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Mapping Al Qaeda's Grand Ambitions In Iraq And Syria

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As reported earlier, and as most know by now, as if out of nowhere the al-Qaeda faction Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) has, over the past 24 hours, stormed across northern Iraq, taken over key northern cities and even taken control over countless modern US weapons and military equipment including Humvees and Blackhawk helicopters. As we further reported, after looting nearly half a billion from the Mosul central bank, ISIS is also the "world's richest terror force." So weapons? Check. Money? Check.

What happens now?

Well, first, courtesy of the NYT, here is a map of all the territories that ISIS has already managed to gain control over.

And next?

This map, from the Institute for the Study of War explains clearly what ISIS' ambitions in the middle east are: creating a grand nation-state that basically controls virtually all of Syria and most of Iraq (including an unknown amount of petroleum deposits and refineries, for those wondering why crude is higher today).

 

Want to know more? Then the following presentation "The Fall Of Mosul To The Islamic State of Iraq And Al-Shram" should hopefully hold some answers.

 

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Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:05 | 4844968 Soul Glow
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Al - CIA(duh!) working both sides of the "war" a la Rotheschilde bankers during the Nepoleonic Wars.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:06 | 4844972 StacksOnStacks
Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:18 | 4845033 BigJim
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So -  these supposed Jew-hating Islamists appear to have absolutely no intention of taking back Palestine, huh? Interesting.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:24 | 4845057 SheepDog-One
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What's in 'Palestine' anyway, a few fig trees? I guess we've moved past the 'mid east Israel/Palestine' stuff, no one cares anymore.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:27 | 4845074 BigJim
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Only the third most holy place in Muslim theology, Jerusalem... and only the biggest 'hot-button' anti-Western grievance for the average Muslim, the stealing of the Palestinians' land by the Zionists. That's all.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:28 | 4845077 BigJim
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Meanwhile... I wonder what Shiite Iran think of all this sudden Sunni dominance in their backyard?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:41 | 4845130 john39
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just another battle in WWIII unfolding.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:53 | 4845179 SafelyGraze
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"Al Qaeda's Grand Ambitions In Iraq And Syria"

define, if you please, the first term in the phrase

take all the time that you need

and document your sources

hugs,
your 5th grade teacher 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:43 | 4845414 dontgoforit
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Saudis soon to be having a shit fit.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:06 | 4845520 BigJim
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I know I keep banging on about it... but this is all part of Oded Yinon's vision for the Middle East. If you're not familiar with it, research it, and pass it on.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:39 | 4845643 cifo
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Re-creating the Ottoman Empire. Soon to encompass parts of Europe too.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:58 | 4845715 COSMOS
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I hear the next most holiest site in Islam will be built on top of Stonehenge and they will claim it by proliferating faster than the locals.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 18:09 | 4846348 Sirius Wonderblast
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About right.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:58 | 4845471 SDShack
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Why do you think Iran is building the bomb?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:04 | 4845504 BigJim
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They certainly should be, but all the serious Western intelligence agencies - and Mossad (quietly) admit they're not.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:29 | 4845612 Jack Burton
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USA backs Sunni against Shiite. Generally speaking as a way to get back at Iran.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:48 | 4845154 Chewybunny
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Why should they? Their interests are to take the Shia regions, impose Sharia law, and turn them Sunni. The country most to lose if this happens is Saudi Arabia and Jordan. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:11 | 4845265 scraping_by
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Actually, Saudi Arabia's the county with the most to gain. While the MSM depicts them as independant actors, AQ is directly controlled by the Saudi Secret Service. Even if you rebrand them ISIS, same bunch with the same agenda.

Putting the whole ME under Saudi control is the goal, not an accident. Jordan's too westernized, so will be a victim, not a perp. And the US government, hot to destroy American civil liberties and keep oil prices up, is playing along as the doofus beat cop.

http://hnn.us/article/7378

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:39 | 4845392 sushi
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These ISIS dudes practice a fairly extreme form of religion. If you live your life in a fly bitten desert and are willing to fight to the death to impose your religious beliefs then I think the Saudi aristocracy may look like a bunch of effeminate pussies and wimps. Why accept their handouts when you can go direct to the source and take it all?

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:58 | 4845472 scraping_by
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Really no more extreme than daily life in Saudi Arabia. And the Gulf States, though they're just clients and wannabes.

