The Cantor-Slayer: Meet David Brat

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The only thing that is more shocking than yesterday's stunning defeat of Republican Eric Cantor at the hand of a completely unknown tea-party candidate, David Brat - an outcome many have called the "biggest blow to the GOP establishment in years" and one which may be reverberating in equities today as "same as it ever was" politics was dealt a major blow - is just how unknown (and underfunded) David Brat is (and was).

 

So for all those curious to learn some more about this Cantor-slaying "David", here first, with no edits, is the information straight from the horse's mouth: his CV from Randolph-Macon College in Virginia.

 

More on his background from Politico

Brat, a Michigan native, is 49 years old. He’s spent the last 18 years working as an economics professor at Randolph Macon College, a school of around 1,200 students located in Ashland, Va. According to news reports, he also spent time working as an economist in the Army and at the accounting firm Arthur Andersen.

He earned his bachelors degree from Hope College, a small liberal arts college in Holland, Mich. He would go on to get a doctorate in economics from American University. Brat, who is Catholic, got his masters from Princeton Theological Seminiary, an institution that, according to its mission statement, “prepares women and men to serve Jesus Christ in ministries marked by faith, integrity, scholarship, competence, compassion, and joy, equipping them for leadership worldwide in congregations and the larger church, in classrooms and the academy, and in the public arena.”

Brat launched his campaign in January. Like many tea party-aligned candidates, he said he wanted to address the nation’s ballooning deficit and that he wanted to be Cantor’s “term limit.”

But, even for a conservative hopeful, he took on the Republican establishment in unusually harsh terms. Shortly after launching his campaign, according to an account in the Culpeper Star Exponent, Brat held an event in which he suggested that Washington politicians charged money to pass laws. He also said that, to get a seat on the House Ethics Committee, a member would have to pay $150,000.

“These days everything is for sale in D.C,” Brat said at the time, according to the paper.

Appearing on Fox News after the race was called, Brat disputed the characterization of the race as being simply a battle between the tea party and establishment. He said he had won support from Republicans across the board who were attracted to his espousal of fiscal conservatism and “faith in God.”

“The press is always out to have these exciting stories to sell papers, and people actually do care about policy,” he said. “I give 30-minute stump speeches on policy and the press made fun of me. …Well the American people are ready for serious issues.”

Brat’s top strategist for much of the race was John Pudner, who operates an Atlanta, Ga.-based political consulting firm, Concentric Direct. Pudner spent the first two months of the contest working for Brat directly, then split off in March to start a Brat-backing super PAC.

Speaking by phone Tuesday night, Pudner said he was in shock. There were times during the race when he felt hopeful, he said, but even Brat’s strongest supporters didn’t see this coming.

“I think we’re all waiting to wake up to see if this really happened,” he said.

On Fox News, Brat called his win a “miracle.”

“I think the people are just ready for some major changes in this country,” he said, “and I was blessed. It’s a miracle.”

 


According to Ryan Lizza, referencing the following video, Brat's campaign was not anti-amnesty but anti-Big Business. Good.

 

 


And by way of the ABC, here once again, is his pre-election profile:

 

Brat, who admits that he has supported several Cantor candidacies over the years, says he mounted his improbable primary campaign because the House GOP's No. 2 leader has lost touch with his constituents, "veering from the Republican creed."

"Years ago he had a good conservative track record, but now he's veered off," Brat told ABC News during an interview on Capitol Hill. "If you go to Heritage and look at their score, I think he's at about a 53 right now. I mean, that's an F-minus."

Heritage Action's scorecard tracks Republican votes, co-sponsorships and other legislative activity to gauge how conservative members of Congress are performing. Cantor actually receives a 52 percent, which ranks seventh among eight Virginia House Republicans.

While a recent profile of the race in the Washington Post characterized Brat as "a potential threat," the quirky challenger knows he has a tough road to victory in the June 10 primary.

"Most of these [primary] races don't kick in until about 30 days prior," he said. "Now everyone's looking, what's the race? It's an open primary and it's just Eric and I on the ticket."

Brat, 49, isn't the first primary challenger Cantor has faced. The Richmond Republican smoked primary challenger Floyd Bayne in 2012 by nearly 60 percentage points before cruising to a 17-point victory in the general election.

But with low primary turnout (just 47,000 voters turned out in the primary two years ago) and anti-incumbency fervor at an all-time high, Cantor's team says they aren't overlooking Brat, although they "don't see him getting a great deal of traction."

