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In 33 U.S. Cities, Feeding The Homeless Has Been Criminalized

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The “war on compassion” when it comes to the homeless in America has been one of Liberty Blitzkrieg’s key themes this year. There are many reasons why I find this topic to be of such tremendous importance. First and foremost, I think that if we want to see how the state and crony corporate status quo will treat everyone in the future, all you have to do is look at how the homeless are being “dealt with.” Secondly, random groups feeding the homeless in various venues is a great example of decentralized compassion. Political power hates decentralization and is quite intentionally trying to corral the homeless into the centralized bureaucratic channels over which it has total control. So this isn’t merely a humanitarian issue, it is also a front line battle in the key war of our time: Decentralization vs. Centralization.  

As I mentioned, this has been a key topic on this site in 2014. Before reading on, I suggest checking out some of my recent posts on it:

Couple Fined $746 for the Crime of Feeding Homeless People in Florida Park

The Homeless in NYC Are Now Living in Tiny Spaces in the Frame of the Manhattan Bridge

Illinois Church Told by City Officials It Can No Longer Provide Homeless People Shelter

South Carolina City Implements Law that Requires a $120 Permit to Feed Homeless People

Moving along to the meat of this post, the National Coalition for the Homeless (NCH) is about to release a report that details how 33 cities in America have either banned or are considering banning feeding homeless people. It’s so bad, that the UN singled out the U.S. in a report on human rights for our nation’s criminalization of the homeless. Where’s George Clooney and the rest of the Hollywood faux human rights celebrities on this issue? Crickets.

PolicyMic reports that:

The news: In case the United States’ problem with homelessness wasn’t bad enough, a forthcoming National Coalition for the Homeless (NCH) report says that 33 U.S. cities now ban or are considering banning the practice of sharing food with homeless people. Four municipalities (Raleigh, N.C.; Myrtle Beach, S.C.; Birmingham, Ala.; and Daytona Beach, Fla.) have recently gone as far as to fine, remove or threaten to throw in jail private groups that work to serve food to the needy instead of letting government-run services do the job.


Why it’s happening: The bans are officially instituted to prevent government-run anti-homelessness programs from being diluted. But in practice, many of the same places that are banning food-sharing are the same ones that have criminalized homelessness with harsh and punitive measuresEssentially, they’re designed to make being homeless within city limits so unpleasant that the downtrodden have no choice but to leave. Tampa, for example, criminalizes sleeping or storing property in public. Columbia, South Carolina, passed a measure that essentially would have empowered police to ship all homeless people out of town. Detroit PD officers have been accused of illegally taking the homeless and driving them out of the city.


The UN even went so far as to single the U.S. out in a report on human rights, saying criminalization of homelessness in the U.S. “raises concerns of discrimination and cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.”


According to the NCH, one survey of homelessness found 62,619 veterans were homeless in January 2012. Other at-risk groups for homelessness include the seriously ill, battered women and people suffering from drug addictions or mental illness. The economy isn’t helping. More Americans live in poverty than before the recession began in 2008 and the number of households living under the poverty line has reached levels unseen since the 1960s.

So we send young kids off to die in pointless wars and if they actually come back and before homeless we aren’t allowed to feed them. Stay classy America.

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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:37 | 4855581 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Speaking of decentralization I'm not sure what to make of this but maybe Musky is onto something here with the whole decentralization thing.


Following up on his promise from a few days ago, Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk just announced (in a blog post tiled "All Our Patent Are Belong to You") the company is opening its patented technology for use by others. Saying it will not sue anyone who "good faith, wants to use our technology," Musk claims he's doing this to push electric vehicles as a whole, and points to gasoline cars as the true enemy. The problem he's trying to solve is that while 100 million cars are made every year, Tesla will only ever build a fraction of them and so far, other manufacturers haven't followed its lead with capable EVs. The two big questions now are whether anyone else will step up to the challenge of using the tech behind Tesla's cars and Supercharger network, and can Tesla benefit by open sourcing patented technology for use by others? Clearly Musk thinks so, hoping to inspire a "rapidly evolving" tech platform that brings the world zero emission cars for everyone -- here's hoping other tech giants follow his lead.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:41 | 4855586 Shocker
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Its sad, if you have the ability to help someone and you want to..what is the problem

Especially in tough time like today

Job Situation: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:47 | 4855610 Omegaman2211
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The problem, as usual, is the existence of government.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:53 | 4855629 CH1
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Until people stop obeying, evils like this will not stop.