Even if the princes of Saud are widely seen as greedy pooftahs, and they are, doesn't mean they can't organize hard men to do awful things. Money is the universal tool.

The foot soldiers won't come home to a GI Bill or Frank Capra movies. More likely a hole in the desert. But until they figure that one out, they'll keep eating livers and topping local officials.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4844987 john39
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the banker hoardes are losing the insurgent invasion of Syria.  Assad is winning, and now has the support of the vast majority of the Syrian people.  Given the defeat, there have been for weeks rumors of an impending invasion planned to try and restoke the war.  I think we are obviously seeing the plan in action.   I also found it interesting this morning to see that the so called Syrian rebels congratulated the newly elected Israeli president.  that just doesn't jive for any real islamic movement:

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/President-elect-Rivlin-gets-letter-of-c...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:19 | 4845042 maskone909
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funny stuff man!  this is exactly what folks warned about when we armed the syrian anti assad terrorists. 

the bad guys will take the weapons we sent them and go on a path of destruction across the middle east.  well, this is pretty much the worst case scenario.  the credibility of the establishment is shrinking fast.  all else fails, invade iran/ukraine,syria.  god help us

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:39 | 4845109 Payne
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The weapons have limited value without strategy and training to carry out command orders.  So who is in command of Strategy and training ?  Does not sound like CIA or Russian influence !  Smells like Mossad

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:47 | 4845140 ParkAveFlasher
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Why wouldn't Putin benefit?  It's one more layer of armed, insurgent, independent, unified, resource-ursuping chaos on his southern flank.  It's kind of like what Texas is for the USA.  I mean that as a compliment.  All Putin would have to do is teach these guys how not to blow off their own asses, and then step back and let hunger, poverty, money, and religion do the rest.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:04 | 4845220 DoChenRollingBearing
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We could learn the same.  We should just stay out of Middle Eastern monkey-business.  It´s THEIR playground, THEIR religion(s), THEIR mentalities.

We would survive if Muslim radicals kill each other off by us doing nothing.

Stay out!  Just pay the winners our money for their oil.  The USA is NOT the policeman of the world, and I am TIRED of playing (and paying) as if we were.  We cannot afford it anyway, not even close.  The world is too big, and we should just look after ourselves.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:20 | 4845297 scraping_by
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At present, TPTB aren't serious about ending the fighting. If they were, they'd end the House of Saud and the Wahabbi tribe (and maybe neutralize Mossad adventurism), ending the main directors and supporters of this anarchy. But it suits them fine, even if they have to spend American lives and treasure to keep it going.

Most Americans want the Biblical state of "But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid:" But, too much to gain from a War Against Peace.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:31 | 4845356 sushi
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They may not be serious about ending the fighting but they are becoming concerned:

 

Even Z. Brzezinski, not known for his sympathies toward Russia, states that the threat of an explosion in the Middle East, and in Syria in particular, means that the U.S. needs to work closely with Russia and China “to some extent more than...[with] Britain or France”. And cold war paladin Brzezinski knows what he's talking about here.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2013/december/13/sinister-fruits-of-the-wests-alliance-with-jihad-warriors-in-syria.aspx

So the USSA attempts to surround and wall off China. While at the same time supporting a fascist junta in Ukraine so as to totally piss off the Russians. And at the same time stands by as ISIS proceeds to shred Iraq (which renders all the sacrifice of life and treasure in that dirt lump totally moot). 

And this is called a "foreign policy strategy?"

Seems pretty foreign to me.

 

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 17:04 | 4846164 BigJim
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I suspect a lot of the left hands don't really know what all the right hands are doing at this point.

Once an empire gets to a certain size, it starts sub-dividing into mini-empires, all ostensibly in allegiance but all inching towards self-aggrandising goals that may not sync very well with the others'.

Add on top of this the need to keep up a propaganda layer to obscure the real motives, and multiple layers of secrecy, and it all starts getting a bit messy.

Israel wants Oded Yinon's vision of a Middle East of weak Arab statelets. the US wants control of Eurasia (and everywhere else) and containment of Russia and China... to keep the unpopular Saudi royals in power so they're dependent on US military might to keep their position, and to control the Wahhabist lunatics of Al-Qaeda that the CIA doesn't already control... that's a lot of plates to keep spinning, along with having to keep the voters in the West stupified and in the dark.

