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Marc Faber Blasts "American Military Presence In Asia Is Completely Unacceptable"
Submitted by Keith Hilden via Squawkonomics,
In our latest Squawkonomics interview with Marc Faber, we were told a story of a petulant and wincing state carrying a heavy burden and unwilling to release its full spectrum dominance view on its administration of the world in light of a recent economic fallback, a declining economic share of the global economy, and the very stewardship of the global reserve currency being in flux. The story did not have a clear ending, nor did the reign of the world come effortlessly into the hands of newly important states. Nor did it portend the future of frontier markets and developing countries that could very well benefit from a US with a declining share of global GDP. Perhaps overlooking a wide expanse of undeveloped frontier markets, a quote from Dune author Frank Herbert would be best. “There is no real ending. It’s just the place where you stop the story.”
Indeed, that however the reserve currency question is answered, and however US economic hegemony looks in 10 or 20 years, there is one inevitable variable that stays constant throughout the geopolitical and economic King of the Hill tug of war between global powers. As two or more tigers duel on a mountain for global financial supremacy, the continued development of the rest of the developing world goes on unabated. That is a guarantee.
Marc told Squawkonomics that the Western imposition of its its administrative view of the world was being met with Nation States with quite different ideas of how the world should be run. From border demarcations and enforcement, to administration of the global reserve currency and global commodity exchange hub shifting, these positions of power and privilege have been thrown up in the air due to hasty decisions and management. In doing so, there are the makings of a multipolar world created from the current schism of US economic hegemony- a process the US is looking to halt- or at least manage- so that the outcome is still favorable to US interests. Faber also calls out the US pivot to Asia as a “China's backyard” geopolitical move headed by the neocons of Washington as a misguided policy. He wonders aloud what they must be thinking to contemplate such a move, knowing the US would be equally feeling threatened if China set up a military base just outside Toronto or Tijuana.
And Faber is quite clear on his stance regarding America's pivot to Asia:
FABER: "I am not God, I am not here to judge who is right and who is wrong, but if I were China, if you look at geopolitics in Asia from a Chinese perspective, its completely unacceptable in the long run to have American military presence in Asia".
FABER: "As a large power like France and Britain and America, you might be able to push around small countries, but you can't push around a country that has twice the population of Europe and the United States, and has become a relatively modern state with military that is very powerful."
We felt the most prescient big picture comment Dr. Faber brought up was regarding declining US economic hegemony in the form of the US economy comprising a lower share of the global economy as a whole. This sparked a bone of contention with us, as we find domestic GDP posts in their current context to be less and less of a reliable indicator of real economic activity. In the meantime, however, we will use this increasingly outdated metric to demonstrate Dr. Faber's idea of ever declining share of US GDP to global markets. This is a trend that has been going on for at least 15 years, shown in the eye-popping decline of US contribution to global GDP over a decade's time.
Traditional economics through standard GDP prints every quarter always presents countries as horses on a never ending racetrack. Sometimes, a country's horse runs a bit slower to the finish line, but they all get there in the end right? Sounds like a nice way to end a fairy tale or a Hollywood movie where the underdog protagonist gets beat up only to rise up again, but that's not how real economies work. A far clearer picture of what is going on is a country's contribution to the world economy, and that's when numbers get potentially ugly and beyond what is considered polite discourse at a dinner party.
No American wants to envision the US economy declining against the world 32% over a 10 year period of 2001-2011 but that's precisely what has been happening. Noticed a bit of dilapidation around suburbs in Chicago, Detroit, and other cities of previously pulsing economic activity? That's what a 32% decline in your economic performance against other countries gets you. That money you were going to earn, or spend? That's gone off to Sao Paolo or Shanghai, where someone has outcompeted you. Perhaps on cost, perhaps on currency manipulation, perhaps on just plain get up and go spirit, but you've been had, and your future income has been extricated from you and given to someone who performs better than you.
This results in American output being about 32% less desirable or productive compared to the rest of the world. Call it the Hunger Games, or call it just a slap across the face.
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Hey Marc,
American Militarized Police in America is unacceptable.
And in my mind I hear Morgan Freeman saying:
"He's right, you know"
Hey, China have at it (IMO)! It´s your backyard.
But, don´t be surprised if Japan responds with making its own nukes.
Don´t be surprised either if in a few years your new "pals" in Russia start liking you, well, not so much...
