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Iraq Update: Jihadists Seize 2 More Iraqi Towns; Close To 30 Miles Of Baghdad; Iran Rushes To Help

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While the US scrambles to figure out what the least painful way is to admit yet another humiliating foreign policy defeat, things in Iraq continue to deteriorate as the relentless blitzkrieg unleashed by the ISIS/ISIL Al-Qaeda spin off, which has shocked everyone by its speed and scale, takes two more towns, as it rushes for its target: Baghdad itself.

As Reuters reports, "Islamist rebel fighters captured two more Iraqi towns overnight in a relentless sweep south towards the capital Baghdad in a campaign to recreate a medieval caliphate carved out of fragmenting Iraq and Syria. Thrusting further to the southeast after their lightning seizure of the major Iraqi city of Mosul in the far north and the late dictator Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, ISIL entered two towns in Diyala province bordering Iran. Saadiyah and Jalawla had fallen to the Sunni Muslim insurgents after government troops fled their positions, along with several villages around the Himreen mountains that have long been a hideout for militants, security sources said."

As the following map shows, as of this moment the Al Qaeda extremeists are now just 30 miles away from Baghdad and closing fast, although Iraqi forces may have succeded in halting the advance for now near the town of Samarra.

What the map above also shows is the extensive US presence in the region, one which however as Obama stated yesterday, he is so far unwilling to unleash on the ISIS army.

Obama said military action alone was no panacea against ISIL. He alluded to long-standing Western complaints that Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has done little to heal sectarian rifts that have left many of Iraq's minority Sunnis, cut out of power since Saddam's demise, aggrieved and keen for revenge.


"This should be also a wake-up call for the Iraqi government. There has to be a political component to this," Obama said.


U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assured Maliki by telephone that Washington was prepared to intensify and accelerate its security support. The White House had signaled on Wednesday it was looking to strengthen Iraqi forces rather than meet what one U.S. official said were past Iraqi requests for air strikes.


But fears of jihadist violence spreading may increase pressure for robust international action. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said international powers "must deal with the situation".


In Mosul, ISIL staged a parade of American Humvee patrol vehicles seized from a collapsing Iraqi army in the two days since its fighters drove out of the desert and overran the city.

The parade can be seen in the clip below:

So will Baghdad fall as rapidly as all other cities in the north? For now that appears unlikely:

ISIL and its allies took control of Falluja at the start of the year. It lies just 50 km (30 miles) west of Maliki's office. ISIL has set up military councils to run the towns they captured, residents said. “'Our final destination will be Baghdad, the decisive battle will be there' - that’s what their leader kept repeating," said a regional tribal figure.


The senior U.N. official in Iraq assured the Security Council that Baghdad was in "no immediate danger". The council offered unanimous support to the government and condemned "terrorism".


As with the concurrent war in Syria, the conflict cuts across global alliances. The United States and Western and Gulf Arab allies back the mainly Sunni revolt against the Iranian-backed Syrian President Assad, but have had to watch as ISIL and other Islamists have come to dominate large parts of Syria.


Now the Shi'ite Islamic Republic of Iran, which in the 1980s fought Saddam for eight years at a time when the Sunni Iraqi leader enjoyed quiet U.S. support, may share an interest with the "Great Satan" Washington in bolstering mutual ally Maliki.


The global oil benchmark prices have jumped, as concerns mounted that the violence could disrupt supplies from a major OPEC exporter. Iraq's main oil export facilities are in the largely Shi'ite areas in the south and were "very, very safe", Oil Minister Abdul Kareem Luaibi said.

Until they aren't. As a reminder, ISIS's immediate ambition is to create an independent religious state-entity/caliphate that looks like this:

Which probably is why none other than the country's most senior Shiite cleric urged broad mobilization, telling people across the land to take arms:

A representative of Iraq's most influential Shi'ite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, urged people in a sermon at Friday prayers to take up arms and defend their country from mostly Sunni insurgents.


Sheikh Abdulmehdi al-Karbalai, who was delivering the sermon at prayers in the city of Kerbala, holy to Iraq's majority Shi'ites, said those killed fighting the militants would be martyrs.


"People who are capable of carrying arms and fighting the terrorists in defence of their country... should volunteer to join the security forces to achieve this sacred goal," Karbalai said.


In response, worshippers chanted "Labbeik Ya Hussein", meaning they would act at the behest of Imam Hussein, who is buried in a shrine in Kerbala.

But what virtually assures that it is only a moment of time before the situation spirals out of control is the arrival of Iran troops who are now being sent to guard Baghdad, and fight Al Qaeda:

Reports coming out of security sources in Iran say that two battalions of Quds Force troops from the nation’s Revolutionary Guard have deployed into neighboring Iraq to guard Shi’ite holy sites as well as the capital city of Baghdad. Some have also reportedly taken part in fighting in Tikrit.


The move comes in response to al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) taking most of the country’s Sunni west, and moving dangerously close to Baghdad on multiple fronts. Iraq’s Shi’ite government is on good terms with Iran.


Earlier today, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said his country can’t tolerate the growth of a terrorist group so close to their borders, and promised unspecified aid to the Maliki government.


Iran has already been aiding the Assad government in Syria against AQI’s advances there, albeit without much success. As the problem of this new AQI-run state grows, Iran is likely to try to increase support for its struggling allies, out of whose territory the state is being carved.

More from Reuters, which reports that Iran, a Shiite republic, is so alarmed by Sunni insurgent gains in Iraq that it may be willing to cooperate with Washington in helping Baghdad fight back, a senior Iranian official told Reuters. The idea is being discussed internally among the Islamic Republic's leadership, the senior Iranian official told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official had no word on whether the idea had been raised with any other party.

