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Irony: George H. W. Bush Is Heading Toward Iraq... The Aircraft Carrier, That Is

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Yesterday, when we presented the latest US naval update, focusing on the distribution of US aircraft carriers around the world and particularly in the middle east, we summarized that "America, which historically has had a far greater naval presence in the middle east, is quite unprepared for the recent dramatic resurgence of Al Qaeda splinter groups. Expect at least one more aircraft carrier to depart in direction Iraq shortly."

 

Turns out "shortly" meant less than one day. Per IBT:

The U.S. aircraft carrier George H.W. Bush is being moved to the Persian Gulf in case President Barack Obama authorizes airstrikes in Iraq, CNN reported Friday.

 

Iraq is in turmoil after an al Qaeda offshoot, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, made advances this week in the north and north-central portions of the country, including the seizure of Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city.

 

On Thursday, Obama said he was mulling all options on Iraq, saying, "I don't rule anything out." His spokesman, Jay Carney, later clarified, saying the president is not considering putting troops on the ground.

Here is "George H.W. Bush", aka CVN-77 - note, this is not the president who just celebrated his 90th birthday by jumping out of a plane.

It won't be enough: we expect at least CVN-71 Teddy Roosevelt to start making its way toward Iraq in the next few days.

Why is the US scrambling to dispatch aircraft carriers toward Iraq? Because as the Daily Beast reports, if Obama changes his mind, U.S. jets could be flying over Iraq in less than a day.

U.S. air bases, housing dozens of American fighters and bombers, are well within striking distance of Iraq. High-flying spy drones like the Global Hawk can just as easily fly over Iraq as Afghanistan or any other conflict zone in the region. The aircraft carrier U.S.S. George H.W. Bush is a few days’ sail away, in the North Arabian Sea. And it boasts dozens more fighters on board.

 

That’s why a number of retired high-ranking U.S. Air Force officers, including Lt. Gen. David Deptula, who served as the Air Force’s first deputy chief of staff for intelligence, say any strikes, if ordered, could begin almost immediately.

 

“If you can provide me with the appropriate intelligence we can start doing (air strikes) within 24 hours,” he told The Daily Beast. “There are a variety of means do this, whether you are talking about long-range, high-payload aircraft or smaller aircraft. With the requisite intelligence information you can start again in 24 hours.”

 

“No question we could strike anytime,” added a second senior retired Air Force officer, who asked not to be quoted by name. He saw no “tech or logistical” reasons why air assets couldn’t be diverted from Afghanistan to Iraq.

 

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Deptula said—but would not specify—that the Air Force was capable of launching air strikes into Iraq from bases it uses in neighboring countries. Those bases include an airbase in Incirlik, Turkey, the hub of U.S. air operations in the 1990s that patrolled the air space of northern Iraq. After U.S. troops left Iraq in 2011, many of the drones, sensors and other surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft used in Iraqi bases were transferred to Incirlik.

 

Another air base that could be used for these operations is Al-Udeid, west of Doha, Qatar. Al-Udeid served as the center for the air campaigns during the height of the Iraq and Afghan wars. The base is still used for some of air missions over Afghanistan and houses B1-bombers, a long range aircraft that can deliver up to 48,000 pounds of bombs in a single sortie.

So yes, if the US wanted to launch a destructive assault against the extremist branch of Al Qaeda, it could, and probably would wipe out the bulk of its armed force in short notice.

However, that assumes the US actually wanted to wipe out ISIS/ISIL: after all it has been arming this particular group of jihadists operating in Syria for a long time, which begs the question: just what is ISIS' carefully cultivated (by the CIA and US State Department) strategic long-term role when it comes to Iraq in particular and the middle east in general.

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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:29 | 4853961 lordylord
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Give that man a another peace prize.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:31 | 4853969 So Close
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Why send your kids when you can send your name sake instead?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:33 | 4853990 lordylord
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Another example of government intervention making a situation worse.  Maybe more government intervention will work this time.  I don't see how anyone can support government unless you are a leech of society or have a IQ below 70.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:40 | 4854025 Raymond K Hessel
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So does this mean the Theodore Roosevelt is getting ready to attack Virginia?

