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US Claims "Video Evidence" Shows Russia Providing Tanks To Rebels In Ukraine

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While the atrocious videos of ISIS killing civilians show the worst of human extremism in action, it seems the US wants to keep the message alive and well that Putin is still a very bad man (thanks to YouTube). Claiming "internet video" evidence, NY Times reports, the US State Department confirmed on Friday that Russia has sent tanks and other heavy weapons to separatists in Ukraine. "This is unacceptable," Marie Harf exclaimed, "Russia will claim these tanks were taken from Ukrainian forces...we are confident that these tanks came from Russia." There will be "additional costs," she added.


Via NY Times,

The State Department confirmed on Friday that Russia has sent tanks and other heavy weapons to separatists in Ukraine.


A convoy of three T-64 tanks, several BM-21 “Grad” multiple rocket launchers and other military vehicles crossed the border near the Ukrainian town of Snizhne, State Department officials said. Reports and images of the weapons’ presence circulated on Thursday, but there were conflicting claims about where they had come from.


“This is unacceptable,” said Marie Harf, the deputy State Department spokeswoman. “A failure by Russia to de-escalate this situation will lead to additional costs.




“Russia will claim these tanks were taken from Ukrainian forces, but no Ukrainian tank units have been operating in that area,” the State Department said Friday afternoon. “We are confident that these tanks came from Russia.”


“We also have information that Russia has accumulated multiple rocket launchers at this same deployment site in southwest Russia, and these rocket launchers also recently departed,” the State Department added. “Internet video has shown what we believe to be these same rocket launchers traveling through Luhansk.”

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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:04 | 4854863 Martial
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Pot, meet kettle.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:07 | 4854870 nope-1004
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How does Marie Harf know what Russia will say before they have even said it?  Planting words, my dear?

This comedy skit is one of the worst I've ever seen.  When .gov can't even make it seem little real, you know the aptitude has hit rock bottom.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:08 | 4854882 AnAnonymous
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Because Putin is doing the 'american' work.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:11 | 4854894 kliguy38
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Don't they have enough shit going wrong in Iraq to manage without starting shit in the Ukraine with the Bear......oh wait......we don't run this country anyway.......nevermind

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:15 | 4854912 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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But I thought the "superpower" USSA could take on the world?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:16 | 4854918 economics9698
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Who financed the Ukrainian revolt?  

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:26 | 4854942 Ignatius
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The Cookie Monster, aka Asst Sec of State Victoria Nuland.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:34 | 4854971 TheFourthStooge-ing
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A report on the Saker's site says that three Ukrainian tanks were captured outside Lugansk by Army Novorossiya.

The same report also says:

"Unconfirmed but deemed reliable sources indicate chemical weapons and/or biological weapons to be used in Peoples Republic of Donetsk against civilian and Army Novorossiya targets coupled with simultaneous high casualty attacks against civilian targets in central and west Ukraine. Unconfirmed but reliable reports state Ambassador J. Pyatt of USA knows of this plan. Operations are scheduled for 3 to 5 days from 12 June 2014. Army Novorossiya is to be implicated in chemical and terror attacks."

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:47 | 4854992 Ignatius
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And add to that their lukewarm support for impromptu Pussy Riot concerts held in serene Catholic Cathedrals.

And Pussy Riot brought their own chickens!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:03 | 4855048 ZerOhead
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Kept at a cozy 98.6 degrees no doubt...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:06 | 4855064 graneros
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I'm serious can this shit get any goofier? God what a bunch of children we have running the ship of state.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:16 | 4855082 graneros
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Well let me answer my own rhetorical question. YES YES it can. is saying that the Ways and Means Comittee has said that the IRS LOST 2 ears of Lois Lerner's Emails. Notice that info comes as we've got 200 Americans fighting it out with Al Queda? I really hate our Government and all the sad little POSs that helped put them there and still are hauling water for those Fascist shitbirds.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:45 | 4855165 Manthong
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"US Claims "Video Evidence" Shows Russia Providing Tanks To Rebels In Ukraine"

So what!

What difference does it make?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:54 | 4855183 7.62x54r
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I wonder if China wants Taiwan, and North Korea wants Seoul? Looks like there is a blue-light special on US satellite countries right now.

I'd call them retards, but that would be an insult to the short-bus crowd.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:31 | 4855283 knukles
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You all know how reliable that Internet Video Shit is, I mean what about that anti-Muzzie vid that started the Benghazi protest?
That when I looked at it on YouTube after it had been cited by the Administration, there were only about 4,000 hits.
Yeah, and fuck your mother, too, Uri.

Tanks a Bunch
Tread Lightly
Grind it Out
Hey, dude, that's Heavy
It'll be a blast

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 23:47 | 4855543 COSMOS
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Is it just me? Or does the USA really have a hard on for starting up some serious shooting in Ukraine.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:56 | 4855189 Lore
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THREE tanks!  I can understand one or two, but THREE...! 

Check the new video against others from months past. These people have been known to lie...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:20 | 4855091 A Nanny Moose
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This is the exact purpose of The State. Who else would gravitate towards employment in an organization with the legal authority to order everyone else around at gunpoint?

The insanity flows down all the way to School Board, and even the Little League Board.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 00:58 | 4855937 Flagit
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Kept at a cozy 98.6 degrees no doubt...

You have any fucking idea how hard it is to clean vomit out of a keyboard>?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 20:01 | 4855360 Volkodav
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Most credible version from on the ground is the tankers left the tanks..

decided against orders to attack cilvilians for Kyiv's wishes.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 20:47 | 4855465 Kirk2NCC1701
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Suggestion to Ukrainian tank Commanders: in the future, either fly a white flag or turn your gun turrets to the back, to signal good intentions, while driving toward Rebel forces, and then surrender said tanks.

Be sure to air on Youtube and RT, with copies sent to Western media. Especially to Jon Stewart @ Daily Show, and to Steve Colbert, who will happily use the material in their programs.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:01 | 4855940 Flagit
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You can laugh at/with him, but don't trust jew-boy John Stewart.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 06:36 | 4856150 Rakshas
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Stewart has been looking a bit stressed this past week, his eyes look worried and devoid of his normal sardonic gleem; perhaps the latest CFR/AIPAC minutes contained some information that JS found disturbing........ even he seems to be having a hard time selling the WH tripe........ well except on the gun control issue that is ..