Officials say Iran will send its neighbor advisers and weaponry, although probably not troops, to help its ally Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki check what Tehran sees as a profound threat to regional stability, officials and analysts say.

Islamist militants have captured swathes of territory including the country's second biggest city Mosul.


Tehran is open to the possibility of working with the United States to support Baghdad, the senior official said.


"We can work with Americans to end the insurgency in the Middle East," the official said, referring to events in Iraq. "We are very influential in Iraq, Syria and many other countries."


For many years, Iran has been aggrieved by what it sees as U.S. efforts to marginalize it. Tehran wants to be recognized as a significant player in regional security.




Rouhani on Thursday strongly condemned what he called violent acts by insurgent groups in the Middle East.


“Today, in our region, unfortunately, we are witnessing violence, killing, terror and displacement," Rouhani said.


"Iran will not tolerate the terror and violence ... we will fight against terrorism, factionalism and violence.”

That's right: as a result of the epic US leftover mess in Iraq, it is now up to its arch nemesis Iran to get in and protect the country from none other than Al-Qaeda. And not only that, but Iran is prepared to work with the "great Statan", America, to defend the middle east from Al-Qaeda!

And to think: this is only the beginning.


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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:14 | 4852007 IridiumRebel
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Get the "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner ready for Fuckbama. I truly believe that he is not only incompetent, but harbors a shear will to destroy the country. He needs to be impeached. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:16 | 4852010 PartysOver
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Never happen.  It would be racist.

I wonder what shape this country will be in when he leaves office.  If he leaves office.  Tyrants and dictators don't go easily.


BTW, was Obama's father Sunni or Shiite?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:20 | 4852016 negative rates
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Create your own desert storm. The only administration worse than this one, will be the next one.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:24 | 4852033 GetZeeGold
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Rambo XVI.......the good guys finally win.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:43 | 4852179 smlbizman
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imho, i think this is probably just what tptb cocksuckers  were hoping for....

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:55 | 4852236 General Decline
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If Iran attacked Turkey from the rear, would Greece help?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:02 | 4852283 old naughty
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"i think this is probably just what tptb cocksuckers were hoping for..."

They don't know how to hope. They plan and execute.

We hope them not!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:05 | 4852299 Stackers
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Cue footage of helicopters evacuating US embassy from roof ....

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:26 | 4852431 Tabarnaque
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So ISIS is backed by the Saudis. ISIS is quickly gaining ground in Iraq against the puppet government installed by wdc. So are the Saudis at war against US assets in Iraq? It doesn't make sense. At least not now.   Is the Iraqi puppet not docile enough for Washington and needs to be recorded that he is there for a purpose?  Maliki is Shiite and has developed closed ties with Iran, probably to the distaste of wdc. So the Saudis financed ISIS is used to slap him in the face. That could make sense.   Can the USSA bomb the Saudis backed ISIS? I can't see that happen. After all the problems they've had in Egypt and Syria I can't see the USSA go to war against the Saudis in Iraq. But the Saudis are at war against Washington's puppet in Iraq (at least that's what we are told...!).   Can Washington let the Saudis install an ISIS/Al-Qaeda regime in Bagdad? Damn, I can't see how they'll sell that to the American public. How would Israel like that?   If Iran comes and save Maliki's day then it will only get these 2 even closer together. However, sectarian violence between the Sunni and Shiite will explode across the country. And how could WDC tell its population that Iran is now pulling the strings in Iraq?!! What a terrible defeat this would be for the neo-cons.   The more I spin the whole situation around and the uglier and stinker it gets. 
Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:38 | 4852494 supersajin
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Iran & Russia will come out ahead here.  Oil will spike, Russia will provide Iran with updated military equipment.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:56 | 4852584 Omen IV
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Saudi Arabia & Qatar -- are the major winners!

i believe this is response to Assad being able to hold on and they dont believe he can be beat - so ISIS takes permanently  the east side of Syria and west side of Iraq and then run the pipline for the gas from SA & Q to Europe

done !

long term i think Israel is the loser once these guys have no  SA sponsor and their own oil revenue  and  million fighters then the end game to drive out the Infidels from Jerusalem


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:11 | 4852624 Manthong
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Mark Levin reported yesterday that the guy who is spearheading the insurgency   is someone we let out of Gitmo in 2009. Now he apparently has a $10 million bounty on his head.

At least we know he found something to keep himself occupied with after we freed him.

I can hardly wait to see what the 5 key Taliban leaders we swapped for the wandering private, er, sergeant now (promoted on release) will do to exact their revenge.

Wandering Private.. could be a musical career opportunity.. atop a minaret.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:39 | 4852773 gh0atrider
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gh0atrider remembers back in 2002, 2003 all of the commentary on how America (a country not three centuries old) needed to go and civilize all the "rag heads" in the birthplace of civilization.

Paybacks a bitch motherfuckers!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:16 | 4852952 economics9698
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We have a cocksucker in the white house who is a Muslim, wtf do you expect?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:19 | 4852980 gh0atrider
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You know... gh0atrider can feel sorry and forgive people who signed up to fight back in 1914.  Maybe they were born on a farm and their home had a single bible and their town had a single telegraph line coming into it.  What are people's excuse nowdays?  If you put on a uniform you know who you serve and you are just a clown who wants to go and kill people who did nothing to you.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:35 | 4853075 economics9698
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Go fuck off.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:37 | 4853090 gh0atrider
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Does the truth hurt?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:48 | 4853160 economics9698
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Does fucking goats, getting married to 8 year olds, and stabbing each other in the ass make you think you have a clue?  Fuck off asshole.  

