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Norad Admits F-22 Fighter Jets Intercepted 4 Russian Bombers 50 Miles Off California Coast
"At the height of the Cold War I do not remember them getting this close," notes a retired Air Force Lt. Gen. as The Washington Free Beacon reports that four Russian strategic bombers triggered U.S. air defense systems while conducting practice bombing runs near Alaska this week, with two of the Tu-95 Bear H aircraft coming within 50 miles of the California coast, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) confirmed Wednesday. Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled and intercepted the bombers over the Aleutians but the remaining two nuclear-capable bombers then flew southeast and entered the U.S. northern air defense zone off the coast of Northern California, before 2 more F-15s were scrambled. As House Armed Services Committee member Connaway ranted, "truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals."
As The Washington Free Beacon explains, Four Russian strategic bombers triggered U.S. air defense systems while conducting practice bombing runs near Alaska this week, with two of the Tu-95 Bear H aircraft coming within 50 miles of the California coast, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (Norad) confirmed Wednesday.
Davis said the latest Bear H incursions began Monday around 4:30 p.m. Pacific time when radar detected the four turbo-prop powered bombers approaching the U.S. air defense zone near the far western Aleutian Islands.
Two U.S. Air Force F-22 jets were scrambled and intercepted the bombers over the Aleutians.
After tracking the bombers as they flew eastward, two of the four Bears turned around and headed west toward the Russian Far East. The bombers are believed to be based at the Russian strategic base near Anadyr, Russia.
The remaining two nuclear-capable bombers then flew southeast and around 9:30 P.M. entered the U.S. northern air defense zone off the coast of Northern California.
Two U.S. F-15 jets were deployed and intercepted the bombers as they eventually flew within 50 miles of the coast before turning around and heading west.
A defense official said the four bombers also were supported by two IL-78 aerial refueling tankers that were used for mid-air refueling during the operation this week.
The bomber incursion is the latest Russian nuclear saber-rattling amid stepped up tensions over Moscow’s military annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea.
Rep. Mike Conaway (R., Texas), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, called the Russian flights “intentional provocations.”
“Putin is doing this specifically to try to taunt the U.S. and exercise, at least in the reported world, some sort of saber-rattling, muscle-flexing kind of nonsense,” Conaway said in an interview. “Truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.”
“It’s a provocation and it’s unnecessary. But it fits in with [Putin’s] macho kind of saber-rattling,” he said, adding that he expects Russia will carry out more of these kinds of incidents in the future.
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, a former Alaska commander for the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said he does not remember a case of Russian strategic bombers coming that close to the U.S. coast.
“Again we see the Obama administration through their covert—but overt to Mr. Putin—unilateral disarmament, inviting adventurism by the Russians,” McInerney said in an email.
“At the height of the Cold War I do not remember them getting this close. Mr. Putin had to approve this mission and he is just showing his personal contempt for President Obama right after meeting him in Normandy less than a week ago,” McInerney said.
McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.
“A sad day indeed and at the same time Mosul and Tikrit [Iraq] fall to radical Islamists after the Obama administration’s failed Iraq policy,” he added. “He snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.”
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And Russia has the most nuclear weapons. The world is rapidly transitioning to higher order moments (no longer monopolar).
Only 2 made it to California, but who's counting.
Cold War II Cranks up as 2 TU-95 Bear Bombers Intercepted 50 miles from Northern California
I believe that puts them 150 miles inside our exclusion zone...,
good work, Obama.
Now called our "welcome mat zone"?
In the 1950's and 1960's, everyone was sure there would be a nuclear war. The next decades, everyone was convinced it would never happen. Time to re-think once again.
Mr. Obama, tear down this wall.
Why can't Ruskies visit Cali?
McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history.
The coup comes closer...not that I think it's a good idea...
But it fits in with [Putin’s] macho kind of saber-rattling,” he said, adding that he expects Russia will carry out more of these kinds of incidents in the future.
I think this guy is saying: "Yeah, when America sabre-rattles, we fucking kill millions of people! Putin is some kind of pussy!"
Ok, Nomad also said this according to http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian-bombers-fly-within-50-mi...
Davis said the aircraft “acted professionally” and the bombers appeared to be conducting a training mission.
“They typically do long range aviation training in the summer and it is not unusual for them to be more active during this time,” he said. “We assess this was part of training. And they did not enter territorial airspace.”
