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Firefight Underway As Russian "Rebels" Cross Border Into Ukraine
While all eyes are affixed on Iraq (and record highs for stocks), the situation in Ukraine continues to re-escalate. Ukraine's interior minister Arseniy Avakov, speaking at a news conference, exclaimed:
- *UKRAINE SAYS RUSSIA FAILED TO STOP REBEL CONVOY AT BORDER
- *UKRAINE SAYS ARMORED REBEL VEHICLES CROSSED BORDER FROM RUSSIA
- *UKRAINE SAYS REBEL CONVOY INCLUDES 3 TANKS, NUMBER OF APCS
- *UKRAINE MILITARY IN FIREFIGHT WITH REBEL VEHICLES NEAR BORDER
Unconfirmed reports note 3 T-72 tanks in the Snezhnoye region. Time for some more sanctions.
What Avakov said (via InterpreterMag)
"Last night, three T-72 tanks crossed the Ukrainian state border from the Russian side.
One tank is in the village of Snezhnoye. Two other tanks have moved out of the town.
These tanks were intercepted by Ukrainian troops in the vicinity of Snezhnoye.
A battle is under way."
The tanks on the move this morning...
And another more detailed clip...
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I don't think T-72 tanks are just parked in someone's garage.
Well, why the fuck didn't Ukraine stop them at the border?
Oh, it's on like Donkey Kong now.
I smell a quick Ukrainian defeat coming on.
This shit is gonna happen all over all at once, iraq, china, russia and probably others...Boom, wars everywhere..
It is T-64 on the video, not T-72.
I just google mapped it and I couldn't find it
Well, this is cool.
Pro-Russian Separatists Flying Confederate Flag...
"Rebels"
But this is what they need to get around those airborne LAV’s the UKes have
I dunno, its east europe, you just might find a few tanks in some garages lol.
I expect the armored column to advance on Kiev at some point in time :)
These are T64 tanks all of which were destroyed by Russia in early 2013. The only place where they still use them is in Ukraine...
"I expect the armored column to advance on Kiev..."
You're not alone. I jsut read some well-founded speculation to that effect.
The flag in your link is literally a replica of the arkansas state flag... which was derived in the same fashion...
Details, details. There are even few T-80 models among the tanks kept in warehouses of Eastern Ruine (not yet sold to Africa's rebels of any kinds). See this link for the funny pics:
https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/278270.html
Unfortunately almost all of ukrainina tanks are not the working order (due to enormous level of corruption and thievery squeezing country all the time after the 2004 coup d'etat). Repairing such an old model as T-64 (or even T-54) s much simplier than T-80, and considering lack of time and properly skilled engineers among the separatists I wouldn't expect T-80 in the news anytime soon.
Regarding easily repairing T-62 consider this reading: http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov12/06.html
You nailed it. And Obama's weakness is just a written invitation. So this fall, watch out as things start to spool out of control.
Thank god for Obamas, "weakness", I don't want him, "helping" AT ALL.
""This shit is gonna happen all over all at once""
Yup,
...Russia takes Ukraine
...S A & Qatar take Eastern Iraq and Syria
...and Kurds take North Iraq and Western Turkey
The Oil & NG will soon flow...but millions of civilians will die first.
...USA takes Alberta
Reggie takes Barry. Check
Bullish!
I'm certainly no expert in Russian tanks, but those are producing some pretty smokey exhaust. I'd think that modern Russian tanks would burn cleaner than that... probably some old tanks that those crazy pro-Russian separatists must have hotwired :-)
Could those have been covered as part of the latest GM recall?
Old school diesel engines right there. Sure it's sucks on air pollution and mileage but it makes up for it with dependability and horse power. Being in Russia, top prioirty is for that damn thing to turn over at 3am in the dead of winter.
I wonder what the "carbon-footprint" is from war?!
If governments were really concerned with their climate-scam, they would just stop warring.
3 tanks?
300 guys in pickup trucks?
Doesn't the US have any friends or puppets who can take care of themselves anymore?
This merits attention.
I've not seen it mentioned anywhere.
Nope. Ukraine's (or Ruine's as we call it in Russia) quick defeat isn't among the desired scenarios. Some Russian politicians believe that Ruine has to suffer a lot before allowing them to come back to Russia and begging for help on their knees. They have to be punished for the betrayal first.