 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:42 | 4854034 knukles
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The NY Times Says:

War is Good

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/upshot/the-lack-of-major-wars-may-be-h...

Neo_Krugmanian Goodness from the Mouthpiece of the Libtard Progressive Party

Get ready to rummmmmmmmmmble!

And so what shows up?
USS G W H Bush en-route to Iraqi waters.
Booyah mpotherfuckers

Don't fucking tell me this ain't all planned

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:44 | 4854060 12ToothAssassin
Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:56 | 4854115 Spine01
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Don't believe the MSM messages for a split second, the US knew and has known for a long time of ISIS and their intentions and brutality.

This goes a lot deeper. Remember that IRAk's president refused to sign the agreement with the USA.

If they don't touch oil resources, they may be allowed to do a lot. If they touch them, then all hell will break loose. But they know that and they are not stupid.

What happens with Iran's interests and Russian's Interests if ISIS takes over most of Iran and allows oil to keep on flowing? Who wins the chess game?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:16 | 4854184 simplejack
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Does anyone want to know why the soldier suicide rate is so high?

 

From an article in the Guardian, 3 April 2014 titled,
"Fort Hood shooting raises questions over high suicide rate among veterans"

"One highly respected institution, in spite of intensive research, had to admit this year that the root causes of military suicides remained unknown."

LINK
[link to www.theguardian.com



"As a former US Marine who was in both Iraq and Afghanistan I can tell you why.

I have been through massive bouts of depression. On and off of VA prescribed Anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds, sleeping pills, you name it. I became a major alcoholic and was hospitalized at one point when I didn't drink alcohol for one day. I went into seizures from withdraw. 

I contemplated suicide on a weekly basis. I would put my gun to my head but never had to balls to pull the trigger. I knew how much it would destroy my mother. 

When you make major sacrifices in your life you absolutely NEED a reason for those sacrifices. The government spends HUGE money convincing the troops the sacrifice they're making is for the freedom of their families and the future generations. We were convinced, as were most Americans that our existence was in danger and that that danger lie in the Middle East. 

We saw the brutalities of war. It's something you must experience to understand. It will change you forever. I don't find joy in anything anymore. How can I? I sacrificed my sanity. It would have been ok, and justified, if I had something to hinge it on. If I sacrificed my sanity for my family or because my country was actually in danger I could go on and be Ok. It was all a lie though. It turns out our government is our real enemy.

I gave up my Wife.. (she left me). I gave up my soul. I did this all for a lie. 9-11 was a hoax. WMD in Iraq was a hoax. My soul was sacrificed for some perverse reason... a lie that we will never fully understand.

When you give everything up for something and that something turns out to be a huge lie... you are left with an empty shell. Your soul is gone. But still you are trapped and suffering and you just want to end it.

So no, they will never understand why we veterans are killing ourselves. It can't be measured with a scale or observed in a test tube. It is spiritual. 

We were BETRAYED by our government. LIED to. Murdered innocent people in the name of lies. Now we are spiritually dead. We just want the suffering to stop. Suicide is often the last resort.. But believe me, we've tried everything in between.

I've since gotten off all pharmaceuticals and alcohol. I still feel like ending it all from time to time but know better. It's something I'll just have to live with. 

Thanks for listening."

 

 


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:29 | 4854281 MansaMusa
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Have you tried medical marijuana?  I mean before you off yourself, try it and see if it helps.

Unfortunately my friend, we were all duped by the lying gov't and their cartel. Fuck em!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:29 | 4854282 MansaMusa
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Have you tried medical marijuana?  I mean before you off yourself, try it and see if it helps.