What's the big deal? The only sabre-rattling here is done by the media.
Baby seals everywhere, beware.
Obama and the US are on the march.
Q: What do you call Russian planes dropping bombs on California?
A: Urban Renewal.
Obama, Obama.
Just remember the last 9 times we almost started a nuclear war.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/05/the-9-times-world-almost-entered.html
Obama
Baby seals
Navy seals vs. Baby seals. Go team go.
Which is more "dangerous" to amkra, China's fighters 50 meters from Japanese fighters, or Russia bombers 50 miles from CA coast?
Should horseface comment?
Nevermind.
The only question that matters: "IS THIS GOOD FOR THE S&P?"
The only answer is always: "YES IT IS!"
Right !
After all, what's good for the S and P is good for the U S A !
or was it General Bullmoose ? I do so miss Al Capp.
It's official, Obozo is a Russian stooge!
I'm not so worried about Russia right now because they are not killing and beheading and all that.
I just heard that the guy who is spearheading the Mosul and Tikrit takeovers and is marching on Baghdad is someone we let out of Gitmo in 2009. Now he apparently has a $10 million bounty on his head.
Boy, this administration sure knows how screw everything it touches up.
Heads should be rolling in D.C.
I can hardly wait to see what the 5 key leaders we swapped for the wandering private, er, sergeant now (promoted on release) will do to exact their revenge.
The former detainee leading the effort in Iraq has to be laughing his ass off at us (just like everybody in Central America).
Ten million DOLLARS?! Screw that. Try YUAN.
Seriously, I'm skeptical about this entire "insurgency" narrative. It's too neat, like the War On Terror garbage we were spoon-fed after 911. Major transitions don't just pop up out of nowhere over a period of 4-5 days. Where were all the self-proclaimed experts in the geopolitical newsletter community a week ago? Turn on the TV and there's a bunch of new talking heads (one of them, a woman, is pretty hot) all pushing the ISIS / ISIL narrative. Where are they getting this shit, that they can portray so clearly a picture that didn't even exist last week? This is just another installment of dollar-based contractor-mercenary proxy bullshit, isn't it! ISIS/ ISIL = AL CIADA SPINOFF?
WTF do we need the NSA for?
They did nothing to protect the Boston Marathon from whatever enemies (foreign or domestic) blew that race up.
Do you think they can do anything to thwart the devious bastards that Obama is putting back into the world (and now using out money and hardware)?
Who do you think PAYS said "devious bastards?"
I know.. I know..
..and then there is this:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/congressmen-obama-using-cloward-piven-maneuver/
The commie bastard-in-chief wants $1.5 billion of your grandchildren’s new debt for humanitarian aid for the swarm of kids being pulled into the country instead of for border security.
I think I'll go down to the basement and huff some spray paint.
I wonder if the metallic aluminum or the chrome would work better.
Noradbozo.
Fucking clowns all these motherfuckers.
Hope and change bitchez!
Up next more KINETIC strikes on baby fur Seal pups, except instead of getting some losers to club the seal pups in the head we will take them out with a Hellfire missile or more preferably a head shot with a depleted Uranium Anti Tank Round.
Cause we are come on everyone sing along....
" Kinetic, Magnetic, we ain't Apologetic, Poetic but very Kinetic forget about the Medic, he too was dispatched by KINETIC"
Anybody would have turned jihadist after a leisure period at Gitmo. So, Gitmo is really a very good bootcamp. "Waterboarding is not torture" :|
Faster than Detroit
1). drop baby seals on detroit
2). hand out baseball bats
3). beat baby seals to death
4). strip baby seals of skin
5). ship skins to china
6). make pretty fur coat
7). ship coat to russia.
8). sell baby seal burgers on street corner
jobs, economic renewal, dead animals, free trade, GDP booster....make love, not war.
The "plan", had they made it, was to open the bomb bay doors and drop tons of US dollars on the sleepy citizens. Wait a minute. That's already being done.
Think of just how funny that would have been.
@Pool Shark: You're damn right! We're all sick of California paying for our SNAP cards and paved roads!! They should just KEEP that tax money ....
Baby seals and Desert Tortoises everywhere, beware.
FIFY
The US are pretty good at killing seals - especially their own when they know too much.
Well, OK it's settled then. Next time we'll let them overfly Nevada and wave 'hi' to Harry Reid.
