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The Cantor-Slayer: Meet David Brat

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The only thing that is more shocking than yesterday's stunning defeat of Republican Eric Cantor at the hand of a completely unknown tea-party candidate, David Brat - an outcome many have called the "biggest blow to the GOP establishment in years" and one which may be reverberating in equities today as "same as it ever was" politics was dealt a major blow - is just how unknown (and underfunded) David Brat is (and was).

 

So for all those curious to learn some more about this Cantor-slaying "David", here first, with no edits, is the information straight from the horse's mouth: his CV from Randolph-Macon College in Virginia.

 

More on his background from Politico

Brat, a Michigan native, is 49 years old. He’s spent the last 18 years working as an economics professor at Randolph Macon College, a school of around 1,200 students located in Ashland, Va. According to news reports, he also spent time working as an economist in the Army and at the accounting firm Arthur Andersen.

He earned his bachelors degree from Hope College, a small liberal arts college in Holland, Mich. He would go on to get a doctorate in economics from American University. Brat, who is Catholic, got his masters from Princeton Theological Seminiary, an institution that, according to its mission statement, “prepares women and men to serve Jesus Christ in ministries marked by faith, integrity, scholarship, competence, compassion, and joy, equipping them for leadership worldwide in congregations and the larger church, in classrooms and the academy, and in the public arena.”

Brat launched his campaign in January. Like many tea party-aligned candidates, he said he wanted to address the nation’s ballooning deficit and that he wanted to be Cantor’s “term limit.”

But, even for a conservative hopeful, he took on the Republican establishment in unusually harsh terms. Shortly after launching his campaign, according to an account in the Culpeper Star Exponent, Brat held an event in which he suggested that Washington politicians charged money to pass laws. He also said that, to get a seat on the House Ethics Committee, a member would have to pay $150,000.

“These days everything is for sale in D.C,” Brat said at the time, according to the paper.

Appearing on Fox News after the race was called, Brat disputed the characterization of the race as being simply a battle between the tea party and establishment. He said he had won support from Republicans across the board who were attracted to his espousal of fiscal conservatism and “faith in God.”

“The press is always out to have these exciting stories to sell papers, and people actually do care about policy,” he said. “I give 30-minute stump speeches on policy and the press made fun of me. …Well the American people are ready for serious issues.”

Brat’s top strategist for much of the race was John Pudner, who operates an Atlanta, Ga.-based political consulting firm, Concentric Direct. Pudner spent the first two months of the contest working for Brat directly, then split off in March to start a Brat-backing super PAC.

Speaking by phone Tuesday night, Pudner said he was in shock. There were times during the race when he felt hopeful, he said, but even Brat’s strongest supporters didn’t see this coming.

“I think we’re all waiting to wake up to see if this really happened,” he said.

On Fox News, Brat called his win a “miracle.”

“I think the people are just ready for some major changes in this country,” he said, “and I was blessed. It’s a miracle.”

 


And by way of the ABC, here once again, is his pre-election profile:

 

Brat, who admits that he has supported several Cantor candidacies over the years, says he mounted his improbable primary campaign because the House GOP's No. 2 leader has lost touch with his constituents, "veering from the Republican creed."

"Years ago he had a good conservative track record, but now he's veered off," Brat told ABC News during an interview on Capitol Hill. "If you go to Heritage and look at their score, I think he's at about a 53 right now. I mean, that's an F-minus."

Heritage Action's scorecard tracks Republican votes, co-sponsorships and other legislative activity to gauge how conservative members of Congress are performing. Cantor actually receives a 52 percent, which ranks seventh among eight Virginia House Republicans.

While a recent profile of the race in the Washington Post characterized Brat as "a potential threat," the quirky challenger knows he has a tough road to victory in the June 10 primary.

"Most of these [primary] races don't kick in until about 30 days prior," he said. "Now everyone's looking, what's the race? It's an open primary and it's just Eric and I on the ticket."

Brat, 49, isn't the first primary challenger Cantor has faced. The Richmond Republican smoked primary challenger Floyd Bayne in 2012 by nearly 60 percentage points before cruising to a 17-point victory in the general election.

But with low primary turnout (just 47,000 voters turned out in the primary two years ago) and anti-incumbency fervor at an all-time high, Cantor's team says they aren't overlooking Brat, although they "don't see him getting a great deal of traction."

"We're on the ground, running the campaign," Cantor campaign spokesman and senior strategist Ray Allen said in a phone interview. "We take every figure seriously and do our own due diligence. It is what it is."

Brat claims "the money is flowing in right now," expanding an underwhelming campaign war chest that he last reported contained just $40,000.

"The race was once viewed as a long-shot, [but] it's tightening now," Brat said. "We're well over double, triple what we had on the books just a month ago and so now we're getting the national attention I always hoped."

Brat complained that Cantor, 50, has a "crony-capitalist mentality" to take care of the corporate sector ahead of the interests of small businesses.

"On the conservative scorecard, on the free market votes, he's doing everything wrong," Brat said. "He's not following what folks in his district want him to do and it's hurting the country."

Allen described Brat as "a weird duck" and criticized him for serving on then-Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine's Joint Advisory Board of Economists.

"Eric Cantor is a conservative leader," Allen, who has advised Cantor's campaigns since 1991, said. "[Brat] doesn't like being called a liberal college professor, but that's what he is and what he's always been. Tea Party conservatives don't serve as an economic adviser to Tim Kaine."

Brat calls himself as a "free market guy," and says he wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act. He also pledged never to increase taxes and to stick to a five-year promise not to vote to increase the debt limit.

"This isn't a personal race. I'm not running against Eric," he stressed. "I'm just running on the founding principles that Adam Smith and free markets - they made us the greatest nation on the Earth. All right? It's no mystery. Our rights, tradition, along with free markets and the Judeo-Christian tradition all together made us the greatest nation on the face of the Earth. I think we're veering off course a little bit there and I want to get us back on that course that brought us to greatness."

If Brat ultimately wins the primary and is seated in the 114 th Congress, he would not commit his vote for speaker to House Speaker John Boehner, but offered his support to any contender who's "more free market and more fiscally responsible."

"I'd have to take a good look at what they're doing but I support people who follow the Republican creed, and so it doesn't look like the leadership is doing a good job on that right now," Brat said.

"They're not free market at all, right? They do not take free market seriously and they're off on fiscal responsibility."

 

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Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:05 | 4843854 Capitalist
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This is a win. The less establishment Republicans the better. Yeah I know, I know... they're all the same. One can hope right?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:08 | 4843856 monkeyboy
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Wasn't that Obama's line - Hope?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:12 | 4843864 GetZeeGold
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Finally got some hope....5 years in now.

 

I hope he's a real brat too......as in does not work and play well with others.

