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The Obama Administration Is Forcing Local Cops To Stay Silent On Surveillance

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Submitted by Mike Krieger of Libertyblitzkrieg

The Obama Administration is Forcing Local Cops to Stay Silent on Surveillance

The criminality of the Obama Administration is at this point almost beyond description. Earlier this week I highlighted a shocking discovery in my post titled: The Obama Administration is Trying to Cover up the VA Scandal by Issuing Subpoenas to Whistle-Blower Sites. In that piece, it was noted that:

Instead, it’s lawyers from the President Barack Obama administration employing the power of the administrative subpoena in a bid to siphon data from POGO’s encrypted submission portal. POGO’s site encourages whistleblowers to use Tor as the gateway and has garnered more than 700 tips about abuse and mismanagement at the US Veterans Administration after less than a month of operation.

 The administrative subpoena, which does not require the Fourth Amendment standard of probable cause, comes as the number of so-called drop boxes from media organizations and other whistleblower groups is on the rise in the wake of the Edward Snowden revelations. The Washington Post and the Guardian were among the latest to deploy drop boxes on June 5. But no matter how securely encrypted the boxes might be, the subpoena is an old-school cracking tool that doesn’t require any electronic decryption methods.

Basically, the feds are so concerned that more truth about the VA scandal will get out there they have resorted to subpoenas to cover up as much as possible. Of course, considering that the entire Administration, and indeed the entire status quo in America, appears to be essentially a criminal syndicate, there is a naturally an endless stream of abuses that must be concealed from the plebs.

One thing that has become entirely clear since the Snowden revelations is the fact that the status quo in both political parties has absolutely zero intent on rolling back unconstitutional surveillance whatsoever. This became completely obvious recently when: Congress Gutted Anti-NSA Spying Bill Beyond Recognition; Original Cosponsor Justin Amash Voted No. Fortunately for those of us interested in transparency, some additional information is starting to come out regarding just how far these crooks are willing to go in order to spy on your every move and conversation.

From the AP, via Yahoo:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration has been quietly advising local police not to disclose details about surveillance technology they are using to sweep up basic cellphone data from entire neighborhoods, The Associated Press has learned.

Citing security reasons, the U.S. has intervened in routine state public records cases and criminal trials regarding use of the technology. This has resulted in police departments withholding materials or heavily censoring documents in rare instances when they disclose any about the purchase and use of such powerful surveillance equipment.

Yep, there’s that catch-all term again to justify anything, “security.”

Federal involvement in local open records proceedings is unusual. It comes at a time when President Barack Obama has said he welcomes a debate on government surveillance and called for more transparency about spying in the wake of disclosures about classified federal surveillance programs.

I’ve never, ever, in my life encountered a person who enjoys lying as much as Barack Obama.

One well-known type of this surveillance equipment is known as a Stingray, an innovative way for law enforcement to track cellphones used by suspects and gather evidence. The equipment tricks cellphones into identifying some of their owners’ account information, like a unique subscriber number, and transmitting data to police as if it were a phone company’s tower. That allows police to obtain cellphone information without having to ask for help from service providers, such as Verizon or AT&T, and can locate a phone without the user even making a call or sending a text message.

This is how they will bypass the telecom companies. Pure criminality.

Interviews, court records and public-records requests show the Obama administration is asking agencies to withhold common information about the equipment, such as how the technology is used and how to turn it on. That pushback has come in the form of FBI affidavits and consultation in local criminal cases.

“These extreme secrecy efforts are in relation to very controversial, local government surveillance practices using highly invasive technology,” said Nathan Freed Wessler, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, which has fought for the release of these types of records. “If public participation means anything, people should have the facts about what the government is doing to them.”

“It’s troubling to think the FBI can just trump the state’s open records law,” said Ginger McCall, director of the open government project at the Electronic Privacy Information Center. McCall suspects the surveillance would not pass constitutional muster.

In Sarasota, Florida, the U.S. Marshals Service confiscated local records on the use of the surveillance equipment, removing the documents from the reach of Florida’s expansive open-records law after the ACLU asked under Florida law to see the documents. The ACLU has asked a judge to intervene. The Marshals Service said it deputized the officer as a federal agent and therefore the records weren’t accessible under Florida law.

Most. Transparent. Ever.

Full article here.

 

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Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:18 | 4857599 Deathrips
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Is it only just...Obama?....really?

