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Will Spain Default?
With 10Y yields trading below those of US Treasuries, asking the question of Spain's rising default risk seems risible but as Bloomberg's Maxime Sbaihi notes, the longer the euro flirts with deflation, the higher the risk that the heavily indebted (and becoming more so) countries will be tempted to default. Of course, this 'concern' is entirely ignored by the 'market' as Draghi has promised enough liquidity to soak up every short-dated bond but as the European Union's so-called "1/20 rule" suggests - requiring states to reduce excessive (over 60% Debt/GDP) by 1/20th every year or face a fine of 0.2% of GDP - Spain, it appears has 5 options to escape this vicious circle... and one of those is restructuring...
To reduce its public debt, Spain can choose among five options, which are not mutually exclusive.
- The first is to attempt to grow GDP faster than public debt in order to reduce the ratio. According to International Monetary Fund forecasts, annual GDP growth in Spain will remain below 1.3 percent until 2020. This is not enough to stabilize the debt ratio, according to Bloomberg Brief calculations.
- The second option is to pursue fiscal adjustment until the primary balance — the budget balance without debt interest payments — reaches a surplus. With a primary deficit of 4 percent, Spain still needs further consolidation, heightening political risk from voters who show increasing signs of austerity fatigue. Reducing the deficit too quickly might also endanger the recovery.
- Another option is financial repression, involving state-dictated measures such as interest-rate caps, direct lending to the government or regulation of capital flows. This runs up against reputation risk, political backlash and legal issues, especially in a currency union. Yet it remains a possibility after some features were implemented during the banking sector bailout in Cyprus.
- Another even more radical option is to restructure or fully default on the debt. That has become more conceivable with the Greek precedent and years of austerity fatigue. In a December 2013 paper on debt restructuring, Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff warned: “restructurings will be needed, particularly, for example, in the periphery of Europe, far beyond anything discussed in public to this point.”
- One final option is to rely on inflation. Spain’s public debt is fixed in nominal terms, except for one 5 billion euro inflation-linked bond issuance last month. Higher inflation means a lower real value for repayments. Given the current debt stock, even 3 percent inflation in Spain would only reduce public debt to GDP by 1 percentage point by 2025, according to Bloomberg Brief calculations based on IMF projections
Repression has been tried and the banks are already neck deep in it... growth is a joke in the new normal... fiscal adjustment is simply (as we have seen) too much pain for politicians... and inflation is going the wrong way... leaving one option (as unpalatable as it is)... default/restructure.
Source: Bloomberg Briefs @MxSba
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i hope all this shit melts down.
Just don't step in the puddle when it does.
Spain is not Venezuela
Yet.
Who would of thought, Draghi announcing publicly that they will provide the liquidity, I am surprised the German public is not out on the streets overturning Italian cars and setting fire to the ECB.
So the Eurotrash will set fire to their currency and watch it burn like the dollar. I guess when you don't have oil you have to come up with something to burn to stay warm.
"When", was left out of the header, "Will Spain Default?"
I suppose if we've learned anything from the previous five years it is that there will be no defaults on any country specific debt instruments.
They'll do bail'ins first using money market and savings accounts and that will be the real red flag.
Why?
Because "It's a big fuckin club........ and you ain't in it." George Carlin
Wait, I thought they were saying Spain is not Uganda. Can I get a scorecard up in here?
It needs to melt down and would if not for the sons of bitches pulling the strings. They will lie, cheat, steal, rape, pilage and fuck their own mother as they rob the system as much as possible and then flee. Without any fear of prosecution.
"Without any fear of prosecution" Right...what they need to fear is DEATH.
No they wont..Belgium will buy it all...does Belgium have a large deep water Navy..they are going to be a powerhouse in the next few years...
Mistranslation youngman, those are groups of farriers.
Not as long as super Mario, GOldman sux alum and frau Merkel have their back. Sure, they'll destroy the currency but shit, dats how dey roll.
Oh, and in other news, 500k Iraqis are fleeing Mosul. Can you say FULL BLOWN CIVIL WAR IN IRAQ?
Let's see how rising oil prices work on inflation.
Double post...
So a little news.
Calls to act on ‘humanitarian crisis’ following Mosul exodus Half a million estimated to have left northern Iraq city after militant jihadists take overhttp://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/calls-to-act-on-humanit...
Will it rain next year? Of course, it will. It's mathematically certain that Spain will default. And no, I don't know when.
Math? What the fuck is that?
The truth.
BUY BITCOIN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
Is that Fone ?
What's U.S.A. Americas debt/GDP ratio....any better? Of course not, it's astronomically off the charts so what about a U.S. default? Is that 'off the table' just like impeachment? Of course it is.