 

I want to hear some crying, bitching, and moaning coming out of DC.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:15 | 4843869 CH1
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Amazing that conservatives fall for the same Red Party HOPE every time.

Like moths to a flame... and their death.

Ah well.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:17 | 4843877 GetZeeGold
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Conservatives? Haven't seen one of those for years.

 

Do you really suppose they actually exist?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:28 | 4843910 jbvtme
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i keep looking for the conspiratorial twist: ie. he's their guy. i cant find any. therefore i will not be traveling on any airplane with mr. brat in the future.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:36 | 4843923 GetZeeGold
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Relax, it only happens in threes....and they already got Breitbart, Clancy, and Hastings.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:38 | 4843958 SafelyGraze
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I'm the kochs, and I approve this message

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_brothers

hugs,
the kochs

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:49 | 4843992 GetZeeGold
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Heh heh......those crazy white crackers are destroying the planet.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:56 | 4844008 economics9698
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Cantor is a Republican Jew.  His sacrifice means nothing, no more than other traitors to race or sex like Sarah Palin, Marco Rubio, or black activist Frantz Kebreau (who is forever audited by the IRS) who are demonized by the tribe. 

If you are not in lockstep with the fascist you can get burned.  If Cantor was a Democrat his seat would be safe.  Just like Schumer’s, Feinstein, and all the other “D” tribe members.

The real problem is the Fed will print more money and finance whoever they want and more times than not win, easily.  Until the Fed is eliminated these onesies and twosies election wins mean nothing.

The problem is the Federal Reserve. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:05 | 4844057 SamAdams
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He had me at the term "Judeo-Christian", although he gets points for the extensive brainwashing endured during his economic education, i.e. "Supply and Demand" and the classic "Fun-duh-mentals".

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:07 | 4844073 GetZeeGold
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My ancestors escaped over the Caucus Mountains and made it all the way to America....but I'm still branded as a Caucasian.

 

Life is so unfair.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:47 | 4844225 dirty belly
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My ancestors were here before anything was called 'America' and I'm branded as a 'Native American', as if this land NOW called 'America' WAS always called America, which is was not.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:05 | 4844293 Save_America1st
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Big congrats to Brat!  excellent job knocking out an establishment RINO douche bag like Cantor.  (fuck you, Cantor)

Brat was on Glenn Beck this past Monday morning and he definitely came across well in the interview.  I hadn't heard of him before, but was definintely pulling for him to beat Cantor after hearing the interview.  At that point he was polled as still being 10 points down to Cantor, so maybe either that interview gave him a big pop or the polls were lying (as usual) just to try and discourage any of his supporters further from voting for him.

Either way the win was actually a major landslide and is killer news. 

Look at what UKIP did in the UK 2 weeks ago under the leadership of Nigel Farage.  That's basically the version of the TEA party over there and they kicked serious ass in the recent elections.

The scumbag Left/Right collaborators of our criminal government are both conspiring to destroy the TEA party (and our freedom!) but the more they fight it the more losses they take. 

Gotta fucking love it!  Now to keep the ball rolling and keep beating these criminals.  Get enough TEA party, Conservative, Constitutionalist, Freedom Fighters in office before obama's term ends and there could be a very serious impeachment trial for us all to watch before 2016 rolls around. 

I'd really enjoy the hell outta that!!!

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:13 | 4844355 James_Cole
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Other than working for arthur andersen guy seems like a true believer. Writing books about theology as related to ayn rands childrens fairy tales is serious street cred lol

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:06 | 4845947 ebear
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I wonder how far a politician in America would get running on a pure Randian platform - that is to say, inclusive of her firm athiestic position?  For that matter, are there ANY professed athiests holding office anywhere in the USA?

Seems to me a Muslim has a better chance of being elected in America than an athiest <cue Barry jokes>

If all his positions were the same, but he professed Athiesm, would this guy have won?  That is to say, if you agreed with everything he said except the religious aspect, would you hold your nose and vote for him, or cast your ballot for the guy who claims to believe, and turns up for church every sunday just to prove it?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:11 | 4844689 bh2
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A lot of people overlook the fact that UKIP is not only Euro-skeptic but also firmly free-market libertarian in its outlook and policy preferences. Perhaps when Nigel and his crew are done reforming Britain, we can borrow him to help us out on this side of the Pond. :)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:56 | 4845709 stant
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Just got to love watching al these tv news scum shitting themselves in panic. Guess dynamic corp will get bill $ contact upped some. The contract to beef up security for civil unrest. The place is already like war time Berlin. Sucks to live in fear , and it's thier turn now

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:02 | 4844294 badrhino
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And WHAT was it called?

A rose by any other name...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:45 | 4844855 TahoeBilly2012
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I am sure there is an open door for Cantor in Hollywood. Maybe he can setup lighting or something.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:12 | 4844353 shovelhead
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Well you guys called it a bunch of different names and it was confusing so we came by to help you out.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:16 | 4844366 Save_America1st
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@dirty belly

let it go man...geez.  North America was going to be colonized no matter what, was it not?  The inevitable happened whether you like it or not.  Was everything fare, equitable, etc., etc.?  No, of course not.  But that's life on the 3rd rock from the Sun, man.  That's just how it goes most of the time.

And the "America's" isn't just the United States.  They've always been called North America, Central America, South America.  The entire hemisphere is the "America's", and people in the central and southern parts are also called and actually do consider themselves "Americans".

They actually take a bit of offense to North Americans thinking of themselves as the "only" Americans and for us not considering the rest of the lands and people of the western hemisphere as Americans too.

Anyways...get over it already.  We got bigger fucking fish/Marxists to fry in the country now so you may as well get on board and fight for freedom in all of America with the rest of us who give a shit about preserving the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence, because it counts for everybody, and native Americans are a prime example of what happens when big, corrupt, scumbag government criminals fuck people over and get away with it.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:27 | 4844421 James_Cole
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Anyways...get over it already.  We got bigger fucking fish/Marxists to fry in the country now so you may as well get on board and fight for freedom in all of America with the rest of us who give a shit about preserving the Constitution

Yeah dude, so what if your ancestors were massacred in a genocide by colonists, get over it! Bad enough that we got black people complaining about slavery. Just move on already... much more important issues to deal with, like the terrible oppression of the white man in 'merica. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:32 | 4844447 greatbeard
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Love your schtick man.  Good stuff, always.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:44 | 4844520 Save_America1st
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of course bunches of my ancestors were wiped out by other people.  You don't think the Irish and Scotts haven't experienced massacres many times over and still live under oppression from the British royalty today?  Same bullshit, different place, time, etc. 

Don't you pretty much know that pretty much all people's ancestors on this planet have gone through warfare, massacres, genocide, displacement, etc. etc. at some point in time in history???  Or what, have your ancestors been immune to such actions because they've been the ones doing all the killing of other people throughout history?  What would that make you then, dumb ass?  