Give 'em a break! It ain't easy being a sociopathic Hegemon.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:52 | 4845170 Chewybunny
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Seems to me you're vastly underestimating the leadership skill that can come out of insurgent groups. Iran stands to gain most by having a neighboring Sunni Islamic State on it's Western borders. If anyone should be fueling ISIS It'd be in their best interest if it was Iran. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:08 | 4845243 DoChenRollingBearing
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In the short-term yes.  But, Sunnis and Shias have hated each other for centuries.  I doubt that Iran (longer-term) would like a bunch of radical Sunnis, maybe STRONG radical Sunnis on their border.

There are some Sunnis in Iran too, no?  Hmm...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:13 | 4845274 aardwolf
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This is a blatant lie. Are you Mossad?

 

Iran and its Persian people haven't invaded another country for centuries and are Shia Muslim. So they would not be very happy about a raving band of Sunni lunatics just across the border.

 

If this is the level of American world knowledge then we are indeed totally fucked!?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4845316 scraping_by
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It might be a slogan among the Serious People justifying continued anarchy among the Sunni. Anarchy until a Strong Man (the Sahif of Mecca, perhaps?) steps in and saves the day.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 17:15 | 4846210 BeansMcGreens
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I guess people have forgotten that guy with the name Sadr. Seems like he was able to hold his own with the world's biggest army at one time.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:32 | 4845622 I Write Code
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Well, but Iran is governed by Shia who officially hate the Sunni, OTOH Saudi Arabia is Sunni so maybe support this?  But even the Kurds are nominally Sunni already.  There really is no sorting this out, and none of it favors the US.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:23 | 4845053 Global Hunter
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the article you linked to is short but says a lot.  Fuck me right out in the open.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:45 | 4845141 roadhazard
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Any port in a storm.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:53 | 4845176 thamnosma
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Assad winning?  Civilian life in Syria must be dead for all practical reasons.  The government has its sector, ISIS and whoever else have theirs.  The lines don't seem to have moved much.  Homs and Aleppo are pretty much destroyed from what reports I've seen.  Just a lot of suffering, disease, hunger, displaced civilians, and constant violence.  Can you really see Syria being put back together the way it was before the destabliziation occurred?  Or Libya?  Or Iraq? 

The only winners are those who desired this outcome.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:46 | 4845428 scraping_by
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Assad is not an African-style strong man. He's a member of the Ba'athist party, who have an overall ideology of secularism, socialism, and self-rule. In other words, he's got a program a lot of people can get behind.

The anarchy of the liver-eaters of AQ just creates the conditions for outside control. While his party has ruthless enemies, he's got real resources among the people. The odds are not entirely against.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 15:01 | 4845726 thamnosma
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Absolutely Assad has significant support, especially in the south.  The area around Turkey, c'mon, that's gone.  No, the Syrian government will not be deposed by these "insurgents", but neither will the government take full control within its former borders.  Meanwhile, the place is being taken apart, economically ruined.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:17 | 4845248 Squid Viscous
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the zionists really got Obozo in quite a pickle - screaming for Assad's head but then oops the "good guys" are actually really, really "bad guys" and the same that are taking over northern Iraq... just goes to show if you don't put your own country first, as we haven't been able to for decades thanks to AIPAC, and targeted campaign $ etc., you end up in some "interesting" situations

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:37 | 4845113 alexcojones
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To All the Fine Young Cannibals at NSA, to ALL you young Winston Smiths privileged enough to read ZH every day-

Ask yourself: Is the POTUS a complete Incompetent, or a puppet, or a traitor?

I'm sureYOU guys at NSA discuss this all the time over coffee, maybe with your Pentagon pals.

What is Barry O, and What Exactly is his Mission?

AC not PC

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:55 | 4845185 thamnosma
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Can he be all three of those things?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:28 | 4845323 aardwolf
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HI MOSSAD AND NSA BOTS!!?

I UNDERSTAND THE ZIONISTS USING THE CIA TO KILL 3000 AMERICANS IN 2001 TO FORCE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO KILL THEIR ARAB ENEMIES ON ISRAELI BORDERS. THE ZIONISTS HAVE A BIG CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER, ARE INBRED FOR INTELLECT AND ARE DEADLY OPPONENTS...SO THEY SCREWED OVER THE GERMANS A BIT TOO HARD AND THEY SLAUGHTERED ZIONISTS IN THE 1940'S...I CAN UNDERSTAND THEIR NEED FOR REVENGE ON THE WORLD THAT LET IT HAPPEN.

