Congressman Asks NSA To Restore Two Years Of "Lost" Lois Lerner IRS Emails

Tyler Durden's picture

Yesterday, the republican campaign to get to the bottom of IRS' targeting of conservative groups was dealt an absolutely idiotic blow when the IRS, in all seriousness, announced that it had lost two years worth of emails to and from the chief subject of the investigation: former agency official Lois Lerner.

As House Ways and Means Commitee chairman Dave Camp said, "The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to congressional inquiries,” he said in a statement. "There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General."

According to NRO, the agency informed Camp that a computer crash resulted in the loss of e-mails between January 2009 and April 2011 sent between Lerner and outside agencies such as the White House and the Department of Justice. "Those messages are particularly relevant given revelations earlier this week that the agency in 2010 transmitted a database to the FBI containing confidential taxpayer information, potentially in violation of federal law."

The IRS said in a separate statement that it has or will produce 24,000 e-mails from the period between 2009 and 2011 using the files of 82 individuals with whom Lerner corresponded, and that it has produced nearly all of the 67,000 e-mails sent and received by Lerner during her time at the agency.

Apparently lack of document (and email) retention is a crime for everyone, but not for the IRS. And furthermore, only when it comes to the IRS, can a single computer crash destroy the entire email path history, even as it crosses through countless servers across the world, and ultimately lands in somebody else's inbox.

It goes without saying that for the IRS to even assume someone would believe this particular, and quite spectacular, lie is beyond insulting to even the most gullible idiot among the US population.

So we won't say it.

What, however, was simply a bizarre, if idiotic, lie has just been taken to a whole new level of ridiculousness, when moments ago, representative Steve Stockman (R-Texas) announced he would request that the National Security Agency help in the hunt for missing emails to and from the IRS’s Lois Lerner, and recover two years worth of "lost" emails. From the Hill:

In a letter to NSA Director Michael Rogers on Friday, Stockman requested that the NSA turn over information it has about emails between Lerner and outside groups between January 2009 and April 2011.


Stockman’s request for the NSA’s “metadata” on the emails comes as congressional Republicans probe whether the IRS mishandled applications for tax-exempt status from Tea Party and conservative groups.


In a statement, Stockman said the NSA’s information “will establish who Lerner contacted and when, which helps investigators determine the extent of illegal activity by the IRS.”


Your prompt cooperation in this matter will be greatly appreciated and will help establish how IRS and other personnel violated rights protected by the First Amendment,” Rogers wrote.

Turns out all those jokes about people calling the NSA and asking for backups of lost emails and of course files (because remember, courtesy of complicit megacorporations, the NSA has full backdoor access to everything anyone does) - they weren't jokes at all.

And now the NSA is caught between a rock and a hard place: because if it refuses an officialcongressional demand, it shows once again that the spy agency is entirely separated from any concept of checks and balances and accountability; if it complies, it confirms that all the NSA is, considering it can't even tap into a bunch of Al Qaeda phones and figure out what the jihadists' strategy is in Iraq, is just a massive data repository of all US electronic information, to be abused at will by corrupt, criminal government workers, some of whom will likely have to resort to the "dog ate my emails" excuse in the immediate future.

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Jerome Lester Horwitz's picture

I gaurantee you that they have those emails. Unless the IRS officially uses pop3 email like Yahoo or Google mail and even if they did they are likely recoverable. Most certainly they use Microsoft Exchange (Microsoft sells their products to government and educational institutions at deep discounts) which means the email resides on a server and not a computer except for the local copy. To trot out the excuse that they are lost because a computer crashed is laughable. Not only do they reside on a server that server will also have backups. The only email that may reside on the local computer that does not reside on a server in an Exchange environment is when archiving is implemented. Even so, in something as important as government archiving should not be left to being stored on a pc hard drive. Even if that hard drive crashed it is highly likely that the data on it could be recovered. Most likely archiving is done to storage attached to a server that is also backed up. What a freaking joke!

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Spot on.  Commence the RICO investigation.

honestann's picture

This just in from NSA: "What an amazing coincidence!  Those are the only emails sent by anyone on earth during those years that NSA lost too.  Our investigation indicates Snowden erased them."

Atomizer's picture

I recognize this may not be a humanitarian approach, if you belt them down on a table and run a 50 minute Chinese water torture test, they would tell you where to find the classified IRS email files. Some prefer waterboarding. Call me old school.


mijev's picture

Funny.  The irs had no problems finding my old email to them.

craus's picture

Having worked as a contractor for the US government. I can tell you 'loosing' the emails is totally impossible. All and I mean all work you do on the computer is backed up and you are subject to immediate dismissal if you do anything inappropriate.

wisefool's picture

Along those lines a person as high up as Learner had security clearance that is higher than 80% of the people at the NSA. All of her data not specifically classified for public dissemination is consider "confidential" or higher by default. Direct correspondence to the White House is secret or better by default. Somebody is going to get fired for this. Probably a $10/hr contractor who cleans the toilets. Corzine MF global style.