Sounds more like somebody's trying to calm everyone down and do some CYA after a collossal fuck up.
Harry Reid called them in for an airstrike on the bundy ranch.
.
It's turtles all the way down ya know.
Actually, I think it was in response to calls for help by the U.S. Border Patrol. Have to say, though, that I was expecting the UN or NATO to respond before Russia.
Whatever it takes to get the antiwar protestors out again. It's been a long 6 years.
It's always a training mission...until it's not. It's called habituation, a form of conditioning -a decrement in responding as a result of repeated exposures to a stimulus...then you're asleep, and...Whammo! Same as it ever was.
Wasn't the Enola Gay on a training mission?
No it was a recon mission to get the airborne photos of a nuclear blast they forgot to take at Trinity.
Russian Bear bombers used to do this all the time back in the late 70's and 80's. They'd have one shadowing us on fleet excercises too, often just over the horizon (~30 miles). We'd scan them (radar, electronic countermeasures, jamming, etc), they'd scan us, standard fair.
No American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history...
and then the bombers showed up.
Respect has to be earned and this one is inept.
No sane person would respect someone in government.
No sane person would respect someone in government.
True.
Yet all those "sane people" will still line up to vote at the next opportunity ... and the next .... and the next.
Weakness invites aggression.
Aggression also invites aggression. We've fucked over too many countries for too long, and it's all going to bite us in the ass pretty soon.
Russia is letting us know that they're getting tired of our shit.
Exactly ! Your (our) governments are parking missile bases and weapons all over the world and in space ... I'll bet NATO planes fly that close to Russia every other day.
So who's being disprectful of boundaries and peace again ?
We have no moral ground to stand on - hypocrisy rules the day as usual.
Interesting that this shit ramps up RIGHT NOW. BRICS Development Fund supposedly kicks into gear next month. USD is about to take a swan dive; time for a new round of Whack-A-Mole...
No American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history...
We'll have to send Aretha there.
Maybe Mooshell can do a selfie..
Let's have Jon Stewart do a skit called Poopoo Putin...
Hollyjoowood can replace all the clownish A-rab bad guys with Rooskies....
Vote that Rooskie beyotch offa Dancin' wit dem Stars.....
Finally, all Obozo has to do is utter one word to bring that soviet psycho to bay: Rodman.
"Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney," calls for more war spending, well who could have guessed it !
i bet there have been plenty of US planes within 50 miles of russia's borders, but i suppose that's different??
what about all those foreign bases close to russia?? would we be happy with russian bases surrounding the US ??
We're just being conditioned so that more wars are accepted.
Next step a false flag or two, stories about womend being raped, kids being murdered in hospitals...
same as it ever was.
Yeah. Most of us in California would welcome the Russians. And they'd be charmed by the nostalgia of reliving the Soviet Era.
Jokes on you Mr. Putin.... You can have california....
Wait on second thought, Do you think Putin could secure the southern border with Mexico? He might be a better administrator and executive of the laws of this country.
truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals.
Would that be before, or just after they loosed their nuclear cruise missiles?
Bingo!!!
Turboprops are not intended to overfly their targets.
No worries. Obama will just move the Red Line to save embarrassment. It's now 150 miles closer. Just like his govvy does with the CPI calcs, GDP calcs, etc. Change the definition and 'poof', no problemo.
And Obama's voters will rush out to tell us how brilliant he is, how the economy is getting better, how the world is at peace, how well we're respected, how Palin is an idiot, Bush lied, Reagan was a cowboy, Nixon was blah, the TEA Party blah blah... and hey! Kardashians!
Kardashians Lied!?!?!?
Bush was a cowboy!?!?!
Palin was Blah?!?!?
Whoodah thunk?
The globalists want war. The rest of us want peace.
No man wants to fight if there is a naked breast around. This old world has gone crazy, too much hating and killing going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Eh2PjkzW20w#t=15
Thanks for the laugh Crawdaddy!!!
I hear those planes hold 500 hookers each, add it to GDP...
No Gun Zones have never worked.
And we think No Fly Zones will?
only if you are prepared to wage a war to enforce it.
We aren't prepared to fight a war with someone who can fight back. We're the schoolyard bully.
Like free speech zones?
Some where on this planet there are people standing inside a little roped off place saying - "i'll totatlly kick your ass once I get permission to go outside this little plastic fence."