Ben Franklin on Gun Control - Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner; liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote....




Sat, 06/14/2014 - 11:57 | 4856602 shovelhead
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Well we all knew that it was only a matter of time before the false flag chemical attacks were coming, didn't we?

The lack of imagination and inventiveness in the State Dept. and their stooges is breathtaking to behold.

Their motto must be "In error persevaro".

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:38 | 4854978 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The Cookie Monster, aka Asst Sec of State Victoria Nuland.

Here's an interesting pic of her and Rummy from 2005:

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:46 | 4855008 Ignatius
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Erie.  I did think she did a nice job of color-matching her outfit with Rummy though.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:55 | 4855986 COSMOS
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She is thinking what kind of receipe to use for her cookies in a few years time.  I think she used her Grandmother's favorite.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 02:00 | 4855990 Rock On Roger
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She's thinking; 'I''d lick his dick to be like him'.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:52 | 4855179 loonyleft
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Who financed the Ukrainian revolt?  


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:55 | 4855185 7.62x54r
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If the Chinese did it, it would have worked.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:16 | 4854919 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' are very productive people. They produce more than they consume.

Things like that go fast with 'americans': in a matter of weeks, the Iraq thing will be settled.

Very productive.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:44 | 4855009 bigkahuna
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you know more about 'americans' than 'americans' do. you are truly an 'american' of the first order. so ask yourself this question: are you an 'americann' or an 'americant'

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:50 | 4855014 Dr. Destructo
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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 23:48 | 4855845 COSMOS
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Half the population in the USA is officialy AmeriCUNTs and I hear in Washington DC its 100%

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:57 | 4855037 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Low cost producers stepping for 'americans' in Iraq downthere. The logical outcome on the path of outsourcery. Competitive advantage of being located on the Iraq's borders.

The road map to unite people of different cultural background has been given by the US.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:18 | 4854924 Harbanger
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Obamas new red line runs through half of Germany and western edge of the former soviet bloc.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:39 | 4854982 CrashisOptimistic
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They are right about the additional costs.

The US imports about 7 million barrels/day.  At $108 Brent that was $756 million leaving the country every day.

Now, at $113ish it's $791ish million.



Fri, 06/13/2014 - 23:49 | 4855847 COSMOS
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'What difference does it make, its just paper'

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:57 | 4855190 7.62x54r
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Maybe Ofucktard can get Putin to stop after taking Georgia. Atlanta, Georgia.

What a poltroon.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:08 | 4854884 BlindMonkey
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The WH just needs to hire The Onion staff to write the scripts. It would be a huge upgrade in coherency.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:55 | 4855031 Urban Redneck
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The NYT could also use an upgrade in coherency.

The Tylers got it right with US Claims "Video Evidence" Shows...

New York Times- not so much, there is a big difference between "The State Department confirmed" and "The State Department alleged"

The NYT should shitgum its new editor before its too late.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:16 | 4854917 vulcanraven
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This movie sucks, I demand a refund!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:34 | 4854961 Ignatius
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Funny how the NYT can spot tanks moving into Ukraine 10,000 miles away and yet had trouble noticing a 50' billboard across the street in NY sponsored by calling for a new investigation of WTC7.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:43 | 4855003 Thought Processor
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Yah, maybe the NYT should look into the whole MH370 fiasco.  


On second thought nevermind........


The whole world has gone full retard.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:56 | 4855011 ZerOhead
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< That was an explosion

< What explosion? I am a PATRIOT!

After exhaustive research a carefully selected team of investigators reporting to the even more carefully selected 9/11 Commission determined there were NO explosions coming from WTC 7.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:14 | 4855081 Harbanger
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Sounds like it could be a fuel tank or compressed gas tank from the HVAC equipment, but I'm no expert and conspiracies are more fun.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:18 | 4855087 Bastiat
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yeah, yeah, that's it.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:27 | 4855108 Harbanger
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Skip to 1:20 and see what happens to a tank when exposed to high heat.  A bigger explosion than even what was on the conspiracy tape.


Sat, 06/14/2014 - 00:54 | 4855933 Flagit
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How does Marie Harf know what Russia will say before they have even said it?


She knows more about Russia than Putin ever will.

 She graduated with honors from Indiana University, earning a Bachelor’s Degree in Political Science with concentrations in Russian and Eastern European Studies and Jewish Studies.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:07 | 4854879 john39
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in related fascist news, an "unamed" U.S. official states that the U.S. may bomb Syria to stop ISIL...

things starting to make sense?  they couldn't sell the war in Syria before... so they cook up yet another pretext.  dark days... dark days.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:42 | 4854974 ChanceIs
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Wa-wa-wa-wait a minute.

I thought that we sent arms to al Qaeda in Libya to overthrow Ghaddafi.  And when they used those same arms against is in Benghazi, the US government while swearing to punish the perps, actively supressed the investigation lest the source be revealed of the weapons used against Ambassador Stevens.

But those same arms then went to Syrian chapter of al Qaeda to fight against Assad.  You know - the same al Qaeda John McCain posed with the last time he was over there.

But now Obama wants to launch the US Air Force against the Syrian rebels/al Qaerda because the world is now staring down a for real jihadist state?  I am soooooooo confused.

I mean....what Obama wanted most and was achieving - a new millenia caliphate - he has largely achieved.  Now he wants to wreck it all?

So like...we will announce that we are going to bomb ISIS and instead let one drop on Assad.  You know......we missed.  Didn't Clinton bomb a condom factory in Herzogovenia back in '96ish?  Hey!!!  S*&t happens.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:49 | 4857555 omniversling
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Obomber's 'redline' that used to be the Syria/Iraq border has been moved about the Med. Perhaps a few stray ordinance from Operation Kinetic Freedom and Democracy will land on Damascus. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:16 | 4854893 Headbanger
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Oh fuck no!

It's been Hertz Rent-RentA-T99!

It's a lovely vehicle with the latest improvements in battle field luxury including a 1500 HP fuel sipping diesel engine and a fully automatic loader to quickly clear away those pesky rush hour traffic jams when you really must make your Norwegian hooker appointment on time!

Take a look and reserve yours today!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:23 | 4854941 Sirius Wonderblast
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With the kit Russia has coming on stream shortly in a few months time, maybe our noble leaders want to kick things off pronto before they have to face the new stuff.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:48 | 4855019 Thought Processor
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Maybe they're using Uber, I heard it's very popular in the Ukraine.