"We're on the ground, running the campaign," Cantor campaign spokesman and senior strategist Ray Allen said in a phone interview. "We take every figure seriously and do our own due diligence. It is what it is."

Brat claims "the money is flowing in right now," expanding an underwhelming campaign war chest that he last reported contained just $40,000.

"The race was once viewed as a long-shot, [but] it's tightening now," Brat said. "We're well over double, triple what we had on the books just a month ago and so now we're getting the national attention I always hoped."

Brat complained that Cantor, 50, has a "crony-capitalist mentality" to take care of the corporate sector ahead of the interests of small businesses.

"On the conservative scorecard, on the free market votes, he's doing everything wrong," Brat said. "He's not following what folks in his district want him to do and it's hurting the country."

Allen described Brat as "a weird duck" and criticized him for serving on then-Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine's Joint Advisory Board of Economists.

"Eric Cantor is a conservative leader," Allen, who has advised Cantor's campaigns since 1991, said. "[Brat] doesn't like being called a liberal college professor, but that's what he is and what he's always been. Tea Party conservatives don't serve as an economic adviser to Tim Kaine."

Brat calls himself as a "free market guy," and says he wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act. He also pledged never to increase taxes and to stick to a five-year promise not to vote to increase the debt limit.

"This isn't a personal race. I'm not running against Eric," he stressed. "I'm just running on the founding principles that Adam Smith and free markets - they made us the greatest nation on the Earth. All right? It's no mystery. Our rights, tradition, along with free markets and the Judeo-Christian tradition all together made us the greatest nation on the face of the Earth. I think we're veering off course a little bit there and I want to get us back on that course that brought us to greatness."

If Brat ultimately wins the primary and is seated in the 114 th Congress, he would not commit his vote for speaker to House Speaker John Boehner, but offered his support to any contender who's "more free market and more fiscally responsible."

"I'd have to take a good look at what they're doing but I support people who follow the Republican creed, and so it doesn't look like the leadership is doing a good job on that right now," Brat said.

"They're not free market at all, right? They do not take free market seriously and they're off on fiscal responsibility."

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Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:08 | 4843856 monkeyboy
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Wasn't that Obama's line - Hope?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:12 | 4843864 GetZeeGold
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Finally got some hope....5 years in now.

 

I hope he's a real brat too......as in does not work and play well with others.

 

I want to hear some crying, bitching, and moaning coming out of DC.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:15 | 4843869 CH1
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Amazing that conservatives fall for the same Red Party HOPE every time.

Like moths to a flame... and their death.

Ah well.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:17 | 4843877 GetZeeGold
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Conservatives? Haven't seen one of those for years.

 

Do you really suppose they actually exist?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:28 | 4843910 jbvtme
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i keep looking for the conspiratorial twist: ie. he's their guy. i cant find any. therefore i will not be traveling on any airplane with mr. brat in the future.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:36 | 4843923 GetZeeGold
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Relax, it only happens in threes....and they already got Breitbart, Clancy, and Hastings.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:38 | 4843958 SafelyGraze
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I'm the kochs, and I approve this message

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_brothers

hugs,
the kochs

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:49 | 4843992 GetZeeGold
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Heh heh......those crazy white crackers are destroying the planet.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:56 | 4844008 economics9698
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Cantor is a Republican Jew.  His sacrifice means nothing, no more than other traitors to race or sex like Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio, or black activist Frantz Kebreau (who is forever audited by the IRS) who are demonized by the tribe. 

If you are not in lockstep with the fascist you can get burned.  If Cantor was a Democrat his seat would be safe.  Just like Schumer’s, Feinstein, and all the other “D” tribe members.

The real problem is the Fed will print more money and finance whoever they want and more times than not win, easily.  Until the Fed is eliminated these onesies and twosies election wins mean nothing.

The problem is the Federal Reserve. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:05 | 4844057 SamAdams
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He had me at the term "Judeo-Christian", although he gets points for the extensive brainwashing endured during his economic education, i.e. "Supply and Demand" and the classic "Fun-duh-mentals".

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:07 | 4844073 GetZeeGold
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My ancestors escaped over the Caucus Mountains and made it all the way to America....but I'm still branded as a Caucasian.

