Parent Of School Shooting Victim Explains Iranian Justice

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Yet again, headlines are scrolling fast with details of another school shooting; this time at Reynolds High School in Oregon. It is unclear how many students were shot or injured but police report the shooter is dead. However, in a clear indication of the growing anger among the American people at the frequency (and responses) to these shooting sprees, one father of a student trapped in the school explained that his wife was "in culture shock;" being from Iran, he said, "if this happened there, all the families would show up with guns and take care of it."

 

Forward to 1:30... (live feed via KOIN6)

 

It seems the people are angry...

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Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:37 | 4840950 Quinvarius
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The need for families to own guns in order to take care of it is obvious.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:40 | 4840963 Manthong
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Except if you are a Chicago Police Chief or politician.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:52 | 4841006 Pladizow
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Are there schools in Iran?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:56 | 4841026 what's that smell
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please change your avatar to read "Turd Stinks Up The Place"

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:58 | 4841038 Pladizow
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My bad, forgot about bomb making and wife beating 101.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:23 | 4841131 quintago
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Troll or not, you are an idiot.

And so is the interviewee for having an Iranian wife and pronouncing Iran, I-RON.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:28 | 4841148 Pladizow
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Hook, line and sinker!

Only a gearter idiot argues with an idiot!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:35 | 4841183 James_Cole
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Iran has generally good education standards, and people showing up with guns (not allowed for avg citizens in Iran) wouldn't really fly. 

But yes, great to see Americans clamouring for mob justice. One step closer to bff saudi arabia!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:45 | 4841231 Herd Redirectio...
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Maybe they own a lot of crossbows in Iran.  Or throwing knives.  Who knows.  But thats a big part of the reason the gun debate is so silly. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:56 | 4841283 chinoslims
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Apparently, stones are still legal in Iran.  If stoning was popular in America, all the stones would have to be registered.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/meast/iran-stoning/ 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:06 | 4841295 macholatte
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The sheeple militia is neither well regulated nor well trained but certainly brainwashed into fearing the criminal justice system more than an assailant in the event self-defense was needed.

Having that pistol in the dresser drawer doesn't mean you're safe. So get some training before you end up like poor ‘ol Joseph Wilcox. You never know when you'll need it.

IPSC

https://www.ipsc.org/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPkuMd0TvJA

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/10/man-who-went-after-gunman-wa...

There are hundreds of millions of gun owners in this country, and not one of them will have an accident today. The only misuse of guns comes in environments where there are drugs, alcohol, bad parents, and undisciplined children. Period.

- Ted Nugent

Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.
- Dianne Feinstein

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.
- Joseph Stalin

On the one hand, the guns were there to help capture the imagination of the people. But more important, since we knew that you couldn't observe the police without guns, we took our guns with us to let the police know that we have an equalizer.
- Bobby Seale

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4841352 IndyPat
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What was Wilcox supposed to do? Shelter in place and suck his fucking thumb?
I get ur point on training, but even an IPSC champ could end up dead.
Two vs one...they got the drop on him.

The tone of that article is horseshit, too.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:23 | 4841412 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Reynolds High School, Home of the Raiders and my alma mater. I may be from Oregon, but I live in Texas now and they know about guns reducing violence here. Commies in the Portland area are clueless.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:34 | 4841464 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Dear NSA, you probably know who I am know don't you!!! Bitchez!!!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:56 | 4841772 TeamDepends
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Is "Robbie Parker" playing the grieving father, because that guy is good.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 18:49 | 4842261 DoChenRollingBearing
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"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!"

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:26 | 4841423 0b1knob
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During the Columbine shootings there were three (THREE!) SWAT teams outside the school for over an hour while students were being killed inside.

For an hour the three SWAT teams argued about who had jurisdiction and  how if one team went inside it would make the other two look bad.   Because its all about public relations.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:50 | 4841549 DaveyJones
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and the shooters were on interesting meds

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4841642 Pure Evil
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The shooters were on extremely high doses of Prozac.

Ssince they had been taking the Prozac for so long they had developed an extremely high tolerance to the drug.

Eventually no matter how much you take it has no affect on you since the brain can only produce so much dopamine and serotonin.

After that its all hallucinations and schizophrenia because you're brain aint getting the necessary amount of naturally produced serotonin and dopamine.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:31 | 4842031 sleigher
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In the year 2000 there were seven countries without a Rothschild-owned Central Bank.

They were:

Afghanistan

Iraq

Sudan

Libya

Cuba

North Korea

Iran

 

What were those countires we were supposed to take over 7 of them in 5 years or something? 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5AzFx76Kbc

 

hmmmmm.....