 

RIPS

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:23 | 4857610 CH1
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They're all liars and thieves.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:43 | 4857652 AlaricBalth
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June 14, 2014 - API
During an unprecedented system wide computer crash, every law enforcement agency in the United State has reported that all emails and data related to surveillance technology has been inexplicably lost. The unfortunate accident occurred shortly after a speech by President Obama, in which he reiterated his commitment to being "the most transparent Administration in US history". A spokesperson for the Justice Department has said, "We are certain the data can be retrieved with the help of our friends at the National Security Agency. We ask the press corp. to be patient as further updates will be forthcoming".

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:11 | 4857702 JLee2027
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Hey, one big solar is all it would take. Fry all the electronics back to the Stone Age for 6 months.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:17 | 4857711 Son of Loki
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"If you want to keep your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance."

 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:47 | 4857775 max2205
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Don't trust anyone in a suit

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:23 | 4857835 johngaltfla
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For those of you sick and tired of that self-righteous son of a bitch in DC (aren't they all) and the police state, I present to you a video for your viewing pleasure:

 

Los Angeles Kings Fans Demonstrate Proper Techniqe to Shoot Down a Police State Drone (VIDEO)
Sat, 06/14/2014 - 23:50 | 4857962 sushi
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NSA so totally predicted Putin's grab of Crimea and they were so on top of the ISIS move on Bagdad.

NSA wants another couple of trillion added to their budget, I say give six. Or even more!. NSA are the best value for dollar spent in the entire USSA government so much that they make the teleprompter in chief look like a complete bozo.

 

 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 04:17 | 4858098 asdasmos
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Posted Elsewhere:

"

1) The taxes are not worth the value being returned.

I don't have a problem paying taxes, so long as they go to something worthwhile. I will end up paying around 33% - an entire 1/3rd of my income - in my 2013 tax return. Yes, I am getting a refund, but when I am paying tens of thousands of dollars and not getting the services I should receive for that investment in my country, celebrating the return of a few hundred dollars seems absurd.

Where is my benefit from my government for all of this? Do I have free healthcare? No. Do I have a world class education for my child? No. Do I have any kind of guaranteed income should I lose my job? No.

No, instead, I have a country which is the only one in the world to tax its overseas citizens. A country that bails out banks who prey on those who just want a home to raise a family when they become insolvent - but when it happens to me, and I short sell my home, the IRS is there, ready to tax me on "phantom income" - forgiven debt.

I have a country that spends billions on fighting wars for political gain, but does nothing when there actually is evidence of WMD use against others. A country that hemorrhages so much money on military spending, it must turn around and take loans against my child's future - her income - in order to continue to pay for programs we don't need.

2) I'm tired of people being surprised that I'm American because I have manners, common courtesy, and the ability to see the other side of issues.

Seriously, the number of people I meet who think Americans are rascal-riding land whales (like in the movie Wall-E) with handle-bar mounted machine guns, a sack of Big Macs in the front basket, a clinical addiction to NASCAR, and a passion for the modern day artist that is Jerry Springer - it's just too much. I've been introducing myself as Canadian because apparently I'm so polite, that's where they mostly assume I'm from.

3) The fact that none of this is ever going to change, regardless of what party is in charge, and the fact that the American government continues to shred the constitution a little more each year, until it doesn't even matter anymore.

You may not think of America as a police state, but it is. Nobody's going to come grab you in the middle of the night, unless you're reported as a terrorist of some kind. At that point, just forget about "police work" and get ready for the SWAT team.

Nobody is going to take your children way from you, unless Child Protective Services is called, and someone decides - for whatever reason - that it's "in the child's best interest" to be removed.

Nobody is ever going to interfere with your access to medicine, unless you're trying to get something that isn't ridiculously expensive from another country; in that case, get ready for being charged as a drug trafficker.

Nobody is going to freeze your bank accounts, passport, and other means of movement, unless the IRS believes you haven't given them enough money. Suddenly you have debt to prove isn't there, and it will all get "sorted out" at the blistering fast speed of government efficiency. Or you could just pay the amount they say and it all ends quickly.

4) The fact that the future for my child in the US is so dark.

All this debt, and it's going to fall on her and her children. She's broke, and she doesn't even know it yet. Disgusting.

Well, I count myself fortunate that I don't own a home in the US - it affords me the ability to even consider leaving it all behind. There's so much propaganda about how wonderful America is but, when you look at it without those rosy lenses on, what you really see is horrifying.

