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Two-Thirds Of Americans Do Not Back Obama's Decision On Bergdahl

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In a week dominated by headlines of heroes and D-Day celebrations, we suspect President Obama was hoping for a patriotic bump in his ratings... but as The Hill reports, people in the United States say President Obama paid too high a price for the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, and largely disapprove of the administration’s handling of the swap, according to a pair of new polls. Only 34% of those polled (by USA Today/ Pew) backed Obama's decision as 'the right thing' but more crucially, it appears the President's ongoing push towards tyranny that is most worrisome as 72% said Obama should have informed Congress before making the deal.

 

 

As The Hill reports,

People in the United States say President Obama paid too high a price for the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, and largely disapprove of the administration’s handling of the swap, according to a pair of new polls.

 

Some 45 percent of those surveyed in a CBS News poll said they disapprove of the detainee swap, with 37 percent backing the move. A sizable 18 percent remain undecided on the issue.

 

Those findings are largely echoed by a USA Today / Pew Research poll, in which 43 percent of people said Obama should not have made the trade, with just 34 percent backing it as the right thing to do.

 

But a significant majority — 72 percent — said President Obama should have informed Congress before approving the deal. Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have criticized the president for ignoring a legal requirement that Congress is informed 30 days before the transfer of any detainees at Guantanamo Bay. The president freed five Taliban prisoners held at the prison in exchange for Bergdahl.

 

A majority of those surveyed also said Obama paid too high a price for his release. Of those surveyed, 56 percent say Obama gave up too much while 28 percent said the terms were reasonable. That includes nearly two-thirds — 65 percent — of veterans who said the price was too high.

 

Veterans in the USA Today survey were also among the most likely to express anger with Bergdahl himself, who is accused of abandoning his post in Afghanistan before his capture by the Taliban. Some 33 percent said they were angry with Bergdahl, while just 6 percent said they sympathized with him.

Overall Obama's approval rating was unchanged on the month as minimum wage pressure in Seattle, student loan bailouts, and immigration handouts trumped any negatives from the Bergdahl swap...

 

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Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:11 | 4840838 Hopeless for Change
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I am the 66%

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:14 | 4840852 AlaricBalth
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Tyrants, Dictators and Kings do not need notify anyone of their plans. They answer to no one.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:19 | 4840871 Honey Badger
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Yes, that faggot Obama has figured out that it is better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.  Only he doesn't ask for forgiveness unless he is talking to a fucking muslim.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:28 | 4840911 RevRex
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1/3 will back him no matter what. The ticks, leeches, socialists and racists who judge him by the color of his skin not the content of his character....in short the hardcore Democrats.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:32 | 4840928 Skateboarder
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Fool's got no character, and there certainlity aint no content in there...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:55 | 4841025 Dane Bramage
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A lowly legionary "going native"?  An unforgivable crime to the proud Romans. Of course swapping prisoners would be unpopular.  Barry will have to crucify him to make any sort of recourse.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:00 | 4841045 knukles
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So 33% will still believe anything.

 

Step right up, getchur hot tasty puppy turd croissants , step right up...  Get'em while they're naturally hot.  All organic, gluten free, no additives, natural as all shit...  Hurray hurray hurray...  Step right up....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:51 | 4841212 12ToothAssassin
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The best theory Ive heard is that Obama got duped by CIA/MIC. Military and Intelligence are NOT fans of this WH and saw an opportunity to embarras the pres. Of course Intel doesnt just to gags, there has to be a real purpose and the gag is just a bonus. What if someone got to Valerie Jarret (The real pres) and convinced her that on the heels of Obama announcing drawdown in Afghanistan, the pres could be a real hero and bring back the LAST SOLDIER in captivity, really driving home that US is leaving Afghanistan and did I mention the pres would be a hero? And run the VA scandal off the front page? Too good to pass up, right? They should have googled that prisoner though...

So Barry does the deal (not telling Congress) and probably gave Taliban $5-6m too but cant admit it. The real meat is with the military moving out, theres no one to protect the poppy fields and supply the CIA drug cartel. The CIA need an inside guy to keep the cash flowing in absence of US military. Enter Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa heroin traficker extraordinaire. According to DoD intel doc "Detainee was identified as a narcotics trafficker and probably used his position and influences to become one of the premier opiumdrug lords in Western Afghanistan"

Its a perfect Op - Get your guy in to ensure the flow of drug money to fund CIA Black Ops *AND* embarass Obummer!!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:01 | 4841932 TeamDepends
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What, in God's name, is President Jarrett wearing?  Is this how an Iranian princess dresses?http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/10/valerie-jarretts-secret-meetings-with-...

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:33 | 4842395 FeralSerf
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". . . saw an opportunity to embarras the pres."

Yeah, these "opportunities" only come along once in a blue moon?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:57 | 4841031 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just for clarity:  You're not opposed to the other two monotheistic worshipers (Christians and Jews), who pray to the same "Big Daddy In The Sky"?