Fortunately, sane people recognize imaginary borders for what they are.
The No Job Zones seem to have been a complete success.
And 50 miles is not as close as Ukraine is to the Russian border.
I'm pretty sure Putin is saying:
"There, how does it feel to have us this close? Is it upsetting, in the least?"
Has jerry brown surrendered yet?
His hair. And an honest budget without accounting gimmicks.
And to Mexico.
The "exclusion" zone only applies to economic activities. Soverign territory extends only 12 nautical miles from the coastline.
The US made a regular practice of flying U-2s over the Soviet Union.
Made Russia should buy a used one and fly it over the US. That would make it okay.
Crybabies, the lot.
Uh, yea, until they shot one down. Why buy a U-2, when they could log onto Google Earth for free?
So that they can record our anti aircraft system frequencies so that they can jam it properly in a real attack.
Just saying..
The problem with this is what if one day they are carrying something live, something real. Can you say "Pearl Harbor" again?
I believe that puts them 150 miles inside our exclusion zone...,
To be fair, they had radioed ahead and initially misrepresented they were delivering a group of undocumented Mexicans
Truth of the matter is those bombers are designed to launch hypersonice cruise missiles a thousand miles out and flying to California was simply a middle finger gesture.
Russian nuke bomber strategy is to stand-off with long range super sonic suface skimming nuke cruise missiles vs. US strategy of stealth bomber penetration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos
Exactly.
They would have been half way home before the missiles struck.
A probe to test out US defenses ,which failed to aquire, and intercept in time.
We're so fucked, its not even funny anymore.
We are fucked, but not because of this. Russia would never start a war with the U.S. Nations will fall because of economic warfare this time. Stop getting all moist in your boxers about impending air and land battles.
Not worried about Russia or China.
If the US is about to lose, do you think its going quietly into
the long goodnight ?
Especially with a narcissistic fag in charge.(Obozo or Hitlary).
Berkeley is a nuclear free zone, so they got that going for them ...
Two F-15s were scrambled. Really? Wow - that must have scared the shit out of the Russkies. When provoked we respond in force. Were they national guard? Even better. Weekend warriors - USA USA!
Really?
Victimhood is high among 'americans'. Never unless provoked.
Actually, 'americans' are bullies who enjoy nothing more than a vague illusive feeling of being justified.
Scrambling that few forces only show that once again, they would once again take a slap in return of much provocation to justify use of bludgeon right after that.
'Americans' have been working that way since their inception.
Yet Putin, the chess player, does not seem to dig.
Well that's two more than on 9/11, heck of a job NORAD!
Well that's two more than on 9/11, heck of a job NORAD!
I like their stratagy better...
Superior numbers and distance. This is why meddling in Ukraine is such a mistake.
Napoleon and Hitler learned it, but we haven't.
The Star Wars dream was to invent energy and particle beam weapons that operated from space to knock out most any incoming missle. Wonder if they ever got those things working.
The answer is no...transmission through the atmosphere is a tough problen and it's not close to being solved..
....unless it's a clear day and you happen to be in the twin towers
Hey, man. Nice shot.
Nice shot man.
Patriot (and later improvement blocks) was an offshoot of that program, after the space based systems failed to pan out.
Maybe they're just giving a late response to Maverick and Goose.
So if you wanted to hit the middle of the country don't you think with a 1000 mile range you might need to get a little closer ?
Who the fuck would want to bomb our fly-over country?
DC, New Yawk, Kallyfornia,......
chicago would be a good target. Especially if Moo-chelle is there.
Hopefully they took Detroit off the nuke shit list.
Poor bastards.
One can honestly say that in many respects, nuking DayTwa would improve it.
They come over the north pole across northern Canada to hit central and eastern US. Over Alaska to hit west coast. and I'm sure they have a missile sub or two hiding in the Gulf to hit the deep south
Given the range of SLBM's these days, there's no need to go into the Gulf. The Russians can hit pretty much the entire US from the Barents Sea.
Nawww...
Canada has our backs....right?
/s
I wouldn't look to most Canadians for support at this juncture.
We are part of NORAD with you.
You're somewhat correct, with some edits. Tu-95's are armed with Kh-55's, which fly well below the speed of sound, mach 0.7-ish. They are not "hypersonic". Also, the BrahMos is a short range missile mainly deployed as an anti-shipping weapon.