"

 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 12:52 | 4858687 XitSam
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You got a tax refund? You loaned the government money at 0% interest. Less considering inflation, ie. you paid fedgov to keep your money.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 18:01 | 4859338 The Alarmist
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I guess this would be the Minerva Obligations revision to the old Miranda Warning ....

You have the obligation to remain silent; should you choose not to remain silent, anything you say will be used against you in whatever venue we deem appropriate.

You have no right to an attorney.

Do you understand these obligations?  Doesn't matter, as strict liability applies.

 

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 06:43 | 4860583 boogerbently
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They did the same thing with the law (STOCK), supposedly limiting Congress's ability to "inside trade".

 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 13:59 | 4858827 goldpercent
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Maybe you should consider having a problem with paying taxes.  I sure as hell do.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 11:38 | 4858489 goldpercent
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What about sport coats?   I really like all of the pockets.  Never trust anyone with too many pockets?  Often I will wear a suit when I fly.  I never get hassled and I get to seed discontent in the minds of a few of the TSA. (Terrorizing Stupid Americans) Suits can be a useful tool. I realize I am supporting your point.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 13:04 | 4858713 Emergency Ward
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Remember the "don't trust anyone over thirty" crowd?  They are all way over thirty now and saying, "trust us".

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:33 | 4857749 SF beatnik
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For six months? How about for a thousand years?

I wonder how our elites will fare as hunter gattherers

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 15:28 | 4859005 sessinpo
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SF beatnik      For six months? How about for a thousand years?  I wonder how our elites will fare as hunter gattherers

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Now take yourself back thousands of years. Wouldn't you say the more successful hunter gatherers were the elites of their tribe? The wealth of the time was food and protection.

Now bring yourself back to modern times. And the elite are the most successful hunters and gatherers of today's environment. They have the most economic freedom. Get the picture.

They adjust. Can we?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:13 | 4857823 cynicalskeptic
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You can bet NSA facilities are well shielded.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 00:29 | 4857995 Citxmech
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And they'll have nothing to surveil.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 10:37 | 4858360 skidsmango1
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...just spit beer on my monitor reading that.  Thanks for the laugh, errr...

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:33 | 4857632 Xanadu_doo
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Every. Single. One.

Blue or Red, it matters not.

We all know that by  now, yes?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:34 | 4857633 booboo
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So you voted for him twice and feeling a big queasy about it are ya? Yea that's a spot even Ajax won't remove but have you learned anything?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:07 | 4857697 djsmps
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I didn't vote for him either time. The last time I voted for a major party
candidate was Clinton. And I regret that now.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:47 | 4857773 NoDebt
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Back when the original Patriot Act was passed under GWB my very first throught was "30 years from now, they're going to be abusing the hell outta this law to track, surveil and prosecute US citizens."

I was wrong.  It took less than 10 and the abuse is already beyond my wildest nightmares.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:23 | 4857602 AmCockerSpaniel
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If you don't know why the government will never stop the NSA, my I point the way.... J Edger Hoover did it first.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:35 | 4857752 SF beatnik
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But they're probably not so clever as J. Edgar.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:56 | 4857796 NoDebt
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J Edgar would have given his left nut for tools like we have now.  If had this kind of technology at his disposal back then he would have been America's first "Il Presidente for Life".

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:18 | 4857830 cynicalskeptic
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BTW - ALL the data collected by the license plate readers you see on your local cop cars is kept FOREVER and passed upwards.  You may have THOUGHT they were used to scan for plate numbers on alerts or with outstanding warrants but NO..... EVERYTHING is read and kept.  And if they rea your plate and confise it with something there's an alert on you can be stopped and arrested - or worse.   Has already happened to people.

You can build a good model of travel habits between those and EZPass and such.  The equipment is already in place to use toll passes for writing speeding tickets and more - just awaitng legal justification.  Orwell grossly underestimated what would happen.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:25 | 4857839 Grouchy Marx
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It's almost certainly the reason behind Justice Roberts voting in favor of the ACA. 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:21 | 4857606 alexcojones
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Here in AZ, Joe Arpaio ain't staying silent.

 

 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:24 | 4857617 CH1
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Joe Arpaio is a sadist.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:46 | 4857659 economics9698
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And how would you handle your city overrun by violent drug goons and wetbacks?  We are all smart until it is time for action.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:29 | 4857741 SilverIsKing
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I guess I would call the police.

Officer Smith and Officer Wesson.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:32 | 4857630 rubiconsolutions
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Joe Arpaio is a narcissist dick. If he gave a shit about the constitution he'd boot TSA out of Sky Harbor Airport but like every other sheriff in this country is a statist power hungry prick. 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 13:12 | 4858722 XitSam
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Maricopa County has paid out over $45 million in judgements because Joe cannot keep his detention officers and deputies from killing people.