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:53 | 4853199 gh0atrider
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Ah yes, the "we did it for their own good" cop-out.  I've met American sailors and I have worked with Iranian engineers.  Want to know which were more intelligent?  Keep using the cartel's paper money and wearing their uniforms you simple fuck.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:31 | 4853486 NotAMathWhiz
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The enemy of my enemy is ....  No, wait, the enemy of my friend is my ...  No, wait, this can't be right ...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:32 | 4853500 gh0atrider
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When you've got part-time friends and full-time enemies all around the globe things get confusing.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:43 | 4853113 aardvarkk
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It's more pedestrian than that in my experience.  There are a lot--a LOT--of people who join the military simply to get one or more of the following: 1) the education dollars or OTJ training/experience 2) the retirement plan/benefits or 3) something fun/challenging to do.  When the US isn't in an arguably existential crisis (the last one of those ended arguably in about 1945), the average GI doesn't do it to make some political statement or fight for a cause.  He/she does it for money, experience and fun.  It never enters most of their pretty heads that they might actually, really have to stand there and shoot someone on the face, or pull a trigger that will cause an explosion that will tear 20 people apart who are not enemy soldiers.

Save your ire for the politicians.  Or maybe the bankers.  Those are the ones making it all happen, not a bunch of 19-year-old kids with no money and too many hormones.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:54 | 4853181 gh0atrider
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Sorry, gh0atrider doesn't buy into that cop-out defense, "they told me to do it" or "I did it for the experience".  See Nuremberg.  Maybe 19 year old "kids" with too many hormones should try read a book, study history, visit a library, talk to veterans, become investigators and ask all the right questions?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:24 | 4853439 lincolnsteffens
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Sorry to disagree with you but just because you are well informed don't assume most of the rest of the population in the USA is. Between government schools, gov. ministry of information, complicit corporate news, advertising and political left/right shouting matches,  it is the minority that has any understanding of what the fuck has been going on behind the curtain.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:39 | 4852774 pods
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So Iran is now going to save our bacon in Iraq?

That is double chocolate cheesecake rich.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:04 | 4853768 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Bacon in Iraq?!? Oh, stop it, pods, you're killing me! :)

Truth be told, we never had 'bacon in Iraq'. Whacking Saddam was about Bush 43 taking out Hussein for taking a whack at Bush 41. Oh, and improving shareholder value at Halliburton.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:43 | 4852788 Freddie
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Mark Levin?  Well he backed Brat but he is NWO and you know who he supports.  As far as ISIS - this is McCain, Lindsey Graham, Rubio, Corker, Cantor and the other pro-amnesty AIPAC RINOs liver eaters.  They are McCain's boys.

Levin will go on and on about evil Iran. The same Iran who helped Assad and Syria against the liver eaters.  Assad and the Syrian Army along with Putin also protected Syrian Christians.

Dr. Jim Willie said the USA would dump the scum House of Saud under the bus because their oil fields are shagged out.   Saudis are in tight with China now.   Willie ssaid the USA would pivot to Iran.  Willie also said the USA and UK were stealing all of the Saudis gold in London. 

The Pentagon should seize these criminals and put them all on trial but they are cowards.  Bankster wars where people's kids and innocents die for cash.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:55 | 4852829 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Mark Levin? Is that the same idiot who thinks a constitutional convention is a good idea at this juncture? Yeah... over half the population doesn't understand the principles the country was founded on (hell a third of them don't even understand the language) so they should be given the power to sweep it all away at a new constitutional convention... Brilliant!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:05 | 4852864 Manthong
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Yes, Levin misses it on a few issues,

He still has a bunch of statist bones left in his body but he is no idiot.

He is right at least as much as he is wrong and it is better to have him around than not.

..and you are right, this country is not ready for a Constitutional Convention.

But with another year or so of Obama's immigration travesty, it might never be.



Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:17 | 4852957 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Those people on the radio have a little more freedom to express themselves, but ultimately they tow the state agenda. It is the state that bestows them a license to speak.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:14 | 4853307 Manthong
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There may be an element of truth to that but I believe that mostly they get where they are because their basic views are in line with most of their audience and if the audience is large enough they get sponsors and generate revenue for the station. Again, the problem here is that even a conservative audience is mostly ignorant of the real causes of most of our trouble (greedy , selfish or oblivious  deep state and deep finance and a departure from the Constitution).

That goes for Beck, Limbaugh, Levin and a number of others.

I think the notable exception is Judge Andrew Napolitano, but I do not believe he does anything nowadays except the occasional book, guest appearance or commentary. I don’t think he can stand the system anymore.

And it is interesting to note that my initial comment was not a specific endorsement of Levin (although I kind of like most of his rants) but just that he happened to be the source of the info on the schmuck Obama released in 2009 and is out there leading the Iraq insurgency.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:16 | 4852967 thestarl
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As anyone with even half a functioning brain cell knows Iraq would undoubtedly be the greatest US foreign policy disaster period.

You reap what you sow.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:03 | 4853275 ChiefToledo
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Gitmo detainees released on purpose, for this mission. US is done with the Maliki government (shia) and will now let the Saudi/Qatari (Sunni) establish an aligned regime.