Standoff cruise missiles are not strictly a Russian strategy. The US employes an idential strategy with its B-52H's. They deploy a cruise missile largely identical to the Kh-55 in performance.
What was *really* stupid was to send the F-22s up to intercept. I'll bet these ancient russian prop planes were loaded to the gills with electronics and were recording everything.
Talk about leverage - send 4 60 year old bombers that were paid for years ago and run fine as long as you fill up the tank, and cause the adversary to scramble a billion dollars worth of (now canceled) fighters in pursuit.
But, worry not. Tribe member Weinstein is in charge of the US nuclear forces. The Zionists have taken over the US and are ready to start the final phase of the plan to cut down the population and make the world safe for the .1% dual citizen bankers and their friends...
Two landed to charge up there food stamp debit cards and replace there Bamaphones.
Has jerry brown issued a tax on russian jets yet?
Has jerry brown issued a tax on russian jets yet?
FWIW:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1775.htm
Also crossposted at
Russia Issues Grim Report On North American Magnetic Anomaly | EUTimes.net
A grim report prepared by Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force Lieutenant-General Viktor Bondarev on the just completed scientific mission of North America carried out by 4 Tupolev Tu-95 strategic aircraft and 2 Ilyushin Il-78 aerial refueling tankers that “electronically swept” for “magnetic anomalies” from Alaska to California warns that a “catastrophic event” may be nearing for this region.
US officials, it should be noted, characterized this purely scientific mission as a “bombing run” that came within 50 miles of California, but which their Air Forces were able to repel by their launching of F-15 fighter jets.
This report, however, states that this scientific mission was necessitated by a “severe mysterious magnetic anomaly” detected by the Kosmos 2473 satellite on 3 June occurring in the Yellowstone region of the Western United States which resulted in what is called an “earthquake swarm.”
Most important to note about the 3 June Yellowstone “magnetic anomaly”, this report continues, are that satellite measurements show it being precipitated by the mysterious earthquake swarm hitting the Brooks Range mountains in Alaska, and which seismologists are still at a loss to explain.
WTF ? If any of that is true can you believe you have to rely on Russia to inform the citizens of the US that Yellowstone is about to blow her load ... I'll bet most wouldn't find it surprising at all. Plent of broken windows and GDP coming right up.
A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
- Albert Einstein
This reminds me of "global warming" propaganda, or catastrophe porn after Deepwater Horizon. Poles shift; climates change; the crust is fluid; earthquakes interact. It should be sufficient to note interesting patterns without necessarily drawing fanciful connections and morphing something otherwise mundane into a portent of doom. If we must worry, let it be about known disasters like Fukushima, or psychopaths in power.
half of Russia's armament is being retired... they have fewer operational warheads than the US by far... not that there isn't enough to melt rocks for days on end, just pointing out the difference between raw count vs. ready to go
But we have Obama..., they are way ahead.
Russia has a doomsday option available as well. Nuke the ever living shit out of Sibera Yedoma permafrost, releasing all that locked up carbon, and that's the end of humanity. Nuclear weapons utterly destroy permafrost layers, and that destruction is not limited to the impact zone so there's something like 500 gigatons of carbon that's been flash frozen and would be instantly released, and another 900 gigatons of vegetation that would rot and release. That basically turns the Earth into a hellhole which no longer supports human life ever again.
Who needs to worry about nuking other countries and all the tech and strategy invovled, when you can use your own backyard to hold the world hostage? Yellowstone? Sure, that shit can blow too. But at worst you're looking at a few years of cold weather, less sun, and a world without the US. Russia holds the trump card here.
Where do you get this stuff?
"McInerney said no American president has been treated with such disrespect in U.S. history."
Uh, hey general: No president has treated the American people with such disdain and disrespect in U.S. history. What goes around comes around.
when the Blue-Red BS Show starts to fail at home-the Bankers-That-Be will now start to treat us to the International Blue-Red Show.
Maybe the USA should start protecting the border with Mexico. Try squashing the drug cartels like baby seals. The US Govt is all gangsters now. I am hoping Russia liberates America at this point.