Or are you opposed to their culture and practices, or perhaps opposed to the fact that they actually got the moral balls to match their conviction that Usury is Satanic and Evil?  Help me understand here, o self-righteous and sage one.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:02 | 4841053 knukles
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Ah, hem...
The Big Three are all Children of Abraham, dudes and dudettes....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:05 | 4841064 Zerozen
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Whoa! You beat the crap out of that strawman!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 22:59 | 4843235 TheReplacement
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I would pay money to see a genuine liberty candidate say that during a nationally televised Presidential debate. 

A guy can dream.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:18 | 4840872 Relentless101
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Just stupid. He is possibly going to be tried for desertion. What the fuck does this guy know. There has to be leverage somewhere. Just gotta dig deep enough. And if not, I think we finally have grounds for impeachment based on mental stability.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:56 | 4841027 Everybodys All ...
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With all that you know about Obama do you really think this president is going to let this man get tried for desertion?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:04 | 4841063 rubiconsolutions
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After reading and hearing all the backseat driving about Bergdahl I've concluded that most people don't know shit from Shinola. Especially all the talking heads on the boob tube. The most he is guilty of is opening his eyes to the truth. When I enlisted during the Vietnam debacle I thought I was doing something good and noble. And then something happened, I went back to SE Asia in 1999 and 2000 for a few months to help with demining operations and UXO clearance in Laos and Cambodia. It was an eye opening experience. To actually see what the US military does to the land and people was, well, heart breaking. After returning home I destroyed everything related to my time in service including shredding my DD-214 and honorable discharge, threw away my medals / ribbons, all of it. I discouraged my kids and their friends from joining by thoroughly explaining what the military does. Every single person should go to a country after the fact that the military has invaded and destroyed, see just what has been done to the people.

I won't judge Bergdahl even if he deserted. It's called a conscience for a reason and if he changed his mind after seeing Afghanistan first hand then so be it. I'd love to be able to sit down with all these clowns who were members of his unit and ask them some difficult question unlike what Megyn Kelly and the rest of the dolts are asking. Like why are you criticizing Bergdahl for violating his oath when you violated yours by participating in an unlawful and undeclared war? And why do you continue to support the military when it is as plain as the nose on your hypocritical face that it is propping up an immoral regime? Buy hey, I guess I'm just a treasonous bastard for thinking such nonsense. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:13 | 4841098 TuPhat
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Rubi, I don't know about the bastard part.  That's between you and your mother, but keeping an oath is important.  I served in the military myself and realized that Nam was wrong after I joined.  There are ways to change your mind about going to war other than deserting and harming other soldiers.  Bergdahl deserves no respect from anyone who believes that honesty and honor are important.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:16 | 4841370 rubiconsolutions
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Okay, I'll play along. The oath - "all enemies foreign and domestic", right? So, why is that those in the military aren't actually defending us from all domestic enemies? Sure, they're okay when it involves going abroad but what about those pesky domestic enemies? I'm not 1/1000th as concerned about Al Qaeda as I am the DHS or TSA which violate the 4th amendment each and every day. I'm not nearly as concerned about Iran as I am the NSA virtually disemboweling the constitution. I think the supreme court of the US is a greater threat to national security than Syria. Don't give me that crap about oaths. Those that join may think they are doing something to protect us from "all enemies foreign and domestic" but the facts belie that. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:49 | 4841903 Cathartes Aura
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just lending a voice to my upvotes. . .

I hope you stick around here and continue to share your lived experiences with regards "military" engagements globally.  while a few others here also balk at the "support our troops no matter what" meme, it is through direct stories of "being there" and seeing through the "patriotic" lies told that real truths can be shared.  there is much respect in telling personal truths that go against whole "nation all" storytales.

when people stop saluting uni-formed & armed soldiers that invade & destroy other people's home lands on behalf of the banking class MIC, then kids will stop volunteering for a "paid job" to kill people. 

until then, if you are saluting a uniform, you are complicit in what is done with your enabling.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:07 | 4842486 rubiconsolutions
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Thanks Cathartes. I changed my tune when I was walking around Laos and seeing all the amputees from landmines and unexloded ordnance left behind. The US wasn't at war with Laos and yet dropped more iron on it than all of Europe during WWII. They posed about as much danger to the US as my local high school does to the University of Alabama in football. The military has done an absolutely brilliant job of marketing itself as unique, separate and superior to the rest of government when nothing could be further from the truth. I'm tired of "military exceptionalism" just as I am "American exceptionalism".

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:13 | 4841099 McMolotov
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"I wanted to see exotic Vietnam, the crown jewel of Southeast Asia. I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture — and kill them. I wanted to be the first kid on my block to get a confirmed kill!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqoLPPlHPPs

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:42 | 4842418 FeralSerf
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". . . most people don't know shit from Shinola."

An epiphany at the very least!

The military should be required to get an environmental clearance before any operation is begun. A definite amount of money should then be budgeted and drawn from a special account. The operation should then be stopped when there was no more money. That should prevent many otherwise nonsensical operations. Think where we would be if the Iraq operation stopped when it reached Rummy's $50 billion max. estimate. A couple trillion richer, that's where.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:06 | 4842307 newbie vampire
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I believe Bergdahl is a muslim convert.  I saw the video where he appeared teary-eyed while speaking to one of his "captors".