 

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 23:18 | 4843291 chinoslims
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I wonder if they channel stuff

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 23:18 | 4843292 chinoslims
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I wonder if they channel stuff

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:14 | 4841361 McMolotov
Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:38 | 4841482 RafterManFMJ
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LOL!!

Yes because "Amurikan Justice" is sooooo real and effective! FREE JON CORZINE!!

LOL!!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:22 | 4841656 Pure Evil
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Well, if Holder wouldn't prosecute the Black Panthers then why should he prosecute Corzine?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:57 | 4841919 Monty Burns
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"great to see Americans clamouring for mob justice"

 

Mob justice comes into play only when orthodox justice fails, as it has in America and almost all Western countries in recent decades.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:01 | 4841051 xtop23
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When seconds count, the police are minutes away. A well armed society is a polite society.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:21 | 4841124 giorgioorwell
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The US is far and away #1 in private gun ownership compared to anywhere else in the world, so if we aren't a "polite society" I'm not sure where that cliche comes from?  

Is there some example of this that you have or are you a parrot?

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:30 | 4841157 SF beatnik
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Concealed carry permits are generally unobtainable in most states. So you can own a gun, but you have to leave it at home. God help you if you use it at home to defend your own property in California.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:00 | 4841297 giorgioorwell
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Nonsense comment about California, there have been several cases just this past few months of homewoners in California shooting home invaders/robbers with legal/registered guns and the homeowners aren't charged. Show me some examples of this?  

None of these homeowners were charged

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/at-least-one-hurt-in-san-mateo-ho...

http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_25105867/calif-man-kills-suspec...

http://www.tribtown.com/view/story/592daf657b73419db654f6369cfa9a73/US--...

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 21:35 | 4842884 SF beatnik
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Second link seems iffy, story unresolved.

Of the other two links, doors kicked in by armed intruders. You're  probably on pretty solid ground with regard to self defense  in these situations - defense of life and limb.

But suppose you awaken to discover someone stealing things from your basement or garage and you shoot him. Big problem. Even if you ultimately prevail. 

 

Were I on the jury, I would save your sorry ass. But MANY of my fellow Californians feel sorry for the perps, who grew up lacking white boy's advantages.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 04:41 | 4843655 xtop23
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Put a kitchen knife in the intruder's hands. Problem solved.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:28 | 4841431 Buckaroo Banzai
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Actually, concealed carry permits are very obtainable in most states-- it's actually one of the more positive developments over the last 10 years. Even in a hardcore liberal hellhole like California, there are many counties where you can get a concealed carry permit.

Even better-- depending on where you get your permit, it may even be honored in a surprising number of other states.

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

A better point to make is-- why the fuck do we need a permit to exercise an inalienable right?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:45 | 4841518 IndyPat
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Good point, but I think the last question comes down to historical perceptions of concealed weapons. In the good old days when everyone went armed...everywhere...whether sword, pistol or rifle, they were displayed openly.
Bad guys concealed. It showed ill intent.

Now that everything's ass backwards, well...you get what we have now.

The reason for waving and shaking hands was to show you didn't have weapon in your hand. It was fine to leave it on your hip.

"Before all else, be armed."

-Niccolo Machiavelli

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 04:46 | 4842144 xtop23
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In California it is still pretty difficult to obtain ccw licensure. It wasnt until our current sheriff was challenged by an opponent who is pro-ccw and saw his hopes for re-election dwindling that he began to issue them.

The recent court decision didnt hurt either.

@giorgioorwell - it is decidedly difficult to find untainted statistical evidence to support my conclusion ( or yours ) All that need be done is gerrymander what and how it is tabulated and you can create whatever result you desire.

Perhaps the swiss are a good example? Extremely high gun ownership per capita and relatively low crime. I suppose that would constitute a polite society?

Yes, I realize the US has extremely high private gun ownership. If all crime happened in the home that would be an applicable fact. 

Many, if not most, private gun owners don't carry when they're out and about.

Since the largest portion of violent crime does not occur in one's private residence., your fact really is irrelevant. 

As far as parrot goes ... /shrug.

Thanks?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:35 | 4841467 Axenolith
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That's bullshit, 44 states have "shall issue" (3 of those are "may issue" that are essentiually shall isse states) CCW laws on the books.  Most of those states also have open carry.

California, while one of the most idiotic for overall gun laws, does have Castle Doctrine in effect.  The act of an intruder forcing their way into your home is of itself considered a "fear for life and health" event.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:34 | 4841181 object_orient
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Heinlein said it. It's probably true in a science fiction universe. There are apparently other conditions required on this earth for the expression to be true.