But obviously that's not the case (even if you're still a dumb ass), so this whole argument about who has oppressed who in the past and still being angry about it like dirty belly came across as has got to stop. 

The fact is that it happens, is still happening, and if we want it to stop then we need to look ahead to who's fucking with all of us NOW, at this point in time, and stop the mother fuckers. 

And bringing anything racist into this just shows you drink the fucking kool-aid, man.  This isn't a fucking "White" thing...it just happens to be the United States being under attack now from globalists, banksters, government scum, and many others who are throwing everything AND the kitchen sink at this country to try and bring it down. 

Let's not let that happen, ya think? 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:01 | 4844622 James_Cole
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Don't you pretty much know that pretty much all people's ancestors on this planet have gone through warfare, massacres, genocide, displacement, etc. etc. at some point in time in history??? 

So true! Genocide happens folks, deal with it. Oh we obliterated your culture and stuck you on reservations? Boo hoo. DO these people even know that white folks have to put up with evil jewish bankers and wall street criminals stealing our money?? What do native american and black folks have to deal with other than things which are in the past and totally don't matter anymore. 

But obviously that's not the case (even if you're still a dumb ass), so this whole argument about who has oppressed who in the past and still being angry about it like dirty belly came across as has got to stop. 

Again you are so right, people need to suck it up and accept the events which lead to the current status quo, and then accept that status quo. Personally I think no one should talk about the past ever...really gets awkward sometimes and there's nothing to be learned from it. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:06 | 4844650 Overfed
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You aren't talking about learning from the past. You're talking about holding grudges and reparations.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:57 | 4845408 James_Cole
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You're talking about holding grudges and reparations.

The only way to understand / change the present is learn the past, that's all I'm saying. 

People on here love to whine about black people / drone about libertarian values, and the only way to square those circles is by ignoring the past completely...So I understand why zh'ers put so much stock in amensia, it's also great for economics. 

A generation which ignores history has no past — and no future.

It's a funny cognitive dissonance that when people look at individuals they judge them on past actions - the bad often more important than the good - yet when looking at societies in aggregate the reverse is true.

Same with justice: how much time must pass before the statute of limitations on mass murder is lifted? Is mass murder ever OK because others do it? Is it OK for a corporation to kill people? All of these things are related. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:21 | 4845049 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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his insinuations that genocide in this country was only perpetrated by whites is blatant ignorance and completely ignoring historical fact and records.....  on the other hand your comment busts through the bias and hits at the tribal nature of man.... keep it up

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:22 | 4845050 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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doubled up

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:50 | 4844558 Overfed
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Holy fuck, James_Cole, you are such a fucking douche. Yes, let's keep bringing up and bitching about shit that happened hundreds of years before any of us were born. It works well for the people in the Balkans and the ME, why can't it work for us? Dick.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:10 | 4844680 James_Cole
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It works well for the people in the Balkans and the ME, why can't it work for us? Dick.

Reparations in the balkans? Didn't realize that's what they were up to there. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:15 | 4844714 Overfed
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You brought up the blacks complaining about slavery in the post I replied to, you disingenous fuck.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:45 | 4844865 Zerozen
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James_Cole still has his blinkers on, hasn't figured out that human nature is the same in all nations/races. Everybody does their fair share of butchering and being butchered of whatever nation/race is the enemy du jour at a given time. It's part of what makes us human. Accept it.

The one and only difference between the various factions is that some factions are superior at constructing technology and organizing themselves (for economic growth, for war, for exploration and travel, etc.) than other groups.

Native Americans lost out to Europeans, and Taiwanese aboriginals got rolled over by Chinese invaders not because they were "victims", but because they were the losers, unable to compete against the newcomers. No doubt the bleeding heart cultural Marxists will downvote me, but I'm just saying it like it is. The world is Darwinian. We are not all equal. Same as it ever was.

Holding eternal grudges over who did what to whom isn't going to change any of that.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4845292 Tall Tom
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Everybody does their fair share of butchering and being butchered of whatever nation/race is the enemy du jour at a given time. It's part of what makes us human. Accept it.

(...)

Holding eternal grudges over who did what to whom isn't going to change any of that.

 

Well that is also a part of what makes us human. Perhaps you need to accept it.

 

There are no Political Solutions because we are human. Humans are pretty fucked up as most are unwilling to transcend from being human.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:43 | 4845417 Miffed Microbio...
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Tom, get with the program. Today reparations are the name of the game. I thought it would be a good idea if we all held a collective one minute silence for all we and our ancestors had done throught the ages against our fellow humans. Then we could move on with a clean slate. But no. What really was going on was the idea of compensatory payments to those who suffered! And not all, but a select few who have political clout. I wish I could get a compensatory payment for enduring such PC idiocy.

Miffed;-)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:50 | 4845446 Tall Tom
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I wish I could get a compensatory payment for enduring such PC idiocy.

 

Yeah...You are right!!! I AM ENTITLED. Let's start a Class Action.

 

LMAO.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:26 | 4845330 James_Cole
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Native Americans lost out to Europeans, and Taiwanese aboriginals got rolled over by Chinese invaders not because they were "victims", but because they were the losers, unable to compete against the newcomers. 

lol 

The world is Darwinian. We are not all equal. Same as it ever was.

Clearly someone who does not understand Darwin...

Anyway, if this is how you see the world you must fully support the current crop of elites running the show? The world is 'Darwinian' afterall, right?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:53 | 4844579 Oldwood
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Carrying multi generational hatred and revenge has advanced mankind so greatly. We should always learn and remain aware, but living in the past does nothing but empower those who seek to divide and concur.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:07 | 4844661 James_Cole
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but living in the past does nothing but empower those who seek to divide and concur.

As America1st eloquently points out, oppression (violent and otherwise) is a recurring theme of history. The only hope of dealing with cyclical events inevitable in future is study the past & come to terms with it. 

Ignoring the problems of the past are a certain way to repeat them, thought everyone knew this.  

Study the past if you would define the future.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4845021 karp4cy
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Correction:  the only hope of averting similar future atrocities is to stop participating in the politics of group-think and collectivism, and start viewing oneself as a responsible individual interacting with other individuals.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:47 | 4844876 Winston of Oceania
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Let me tell you son, I live in Iriquois country and their history doesn't differ all that much from the so called white settlers. They came up from the ohio valley wiping out every tribe of "natives" they came across. If the white eyes had not come into the picture they would have kept right on killing them as they were still increasing the size of their empire. We are all what we are...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:03 | 4844958 Simplifiedfrisbee
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With such words, it is a clear recognition and confirmation that your ancestors are plagued with an insubordinate conscious and an ignorance rivaled only by the Third Reich. Your version of freedom is perverse. Your penalty is unfolding within yourself as it is difficult to assimilate why you find self-worth and value in Love as a distant fable that once was and is no longer a viable reality.