***
But, Marc Faber is right. We are over-extended. Bring them home. Let Asians sort themselves out.
China can fuck over the tribe by issuing another currency backed by gold. The tribe would be gone. Kryptonite to Superman, Gold to tribe members.
The world has gone insane. Sure hope some random positive turn of events happen soon.
How bad does China and Russia want the tribe to go away? We shall see.
The world should be "run" without anybody running it.
The cause of most of its problems is the actions of those who wish to run it.
Wait a minute.......
The USA didn't start building bases all over the world just last month.
It sounds like this was broadcast from the forest moon of Endor.
"The world has gone insane."
Primarily due to the politicians, Federal Reserve and the IRS. Instead of rewarding work, thrift and personal responsibility, we have bread and circuses. SNAPs and American Idol is not the answer.
We need a POTUS who understands middle class aspirations. Jobs for everyone who wants to work. For those who feel "certain" employment offerings are beneath their dignity, I would suggest they move to another country which rewards laziness. And rewrite tax laws to penalized corporations who use tax loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. Finally reduce national and local tax rates for everyone earning less than $30k.
I'm positive there are 'jobs for everyone who wants to work'. The prevailing world wage is about $2 to5 per hour. Until the USA can adjust its wages...and it will be very painful...those jobs will be for 'everyone who wants to work' ..at those wages.
For the USA to get back in the making stuff business the dollar must fall.
Sure hope some random positive turn of events happen soon.
Hope isn't a strategy.
"you might be able to push around small countries"
You put your right hand in,
You put your right hand out,
You put your right hand in,
And you shake it all about,
You do the hokey pokey
and you turn yourself around
That what it's all about.
Pivot West and East.... Mosul falls to ISIS
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27778112
Nouri Maliki said "vital areas" of the city had been seized; some 150,000 people are believed to have fled. Troops fled Mosul as hundreds of jihadists from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) overran it. The US has said ISIS threatens not just Iraq, but the entire region.
Coordinated by the CIA?
Funny too! Just across the border inside Syria, the same Al-Qaeda Jihad movement is armed, trained and funded by the USA. Our good Al-Qaeda fights for freedom against the evil Assad, on the other side of the border, the same Al-Qaeda do not enjoy USA funding, arming and training. Bad Al-Qaeda. America does not have an Al-Qaeda problem, it has a problem gaining total control over the CIA created Al-Qaeda that fought so well against the USSR, but went off the reservation in the following decades. Once again the USA has found a firm alliance with Al-Qaeda very important for freedom spreading in Syria, in aid of USA and Israeli foreign policy goals. In Iraq, the sunni were paid money to stop fighting the US occupation, and this worked, now they have spent all that American money on arms and are coming back to reconquer parts of Iraq.
Does anyone really believe that we Americans should continue to support the CIA/NSA/Republican/Democrat foreign policy war mongering and playing with terrorists, and now playing with Ukraine's nazi movement. Our leaders are too stupid to rule the world, that have proved that over and over again, yet they keep using our tax money to try and rule the world.
How did the trillion dollars and thousands of soldiers lives in Iraq pay off, how did the Mission Accomplished come out in the end? Does any veteran of the Iraq war now realize what they put their lifes on the line for? How is that sacrifice working out? Did our masters make proper use of soldiers patriotism? Big questions, BUsh and Obama need to be held to account for their crimes. Even as Obama uses his nazi forces to bomb and shell towns in East Ukraine. It never ends. USA attacks on other peoples never ends.
"...it has a problem gaining total control over the CIA." - is what you should have said.
Yup ... it's like the Sorcerers Apprentice, the US has funded violence around the globe and now they can't turn it off. Complexity wasn't in the manual.
Anyone ever consider that the President's Daily Breifing is not an information appraisal but his marching orders from the CIA driven Shadow Govt.?
Just a random thought.
The above is most likely quite accurate.
Couldn't have worded it better myself Jack.
What I find ironic is Obama met with our POTUS today and commended our Pollies on removing ALL arms from Australians and wished he could impose the same on the US.
The ironic part for me is that the US foreign policy for so long has been murdering innocent people around the world and when crazy or angry citizens start to shoot innocent people inside the US Obama is outraged!
What is that very accurate saying again???? "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword."
I assume that saying works for countries as well as individuals!?
