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FBI Opens Criminal Probe Into Phoenix VA Scandal

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Just when the administration thought they had thrown enough people under the bus and the news cycle had moved on to Bergdahl (how did that work out?), WSJ reports:

  • FBI OPENS CRIMINAL PROBE OF VA SCANDAL

FBI Director James Corney says that the Phoenix office of the FBI has opened a criminal investigation into the VA scandal, adding that "We're working with the VA IG and we'll follow it wherever the facts take us." We are yet to hear what the over/under on 'pleading da fifs', but we suspect it will be high.

 

As WSJ reports,

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has opened a criminal investigation into allegedly misleading scheduling practices at the Department of Veterans Affairs that may have concealed how long veterans had to wait for appointments to see a doctor.

 

"Our Phoenix office has opened a criminal investigation,'' FBI Director James Comey said in response to a lawmaker's question at a hearing Wednesday before the House Judiciary Committee.

 

Previously, officials had acknowledged the Justice Department is reviewing documents provided by the VA inspector general to see if any potential crimes were committed. The opening of a criminal probe takes that work a step further.

 

"We're working with the VA IG and we'll follow it wherever the facts take us,'' Mr. Comey said.

 

 

 

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Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:01 | 4845213 knukles
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Hah ha ha ha ha ha ha
Don't Holder Breath

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:02 | 4845224 Relentless101
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Bingo. It's a sham. Now they can say they "really tried." Lick my ass you slimy fucks. I see right through your bullshit.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:06 | 4845238 Troll Magnet
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They'll get to it as soon as they find out what really happened to Michael Hastings.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:20 | 4845296 maskone909
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fbi probe?  cmon now, you cant expect any real justice here.  another sideshow for the cameras imho

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:26 | 4845326 DoChenRollingBearing
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Greens to all, whee!!!  Holder and Obama will ensure nothing touches them.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:29 | 4845337 StacksOnStacks
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Someone's getting Gaddafi'd!

 

ps.  It's us.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:37 | 4845382 CH1
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Look out mid-level bureaucrats, the FBI is gonna take one of you down!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:42 | 4845397 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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I don't understand why this VA "scandal" is such a fucking surprise to everyone... The USSA has been fucking veterans since WWI.

Also, the VA hospitals have been notorious for mis-care for decades... yet the fucking idiots think Obamacare run hospitals are going to be any better?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:42 | 4845409 Boris Alatovkrap
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Speaking of pig adorning makeup, what is news of Hillary Clinton run for president?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:47 | 4845434 Buckaroo Banzai
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She has her face buried in Huma Abedin's muslim muff, but will get back to you after she has a chance to brush her teeth.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:38 | 4845391 drendebe10
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... Phoenix VA hospital quality health care coming to your neighborhood soon courtesy obamascare....

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:27 | 4845601 rubiconsolutions
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I think their electronic health record and scheduling system was developed in Business Basic and runs on DOS 3.0 8086 machines. "Excuse me sir, I need to requisition another 64Kb memory module".

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:23 | 4845588 SAT 800
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Damn. comment of the day, hands down. Yeah, boy, I jest caint wate fer them federals to 'vestigate everthang. Bethca thell get ta tha bottum of her, all-righty.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:26 | 4845599 SDShack
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John Corzine is the lead investigator.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:05 | 4845235 LawsofPhysics
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"Probes" and "inquiries", blah, blah, blah...

show me the convictions motherfucker.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:11 | 4845266 ShorTed
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Right on Laws...+10

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:13 | 4845273 Relentless101
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I second.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4845712 Pure Evil
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I turd.......I mean third!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:47 | 4845436 Buckaroo Banzai
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Show me the convictions? OK, but how about simply FIXING THE FUCKING PROBLEMS.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:05 | 4845513 LawsofPhysics
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A major problem has been that bad behavior is rewarded in 'merica.  Therefore, putting the fuckers in prison does provide a significant fix.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:19 | 4845716 Pure Evil
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What do you mean fix it.

Those fuckers should have had enough sense to die on the battlefield instead of coming back to the states to get the Obama shit shaft.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:05 | 4845236 Last of the Mid...
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Another case of nobody knows nothing and people died. Children are massing on our southern border and here we go again. Someones gonna get hurt to protect a political agenda and in the end no one will know anything. Gotta love it.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:34 | 4845332 DoChenRollingBearing
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Just more D-Team voters.  Easy-peasy figuring that one out.

<--- Thanks for dropping into ZH (w/ a red), Jay Carney!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:11 | 4845261 wmbz
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The VA administration has been run by a den of selfserving theives for decades. The Obozo admin. does'nt give a shit, just using it as a smoke screen.

