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Fourth Turning Accelerating

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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform blog,

“In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain reaction. At home and abroad, these events will reflect the tearing of the civic fabric at points of extreme vulnerability –problem areas where America will have neglected, denied, or delayed needed action.” - 

The Fourth Turning - Strauss & Howe – 1997

This past week saw an event revealing the cluelessness and ignorance of the linear thinking establishment. They are oblivious to the cyclicality of history and unaware of their precarious situation, as the mood of the country and the world portends their demise. Eric Cantor, the ultimate establishment neo-con Republican House Majority Leader, was crushed in a primary by a completely unknown economics professor, outspent by Cantor $4.9 million to $123,000. Cantor spent more at steakhouses than David Brat spent on his entire campaign. Cantor, a lackey for Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Israel, and dozens of other mega-corporations, was the first House Majority leader defeated in a primary since the position was created in the 1890s. He won his last primary by 60%.

This was as big a shock to the Republican establishment as it was to the Democratic establishment, the mainstream corporate media establishment, and the Tea Party establishment that didn’t provide David Brat one red cent of their vast horde of contributions. They are now scrambling to generate a storyline explaining this unexplainable development as if it was entirely predictable. These wealthy, myopic, propaganda peddling, purveyors of the status quo just felt the foundation of their world shudder beneath them. Like a volcano, with pressure building within, the world as we know it is about to blow. Who gets devastated by the massive explosion and flow of molten lava is yet to be determined, but there is nothing the establishment can do to stop the eruption. This entire Deep State hierarchy has been developed over decades, as they have flawlessly implemented Edward Bernays teachings from the Propaganda playbook.

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” – Edward Bernays – Propaganda – 1928

The linear thinkers, who constitute the invisible government and unelected true ruling power, are flabbergasted their game plan, which has worked for the last seven decades, is failing to have the usual sway over the normally compliant masses. Lies, misinformation, deception, propaganda, easy debt, cheap oil, endless commercial expansion, relentless marketing, never ending war, politicians selected by bankers and mega-corporations, tax code created to benefit the .01%, and laws written by the lobbyists for the oligarchs designed to control the plebs and enrich the modern aristocracy, made the world go round until 2008. Linear thinkers in government, business, banking and media have been perpetuating the falsehood of a return to normalcy, recovery, and linear progress. They are willfully ignorant of history because acknowledging its cyclicality would be admitting how precarious their positions of power, wealth, and control truly are.

History does not proceed in a straight line of forward advancement. It has a seasonal nature geared to the 80 year life cycle of human beings. The most basic lesson of history is we never seem to learn the lessons of history. A period of Crisis arrives like Winter, approximately 60 years after the resolution of the prior Crisis, with a climax occurring approximately 80 years after the prior Crisis climax. The generational dynamics based upon human life cycles have lined up once again into Crisis mode. Anyone who hasn’t sensed the mood change in the country since 2008, hasn’t been paying attention. The linear thinking establishment refuses to accept the inevitability of their existing paradigm collapsing in a chaotic whirlwind of violence, death on a grand scale and decisive war. The existing social order is always swept away during a Fourth Turning.

Saeculum (climax year) Crisis (Full Era) Time from one Crisis climax to next Crisis climax
Revolutionary (1781) American Revolution(1773–1794)
Civil War (1863) Civil War(1860–1865) 82 years
Great Power (1944) Great Depressionand World War II(1929-1946) 81 years
Millennial (2025?) Global Financial Crisis(2008–2029?) 81 years?

The Global Financial Crisis, which began in September 2008, marked the beginning of a likely two decade long episode of fierce winter-like blizzard conditions that will get progressively worse as this Fourth Turning churns toward its bloody climax. The evil wealthy men and their paid off pawns in politics and the media who constitute the invisible government, governing behind the scenes, molding minds, forming tastes and suggesting ideas to the gullible masses, will not relinquish their wealth and power without a fight. They have been utilizing all emergency monetary and fiscal levers, while conducting a data disinformation campaign and utilizing their control of the dying legacy media to keep the masses distracted, entertained and confused.

The establishment has convinced a vast swath of the public to actually believe 0% interest rates for the last 5 years, adding $1 trillion per year to the already Himalayan national debt, allowing the Federal Reserve buy $3 trillion of toxic debt from their Wall Street banking cabal owners, while creating a high rate of inflation in energy, food, healthcare and tuition costs, and negative growth in real wages, is somehow beneficial to them and reflects a return to normalcy. The current state of our economic, financial, political and judicial systems, along with the fraying social fabric of society reflects EXTREME dysfunction and in no way exhibits anything resembling a normal state of affairs. The government apparatchiks, corporate media talking heads, Wall Street captured economists, and lackeys for billionaire oligarchs are highly paid liars using every Bernaysian trick to manipulate the beliefs, desires, and prejudices of the willfully ignorant masses. They capitalize on the cognitive dissonance and normalcy bias being practiced by the majority of people in the country. Like a dog chasing its tail, they have the public up in arms about meaningless social issues and ignoring the looting of the country by sociopathic bankers.