"Troops fled Mosul as hundreds of jihadists from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) overran it."
Isn't it somewhat coincidental just when the administraion said it would increase aid to the Syrian rebels ?
Wouldn't surprise anyone to know the ISIS is a beneficiary of the increased aid.
time for Iraq vs Iran 2
But the Latin children being dropped off at the border for day-care is not a problem.
Anything to distract from the actual problem.
Exactly.
Distract, divide, conqueor.
The quality of the Mexican national soccer team will decline over time while the American team will improve by the same degree.
We need more basketball players from Haiti.
But we don't need any more golfers from Kenya.
Sir, um, Barry has appropriated the Mulligans from the next several generations.
The Pretty Reckless - Going To Hell (Official Music Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtbg5b7_Aw (4:24)
why are they bussing them to Arizona?? bus the little fuckers to DC
Yea, maybe put them on Thai shrimpers for 20 hr days so the US/UK can have cheap shrimp thru Aldi & Costco. Make'em earn their keep.
I'd be more concerned with this...
Or this...
OK in the middle east though. Carry on...
And Africa, Eastern Europe, South America....
He's not God? Now what?
guess we will just have to rely on obama.
lmao
Hint: this is what empires do...especially as they start to lose it
I reckon the goobermint's Common Core for Dummies should finish things off nicely.
@ DaveyJones,
They also print to infinity.
true that is. And it breeds more disrespect than the weapons. Oh wait, it is a weapon.
print money incessantly, increase taxes, curtail rights at home, over stretch the military and go the fuck out in a blaze of glory as things crash and blame an imaginary enemy in a transparent lie that is so naked that they are only lying to themselves.
For people who cannot create actual value , it is all they have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUa7s3xuqxI
Fags from MPNET in 1..2..3..
So a militaristic foreign policy isn't working, so we need more military to make it work.
I guess I need to be an 'expert' with a degree from an Ivy League school to understand.
Please China - conquer the United States so you can take over our current and future unfunded debts, and re-install a free market economy and financial system...
Re: and re-install a free market economy and financial system
You mean like they have over there, without a central bank?
China is a last bastion of capitalism left on the planet. Everywhere else is socialism or dictatorships (or a combination of those two)...
You forgot /Sarc off .
Re: China is a last bastion of capitalism left on the planet.
With or without the infinite Chinese fiat?
Who?
Hey Marc Faber, two words: "Nuclear Fucking Weapons!"
Radiation gives people superpowers I've been told.
Hey DannoH, two fucking words: "Peak oil".
I like "Peak Printing"
beside MAD still applying... who would ever bomb it's own investments?
it's only about how much pushing is acceptable
destroy and rebuild. great way to make sure all the money goes to your buddies.
You are forgetting Neutron bombs.
Kills people,not investments.
Hey dumb ass , that is 3 words , plus it means shit if you cannot financially support & maintain anything,. The Printing Press will only work until it doesn't.
Chanelling Dennis Leary. Reference the "Asshole Song". Flame on dude, flame on!
The DC US military in Asia is the MIC's SNAP card.
Love the ringer-t by Mr. Faber.
Why does anybody still live in the US??
The top 20% are doing better than the top 20% (almost) anywhere else, why leave!
The bottom 60% (the predator food) worship slow-motion eagles and flags, so would never leave (as loyal as frat-boyz).
Not sure about the middle 20%. Probably stuck.
While right, what Faber doesn't understand is that the neocons are willing to see all of us and our children nuked to further the ideology of PNAC.
Fuck you keith. My friends died so you could express your dumb ass shit.
Fuck You
Who was trying to stop Keith from expressing his opinions?
Re: My friends died
What...?
Fuck you keith. My friends died so you could express your dumb ass shit.
Well, Monad, perhaps your friends missed General George S. Patton's good advice: "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
Someday this dumb bastard will wake up and realize that his friends died because they were in a place they had no business being and the only threats to free speech in America come from the same government that sent his friends to die.
Then he can properly direct his anger to those responsible.
I like you. Now watch your kids die, same as me.
I noticed you refused to answer his comment or mine.
The bottom fucking line is that if the military were dying to keep me free Washington, DC would be a battleground.
But it's not. The United States military does not keep me free. It enables and sustains those that chip away at all our freedoms.
Nobody forces anyone to join the military, travel around the world and fight undeclared, un Constitutional wars that have nothing to do with American citizens liberty and well being.