Iranians fighting to stabilize Iraq won't be in Syria. Take a look at the map in the original post. Shouldn't be real hard to figure out what's up, given the US has been ardent Sunni supporters.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:05 | 4852642 CheapBastard
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We are going to have real read faces when they get some rope and pull down Bush & Barry's statues that stands in the City Center.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:13 | 4852941 johngerard
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That pretty much looks like it, doesn't it? Job done. But I would anticipate this is not going to stop at just that plan, but keep going.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:41 | 4852509 TerminalDebt
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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Why blame Obama? This is GWB's fuckup.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:49 | 4852547 DYS
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I can't believe at this stage of the game there are still people who are buying in to the Lef/Right paradigm.



Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:20 | 4852704 Herd Redirectio...
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You got to love when the gov't is encouraging you to DIE for their regime...

But don't worry, you will be a martyr, so its all good!  Don't sit too long and think about it, just go!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:14 | 4852948 johngerard
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Yep, it doesn't exist any more. It's a twentieth century idea that's finished.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:27 | 4853028 redd_green
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Yeah, its pretty sad.  If no place else, especially here on ZH.     Very sad. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:25 | 4853443 Jerk_Store
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believe it......Americans don't want solutions (especially if they require sacrifices). Much easier to play the blame game. Then sit back and enjoy "the kardashians"

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:45 | 4852794 Freddie
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Bushes, Clintons, Obama are the same NWO people. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:55 | 4852577 stoneworker
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I actually asked this question yesterday. It is really hard to understand who is supporting ISIS...right now I think they are a branch of the Saudi Al Qaeda that went rogue, but you could be right it is possible that there is a serious rift between SA and the US and the Saudis decided to take matters into their own hands.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:15 | 4852683 Citxmech
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I guarentee that there is a serious rift between SA and the US.  Probably has bunch to do with Fed policy destroying their reserve holdings and potentially better deals being offered by China and Russia.  Saudis ain't stupid - they can see the writing on the wall too.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:27 | 4852741 Herd Redirectio...
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Once people GET that Saudi Arabia (House of Saud are crypto-Jews and always have been) and Israel are secret allies, they will understand the dynamics of the Middle East much better.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:35 | 4853519 falconflight
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Saudis crypto jews?  You must be an Arab/muslim.  Only Arabs/muttslums utter that slur.  Sick fuck you are...certifiable, just like that Culture of Death you so admire....Islam.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:30 | 4853045 Freddie
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Dr. Jim Willie has been saying this for months.  He said that thge Saudis would be thrown under the bus.  Just now - Iran is offering to help the USA.  Jim Willie predicted this months ago.  The pivot to Iran.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:22 | 4853419 stoneworker
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Ok so I guess the consensus is that ISIS is a purely Saudi operation? Is Qatar somehow involved as well? Is what ISIS doing really against US interests( I really don't see why the US is supports the Maliki government)? I think Iran and Russia are pretty tight they would not like ISIS walking over the Iraqi Shiite governmnet.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:13 | 4852678 Kayman
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"So, are the Saudis at war against US assets in Iraq?" Hell, yes !

These guys all play the long game. Bombing the crap out of people, then running away is the short game. Unfortunately our current fearless leader (and Dubya) cannot grasp the concept that nobody in this dust up likes America.

This is Iran and the Saudis using Syria and Iraq as proxies with Israel stirring the pot as much as it can.

And yes, Putin must piss himself laughing at the Teleprompter in Chief- perhaps a quick phone call to the President of Canada could help tip the balance.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:04 | 4852892 Loose Caboose
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Make that a call to the Prime Minister of Canada. We follow the British model of government.  Although I like the sound of President of Canada. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:07 | 4852839 g speed
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under the bed sheet allies Israel and Saudi Arabia----- (ie ME big oil and big bank intrests) have been running capitol hill US for a long time.  With the US increasingly unwilling to play puppet the whole ME 1982 plan is being changed. 

It is in the intrests of the US to have a stable ME region with a Arabic central power broker to make US policy in the area viable. on the other hand it is in the interest of Israel and the house of Saud to have an unstable ME to facilitate Israeli hedgmony (spell Zionist empire). 

The power that Israel has in the US seats of gov't is unarguable, however this is changing. More and more the evidence from 911 is pointing to an Israeli and Saudi Arabia operation with collution by high ranking (dual citizen) operatives and others within the US gov't. Those in the know (CIA) are in an internal struggle with the NSA (controled by the Mossad --witness the transfer to Israel of purlioned secrets via NSA spy systems). The US  State Dept is a long time supporter of Israeli objectives over US interests.  

The power that the Saudis have over US policy in the ME is also changing. The recent action by the FED and US banking intrests and Wall street which has been tied to the petro dollar and involved huge transfers of wealth from the US to the international banks is receiving back lash as well. The release of "the five" is a slapin the face to Israel and the rejection of the "bomb Syria" directive from Saudi intel is a slap in the face to the Saudis.

The Petro Dollar reserve status is being challange by the BRICS. Athough the Petro status has been a great facilitator of military expantion over the world and directly benifits the Israeli and Saudi plans it has been a disaster for the US. It forced the US (because of reserve status) to export petro dollars to the world and import everthing. the only real export the US has had is dollars and weapon systems. This has had the effect of world arms manufacters race, wars world wide and a debasement of the reserve currency. 


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:47 | 4853150 Duffy Duck
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Do you have any proof that it is Saudi Arabia behind ISIS versus, oh, say, the Israelis?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:48 | 4853151 Duffy Duck
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Do you have any proof that it is Saudi Arabia behind ISIS versus, oh, say, the Israelis?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:28 | 4852440 sodbuster
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Seems to me, if the goal and mission has boiled down to defendng one city, you have already lost.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:53 | 4852649 HardAssets
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Since the end of WW2 there have been efforts by those in USA 'leadership' positions to get America into quagmires that only end up slowly destroying our own country. Korea, Vietnam, etc, etc - and now this mess.