He is the worst sort of good old boy southern sheriff.  People outside AZ that only know about him from Fox News and similar sources are being deceived.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:06 | 4858835 Frankie Carbone
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Remember Rubicon, we have pricks here that are every bit as bad as the statists in that they don't give a flying fuck about the Constitution, or personal liberty, but will pay lip service here because they fear that they will get smoked in the next civil war if it happens (and they should be afraid, they're not fooling anyone, ALL totalitarians are going to run in fear, Red, Blue, camophlaged, whatever, if you oppose liberty and due process then YOU are the problem. That was an AND in the last statement, not an OR) but they're too clever by half. 

They speak of liberty and then praise a douchefuck like Joe Arpaio. 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:49 | 4858927 Frankie Carbone
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I wonder which Arpaio choadchugger neg-repped me? 

 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:36 | 4857639 seek
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Yeah, he is. I've seen some pretty compelling evidence they're using a stingray for Project Rose, and there's no way that could happen without him knowing.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:24 | 4857613 DirkDiggler11
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Obumma will be judged in the end.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 00:48 | 4858005 Andre
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I thought his end was being judged a lot already.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:25 | 4857620 nmewn
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"Nobody is listening to your telephone calls,..."Barack Hussein Obama June 2013.

The consummate liar.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:54 | 4857790 NoDebt
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Old phrase my Grandfather used to use seems appropriate for Obama:  "That guy would lie even if telling the truth served a better purpose."

About the only thing I think he's ever told the truth about is when he said he would "fundamentally transform America."  He sure as shit didn't lie about that.  I don't recognize the place any more. 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:11 | 4857819 nmewn
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Yeah, he didn't divulge much about once they got beyond the terminus of Cloward–Piven and I (as his opponent standing aside and watching with amusement...lol) am not going to say what mine is just yet either.

But its not the same as his ;-)

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:25 | 4857622 alexcojones
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I'm old enough to remember when Nixon had an Enemies List.

Barry will need an encyclopedia by the time he is done.

AC

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:42 | 4857649 Peter Pan
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You mean he will need the national telephone directory or better still the electoral roll. LOL. Even bogus voters will be against him by then.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:36 | 4857753 SF beatnik
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Richard Nixon:  Now more than ever.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:32 | 4857631 Peter Pan
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There is perhaps one way for the little people to make their anger felt. And that is to eliminate every unnecessay use of the telephone, mobile phone, computer etc. The dramatic fall off in revenue to telcos will cause great hurt. It is these sort of messages that get our point across.

ZH will not be affected by my decision to reduce usage as accessing this site is deemed a necessity.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:14 | 4857708 AlaricBalth
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The only way those in power will experience anger from the "little people" is when the free shit stops flowing. Otherwise, they are too busy posting selfies in FB, watching the idiot box or shopping for useless crap, attempting fill an empty hole in what is left of their souls. The anger being expressed here in ZH is like preaching to the choir. Many of us are trying to inform and educate our friends and families, yet we are considered alarmists and conspiracy theorists by those we are trying to help. It is quite exasperating at times.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:32 | 4857742 10mm
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And it's time to stop trying to educate and inform. They will hang you and I out to dry. Not everyone is on board. You been warned.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:34 | 4857750 fonzannoon
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i passed alarmist about 2 years ago. now i am the guy that is "just fun to have around". There could not be a worse or more accurate insult.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 09:00 | 4858229 messymerry
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Me too, I've given up trying to wake people up.  Let's all move to New Hampshire... I bet they will cede one tiny little state...

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:14 | 4858855 Frankie Carbone
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You're gonna get swarmed with New Yorkers and Massholes foraging for food when this thing comes apart. Good luck with that. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:37 | 4863427 messymerry
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That's ok, they couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. Besides all they are allowed to have are pea shooters.

I'm open to suggestions...

;-D

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:13 | 4858852 Frankie Carbone
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Those that can read, but don't, are no better off than then those that can't. ~ Mark Twain. 

This is the true meaning behind FUNCTIONALLY illiteracy. If you accept that definition, then in the realm of politics and human relations, about 95-98% of the American population is functionally illiterate. 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:16 | 4857712 PeakOil
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Good point.

In a similar vein, my cable provider was stunned by my dropping television service 3 years ago. Have not given up trying to entice me back though. At least a dozen "special-deal" letters since I went internet only. Who needs TV with bittorrent and VPN available.