Your discernment is frail and vapid. Your version of history is a fantasy and are in no position to give opinions or lack of "understanding" on it. You can learn however and that I can not deny you. Enjoy.

https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_on_vulnerability?awesm=on.ted.com_...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:04 | 4844964 Dublinmick
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The native Americans had a very faulty immigration policy

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:33 | 4844173 john39
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Judeo-Christian... total oxymoron, and a complete con getting Christians to believe otherwise...  think about it...  the pharisees had Jesus killed.  would they do the same thing today?  if unsure, ask the Palestinians.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:51 | 4844245 DaveyJones
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that's nit picking isn't it? - other religions

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:02 | 4844292 Cathartes Aura
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Judeo-Christian Catholic liberal-arts Christian HOPE college economics professor Princeton Theological Seminary masters

*cough gag*

I sure some of you are Hoping your Team is on a winning streak.

rah.   rah.

as long as you vote, you're participating.  Hope.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:28 | 4844429 shovelhead
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Sitting on barcalounger eating Cheetos and pretending to be above it all is a solution?

I guess some people don't care if they leave a burnt out wreck of a once nice home to their grandchildren because they were too cool to even try to pick up a hose.

Sad.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:35 | 4844802 Cathartes Aura
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no, what's truly SAD is continuing to participate in a system designed to EAT you and the "grandchildren" you contribute TO that system.

no lounger, no cheetos, and no kids - oh, and no "solutions" that include the systems you continue to vote for.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:02 | 4844951 Dublinmick
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Hercolubus is the answer. The Kali Yuga always ends this way

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:21 | 4845804 iwillikers
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You know nothing of religion or history, but a lot about hating Jews.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:43 | 4844218 JRobby
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The problem here is the people who really run the Fed. Not these tools they put in Fed positions.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:42 | 4843969 sodbuster
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Harry Truman was correct when he observed," My choices in life were to either be a piano player in a whore house, or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!"

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:03 | 4844058 FrankieGoesToHo...
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Well, the piano player brings joy to all who listen....  cant be all that similar.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:56 | 4844261 DaveyJones
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or a whore in a piano house

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:04 | 4844641 fooshorter
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or a house in a whore piano...

 

 

wait..

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:30 | 4845346 Tall Tom
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You can make a whore moan twice by stiffing her. Perhaps the piano is necessary to drown out the sounds of the moans.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:03 | 4844300 JRobby
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Then dropped 2. Adhering to the plan as to not upset the oligarchs.

The Observant knew all was lost in 1913. 1945 enlightened a few more.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:53 | 4844580 yum-roadkill
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Dont forget about Vince Flynn.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:14 | 4844107 Calmyourself
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Damn  good advice, hot tubs as well..

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:32 | 4844171 robobbob
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he's catholic and went to a catholic university: therefore he's a jesuit asset under control of the black pope...........there, now you don't have to lose that cynical edge.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:52 | 4844248 Nigh Eve
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Actually... Hope College and Princeton Theological Seminary are both Protestant (and, more specifically, their sponsoring denominations both have Calvinistic backgrounds and embrace the so-called "reformed tradition" of theology.)

Hope College is affilliated with the Reformed Church in America.

Princeton Theological Seminary is Presbyterian.

Both of those denominations are very similar in their theology.

During my lifetime, I have had ministers in my churches from both of the above schools.

Richmond, incidentally, is also the home of another popular Presbyterian seminary.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:06 | 4844317 Cathartes Aura
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Hope College is smack in the middle of the "Dutch Reformist" Holland, MI - was also home to the Prince of Blackwater.

tho' he's currently shape-shifting over in Dubai. . .

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:37 | 4844473 Dublinmick
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You can look into his eyes and tell he is crooked.

 

I quit voting, when the call me on the phone and ask who I would vote for if the election was today, I tell them I would write in my own name.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:16 | 4844367 chapaev's ghost
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Ecumenism has pretty much erased the distinctions between mainline Protestant denominations and Catholicism. There is as much difference in a Princeton Presbyterian and a Georgetown Catholic as there is etween a Republican and a Democrat. Don't even metion Episcopalians. Wherever you find four of them, you're bound to find a fifth.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:48 | 4844537 shovelhead
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Episcopalians= Catholic lite.

Bells and smells without big hats.

People who want to see Utopia in the next life don't bother me at all.

It's the ones that want to engineer Utopia in this life with themselves in charge that scare me. Their idea of heaven is telling me what I have to do and making me pay for that 'enlightened privilege'.

The first you can ignore. The second, not so much.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:54 | 4844255 chapaev's ghost
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Relax, airplane crashes are how Democrats (well, I really mean Hillary) kill people. That and multiple- gunshots-to-the-head suicides.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:20 | 4844734 americanreality
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Mike Connell, Paul Wellstone, JFK jr.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:52 | 4845691 Marco
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Well he is a Catholic :p

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:57 | 4844266 Chupacabra-322
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@ GetZeeGold,

"Do you really suppose they actually exist."

Absolutely not! They're all Fascist now. Every single Criminal one of them. Top to bottom.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:33 | 4843931 Bro of the Sorr...
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i have hope, not that he changes anything, because the system is designed to make that an impossibility, but that his election is a symbolic representation that more and more americans are waking up to the fact that both the red and blue team establishments are actually one and the same.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:57 | 4844027 Tsunami Wave
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I agree with you. I'm happy I got to enjoy my high last night of seeing Cantor get trounced.... But this is politics in the end. Good people can get corrupted, or already corrupted people lie to the public and manage to get into the business. We'll see what happens over time when this guy is able to prove himself. Thankfully, he isn't some whacky tea-party type that says dumb things about rape or make other nonsensical comments. He seems well educated and actually believes in morality.

We'll see what comes with time. And with the awful issues happening now (push for 'gun control', amnesty, passing spending bills)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:09 | 4844087 smithcreek
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I really did not want to read the comment section after such a great outcome in this primary.  A bit of cynicism is healthy, but I assumed today the comments would be a flood of the usual assholes trying to outdo each other to see who can be the most cynical and by extension, the most intelligent by trivializing and explaining how only stupid "sheeple" would believe this win actually means something.  Happy to see, for the most part, I was wrong.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:37 | 4844184 Tsunami Wave
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This is ZH man.. Hah. People here are gonna try to outdo one another with the cynicism, blaming the political system, all that jazz. I am (or maybe we are who we are here) because we're sick of being constantly let down and severely disappointed. The republic has suffered too much frankly, we have don't have room for any more mistakes.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:11 | 4844345 Chupacabra-322
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Serverely disappointed is putting it mildly. I'm funking pissed, big time. It's completely clear now we live in a lawless Nation. The Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. open criminality is no longer "hidden in plain view." It's all out in the open for all the world to see. For example:

Benghazi.