What is the point of bring back a deserter ?

Or was agenda to release 5 very dangerous Taliban leaders to create more mayhem and destruction on US interests ?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:19 | 4840875 pods
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What if this guy was an asset?  Done with intel collection now reel him back in?  That makes more sense than anything at this point.

pods

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:24 | 4840894 McMolotov
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Also might explain why reporter Michael Hastings got wacked. Maybe he learned too much and got the self-driving exploding car treatment as a result.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:33 | 4840931 Agent P
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I would think this was done to initiate intel gathering.  Follow the five and whatever CIA/NSA micro-goodies they are unknowingly carrying.  

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:25 | 4841664 Cthonic
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Like a nice case of rabbit fever?  That would be too old school.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:21 | 4841125 Lewshine
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Obama laughs at these statistics! What makes a tyrrant?? ...Someone who doesn't care what the populus thinks!!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:35 | 4841704 crazzziecanuck
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... and what would Congress have done if Obama came to them?  Probably told him it's a "Presidential" matter so they themselves wouldn't have to face the voters.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:00 | 4841778 suteibu
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"if" "probably"

The point is the Constitutional law "professor" didn't follow the law.  No one can assume what Congress would have done in an election year (perhaps the reason Obama decided to go on his own to protect the Senate - see how that works?), especially not as an excuse for him not following the law.  Get it?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:57 | 4841916 TimmyB
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The constitution is merely a piece of paper. --George Bush.

The worse thing that Gerald Ford did was pardon Nixon. What this country needs are trial for law breakers, no matter who they are. What we have instead are presidents of both parties breaking the law. The law means nothing to the oligarchs and their whores. The prisons are filled with minor law breakers, while our worst criminals lead lives of privilege.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:58 | 4841921 TimmyB
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The constitution is merely a piece of paper. --George Bush.

The worse thing that Gerald Ford did was pardon Nixon. What this country needs are trial for law breakers, no matter who they are. What we have instead are presidents of both parties breaking the law. The law means nothing to the oligarchs and their whores. The prisons are filled with minor law breakers, while our worst criminals lead lives of privilege.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:24 | 4840897 midtowng
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Then 2/3rd of Americans are partisan morons.

You don't leave a soldier behind.

And if those "terrorists" were so dangerous, then how come we hadn't charged them with anything after a decade?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:34 | 4840940 RevRex
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Soldier? Hardly. Muslim AWOL Deserter is what he is, possibly a traitor if he did instruct his captors in bomb making.

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:52 | 4841009 Canadian Dirtlump
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Damn straight. His old man's youtube account fleshes him out as a mujahideen wannabe as well.

 

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWY5to3oMQRcc9XZrpmSY5g

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:20 | 4841643 midtowng
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The amazing thing is how Republicans pretend that they give a damn about the soldiers, and then say shit like this.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:00 | 4841041 Relentless101
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I haven't spoken to a single veteran who calls this guy a soldier. A lot of other words that are not at all... we'll say positive. But certainly not soldier.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:18 | 4841640 midtowng
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Then your veteran friends are partisan morons.

The guy is in the Army and wears a uniform. Full stop.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:15 | 4841988 TimmyB
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Well here you go. This veteran says "He's a fucking solder and worth more than all of people we have locked up in Guantanamo."

Furthermore, the people we are keeping in Guantanamo should either be put on trial or freed. Either we are a nation of laws and justice, or our Constitution and Bill of Rights are just bullshit fairy tales we tell each other.

That being said, Obama should have followed the law and informed Congress of the swap.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:33 | 4841174 oklaboy
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Mid0diptick They are nemy combatants, think POW's. POW's are not charged, they are released when the conlict ends. You may want to tell your muslim buddies they need to stop fighting, and the "war is over". don't think they got the message. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:31 | 4842034 BigJim
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Do you think they might 'stop fighting us' when we leave their countries?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:36 | 4840943 Canadian Dirtlump
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The bigger question is, who the fuck is the 33% and what is their dealer's phone number?

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:37 | 4840953 DblAjent
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Obama is performing splendidly! (whispers the Shadow government in the darkness...)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:04 | 4841065 Freddie
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The idiot public should unplug their TVs and demand why we are in endless wars like Orwell predicted.

Al Qeada - total fabrication to scare the public.   People who have kids in the military should pull them out or accept that they will be fodder for these criminals.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:23 | 4841134 MortimerDuke
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I love the Tylers concluding paragraph.  "Overall Obama's approval rating was unchanged on the month as minimum wage pressure in Seattle, student loan bailouts, and immigration handouts trumped any negatives from the Bergdahl swap..."  Sad but true.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:29 | 4841856 drendebe10
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Standing ovation for another great move by the arrogant, incompetent, narcissistic, illegal indonesian kenyan muslim alien sociopathic liar in chief....   how stupid do the sheeple have to be not to see WTF is going on with this ignoramus???

