our own. Only if you have lots of oil or opium

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:29 | 4840463 Four chan
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instability is the new stability.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:25 | 4840438 oklaboy
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but but but Al Quida is on the run, and GM is alive!!! the Obamster said soooooooooo

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:56 | 4841573 cbxer55
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Off topic, but where in Oklahoma do you reside Oklaboy? I'm in Oklahoma as well, central.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:22 | 4840425 Aknownymouse
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Releasing 5 taliban terrorists looks more and more like a brilliant decision by the undercover muslim in the white house

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:24 | 4840430 Smegley Wanxalot
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So this means Oblowhard can release 25 more taliban maggots from Gitmo, right?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:26 | 4840654 Terminus C
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Shut the place down.  It is totally unconstitutional.

Why do you assume anyone in Gitmo has actually done anything?  Due process? No.  Transparent procedures and evidence? No.  

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:25 | 4840436 Jameson18
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I wonder how many of the troops knew the real story about the prisoner swap. Just like seal team 6 getting shot down in a helicopter.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:26 | 4840439 intric8
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From the poroshenko school of taking out hostiles

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:28 | 4840450 replaceme
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B1 or Stealth?  2 planes.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:34 | 4840465 1stepcloser
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so the B1 is the new A10...good to know!  Joke.. but I know how this happened!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyakI9GeYRs

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:35 | 4840468 Billy Sol Estes
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They were probably rabid right wing Bundy supportin TeaTards who needed to be taught a lesson.

Democrats 4ever Biatch!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:34 | 4840475 DannoH
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I was under the impression that the B-2 was the stealth bomber, and the B1(B) was the previous generation supersonic nuclear cruise missile delivery platform?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:57 | 4841032 cbxer55
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The B-1a was designed to be supersonic. The B-1b's were intended to be low leverl, below sonic penetration bombers. Sonic flight at low levels is very hard on fuel supply. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:59 | 4841039 I Write Code
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Yes, it was probably an editing error, but even the B-1B is relatively stealthy.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:10 | 4841343 Atticus Finch
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The B1-B might be stealthy in widest sense of the usage because it is a supposedly beneath radar, low-level penetrator, but it is not a stealth aircraft in the current sense of the word, that would be the B-2

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:51 | 4841470 cbxer55
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Not really. The only thing added to the Bone for stealth was some RAM material placed at strategic places around the aircraft. The airframe itself, and the way the engines are totally exposed eliminates any possibility of the thing being stealthy. Turbojet engine compressor fans are huge radar targets. Exhaust turbines and heat is also bad for stealth. Yes the B-2 has exhaust heat. But it has a lot of features to spread it out widely as it exits the airframe. Also cold air is brought in from the front, under the engine intakes. This flows entirely through the engine bays, cooling the equipment, and mixes with the exhaust upon exit. 

As I said previously, the exhaust "pipes" are very unique. I am not going to say how, but take my word for it, UNIQUE. I've not really ever seen anything written or pictures of them, so I am going to assume it's still secret. But they are very unique. I believe they work as intended. All I'll say is that you cannot see the back side of the engines, visually or otherwise. Same for the intake compressor fans, with the exception that something above the plane may be able to see them. 

I've been in the tailpipes many times. And I"ve crawled down the inlets and sat staring at the huge compressor fans, like IN YOUR FACE close. It's neat to say the least.  ;-)

Been a long time though. I work on much more mundane aircraft these days.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:34 | 4840477 Tracerfan
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The B-1 is not stealth.  If a B-1, article title should be corrected.

Also, stupid to use any strategic bomber for a tactical mission.  Some commanders need to be cashiered for this idiocy.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4840582 HellFish
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Its more of a precision bomb truck in this role.  Expensive I believe, but effective.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:34 | 4840481 kchrisc
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Damn B-1 "terrorists."

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:40 | 4840494 Calculus99
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Bombs aren't the cure. Spending billions on these countries is the cure, especially medical.

The US would win the battle over their minds no doubt about that. US companies could get the contracts, the aftersales and then the orders for more goods and services from an up and coming nation, instead of a nation that's been bombed almost out of existance.

Folks, it's hard to hate somebody when they give you money....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:41 | 4840497 q99x2
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Thought they were protecting the world from bankster mercenaries.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:41 | 4840498 virgilcaine
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What about the Spanish chef Barrio, rip, who became a flying missile?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 10:47 | 4840519 tony wilson
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they did not die in vain.

no this

it was cia that gave the order to take out seal team six.

and cia gave these orders.

pat tillmans disease is the problem.

certain folks get restless about the heroin reasons for war.

they get a b1 reality check.