Fast & Furious

Arming, funding, & training Al CIA duh terror organizations.

CIA drug running / money laundering through the tax payer TBTFBanksters.

NSA Criminal illegal spying of The American People / Meta Data etc..

Clapper, perjury.

Economic QE to infinity terrorism.

IRS targeting of political dissent.

Torture.

American assisnation kill lists.

Illegal wars of aggression without congressional authority.

Destabilization campaigns of Soverign countries Ukrain, Syria, Lybia.

Solandra.

Militarized Criminal Police State.

And, that's just off the top of my head. Outside of mass arrest, absolutely nothing will change. The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate will continue to rape, pillage & rage more Genocide wars against the world.

It's a Criminal system, owned by criminals & run by criminals.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:28 | 4844400 dontgoforit
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You present a stong case, Chupa and I'm with you.  Perhaps Dr. Brat - and others like him who may knock off the professional politicians - may be able to undo some of the crap that's been done.  How hard can it be if you have enough right-minded people elected?  I gotta throw my support to men of Dr. Brat's calibre.  I still believe in 'We the People.'  It's the people in D.C. who've been screwing us over.  Especially obama, pelosi, reid and the left.  It can be fixed.  I wrote Dr. Brat an email earlier and gave him my wish list: balanced budget amendment, term limits, audit and end the Fed, states rights, limited federal government, etc.  I cannot give up.  It's not my nature to do so.  Good luck my friend.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:44 | 4844523 Chupacabra-322
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What you describe perhaps my have worked at some time. However, the Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. empire is in the process of collapse. What we're witnessing today is Epic in nature when you consider the full context & scope of where we are at & what bought us here.

Absolutely Nothing will come between Total Complete Full Spectrum World Domination between the Megalomanics of the world & who own the systems of Debt Bondage & Enslavement.

Its about ownership / Control. Nothing more. The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate own the Political, Economic, Education & Religious systems which control mankind. And, if even a whisper of a threat of losing control of those systems, the end result, for them at least would be the Sampson Option.

Mutual Destruction of mankind.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:00 | 4844617 Oldwood
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When a cancer reaches a certain point of advancement, any treatment that will kill the cancer will also kill the host.

I feel like I am the point of declaring, either they stop or I will shoot myself. I may already have....

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:21 | 4844740 Chupacabra-322
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@ Oldwood,

"I may already have...."

We've all shot ourselves at one time or another. the Social Engineerrs which own the systems of Debt Bondage & Enslavement expect that.

Just do NOT ever take it Literally. EVER!

Interesting times my friend. Interesting times. Stick around. Expect some Perp walks soon. Real soon.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:42 | 4845412 Tall Tom
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I have fet the same way. However just because the system will die does not mean that you have to die. I hope that you are not that attached and have that much investment (emotional( to the current system.

 

You can divorce yourself from the system without dying. Many have and continue to do so.

 

What they do...they do. It is not necessary that you do what they do.. Just see the ugliness of the system for that which it is. Then opt out as much as possible and concentrate on rebuilding yourself and for your loved ones.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:00 | 4844613 shovelhead
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Libertarians are the Charlie Browns of politics.

They still think that freedom from oppressive govt. and true free markets are worth believing  in and trying to recover no matter how many times they yank the football away.

Cynicism is telling jokes as you stand meekly in front of the execution pit.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:51 | 4844894 Raging Debate
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Smithcreek - I agree. The voters are withdrawing there consent. I withdrew mine in 2008 after the bank bailouts because that is not capitalism. The management were not even forced to resign as part of the conditions of the bailout. They were paid par for shit in a box assets, CDO's etc when a haircut was in order. Nope taxpayer got to be the entire bagholder.

I understand the CB model and reserve currency status and what it entails. I figured we all enjoyed the boom of the 80's and 90's (sorry millenials you really got a shit sandwich) so we suffer the bust together, use tech to reorganize much faster than other periods of history with that model and move on. Such in banking profited off our misery instead! It was fucking cruel and yeah the Jewish bankers should start reading that Torah again in how to treat the rest of the species inluding giving back to the global community instead of building another golden calf that starves the rest of the society. Pretend we're Moses and we're pissed coming down from Mt. Sinai and realizing centralizing all the wealth is a DEATH sentence! It kills trade and then you get wars.

For God sake they couldn't even give a break on interest rates for the citizens bailing them out!! But megacorps got near 0% loans.

Since the primaries are the wealthiest portion of our society they are telling government it just isn't working anymore, period. When growth stalls in this class, they begin changing there minds in how the country should be run. It is all self-interest but it is positive just the same.

I hope every alternative media and contacts are paying close attention to voter fraud now. If a positive trend develops I would say it would be two election cycles to see real policy changes. That is going to include some shit sandwiches in the short term to rebalance the budget to encourage innovation in the long-term. We all are going to take a bite for it to work, even though the general public has already had to take there first two or three bites.

As we are no longer reserve currency, that is China now according to the IMF, we will downsize the military and intelligence budgets like the Brits did in the early 1930's when reserve currency went to America. Nukes negates arguments made by the defense establishment about defense cuts based on potential growing threats like Hitler in there time. Who messed with Russia militarily as they collapsed and restructured? Our scenerio is similar but America has some advantages they didn't and our fall is 5 feet where there's was 20. Recovery can be a three year stint verse a decade plus compared to Russia. America is still a $12T economy even after some restructuring.

The job of reserve currency is also job of global policeman. Let the Chinese do there job, we have much to reorganize and heal here, especially trust. Nobody trusts anybody and the rule of law must be restored and seen as such for full confidence to return. The economy is at near bottom despite the stock market so it is a good time to invest BUT only when rule of law has been res-established. Until then I invest .10 cents when I could invest a dollar. And no globalists, I will not be made to invest East using the stick. I have been beaten enough by that for 15 years and I am growing very upset about it. Too much stick in all things out of this global government and America these days.

Many people are on to that game sincluding our military so if it continues, expect it to effect those investments over there and the Chinese to consider much more independence in the part of the cycle where many nations are returning to protectionism (which is a good thing right now).

Countries are not small businesses, they are a big ship with a tiny rudder. Change will take time as in several years before the majority start to feel a bit positive again about the future if a trend of voter revolution continues (it will). If it is tampered with expect real revolution (God I hope NOT!)

Getting money out of politics has to be goal one every person on the street knows this. Then anti-trust so companies and funds must innovate to grow instead or get taxed. No more offshoring and America needs to muscle havens a tad more. Not that the horse can be brought back into the barn but such must face some penalty of discomfort for cheating.