What part of "I don't want your steenkin' programming" do they fail to comprehend?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:31 | 4857743 SilverIsKing
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What part? That would be the word "don't."

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:17 | 4858859 Frankie Carbone
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I'm sure they're lobbying congress to fix that problem. 

National Cable Televison Act of 2015. If you like your cable provider then you can keep your cable provider. 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 21:33 | 4859835 Milestones
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cancelled

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:18 | 4857719 PhilofOz
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I expected that would happen with the airline industry in the USA with the actions of the fanatic DHS feeling up even grannies in wheelchairs and little kids. Has their revenue dropped off? Has the US tourism industry suffered as a whole for it? Damned if I will ever set foot in the USA having to jump through hoops for these power mad scum and the feeling I'd be stepping into a police state. I know plenty of people that once had a visit to the USA as one of their top wishes saying they have no intention of ever going as things are now. I had never seen advertisements on Aussie TV for US tourism until a few months ago where we were bombarded in one section at least of our media to go visit California. Desperate days!

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:44 | 4857756 SF beatnik
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Lots of angry, petty people in the USA.  Very easy to fill those airport screener jobs. It only gets worse.

And now I hear that even the airline stewardesses are enjoying a taste of power. Seems passengers can no longer pee on coast-to-coast flights. Always air turbulence now. Must remain in your seat for the duration.

WTF?  Global warming? Are the airlines cutting toilet paper costs?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:10 | 4857818 litemine
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I do notice that turbulance does keep me more in the seat. I want to get up more now because of the way I get packed into the the smaller space? More passangers when using the toilet could fill the tanks and they are saving money on that........seeing if they could reduce tank size? Or some could use item below?

Then we could pee when we need to ,  drain when conveinent. 

Just a little trouble with leaks or ruptures........But the airline could sprink coffe down for the smell..............Call the new flights "Economy outhouse flights" a total reduction of service...........only to get worse with fuel surcharges........thanks to OIL PRICES which are going up.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:26 | 4858869 Frankie Carbone
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I work for a multinational and we have centers across the globe. When my overseas colleagues come here they say that entry is the biggest headache of any nation that they travel too. My experience too. When I go to the EU, security is tight, but professional and generally respectful. When I fly back the first face I meet is a goon with his knuckles barely off the floor, hammering me with 50 questions in a hostile, authoritative voice trying to catch me in a gotcha, just so he might have the chance to shove his finger up my ass. 

 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:54 | 4857791 litemine
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No, sorry I disagree. That would just leave less info for them to filter though. What everyone as a revolt should do is send out so many message that they flood the systems and add catch words like Kill, Bomb, hate the government, Fucking assholes at NSA . Corropt Warmongering CIA and then add others like the families of the PTB should hang, The parents of the Elite class should have been sterlized as should Americans that for money will incriminate other Americans...I could go on and On.....

That would trigger some to read each article so when you add little notes saying how the peole reading this , other that Zerohedge members are helping destoy our Countrys as well as  the World and how we want to see them hang. Maybe when the chips are down some of the more honest members will have slight confusions about what is morally right and the may turn their guns around?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 09:11 | 4858242 NoWayJose
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I am on the side of stopping cell phone and emails. If anything, that would make the NSA more suspicious so they will waste time trying to figure out what you are up to! Of course, it might also be fun to type in random characters so that it looks like you are sending an encrypted message, and keep replying to each other. The cryptographers at NSA will spend a lot of time trying to de-crypt it.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:34 | 4857635 joego1
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A couple of more years and he is no longer pres. Open season then.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:44 | 4857657 fonzannoon
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you are an optomist.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:03 | 4857811 joego1
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Maybe so, I saw Ron Paul as our last chance a few years back and the wheels are still on the bus. I have a feeling we will all be substantially worse off as  election time comes. There could be some chance for a protest vote and some real change. If not I'm ready to tough it out. I have to hold on to some optimism for my grandkids sake.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:47 | 4857771 SF beatnik
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A couple of more years and he is no longer pres. Open season then.

 

Gee, I can hardly wait. Hillary, Bush 3. Let's see now, who will it be?

 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:39 | 4857645 kowalli
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people not ever know real rules of police state...matrix world... lies and lies

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:40 | 4857647 A Lunatic
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This is the direct result of a world full of good men doing nothing......