NoWayJose's picture

Of course, the next step might be to order Lerner emails from the companies and agencies that they suspect Lerner communicated with. Hopefully server crashes are not contagious. Since those companies/agencies won't know which emails the IRS produced or which ones the NSA 'found', you may catch some fish that way. All you need are one or two from Lerner that let you put her away and the beans will spill on all the rest.

NoWayJose's picture

The main reason Lerner would plead the Fifth is that she knows she is guilty and she knows there is proof of it. Just like many others who actually get prosecuted, it is the lying that gets them sentenced, not the original crimes.

U4 eee aaa's picture

And if the NSA can't find it I'm sure Google, MSFT, Yahoo and Facebook will all have backups in their data banks. So not to worry here. The info is out there. We just need to press the right buttons (or crush the right thumbs) to get it out

Bazza McKenzie's picture

Sorry, we'd like to help but until Snowden releases something more we don't know if we collected this information.

And even if we did, it was all lost in a big computer malfunction undoubtedly due to the evil Mr Putin or those Chinese hackers the FBI is righteously trying to prosecute.

But be warm in the knowledge we have our , (whoops) your best interests at heart and are absolutely committed to working hand-in-hand with the many wonderful members of Congress we have under our thumb (whoops, again) so appreciate.


goldenbuddha454's picture

No bureaucracy gets dismantled until the ones running it begin hurting from its very existence.

1stepcloser's picture

while your at it, I sent some Russian porn to a friend and she lost it.. Can you just forward that to

Last of the Middle Class's picture

Bring me the hard drive off of that crashed computer, I bet I can find something, or know somone who can. Bet you money it was reformateted, scanned and defraged about a dozen times and sleeps with the fishes. She's lying and should do at least 10 years no parole for destroying evidence. case closed.

Jerome Lester Horwitz's picture

It does not matter what happened to the hard drive on a computer. Microsoft Exchange stores the email on a server which is also backed up. They have the emails.

buzzsaw99's picture

that is a request that the nsa destroy all such files ;)

pupdog1's picture

There is huge, huge redundancy built into e-mail systems.

Have the gov geek claiming this bullshit brought before congress, and force him to sign his name to the claim.

Tell him how many years he's going to be living with bubba if proven wrong.

Go after the geeks and watch them squeal like piggies.

Then go full-tilt Cantor on every congressman who lets the IRS get away with this happy horsecock.

shovelhead's picture

Someone wake me up when someone goes to jail for contempt of Congress, and they seize records.

Dog and pony show.

truth serum's picture

If you want to get to the bottom of this you must ask Israel,( since they own the mainstream media)to release it to the sheeple..................... what do you think the chances for that are?

paint it red call it hell's picture

Loosing emails is a bull shit psyops ploy.


This BS story is all about convincing the public how useful NSA domestic spying is. See, spying is only used on the bad guys..............

bulldung's picture

Implicates the prez directly, will never be found.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Government needs you to (keep) paying taxes. . . so they can tyrannze you more completely.

ThisIsBob's picture

Nobody is stopping this government from doing anything they want.  They dont even need to care what you think anymore.

Robert of Ottawa's picture

Yes the shirking of law and responsibility is shocking ... and the encouragement of mass illegal immigration is truly treasonous.

Burticus's picture

There's another even homlier cunt who was involved in the IRS' scheme to deny tax-exempt status to groups opposed to their tyranny.  As I recall, this bitch is now in charge of the IRS' UsurperCare enforcement.  It seems that the Bushbama regime is protecting her, while throwing Lerner in front of the elephant stampede.

This skank bitch also needs to be smoked out and run through the mill by the elephant sock puppets on the CONgressional committee.

WB7 needs to paste both of their mugs in one of his masterpieces, maybe duo-smoking the K.U.'s (Kenyan Usurper's) mamba.

Joebloinvestor's picture

This is a GLARING EXAMPLE of how fucked up this country has become when the administration pulls these friday disclosures and the press doesn't say jack shit.



FredFlintstone's picture

Bad hair, bad make-up, poor wardrobe...Plastic bead necklace and bracelet? WTF, did her grand kids make that shit for her? How embarrassing for America our criminal government looks like it shops at Goodwill.


Uncle Remus's picture

She had her collection worn-out of Ben-was drilled and strung.