As in:  "hold on a sec, I'm trying to Uber me a tank....."



Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:19 | 4854930 JJdog
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Are these the same Aholes who said WMD in Iraq, Syrian rebels used gas, If you like your plan, you can keep your plans?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:39 | 4854985 Payne
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And Bengazi was caused by an internet video.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 20:32 | 4855435 Kirk2NCC1701
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Newsbreak: Russia provides incontrovertible proof that the US is supplying advanced arms to dangerous extremists in Syria, Libya,Iraq, and of bombing said countries.

All this info took the US and its MSM (Ministers of Salacious Media) by surprise, and they vowed to retaliate against such truthy claims.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 02:48 | 4856020 conscious being
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How many USA supplied war weapons are now moving across Syrian, Jordanian, Turkish, Iraqi borders in the hands of jihadi extremists??

Ans. Lots.  A whole lot.

DCs been doing this for years.

Maybe the Washington regieme should not have set such a bad precedent??

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 07:37 | 4856201 drendebe10
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Gummint - lies, more lies n damn lies.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 07:37 | 4856202 drendebe10
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Gummint - lies, more lies n damn lies.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:04 | 4854864 Xibalba
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Just like the 'video evidence' of Benghazi?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:15 | 4854915 MopWater
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I'm thinking more like Syria.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:34 | 4855572 q99x2
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I'm thinking more like vodka.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:05 | 4854866 kowalli
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Marie Harf - fucking american sucker

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4854868 Thought Processor
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Can we just dispense with the smoke and mirrors here, everyone knows who is really fighting who here.


On with the circus already.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:33 | 4854963 disabledvet
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Umm "this is so France 1940" (see below) and "whatchya gonna do about?"

Whatever one claims about Afghanistan "Ukraine" is clearly Obama's War.

Russia will continue to probe...and then as with Crimea...they will attack.

It would appear our strategy is to "yack attack."

These are Russians however. They aren't afraid. And we're the ones in their backyard. Perhaps we need to start defining "losing" in a more explicit manner.

I doubt the people we it defended?...have pondered the meaning of "American defeat."

We can apologize of course.
Or simply surrender.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4854872 djsmps
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Russia is so 1980.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:05 | 4855059 disabledvet
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I find it interesting that the Secretary of State has not resigned.

Clearly there is no plan here. one has called for his resignation either.

We have just had both an attack on our part...and a counter attack by "the enemy."

"Certainly Mr President if Israel is exterminated no one will weep."

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4854874 Chupacabra-322
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"Russia has sent tanks and other heavy weapons to separatists in Ukraine."

These "separatists" are the Anti Fasicst.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:09 | 4855069 disabledvet
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All the fascists died in 1940 you moron.
Granted "the suicides took a little longer."

That is a legitimately elected Government in Kiev who's "revolution" our "establishment" has personally supported.

And that was only a few weeks ago.

I mean who isn't full of shit here? Clearly "not the Russians."

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:07 | 4854876 AnAnonymous
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The conclusion is funny:

basically, the loot is increasingly more appealing and that should be good news?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:34 | 4854966 Yen Cross
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  On lunch break from roadside shiting duty AnAnonAclown?

  Go fetch me an egg role, before you wipe your roadside shitting Chinism blobbing ass!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:06 | 4854878 Hindenburg...Oh Man
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How convenient this tid-bit of information is released after market hours. Everything to do with Ukraine can only happen on the weekends in order to minimize market downside impact. (seriously, the whole thing has played out this way). Resolved by Monday.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:25 | 4854948 SheepDog-One
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Just like back in the day we waited for the list of bank failures, after market close Friday of course.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:11 | 4854891 Tinky
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Was Colin Powell waving the incriminating DVD around, by any chance?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:13 | 4854903 bugs_
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Here have some tanks, we picked up some real bargains in Mosul.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:17 | 4854921 Duc888
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....can't wait till china turns up the heat in Asia.  We're stretched so thin now.  USSA gonna be a real clusterfuck on the world stage real soon.


I'm gonna just kick back, crack open a beer or three and watch these politicians destroy the dollar.  Turd Werld Nation, here we come.  Then I can finally marry a few wives and maybe my pet goat too.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:11 | 4855075 Dr. Destructo
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Why marry the goat when you can get the milk for free?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:23 | 4855265 Parrotile
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In all seriousness, goats really DO make excellent pets, and goats milk is very nice! Start off with a more compact variant - a "Miniature" Goat! - but you will need more than one (they are herd animals after all, and NEED company!).

(Fond (??) memories of being chased regularly by the Grandparents goats (they were full-size Toggenburgs), as well as being chased by their geese! Best guard animals ever are geese! NOTHING will get past them!!)

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:46 | 4855322 Volkodav
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da   and Alabai dog and Siberian wife nothing escape either

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 19:54 | 4857562 omniversling
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I, Pet Goat II:

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:18 | 4854926 TheSecondLaw
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How has "unconfirmed report" become acceptable to publish or report on?  It's all you hear or see - a reporter in front of a camera saying:  "We have an unconfirmed report...." or "This unconfirmed video clip shows...".  If it isn't confirmed, don't show it or say it.


There is an unconfirmed report that California has sunk beneath the ocean along the San Andreas fault.

I have an unconfirmed report that Putin is dating Chelsea Clinton.


I mean what the fuck is this?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:22 | 4854939 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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It's called propaganda... They think if they use the term "unconfirmed report" they can peddle propaganda without damaging their credibility.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:22 | 4855095 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Also bear in mind that polysyllabic words like unconfirmed have always been a bit difficult for media-credulous Americans. The rise of texting, and a "smartphone"-induced cognitive upper bound which limits thoughts to those which can be expressed in 140 characters or less, has only made things worse.

You just know that for many of these people, the word unconfirmed is more or less perceived as a short blank space.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:21 | 4854934 Kaiser Sousa
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now off to the pub to watch the rest of the world cup and celebrate the purchase of another 500oz's of Silver at yesterdays phony paper price...

cheers to all the cool people here at the ZH...

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:11 | 4855945 Rock On Roger
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I bought forty pieces of shiney today.

Really fresh and shiney.

And paid my yearly muni tax bill too.


Stack On

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:21 | 4854936 Winston Churchill
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The despereration is oozing from the lizard people now.