Bitch and moan all you like, but if you keep following their orders, it matters nothing.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:16 | 4855701 espirit
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Soon, being homeless and hungry will land you in a Fema detention center. 

Siberian labor camp, here we come and only in the USSA.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:55 | 4855985 SF beatnik
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I'm of two minds with regard to this question.  

San Francisco is very sympathtic to the plight of the homeless. Churches right in the center of town feed them. Rich socialites fund these church operations.

The central city is now overrun with homeless people.  Many of them are wild and crazed.

The Powell Street BART station is an overnight encampment for dozens of homeless people.  At 6 a.m., about 90 minutes after the start of weekday train service, police roust the campers.

Late one day, I noticed a huge pile of dried shit at the bottom of the Powell station escalator. And awhile back, a homeless person took a big shit right on the upholstered seat of the BART train, six feet away from me. 

Recently I saw a drunken homeless person throw up on the carpeted car floor instead of stepping off the train through the open doors.

And returning home last night, a homeless person in the train car smelled so bad the entire car stank. 

I don't know how the nation is to solve the large and growing problem of homeless people, but I can understand how many cities do not want to follow San Francisco's lead.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 02:16 | 4856004 RafterManFMJ
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I think you'll find fiat money is the cause.

As well as the funding of the cunt class who tosses money their way.

The solution is move to a rural area, and prepare.

If you lived in the mouth of a volcano, would you complain about the smell of sulfur? 

It amuses me no end those who complain as they live on a volcano...be it Detoilet, ShitCongo or LA.

Do you need one of your children's dismemberment to indicate it's time to leave?


Sat, 06/14/2014 - 09:54 | 4856365 SWRichmond
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The economy is is depression.  Homeless people are a very public indicator of just how bad it is.  Hide the problem.

How can we have Liesman on TV telling us how everything is great when we have to stumble over homeless people on the way to work?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 04:19 | 4858102 asdasmos
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Posted Elsewhere:


1) The taxes are not worth the value being returned.

I don't have a problem paying taxes, so long as they go to something worthwhile. I will end up paying around 33% - an entire 1/3rd of my income - in my 2013 tax return. Yes, I am getting a refund, but when I am paying tens of thousands of dollars and not getting the services I should receive for that investment in my country, celebrating the return of a few hundred dollars seems absurd.

Where is my benefit from my government for all of this? Do I have free healthcare? No. Do I have a world class education for my child? No. Do I have any kind of guaranteed income should I lose my job? No.

No, instead, I have a country which is the only one in the world to tax its overseas citizens. A country that bails out banks who prey on those who just want a home to raise a family when they become insolvent - but when it happens to me, and I short sell my home, the IRS is there, ready to tax me on "phantom income" - forgiven debt.

I have a country that spends billions on fighting wars for political gain, but does nothing when there actually is evidence of WMD use against others. A country that hemorrhages so much money on military spending, it must turn around and take loans against my child's future - her income - in order to continue to pay for programs we don't need.

2) I'm tired of people being surprised that I'm American because I have manners, common courtesy, and the ability to see the other side of issues.

Seriously, the number of people I meet who think Americans are rascal-riding land whales (like in the movie Wall-E) with handle-bar mounted machine guns, a sack of Big Macs in the front basket, a clinical addiction to NASCAR, and a passion for the modern day artist that is Jerry Springer - it's just too much. I've been introducing myself as Canadian because apparently I'm so polite, that's where they mostly assume I'm from.

3) The fact that none of this is ever going to change, regardless of what party is in charge, and the fact that the American government continues to shred the constitution a little more each year, until it doesn't even matter anymore.