 Thanks for letting me share my thoughts here. There are a lot of headwinds globally now even if a positive trend emerges. Look after one another! If we avoid WW3 the future in the next cycle is going to be great!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:51 | 4844895 Raging Debate
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Smithcreek - I agree. The voters are withdrawing there consent. I withdrew mine in 2008 after the bank bailouts because that is not capitalism. The management were not even forced to resign as part of the conditions of the bailout. They were paid par for shit in a box assets, CDO's etc when a haircut was in order. Nope taxpayer got to be the entire bagholder.

I understand the CB model and reserve currency status and what it entails. I figured we all enjoyed the boom of the 80's and 90's (sorry millenials you really got a shit sandwich) so we suffer the bust together, use tech to reorganize much faster than other periods of history with that model and move on. Such in banking profited off our misery instead! It was fucking cruel and yeah the Jewish bankers should start reading that Torah again in how to treat the rest of the species inluding giving back to the global community instead of building another golden calf that starves the rest of the society. Pretend we're Moses and we're pissed coming down from Mt. Sinai and realizing centralizing all the wealth is a DEATH sentence! It kills trade and then you get wars.

For God sake they couldn't even give a break on interest rates for the citizens bailing them out!! But megacorps got near 0% loans.

Since the primaries are the wealthiest portion of our society they are telling government it just isn't working anymore, period. When growth stalls in this class, they begin changing there minds in how the country should be run. It is all self-interest but it is positive just the same.

I hope every alternative media and contacts are paying close attention to voter fraud now. If a positive trend develops I would say it would be two election cycles to see real policy changes. That is going to include some shit sandwiches in the short term to rebalance the budget to encourage innovation in the long-term. We all are going to take a bite for it to work, even though the general public has already had to take there first two or three bites.

As we are no longer reserve currency, that is China now according to the IMF, we will downsize the military and intelligence budgets like the Brits did in the early 1930's when reserve currency went to America. Nukes negates arguments made by the defense establishment about defense cuts based on potential growing threats like Hitler in there time. Who messed with Russia militarily as they collapsed and restructured? Our scenerio is similar but America has some advantages they didn't and our fall is 5 feet where there's was 20. Recovery can be a three year stint verse a decade plus compared to Russia. America is still a $12T economy even after some restructuring.

The job of reserve currency is also job of global policeman. Let the Chinese do there job, we have much to reorganize and heal here, especially trust. Nobody trusts anybody and the rule of law must be restored and seen as such for full confidence to return. The economy is at near bottom despite the stock market so it is a good time to invest BUT only when rule of law has been res-established. Until then I invest .10 cents when I could invest a dollar. And no globalists, I will not be made to invest East using the stick. I have been beaten enough by that for 15 years and I am growing very upset about it. Too much stick in all things out of this global government and America these days.

Many people are on to that game sincluding our military so if it continues, expect it to effect those investments over there and the Chinese to consider much more independence in the part of the cycle where many nations are returning to protectionism (which is a good thing right now).

Countries are not small businesses, they are a big ship with a tiny rudder. Change will take time as in several years before the majority start to feel a bit positive again about the future if a trend of voter revolution continues (it will). If it is tampered with expect real revolution (God I hope NOT!)

Getting money out of politics has to be goal one every person on the street knows this. Then anti-trust so companies and funds must innovate to grow instead or get taxed. No more offshoring and America needs to muscle havens a tad more. Not that the horse can be brought back into the barn but such must face some penalty of discomfort for cheating.

 Thanks for letting me share my thoughts here. There are a lot of headwinds globally now even if a positive trend emerges. Look after one another! If we avoid WW3 the future in the next cycle is going to be great!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:42 | 4844505 Dublinmick
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The corruption begins in law school unless of course your diddy was a lawyer and then it begins at conception.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:53 | 4844576 GeorgeHayduke
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"Thankfully, he isn't some whacky tea-party type that says dumb things about rape or make other nonsensical comments. He seems well educated and actually believes in morality."

He's in the minority there. Speaking without thinking seems to be the standard operating procedure for Tea Party types. Shunning education and intellectualism also seems to be their style making this guy an outsider although they'll play along with him as long as he tows their line.

Although I'm not a conservative, it'll be nice to a well-adjusted, non-nutcase conservative in DC. There is the possibility he still will say stupid things as most people who feel the need to push their Jeezus beliefs on everyone else seems to do. And, he's associated with the Tea Party which seems to promote and praise people who say and do stupid things. 

It's also interesting to see people who view government as the single biggest problem on the planet get excited when one of their guys get elected to be part of the system they hate. But then contradictory beliefs centered on fear-based emotions is the foundation of modern conservatism.

We'll see how this plays out. The election could also mean a guaranteed win for the Dems in Virginia with Brat looking too extreme.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:00 | 4844623 Oldwood
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Ross Perot was a nut case too. Where exactly was he wrong???

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:08 | 4844665 GeorgeHayduke
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Ross Perot wasn't a nutcase in the mold of today. His main emphasis was on economics. He didn't start spouting biblical morality, young earth nonsense and complete ignorance about science as many of the nutcase right wingers do today. There is a difference.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:39 | 4844827 Seer
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In defense of the truth, Ross Perot WAS correct, BUT, he was also a hypocrite.  Look into the background of EDS and you'll see why: hint: government contracts.  And then Perot Systems (from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perot_Systems):

Perot Systems provided information technology services in the industries of health care, government, manufacturing, banking, insurance and others. Perot Systems was especially strong in health care industries with services such as digitizing and automating medical records.

Banking.  Government.  Insurance.  Health Care...

Why I shun making anyone an idol or hero.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:47 | 4845152 Almost Solvent
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Exactly.

 

People who talk with absolutes (about anything) always make me question their motives first.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:25 | 4845600 JRobby
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Carlin: "It's a big club, and you ain't in it"

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:33 | 4846034 Duffy Duck
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I'm not clear on why you think it was hypocritical for Perot/Perot Systems to engage in those enterprises.  He never said anything, to my knowledge, which would contradict his political platform.

I know he irritated the free-trade-is-alwa-great school of Dumb Libertarian Ideas...  but that's because he was right, asa candidat, about the effects on the real economy and middle class that NAFTA would necessarily have.

For free traders, who gives a fuck about consequences to American workers if a relative handful of people get a higher dividend.  Naturally this sort of talk is dangerous here, but just because you like libertarian ideas in principle doesn't mean you want them all, in practice.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:08 | 4844649 shovelhead
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Doesn't much matter what he says.

If he's a Constitutionalist small govt. reformer type he's got two political machines to twist his words into unflattering soundbites and a MSM happy to spread the lies.

I hope he trounces Cantor and then the Democrat and makes it to Washington.

Then we'll see.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:23 | 4844133 Jugdish787
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I am not falling for red party hope but I do see this as a positive development.  Cantor was one of those pricks that acted with impunity, a DC rat of the highest order and I am glad he is gone.  

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:41 | 4844206 JRobby
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Mixed emotions on this one I guess.