In order to achieve that they decided to offer a very limited aid to Novorossia's separatists. Limited because separatists' support among the locals in Eastern Ruine is already impressively huge and getting bigger and bigger with every Ukraininan air strike. Also there is already a limited support from concerned Russian citizens (since Ruine's borders were opened separatists are getting $100.000 cargo every few days, which covers basic running expenses - just fyi, Kalashnikov rifle costs $250-500 in Ruine now). So if the unofficial aid from the Russian government were unlimited then Kiev would be defeated in a couple of months (or more realistically before November).
Hope nobody here needs an explanation why civil war is slowly choking Ruine's economy.
mehhhhh.....
poor tyler...always working up the crescendo, only to be stiffed on the climax.
there is nothing on like donkey kong. enjoy the bull market....
If things ever really come unglued, none of us will need Zero Hedge to tell us it's happened.
The predictive value of Zero Hedge is zero.
wait! i thought it already happened!!! what about all these headlines about japan and china and europe and the u.s. COLLAPSING!!! always COLLAPSING!!!!
When Zero channel stuffs E Ukraine with GM products full of disease ridden Mexican teenagers then it will be on....
Why should they?
What's a state without a border to defend?
The Uke border patrol abandoned their posts last week,leaving over 150km unsecured.
So I don't know how Kiev can monitor anything,sounds like escalation BS again.
The federalists are getting tanks and APC abandoned by Uke conscripts.T72's are old,
you could buy them on the black in the 90's for a few dollars.
I'd like a T-72 to go with my SKS
But I'd have to install those "parking assist" sensors on it and front & rear cameras.
Don't need snow tires for it however.
And they can run on bio-diesel so that makes em "green"
So what's not to like?
My teenage son is always telling me I should use my credit card to buy a tank and then default on the credit card. He thinks that's the best way to prevent the bank from coming after me.
Kid is showing real promise, you should be proud...
Mine tells me to buy gold and a boat.
I wonder if Ally "Bank" would give me an 8 year loan for a T-64.
Well, there you go. Ukraine gov cannot even manage to maintain a border patrol, yet they bitch about Russia failing to stop border crossings.
LOL
Dang! If only they had border control like the american assisted one in mosul...iraq.. um.. wait.... uh....
Hell what if they had regular ol' American Border Patrol? Screw tanks we can't stop several thousand starving children from over running the border. Christ put those kids in tanks and they'd overun DC in a heartbeat. Live Mas ya'll.
No need for Ukraine to stop them at the border. When our super freak "Choom" Obama reads the paper and finds out about this, there's going to be hell to pay for Vlad. Putin knows and fears the wrath of the Choom. You don't think that viral video of the Choom mandhandling those three pound dumbells and doing stairstep exercises was just a coincidence do you? I think not! The Choom owns Putin and everyone knows it.
Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"
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Right Sector was preoccupied with a marshmallow roast after hitting a village with incendiary bombs.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/06/12/ukraines-armed-forces-l...
Exactly. What horseshit. It's not Russia's responsibility to protect the Ukrainian border.
You'd be surprised at what you can buy on the open markets over in Russia, lol
"I don't think T-72 tanks are just parked in someone's garage." -
You would be surprised. In the late 80's you could buy a MIG 15 for around $5,000.
My father (USAF retired) had one for a little while. The upkeep cost and fuel cost was the killer.
Just like horses, people will give you a horse, keeping it is the expensive part.
These are amung the 400 just sitting around 40 miles inside the Ukraine border in an old tank junkyard:
See: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=042_1402588481
This is an attempt of the West to portray Putin as an invader so NATO can go in and "save" Ukraine.
I have a few spare to go to Europe in summer.
Aparently your rebel friends are everywhere!
No comment necessary:
Obama: "The World Is Less Violent Than It Has Ever Been"http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/06/11/obama_the_world_is_les...
He must watch too much Game of Thrones.
The source should give it away 'Real Clear Politics'. Its an oxymoron.
Well in his world the golf courses, there is a lot less shouting and namecalling these days.
said the nigga who got school killingspree every weeks in his own country... and dont have any one ballz to break the NRA...
monkey facing banana.
It is more like he doesn't have the balls to go after big pharma. These drugs cause a psychotic rage in a number of users under 25. It is a known side effect. You want to stop school shootings? Don't perscribe these drugs to anyone under 26.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/psych-meds-linked-to-90-of-school-shootings/
Russia failed to stop, come on ?
Russia allowed.
Russia deployed.
guesswork
Wouldn't the onus be on Ukraine to stop them?