 

 

 

 

Assassination:  “It is an act of insanity and national humiliation to have a law prohibiting the President from ordering assassination.

henry kissinger statement at a National Security Council meeting , 1975)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:03 | 4840568 ShrNfr
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Assuming conspiracy when massive incompetance will do is usually un-necessary. This administration couldn't even fuck a cow with a bull correctly.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:06 | 4840822 Cathartes Aura
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assuming different "administrations" don't answer to the same banking class/globalists who own the State

and that those who are currently profiting handsomely, by design, are in some way "incompetent"

is just asking to be sold a new hope-full story for changes

next time round.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:09 | 4840834 tony wilson
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incompetance

incompetance

logistics

logistics

are you aware of the tonnage of helmand h being shipped out to camp bond steel.

are you aware of the smooth running logstics chains from seed to crop to processing.

are you aware of the us c130 tonnages invovled.

not incompetance just smooth logistics running 24-7 without a hitch.

helmand h

A

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:03 | 4840566 falak pema
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Impeccable track record of US army. The French only participated in Operation Desert Storm of 1991 on ONE condition : to keep a 40 Km distance from US forces; given their propensity to knock out more friends than foes. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4840585 HellFish
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I'm calling Total BS on this post.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:49 | 4840690 falak pema
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Who does he work for? Witness for prosecution or defense?

There is a Chinese General who has an even bleaker view about US military power; as projected in the China Sea stand off.

He calls it ED : Erectile dysfunction. 

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/06/02/chinese-general-says-u-s-f...

So I'm being charitable when I say that the Italians lost their troops on the road to Baghdad as did the Brits at Basra; all at the hands of "quick on the draw" US elements. Thats all fact from past wars.

What the Chinese are saying is that US militarist power's limits-- in the current context-- are visible today in Ukraine; and Syria and maybe Iran and maybe Iraq under ISIS fire. Is there a pattern appearing there? 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:11 | 4840592 DeliciousSteak
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Carpet bomb every suspected Taliban hideout with tactical nukes and the Taliban will be gone within a week.

Someone please email this to the Pentagon ASAP.

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:13 | 4840794 Emergency Ward
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"The End" and "Victory" is not what they want -- this is the age of sustainability, remember, especially the age of sustained warfare.  Thousands upon thousands of dead US soldiers are a just a renewable resource in the War Administration's plans.  (As someone else pointed out, the dead ones are not a drain on the resources of the VA.)

The Pentagon doesn't give a shit, and doesn't want to be out of a job tomorrow.  They will keep running those TV commercials about the "Global Force for Good" to attract young patriots ready to ship out to kill the Taliban (and any children who happen to be nearby) who can't find America on a map.  Obama, like Bush, will send American young people (not his own daughters of course) off to die and then eulogize them and "comfort" the grieving parents before hitting the golf links.

How about a beer summit with Cindy Sheehan, President Obama?  That bitch would put you in your proper place..

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:58 | 4840796 tony wilson
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hey moshe can we carpet bomb dimona and tel aviv while we are at it as well?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:15 | 4840607 Nevsky
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according to U.S. officials, the B-1 Stealth Bomber strike somehow went terribly awry.

 

B1 Stealth Bomber? Who's the "military genius", US officials or NBC news?

 

Interesting to note - US troops normally laser "paint" the targets for the aerial attacks. (That's how two US soldiers died on a roof in Benghazi - one of them was painting in an expectation of an airstrike that never came, and finally got shot by a mortar

 Did Taliban get hold of US laser "painters"?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:20 | 4840634 NoWayJose
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Excellent point.  I was thinking that myself.  These missiles are supposed to be able to fly into a specific window on any building they want to hit.  I am pretty sure (consipiracy aside) that the weapons officer on the B-1 did not aim for the US troops, so the question becomes - what happened to the (multi-million-dollar) missile?  We saw video from the Gulf War on these missiles hitting their targets.  Wanna bet the video is going to be 'too sensitive' to be released?  Or maybe is already deleted?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:29 | 4840666 Nevsky
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Considering that Taliban leaned how to detect the laser "painting" a little while ago, it is not out the realm of possibliities they either stole some of these from Afhgan gov (did US give them any?), or bought something similar on the black market.