HOWEVER, YOU AMERICAN NSA AND CIA TRAITORS?? WHY DO YOU TAKE ORDERS FROM MOSSAD?

WHY? IS IT JUST FOR MONEY? WHY DO YOU CIA GUYS MURDER YOUR OWN CITIZENS IN FALSE FLAGS FOR THE ZIONISTS? WHY COLLABORATE WITH THEIR EVIL SCHEMES? JUST FOR THE MONEY? REALLY?

 

DOES NO-ONE IN THE CIA OR NSA OR THE PENTAGON HAVE ANY PATRIOTISM? I KNOW YOUR ZIONIST THINK TANKS AND LEADERS HAVE CONVINCED YOU THAT YOU MUST MAINTAIN THE PETRODOLLAR FOR YOUR SECURITY...BUT YOU DON'T!!!

 

COME ON CIA GUYS? IF THE US RELINKED THE DOLLAR TO GOLD THERE WOULD BE PAIN FOR SOME BANKERS BUT WITHIN A DECADE THE US WOULD BE THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH AGAIN!!!

DON'T LET THE ZIONISTS USE YOU CIA AND NSA GUYS COME ON!!! LET THEM HAVE THEIR TORTURE CAMPS IN PALESTINE. THEY'LL BE FINE THEY HAVE NUKES ETC. THEY DON'T NEED YOU OTHER THAN AS A TAX FARM AND CANNON FODDER. PLEASE WAKE UP CIA AND NSA AND MI6 ANALYSTS...PLEASE HOW MANY MORE 9/11 7/7 SANDY HOAX MURDERS WILL YOU ALLOW ON YOUR BROTHERS WITHOUT STANDING UP TO THE ZIONISTS BEHIND THE CURTAIN?

IF YOU DON'T STOP THEM THEY WILL PUSH TOO FAR AGAIN AND SOME IDIOT LIKE HITLER WILL RISE UP WITH ANOTHER FINAL SOLUTION. STOP THEM TO SAVE THEM PLEASE!!!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:39 | 4845122 Freddie
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Yup - the NWO gang and the State Dept.  I wonder if McCain/Graham-nesty/Schumer are giving them a pep talk.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:12 | 4845269 MeMongo
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Alqooda loosely translates to "the toilet"! Who would name their group that?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:06 | 4844973 COSMOS
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They won't stop untill they recreate the last Caliphate

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:09 | 4844992 john39
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perhaps, but the islamic nature of this group is just a front.  these are mercs... either paid or useful idiots.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:15 | 4845016 tempo
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2 of largest 5 oil fields in the world holding billions barrels of oil are located in Iraq.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4845022 McMolotov
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Who cares? The US is on the verge of energy independence.

/sarc

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:19 | 4845040 Relentless101
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LOL. Energery independence feels so good. I absolutely cannot wait to pay $10 a gallon. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:29 | 4845080 BigJim
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Yes, the average person will be independent of energy, in the sense of being completely separate from it.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:48 | 4845676 Urban Redneck
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In order to replace the 18+ million barrels of oil per day they consume, 317 million American land whales would EACH have to burn almost half a pound of fat per day, every day, until they died and reduced demand, or an oil replacement was found.

Simply not sustainable.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:18 | 4845034 desirdavenir
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but conveniently outside of the black part of the map. Random ? 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:49 | 4845161 tempo
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So there is no risk?? Who will go to war to defend the fields?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:05 | 4845234 Lost My Shorts
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Yes, you gotta think -- if they just made off with $400 million in cash, not much more needs to be said about their motives.  There is an element of old fashioned plunder, like land-Vikings.

On the other hand, it matters that they are Sunni in countries where Shia control the capitals and monopolize the skim.  Sectarian loyalties do matter in that region.  Iraq was never a viable state post-Saddam.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:13 | 4845009 Cocomaan
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Who really cares if they do, though? If they want a new Ottoman Empire, let them fight over it.

I really don't see much of a difference between a religious caliphate and a massive Chinese communist community in East Asia, or a thuggish Russia next to it.