Hey, didn't Zero and Kerry demand that Russia withdraw its troops from the border?
How can Russia seal the border from 20 miles away?
Q: What side of the road does a T-72 tank drive on ?
A: Any side it wants
At a four-way stop sign, the tank always has the right-of-way.
I just checked my PA DOT driver's handbook.... they still have to stop for a school bus with it's red lights on and they are not allowed to exceed 15 MPH in a school zone.
Directly under those regs is read "It's for the children, after all. If we can save just one...."
Save at least one kiddie for the Drone to hit in a practice 'KINETIC' strike lol
I always thought that anything weighted 45 tons, and came with a 125mm cannon pretty much had "yield" written all over it.
Road? Funny.
decades ago, the tanks's way crossing fields were used to define the roads after the wars.
Where we're going, we don't need roads.
A: Both sides.
(source: the pictures above)
Well they may have failed to stop those at the border.
They won't fail to stop nat gas flow at the border.
And from the looks of that thing it is one of the major oil consumers of the world, diesel and faulty piston rings.
i thought Cossacks rode horses
Yes except in one of these they get way more than 1 HORSEPOWER lol
https://www.google.com/search?q=bear+cavalry+origin&sa=X&rlz=1CAACAC_enU...
They ride bears.
Where's the third front going to be? We've got Iraq and Ukraine..... please let the next one be Washington!!
The trend seems to be old conflicts heating back up.
So I say Vietnam is the next battle front.
Only question there is which side are we on?
Both, of course (depending on what the word "is" means).
Don't believe a word of what comes out of Kiev these days. I remember the videos showing a "helicopter takedown by separatists" which turned out to be in fact a helicopter shot down in Syria last year. All damned lies and propaganda. If the Russians wanted to send some tanks why stop at 3? why not a few dozen at different spots?
But yeah, you need justifications for moar sanctions....
can't wait to see some tanks rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue...
Putin places his trades, orders the moves and then clears his positions.
Welcome to the new way of waging war.
The fake war is created to make profits in the markets. Faster, easier than an all out engagement.
military aggression is only ok when the USA does it an ocean away in a nation which does not threaten it.
It's never okay for Russia to use its military, not even on its border in a country with a lot of ethnic Russians, a big chunk of which was Russia proper 60 years ago, after an American/NATO coup designed to further encircle Russia with NATO bases and missiles, as an obvious part of an obvious plan to destabilize and break up Russia itself.
Obviously, this aggression can not stand, man.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/tightening-the-u-s-grip-on-western-europe-w...
Slaviansk has been shelled with white phosphorus. Please confirm.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=638827559542536&set=vb.608489642576...
This is scary, the USA is trying to set the whole world on fire at once, we really must be getting close to the big dollar reset so they are trying to push it back a little bit more by destroying the world...freakin bunch of nuts and war criminals in DC
I wonder if their looking for the lovely Asst Sec of State Victoria (F.U) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan?
Negotiations by other means...
same as it ever was.
About a week from now, Oblowhard will say he first learned of this after reading about it in that morning's NYT (after he got thru with the comics) and that he finds it an outrage and very unacceptable.
Then he'll head out for a round of golf.
That escalated quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI
From a few days ago. Russia is providing a lot of covert support. Article below in German, Yandex translation leaves a lot to be desired but you can get the drift.
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http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/06/09/krim-einsatz-nato-...
'NATO is clandestinely excited by the Russian tactics in the Ukraine. Security officials as well as members of the secret service are agreed: Moscow has a brilliant campaign. The Russians are the West always a step ahead, say military appreciatively...
"I was impressed. This excellent approach. This was a precise and perfectly calibrated Operation (...) - it is silent, but deadly effectively“, quoted by the FT of the British military expert Jonathan Eyal. The West was from the beginning, unprepared, so the assessment of the Director for international studies, at the London's Royal United Services Institute...
In NATO circles is convinced: The schedule of the separatist attacks requires a "guiding Hand". First of all militias attacked the government buildings and communication centres. Then we went to Central supply points and, eventually, to military installations. Several times were Ukrainian troops tricked...
A special role in the tactics of Moscow plays the Cyber-War. It is assumed that Russia for virus program "Snake" is responsible. The program is infected computer in Europe and the USA. The level of sophistication should be greater than that of all currently known malicious programs. "It is a sophisticated Malware, with other Russian Exploits is linked, encryption, and on Western governments aiming at. The are everywhere Russian fingerprints“, cited the portal itexperst the former officer of the American Auslandsdienstes and now a senior scientist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, Jim Lewis. Infected were now also hundreds, possibly thousands of Ukrainian IT-systems. The hackers now have ungehindertern access to the data. Moscow itself is silent on this...'