Divide and confuse the electorate. It still works.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:04 | 4844642 GeorgeHayduke
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Yes. Or they are throwing the Tea Party folks a bone to calm them some all the while knowing that one or two or even a few outsiders will not be able to change the status quo they spend so much time and money to maintain.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:17 | 4844721 greatbeard
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>> Like moths to a flame...

Or turds to a septic tank.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:45 | 4845143 Grinder74
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Reggie Love, is that you?  Barack called to say he's feeling a little randy right now.

 

#BuckFarack

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:27 | 4846013 Duffy Duck
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I feel like you'd be a happier camper over at HuffPo. 

See how many times you can use the term "right wing" in lieu of a substantive argument. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:46 | 4843985 konputa
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Brat.

 

Sausage.

 

I hope he starts swinging it the moment he gets to that shit hole DC.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:57 | 4844599 DullKnife
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Cantor showed his colors in the latest "Masses of kids crossing the Border" episode by saying "It is time to cut a deal" with Obama.  

Jeez!

What a sellout.

When RINO's run the Republican Party, does that not make the US a One Party State in effective?

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:02 | 4844630 Oldwood
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What, are you against...compromise???

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:35 | 4844459 MFL8240
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Waiting on the liberal media to tell us he is dumb too?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:02 | 4845491 Jonas Parker
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My wife is a Hope College grad... good school!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:10 | 4843861 Terminus C
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Meet the new boss...

Great that the fuckbag who was there got booted, but... unless there are a whole shitload of TPers/non establishment Representitives and Senators there will be no change.  And even then...  They can be purchased and corrupted as easily as the last crew.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:20 | 4843884 CH1
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And fear (read hate) of Mexicans was the underlying issue.

Good way to drive 30 million voters away from the Red party forever.

Team Red - Keeping Hope Alive... for the Blues!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:24 | 4843901 fonzannoon
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So this guy has spent his adult life as a professor.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:34 | 4843932 GetZeeGold
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As opposed to being a lawyer......maybe he's good at math?

 

Maybe he can provide some Common Core math tudoring to the rest of Congress. Those guys can't even balance a checkbook!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:34 | 4843942 fonzannoon
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Arthur Anderson was the best there ever was at math, mostly covering it up.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:43 | 4843975 GetZeeGold
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True...but it's a damn shame his community organizing skills were totally overlooked. I blame it on keeping him from being elected as President.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:11 | 4844351 Cathartes Aura
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weirdly silent here on the Arthur Anderson, econ professor tags - but I guess when the Hope cap is in place

there will be excuses made all round.

upvote Fonz, for the contrary.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:26 | 4844758 shovelhead
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If he makes it to Washington, it might make a refreshing change to have someone who can count without using their fingers.

I agree that AA were turd polishers of incomparable ability until the inevitable happens and the sheen wears off.

The question is will he become a wax on or wax off kind of guy.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:39 | 4843950 COSMOS
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Better than spending an entire life as a scumbag politician sucking taxpayer money for a lifetime.

Listen anyone outside the system is a big plus.  People say oh well this guy has no political experience, I am like what the HECK.  Yeah I dont want someone that knows how to con the political system to make money in there. I want my next door neigbour or me for that matter of fact.  People that know what this runaway borrowing, spending, and taxation are doing to America.  Having political experience is like being a seasoned criminal in my opinion.

Political experience is an euphemism for white collar elected official criminal.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:40 | 4843964 fonzannoon
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If the bar is lifetime scumbag politician than I guess the academia lifer made it over, this is very bullish for Jeremy Siegel's political career.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:56 | 4844020 therover
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+1 on the lawyer comment.

Fuck most lawyers, and ALL those in politics. Those are the lowest scumbags on Earth. The only ones lower are the lawyer politicians hooked into wall street.

 Chris Christie...the epitomy of the lowest scumbag politician on Earth.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:48 | 4844229 JRobby
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The Fed might benefit from some math and economics schooling? Just a thought.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:31 | 4844441 Cathartes Aura
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the Fed might benefit from some prayers said too?

any other rituals we can list to help this highly successful private institution that has underpinned USINC since well before you were born?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:06 | 4845237 Seer
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Roscoe Bartlett tried, but really made little headway...

Peak oil’s voice in Congress about to get louder Peak oil’s voice in Congress about to get louder Peak oil’s voice in Congress about to get louder

http://transitionvoice.com/2011/01/interview-rep-roscoe-bartlett/

And most here can attest to the fact that, despite his valiant efforts, Ron Paul made little headway as well.

The bottom line is that the "math" has everything to do with the ability to do work, and that energy IS the KEY issue.

"Energy Resources and Our Future" - Speech by Admiral Hyman Rickover in 1957

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/4394

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:04 | 4844304 DaveyJones
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and the magic profession prior to honest leadership is............?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:32 | 4845092 Dublinmick
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The magic profession for competent leadership is carpentry

 

At other times it is being able to pull the sword of destiny from the stone.

 

The ability to organize a band of merry men in Sherwood Forest

 

To tame a horse nobody else could ..... Brucephalus (Alexander)

 

A slave who can defy and emperor (Maximus)

 

A guy who screams "freedom" while upon the rack (Randall Wallace)

 

A man who could foretell the arrival of Custer by performing the Sun Dance for two days (Sitting Bull)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:09 | 4845254 Seer
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"Leaders" assemble/promote followers.  When I was a kid I stated that I would NOT wish to be a "leader," that, instead, I would wish to be a "guider."  The best outcomes come from wisdom.  Encourage people to be their own wise counsel, as placing such level of trust in another only opens up oneself to eventual deception.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:47 | 4845150 Grinder74
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At least he's a real one, not an adjunct lecturer like "Constitutional Professor" Barry Soetero.

#BuckFarack

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:41 | 4843966 ArgentDawn
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Hacks always pull the card

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:05 | 4844066 boogerbently
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That philosophy will GAIN him more American votes, than lose him minority votes.

If he can incorporate foreign aid into his list of "illegals NOT to financially support" he'll be very successful.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:46 | 4843982 Georgia_Boy
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You must be a Red yourself, that or a pretty poor quality conservative, because you're falling right into the Blues' frame. They WANT you to think this is all about immigration, because it lets them go to their go-to defense, whenever they feel there's a threat or there are people in America who genuinely disagree with them ... they whine that their opposition is racist. Most of them don't seem to know what the Fed even does or why it's important.

Anyway, it's not like we're better off just pretending the issue isn't there, which is what we're doing now. Just legislatively delaying amnesty and hoping the open-borders crowd just forgets they can buy votes with it or something.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 08:55 | 4843987 foodstampbarry
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@CH1 So believing the law should be followed is hating mexicans?

Unreal.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:13 | 4844102 CH1
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So believing the law should be followed is...

The Law? Are you freeking kidding me? The LAW?

"The law" is printed up by corrupt politicians on a daily basis!