Unfortunately my friend, we were all duped by the lying gov't and their cartel. Fuck em!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:43 | 4854347 wtf1369
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That's why the man wants us when we're young, we're still easily duped. The real fuckers are the ones with the shiny birds or stars on their collars cause they know the score and they see the faces of those young devil dogs every day. Fuckers. I hope you find a good woman and peace. Semper Fi man.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:58 | 4854408 anonnn
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new simplejack--by your ability to confront your own truths, you gain integrity, i.e. your wholeness.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and valuable insights. My bestest wishes for an expanding and winning future.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 15:23 | 4854529 simplejack
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they were not my words.  I quoted from the article linked (text is in quotes).

 

it made me sad and i thought others might want to read it to maybe understand things a bit better.  it made me think.

 

does it make you think?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:12 | 4854189 Headbanger
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Oh fuck this shit!

NUKE EM ALL NOW AND GIT'ER DONE!

 

Cause you mooks can anal-ize it all you want and they're still just a bunch of fucking shit balls there who need to be evaporated the sooner the better.

 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:10 | 4855235 loonyleft
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nukes cause evaporation? 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 15:07 | 4854442 TeethVillage88s
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Winning! Let's see if we want to start a war with Iran for our buddies in IS-Rael, then perhaps we can lure the Persians across the border in to Iraq.

IRAQ as Bait for Persians??? Looming reason to Attack Iran??

Then we can simply claim they are Annexing Territory in an Aggressive Plan. Perhaps we will even accuse Iran of the ISIS/ISIL Insurgency citing 1) Funding for terror 2) Technology Transfer 3) Agreement to allow ISIS recognition as an Iraqi Muslim Nation 4) Economic Support for a Newly formed Nation of Islamic Iraq... as motivations for an Iran Deal with ISIS/ISIL

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/13/us-iraq-security-iran-idUSKBN0...

US Spy Masters may look Dumb, but it is not just Military Intelligence, you have Think Tanks, Rand, Former PNAC NEO-CONS, and you have the collective brains of the Western Elites.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:45 | 4854061 knukles
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Go Exotic Places You've Never Been, Meet New and Interesting Different Brown People, Kill Them All, Lay Waste to Their Lands, Rob them of Their Gold and Oil while Taking Diversity and Inclusiveness Courses on the Ship's Fantail between Bombing Sorties.

Fuck me....

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:02 | 4854148 Oracle 911
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They don't get permission to enter into the Persian gulf, the Saudis and Iran wont allow that. (I know they are actually Oman and Iranian waters, but we know who is the bigger dog. Yep,China freshly appointed guard of SA and Iran.)

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:42 | 4854996 RaceToTheBottom
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Bush senior is getting a dose of Karma to deal with.

He chose not to go to Bagdad back in his day.

This caused a misguided drunk of a son to go fight the foe of his father.

Followed by a populist president not having the skills to extricate himself from the war.

All leading to a aircraft carrier with a former CIA leader/president entering the war.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:38 | 4855582 Falling Down
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You forgot sexual harassment and sensitivity training (both mandeated by DoD).

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:01 | 4854047 simplejack
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they woulddn't let me into the Military.

 

they didn't like the questions I asked.

 

 

 

and I didn't like their answers.

 

 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:41 | 4854027 Buckaroo Banzai
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BUSH'S FAULT!!!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:38 | 4854014 tempo
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We only care about the oil and the arms sales. why stop the killing of 1 group willing to kill another group of extremist? We profit by arming both groups? Who cares as long as the largest oil fields are in S Iraq which we will protect. We care nothing about the people or the sand.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:57 | 4854118 Smegley Wanxalot
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I'm glad to know McCain can tell who the good guys are. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:34 | 4853966 Dr. Engali
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I guess the amount of lives you destroy is what determines the size and type of vessel that bares your name. I wonder what Zero's flagship will be after this is all said and done. Based on his relationship with reggie Love it will probably be a dinghy.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:38 | 4854004 Mark Urbo
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O-Hole should have a barge named after him that hauls shit around...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:50 | 4854069 knukles
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....garbage scow tender....