In the nuclear age, proxy wars are all that is left for the oligarchs as an open declaration of war between nuclear superpowers would be the end for us all.
No sane person, is the weak part of that argument.
Manson would fit right into the group.
Marilyn or Charlie?
Both.
Ah, the old silent but deadly. Never heard of it as a war maneuvre, but... brilliant.
(Seriously, though: awesome.)
The VSS was widely used in the Chechnya war, and since chechnyans vowed to fight Svoboda and Right Sektor, that is plausible.
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/vss-e.html
"The West was unprepared" what nonsense. They've been bribing for years, 5 billion $ was put in. Ample time to set something up.
Barry knows how to spread the LOVE.
What a coincidence that just when Putin needed some cover for an operation, The Iraq thingy heated up and diverting attention....
Coming to Poland soon!
Maria Sharapova is the next Russian to get hit with US sanctions.
That would foment a revolution inside the U.S.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2652204/Shes-winner-Triumphant...
That girl has some Leggggggggggggggz
I am sure she would of been the perfect girl for the ZZ top song.
Those legs - they go all the way up to her uh...trophy.
Amen to the leeee... uhhh,,, "Trophy!". [almost messed up there]
Yeah, I'd volunteer to hit her with some of my sanctions.
If Israel really is planning on bombing Iran, now is the time to do it.
It would be the least of the world's leaders worriies.
It's too late now, bombing an operating Nuclear Power plant would cause the same results as Chernobyl and Fukushima, so that is definitely off the table. Besides Iran under the new President is starting to play ball now, they are still kept as the Bogeyman for the Plebs but are considered "neutralized".
Is Iran playing ball with US? Or, is US playing ball with Iran?
First of all - tanks captured on pictures and videos are not russian T-72, just regular T-64B. T-64B is main battle tank of Ukrainian army. Differences between those tanks are clearly visible to any one who has even small knowledge about russian and ukrainian tanks.
Just another episod of the information war, as usually.
So Ukraine invades Russia with tanks, to stage a fake Russian invasion into the Ukraine, using Ukrainian tanks in the hopes no one can tell the difference?
East European/Russian reality shows are ...odd.
I do believe I'm more concerned about the Russian nuclear bombers 50 miles from my house than some freaking tanks on the other side of the planet.
How's the weather there in far North-West Alaska at the moment, is the pack-ice breaking up yet?
So, you're cool then.
They're kinda noisy on lift-off but once you get past that it's all good!
*UKRAINE SAYS RUSSIA FAILED TO STOP REBEL CONVOY AT BORDER
so the jews of kiev wanted putin to invade ukraine to stop the rebels from invading ukraine a country where they live.
damn that putin his in action is a threat to global security.
every day he does nothing the greater the threat.
who will help the innocent dual passport owners now.
idf and turkey are friends maybe they can sort this with some money help from jewish saudi
First time I find myself reading the comment over and over trying to understand what the heck it says. Regardless of how annoying MDB and Fonzie were, at least I could always tell what they were saying.
Say what son?????
From an American in Ukraine:
Evidently many Kiev troops are deserting and/or refusing to fight their fellow Ukrainian citiziens - but not only for humane reasons. Mostly because they have received NO ammunition, tents, food, etc. from Kiev They are being fed by the people they are supposed to kill, so naturally an affinity has developed between the Kiev troops and the people around Slavyansk. (Yesterday an entire battalion of National Guard - Kiev's reserve troops - abandoned the battlefield and headed back to Kiev to protest against the Kiev government.)
It appears that the same OLIGARCHS that have ruled Ukraine since its independence still run Kiev, while the ordinary Ukrainian citizen gets screwed! Meanwhile the IMF is poised to increase prices in Ukraine for gas, water, rents, electricity, etc.; to reduce monthly retirement benefits by another 20%, just as prices are beginning to skyrocket.
The more things change, the more they stay the same...
-- Jack
Exactly what my friends in Ukraine are telling me.
Stay safe, Jack!
-- Gav in Germany
Insightful take Jack. My thanks!
Is it me, or does it seem Oligarch's Gobalist plans are coming apart rapidly?
Oh the horrors - just think of the environmental damage that these tanks will cause. And the fossil fuels they will use. And I bet they don't have catalytic converters to stop air pollution. We need EPA sanctions!