Gubmint "health care"at it's VERY BEST!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:11 | 4845263 Dr. Engali
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"Previously, officials had acknowledged the Justice Department is reviewing documents provided by the VA inspector general to see if any potential crimes were committed."

Translation: Holder wanted to make sure he could insulate the Obama administration from any legal damages.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:13 | 4845268 apberusdisvet
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At the very least, the one's that cooked the books,  leading to numerous deaths, should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:14 | 4845276 Winston Churchill
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They will plead the fifth,and retire on a full pension.

Want a bet on it ?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:29 | 4845342 DoChenRollingBearing
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My finger grows tired from upvoting every single post above (at least so far).

ZIPPO happens to ANYONE higher up in the O-Admin.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:15 | 4845277 Postal
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"But it wasn't my fault that the books were cooked! That was just 'procedure'. And now I plead the fifth."

Long ball-gags.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:16 | 4845282 Grande Tetons
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You are a kinder man that I am. 

Unfortunately, a slap on the wrist with a feather is likely in the works. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:19 | 4845293 planet psyop
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the facts should take you to smedley butler's meat grinder , banker war scam warning from 80 years ago !

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4845318 CheapBastard
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Shitty VA hopitals with roaches, etc have been reported so many time sin the past and zero was done about it. Glad to see there is a possibility of cleaning those places up. Start by replacing most of the administrators with outside people. Gubmint union or no union fire them. Say it's in the name of national security.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:05 | 4845741 Pure Evil
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Dismantle the VA medical system completely. The government couldn't run an ass wiping farm if they had to.

Provide veterans with vouchers to see providers in their hometowns such as doctors and hospitals.

For those that need more advanced care allow veterans to travel where needed.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:24 | 4845324 Colonel Klink
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The buck stops ANYWHERE but Obama.  Most corrupt coward in chief in US history.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:31 | 4845355 DoChenRollingBearing
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Worth repeating 17,000,000,000,000 times (at least).

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:45 | 4845423 drendebe10
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.....standing round of ovation for another great job by the corrupt arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien sociopathic liar in chief.... as long as its celebrity grand imperial golf life style at the expense of hard working US citizen tax payers isn't affected, WTF does the liar in chief care...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:51 | 4845447 Colonel Klink
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Don't expect him to realize it until he reads it in the news.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:29 | 4845610 SAT 800
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Not so sure about the history part. Nixon remains a serious contender for corruption prize; and Clinton.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4845338 orangegeek
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it places the Barry into the jail cell

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:30 | 4845352 Atticus Finch
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FBI. Short for Forget 'Bout It.

Another smoke and mirrors farce pretending that any justice still exists in the US. I wonder when this will all be pushed under the rug and forgotten about.

How long is that news cycle anyway?

Does anyone still believe that any major crime in the US will be prosecuted?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:30 | 4845353 NoWayJose
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What is more likely to happen, would be that the VA-model of government health care will be exposed.  Too many patients for the available resources, and the ability of the patients to access health care as many times as they want at little or no cost.  Kind of like the ObamaCare model...  Or the HillaryCare model....  And all of this on top of a personnel system that makes it difficult or impossible to create efficiencies within the government run hospitals.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:49 | 4845443 drendebe10
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.....yassir.... like he said, Phoenix VA bureaucratic health care coming to your neighborhood soon courtesy obamascare....  and the sheeple are oblivious to that....  if you're young and healthy no worries but if you have significant health problems or elderly, move to Panama.... 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:08 | 4845755 Pure Evil
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Or at least Mexico.

They dump their poor and ignorant within our borders and we ship the old, indigent and in poor health to their country.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:41 | 4845406 kchrisc
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Corzine is hiding out at the Phoenix VA?!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:47 | 4845433 MFL8240
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The Federal Bureau of Investigation has opened a criminal investigation into allegedly misleading scheduling practices at the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Should have started in White House!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:57 | 4845469 WTF_247
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Don't hear much about why the scandal occurred in the first place.

Think about it - it is highly doubtful that across the entire VA system, many, many independent managers of facilities across the US all decided to do the exact same scheduling bullshit, entice others to cover it up ON THEIR OWN, without coordination or guidance.

The IRS scandal was the same - highly unlikely that low level people would all collude together for some larger goal without help and guidance from those above them and in other areas of govt.  At least in the IRS there was no personal benefit either.