China also says to the US: "Get the fuck off my lawn!"
Interesting as to which states have the most heavily armed Militarized Police. States which have strong Second Amendment support. When push comes to shove & collapse occurs many of these costume wearing Criminal Corp. Pinkertin Thugs will take off their costumes, steal the tax paid for armories & run home, tail tucked in their asses to protect their loved ones.
The ones left defending the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. will have cross hairs on them behind every blade of grass.
I have several acquantances who are "police officers". One is on 'medication' for depression and low testoserone. He told me to my face that he didn't need to prep for SHTF because he'd just take what he needed if it happened.
Another told me that he uses his issue suppressed weapons to shoot deer at night, and that if TSHTF, he'd simply head home and keep his gear for himself.
A prepper group here was told by the county Sheriff in a private meeting that if TSHTF - he would order his deputies home to defend their own families.
The above is not opinion or hearsay. I am speaking from firsthand, face to face experience.
What the hell is he bitchin about again?
I only have a two-second attention span.
After that its all just buzzes and clicks.
Blues Brothers - King Bee (live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebTZ7L6g9es (1:46)
That 'american' is a funny man.
Today, that is 'americans' vs 'americans'.
'Americans' draw lines in the sand.
And he guessed well: he is on the other side. So yes, 'americans' moving to Asia is bad news for him because it also means that 'americans' are coming for him altogether.
One 'american' or more if he is unlucky wants him skinned.
Wrong side of the line in those days of 'americans' vs 'americans'.
Are you speaking about the Native Americans ?
Who gives a flying fuck what Faber thinks about geopolitics? Why highlight what the Bangkok numnut says?
ZH's anti-Americanism is not just tedious; it's jeuvenile.
The 'american' Faber is scared because 'americans' are coming for him.
.gov maybe coming after him, but I highly doubt Joe six pack has anything in common w/ Faber... Other then the occasional neck' w/ a ponytail.
Re: ZH's anti-Americanism
Not just anti-Merican tho. More like, anti authoritarian (unless you happen to be a Red or Blue Team true-believing dumbass then you are only anti-The-Other-Team, but there's enough on both sides to keep the most dumb of the dumbest dumbasses happy.)
is not just tedious
What else is there?
it's jeuvenile.
I'd go with OCD.
What would Americans expect for their country’s position in the world if they turn over its financial management to internationalists, bent on satisfying their own dream of world government and riches for themselves?
What would Americans expect if their free enterprise economy was swamped by the principles of socialism and its leading industries merged with fascists and socialists in power?
What would Americans think if their leaders consistently make war against small sovereign countries around the world to satisfy its crazed neocons serving, not America, but Israel?
What would Americans expect when they watch their political system become so corrupted that it elects an unqualified socialist who would rather see America punished for his petty prejudices than contribute to its growth and progress?
What would America expect when the culture and economic miracle its founders created, in broad daylight, are sold, stolen and destroyed by a private banking cartel with absolutely no allegiance to American values, culture or economic well being?
What would Americans expect when the rise of China and the loss of loyalty from America’s so-called allies is directly related to the connections and sellouts made over the last 20 years by the Federal Reserve System. Where did China get its patents, its seed money,its manufacturing base, its intellectual base and its opportunites for raping America industry? From the bankers.
And, finally, how can debt beat solvency?
'Americans' clinging to fantasy.
There is nothing in action that matters in the world but 'americanism'. Everything else is petty 'american' attempts to side track and avoid facing the fact that the world has been conquered by 'americanism' and is now governed by it.
For sure, the primary question for 'americans', is to find those indians to take from, since it is the way 'americans' have grown richer, by taking from others.
And for sure, each 'american' desires one thing: that someone other than themselves take the seat of the Indian.
Again, with the Indians?
Re: Again, with the Indians?
Personally, I'd have gone with "Predator food", but it works either way.
There are no Indians in America just Hindi.
What we have are displaced undocumented asian descendents.
Obviously this group of undocumented illegal aliens to this continent had neither the IQ nor the procreativity to fend of the Blue Eyed White Devils from Europe.
Sucks to be you doesn't it.
No, they're ALL -- every fucking one of them -- displaced African immigrants. Who cares about a bunch of phony fucking documents? It's all just paper.
We were all WOPs at one time.