 

Life is so unfair.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:47 | 4844225 dirty belly
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My ancestors were here before anything was called 'America' and I'm branded as a 'Native American', as if this land NOW called 'America' WAS always called America, which is was not.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:05 | 4844293 Save_America1st
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Big congrats to Brat!  excellent job knocking out an establishment RINO douche bag like Cantor.  (fuck you, Cantor)

Brat was on Glenn Beck this past Monday morning and he definitely came across well in the interview.  I hadn't heard of him before, but was definintely pulling for him to beat Cantor after hearing the interview.  At that point he was polled as still being 10 points down to Cantor, so maybe either that interview gave him a big pop or the polls were lying (as usual) just to try and discourage any of his supporters further from voting for him.

Either way the win was actually a major landslide and is killer news. 

Look at what UKIP did in the UK 2 weeks ago under the leadership of Nigel Farage.  That's basically the version of the TEA party over there and they kicked serious ass in the recent elections.

The scumbag Left/Right collaborators of our criminal government are both conspiring to destroy the TEA party (and our freedom!) but the more they fight it the more losses they take. 

Gotta fucking love it!  Now to keep the ball rolling and keep beating these criminals.  Get enough TEA party, Conservative, Constitutionalist, Freedom Fighters in office before obama's term ends and there could be a very serious impeachment trial for us all to watch before 2016 rolls around. 

I'd really enjoy the hell outta that!!!

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:13 | 4844355 James_Cole
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Other than working for arthur andersen guy seems like a true believer. Writing books about theology as related to ayn rands childrens fairy tales is serious street cred lol

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:06 | 4845947 ebear
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I wonder how far a politician in America would get running on a pure Randian platform - that is to say, inclusive of her firm athiestic position?  For that matter, are there ANY professed athiests holding office anywhere in the USA?

Seems to me a Muslim has a better chance of being elected in America than an athiest <cue Barry jokes>

If all his positions were the same, but he professed Athiesm, would this guy have won?  That is to say, if you agreed with everything he said except the religious aspect, would you hold your nose and vote for him, or cast your ballot for the guy who claims to believe, and turns up for church every sunday just to prove it?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:11 | 4844689 bh2
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A lot of people overlook the fact that UKIP is not only Euro-skeptic but also firmly free-market libertarian in its outlook and policy preferences. Perhaps when Nigel and his crew are done reforming Britain, we can borrow him to help us out on this side of the Pond. :)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:56 | 4845709 stant
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Just got to love watching al these tv news scum shitting themselves in panic. Guess dynamic corp will get bill $ contact upped some. The contract to beef up security for civil unrest. The place is already like war time Berlin. Sucks to live in fear , and it's thier turn now

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:02 | 4844294 badrhino
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And WHAT was it called?

A rose by any other name...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:45 | 4844855 TahoeBilly2012
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I am sure there is an open door for Cantor in Hollywood. Maybe he can setup lighting or something.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:12 | 4844353 shovelhead
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Well you guys called it a bunch of different names and it was confusing so we came by to help you out.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:16 | 4844366 Save_America1st
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@dirty belly

let it go man...geez.  North America was going to be colonized no matter what, was it not?  The inevitable happened whether you like it or not.  Was everything fare, equitable, etc., etc.?  No, of course not.  But that's life on the 3rd rock from the Sun, man.  That's just how it goes most of the time.

And the "America's" isn't just the United States.  They've always been called North America, Central America, South America.  The entire hemisphere is the "America's", and people in the central and southern parts are also called and actually do consider themselves "Americans".

They actually take a bit of offense to North Americans thinking of themselves as the "only" Americans and for us not considering the rest of the lands and people of the western hemisphere as Americans too.

Anyways...get over it already.  We got bigger fucking fish/Marxists to fry in the country now so you may as well get on board and fight for freedom in all of America with the rest of us who give a shit about preserving the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence, because it counts for everybody, and native Americans are a prime example of what happens when big, corrupt, scumbag government criminals fuck people over and get away with it.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:27 | 4844421 James_Cole
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Anyways...get over it already.  We got bigger fucking fish/Marxists to fry in the country now so you may as well get on board and fight for freedom in all of America with the rest of us who give a shit about preserving the Constitution

Yeah dude, so what if your ancestors were massacred in a genocide by colonists, get over it! Bad enough that we got black people complaining about slavery. Just move on already... much more important issues to deal with, like the terrible oppression of the white man in 'merica. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:32 | 4844447 greatbeard
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Love your schtick man.  Good stuff, always.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:44 | 4844520 Save_America1st
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of course bunches of my ancestors were wiped out by other people.  You don't think the Irish and Scotts haven't experienced massacres many times over and still live under oppression from the British royalty today?  Same bullshit, different place, time, etc. 