WWIII or bust.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:19 | 4855090 Bastiat
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WWIII or bust . . . . literally.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:35 | 4855150 Winston Churchill
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Something broke behind the wizards curtain last year.

Wish I knew what is was.Right after Obozo met the bankers the relentless pressure

for war ,anywhere .anyhow has been escalating.All I know is time is running out fast,

for TPTB to cover whatever this is  up.

Its going to be this year for sure WWIII or bust..

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:21 | 4854938 SheepDog-One
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Uh oh, looks like russia is just begging for another sternly worded email.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:50 | 4855021 Jethro
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Vlad should send back a response lke this;


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:01 | 4855046 Gorod-Geroy Xerson
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Sultan/Obama Writes:

Sultan Mehmed IV to the Zaporozhian Cossacks:

As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the sun and moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God Himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians -- I command you, the Zaporogian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.

The "Terrorists"/Kosaks Respond:

O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are you, that can't slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil excretes, and your army eats. You will not, you son of a bitch, make subjects of Christian sons; we've no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother.

You Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw your own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 12:27 | 4856678 shovelhead
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Far more alliterative than my suggestion of "Suck my balls".

They probably had more time to kill.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:23 | 4854940 Yen Cross
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  It's about fucking time! I hope Vlad does donuts on the "unelected .Gov" assclowns in Western Ukraine.

  Shut the pipelines down to a drip Vlad.

    Just enough to power the lights in the "unelected.puppet.civilian slayers" offices.


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:24 | 4854944 Son of Captain Nemo
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And just when will the UN take an official vote to declare this a war crime just like the U.S. did it in Fallujah 2004?

The only way any of this will stop is when the NATO members disassemble completely and demand that the U.S. remove it's military bases and diplomatic corps from their Countries completely.  If the last week wasn't enough to give Western Europe the impetus to tell Washington to go "fuck itself" permanently then the whole World truly is "fucked".

Guess the Israeli's really do have the Sampson option at the ready in every European embassy they occupy that the "Ass-Puppet-in-Chief" warned us about when he made that infamous statement in the Netherlands last March!  What cowards we all are!!!

If we are ever to survive the World needs to cleanse the map of all the Zionists and those that follow them and start over!


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:23 | 4855100 disabledvet
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Germany will declare itself a nuclear power if this happens.

That will immediately start a war in the East...with perhaps VERY dramatic consequences.

Be interesting what Senator McCain's new friends in Tehran have to say about this as well.

"That is correct Senator. The USA and Iran are now officially allies."

Which also means we are at war with Saudi Arabia and Israel...AND HAVE BEEN FOR SOME TIME!

I'm still unclear and where we all one down on the funding for Hamas and Hezbollah.

There have been "reports" (studiously ignored for some time) that "Western/American jihadis have been reporting for duty for quite some time." Perhaps the time has come to explain to "America" that in fact we are the ones attacking Israel!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:44 | 4855155 Son of Captain Nemo
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So why didn't you tell me you were a "dual citizen"?...

Which branch of the service were you in for each Country?  The "host" and the "parasite"...

Gotta "blue helmet" proposition for you in the newly declared settlement of Ukraine. 

My understanding is it's got lots of oil and very productive farm land for growing and will be available courtesy of the U.S. Government when they get the indigenous folks off the land -well you know the drill... Call it the new "New Homeland" or State whatever works best for you, cause the old one is about ready to implode and the visas are getting created as we speak.

Looks like we fucked up again.  Good news is the new territory looks fantastic compared to the last one we shit all over!

Bad news is the natives in the "Latest Homeland" ain't gonna be as easy to work with considering what we've already done their just in the last 4 months alone!  The neighbor is a real son of a bitch!

But... We'll figure it all out one way or the other We always do!

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 03:15 | 4856036 conscious being
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Crazy to me how after decades of vociferous denial and slander directed at anyone who hsd the balls to say so, the tribe is now embracing Khazar origins to facilitate the population move you refer to.

What's it like to murder all those Pali's for a lie?  A false narrative that's now being abandoned ... 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 13:40 | 4856832 Son of Captain Nemo
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Best of all the "re-wriiten narrative" is from a Jew about "Jews"...

Why this doesn't absolutely go viral and piss every gentile off into action since it's debut in March is telling.  If their are Zionist Jews who wish to acquire a soul and want to turn the corner and change their direction this is the opportunity and vehicle for doing it!

Wonder how many in Hollywood will put money behind it in order to spread the word?...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:24 | 4854945 Joe Tierney
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The DEPRESSING part of this is that these worthless pee-stains live off of my damn taxes! I wish the BIG COLLAPSE would just come already - I want to see these scam artists scrounge for a living like the rest of us.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:29 | 4854959 Kavklov
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Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:48 | 4855016 Jethro
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Or more recently the"video evidence" in Syria.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:48 | 4855017 angel_of_joy
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Boy, the Americans are getting so stupid they are painfull to watch (or listen to)...

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 03:18 | 4856038 conscious being
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It's actually been that way for quite some time.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:29 | 4854960 Blano
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I'm sure this little Barf chickie has Putin shaking in his boots.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:32 | 4854962 Herdee
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Are those German made nuclear armed Israeli subs still close to Iran?The new world order forces (the government within the government)needs a trigger to destroy the U.S. economy and the Dollar.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:32 | 4855134 disabledvet
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"Welcome to the Middle East" dipshit.

The US and Iran are now allies.

I'd ask General Petraeus to explain...but clearly we need "pictures of winning."

Indeed AS the Russians attack they may IN FACT being doing so "as America's friend" (even while they wipe Ukraine off the map.)

Clearly France has no problem with this.
I'm still unclear vis a vis Germany.

Of course...they've been wiped off the map before too. Perhaps the Wehrmacht needs to move into Poland here "just in case"?

Ahh, the twists and turns of geopolitics.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 09:36 | 4856332 StychoKiller
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Leibensraum!  Will no one think of the leibensraum?!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:37 | 4854976 Fix It Again Timmy
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Are these photos from the same album that contains pictures of Iraqi mobile chemical weapon trucks?...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:38 | 4854977 NOTaREALmerican
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This is true.    The u-Crane bought then at a used tank dealer just over the border.

Crazy Boris Used Tanks.  Bad Credit, No CREDIT, NO PROBLEM!    