One coercive system or another, it's the responsibility of the common person to resist coercion.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:20 | 4845045 BigJim
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Pretty hard for the common person to do when the coercers are being give assistance by the entire 'Free' world - ie, you and me, courtesy of 'our' governments.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:40 | 4845125 Freddie
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Who? Langley or Foggy Bottom?  Same thing really.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:10 | 4845256 Squid Viscous
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COSMOS, you really need to take a break from The Weekly Standard, lol clown

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:07 | 4844980 Itchy and Scratchy
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Dreams of the Kenyan Nobel Peace Prize winner!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:13 | 4845010 Relentless101
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America! Fuck ya! We're here to save the mutha fuckin day now!

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:21 | 4845048 maskone909
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freedom costs a buck-o-five

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:07 | 4844982 LetThemEatRand
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The IMF reminds me of that guy in CA leaving bags of money around for people to "find."  Of course, it was just poor planning that a half bill was left sitting around in a bank in a poorly guarded city.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:34 | 4845099 what's that smell
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i hope somebody bought the terrorists a copy of powerpoint so they know what their battle plans are.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:08 | 4844986 fauxhammer
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They've ALWAYS been "the world's richest terror force"

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:12 | 4845000 Cocomaan
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Let's be careful calling it al-Qaeda. The links between ISIS and al-Qaeda don't look that strong, and let's be honest, the "evidence" is all classified anyway.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:17 | 4845025 LetThemEatRand
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Haven't you gotten the memo?  All Islamic people who don't like Western occupation of their countries is al-Qaeda.  Duh.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:03 | 4845499 scraping_by
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Look at the variety of circumlocutions practiced in the MSM. Linked, allied, etc. Close as the corporate media's ever going to come to blantantly saying they're the same bunch.

Long stories about gynecology and photos of nipples don't mean they've broken all the boundaries.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4845019 SheepDog-One
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Seems to me it's getting very near time for the banksters to pull the rug out again.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4845020 youngman
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I think if you ask them..they want the world in total.....

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:16 | 4845026 desirdavenir
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I feel a bit sad for them : they don't want to invade oil-rich irakian kurdistan nor shiites and (again oil-rich) southern Irak. How will they be able to survive without oil revenues ?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:17 | 4845027 ChargingHandle
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Obama is on it folks. His leadership and international policy prowess will save the day. He will teleprompter them to lay down their weapons. 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:52 | 4845175 yogibear
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He'll laugh them to death.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:04 | 4845506 SDShack
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0zer0 won't respond until he sees a report of it on CNN. Then he is outraged, and sets up a commission to investigate what his administration is doing.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:19 | 4845037 Global Hunter
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Well the good news is that we are winning the war on terror.  The bad news is that most of us didn't realize that this was the desired outcome.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:27 | 4845073 alexcojones
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12 MORE Years as a Slave.

Mission O-ccomplished, Barry

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:31 | 4845085 Incubus
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nice username,

 

I tip my hat to you, sir.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:32 | 4845091 Bunga Bunga
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I thought the rebel fighters in Syria were friends of Washington?

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:08 | 4845531 scraping_by
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Just clients. The US Special Forces are teaching them how to boil Fava beans and select a nice Chianti.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:32 | 4845093 SoDamnMad
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Damn  Putin has sure been busy. He is going to take Saudi Arabia next week and then move down through the Emerites the week after. Ain't gonna be no gas for anyone but his "friends". I'm seeing a cold winter for Europe.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:37 | 4845110 Bastiat
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Bush/Cheney/Rummy said Al Qaeda was in Iraq: now after $1 trillion spent and 100s of thousands of deaths and maimings, it's finally true.  Nice work.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:44 | 4845136 Peter K
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Actually, and for the record, Bush/Cheney/Rummy had the damned place pacified.

But not that it really matters.... ;)

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:47 | 4845149 Bastiat
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It was better off before we went in.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:47 | 4845435 Peter K
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Yes it was better off before we went in.