It is my opinion that both events were triggered by elections and completely driven by those in power in the Fed govt.  The ACA would have had massive public backlash if the facts surrounding VA disaster had been known - the Fed govt would never have been allowed to take such power.  Instead, the VA was used politically as an example of how finely run govt healthcare is vs private.

Did such stuff go on earlier than 2009-10? Likely.  However, it seemed to go into over drive in the last few years - mainly to justify political moves to take over healthcare.

The over-riding goal for both VA and IRS was to win elections.  Cover up shoddy/fraudulent work with made up statistics for votes.  Quash all dissenting opinions from the only grass roots groups to challenge the status-quo by putting the fear of God in them with the IRS - again to ensure the outcome of elections.

It is very, very unlikely that either of these two events could occur without some guiding hand from those in power in the Fed govt.  While those in the VA scandal did benefit personally from increased bonuses, the fact that the same actions (and coverups) spread across multiple, disperate facilities in the US tells me that it was coordinated by someone.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:59 | 4845478 Bawneee Fwank
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LOL...The only probing being done is of Reggie sticking his shit stick in Obama

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:02 | 4845490 Kprime
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these are not the drones you're looking for

 

nothing to see here

 

move along

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:14 | 4845554 Kprime
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Phoenix VA

Phoenix University

Phoenix (north mexico)

Phoenix Militia/police

 

lotta scamming goin on in phoenix

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:17 | 4845567 p00k1e
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Bush fixed the VA after news cameras showed plaster falling into patients.

How did it get screwed up again so quickly? 
 
Btw...   This article is empirical evidence illustrating nobody cares about veterans (if people cared, we wouldn’t be reading this article).

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:21 | 4845580 Tom Terrific
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Oh for fucks sake.  I can tell you pretty much exactly what happened.  The vets and public raised a shit storm because there was a damn waiting list that was long.  Then the congress/gov responded by mandating that vets had to be seen within some stupidly short time frame (e.g. consults have to be seen/responded to within 2wks, vets who are OIF, OEF have to be seen almost immediately especially if its for mental health).  The VA has been on a hiring freeze for years and the number of doctors, etc are growing less all the time.  Plus the pay is shit compared to any place else.  So what does the fucking VA administration do?  They make up false reports about how long the actual waiting list is instead of telling it like it is which would probably get them fired.  They are essentially lying about what the real state of affairs is.  There are waiting lists everywhere you fucking go.  Kaiser can be months for some stupid scan.

 

Now, what does chasing this story do by keeping it in the media?  Divert your attention from more important issues, that's what.  The fucking FBI should go after any number of outright criminals in government since 99% of them are, but no, they have time to go after the lying VA.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:34 | 4845632 silentboom
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What it does is hopefully illustrate to the mindless masses what they will soon be getting under a nationalized healthcare system maybe?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:24 | 4845592 alexcojones
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So I called the Phoenix VA. I'm a veteran and I spoke to a real person, Ann. I asked to schedule an appointment. She said it would be 3-4 months. 

But I betcha those guys in Mosul will get their benefits way sooner.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:17 | 4845793 Pure Evil
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Vets should have been able to see any doctor or hospital they wanted and had the bill sent to .gov to be paid like Mediscare.

Now that we have Obamascare soon to be Single Payer No Medical Care For You the mundanes will now get a taste of what veterans have been facing for decades. At least since the Vietnam War and probably going as far back as the Korean War.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:16 | 4845784 navy62802
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I know a few FBI agents. They are all reservists in either the army or navy. I presume the FBI has a pretty healthy population of DOD reservists throughout its ranks which doesn't bode well for the VA in the context of an investigation like this.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:44 | 4846071 prymythirdeye
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What a load of horseshit...NOTHING is going to come out of this FBI "investigation."

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 16:53 | 4846104 TruthDecalscom
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ScandalClipse; when the stream of SCANDALS are exposed so frequently that they ECLIPSE each other before they can be fully prosecuted...

Thanks Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama, we wouldn't have this word without you… www.TruthDecals.com

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 17:55 | 4846319 esum
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FBI investigation = obama/holder doublespeak for DELAY and C O V E R U P 

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 17:57 | 4846322 esum
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ILLEGALS have PRIORITY OVER VETS in obamaworld.... and Congress sits IDLE

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 18:00 | 4846328 esum
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hey remember the FBI took the Solyndra records...... what's the status on that crony kcikback scheme??????

$1.6 billion for aid when Morsi (MuslimBrotherhood) was in charge in Egypt..... $0 for VETS..... 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 19:08 | 4846422 prymythirdeye
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The FBI is a JOKE...a fucking joke...and every person that works for them is a sellout, period...every single one of you

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