Don't you pretty much know that pretty much all people's ancestors on this planet have gone through warfare, massacres, genocide, displacement, etc. etc. at some point in time in history???  Or what, have your ancestors been immune to such actions because they've been the ones doing all the killing of other people throughout history?  What would that make you then, dumb ass?  

But obviously that's not the case (even if you're still a dumb ass), so this whole argument about who has oppressed who in the past and still being angry about it like dirty belly came across as has got to stop. 

The fact is that it happens, is still happening, and if we want it to stop then we need to look ahead to who's fucking with all of us NOW, at this point in time, and stop the mother fuckers. 

And bringing anything racist into this just shows you drink the fucking kool-aid, man.  This isn't a fucking "White" thing...it just happens to be the United States being under attack now from globalists, banksters, government scum, and many others who are throwing everything AND the kitchen sink at this country to try and bring it down. 

Let's not let that happen, ya think? 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:01 | 4844622 James_Cole
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Don't you pretty much know that pretty much all people's ancestors on this planet have gone through warfare, massacres, genocide, displacement, etc. etc. at some point in time in history??? 

So true! Genocide happens folks, deal with it. Oh we obliterated your culture and stuck you on reservations? Boo hoo. DO these people even know that white folks have to put up with evil jewish bankers and wall street criminals stealing our money?? What do native american and black folks have to deal with other than things which are in the past and totally don't matter anymore. 

But obviously that's not the case (even if you're still a dumb ass), so this whole argument about who has oppressed who in the past and still being angry about it like dirty belly came across as has got to stop. 

Again you are so right, people need to suck it up and accept the events which lead to the current status quo, and then accept that status quo. Personally I think no one should talk about the past ever...really gets awkward sometimes and there's nothing to be learned from it. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:06 | 4844650 Overfed
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You aren't talking about learning from the past. You're talking about holding grudges and reparations.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:57 | 4845408 James_Cole
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You're talking about holding grudges and reparations.

The only way to understand / change the present is learn the past, that's all I'm saying. 

People on here love to whine about black people / drone about libertarian values, and the only way to square those circles is by ignoring the past completely...So I understand why zh'ers put so much stock in amensia, it's also great for economics. 

A generation which ignores history has no past — and no future.

It's a funny cognitive dissonance that when people look at individuals they judge them on past actions - the bad often more important than the good - yet when looking at societies in aggregate the reverse is true.

Same with justice: how much time must pass before the statute of limitations on mass murder is lifted? Is mass murder ever OK because others do it? Is it OK for a corporation to kill people? All of these things are related. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:21 | 4845049 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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his insinuations that genocide in this country was only perpetrated by whites is blatant ignorance and completely ignoring historical fact and records.....  on the other hand your comment busts through the bias and hits at the tribal nature of man.... keep it up

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:22 | 4845050 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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doubled up

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:50 | 4844558 Overfed
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Holy fuck, James_Cole, you are such a fucking douche. Yes, let's keep bringing up and bitching about shit that happened hundreds of years before any of us were born. It works well for the people in the Balkans and the ME, why can't it work for us? Dick.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:10 | 4844680 James_Cole
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It works well for the people in the Balkans and the ME, why can't it work for us? Dick.

Reparations in the balkans? Didn't realize that's what they were up to there. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:15 | 4844714 Overfed
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You brought up the blacks complaining about slavery in the post I replied to, you disingenous fuck.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:45 | 4844865 Zerozen
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James_Cole still has his blinkers on, hasn't figured out that human nature is the same in all nations/races. Everybody does their fair share of butchering and being butchered of whatever nation/race is the enemy du jour at a given time. It's part of what makes us human. Accept it.

The one and only difference between the various factions is that some factions are superior at constructing technology and organizing themselves (for economic growth, for war, for exploration and travel, etc.) than other groups.

Native Americans lost out to Europeans, and Taiwanese aboriginals got rolled over by Chinese invaders not because they were "victims", but because they were the losers, unable to compete against the newcomers. No doubt the bleeding heart cultural Marxists will downvote me, but I'm just saying it like it is. The world is Darwinian. We are not all equal. Same as it ever was.

Holding eternal grudges over who did what to whom isn't going to change any of that.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4845292 Tall Tom
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Everybody does their fair share of butchering and being butchered of whatever nation/race is the enemy du jour at a given time. It's part of what makes us human. Accept it.

(...)