Pissing in your own drinking water, emptying sewage, heavy metal, radiation industrial waste etc etc into it is pretty creative alright. Those who call this progress are not exactly one of the globe's finest minds. The west calls this proceativity! LOL give me a break. Such childish views are all too frequen in the west. Clowns like you are not worthy of stitching up Tecumseh's moccasins.
You sound like you may have worked at Hanford.
http://enenews.com/nbc-stations-reveal-nuclear-workers-suffering-severe-...
http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/6Nations/6nations1.html#part1a
Wow!
How is it possible that a bot that can pass the Turing test still be such a gay douche bag?
I would have to say that AnAnonymous' influence on the ZH boards is the equivalence of stink on shit.
Either way you want to flush one down the toilet and hope the other disperses quicker than you can expel explosive diarrhea.
I would hope the PLA could do better.
I find him amusing,similar to a pet rock myself.
Stink has a lot of influence on shit, probably more than any other property.
Triggers my auto skip program along with a few others.
" . . . 'americans' have grown richer, by taking from others . . ."
How would you propose one get rich if one can only work at a fast-food joint or steal from Asians? There's a reason America has such a giant military. It ain't all rocket science.
Re: What would Americans
Most Americans only care that they've got enough sports, near-food, porn, and more bling than the neighbor.
The top 10% (who run the various scams for the top 1%) are doing REALLY well under the current system.
Survival-of-the-fittest, bitchez...
“Let your enemy come to you (an old Chinese motto).” The Chinese played it correctly; they just sat back until Kissinger arrived, who brought America's resources and power to the Chinese for the short-term benefit of the globalists.
And Americans are finding it hard to say anything because they've lost their representative government.
The Chinese have always played their enemies for fools. And they are playing America’s rulers and the West for fools.
China is using the economic transfer of America’s wealth and innovation to her shores to realize her plans as a world superpower. In the same way, Maoist China preserved its Soviet alliance for many years, using Russian economic aid and military protection to build an ultra-secret military-industrial development while transforming itself into an economic power house.
The globalists who rule America’s economy, interconnected to the Fed but to no country save perhaps Israel, have de-industrialized America; it began in the 80s with the hostile takeover of American corporations. The globalists not only offshored America’s manufacturing base solely for labor arbitrage to realize huge gains for themselves, but they gave away America’s technology, patents, research, high-paying jobs and her future for a pot of porridge; in short, they destroyed America’s justification for market capitalism.
The result is an industrialized Red China rapidly surpassing U.S. hegemony - a threat to world freedom as Americans have known it, as well as American free enterpise.
America will not “recover” unless the people oust this Congress and the Fed. America's employment opportunities already are too far undermined; her rise in her consumer income already has stopped. America has no future in her present condition if the Fed oligarchs remain in power.
As China gets all the offshored production, “so American GDP becomes Chinese GDP, and American jobs become Chinese jobs, and American consumer income becomes Chinese consumer income,” says economist Paul Craig Roberts. “What's happening is the balance of power in the world is shifting completely away from the West. It's washed up.
“Globalism is a wrecking force of amazing power to wreck.”
Yeah, but you've got to admit. The top 10% did pretty well in the bargain.
When the smart-n-savvy people running a country don't feel any identification with the peasants they rule, it's pretty easy for them to decide to sell the peasants to the Chinese (or anybody else for that matter).
60+ years ago when Godless Commies ran around in Mao suits and crappy cars the smart-n-savvy people needed our trash-class to protect them and keep them living the good life, but now NOW you can be a Godless Commie and have a nice suit and nice car (hell, you can live like the top 10% do everywhere).
So, why wouldn't the smart-n-savvy sell the peasants to the Chinese. It was a good deal for them. The smart-n-savvy people know the slow-motion eagles and flags are just to baffle the dumbasses.
I agree with all your points, except instead of Top 10% I would call it the Top 0.01%, unless, of course, you're talking public employees, such as university professors or two married teachers pulling in more than $200,000 a year with full benefits till death. Based on the Internal Revenue Service’s 2010 database, here’s how much the top Americans made: Top 1%: $380,354, Top 5%: $159,619, Top 10%: $113,799, Top 25%: $67,280, Top 50%: >$33,048.
That Top 10%, who mostly live in areas where expenses are high, really doesn’t mean too much where “In New York county/Manhattan, mortgage payments represent 77% of the median income and in San Francisco County represents 70%.”