Spain will not default until Greece defaults. I've put in too much damn time waiting for Greece to default. A man can only stand so much.
Exactly, Default? LOL. Did Greece default? Did Cyprus? Did any of the PIIGS? Default will never occur because they just change the rules if the dreaded event actually MIGHT occur. Did it with Greece. Did it with Cyprus. Bailed in bond holders. Manipulated quotas to just get 50.1% to participate, and deem it "Good". Defaults and CDS will NEVER happen! Why? Because the insane fuckers that designed the toxic nuclear options will be the same ones that get fucked by it going off. They will never allow that to happen out of simple self-preservation. Look at TARP. Look at AIG. Look at Government Motors. The Rule of Law is Dead! The New Feudal World Order has arrived.
Hell no. The ECB will gobble up their shit debt like it was pop rock chocolate bars. The Spanish public will be hunting rats with spears and bartering with seashells long before that debt defaults.
Have they boosted their GDP by adding hookers and blow yet? The could buy them a few months. . .
I think the rat hunting comes after all the politicians have been speared as practice for the rats. All it takes is one real hot summer to get the tempers flaring and the crowds enraged. Eurotrashland is in for some big unrest.
Well, we're all going to default our debt away at some point in the future right?
We have been here before in the no so distant past. Will a "credit event" ever trigger a CDS payout? LMFAO!!!!
Not going to happen. WWIII will happen first. Technically, if you are printing money to simply pay interest, you have already defaulted and guess what? Everyone on the fucking planet is printing money.
Hedge accordingly.
Good point. So why do we allow these fucking CDSs? They are despicable little gambling chips that at the end of the day are worth less than an average person's bowel movement.
CDS exist because the Rule of Law is dead. There are only two types of laws. One for the elites. The other for the masses. The New Feudal World Order has arrived.
I don't understand. Is someone saying there's a small chance Spain will not default?
How is Spain supposed to rely on inflation when they don't have access to a printing press? Spain will never make any hard choices until Dragqueen turns off the printing presses and the market forces those choices on them.
WWIII is already happening. It's called Financial WWWIII. And the central banks have the bazookas. Main reason why economic fundamentals, if there ever were any, have disappeared from the markets.
Shouldn't the "1 / 20 Rule" should have kicked in in 2013, the 3rd year after the 60% "breach" without any reduction in Debt/GDP?
As can be seen, Spain's Debt has continued it's moonshot and will continue until default.
The EU rules are a joke (including allowing countries to do an end run on the 3% deficit via Goldman WTF debt swaps).
Spain nears default but its debt trade below US. Sure, whatever.
I thought they already had? Guess I need to wait for a knowledgable, professional determination.
Just have belgium buy the debt....obviously thats the U.S. answer?
Spaniards...dudes....by gold...quick
thought that it might be another nice day for gold...a few attempts at a pop through the morning, but its just been picked away at relentlessly
based on that list, the only option left is to default...deflation, no growth, undergoing repression, not many options left. Just wish this would hurry up, im exhausted watching this slow motion trainwreck...
Fucking unbelievable that the head of that corrupt government is still clinging to power. Shows you what a bunch of CUNTS the WHOLE of Spain are, in that even with the evidence to support/ convict RaJOY he still basks in entitlements.
FUCK SPAIN
Europe will not let anything happen to any corrupt individual if he is towing their line.
But I agree wholeheartedly with you that the whole situation is disgusting beyond belief.
"Will Spain Default?" is the wrong question.
The correct question is, "will Spain wake up and tell the TROIKA to get f%#@*&"?
Nope. The correct question is, "Will the bankers raid the savers personal bank accounts to bail out the country's national insolvency, a la Greece?" I think you know the answer.
No doubt another haircut Cyprus style approaches but the question then is, "what happends next if there is no more money to strip from depositors.?"
Correct question "When will Spain default".
And what's amusing is that you've not even factored in that Spain has guaranteed to make all the companies that have built useless toll roads whole again despite the fact that absolutely no one uses them and all the companies that built them (i.e. Sacyr, Ferrovial, FCC, Acciona, Abertis and OHL) now facing significant losses on their books. That's worth at least another 2 to 3 billion euros. It's not a question of will it default but when it will default!
"fiscal adjustment is simply (as we have seen) too much pain for politicians"
still less pain than default/restructuring
OT: Another haircut in Europe, this time in Austria, Investores will lose $1.2bln
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie...
who will be the next franco?
military coup coming up soon.
It can only be that the illusion of possible return to credit-and EU-funded "prosperity" is still enough to keep the Spanish hoping against hope as yet. At some point that must wear off. They need a Farage.