Holding eternal grudges over who did what to whom isn't going to change any of that.

 

Well that is also a part of what makes us human. Perhaps you need to accept it.

 

There are no Political Solutions because we are human. Humans are pretty fucked up as most are unwilling to transcend from being human.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:43 | 4845417 Miffed Microbio...
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Tom, get with the program. Today reparations are the name of the game. I thought it would be a good idea if we all held a collective one minute silence for all we and our ancestors had done throught the ages against our fellow humans. Then we could move on with a clean slate. But no. What really was going on was the idea of compensatory payments to those who suffered! And not all, but a select few who have political clout. I wish I could get a compensatory payment for enduring such PC idiocy.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:50 | 4845446 Tall Tom
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I wish I could get a compensatory payment for enduring such PC idiocy.

 

Yeah...You are right!!! I AM ENTITLED. Let's start a Class Action.

 

LMAO.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:26 | 4845330 James_Cole
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Native Americans lost out to Europeans, and Taiwanese aboriginals got rolled over by Chinese invaders not because they were "victims", but because they were the losers, unable to compete against the newcomers. 

lol 

The world is Darwinian. We are not all equal. Same as it ever was.

Clearly someone who does not understand Darwin...

Anyway, if this is how you see the world you must fully support the current crop of elites running the show? The world is 'Darwinian' afterall, right?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:53 | 4844579 Oldwood
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Carrying multi generational hatred and revenge has advanced mankind so greatly. We should always learn and remain aware, but living in the past does nothing but empower those who seek to divide and concur.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:07 | 4844661 James_Cole
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but living in the past does nothing but empower those who seek to divide and concur.

As America1st eloquently points out, oppression (violent and otherwise) is a recurring theme of history. The only hope of dealing with cyclical events inevitable in future is study the past & come to terms with it. 

Ignoring the problems of the past are a certain way to repeat them, thought everyone knew this.  

Study the past if you would define the future.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4845021 karp4cy
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Correction:  the only hope of averting similar future atrocities is to stop participating in the politics of group-think and collectivism, and start viewing oneself as a responsible individual interacting with other individuals.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:47 | 4844876 Winston of Oceania
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Let me tell you son, I live in Iriquois country and their history doesn't differ all that much from the so called white settlers. They came up from the ohio valley wiping out every tribe of "natives" they came across. If the white eyes had not come into the picture they would have kept right on killing them as they were still increasing the size of their empire. We are all what we are...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:03 | 4844958 Simplifiedfrisbee
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With such words, it is a clear recognition and confirmation that your ancestors are plagued with an insubordinate conscious and an ignorance rivaled only by the Third Reich. Your version of freedom is perverse. Your penalty is unfolding within yourself as it is difficult to assimilate why you find self-worth and value in Love as a distant fable that once was and is no longer a viable reality.

Your discernment is frail and vapid. Your version of history is a fantasy and are in no position to give opinions or lack of "understanding" on it. You can learn however and that I can not deny you. Enjoy.

https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability?awesm=on.ted.com_...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:04 | 4844964 Dublinmick
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The native Americans had a very faulty immigration policy

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:33 | 4844173 john39
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Judeo-Christian... total oxymoron, and a complete con getting Christians to believe otherwise...  think about it...  the pharisees had Jesus killed.  would they do the same thing today?  if unsure, ask the Palestinians.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:51 | 4844245 DaveyJones
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that's nit picking isn't it? - other religions

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:02 | 4844292 Cathartes Aura
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Judeo-Christian Catholic liberal-arts Christian HOPE college economics professor Princeton Theological Seminary masters

*cough gag*

I sure some of you are Hoping your Team is on a winning streak.

rah.   rah.

as long as you vote, you're participating.  Hope.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:28 | 4844429 shovelhead
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Sitting on barcalounger eating Cheetos and pretending to be above it all is a solution?

I guess some people don't care if they leave a burnt out wreck of a once nice home to their grandchildren because they were too cool to even try to pick up a hose.

Sad.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:35 | 4844802 Cathartes Aura
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no, what's truly SAD is continuing to participate in a system designed to EAT you and the "grandchildren" you contribute TO that system.

no lounger, no cheetos, and no kids - oh, and no "solutions" that include the systems you continue to vote for.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:02 | 4844951 Dublinmick
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Hercolubus is the answer. The Kali Yuga always ends this way

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:21 | 4845804 iwillikers
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You know nothing of religion or history, but a lot about hating Jews.

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