Anyone watch any recent Russian videos? Russians look like Americans circa 1950s. Middle class, clean, intelligent and a lot less feral than modern America.
good observation
Same with main street Chinese: clean, polite, intelligent, well spoken, nice clothes, no dumpster hair or pirate piercings or view tattoos. I was struck by how many parents take their children out for activities and quality time after work, and the pervasive, energizing feeling of HOPE and HAPPINESS. Older people in my group exclaimed that it reminded them of America in the 1950s.
If the pilots spoke spanish they would have been invited all the way in...
Him saying he didn't know any president that was shown so much disrespect? I guess he hasn't been in the US for the past 6 years have he. Obama has been disrespected to the point that they might as well call him nigger from pundits to even politicians themselves. This is what happens when the enemy perceives that the populace and his own govt. doesn't support their leader. The enemy disrespects and gets emboldened. Welcome to world politics 101.
That is the factor Putin seems pretty unable to take into account.
There is no point to try to humiliate Obama because Obama is beyond the point of humiliation.
Putin seems unable to adjust to reality as it is and keeps using tricks that do not correspond with the situation at hand.
The message isn't intended for Obama. It's meant for those who attempt to shape international policy through initiatives like PNAC.
Nope, Putin has been trying desesperately to make that stuff a personal Obama thing, trying to delude himself with the illusion that once Obama is gone, the whole stuff will be gone.
He keeps going that way, without noticing that 'americans' have been using Obama since the start as a way to square the behaviour of any future US president.
A near future US president could not do less than Obama without being belittled.
In the Russia thing, it means that the incoming US president will have to be much tougher than Obama.
You need to read the PNAC. Everything that you see today, from radicalization to de-dollarization, is a natural reaction to the handiwork of the psychopath technocrats who gave us PNAC, "Grand Chessboard," "Clean Break" and other manifestations of control freakdom. Psychopaths are natural destroyers. It's what they do. More about psychopaths:
Political Ponerology (c/o Amazon)
Which don't work / will have significantly reduced yield because they dont maintain the tritium needed to boost the primary physics package.
No other administration has ever deserved such disrespect.
Connaway "truth of the matter is we would have squashed either one of those [bombers] like baby seals."
Connaway is pandering to us Canucks with this respectful statement.
As far as I recall, Tom Green's a Canadian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2WNGocnqdU
+1000 Fuck'n Ehhhh!
National past-time for us Canucks, part of our common core education...Babyseal Clubbing 101
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-55_(missile_family)
1350 Nautical mile old gen russian cruise missle range.... Yep.... squash em like bugs....... Meanwhile your airbase you left is glowing......
Yup. "You don't always get what you deserve, but you usually do."
On second thought, Obama would probably love an attack on US soil so he could "temporarily" suspend the Constitution, declare martial law and cancel upcoming elections.
That's an easy fix, we'll just martial law the Obama administration, they will be hog tied into indecision over it all.
I could throw a couple molotovs across the lake into Buffalo, but I don't think anyone would notice.
Or care.
Actually, that sounds like a Canadian version of the Marshall Plan. (I've been to Buffalo.)
And no other Western populace deserves such disrespect for tolerating it.
"Home of the Brave", my ass!
We've never been this weak before either.
We've been weak before. I just don't recall us seeking it out so actively.
It's one thing to pull back from overseas military activities, but you know, I'd really like to think we're still OK with using our military to defend our own country.
"using our military to defend our own country"
No need for the military there. We're training up and militarily arming our police forces to defend "our country" from our people. Even the rest of the friggin' National Guard will be overseas as WWIII continues to heat up. Maybe the Blue Helmets will be here to help our police. Maybe that will wake up some more of our police.
These cowardly criminal scum do such a good job at protecting our southern border from invasions.
I wish Putin would invade from the south. I would have flowers and beer for the Russians and a go home or I will shoot order for the illegals.
We were weak during the Carter years. Or as some of us call it, the first incarnation of Obama.
Jimmie's worst decision was hiring and believing the neocon-man, Brzezinski.
I never thought I would say this, but you actually managed to insult Jimmie Carter.....
We were weak, but were still feared.
And his faults aside, I never felt like President Carter was ACTIVELY trying to bring down the curtain. He seemed like a sincere man, just took bad advice.
He just had an administration full of CFR douche bags.
Which is exactly par, come to think of it. I just think Reagan was a lot better at ignoring them. Until they shot his ass.
That's an attention getter.
Our problem isn't "weakness." Our problem is stupidity.
Well, there was the day the Brits burned down Washington DC?
Obama knows nussing.