You may as well worship a golden calf.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:18 | 4844122 Calmyourself
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For you nihilism is preferred?  What is your point?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:24 | 4844135 CH1
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I'm for life. I'm for LIVING one's own life, not spending it in obedience to barbarians.

My point is that the entire system is a scam. It's purpose is to get you to willingly obey and hand over your money... to die for them when they need it.

Government is anti-life and anti-God. It robs millions on a daily basis, yet pretends to be Holy. It is (in Jesus' words no less), abominable.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:07 | 4844324 greatbeard
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Simply amazing a post like this gets red flagged.  It just goes to show, around here, you either play for the red team or you are the enemy.   Neutral, apolitical, independent, all enemies. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:28 | 4844425 Cathartes Aura
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the ZH voter threads is where folks come out of their closet,

and we all get to see the laughable definitions of the "red pill" meme stretched to the breaking points. . .

looks like his wiki page is being constantly updated to reel 'em in. . .

Brat has stated he isn’t a Randian, but he has been influenced by Atlas Shrugged and appreciates Ayn Rand’s case for human freedom and free markets

his Dave Brat for Congress page has the obligatory Reagan splash pic under "what we believe"

and it takes some digging & some weasel words to tease out his *dog whistle* Republican ongoing agenda. . .

Human life is sacred, as proclaimed by our founding documents, and I will always support laws that protect life.

Our fundamental rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness precede the existence of government and come from God, the Author of Nature.

ahhh, but further digging finds the pearl. . .

Dave will protect the rights of the unborn and the sanctity of marriage, and will oppose any governmental intrusion upon the conscience of people of faith.

his page bolds these words, lest anyone be skimming for the core beliefs. 

so, more of the same old.  good luck RepubTeam, rah rah.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:11 | 4844998 Dublinmick
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The church of satan leader Anton Levey loved him some Ann Rand Also.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:38 | 4845644 Blankenstein
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"folks come out of their closet"

 

Yes, funny how certain posters appear only on political articles and push an agenda.  

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:48 | 4845158 Grinder74
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That's not a great beard.  You should really shave your penis more often.  Good for hygiene.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:12 | 4845973 Seer
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Yep.  Perfect example of why I'm truly "independent."  Too many people dupe themselves into thinking that they're not being manipulated/motivated by group-think.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:53 | 4844583 Calmyourself
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And becasue we do not parrot the same nihilistic bullshit rhetoric as you, we don't think the Fed reserve system is a scam??  Get out of Moms basement Kid, we are adults we live in a nuanced world, we can believe large ideas without praying at the altar of your overblown rhetoric.  You, cole and the bearded idiot all need to grow up..

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:42 | 4844846 Cathartes Aura
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news flash:  one can age into adulthood

without compromising values held, and being co-opted into the systems that exploit humans, being.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:21 | 4845999 Seer
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"nihilism"

Sad to see that you resorted to such a cop-out.

How the fuck do you think things are going to end up?

It's a finite planet.  As resource scarcity weighs more heavily "laws" will mean shit.  Whether you want to hear this reality or not means nothing to the FACTS.  Pretending that we can "save" something that's unsustainable is myopic.  This has more to do with being a realist than an nhilist.  But by tossing out "nhilist" you look to dismiss the deeper discussion.

Oh, and "voting" means shit as far as TRUTH goes.  A truth doesn't cease to exist beause no one believes in it.  And, well, it's pretty clear that people are pretty good at believing lies...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:22 | 4844130 foodstampbarry
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@CH1 So you want to live in a world of complete anarchy? You have no idea what you're talking about. I've expereinced anarchy and total societal collapse first hand, in both Iraq and Afghanistan, while in the army. You're a child, who spouts nonsense.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:26 | 4844145 fonzannoon
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where did he say he wants to live in a world of complete anarchy?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:28 | 4844159 foodstampbarry
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CH1 The Law? Are you freeking kidding me? The LAW?

"The law" is printed up by corrupt politicians on a daily basis!

Then what else was he implying?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:31 | 4844168 CH1
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By me, anarchy (real anarchy) is cool. But if someone wants to try a republic, by all means they should be free do it... they just can't force anyone to join.

It's all about corecion. If you are forced to join a political system, that system is immoral.

I just want to be left alone.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:23 | 4844399 The_Dude
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You can't argue with logic like that....
Anarchy is good for us all!...7+ Billion people happily getting along in CH1co's little never-never land

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:37 | 4844470 CH1
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You can't argue with logic like that.... Anarchy is good for us all...

LOL... So, you think one group of people must be authorized to rob and punish everyone else?

Helluva plan... helluva a bloody, murderous, barbaric superstition.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:40 | 4846057 Seer
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There's "anarchy" and then there's "anarchism."

The "laws" will eventually collapse.  Happens in all collapses, which is what history shows happens to ALL empires.

Anyone who cares to step past all the propaganda (pushed by the State) and to investigate anarchism will find this a good place to start:

http://www.spunk.org/texts/intro/practice/sp001689.html

Be sure to focus on the section headed "ANARCHISM, NOT ANARCHISTS."

Otherwise stick head back in the sand.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 09:28 | 4844153 CH1
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I've expereinced anarchy and total societal collapse first hand, in both Iraq and Afghanistan

LOL.... I was in the sandbox too, youngster!

Lemme give you a hint: If you can see uniforms, it isn't anarchy. (Get it?)

Read up a little on Voluntaryism... and learn.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 10:47 | 4844534 The_Dude
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CH1co...which side were you fighting for?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 11:09 | 4844674 CH1
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which side were you fighting for?

Translation: If you don't agree with me, you're a fucking terrorist! Die!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:04 | 4844931 The_Dude
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Nope...I just think that anyone that advocates anarchy has misguided, ulterior motives and should be called out instead of praised for being 'anti-establishment'.  There is a difference and your logic is dangerous.

 

Most people I see advocating anarchy are socialist/communist in disguise or minority groups that hope to see the power structure in this country fall so the brown unwashed hordes can claim their 'right' and push those evil euro invaders into their grave.  So CH1co, what is your agenda?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:44 | 4845420 CH1
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So, I'm a commie? Wow... and you're basing that upon all the collectivist things I say?

My agenda is to expose corecion and immorality. What's yours?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:49 | 4845888 The_Dude
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Expose coercion and immorality by promoting anarchy....

Hmmm, I don't think you get from the first to the second unless you have a giant lack of judgement or again an ulterior motive.   Confronting the corruption of a system and implementing change is one thing.  Promoting the downfall of an entire system into chaos/death/destruction is another.  If you have decided anarchy is the way to go, it is more than the financial/political that you are trying to usurp. (see previous)

My agenda would be to take us back toward a constitutional republic and Classical Liberalism (not Social Liberalism).....I am pretty sure that is miles away from the anarchy you espouse.

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