Is this stupidity or treason ? 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 15:57 | 4854632 FeralSerf
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It's been working pretty well for Lockheed, Boeing, and their ilk. Large military operations are good for oil sales too. Many of those operation affect who gets the money for those oil sales as well.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:29 | 4852434 FreeNewEnergy
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Yes, grease, or KY, or whatever lubricant was handy, would help.

Silly question, actually. You already knew the answer.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:59 | 4853247 V in PA
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Molasses and rock salt for you!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:13 | 4852673 DanDaley
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No, if you're going to get attacked from the rear, the Greeks would prefer to do the attacking.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:24 | 4852052 Broken_Trades
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What a stupid map.  There is no ISIS operational presence in Kurdistan.  Then it shows the green arrows of the kurds advancing (THROUGH THEIR OWN COUNTRY?) towards Kirkuk?  The pesh were already looking after Kirkuk, and just moved accross the city when the IA ran away.

Better info to be had here:

So much misreporting going on here.  The stratfor map from eysterday put Sulayman Beg where Kalar is.  Way off.  What about the green line?

I write this ~15 kms from Kifri.  Business as usual in Kurdistan except all of the AS Aish and Pesh have been mobilized to the front lines.



Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:26 | 4852063 GetZeeGold
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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:41 | 4852166 gh0atrider
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I guess all those simple-minded fucks who died serving under Dubya died in vain then?  Fuck em' it's what happens when you serve Satan and the NWO.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:14 | 4852358 Almost Solvent
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And don't forgot those who died (and continue to die) serving under Obama.


A clusterfuck by any other name is still a clusterfuck.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:23 | 4853009 economics9698
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Goyim dying for the tribe.  

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:19 | 4852385 sleigher
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I down arrowed you.  Even though I agree on satan and NWO, I think we should respect the dead.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:42 | 4852512 Kirk2NCC1701
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The dead are dead and have no need for our 'respect".
Showing respect for the living (to those who deserve it) is more useful and appropriate.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:21 | 4852995 economics9698
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Never fight for the tribe.  Kill the mother fuckers.  The tribe is the enemy that needs to die.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:24 | 4852996 economics9698
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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:42 | 4852514 gh0atrider
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Including all the women and children who died in air attacks or had their doors kicked in, abducted and murdered by US forces?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:05 | 4852643 sleigher
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We shouldn't be doing that in the first place.  We shouldn't be doing any of it or even be involved in foreign wars.  Defense should be just that.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:24 | 4852722 Herd Redirectio...
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Its like the police/riot squad who justify EVERYTHING by saying "At least my men went home safe."

Yeah, and what about the public you SUPPOSEDLY serve?  Beaten up, thrown in jail, shot, dead by friendly fire, flashbangs, SWAT raids....

People are getting hurt, but that gets ignored because "Everyone went home safe."  Everyone?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:44 | 4852522 TerminalDebt
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We should send some more to die in vain so we can honor them

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:42 | 4852517 dock3511
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I am one of them. Fuck You. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:59 | 4852554 DYS
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I am one of them, too.   Don't you feel manipulated and deceived for your love of country by those who have sold you a war based on lies?    I will never feel the same about "patriotism" and that's not necesarily a bad thing.   I still love my country and my people, but it's not a blind, sugar-coated, propaganda based love of country as it was before.   Today, having lived outside the US for many years now, the love I have is much more profound and real.    I will not allow myself blind allegiance to anything, ever again.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:06 | 4852645 corporatewhore
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ask the generation who suffered through the lies of Viet Nam if they'd let their kids get suckered by their government?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:13 | 4852675 DYS
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I don't know what feels worse... "kidnapped" by the draft or maniuplates with your love.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:10 | 4852918 Loose Caboose
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So true.  Indoctrination of any kind requires the indoctrinated to shut off the reasoning part of their brain and replace it with a chip programmed to do what ever the program requires of them.  It makes one less than human.  Fuck patriotism.  Fuck nationalism.  Fuck the NWO. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:36 | 4852761 gh0atrider
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I am one of them. Fuck You.


You died serving under Dubya?  How is the internet down there in hell?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:27 | 4852738 newworldorder
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Thats sick. We know the score reading this site.

There are patriots left who sign up for military duty. Perhaps believing in something that no longer exists, but never the less still patriotic. Everybody in uniform is someones child, brother or sister. The American people and politicians have outsourced this duty to the volunteers only, so that you can say "fuck em." Until you get one of your family members drafted and going against their will, your comments are irrelevant and insulting to those in uniform

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:38 | 4853002 gh0atrider
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If you put on a uniform in any western nation now, you know who you serve.  You don't get the "patriotism" hall pass.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:30 | 4853046 Monty Burns
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Fuck em' it's what happens when you serve Satan and the NWO.


Problem is, most of the dupes thought they were fighting for flag and country.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:41 | 4852172 dontgoforit
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Obama's hope is that these ISIS will keep on marching through Iran without blinking.  I believe that's the plan.  WWIII coming right up.  Russia won't let Iran go down so easy.  Obama is the Anti-Christ (at least the latest/greatest iteration of anti-Christ).

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:47 | 4852199 the not so migh...
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Obama is too stupid, but he probably works for him

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:48 | 4852546 Joe Davola
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Judging from his CV, it's hard to claim he's worked a day in his life.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:21 | 4852693 Arius
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you can say anything about his commitments (to erade poverty etc.), his views (liberal, socialist etc.), his nationality etc.

BUT DONT YOU DARE say he has not worked a day in his life !!!