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:47 | 4857666 infinity8
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Boy, did you say a mouthful.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:11 | 4857698 BigJim
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The 'good men' didn't do nothing. They kept voting for creeps like Obama and Bush.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:55 | 4857795 A Lunatic
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I said good men. Not metrosexual, ass kissing morons........

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:21 | 4857834 nmewn
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If its any solace, the metro's will come groveling before us for what they've done and could have been, seeking help from another because they cannot do for themselves.

Its an unfortunate circumstance for them, they'll all be in one place ;-)

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 23:24 | 4857930 RafterManFMJ
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Hope they like the taste of **** 'cause that's all I'll have on offer.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:29 | 4858884 Frankie Carbone
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I think that you can generalize that to "cowardly fucks that are afraid to deviate from conformity". What makes me sick is that they are fathers, and they WILLINGLY allow this world to evolve into something that will be an unbearable nightmare for their children. 

They are shitty dads and should be spat upon.

 

Cowardly adult children raising even more dysfunctional children. We're screwed I tell ya', screwed. 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 19:20 | 4859461 yellowsub
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Says otherwise on their FB status from their significant other today!

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:21 | 4857656 nmewn
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"An assistant chief patrol agent, Eligio "Lee" Pena, warned more than 3,000 Border Patrol agents that journalists looking for information about what Obama has described as a humanitarian crisis are likely to ask for information and "may try to disguise themselves" (edit: lol...the paranoia is strong with this one).

The email, obtained by The Associated Press, said agents should not speak to reporters, on or off duty, without advanced permission and warned that anyone who does could be charged with a crime or disciplined administratively."

And what would be the nature of "the crime" and what charges "could be" filed by the state against one of its own...we talkin high crimes & misdemeanors here...felonies or what...Mr. Assistant Chief Patrol Agent Pena?

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765654963/Border-agents-in-Texas-warned-not-to-talk-to-media.html

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More...

Border Patrol Union Mocks Immigrant Children On Twitter

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/14/border-patrol-mocks_n_5495316.html

Look for the union label ;-)

Still trying to figure out how pre-teens can make a dangerous passage through Mexico (looks like they're coming mostly from Guatemala, El Salvador etc.) and scale razor wire fences at the border without Obama & the NSA or Mexico not knowing about it until they read about it in the morning paper...shocking right?...lol.

Yell Fore! next time O'Barry.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:54 | 4857670 Chupacabra-322
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The Emperor really wears Absolutely No Clothes. Nothing different that Historians haven't seen before from the like of past Fascists.

Musulini, Hitler, Mao. Pot & others just to name a few. All met the same demise. Will not be any different in the very near future.

The Elite cowards understand that. They also understand they will be hanging from light posts & stoned from below as well.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:17 | 4857717 Seize Mars
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Chupacara

Nothing different that Historians haven't seen before...

Well there is one difference. For example under the old regime in France, under the King it was legal to say that the King is indeed, the King.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poJ-_80_JWg

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 09:17 | 4858250 doctor10
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At the end of the day -that's all that "Homeland Security" is really abput-making it "safe" for the "Elite Cowards"

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 20:58 | 4857680 km4
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I’ve never, ever, in my life encountered a person who enjoys lying as much as Barack Obama.

+100

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:03 | 4857683 fishwharf
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Yes, Obummer is a habitual liar.  The most truthful president in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter, and look where it got him.  He was, and is to this day, ridiculed by pompous pundits of the political class as being hopelessly naive.  While Jimmy Carter, like all of us, is not a perfect human being, every president since him has been a pathological liar.  Lying effortlessly, without twitching a muscle.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:51 | 4857782 SF beatnik
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Yeah, Carter was the only President who I felt might, in another life,  make a kind, honest, reliable friend. 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:12 | 4857822 cynicalskeptic
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Carter TRIED to rein in the CIA - sacked a bunch of the 'Old Guard' and was kneecapped.  I suppose he's lucky to have lived through his Presidency given past history.  EVERY Presidential candidate since has been vetted by the CIA - and most who've served have deep ties to the Company.  The Bushes - it's obvious.  Less so Clinton but Mena AK was a hub for CONTRA activity and drug smuggling.  Obama's family history raises innumerable questions - he may be the ultimate Manchurian Candidate.   BTW - look at how Reagan changed his tune on any number of issues once he got the nomination - and funny how he got shot when talking about reducing the size of government (HW ran foreign affairs under all of Ronnnie's Presidency and the whole mess after Ronnie was shot).