I'm guessing it's mostly the government's creation of huge, lucrative black markets and the militarized police response to those same markets.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:01 | 4841307 giorgioorwell
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That's not my question...I'm asking for proof that high gun ownership equals less crime and a"polite" society..clearly we are proof against that.  

Keep reading breitbart.com genius

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:27 | 4841421 Pure Evil
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Being polite means you staying the fuck out of my business and I stay the fuck out of your business.

John Bernard Books: I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.

(From the movie The Shootist)

So, if you know you're neighbor owns guns and conceal carries are you going to start a war with your neighbor over a minor dispute? A dispute where you think you have been mightly wronged?

Well, you may not, but they're definitely a shitload of other people would have no problem visiting violence on their neighbor because they think they've been wronged or they've been disrespected.

Ever been to the ghetto? Ever seen a road rage incident?

The natural law of the jungle states that you have the right to defend yourself from a predator that may try to hurt or kill you.

If you don't want to come over and be respectful and be polite, then stay the fuck away from me.

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:33 | 4841460 Shizzmoney
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RE

Being polite means you staying the fuck out of my business and I stay the fuck out of your business.

Bingo.

It's no coincidence that as NSA and government spying increases, that so does these shootings.

People are stressed the fuck out, man.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:38 | 4842626 Flagit
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If people weren't soo strapped for cash, working 40+ hours a week to survive, we wouldn't be soo inclined to snap over traffic mishaps. We are unable to identify or confront these entities on a daily basis, so the smallest of confrontations serves as the catalyst for venting rage.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:48 | 4841753 Miffed Microbio...
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Where we live it is very common to see open carry. We do ourselves when we walk our dogs in the morning. People drive by and wave without a second thought. My neighbor is the official rattlesnake dispatcher and runs across the street with her .357 if I call ( I prefer a shovel but she loves to do it). I would say we all are very polite to one another and to all that visit. Yes, anecdotal. I am unsure if absolute proof can be made here. The only neighbor that didn't have a gun or dogs was robbed. He wised up fast.

I guess it's a country vs city thing. City people think a security sign warning intruders they have purchased an alarm system with monitoring will keep them safe. Country people realize they personally are responsible for their own security. Just a philosophical difference. But, city dwellers are at a disadvantage if society quits being polite.

Come to think of it, I have never met an rude pushy asshole at a gun show. Maybe I should apply for a government multimillion dollar grant to study this.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:01 | 4842282 The_Dude
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I actually wonder if one of the reasons guns are more frowned upon by the big city libs is that they recognize one thing about human nature and the society they themselves help create.  In big cities, you have cultural/racial diversity that was promulgated by the libs.  They reluctantly acknowledge that this creates an environment where if people had the ways and means to, someone from one group/tribe would likely try to do in someone from another.  Honest Libs might even admit that they being the wealthy, white class might be a primary target of others, especially in a more lawless situation.  So effectively they have evolved this attitude as a self preservation policy.  By minimizing guns and kissing the collective ass of others, they hope not to be viewed as a target/threat and be ventilated by some MS-13 gang member.  Stop...don't shoot....because we love you!

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:40 | 4842636 Flagit
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Dirty Harriet?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:11 | 4841619 TrumpXVI
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If you want proof, or at least a reasoned arguement backed up with actual data, check out John Lott's book, "More Guns, Less Crime".  Lott's a pretty dry, unemotional "bean counter" and his analysis of the data seems pretty solid.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:21 | 4841650 AlaricBalth
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The 31 states that have “shall issue” laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39 percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons. In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number of violent crimes committed with guns.

And according to  Seattle's Marchex Institute, Texas is one the the most polite states in the country, with Massachusetts and Ohio leading the way as least courteous.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:28 | 4841668 TrumpXVI
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According to "concealedcarry.com", there are currently 42 "Shall Issue" states and eight "May Issue" states.  And then there are territories and possessions; Guam, Puerto Rico, District of Columbia and others, etc... they vary, but for the most part, are "Right to Carry Denied".

 

Okay...but even within "Shall Issue" states, there are variations on how the law is executed.  Here in PA, my CCW was easier to acquire in my county than what my friend had to go through in his county that neighbors mine.....a couple of extra hoops.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:40 | 4841204 Lord Koos
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Right.  Like the USA is so much more polite than Sweden, Canada, Thailand, Singapore, Norway, etc etc.  Don't think so.

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