You may not think of America as a police state, but it is. Nobody's going to come grab you in the middle of the night, unless you're reported as a terrorist of some kind. At that point, just forget about "police work" and get ready for the SWAT team.

Nobody is going to take your children way from you, unless Child Protective Services is called, and someone decides - for whatever reason - that it's "in the child's best interest" to be removed.

Nobody is ever going to interfere with your access to medicine, unless you're trying to get something that isn't ridiculously expensive from another country; in that case, get ready for being charged as a drug trafficker.

Nobody is going to freeze your bank accounts, passport, and other means of movement, unless the IRS believes you haven't given them enough money. Suddenly you have debt to prove isn't there, and it will all get "sorted out" at the blistering fast speed of government efficiency. Or you could just pay the amount they say and it all ends quickly.

4) The fact that the future for my child in the US is so dark.

All this debt, and it's going to fall on her and her children. She's broke, and she doesn't even know it yet. Disgusting.

Well, I count myself fortunate that I don't own a home in the US - it affords me the ability to even consider leaving it all behind. There's so much propaganda about how wonderful America is but, when you look at it without those rosy lenses on, what you really see is horrifying.



Sat, 06/14/2014 - 02:37 | 4856015 dojufitz
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Maybe the ptb have thought....lets be proactive and anticipate a random big shit....?

Let it be known.....'THE RANDOM BIG SHIT LAW HAS BEEN PASSED'......

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 10:44 | 4856453 Oldrepublic
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I have taken the Calcutta (India) metro, much cleaner!

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 10:44 | 4856454 skidsmango1
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Good comments.  My guess is most of us deal very little with the homeless...hence the simplistic solutions.  Although, from a bigger perspective, what else would a FEMA camp be used for initially?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 01:52 | 4858042 Aussie V
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My wife and I fed the homeless on a bi-weekly basis for 4 years. The vast majority of them have a mental illness.

Generally, they have been abused in some manner to the point of cracking. Some were effected by sickness. One lady I knew was a high flying Foreign Affairs Secretary for a Govt Minister until she contracted a bad case of Glandular Fever and she completely 'lost it' mentally from that time on.

I found them, generally respectful, (after we earned theirs) inteligent in their own way and, entertaining.


Sat, 06/14/2014 - 17:52 | 4857364 ajax
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@SF Beatnik  San Francisco has always been the way you describe. I lived there in the mid-seventies and can attest to the same situation you see now.



Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:33 | 4857531 SF beatnik
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I've been here since 1973, and I say it has gotten much worse.


Next step, BART cars will have hard plastic seats and linoleum floors, and mostly standing room.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 08:39 | 4856250 Stuck on Zero
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If you want to feed the homeless you need to do so under the banner of an untouchable group: LGBT.  Set up a booth advertising Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgendered Empowerment and hand out all the food you want to the homeless.  Governments are so afraid of the fallout from messing with this privileged class you will never be touched.


Sat, 06/14/2014 - 09:36 | 4856321 FrankieGoesToHo...
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Thank you sir.  You offer a working solution.  Food or shelter locations just need to erect a sign "Free food/shelter for repressed LGBT and their friends".  You are 100% right no gov agency will touch them.


Reminds me of that scene in Jay and Silent Bob strike back: "And the only thing I do recognize right now is the political fiasco I'm about to avoid here by letting this butt-f*king Brady Bunch go"

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 11:11 | 4856489 TBT or not TBT
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I think I speak for a lot of ZHers in saying I am more comfortable with the L part, the lesbian action. Baby steps.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:01 | 4857808 StychoKiller
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Make that Black, Jewish LGBTs and cover all yer bases!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:54 | 4855631 COSMOS
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Thinking goes like this, if they are not fed they will either die or steal food.  Then the Private Prison lobby behind these laws can lock them up and feed them while costing the taxpayer 40K dollars a year for incarceration, so they eat say 200 dollars a month worth of food that is 2400 dollars of food the rest is corporate income, what a return on investment LOL

With pot being increasingly legalized there are fewer petty drug offenders to lock up.  They need to fill the cells, so how bout the homeless.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:01 | 4855659 Anusocracy
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Coming soon: changing Good Samaritan laws so that Good Samaritans are terrorists.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 02:42 | 4856017 verum quod lies
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They seem to be already inverted that meaning, among many others. We seem to have achieved the Orwellian nightmare where black = white, white = black, up = down, American = anyone but an American, foreigner = native, patriot = traitor, traitor = patriot, etc. etcetera ...