But if you just have to go in, you don't let the place go to hell in a hand basket after you pull out.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:56 | 4845193 corporatewhore
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How do you define "pacified"? 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:49 | 4845159 Herdee
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I'm still trying to determine what purpose was served in the spending of trillions of dollars of U.S. taxpayers money in Iraq.Just wasted on getting rid of Saddam?Kind of doubt it.How many good American soldiers died there for a cause and then have their own corrupt Government then screw them through the VA when they returned.Then screw them over again by letting these religious fanatics take over in Iraq and Syria.These thugs are still being supported by Saudi Arabia and I have no doubt that increased opium production under the watchful eye of the CIA in Afghanistan has also helped in the funding and created a living hell for people over there.Very sick what the U.S. Government and their allies are doing.And very disturbing what the U.S. Government does to its' own Armed Forces and how they are used in total corruption.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:57 | 4845470 Oldrepublic
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answer from counterpunch

 

Iraq: the Biggest Petroleum Heist in History?

www.counterpunch.org/ 2014/ 05/ 23/ iraq-the-biggest-petroleum-heist-in-histor

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:53 | 4845178 tuttisaluti
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Wait until they have pakistan, then they have also nuclear warheads.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 12:58 | 4845199 thamnosma
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Along with sophisticated missile delivery systems, at least a 2,000 km or more.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:08 | 4845521 SDShack
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Don't worry. Iran will be the counterweight to all that with MAD. What could go wrong?

edit... oh and don't forget India. They have always been peaceful towards Pokestawn.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:20 | 4845295 Last of the Mid...
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CIA is busy at the moment. They're dropping come to America pamphlets from C130's all over central america. Leave a message they'll get back with ya.

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:23 | 4845317 LostandFound
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According to RT news, peace talks are due between the government and the rebels this week in Syria to end the war?? 

Hmmmm

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:24 | 4845321 kito
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as if out of nowhere the al-Qaeda faction Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) has, over the past 24 hours, stormed across northern Iraq, taken over key northern cities and even taken control over countless modern US weapons and military equipment including Humvees and Blackhawk helicopters.

 

im just glad our extensive surveillance system worked effectively enough to pick up on this sudden surge in ISIS and their subsequent blitz into iraq. thankfully our global blanketing of all communications paid off in apprising the iraqis of this well ahead of time.........

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:32 | 4845358 q99x2
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That's a CIA plot to exthort even more money. Think how much money they are making on the replacement helicopters alone.

Why is China hiring all the CIA on TV that's what I want to know.

Bunch of garsh darn scumbuckets over there in Washington D.C. that's what we got.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:32 | 4845360 NoWayJose
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Might be time to start giving aid to Assad so he can fight the terrorists in Syria...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:40 | 4845404 NoWayJose
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Those with the guns make the rules - whether Albuquerque police officers, Boko Haram in Nigeria, or al Qaeda/ISIS in Syria or Iraq.  It's getting pretty obvious why the Feds are equipping the local cops...

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 13:59 | 4845481 Lynn Trainor
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Isn't it true that we just sold 36 F-16's to Iraq?  President Obama and this Congress have made bad decision after bad decision all across the board on vitually every issue.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:10 | 4845541 SDShack
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Maybe they have a "disappear" button that can be triggered remotely, like the Malaysian Air Liner.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:03 | 4845498 All is chosen
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Memo:

Dick, I told ya it should a bin financial sanctions only. 

Yours

W

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:04 | 4845509 scraping_by
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W:

Shut up and try to get your lines right.

Dick

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:36 | 4845638 All is chosen
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No one ever lisunned to me, even when I wus wired urp.

And what is that guy on about above me? What has Iran got to do with Iraq? Don't he kno they ain't the same place?

 

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:09 | 4845535 teslaberry
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With american help and gulf arab money, exxon and shell shall hopefully have the ability to make al queda a new country in northern iraq by which to destroy assad.

if america can somehow get al queda more weaponry and mercenaries , which i'm certain we are doing our best,----we will eventually get our pipelines to europe from the gulf states.

once that is done and the gulf states no longer need worry about the persians blocking hormuz....well, we can engage iran and let them attempt to block hormuz without even worrying about the subsequent effects.

hormuz? fuck if we care. time to kick the shit out of iran. ghenghis khan style.

if you don't think the united states is not the main supporter, through its deals with the gulf states, of al queda---then you are not paying attention. .

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:33 | 4845629 I Write Code
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So ISIS doesn't want the southern oil fields or Baghdad.

Yeah right.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4845713 Duffy Duck
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Me thinks these fellers are useful idiots for people with access to tremendous amounts of fiat and weaponry.

Wed, 06/11/2014 - 18:19 | 4846360 esum
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STAY IN THE SANDBOX AND KILL ONE ANOTHER

wouldn't want to be saud or sabah

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