My point, the oligarchs are sacrificing the upper-middle class in addition to the other classes. The future of American middle-class families was sold to China.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-04/7-10-americans-believe-crisis-not-over-or-worst-yet-come-52-cant-afford-their-homes
Sure, the top 1% have the power. The corporations and government are owned by the top 1%, but are managed by the top 10%. It takes allot of management skills to keep all this loot moving to top.
(You can't really use IRS data, btw. It doesn't include magic/invisible un-earned income.)
That 'american' guy wants to confuse globalization and depletion of resources.
With globalization, and GDP as a measure of consumption, what matters the most is to who the consumption is dedicated.
This is an 'american' world and consumption is to be done by 'americans'.
This 'american' would like to frame the situation seeing a decline in 'american' countries due to a loss in power.
Nothing like that. China consumes what 'americans' allow them to consume, all to ensure that 'americans' sit on the top of the consumption ladder.
Why has China been unable to pick up as 'americans' sold the idea they would? Because they are unable to consume for themselves. China, in this 'american' world order, only exists to facilitate 'americans' in a greater level of consumption. That is their part. They are puppets whose existence must be dedicated to the greater 'american' good.
That is when this 'american' fails to conceal reality. There is no loss, only an expansive move to help support a greater level of consumption.
Why the decline in 'american' areas? Because of the world being set on the path of depletion of resources by 'americans'.
The 'american' way of life is simply not sustainable. Actually, contrary to what this 'american' tries to propagate, 'americans' have won the competition, it is over now. There is no longer any competiting alternative. 'Americans' are hegemons and they are alone.
They are losing nothing to their underlings, there is simply not enough resources to sustain an 'american' middle class.
Where did they find a string that long for the two tin cans? Really, that's the best sound quality you could come up with?
Hey Marc, don't you know that the US does not want to be the worlds policeman? We have to because no one else will:
No one else will drone weddings.
No one else will have 10 year wars based on the wet dream of a drug addled President.
No one else will steal money from her citizens and give it to WS Banksters
.....
Oh and they hate us because of our freedoms
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/18/jackie-chan-chinese-peopl_n_188...
Look at chinese "art." They lack the ability or willingness to think creativly. It's why all of their intelecual property is stolen from white people.
Controlled by comunists or controlled by me. I'll take me, Amercans RULE!
Yeah, that freedom stuff can get out of hand. We need the strong guiding hand of [The Red Team | The Blue Team ] (choose one) in order to ensure [morality | justice] (choose one) is [ preserved | enhanced ] (choose one).
Ya! the red team blue team kanard! Is your team an abject falure? Well just make the broad claim that your utter falure is just the same as the successfull and you can't make distinctians and whatever... SHUT UP!
I asume this is one of Saul Alinsky's Rules for radicals. Comunisum is just the same as "capitalism" because SHUT UP!
Your Another Democrat Alinskite Troll
More correctly would be stolen from German people
certain "white people" never created much
In brief what super speculator of bangkok is saying is :
The west is now a has been land and east is where the sun rises and sets. I hope they can hear him in sparkling Fukushima!
Well, he's got a new set of masters in China where he has all his money tied up.
Go Chinese Red Team.
Down with American Blue Team.
Far as I can recall, Faber hasn't been right yet.
Keep playing with yourself, Bob.
I am a fan of Marc Faber, but he is off base here. China has been an aggressive antagonist to practically all of its neighbors. It makes no sense for China, but it is so. And those neighbors turn to the United States as an antidote to that aggression. China is a belligerent to Mongolia, Korea, Japan, Philippines, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Tibet, and others. They even claim a northeastern province of India.
The citizens of those countries are wary of the Chinese, China as a political entity and Chinese as tourists. The United Stares has interests in SE Asia and the countries there feel allied with the U.S.
Faber would be more on the mark if he excoriateed Chinese foreign relations.
Re: Faber would be more on the mark if he excoriateed Chinese foreign relations.
He's in China, not the land of the free and home of the braves.
Any time those countries want a gun for hire they can give a call and have cash on hand.
Why should the US taxpayer provide a free security service?
Oh and don't tell me about allies...
I don't see any Vietnamese or Tibetans on nightwatch in my neighborhood.
WTF is with the Mao bust of the Commie murderer in the background?