He has gone through so much, through so many sleepless nights worked so hard to serve this country!

It is people like you, who have not worked a day on their life and expect EVERYTHING to be solved by the President.  Grow up ... and more importantly work something yourself dont expect the government to do everything!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:43 | 4852787 Zerozen
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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:19 | 4852698 Citxmech
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This is WWIII guys.  It's not going to be a war that starts with a big cohesive bang - but be the gradual escalation of regional conflicts for resources all over the globe. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:25 | 4852727 Herd Redirectio...
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Starting to remind me of the 30 Years War.  Just one big clusterfuck, going on and on and on...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:14 | 4852950 Loose Caboose
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My thoughts as well.  This is it.  It has all the makings of the biggest war, in a tinderbox where it can all come to a nice ripe head.  Everyone's invited.  Everyone will show up.  Yup.  This is it.  We can stop wondering.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:45 | 4852188 MarkAntony
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Correct assessment.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:05 | 4852302 conscious being
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Here's some misreporting for you. "Iran has already been aiding the Assad government in Syria against AQI’s advances there, albeit without much success."


Hate to break it to Reuters, but Assad is winning.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:54 | 4852572 disabledvet
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This is what this hopelessly Zionist hatchet job of a piece simply can't even accede to now.

It's the Jews and Saudis...the ones who attacked us on 9/11...that are behind this. How these clowns don't get wiped out is beyond me.

Great news for Assad...Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas.

We'll see about the USA because the Zionist media has been spreading a ridiculous disinformation campaign for so long only they can believe its true.

The idea of a "Saudi/Jewish" alliance is prima facie ridiculous anyways.

Again...a feckless Adminstration says to me "attack on all fronts" and indeed saying "I know I should do something here" sure sounds like a green light to me.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:37 | 4853091 Monty Burns
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the Zionist media has been spreading a ridiculous disinformation campaign for so long only they can believe its true.


Dunno about that. I think most people still believe what's programmed into their brains, especially if you extend the definition to includeHollywood and TV drama.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:46 | 4853584 FeralSerf
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How do you know the Saudis attacked us on 9-11? The Saudis appear to have only supplied a few patsies or patsy passports. Maybe it was the Bushes, Cheney and the Three Letter Acronyms (CIA, FBI, NSA, ATF, ETC). Have you seen any CREDIBLE investigations?

The Israelis have not been ruled out as suspects so far.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:21 | 4852405 Billy Sol Estes
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I wonder if ESRI's ArcDesktop has a geo-political shit show themed symbology set for stuff like this?

Dangermond is in bed with the .gov agencies at every trade show they host.

The error on the map is probably them using the wrong projection for that part of the globe.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:40 | 4852164 Mark Urbo
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Give Obama another Nobel Peace prize for his wondrous foreign policy and all the good it has accomplished in the Middle East ! //sarc

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:27 | 4852742 Kayman
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How about another road show to Cairo explaining the "new" America. Hope and Change. Change you can believe in.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:00 | 4852269 nickels
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"Can't anybody here play this game??"

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:31 | 4853050 Crazed Weevil
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The fate of any government is to be viewed with nostalgia...and that is so fucking depressing

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:21 | 4852028 IridiumRebel
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Well to all the people who think they will be able to control an American uprising, all one has to do is look at the failure of this shit show. This administration couldn't corral a dead hen. He decides to stay, you will see a nasty conflagration within our borders. He needs to be impeached. This is ridiculous now. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:35 | 4852131 chapaev's ghost
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Ridiculous as in:


Who does the US hate more, Iran or Assad?

Who is more a natural US ally in Iraq, Iran or Assad?

Who hates Israel more, Iran, Assad, or ISIS?

Who does the US hate more, ISIS in Iraq, or ISIS in Syria?

Who gets more Libyan arms, supplied by the US and Hitlery, Al Qaeda in Syria, or Al Qaeda in Iraq?

Who hates Al Qaeda more, the US or Iran?

Who does Netanyahu hate more, Obama or Iran?

Who does Obama hate more Netanyahu or Putin?

Who thinks he has more breathing room now, Putin because of Iraq, or Obama because of Ukraine?




Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:40 | 4852159 IridiumRebel
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Who created all of this fuckery? America or the USA?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:52 | 4852566 Chupacabra-322
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The Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Thats who.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:11 | 4852929 A82EBA
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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:20 | 4852703 SofaPapa
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"He needs to be impeached. This is ridiculous now. "

I have repeated this mulitple times now, so sorry for the repetition, but it's important.  Impeachment suggests that this is about Obama.  It's not.  The entire US government system fundamentally supports American intervention in these conflicts.  The "debate" is all show.  Getting rid of the figurehead will make no difference whatsoever.

The beginning of your comment is closer to where this is trending...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:20 | 4852032 DaddyO
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What Country?

Obummer's Muslim upbringing dictates an all or nothing scorched earth worldview.

What you are, is what you were when you were value programmed.

Human values are usually set by the age of 10, where was Obummer when he was ten?

Nothing left but chaos at the end of his reign.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:21 | 4852038 IdeasRbulletproof
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Puppets come, puppets go. Then we can blame the national debt, threats to national security, and other dirt on the next one. Something like a merry-go-round yeah?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:40 | 4853551 FeralSerf
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Who is Obama's, (aka Soetoro) father? Seen any DNA (or CIA) results?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:17 | 4852015 Buckaroo Banzai
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So, Obama is a Sunni Muslim, and the rebels are Sunnis, right?

I think we know how this is going to end.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:21 | 4852040 GetZeeGold
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OK....I don't think you can actually say that.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:43 | 4852789 Kayman
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Tony Blair came out of the closet and disclosed who he plead allegiance to; once he got out of office.