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:43 | 4854979 TicoTiger
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From MOA:

"The pictures I have seen seem to show a variant of the T-64 tanks that are modified and sold  by the Ukrainian weapon industry and used in the Urkrainian military. As far as I know Russia does no longer have such tanks in service. How difficult would it be for real journalists to verify that?"

Message to the esteemed ny times and their brother publication wackjob post:

Wonder why MSM is loosing readership day by day?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:46 | 4855013 Jethro
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Every dog is a pitbull.  Every gun is an "assault rifle". 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:26 | 4855112 One of We
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"Real journalists" are unemployed probably posting on some conspiracy blog out there on the inter web....

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:34 | 4855144 disabledvet
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How about the psy ops campaign?

"They even admit to them being real tanks. But do nothing."

Roll in dee hay! Roll in dee hay!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:34 | 4855293 One of We
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The most positive thing that could happen for the state of the human mind would be for 99% of what's on TV to disappear forever to be replaced with nothing.  Sometime during a nap yesterday my TV ended up on cable and Hannity in particular.  It's been a couple years since I've heard the show and it was shocking to me how plain as day a brainwash the whole five minutes I paid concious attention to was.  Smart, healthy people who watch this type of shit need to know that they are being manipulated by a very sophisticated and effective mechanism that will alter their perception of the world around them in a major way.  It's extremely important to get as much information about what is going on in the world as possible to help find which way is up in what feels like full spectrum vertigo lately but be careful about what you let into your mind people.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 12:44 | 4856708 shovelhead
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True enough.

It's a daily struggle to only let in points of view that I agree with.

That way my brain can relax and not have to figure shit out.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 01:20 | 4855951 Rock On Roger
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I've always wondered if it was a head injury...?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:35 | 4855296 Volkodav
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The three tanks in question were Ukrainian T-64B. The Ukrainian tankers left them.

Story from on the ground is they did not want to fight locals and attack civilians for the crossbred Kyiv criminals......

From there where they ended up is not clear, but likely they disapeared themselves.

another interesting news is numbers of grown men available for adoption in Ukraine/Russian border areas

is way up...

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:39 | 4854988 Sirius Wonderblast
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Price of oil going north - Russia making more money, costs Nato (US) more to deploy anything, and Euroe looks like running short of energy. All cos they thought they would fuck with Putin. Now they have prospect of having to be nice to Iran, having completely ballsd up in Iraq and Syria. No, I don't buy that The Pillocks That Be planned for this, they've got it all over their shirts. What do we think will be the effect of an oil shock the "recovery" - should fuck the EU in a way Nuland never could.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:39 | 4854990 Yen Cross
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   It's not like the White House "Marionette" in charge didn't park a few "stealth bombers" on Putins doorstep?


Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:57 | 4855015 Jack Burton
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Here is a story of complete State department lies. How would I know? Well, reading sources from on the scene revealed several days ago that Ukraine's army was committing main battle tanks to the fighting. Video evidence of tank columns and train cars bringing tanks to the East. Several days after their arrival, the Defense Forces reported engaging tanks in battle. The following day the Self Defense Forces reported the capture  of 3 Ukrainian Army Tanks, soon after that pictures and videos of the three tanks being driven by Pro Russian Self Defense Fighters were posted. Now reports are being released of these tanks being used in battle and the loss of perhaps two of them.

So, I get up this morning and Britain's Daily Mail reports this Russian Tank Invasion story as released by the Kiev media. Checking into it, the same videos and pictures showing the captured Ukrainian tanks were now relabeled by Kiev as showing Russian Federation Army Tanks that invaded Ukraine. Checking carefully, yes, indeed, these are OLD pictures of the very same captured tanks being used now by the Self Defense Forces in battle.

The western media is both pathetic, transparent and generally whorish in their lies designed to promote the US State Department lie machine and the Kiev Coup Leader's lie machine. Since Kiev's own border guards defected to Russia, 84 of them from one section of the border, several days ago, and asked for asylum in the Russian Federation, Kiev's coup leaders and their bosses at the US State Department have been beside themselves with rage over another failure of the Coup to garner support. These section of border, over 100 kilometers long is now open and held by Self Defense Forces. Thus if Russia wanted to ship tanks, they could do it with ease. But that does not appear to be happening. The three captured tanks have so far been the Self Defense Force's only Main Battle Tanks.

Now that America's foreign policy and military leaders have been screwed up the ass in Iraq. Screwed in Syria, Screwed in Libya and now their Ukrainian dream is falling to shit, they do what they always do when confronted with their own incompetent failures that are being made public day after day, they do the only thing these overpaid American failures can do. Lie and cry. Lie about the failures of their West Ukrainian fascist Right Sector legions to win the battle against the inhabitants of East Ukraine Lie about the Ukrainian border guards and soldiers walking across the frontier into Russia and asking to be accepted into the reseistance. Where is Nuland? Two days ago she was walking the Miadan with the boxer Klitschko and talking over his new role as mayor of Kiev. Nuland is a blood soaked failure. Yet she maintains her position as a highly paid State department whore.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:31 | 4855128 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Nuland tossing cookies again?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:34 | 4855141 JuliaS
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This resembles the historical turn in the course of WW2 in late 1943 followed by reverse progression of Allied forces all the way to Berlin.

Next stop - Washington D.C.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 12:54 | 4856733 shovelhead
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Pretty harsh Jack.

At least she got 50% of her job done.

The lying part, that is.

No one is perfect.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 17:58 | 4855040 Pumpkin
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And exactly how is this any matter of the national defense of The United States of America?  Lost profit opportunity maybe?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:54 | 4855065 Yen Cross
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 Blowing the "kingdom Come" out of innocent civilians is all the rage.

  If O'tool were smart, he would use that crazy crypt capturing president of Turkey, to slay the dragon.

  Pipelines and routes make Turkey the next ? Afghanistan<>NATO style.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:02 | 4855047 Lumberjack
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Rosatom to Develop New Nuclear Energy Agreement with Argentina

 Russia’s state nuclear energy corporation Rosatom plans to develop a new intergovernmental agreement on peaceful nuclear energy with Argentina this year, according to the company’s draft 2013 annual report.

Earlier, Rosatom CEO Sergei Kirienko stated that Russia’s nuclear industry is interested in participating in Latin American countries’ national nuclear energy programs, especially those of Brazil and Argentina.