When in Rome, suck Mao's little yellow dick, Marc?
Re: Mao bust of the Commie
Come on, the cold-war is over. The Commies won. We all love Big-Gov now (well, we might not love it but lots of us are living off it).
Dont worry marc, they are not coming for your opium.
or your under age women...
Blues Brothers - Sell me your children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbsMZecRgbI (0:20)
The author Scott L. Malcomson of "Generation's End" *(A personal Memoir of America Power After 9/11) c.2010 has a quote here that I'd like to share since 9/11--- Note: pay close attention?
"Gen. Wesley Clark was on (CNN), appearing uncomfortable, with his soldier-in-the-spotlight look. I met him not long before, at Richard Holbrooke's apartment during a party. I was struck at the time by his good humor, by his nervousness, and by what he said about America's future of waging optional wars-- what would come to be called wars of choice-- because there would be no real necessity for fighting, only possibilities for fighting, and America, as the indefintely hegemonic power, would be free to select among them."
end Quote... WOW!!! Ref: Chapter I pg7 "One Day" ....'
The USA's coastline and island outposts in the pacific are far larger than China's. So whose lake is it?
Since 911 the U.S. and EU have been scratching at the inside of the toilet bowl trying to keep from getting flushed down the proverbial shitter.
They've put on a great act (military invasions, bombings, threatening bluster, and money printing and all) to make people think just the opposite, but the facade is really slipping now. Almost no one is fooled any longer by the lone-superpower scam.
Since we're clearly past the tipping point I think all we'll see now is acceleration of America and Europe's collapse - but of course they'll not go down easy - expect financial warfare and more military warfare until their domestic societies slide deep into the shitter and they have to refocus just to keep from seeing total internal disintegration. What do you think is the reason the police are stockpiling all those weapons and ammo, if not for the impending, inevitable civil collapse?
I guess Faber ignored China's $600B a year trade deficit surplus with America, they get $600 B reasons a year to be our bitch.
that's about $50 mo to every man woman and Child in China
The Chinese strip you of your factories and take your money as well and you have the temerity to call them your bitch? Big call my friend.
This imbalance is not good but you also need to consider what would happen if cheap Chinese goods suddenly did not hit American shelves. Total retail implosion and soaring inflation.
And before you get excited at the prospect of American manufacturing being reborn, you need to remember that recent reversals in US manufacturing have been characterized by very low labour demand due to robotics etc.
Oh, please,
China stripped nothing and took nothing.
American and multinational corps either built or provided the contracts to factories that allowed the Chinese econmy to expand and gave the money so they could become mere resellers to turn a buck. Had it not been China it would have been somewhere else. China was just the cheapest whore on the block at the time with the most pliable politicians.
What exactly does China sell that can't be bought or made somewhere else?
Accetable
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY
The red glass frames are badass in a gay way
Russia wins cold war!
"Marc Faber Blasts "American Military Presence In Asia Is Completely Unacceptable"
utter and complete nonsense.
for example, some country might actually ask us to station troops within their borders as a show of "no one crosses this line" border.
say vietnam. to china. "no one crosses this line".
ty, u.s. of a.
there are other examples.
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"FABER: "I am not God, I am not here to judge who is right and who is wrong, but if I were China, if you look at geopolitics in Asia from a Chinese perspective, its completely unacceptable in the long run to have American military presence in Asia".
agreed, you're not god, but after that, we digress.
as a justification for having a military presence in a friendly country, is so that an unfriendly country understands the level of our commitment to that nation within which we stationed our troops. just in case we didn't want to go to war at sea over a couple of islands.
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"OUt US army,more thai ladboys for The Faber!
I don't like a USA military presence in East Asia, and I understand why the Chinese wouldn't like it.
But if Japan, Korea, and Taiwan choose to maintain alliances with the USA, then the USA military presence is legitimate.
I do wonder why Japan, Korea, and Taiwan maintain those alliances. All of those countries are technically capable of developing their own nuclear deterrent forces.
Why would they want to remain dependent on the USA for defense, when they could do it themselves at no great cost, and then tell both the Americans and the Chinese to fuck off.
A military presence in any foreign country is called agression and occupation, despite the background.
US military history casts US to be most morderous cruel sadistic nation ever.
I can't wait "japan tests first 'defensive A-bomb' near okinawa".