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:05 | 4857692 AdvancingTime
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 For years Americans have been more concerned for their safety then necessary, could be because we are a coddled bunch. Looking across the world we live in one of the safer and more secure nations, yet many Americans claim that they live in fear of being attacked. In an opinion piece written by Ted Koppel and printed in the WSJ on August 7th, titled;  "America's Chronic Overreaction To Terrorism" Kopple delves  into terrorism over the last several decades. Some readers thought Koppel was acting as a mouth piece for Obama but in fact Obama is in no hurry to stop the NSA program. 

Kopple wrote; Terrorism, after all, is designed to produce overreaction. It is the means by which the weak induce the powerful to inflict damage upon themselves. At home, the U.S. has constructed an anti-terrorism enterprise so immense, so costly and so inexorably interwoven with the defense establishment, police and intelligence agencies, communications systems, and with social media, travel networks and their attendant security apparatus, that the idea of downsizing, let alone disbanding such a construct, is an exercise in futility. More on this subject in the article below.

 http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/08/americans-should-show-little-spin...

 

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:55 | 4857889 honestann
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Anyone truly concerned about their safety would never sanction, support or vote for "government".  Only a complete moron could possibly be unaware that predators-DBA-governments are ALWAYS the greatest danger to safety.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 12:47 | 4858679 Emergency Ward
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Bin Laden knew the story of the Tar Baby.  Osama is the Tar Baby and B'rer Bush and B'rer Obama, in arrogant rage, cannot stop punching.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:11 | 4857701 kchrisc
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Different place, same totalitarianism:

 

 

The Nazi state in fact alleviated many of the frustrations the police experienced in the Weimar Republic. The Nazis shielded the police from public criticism by censoring the press. They ended street fighting by eliminating the Communist threat. Police manpower was even extended by the incorporation of Nazi paramilitary organizations as auxiliary policemen.

The Nazis centralized and fully funded the police to better combat criminal gangs and promote state security. The Nazi state increased staff and training, and modernized police equipment.

The Nazis offered the police the broadest latitude in arrests, incarceration, and the treatment of prisoners. The police moved to take "preventive action," that is, to make arrests without the evidence required for a conviction in court and indeed without court supervision at all...

The Nazis took control and transformed the traditional police forces of the Weimar Republic into an instrument of state repression and, eventually, of genocide.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005464

 

History does not repeat, the crimes of government do.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:13 | 4857706 Porous Horace
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It's become quite clear that the federal government is actively at war with the American people.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:24 | 4857731 ISEEIT
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And it's equally clear that we're losing.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 00:39 | 4857997 kchrisc
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I am not losing.

I have taken steps to 1)Weaken the enemy--quit paying, quit obeying and quit playing; 2) Actively think about how to fight the enemy--read their training manuals, read books on insurrections, observe the enemy, etc.,; 3) Build an arsenal and supplies; 4) Most importantly I am preparing my mind and body for what is coming. And I have built a guillotine.

The key is to switch your mind to an active "I can, and I will" attitude from one of a defeatist nature of "I can't." They are going to bring the fight to you, and you will have only two choices, to surrender and die a slave or fight for your freedom.

Die free or live free, I will win.

"See you on the battlefield, as I'm not 'going 'camping'."

 

 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 12:17 | 4858607 BeetleBailey
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Not all of us. The ones that;

take nothing from the government, and still practice TAX AVOIDANCE...paying as little as possible....legally...using their own codes

shop local....credit unions....small "footprint" as possible...form alliances with other self-sufficient families/individuals....

self-sufficient, reliant and have a plan of exit/evac when the SHTF..and it will..

no debt...fuck the credit score (wanker/banker shit)...nothing "owed"...

but LOTS of bodies to stack when the time comes.....lots....

because imo....75% of this country's population is NOT prepared in any way whatsoever.....

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 14:38 | 4858893 Frankie Carbone
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It's more like 90-95%. I work in an environment of literally geniuses (engineering R&D - very high tech stuff that would bake most people's noodle) and though brilliant with math and physics, their left brains shut off when talking about "the world". In this environment, where the average IQ is probably 130, I'd say the "fully awake rate" is 5-10% at best. 

Now think about the first 50% of the population distribution, (where the mean IQ is 100) and HALF the public is below that mean. They're completely gone and we'll never be able to reach them. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 12:01 | 4865364 BeetleBailey
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you are probably right Frankie....fuckin sad nonetheless

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:14 | 4857707 DirkDiggler11
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How long exactly should one boil the rope ?

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 23:27 | 4857934 RafterManFMJ
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Depends on the number / mass of the banksters in the pot with the rope.