Additionally, the exchange of diplomatic notes with Japan for the purposes of storing nuclear materials at Russian facilities in accordance with a 2009 intergovernmental agreement on peaceful nuclear energy is expected to be completed later this year.

The company also plans to continue working with South Africa on expanding the legal framework for nuclear energy production there.


Senators urge Pentagon to end systematic faking of its accounts


(Reuters) - Four senators have called on the Defense Department to end a practice that involves deliberately inserting false numbers into the Pentagon's accounting ledgers and financial reports.

The senators sent a letter to Defense Department Comptroller Robert Hale urging the Pentagon to stop an accounting practice widely known as "plugging." The letter, dated June 12, 2014, said that plugs are fictitious dollar amounts inserted into financial ledgers to make it appear that the Pentagon’s books balance.


The letter ( was sent by Charles Grassley, Tom Coburn, Thomas Carper and Ron Johnson. The four senators have been pressing for a solution to severe accounting problems at the Pentagon, whose spending accounts for the largest chunk by far of the annual federal budget approved by Congress. Grassley is the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee; the others hold top positions on the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:04 | 4855057 rsnoble
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But it's no problem that the US will provide who knows what to the other side?

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 20:42 | 4855071 JuliaS
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In a week Russia cuts off gas, then we'll find out which tanks, planes and helicopters are Russian. Those will be the ones still running.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:17 | 4855086 thurstjo63
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This one should be up there with the supposed bearded Russian who were directing things in eastern Ukraine a couple of months ago. It should be amusing nonetheless.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:18 | 4855089 css1971
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T-64s? Really? Wikipedia says Russia scrapped all theirs, but ukraine maintained several hundred in storage still.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:25 | 4855107 Cold Grub
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Hey Marie:   If bulll shit was music , you'd be a whole brass band.   It's pathetic the feeble talk that eminates as news. Maybe she should

stomp her feet or wag her finger  to show how serious she is........LOL

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:26 | 4855109 Bunga Bunga
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White phosphorus used in Ukraine:

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:12 | 4855204 Bankster Kibble
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Yeah, how come New York Times didn't say anything about that?  Huh.  Were they reviewing the same video we all saw 2 days ago?  Was it the same tank driving around the block 3 times?

Tsk Tsk.  NYT is slipping.   (edit to remove WSJ)

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:35 | 4855113 Jack Burton
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In the end, the entire US planned and funded Coup in Kiev is falling apart. The dream was to use a small well paid and highy trained cadre of professional protestors to carry out a coup by taking over the central square of Kiev and ride the wave of Western Media support to control of Parliament. The protestors had been trained for months is camps in Poland and the Baltics, where tactics and organized command was put into place. Pay was around 40-50 Euros a day, very high by Ukrainian standards. This force was backed up by American CIA command and control, along with special sniper squads to be used only if needed. To win, they were needed. Kiev to this day can not explain the dozens of riot police gunned down stone cold dead along with a group of armed and unarmed protestors. Shooting by protestors was videoed many times, but these were not the snipers, they were hold up in a buliding just off the Miadan. Shooting both sides at random.

The US controlled coup was a master work in as far as it was able to secure the Maidan and then the control over parliament. The revolt of the East and Crimea was expected, but not to such a highly professional degree and so rapidly. Russia was obviously not going to surrender the East to NATO.

Lets be honest and say fuck it to all the lies and fake news stories. NATO, led by the USA using the CIA arranged and carried out a coup d'etat using West Ukrainian fascists as the foot soldier. The goal was to pull a rapid regime change with a change over to an EU/NATO led government, then quickly use the army to secure this power, ask for NATO help and get boots on the ground BEFORE Russia could react. Thus in a short period of time, it was hoped to be able to secure the whole prize, Crimea being the biggest NATO prize. The reason it all went to shit is because the parliament of Crimea passed laws and made announcements BEFORE the coup came close to success in Kiev. They announced that they would refuse any orders from a Kiev coup government, then they sealed the bordes and put into place armed check points. Backed across the Crimea by Russia troops already stationed in Crimea by law. Before the coup could work it's magic, Crimean Parliament gave Russia political cover and armed support to prevent Kiev from sending any thugs to start the revolution in Crimea. THIS quick action destroyed the US/NATO plan totally. And it gave hope to East Ukraine that they too could rise up and prevent the coup assuming control over their homes and cities. Thus we see the battles now.

Beaten by a rapid Russian response to the NATO take over, now the west, Kiev and NATO are all being defeated on the battle field by pro Russian self defense fighters. This is making NATO and Obama very angry. Kiev is beside itself over the failure of NATO's entire coup operation, YES, they took the Maidan and sit in the Rada as powerful leaders of a rump, bankrupt and militarily defeated puppet of Washington.

I would entertain anyone's thoughts who sees this differently. If they have the evidence that what I said is wrong, I will take it into account. But as of now, I think evidence all points to this being an entirely Washington based coup, a well planned operation that failed because of two things. Russia's rapid action, and the unaccountably high support Russia enjoys in Crimea and most of all in East and South Ukraine. The west denies this support for Russia inside Ukraine, but the reality that self defense forces are beating up highly armed Ukrainian army forces and large right sector gangs on a daily basis gives the lie to all the western medias narrative of the on the ground reality.

Kiev is bankrupt and by winter will be in total chaos. When pensions are slashed, wages slashed, job eliminate to allow German imports to take over markets, and IMF bankers tell the Rada what to and not to do. How is that gonna sink in to a population who can only ask the EU and Washington for money for energy and to fund government. Pensions, health care, military, public works, schools and everything. The Coup of Kiev is totally beholding to the West for everything they will need by winter. Only free money handouts will keep this dead horse still pulling.

As for the battle to conquer the East Ukraine and make it part of the fascist west Ukraine. I wish them good luck with that. They will have their asses kicked, and in response the Kiev coup will begin the slaughter of thousands of civilians and raise cities to the ground, while the Washington Leaders provide diplomatic cover and media lies to protect the war criminals that Washington is hoping will lead Ukraine into the front line NATO nation for the destruction of Russia. The fools in Washington are playing the end game now, and from how they are doing, do not expect the end game to end well. Fucking mess, caused by fucking idiots using our tax money to piss it down the Kiev rathole, all the while American people sink into debt and low wage poverty.