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:49 | 4854083 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Naming things after living people is not a good idea.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:51 | 4854089 knukles
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USS Stompy Feet?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:08 | 4854182 Buckaroo Banzai
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I would love to see Obama christen our next carrier the USS Bush's Fault.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 16:14 | 4854701 SAT 800
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It's embarrassing to live in a country fucked up enough to have a major ship named after GHW Bush. A silver spoon in mouth frat. boy; a water carrier and errand boy for the oligarchs; never had an original thought in his head in his life. Bleehh.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 16:27 | 4854739 lordylord
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It's only so libtards can still blame Bush.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:30 | 4853968 Itchy and Scratchy
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Her's an idea for the fearless leadership to save a few 100 billion a year : Keystone XL pipeline!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:31 | 4853977 disabledvet
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I fail to see the irony.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:39 | 4854013 i_call_you_my_base
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I kind of agree. In truth Bush41 was smart enough not to get bogged down there. He chose not to go to baghdad, and stated outright what would happen, which is what's happening now. I hate Bush41, but at least he didn't Bush43 Iraq. Unless that's the irony?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:05 | 4854166 Kassandra
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Something about apples and trees...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:34 | 4853992 JRobby
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The game of filth and destruction accelerating now. Easy to see what it means.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:37 | 4853995 lolmao500
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Funny some reports are saying that Obama is considering strikes on SYRIA too...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/13/obama-urgent-air-assault-is...

Obama 'urgently' considering air assault on targets in Syria and Iraq
Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:41 | 4854024 tarsubil
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Aha. Now that would bring everything into focus. This might turn out to be another case of assets getting a little out of hand.

But hey, if you want to make an omelet in DC, you've got to murder a lot of innocent people.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:43 | 4854046 Meat Hammer
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Ok, now that's funny.  The people won't go for a war in Syria so let's just say our interests in Iraq are being threatened and then just bomb the Iraq-ish/Syria-ish area.  

 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:45 | 4854062 lolmao500
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Yup. Al-CIAda is in Syria, we've got to bomb them... ooo we bombed Assad forces and we missed ISIS? Our bad! And if they retaliate, well... they are evil and we must invade Syria too.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:57 | 4854117 Non Passaran
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It's a new trend - environmentally responsible bombing. Take off once, bomb 2 countries, refuel, repeat.
Less CO2 per every human killed.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:41 | 4854007 yogibear
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Oh my USS George Bush. 

The USS William Clinton.

Just imagine  shortly the USS Barack Obama.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060315/060315_dutch_...

 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:42 | 4854036 Raymond K Hessel
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The USS Obama will be a floating hospital dispensing comdoms, provide free abortions, and will help you sign up for Obamacare.  You won't get healthcare but they will help you sign up for it.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:10 | 4854193 SDShack
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The USS 0zer0 may be a "hospital" like you say, but it won't be "floating". I envision something more like a broken down, tug boat, full of holes, stripped, and propped up on stilts in a vacant, trash strewned, overgrown hellhole lot, like Detroit. A combination Crack House, Weed Dispensery, that also signs up the FSA for every welfare item immaginable. PLUS is a registered polling location to insure the dumbcrats gets over 120% turnout of registered voters.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 14:52 | 4854387 Raymond K Hessel
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Holy shit! How did I forget about the voting registration booth!  That's GENIUS!!

 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:04 | 4854862 stant
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It will have only parasails for ac , and a tiki bar called the do ask do tell

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:37 | 4854009 F0ster
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"Irony: George H. W. Bush Is Heading Toward Iraq... The Aircraft Carrier, That Is"

Armed with 5 tons of popcorn and 3 tons of butter.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:40 | 4854017 fonzannoon
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at least we know why crude keeps breaking higher. Idiots burning fuel to send warships everywhere. when do they send the USS Nothingburger?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 13:44 | 4854055 Meat Hammer
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Or the USS Volt

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