Rule of thumb, boil till movement and noise ceases, then add 10 minutes just to be sure.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 21:57 | 4857798 telefunken
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YOU can seize all the power you want but if you are so pathetically incompetent it's not goint to last. Somebody has to run things.

  Oh, in regards to the article the cops could just inform the public-they are just as guilty.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:00 | 4857807 shovelhead
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I think they fart in our general direction.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:12 | 4857821 Docnyc
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It's called a dutch oven.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:12 | 4857820 adr
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I went to a parade today and was astounded by the police presence. Bomb squad with disposal unit, cops in body armor, bomb sniffing dogs, portable sniper towers, cameras everywhere, and even a mobile command center with sattelite uplink. Hundreds of uniformed cops all over the place and probably more plain clothed.

I was there with my 5 year old and feared pointing at floats out of fear of making it look like I had a gun. Other people may have not noticed the two men standing in a tower behind bullet proof glass sticking long barreled rifles through gun ports, but I did.

Theres a difference between making people feel safe and total oppression. Sniper towers at a parade goes too far.

I brought this fact up with a family we went with and the reply was. "Well with a school shooting every day maybe it is a good idea." The false flag barrage is having the effect they want.

Sat, 06/14/2014 - 22:32 | 4857847 bunnyswanson
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/13/sandy-hook-redux-obama-officials...

(1) it had been a drill;

(2) no children had been killed; and,

(3) it had been done to promote an anti-gun agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJFf3ayQb8A

 

Order out of chaos.  end justifies the means.  Here is the plan:  The country is bankrupted and as soon as the guns are collected, the people will be as they are now giving up everything in their possession, past, present and future for the good of the nation.  Mission accomplished.  This is a war that never ended in 1776.  It only became covert.  Tell them that. 

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 12:40 | 4858671 Emergency Ward
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Any of those kinds of parades with floats will be replaced with new State Security Parades with goose-stepping LEOs and Predator drones on trailers with the grand marshall being an official of some federal security agency riding in a heavily armored GM Escalade with blacked out windows.  So you can't see who it is.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 00:55 | 4858010 robnume
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Lying, fucking dirtbag!! This guy loves being the "Thief in Chief".

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 01:04 | 4858013 Duude
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From the  video above I wrote down the whole speech in order to weed out each and every promise Barack Obama kept for at least one year out of the 5.5 years he's now been in office.   Unfortunately, I couldn't honestly provide one full statement but I have managed to extricate one partial  promise  Obama has managed  to fulfill and keep for the entire 5.5 years he's been in office:    "When I'm President,.........."

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 09:15 | 4858249 NoWayJose
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Nixon got caught because he used the tools of the day to 'spy' on Democrats. Does anyone think that the motivation to do so has gone away? Only this time the tools are a lot better.

And does Merkel really think the NSA has stopped tapping into her cell phone?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 11:28 | 4858478 Atomizer
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Sorry Obama, I have to comply with the DHS. Will this act become illegal through new EO measures?

"If You See Something, Say Something" Public Service Announcements

http://www.dhs.gov/if-you-see-something-say-something-public-service-announcements

How much longer do you think you have until the house of cards fall?

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 11:40 | 4858504 Atomizer
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Once you're legally removed from the equation, Everyone will prosper for a better lifestyle.

Sun, 06/15/2014 - 12:11 | 4858588 novictim
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This is about the Deep State more than any individual, even a sell-out stooge like Barach Obambam.

"The Deep State does not consist of the entire government. It is a hybrid of national security and law enforcement agencies: the Department of Defense, the Department of State, the Department of Homeland Security, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Justice Department. I also include the Department of the Treasury because of its jurisdiction over financial flows, its enforcement of international sanctions and its organic symbiosis with Wall Street. All these agencies are coordinated by the Executive Office of the President via the National Security Council. Certain key areas of the judiciary belong to the Deep State, such as the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, whose actions are mysterious even to most members of Congress.

 

Also included are a handful of vital federal trial courts, such as the Eastern District of Virginia and the Southern District of Manhattan, where sensitive proceedings in national security cases are conducted. The final government component (and possibly last in precedence among the formal branches of government established by the Constitution) is a kind of rump Congress consisting of the congressional leadership and some (but not all) of the members of the defense and intelligence committees. The rest of Congress, normally so fractious and partisan, is mostly only intermittently aware of the Deep State and when required usually submits to a few well-chosen words from the State’s emissaries."

-http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

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