Obama was our idea of hope and change? Imagine the hope and change Hillary "the bitch" Cliton will bring. That war mongering Israeli bitch will leave a trail of dead all across her path. She is evil and plans mass murder and mass war. In all my years as an American voter, I have never seen such a threat to American freedom and peace as MS. Cliton. As she dances to AIPAC's tune in every detail. WHo is in charge her anyways? Guess.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 19:32 | 4855289 sushi
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Good analysis.

You could add in that Poland's motive in all of this, apart from making itself a useful tool of the USSA, is likely salivating at the prospect of a failed Ukrainian state whioch permits Poland to march in an reclaim lands that once were part of Poland. This would likely suit some of the Ukrainian oligarchs as a Polish annexation puts them immediately within the EU and under NATO protection. This is a variation on the gameplan that Georgia attempted a couple of years ago.

But if you can undertake this analysis and I can do the same and concur in your basic findings then the question becomes who else can do the same?

My hunch is that many of the EU nations are staring at several uncomfortable future facts:

1) The actions if the "Fuck the EU" USSA is in the process of delivering a failed state on the EU borders. This sort of blows up the EU peace, love, light, good fellowship brotherhood bullsit on which the EU was founded.

2) This failed state is likely to become a source of a new wave of in-mirgation to the current EU states when they already face problems with existing levels of migration.

3) The presence of a failed state on the eastern border and the the revitalization of cold war rehetoric / conflict, serves to isolate the EU from the emerging markets in Aisia.

4) The current USSA driven mess in Iraq likely presages higher fuel costs. Any sane analysis shows that it si impossible for the USSA to replace RF NG. Even if USSA had the stocks (which they don't) it would take 3 years + to build the necessary infrastructure to support such exports. That is three very long, very cold, very expensive winters.

5) The EU is sitting on the edge of falling back into recession (don't think it ever left recession / depression without the tactiv of counting all hookers and blow as newly found GDP) and higher energy costs will surely kill the economy.

6) EU has to face up to the fact that they are not glorious and independent emeging nation state but simply a USSA satrapy, a group of subordinat vassals. This realization has got to burn. Reports are that the USSA buys off EU leaders with bags of cash. This sets the stage for colour revolutions in the EU. This is already being reflected in the latest round of elections.

Even if o'Bummer departs the scene, the wheels set in motion will not be easily stopped or reversed. What we aare watching is the initial stages of a slow motion collapse of USSA empire.



Fri, 06/13/2014 - 20:08 | 4855378 Winston Churchill
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Pretty good synopsis from both of you.

The wild card is Germany doing a Molotov/Ribbentrop side deal.

I think the US would not hesitate to nuke Europe in that case.

Bags of cash, and threats, are the only thing explaining the European leaders position.

Countries only have interests , not friends.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 23:53 | 4855854 Ides of November
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Germany & Turkey are the swing States that will ultimately destroy NATO.

Erdogan can certainly be no great friend of the USA after what went on earlier this year. But he needs to secure his power at the Turkish Presidential Election in August. If he wins, as he should easily, expect Turkey to start moving away from NATO.

Turkey of course also ties in intimately to the situations in Iraq & Syria. Iran looms as potentially a key strategic ally of Turkey in the Middle East and it would mightily suit both of these countries to reshape the situation and borders in Iraq/Syria to their own benefit - most probably under the cover of China & Russia.

The Turkish Elections really are far more important than many people realise. Erdogan could gain real power in a few months - and leaving NATO and kicking the Americans out of Incirlik would certainly be a possibility not too far down the road. The Turks won't do this lightly of course, but events are clearly moving in that direction with the chaos now spreading to their South.

Hard to read Angela Merkel - either she's an idiot/muppet of the highest order and believes the lies the Americans are telling her, or has a pathological hatred/fear? (either/both??) of Russia from her time growing up in the Russian controlled vassal State of East Germany, or, she is actually playing a long game and while demonising Russia publicly, and for the sake of the Western media/ American establishment, is actually revealing her true intentions to Putin via back-channels (got to be careful here though given the reach of the NSA which she should well know about!!) or perhaps via subordinates.

Does anyone know which it actually is of those 3?

If the Russia establishment was smart - and you'd have to assume they are, they would really be getting into the ears of the Germans & Turks and promising them oodles of cheap energy in future to be truly, when it comes to it, non-aligned in any substantial stand-off between Russia and the West.

A joint German/Turkish announcement that they were leaving NATO as it no longer served any useful purpose would be immensely powerful. Does anyone really think Turkey fears Iranian nuclear tipped missiles?

And if NATO's Europeam Defence Shield was really planned to prevent Iranian nuclear missiles raining down on Europe (And here I have to agree with Putin - the notion is frankly laughable and always has been - the parroting of this line by the Western media was one of the early signals I had that most of the Western media were at best useful idiots without the capacity for rational thought!!) a very disappointing moment, but I digress. If that was the case - why wasn't this missile shield planned to be built in Turkey!! I mean seriously - that is the obvious NATO country for such a shield!!

In any case, the countries/peoples that are really setting themselves up for some serious blowback here are Poland, the West Ukrainians and the Baltics. These guys seem to be the biggest cheerleaders for the disastrous US policy in Ukraine - and that won't be forgotten. Why is it always the same idiots?

It is noticeable that much of the rest of Eastern Europe has been relatively quiet on the whole Ukraine situation. In stark contrast to the Poles who almost seem to be driving the whole operation and Kiev coup with the encouragement and funding of the US NeoCons (which doesn't include Obama - he is simply the most useful of idiots I have ever seen in this whole situation).

Given, and I'll give Obama (probably completely) undeserved credit here, he managed to finesse the calls for war in Syria last year into a populist backlash against US intervention and the Congressman eventually woke up, properly assessed the situation - which is actually their bloody job afterall and rather than letting themselves be led by the nose by a bunch of fanatical neocons, effectively vetoed any real US military intervention in Syria, I really don't think he wants to be starting off any wars. I do feel that he almost feels like he's trapped into some of these stupid policies and he (clearly) lacks the power (and/ or) balls to do anything about it.

If he had any balls - there's a whole list of people he should immediately sack - John Kerry, Victoria Nuland, Joseph Biden, Geoffrey Pyatt, John Brennan being at the top of the list and you can throw in the likes of Susan Rice and Jen Psaki for good measure. Perhaps even Eric Holder for just being a moron, but that's for entirely different reasons that Obama is actually probably on board with.