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:00 | 4857468 MachoMan
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While some aspects of our government would support your thesis, the present issue not so much.  At the end of the day, these are LOCAL measures.  As in, the closest thing humans can presently get to self autonomy.  Go a few towns over and it's quite the opposite.  If there is a national law passed under the same terms, then wake me up. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:03 | 4855663 Cliff Claven Cheers
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Very cynical, I like the way you think.  I was thinking along the lines of feeding stray dogs, when you do that thay tend to hang around. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:15 | 4855699 stopthejunk1
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"they need to fill the cells somehow"

I guess you haven't visited a prison lately. There are no empty cells.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 09:05 | 4856290 Remington IV
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Build  more prisons

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 11:17 | 4856494 nc551
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That's the scary part.  They are probably building them as fast as they can con the communities into paying for them, and every prison will always be at max capacity...

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:04 | 4857476 MachoMan
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I'm not sure the municipalities pay shit.   Most of the high profile prisons around here are out in BFE and are the only thing providing local communities with any legal income...  even if the local community wanted to, it couldn't possibly float bonds or do any other measure to help the prison locate there.  But yes, they're at max capacity, and pretty fucking nasty inside.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 05:39 | 4856107 hairInTheSoup
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they 're also obliged to work for free in jail which creates much more profit for the prison lobby & which also creates some gdp for usa and keeps it somehow competitive against low wage countries

so basically the feds & the prison lobby have the same interest in putting people in jail (so the prison lobby don't even need to lobby the gvt)

modern era slavery reinvented :

bail out the banks -> small biz & people go bankrupt -> they become homeless -> make homeless illegal -> put them in jail -> make them work for free -> rebuild the economy on their sweat

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 07:09 | 4856174 rsnoble
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Depending on the jail id probably pick jail over being homeless.  Spend a few cold nights outside with nothing to eat and the prospect might not seem so bad.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:07 | 4857480 MachoMan
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The economy isn't getting rebuilt on their sweat, hell, they can't even pay for their own costs...  but every bit of income is likely more profit to the prison...  They get to work all day and, in return, get to buy some hostess snacks at the commissary...  good times.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 17:52 | 4857363 newdoobie
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I don't think that's right. Homeless don't get sent to prison just the local lock up. Judges usually send them on their way. Sometimes shipped out on buses, or just referred to the local shelter. I have been thinking about a plan to help, but I have more homework to do.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 07:23 | 4856185 Antifaschistische
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It is part of the never ending attempt to MONOPOLIZE human care by the government.   We care for your education, your health, your shelter (section 8) and your food.   Come to US for everything.

This just gives more power to the redistributors who add no value but justify their own parasitical existance as Redistribution Masters.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 10:31 | 4856431 markpower49
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Soft-minded goofs like you are what ruined US cities. Hunt the homeless for sport, then start on all leftists and statists.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:25 | 4855725 zorba THE GREEK
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F#$k the sociopathic bastards that run this poor excuse for a country.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:52 | 4855771 teslaberry
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tesla = centralized financial scam subidized by government to payoff wall street market makers who suck off a % of churn off the liquidity provided BY suckers who see carbon credits as a source of revenue.







YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A MODEL S FOR 60K? BATTERY COSTS AT RETAIL ( AS YOU CANNOT BUY ENOUGH AT SCALE TO GET WHOLESALE PRICES) WILL COST YOU 800 A KILOWATT HOUR AT THE VERY MINIMUM. at 60 kilowatthour minimum pack size , you're talking 48,000 dollars. and you haven't even bought the car!!!!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 23:16 | 4855804 IndyPat
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So....they release plans on how to build your own supercharged Zippo?
Gee, thanks...but I'll pass. Rather not have a smoldering slag heap on my driveway.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:13 | 4855947 NoDebt
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Heh heh.  Indy, you underestimate the importance of smouldering slag heap, I think!

Poof.  And it's gone.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 23:54 | 4855855 yrbmegr
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What's the weather like on your planet?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:31 | 4855961 palmereldritch
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   Saying it will not sue anyone who "good faith, wants to use our technology," Musk claims he's doing this to push electric vehicles as a whole, and points to gasoline cars as the true enemy.

Typically, the Chinese don't ask or wait for permission to rip you off, patent-wise and if anything it is a litmus test of the attraction of the product, critical mass (or lack thereof) of the market notwithstanding.

Now if he branded the Apple logo on the hood, then he might get somewhere in the Middle Kingdom....

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 06:10 | 4856132 doctor10
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At the end of the day, regardeless of how well it may temporarily be able to dress itself otherwise,  the State is a Bully.  The "nanny state" is incapable of compassion -and its true ugliness is exposed when it is brought face-to face with the fact.

The Founding Fathers understood that.  And placed Constitutional Limits accordingly

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 15:31 | 4857079 Van Halen
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This new homeless feeding policy is a major first step in getting rid of undesirables. The 3000 of them running the 330 million of us in this country have everything planned out with them winning everything and us losing everything.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:45 | 4855595 grunk
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With all due respect to the "news," has the country gone insane?

We MUST feed illegals, but we CAN'T care for war vets?

I try to keep up, but this is insanity.

Obama isn'going to last.

Maybe he knows it.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:47 | 4855611 NoDebt
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Yes.  But not without a purpose.  The last thing the "collective" wants is INDIVIDUALS making a difference.  ONLY the collective can be the solution.  Therefore, individual actions, even those that would seem to be almost "natural human behavior" to any compassionate, feeling person (like one-to-one charity) must be fully suppressed.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:10 | 4855686 Anusocracy
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Kinda like how the government treated private assistance during Katrina.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:24 | 4857518 Headbanger
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NoDebt:  That is fucking brilliant!

That one statement says it all about the intent of this government in order for the elites to stay in power.

It's been called the "dumbing down of America" before but I think it's moar like the Borg taking us over now.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 22:13 | 4855692 XitSam
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Not only does the collective need to ensure that the only solution is the collective, but that individuals should not realize there is a solution other than the collective.


Sat, 06/14/2014 - 00:16 | 4855889 Dr. Destructo
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It's not even about helping people or the suppression of individuals "making a difference", it's contempt for the homeless to the point where they would rather sweep them under the rug and build nice condos in order to raise property value. We're seeing some cities transporting homeless outside of the city limits to achieve this.

With us the government can use us as livestock through collection of taxes, but how can you tax the homeless? You can't, so they'll find other ways to make money from them, such as incarcerating them so they can make money for large corporations in the Prison Industrial Complex.

Helping them is the last thing on their mind.

Some cities see it as a giant money sink rather than a problem that needs addressing so they hand it over to the private sector and let them deal with the issue.

They don't want individuals making a difference because it goes against their property value and city beautification schemes. It is a truly sick society that we live in.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 06:22 | 4856142 AnAnonymous
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It's not even about helping people or the suppression of individuals "making a difference", it's contempt for the homeless to the point where they would rather sweep them under the rug and build nice condos in order to raise property value. We're seeing some cities transporting homeless outside of the city limits to achieve this.

Serving the 'american' middle class, serving the 'american'middle class...

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:00 | 4857804 FredFlintstone
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Yep, government has become a business and they "own" the public parks where the homeless hang out. The homeless do not pay taxes. This is kinda like people sitting in Starbucks all day and not buying anything.

The homeless are not paying their protection money/taxes to the mob/government.

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