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:17 | 4840864 suteibu
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It must be a major fuck-up for Obama to throw Hagel under the bus so quickly.  Wish he had blamed Holder instead.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:29 | 4840916 valley chick
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That was always the plan for Hagel  and was discussed on many blogs some time ago. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:26 | 4841427 earnyermoney
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As the article states, Barry takes all the credit for the "optics" then throws his underlings under the bus when HIS decisions backfire. At best, Barry's a steaming POS.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:36 | 4841713 crazzziecanuck
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Every President has done things like this and behaved this way.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:59 | 4841925 Cathartes Aura
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all observed behaviours inherent in the title bestowed.

as if any prezzydent did anything without prior command prompts.

learn to .gov folks. . .

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:30 | 4840921 booboo
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Never throw a Black Panther under the bus when there's a cracker in the wood pile.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:51 | 4841267 Bastiat
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If Holder goes under the bus, there's a handful of nuts going with him -- and I don't mean crazy people.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:17 | 4841827 Nevsky
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Chuck Hagel pre-emptively threw Obama under the bus

 

Hagel Says "President Made Ultimate Decision" on Bergdahl 

 

Popcorn anyone?

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:49 | 4842432 FeralSerf
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Why not throw them all under the bus? Bus not big enough?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:12 | 4840847 Itchy and Scratchy
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72% of those don't qualify to golf at his course!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:15 | 4840850 Soul Glow
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Who cares what the status quo thinks.  The status quo has no credabilty until they turn off the boob tube.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:16 | 4840859 red_pill_rash
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This is "Common Core" for the American people. 

"Norms" are being taken down.

Only the gov. can say what is right or wrong, and they sure as hell don't have to explain it to you.

..

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:16 | 4840861 maskone909
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they straight up broke the law bypassing congress.  yet, nobody cares!  its a never ending nightmare i tell you.

what ever happened to "we dont negotiate with terrorists"?1!?

 

the only thing that makes sense is that bergdahl had really sensitive information that made it absolutely neccessary to get him back in the USA.  something made that dude flip.  had to be pretty bad to force him to abandon his base and go on a nature walk through the taliban infested desert.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:20 | 4840882 Uchtdorf
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I'm waiting, ever so patiently, for Congress to declare, "We don't negotiate with terrorists, like you, Mr. President." (Yeah, right, like that's gonna happen.)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:27 | 4840905 moneybots
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"what ever happened to "we dont negotiate with terrorists"?1!?"

 

The Taliban are the former rulers of Afghanistan.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:40 | 4840967 Urban Redneck
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The United States ALWAYS HAS and ALWAYS WILL negotiate with terrorists.

The line should be "we won't get caught publicly negotiating with terrorists" followed by show trial(s) of mid-level cock suckers if TSTF in the press.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:50 | 4841002 agstacks
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To steal a quote from somone else, "Obama didn't negotiate with Terrorists.  He paid the sticker price."

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:41 | 4841493 Surging Chaos
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"what ever happened to 'we dont negotiate with terrorists'?1!?"

That ended when the real terrorists demanded $800 billion from the taxpayers back in 2008. Isn't that right, Hank Paulson?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:51 | 4842436 FeralSerf
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It's their law. They get to break it anytime they want.
Haven't you noticed?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:17 | 4840862 ZeroRights
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The other third are sycophants and will ALWAYS back Obama's decisions no matter what they are!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:17 | 4840863 Reaper
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They think?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:20 | 4840877 Soul Glow
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They choose based on the status quo's Hegelian Dialectic.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:17 | 4840865 ebworthen
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Two thirds of Americans aren't sure what we are doing in the Middle East or who the real enemy is.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4841328 nowhereman
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And 90% don't even know where the middle east is.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:34 | 4841700 dracos_ghost
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98% think the Middle East is a NBA regional division.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:19 | 4841994 TimmyB
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This includes our government, especially the State Department.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:52 | 4842441 FeralSerf
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And the other third? They are sure what we are doing in the Middle East and they know who the REAL enemy is? Give me a fucking break!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:20 | 4840866 potato
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Even if B is a deserter, he is still a citizen and worthy of rescue or prisoner swap. In the eyes of Justice, the gitmo detainees don't even deserve to be there, as nothing was proven in court. So it's just 5 hostages vs 1 hostage. And many people agree that the government has a duty to protect it's citizens, no matter where in the world they are located.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:27 | 4840908 SilverIsKing
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You are a genuine comedian.  Good one. ^^^

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:01 | 4841933 optimator
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And what if he's a turncoat?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 19:55 | 4842445 FeralSerf
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Turncoat or patriot -- like insurgent-terrorist or freedom-fighter, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:18 | 4840870 Gringo Viejo
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What the American people think doesn't mean shit to the oligarchs that own this 'burg.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:19 | 4840878 LawsofPhysics
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So what, half of the population has below average inteligence...

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:37 | 4840948 dontgoforit
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AHA!  But the other 25%....now that's a different matter!!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:46 | 4841234 SheepDog-One
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Yes but 90% of Americans believe they're above average intelligence.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:23 | 4840890 moneybots
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The White House tried to smear the soldiers in Bergdahl's platoon- the very people who had their lives on the line.  Some of them lost their lives looking for the deserter.