Wouldn't it be a gas to have Obama declare he was faking it all along.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:42 | 4852174 the not so migh...
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i think he is just a putz

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:07 | 4852208 what's that smell
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i got a boko haram stuck in my jihad so i went to the al-qaeda and took a large sunni-shiite and wiped my osama with a putin.

did i miss anything? 

"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." bush the lesser.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:21 | 4852988 Loose Caboose
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I've never seen a more appropriate username for a comment.  Open a window, please.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:37 | 4852490 Town Crier
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Saddam on a billboard with the caption, "Miss me yet?"

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:20 | 4852025 Winston Churchill
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It will have to be written in Farsi.

Strange bedfellows indeed.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:00 | 4852609 disabledvet
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Not really. I can't speak to the House of Saud but "simply throw the Jews under the bus and everyone is your friend" over there.

Who your friends are over here is an interesting concept. It ain't the Jew Cantor that's fer sure.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:39 | 4852771 Kayman
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America has no friends in the Middle East; just people who like to use her.

What does it cost to keep the oil shipping lanes open ?  How much oil comes to the U.S.? And what is the cost per barrel ? I bet the answer would make the average person puke.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:23 | 4852047 kridkrid
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He has no "will" to destroy or build anything. He serves at the behest of powerful people... just like W, Bill, GHWB, RR, JC, Etc. He's doing his job. He's advanced the structure of our turnkey totalitarian state and has moved the ball on WWIII. The fuse is lit and the dollar will soon implode. All bets are off after that.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:27 | 4852080 bobnoxy
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Do you think Bush should have been impeached for starting the whole mess under bogus circumstances? I mean, I hate to defend Obama, and I never voted for him, but it wasn't him that started and fucked the whole thing up.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:34 | 4852123 IridiumRebel
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Oh bull shit. I hated Bush. I thought he should have been removed too after starting this shit show, but guess who has the control now. If i own a car and the fucking clutch goes out, do I blame the former owner? No....I fix the son of a bitch. Come on man.....Yes Bush started it. This is Obama's clusterfuck now. Ridiculous.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:53 | 4852214 bobnoxy
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I think you missed the part where the Iraqis told us to get out. Which brilliant control option did Obama have at his disposal then that he failed to use? Good grief, you pin this all on the guy who walked into that hornet's nest as it was nearing the end that even Bush's timetable determined?

Was the whole thing going oh so swell when Obama got into office, then he fucked it up?

Obama could be the biggest disappointment vs. expectations in modern Amerian history. But pinning this all on him is stupid.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:04 | 4852292 IridiumRebel
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Reread the part where I say Bush should have been removed too. PUT EM' ALL ON TRIAL. Cheney, Wolfowitz...Couple thousand folks at least need to be thrown in jail forever for crimes against humanity. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:10 | 4852332 bobnoxy
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And Rumsfeld, Condi and Powell too? Maybe a little Fredo and Feith for good measure?

Well...okay then.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:21 | 4852400 IridiumRebel
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Make that list and we will check it twice...


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:48 | 4852191 bigkahuna
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Line them all up. They all belong in jail with bubba. Not SW - the real bubba.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:01 | 4852616 disabledvet
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Actually "Hitler's madness" might need a meddle of honor here.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:24 | 4852422 Duffy Duck
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Obama is his puppet and this sort of Muslim on Muslim bloodletting is precisely what you'd expect from a team for which the first Chief of Staff was the son of a Irgun terrorist and Mossad agent.

worth a read, son:

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:33 | 4852466 Eyeroller
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Stocks off and running into the green this morning. 

Only a black swan will bring this rigged thing down.

Same with Teflon Barry:  the republicans have no spine to impeach a black man.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:51 | 4852556 Kirk2NCC1701
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He's Mulatto.

Given that he's half white, you could just ad arbitrarily say he's white.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:12 | 4852669 newworldorder
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He may be half white, but he has declared himself a black man. Read his book. So have the Attorney G and the Dir of Homeland.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:13 | 4852676 Mitzibitzi
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See which angle gets you labelled as a racist by the establishment, though! It's very convenient for TPTB to have a figurehead that you can't openly criticise without VERY carefully walking a fine line between genuine critical comment and riffing on the guy because he's 'black', though.

Obviously, the truth is it wouldn't matter if he was lily white (or the offspring of a Klingon and a green Orion slavegirl, for that matter) but possessed of the same personality. A slimy, manipulative shill for the establishment is the same, no matter how you dress him up.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:40 | 4852623 Kirk2NCC1701
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Actually, it's all going according to plan, in spite of the public "bungling" that's part of the Grand Deception:

1. KSA want a Caliphate state carved out of Iraq and Syria.

2. Nuttynhayoo and his Global Zionist ilk at home and in the US want the whole region of MENA to fragment into tiny states -- that are busy fighting each other.  Good for the MIC, banks, Nuttynyahoo.

3. Politicians (Obama etc) are "dispensable" for TPTB.

p.s. to my 10:02 AM posting... This situation also embroils Iran.  If they do nothing, they have a Sunni enemy-state on their doorstep.  If they oppose it, they are drawn closer to the US.  Either way, it's good for Israel.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:16 | 4852691 DanDaley
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Don't impeach; indict!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:00 | 4852860 Canadian Dirtlump
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|We're falling for a media / government canard here. This is a political issue much more than military. ISIS has stormed a path in the face of calling ahead to shaykhs from towns and saying "tell the cops and army to lay down their arms or we'll kill them." Then they do just that. It is clear maliki has lost political credibility with much of the moderate sunni populace and this (relatively ) small number of well organized and virulent mongoloids are there to fill the gap.