 

Did they see that they were getting painted and painted the US troops right back, thus confusing the aerial airstrike?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:15 | 4840610 Gavrikon
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Um, it's Bush's fault?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:29 | 4840659 Emergency Ward
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Gee, I just read the other day that Glorious Leader Obama had ended the war in Afghanistan.  What's going on?  Was that a rogue Bush B-1?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:28 | 4840660 JailBanksters
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I believe Numbnuts in Chief said it best:

They never stop thinkin' about new ways to harm our country or our people, well neither do we.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:28 | 4840663 godzila
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There is nothing stealth about the B1... the B2 is another story.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:34 | 4840692 DeficitAlchemist
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They were instructed to do a Knock down sale of F-16's to Israel the week before and had none.. The Masters of Zion needed more US taxpayer funded arms.. The bankster 'Charities' for Israel Lobby groups were on a low ebb too, The S&P missed making a new high that day.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:38 | 4840720 Itchy and Scratchy
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Mission Accomplish for the Kenyan Commander in Chief! Another Nobel on the way!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:40 | 4840728 Uncle Remus
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So, not a "Broken Arrow" then.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:50 | 4840765 robertocarlos
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Was a Canadian flying that B1? Oh well, that's the price you pay to watch baseball in safety.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:51 | 4840767 QQQBall
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95% of peeps think fraticide is a college party

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 11:59 | 4840799 SilvertonguedAngel
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The black market funds provided to the CIA from the proceeds of Afghani opium poppy harvest and distribution is worth any price in human lives, and will be guarded by the company accordingly.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:00 | 4840802 verum quod lies
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I read the headline and immediately realized McCain must still be an active pilot. But I have another thought/question: How does he do that that and still be present to vote for amnesty at the the same time?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:07 | 4840828 European American
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What ever means of strategies and tactics it takes to cripple the "insurgents", I'm for. Kill the infectious Beast spreading its "democracy and freedom" abroad.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:41 | 4840971 Vooter
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We should stay over there for another two decades, just for shits and giggles. Why not? PARTY ON, America! LOL...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:10 | 4841084 lakecity55
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So, Bath House got ahold of a radio and is issuing fire mission co-ordinates?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:37 | 4841193 Zest
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - The last one.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:46 | 4841236 JuliaS
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Good thing Barack now has the legal authority to execute American citizens anywhere in the world. Else he'd be in trouble.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:03 | 4841312 franciscopendergrass
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"American and Afghan troops were conducting security sweeps on polling sites ahead of this weekend's run-off for the Afghan presidential election when they came under attack from Taliban forces."

Apparently, the Aghans have not figured out that voting doesn't change anything.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:22 | 4841401 Jano
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US army has nothing lost there abroad.

if their killers=soldiers get killed, its for me a justice.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:59 | 4841588 roadhazard
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We are winning

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:01 | 4841595 RaceToTheBottom
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B1, Stealth?  What they do slap some over rated paint on that sucker and call it stealth?

B2 at least had the reflection angles figured out.  B1 was made before they had radar.....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:19 | 4841614 cbxer55
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What in the world are you talking about. Radar has been around since WWII., 1940's in case your not aware of that. ;-)

Bone's were built in the early 80's (I don't mean the 1880's). LOL  They have material on them referred to as RAM, Radar Absorbent Material. It was put on them when they were manufactured. Why would they have that if radar did not exist? WOW!

Your WAY OUT THERE, man!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:45 | 4841741 RaceToTheBottom
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Look up the defn of sarc dude

I worked on both B1 and B2

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:31 | 4842384 cbxer55
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So did I. Guess I missed the hints to sarc. OOPS! Sorry bout that.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 22:25 | 4843110 RaceToTheBottom
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No problemo.  My sarc is others mainstream.....  Now where is my Sherman Williams stealth paint....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4841712 Pseudonymous
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Next up: commander-in-chief accidentally orders decapitation nuclear strike over himself... twice, one after the other.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 18:28 | 4842189 AlchemyFinancial
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 This is a b-1 Lancer, it is not a stealth bomber. 

This below, is a B-2 spirit stealth bomber.  Someone is messing up their facts here.  The b-1 is over 30 years old and I highly doubt it is being used much at all by the United states.  (maybe turkmenistan is using them)

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 18:29 | 4842190 AlchemyFinancial
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 This is a b-1 Lancer, it is not a stealth bomber. http://www.mrwallpaper.com/wallpapers/B1-Bomber.jpg

This below, is a B-2 spirit stealth bomber. http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/b-2-bomber-quiz-662x590.jpg

 Someone is messing up their facts here.  The b-1 is over 30 years old and I highly doubt it is being used much at all by the United states.  (maybe turkmenistan is using them)

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:32 | 4842389 cbxer55
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Oh, they're being used alright. Still have over 70 of  them operational. They fly out of a base near me all the time.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:52 | 4842440 falconflight
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Are we sure that the pilot wasn't from the Israeli Defense Force?  Surely many ZH'ers will have all the 'facts.'  

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