Supposedly, the NY Times referred to them as "raggedy", which is also a smear of the men who had their lives on the line.

That is unacceptable.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:34 | 4840893 spiral galaxy
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Heck, I approved(!!) of the swap as it confirms his incompetence, his administration's ineptitude and exposes -- in a humorous way -- how inane and how far his spin doctors will spin.  Concurrently, it lends credence to the mishandling and incompetence in the other issues (e.g, VA, immigration, economy, Middle East, Ukraine, etc., etc.).   And how apropos does the 'weakling workout video' provide the visual as to his lack of fortitude!!! So have it Obama.   The world is watching .....as are the voters!  Perhaps NOW they'll pay attention.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:38 | 4840956 dontgoforit
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We will be paying for this guy for the rest of our natural born lives  Makes me sick.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:25 | 4840898 NoWayJose
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Just waiting for some bogus national emergency that will call off the November 2016 Presidential election....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:30 | 4840920 Skateboarder
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Why wait for a false flag when they can hoist the real falg with Madam Prezzydents.

All according to plan. You were even trained for it by teevee shows like 24.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:07 | 4841948 Cathartes Aura
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*grumbles* I knew I should have copyright'd that descriptive spelling.

 

the next one appointed should definitely be a woman, the heads asplode will bring so much drahma to the land. . .

then they can pull out the MRAPs & git'er done. . .

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:26 | 4840901 SoDamnMad
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Screw Bergdahl The prez made a decsion that gave the Taliban legitimacy AND released 5 hardened killers back out

to kill more Americans, woman, government workers and children.  On top of that all hostages whether medical NGOs, military, contractors are now tradable for more killers.  Nice job. The people aren't stupid enough to think Hagel made the decision especially after major mil said NO.  Buck stops at the very TOP.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:00 | 4842462 FeralSerf
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In 2002, the Taliban was generally recognized by he international community as being the legitimate government of Afghanistan. They were the ones that Bush, Rice and Union Oil Co. were negotiating with.

Then there was an illegal war . . .

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:28 | 4840904 Itchy and Scratchy
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LOL! As if the 'Dreams of my Father' Kenyan cares about what the majority thinks! LOL! Good one! Keep 'em comin'! And don't forget to vote for the 'Chosen One' again! Lol!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:02 | 4842473 FeralSerf
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Barry's godfather was Allen Dulles. Dulles' dreams have been realized. The CIA owns the American presidency.

http://www.opinion-maker.org/2010/08/obama-all-in-the-company-part-i/

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:36 | 4840909 One And Only
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What is wrong with the other 1/3 that agree with it?

This guy walked of his post and basically joined the Taliban/al-Qaeda and gave them knowledge on how to construct bombs, that with a high degree of certainty, killed American soldiers.

Not only that but the people that Bergdahl was traded for were top brass individuals who are accountable for an unknown (but probably) number of American casualties. These people have now stated they are returning to the battlefield.

This is of the highest level of criminal malfeasance. There isn't really a sentence that I can construct that could accurately describe how criminal and sad this "swap" was.

These criminals (Bergdhal and the people swapt for him) are going to be treated better than our veterans who were put on wait lists that didn't exist.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:31 | 4840922 Proofreder
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WHEN, oh when

will some Senator file articles of impeachment.

Please let it be a democrat.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:40 | 4840964 MeMongo
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+1 for the titties proofreder!

Mongo like titties:-)

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:19 | 4841120 Proofreder
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Not mine, gotta thank the girlfriend

She's fine.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:40 | 4840965 dontgoforit
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PRISM - complements of NSA - has the dirt on all of them.  No way they can reach out and touch someone as they would surely be quickly exposed.  Whoever is in power has the power.  We're screwed.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:33 | 4841861 drendebe10
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Fat frackin chance... 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:31 | 4840924 Gringo Viejo
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My out of the box take is that Bergdahl's release was a purposeful, in your face "fuck you" to America, her veterans and the denigration of the rememberance of DDay.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:33 | 4842037 lakecity55
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!!! Yep.

The only other thing he could have done is mooned the crowd at Normandy.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:32 | 4840929 Little Boomer
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Barry also sent the Tollyban all the gold in Fort Knox.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:34 | 4840933 RMolineaux
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The only thing these polls show is that at any one point in time the majority can be wrong.  In this case, Obama moved correctly.  If he had advised congress ahead, it would never have happened.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:35 | 4840941 Callz d Ballz
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So 1/3 of our nation is retarded, got it. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:39 | 4840947 Jayda1850
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Speaking of polls, I regularly check out RCP's polls because they do aggregates. The polls that most intrigue me are direction of country and congressional approval. Both of which, have been 60%-70% to the negative going back into even Bush's second term. Disapproval of government is the most bipartisan issue out there. Disapproval of government is by definition disapproval of how your tax dollars are being spent because nothing gets done without us funding it. Until people realize it is their money that is being used to carry out policy that, clearly, a plurality of americans reject, NOTHING changes. Unless the tax withhold laws are repealed, people will feel powerless and continue  to have apathy about money they never knew was actually theirs.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:41 | 4840969 MickV
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The reason for the natural born Citizen requirement is national security-- as in ensuring, to the highest degree possible, that the President has the pre-requisite allegiance and attachment to country, by requiring singular allegiance from birth--- i.e birth in the US to 2 US Citizen parents (or a single US Citizen mother), where no foreign allegiance exists.

See Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167, defining natural born Citizen by the "Common Law" (i.e law of nations-- see Sosa v. Alvarez- Machain (2004)(3)(a)(1)).

"The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens." 88 US 162, 167 (1874)

Obama and all of Congress know that Obama is not eligible-- he is the perfect example of why a natural born Citizen is required. Congress has been blackmailed and is protecting the knowledge of its treason, for allowing the infiltration of a foreign enemy into the Oval Office.

There will be a filing in the US Supreme Court tomorrow asking that the Court issue a writ of mandamus to the Florida District Court of Leon Co., requiring it to make a Declaratory Judgment, as required by Florida and Federal law, as to the eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:47 | 4840990 MickV
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Remedy exists in the 25th Amendment Sect. 4, and 3 US Code 19.

"Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President"

The Circuit Court is a body that Congress has provided by law (See Art. 3 S. 1). "Whenever" means "anytime"

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:08 | 4841612 Cthonic
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  ... Vice President shall immediately assume ... what, you want Biden to be Prez!?  ROTFLMAO

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:42 | 4841888 drendebe10
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..... yah, it's a fast foot race for who is dumber than a box of cat turds and rocks, W or Biden but at least both are American born U.S. citizens  and I'll take that any day over a narcissistic, arrogant, illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim liar in chief with repeated demonstrations of gross incompetence intent on destroying this country and its middle class and really only interested in its celebrity grand imperial golf life style....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:12 | 4841973 MickV
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Sigh....... First the requirement is "natural born Citizen" not "American born Citizen", get a clue.

Second, when there is no legal executor of the laws, then there is no law, and the law is only what evil men say it is--- look around.

Biden is at least eligible.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:31 | 4842033 lakecity55
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Given the Dire Straits we are sailing, yes.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:30 | 4842016 lakecity55
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The only thing that makes any sense (Eligibility), in lieu of what we now know, is that the key members of Congress have been bribed/blackmailed/want to stay on the Gravy Train.

All we (ZHers) need to do is prepare. Russia and China will do the Takedown via dollar-dumping.

When TSHTF, Nero-negro will unleash the domestic army he has built.

I personally will never fire on the Flag. However, if the Flag fires on me and I am minding my own business, well, that is a horse of a different colour.

These guys do not have the invicible Force they are scaring Americans with. It is Powerful, but NOT invulnerable.

Do. Not. Fear.

Long Live the Republic!
*******
On another note, I actually think Bath House has passed the barrier from sanity to insanity. I am truly concerned he is Mad. Hitler, at the End, was also Mad, but nobody would call him on it. Surrounded by opportunists and sycophants, he almost totally destroyed Germany.Mark my words: If BHBarry cannot be legally removed somehow, he will start a fracas and there will be a nuclear exchange. We live in Dark Times, but I still have Hope!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:40 | 4840970 billsbest
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Everyone's missing the main point: Obama is not there to please the voters, but to carry out orders from THOSE WHO PUT HIM THERE.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:50 | 4841547 Kelley
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I don't care who put Obama there - he still needs to be frogmarched out in handcuffs and thrown into the dirt.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:53 | 4841013 Bemused Observer
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Good luck on your next war America...Don't think that people haven't gotten the message. The eagerness with which people have tried, convicted, and sentenced this young man, without knowing SQUAT about what happened aside from hearsay "evidence", was one of the more disgusting spectacles I have witnessed.
So, some of you KNOW all you need to know, right? And to you, your "knowledge" is enough to take a stand on this one...Wow, the ignorance of our law code is truly astounding, and very disturbing.
Innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law. Where evidence is presented, verified, and questioned. Where the accused gets to speak on his own behalf, and FACE his accusers...what part of that is so hard to understand?
He hasn't said two words about what happened, and we have seen NO evidence. All we have are the OPINIONS of a bunch of morons.
I hope all of you who have already judged this kid face the same kind of "justice" yourselves one day. You would deserve it.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:01 | 4841301 nowhereman
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You can be bemused as you wish, but please explain the administrations response to Bradley, Snowden and Assange, talk about morons.  I'm afraid your moron is showing.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 17:08 | 4841959 Bemused Observer
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I'm not talking about the administrations response to Bradley, Snowden and Assange. I frankly don't give a shit about the administrations responses to anything.
I'm talking about the responses of people like the posters here. Which, to a large part, have been disgusting and anti-American.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 12:58 | 4841035 thamnosma
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I'm just feeling so bad today to learn that Hillary was "dead broke" when she left the White House.   At least she had a friendly mortgage banker who did help her into a 2 million dollar shack.   Americans are really stupid.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:05 | 4841068 lakecity55
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"...and that's why we had to steal all the WH stuff. Bill had to hock it at a pawn shop (sob)."