The only hope you can have is that the whole thing doesn't blow up before the US Mid-Terms - perhaps a 50-50 proposition, and after his last election cycle is out of the way he can actually remove these cretins from his administrations. It's extremely doubtful he will of course, because he's hitched his wagon to these guys, but it might be the only hope we have of avoiding World War 3 or perhaps a much hotter version of the Cold War.

Does Obama have any balls? Prognosis is doubtful, extremely doubtful. We'll learn for sure one way or another over the next 12 months. (And yes, I know most of you already know the answer to that question, but I'm a slow-learner, and also for the sake of my friends - many of whom seem to regard Obama as some sort of post-modern Messiah (I think they're idiots for thinking like that and completely lack any rational or critical thought) , but for their sake I'll give him another 6-12 months of hope on the Obama front (at a maximum and assuming everything doesn't blow up before then) which would obviously be his fault for a complete lack of leadership. Real leadership not just sound bites (which is another thing many people can't seem to differentiate between - ignorance is bliss for these libtards).

I am not hopeful, but I am looking forward to how this whole thing plays out. I have a strong feeling many of these neocon (and European fellow travelers on the whole venture) are going to have their asses handed to them over the next 12 months.

The imminent fall of Baghdad to a ragtag army of Sunni fascists might just be the tipping point.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 14:11 | 4856897 sushi
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On Turkey

A few years back when a Kurdish state being established in Northern Iraq was a rumoured outcome of the US invasion of Iraq, Turkey was threatening to take military action against any such newly established state. The reasons for this was Turkish fear of Kurd "terrorists" acting to undermine Turkish dominion of her eastern provinces which have a large Kurd population. Since the population spans the border the fear was that any new Kurdish state in Iraq would ultimately result in a conflict which would see the Turkish provinces with a high kurd population moving to join the new state.


This would seem to remain a threat to the Turkish state. Not sure why Erdogan is not repeating his prior bellicose statements unless it is to avoid drawing any attention to Turkey's weakness and potential eastern problems.


Turkish support for Syrian rebels is understood to be done in quiet alliance with Saudi Arabia. KSA supplies the money, Turkey provides geographic access. Suspect KSA sees its future lies with Asian markets, not with a USSA which promotes non-existent energy exports. Plus China exports quality low cost military hardware but appears indifferent to its end use while the USSA puts client states on a short leash and threatens to cut off access to required spares. 


On Germany

Agreed on the puzzle that is Merkel. One would almost thing that the NSA has managed to obtain some form of blackmail to ensure she holds the party line. What is known is that the German industrialists and commercial sector are very conscious of the possibility of being cut off from the growth markets in Asia while being saddled with support costs for a sick EU economy.



UK actions presage a shift in EU relations. UK faces: 1) Cameron's antagonism against Junker; 2) Scotland's threatened vote for independence; 3) Domestic unease over EU internal migration policy; 4) Need to avoid antagonizing the expatriate Russian fund holders; 5) Stay on the right side of the bed with Uncle Sam. 


What is truly interesting is the the ISIS "occupation" of Iraq creates a significant area devoid of air defenses. This provides Israel with more or less direct access to Iran if they wished to act against Iranian nuke installations. But at the same time Israel now shares an interest with Iran in inhibiting further gains on the part of ISIS. The same goes for Saudi Arabia. If you were one of the Saudi princes happily living a dissolute lifestyle while supporting the rebels in Syria would you sleep well at night if it turns out that "Your" rebels may have minds of their own and have no qualms over hoisting heads on a stick to warn against failing to conform to strict Islamic beliefs?


My bet is that in the capitals of much of the world the heads are spinning as they try to calculate where their interests lie and whose side do they want to be on. I suspect this leads to a fundamental questioning of the true value of USSA hegemony or the insanity of entrusting any decision making to such an inchoate and powerful state as the USSA. For that reason I suspect that whatever other outcomes result one of the core results will be weakening of USSA global position.

As to your last point regarding members of the elite getting their asses handed to them, I could not agree more. There are two many variables in play, too many highly conflicted interests, too many potential flashpoints, for all of this to be tamped down and papered over with some propoganda. May we live in interesting times!



Sat, 06/14/2014 - 15:18 | 4857042 Jano
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1.) failed states on the border of EU?



-Cerna Gora


and now Ua

and future prospects:



Am just surprised, that the Jewes Nudellman did not show up with cakes there everywhere.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 21:17 | 4855531 JuliaS
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Either the US is running out of capital and losing dute to inability to finance wars, or existence of the internet is completely destroying our ability to distribute unilateral propaganda - a crucial component in any military campaign.

For the first time in many years "this" feels different. Very different.

We've been fighting wars non stop for 100's of years. Never have we been losing on all fronts simultaneously. Total collapse of the empire seems imminent. I better revisit Dmitry Orlov as his predictions seem to be right on the money.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 06:29 | 4856145 Sirius Wonderblast
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The Russians were never going to let Nato near Sebastopol, happily it did not require much shooting to maintain that assert.

Nato/Us (as usual) totally overlooked that people will fight far harder for their home than for booty, hence the situation in East Ukraine.

Had the US and West generally (including UK) kept it's snout out of places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, the world would now be a far better/less unhappy place. But, some businessmen who sponsor politicians wouldn't be so rich.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:29 | 4855123 One of We
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Pretty sure I saw a dime bag of yellowcake on the transom of one of those "Russian" T-64's....

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:30 | 4855126 novictim
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Brother continues to fight brother so some bullshit fantasy of a resergent Russian empire can be played out.

Cosmos!  Stooge!  How could this ever be justified?  How will history look back on this?  I think it's a tragedy and I only wish that Russians had more self-pride than to let a little sociopath drive a wedge between Russia and its natural allies (Europe!  Ukraine!).

This all will spell bad-blood for decades or longer.  Crazy. 

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:38 | 4855148 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You're not fooling anybody.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:41 | 4855158 novictim
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Damn!  Langley screwed up again!

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:33 | 4855132 Joebloinvestor
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They can sure fabricate whatever the fuck they want, but when they can't delay it any longer they declare it doesn't exist.

Fri, 06/13/2014 - 18:51 | 4855176 Meat Hammer
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If there were even a shred of doubt left that our government is a criminal organization then I'll just put this here...

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