This war will be fought in Youtube. Screw you Wolf Blitzer
Wolf Blitzer is full of shitzer.
"Sir, I refuse to go into battle with those smelly, environmentally unfriendly, smog creating tanks..." "Good point, Private, sound the retreat"....
Meh. Slap a "Hybrid" sticker on it. That it refers to the crew is moot.
Don't believe a word of what comes out of Kiev these days. I remember the videos showing a "helicopter takedown by separatists" which turned out to be in fact a helicopter shot down in Syria last year. All damned lies and propaganda. If the Russians wanted to send some tanks why stop at 3? why not a few dozen at different spots?
But yeah, you need justifications for moar sanctions....
I hope Putin remembers to tell these "Russian Rebels" how naughty they are for crossing over into Ukraine with that hardware. If he dosen't a whole lot more might cross over and could cause mischeif all the way to Keiv. That would be terrible, peacemaker President Porkchop might have to run away. But Putin hasen't been saying much about anything lately, just working away quietly behind the scenes.
Ukrainian army burns the town of Slavyansk with phosphoric bombs http://youtu.be/TnW-t5ocbAw
Hope they find the fat fuck "Candy Man" for doing this and put him on the diet he'll never forget...
http://investmentwatchblog.com/ukraine-unravels/
Out of the pages of the U.S. military doctrine already played out in Fallujah in 2004... Separate the women and children from the men and kill every boy and man between the ages of 15 and 60! then cover them all with white phosphorous.
Meanwhile, Vlad toys with a pawn...
Vlad the Cat
Bath House the Mouse.
Hell, there's cannons and tanks up on pedistols every where around here in Ukraine.
What a lie... They took 3 tanks a week ago from ukraine army in a battle. There was a fight and ukraine army just run off and leave 3 tanks, some armored cars and ammo... It was in a Russian news but ofc not in the western....
Timing... The Timing... All about The Timing!...
That President Remus sure got himself in one heluva big fix!
http://investmentwatchblog.com/russia-launches-surprise-war-games-next-t...
These tanks were captured by Self-Defense militias. Kiev regime knows this, it is embarrassing, so they say this is a Russian invasion. Another attempt at false flag.
Iraq provided the perfect timing. Nice one, Vlad.
Markets yawn.
It's gonna take a black swan to bring them down.
There's gold in them there tanks. Sell!
When the cold winter hits, even the Blackwater mercs will be begging for Russian citizenship.
Hope V. Putin is now arming the Al-Kaida in Iraq as well.
THis would cause some pain to Übermensch Hussein Obanana, this indispensible exceptional emperor.
Taken from the Tank Graveyard in Kharkiv, Ukraine where hundreds of T-64 are waiting for action?
Type 50.022 , 36.19 in Google Maps
http://goo.gl/maps/YHMta
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T-64 Tanks are reportedly from those that were confiscated by Russia from Ukrainian bases when it took over Crimea.
Russia reportedly giving these tanks now to Pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukriane.
"The Guardian reported: “A pro-Kremlin group runs a network of internet trolls, seeks to buy flattering coverage of Vladimir Putin and hatches plans to discredit opposition activists and media.” Since then the disinformation campaign has infested comment threads on numerous Western sites."
"comments are made by individuals ‘paid to troll, and to denigrate in abusive terms anyone criticising Russia or President Vladimir Putin.’"
"Some comment sections now resemble ‘a sea of incredibly aggressive and hostile users,” with the most obvious having created accounts since February 2014, the date on which the Russian government began to flood the sites (Chris Elliott in The Guardian, 4 May 2014)."
"Kremlin controlled media is involved in an onslaught of rhetoric aimed against Ukraine and designed to confuse and persuade audiences in Russia, in Ukraine, and particularly in the West."
"disinformation is being spread about Ukrainian "atrocities" in what appears to many observers to be a Russian military and propaganda buildup for war against Ukraine."
"Russian authorities are unabashedly cleansing the media landscape of independent voices that have the power to shape minds..."
http://www.ukrainianwinnipeg.ca/russian-propaganda-works-social-media/
http://worldmediawatch.com/2014/03/04/daily-beast-and-ft-expose-putins-crimea-propaganda-machine/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/18415-is-russian-propaganda-preparing-for-intervention-in-ukraine
http://news.msn.com/in-depth/russian-propaganda-war-in-full-swing-over-ukraine