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:14 | 4841627 Translational Lift
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Dead broke my ass....The Tyson's made them millionaires!!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:44 | 4841895 drendebe10
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Liar, lair old cow pantsuit on fire....

"There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman."   Fred Sanford, Sanford and Son....

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 20:09 | 4842493 FeralSerf
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Word is that now that she's been working her ass off on the speaking tours -- Bill's been helping out too -- things are much better.

Ain't America great? The real land of opportunity!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:01 | 4841050 Tsar Pointless
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The pollsters would have to provide another option if they asked me:

Do you give a flying fuck?

My answer would be 'no'. We shouldn't have had troops there in the first place, so whatever happens as result of that, gets my overwhelming stamp of disinterest.

I'm over any outrage I once harbored. I used to care. I need one of those t-shirts.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:03 | 4841061 lakecity55
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Bath House Barry

CiC, The Taliban

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:12 | 4841089 Gringo Viejo
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I see we have a good contingent of Obama trolls at ZH today.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:18 | 4841091 blindman
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why are American soldiers in Afghanistan, americans
can not really say, for the pipeline, for the poppy?
for the geo strategy chess board thing, for the spreading
of democracy?
why?
no one cares anymore just like they could not
tell you the names of the last 10 veterans that
committed suicide, the last 10 Americans that overdosed,
the last 10 soldiers killed on the "job". but, they
will answer a survey where they can express an opinion
based on nothing more that lies expressing their displeasure.
.
why can the president of the usa execute an American
citizen without congressional oversight but not rescue
/swap prisoners who were illegally/illegitimately detained?
.
in war millions of people die and are otherwise destroyed
and since that is such an unsavory topic, rather than end
it, especially when it is initiated to steal control and resources,
we debate notification blunders associated with prisoner
exchanges as if this will make us intelligent and upstanding
contributors to the race. clowns I tell you, but at least
clowns know they be clowns; barnum and bailey have nothing on
Washington d.c.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:16 | 4841112 Half-Cocked Jack
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Americans are  dumber than the average human

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:50 | 4841254 SheepDog-One
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Nothing more dangerous than a large pack of dumb panicked animals, and no country is above it.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:42 | 4841217 Guns N Metals
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Obama, president of the United States of America, is a puppet who loves the limelight and the perception of holding great power, even if he has none. I also believe he would allow a homosexual man to perform oral sex on him as he ingests illegal narcotics because it's in his personality to do so.  The man simply lacks character and morality.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:47 | 4841245 SheepDog-One
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It's unfortunate that we have absolutely nothing but boot licker yes men in Wash DC.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:50 | 4841259 orangegeek
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Barry is going to continue to pull dumb ass moves like this.

 

Why?  He's a failure at driving socialism into the US - one term to unwind his crap.

 

Barry also jams Billary's plans for any WH run.

 

Socialists working together.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:54 | 4841278 GFORCE
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The majority of cases wont hold up in court so using them as bargaining tools while setting them loose is the only real option. 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:55 | 4841280 Jack Burton
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There is real evidence that 1/3 of Americans are close to insane. There is other evidence that 1/3 of Americans are totally ignorant. This leaves only 1/3 with normal brain function. This may sound over simple, but if I just think of all the people I have known or do know, or interact with at work and play, these numbers seem about right. Imagine, about 30% of American watch FOX, another 20-30% watch other cable news. This also fits with my 2/3rds theory.

So, this poll means jack shit to me. Polling fools gives fools results.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:27 | 4841435 SheepDog-One
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85% of Americans claim to be Christians, that alone is proof that in a room of 10 people 8 or 9 of them are batshit crazy kooks.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:59 | 4841587 Cthonic
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Dat's raycist.  Freethinkers have always been a minority in this country, what else is new?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:04 | 4841604 madcows
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Yet, only 4% attend church.  85% and 4% dont' really jive.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 13:58 | 4841292 QQQBall
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the other 1/3rd canot read English

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:08 | 4841309 Hongcha
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I posit this is a psyop to demean and demoralize; which appears to be solidly in-line with the ZOG-flavored strategy of our highjacked government.

Can anyone imagine any of the actual former leaders we have had, snakes though they undoubtedly were, doing something so reprehensible as repatriatinig a deserter, still sporting his years-old Talibani cock-napkin of a beard, standing on the podium with the President?  It boggles the mind.  Are there any adults in charge?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:12 | 4841351 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hmm?...

Let's see now... 

We'll swap five incarcerated Muslim people based on an event they didn't do that have been marinating in an all expenses paid hell hole of a tropical prison that includes torture for more than 12 years without any "exhibit A, B or C's" to prove there guilt or innocence in the most lawful of lawful nations on earth for an alleged American GI who has been compensated the same way that this guy shamefully read his script and ironically is still alive to tell his story -with no questions ever asked of him on his role that day?!!!

Welcome to America!!!

The Disneyland of Disneyland's for the Central Banker and the Government(s) they run!

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:16 | 4841368 GeorgeHayduke
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40% of 'Murcans believe in creation "science" and those people likely call climate change junk science. Yet most have no basic concept of thermodynamics.