The MSM is ably peddling this canard by posting the month old ISIS highlight reel where they are doing drive bys and executions of army / police / political officials who they have stalked as fresh footage. ISIS has more than its hands full in Syria and the idea that they could break off part of their crew and suddenly take over IRAQ at will with a small number of men on a military scale is lunacy. There is much more to this.


Now we have the established narrative that ISIS somehow stole half a billion from a city central bank replete with an indeterminate amount of gold bullion, and helicopters and heavy weapons? They have helicopter pilots? Trained by whom.


This is a make it happen or let it happen on the part of some neo con cabal in my view as what will eventually be a pretext to intervene in the folowing regards:


1) Iran is moving in to help iraq and we can't have that

2) Iraq is falling and we need to protect it

3) ISIS can't be allowed to have a base of operation in iraq

4) We need to intervene in syria on behalf of "moderate rebels" who "al CIAda" now qualifies as because ISIS could take over Syria


THen we have the ghost of joe biden's ghastly hairline coming back about turning iraq into 3 micro states.


It is a fairy tale with a grain of truth. The Standing Iraqi army and the Kurds could liquidate ISIS. Hell, it comes out that the US has been covertly flying drones in Iraq the whole time. You don't think thay they could have engaged the convoys of ISIL?


Gimme a break. These Saudi funded savages exist all around the world because there isn't sufficient political will to make them not exist ( despite the pathological rhetoric) which begs some mind bending questions. Mainly why not?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:31 | 4853048 kellycriterion
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Ok assholes, you try managing a global empire with mercs and proxies and let's see how you do.

But, but our mercs are an alphabet soup of supermen. They're invincible. Just like every thugocracy in history. Strangely the Sumersupermen(whatever they called themselves) don't rule the world. It's almost like there's a subtle flaw somewhere. It's all so mysterious.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 11:34 | 4853071 redd_green
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IridiumRebel must watch a lot of Western TV.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 12:52 | 4853633 Winston Smith 2009
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"Get the "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" banner ready for Fuckbama."

This is a completely bipartisan screw-up by both parties. The US withdrew from Iraq because the Iraqis refused to allow immunity for US forces for any deaths or injuries in their status of forces agreement, so the US was forced to leave. Pols in the US, of course, spun it as "we won, time to leave." Now that's biting them in their stupid asses for the nth time due to something called "blowback."

The moronic religious fanatics (sorry for that redundant term) in that area of the world apparently NEED dictators to keep them in line. Large bribes in the right tyrant hands costing 1/100th of the 3 trillion we're due to eventually spend on these fiascoes would have likely produced vastly better results for US interests and, for the most part, the interest of Middle Eastern populations, too. Much better than sectarian civil wars and ethnic cleansing anyway. After all, Iraq used to be a fairly modern and prosperous country as these Middle Eastern shit holes go.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:15 | 4852008 PartysOver
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Can the USSA Gov't screw it up any worse.  This is so incredibly not good.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:19 | 4852023 Jayda1850
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The level of incompetence leads me to believe they are not screwing anything up and this is all going to plan. They can't all be this stupid. Cloward-Piven is my guess.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:21 | 4852036 CH1
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They can't all be this stupid.

Stunning, I know, but yeah, they really can.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:23 | 4852046 Winston Churchill
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Just from serendipity they should get at least one thing right.

You have to start thinking its deliberate.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:30 | 4852100 bobnoxy
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It was deliberate. There's a lot more money to be made in long, messy wars.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:34 | 4852121 Jayda1850
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Especially when you arm both sides.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:52 | 4852224 dontgoforit
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And you have weaponry that no one else has.  Weaponry that gives you a distinct and guaranteed win capability against all 'known' enemy weaponry.  I believe what Reagan started has been relatively perfected and can be used to defray any enemy advances against America.  So, in the end, let the ME blow itself apart.  Let the Ruskies get in the middle of it - let any damnbody get involved.  When you've got three aces up your two sleeves, you basically hold all the cards.  There are other more specific reasons the Russians have been putting subs in the Gulf of Mexico, off the shores of NY and CA and flying nuclear-capable bombers within 50 miles of our coastline.  Something is afoot - it just isn't clear if Obama is with us, the U.S., or them, the Russians.  I'd say it's a 50/50 proposition from what I've seen.  The invasion from the south is also part of the agenda and Cloward-Piven is surely in action.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 08:27 | 4852071 Jayda1850
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Yeh, I'm probably giving them more creditt than they deserve, but the quickening pace of obvious missteps in a multitude of areas reeks of more than sheer coincidence. Everyday its a new clusterfuck one right on top of another. We don't even have time to digest and investigate before another bombshell blows the last one off the front page.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 09:14 | 4852258 bigkahuna
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RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

 RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)

not saying Beck is always the most spot on - but here is a quick listing of the "rules"

Three guesses who the "enemy" is and the first two don't count...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 10:21 | 4852711 flapdoodle
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The "quickening pace" is straight out of John Boyd's playbook - rapid changes with no time to react before the next change is upon you.

Its not true that "Putin is playing chess and Obama is playing checkers". Putin is playing chess with the Zionists while Obama is off playing golf or being fudgepacked by  Reggie.

...and it would appear that the Zionists are setting the pace, even if their moves don't seem to be working out very well (e.g. Putin is up in Ukraine, up in Syria, the Zionists are up in the US turning it into a Police state, Zionists are up in Iraq but lets see how it plays out)

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