33.8% of 'Murcans are obese. Meaning they don't have the ability to discern a decent diet and healthy lifestyle.

Jack Burton above covered the mental midgets who get their news from Fox.

80% of 'Murcans believe in angels.

A majority of 'Murcan elected Obama to office and most here thought they were complete idiots and unworthy of 'Murcan citizenship. Now, they hate Obama and align with their thoughts on an issue and suddenly their opinions matter.

I gave up on what most 'Murcans think about anything years ago. The ironic part is how things that rile people up the most matter so little in the grand scheme of things. You may junk me now.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4841426 therearetoomany...
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A majority of americans did not elect obama.   i've posted this data before on here.    he got, if lucky, 60 million votes - not even a majority (barely more than a quarter) of the legal voting age americans in the country (approx 215 million).    That's including all the fraud.    He hardly was elected by a  majority.   And, I would safely say that 60million adults (it's less because of all the fraud) is probably about right for the number of truly moronic and imbecilic TeeVee watching blobs in this country.  

 

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:42 | 4841508 GeorgeHayduke
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Yeah...and the same goes for Bush in both of his elections. And I am sure we can dig up some disgruntled Clinton hater who can prove that Clinton stole those elections too, and Bush I and Reagan (Iran Contra anyone?), etc...

Interesting that you pick that one line out of the list I presented.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:29 | 4841443 SheepDog-One
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And 85% of Murcans believe a magical invisible superbeing lives in the sky....case closed for an insane nation.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:22 | 4841394 therearetoomany...
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Let us not forget that Obama's sole purpose is to destroy what is left of the USA.  

He's doing these things (the illegals, the release of prisoners, this thing, being wholy corrupt and moronic at the same time) so that people will lose any remaining faith in the government.   Then either they will crash the system (for instance California releasing thousands of prisoners) and will have to put down the FSA as well as everyone else who is going to fight back, or Russia and China are going to crash the dollar (more likely IMHO) by refusing to use it for settlements.   In that case the FSA, the criminals, and patriotic Americans will rise up and will be squashed.   Why else is the IRS, the USPS, the USDA and on and on buying up millions of rounds of ammo, hollow points, silencers, and so on.   

This is going to be ugly.   And no one will win.  

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:45 | 4841521 Surging Chaos
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The real problem is the foreign policy. Why the fuck are we still in Afghanistan? Why not bring the troops home so this kind of shit never happens in the first place?

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 14:47 | 4841528 Magnum
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Americans and the family members of those lost on 9/11 deserve to see the evidence, in a courtroom trial, of the people held at Guantanamo Bay.

If they are guilty then the US govt would put them in court and show the evidence. Are Americans willing to accept that a huge mistake was made in Afghanistan? Obama just wants to close Guantanamo but they can't tell the truth that none of the people held there had anything to do with 9/11.

A few years ago the govt brought ONE person (Ahmed Ghailani) to trial in New York. This was their BEST and strongest case for conviction. The jury found the perp innocent on every single count, over 200 counts, all but one count guilty, and that was guilt by association.

The people held there, about 140, are held without trial because there is not enough evidence.  

 

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:30 | 4841682 monad
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Yea. I had to watch my friends die in bullshit staged wars, and never live to be fathers, and never replenish the Tree Of Liberty with their seed.

Justice is coming. Its gonna be quick.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 15:32 | 4841695 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well said M

The "canary in the coal mine" that leaves it's permanent trace no matter how much the politicians in Washington have blamed it on everyone else in the Middle East...

One would have thought by now that honorable attorneys from around the Country would been lining up in droves with that watershed trial in Manhattan more than 3 years ago given it's curious juxtaposition to the first draft of the NDAA Act (Section 1021) that came out shortly thereafter  that the U.S. Government now had the authority to usurp the U.S. Constitution in the Executive's unilateral declaration that the U.S. was now technically part of the battlefield in the war on terror with the discretion to incarcerate or murder either American or foreigner without trial.

Chris Hedges in his lawsuit against the Federal Government for the NDAA should have been screaming for AE/911Truth's guidance just based on the statements and inferences on 9/11 in Section 1021 alone. 

Had he reached out to them and used the body of evidence with material support to back it up that not only was the NDAA removing illegally the most important and basic human rights in the Constitution the evidence from the event(s) that spawned the war on terror that incarcerated innocent men in Guantanamo more than 10 years could be proven easily to be a fraud.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:42 | 4841885 crazybob369
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Not only is there not enough evidence, but what evidence there is might actually point to those who are really guilty.  Just keep asking; what the fuck happened to tower #7?  The immaculate collapse.

Tue, 06/10/2014 - 16:19 | 4841831 Playtime's Over
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So we know what we're up against. 1/3 of Americans still support affirmative action prezy. Most are puzzies and the rest dumb as a bag of hammers.  Incredible to her defenders of his blacknesses latest stunt.  I think most humans want to think highly of others, even commies, but he is sooooo consistent.  Catches one off guard when these, "events" pop up. This guy really IS the worst case scenario.  

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