Those in power need to sell their storyline of advancement, despite the overwhelming evidence of a societal implosion and economic regression for the 99.99%. They need to distract the masses with inconsequential emotional issues like gay marriage, mass murderers, climate change, party politics, racism, and phantom terror threats, so the masses don’t focus on how badly they are being screwed by the One Party invisible government. For those who have been too dumbed down by our government public education system to even comprehend anything beyond a third grade level, we have The Kardashians, Bridezilla, Duck Dynasty, I Didn’t Know I Was Pregnant, iGadgets, Twitter, Facebook, professional sports, Hollywood blockbusters, and toxic fast food paid for with your EBT card. Our world is besieged by triviality, plagued by idiocy, inundated with propaganda, and consumed with consumption.

In a country of 318 million people, the few believe they must mold the minds of the masses in order for society to function smoothly. Of course this is a huge lie. They need to mold those minds in order to retain their power, wealth, control. They are focused on the daily dose of lies, mistruths, disinformation, and distractions required to keep the masses anesthetized. They have ignored the lessons of history and the big picture driving the Crisis events which will change the world over the next fifteen years. Fourth Turnings don’t calm down, fizzle out, or revert to what happened in the prior twenty years, just as the unyielding harsh Winter cannot revert to the glorious days of Fall or the sweltering days of Summer. There is no escaping the dire, deadly and dangerous times directly ahead of us.

“Reflect on what happens when a terrible winter blizzard strikes. You hear the weather warning but probably fail to act on it. The sky darkens. Then the storm hits with full fury, and the air is a howling whiteness. One by one, your links to the machine age break down. Electricity flickers out, cutting off the TV. Batteries fade, cutting off the radio. Phones go dead. Roads become impossible, and cars get stuck. Food supplies dwindle. Day to day vestiges of modern civilization – bank machines, mutual funds, mass retailers, computers, satellites, airplanes, governments – all recede into irrelevance. Picture yourself and your loved ones in the midst of a howling blizzard that lasts several years. Think about what you would need, who could help you, and why your fate might matter to anybody other than yourself. That is how to plan for a saecular winter. Don’t think you can escape the Fourth Turning. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and economic environment that you now take for granted.” – Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning

Strauss and Howe wrote their epic historical treatise in 1997 and their predictions, based upon centuries of generational analysis, have been uncannily accurate. The predictions are not event based, but based upon generational mood and core elements of Crisis, which were predictable over a decade before the 2008 start to this Crisis. The core elements of Debt, Civic Decay, and Global Disorder were evident to anyone with a functioning critical thinking brain, not in the employ of the establishment. These core elements are front and center today, as the Fourth Turning gains momentum like a gathering winter storm. The captured mainstream media does their utmost to obscure, downplay, and ignore these issues, but alternative truth telling websites like Zero Hedge, Mike Krieger’s Liberty Blitzkrieg, Mike Shedlock, John Rubino’s Dollar Collapse, Jim Kunstler, John Hussman, Jesse’s Cafe Americain, Charles Hugh Smith, Karl Denninger, and number of other freedom minded websites keep the spark of truth alive for those seeking it. A perusal of headlines from these sites over the last week or so provides the true nature of this worsening Fourth Turning Crisis:


Mindblowing Fact Of The Day: China Has Over 52 Million Vacant Homes

The Subprime Auto-Lending Credit Bubble Is Bursting

China HSBC PMI Misses; Economy Contracts For 5th Month In A Row

Will Spain Default?

Fed Prepares to Maintain Record Balance Sheet for Years

Steve Forbes Warns Of Economic “Catastrophe” Due To Fed’s Dollar Debasement

Obama Unveils Student Loan Debt Bubble Bailout

America’s Insatiable Demand For More Expensive Cars, Larger Homes And Bigger Debts

China Scrambling After “Discovering” Thousands Of Tons Of Rehypothecated Copper, Aluminum Missing

Western Banks Scramble As China’s “Rehypothecation Evaporation” Goes Global

Consumer Credit Has Fifth Biggest Monthly Jump In History; Revolving Credit Soars By Most Since November 2007

Abenomics’ Legacy: Japan’s Greatest “Misery” In 33 Years

NIRP Has Arrived: Europe Officially Enters The “Monetary Twilight Zone”

EU Warns Greece Is “A Cause Of Serious Concern” As Top Tax-Collector Resigns

Why Central Bank Stimulus Cannot Bring Economic Recovery

Summer Gas Prices Highest Since 2011 As Oil Hits 9-Month Highs

It Was A Reeeeeally Bad Winter: JPM Cuts Q1 GDP From -1.1% To -1.6%

How The Fed Feeds The Sharks, While Shafting Wage Earners And Savers

Fed’s Bubble Finance Is Primary Cause of Massive Wealth Gains At The Top

Former ECB Chief Economist Says Central Bank Run Monetary System Is “Pure Fiction”

More On The China Property Bubble: April New Housing Starts Down 25%; Beijing/Shanghai Sales Down 50%

What Happens After The Bubble Bursts: 85% Of Pension Funds Could Fail Due To An Era Of Niggardly Returns

Civic Decay

Across America, Police Departments Are Quietly Preparing For War

Meet The “Minerva Research Initiative” – The Pentagon’s Preparation For “Mass Civil Breakdown”

The Obama Administration Is Forcing Local Cops To Stay Silent On Surveillance

In 33 U.S. Cities, Feeding The Homeless Has Been Criminalized

Obama Popularity Plunges To New Low: “No Longer Likeable Enough”

Historic Loss: House Majority Leader Cantor Loses Virginia Primary To Tea Party’s Brat

Suspect Yells “Tell The Police, The Revolution Has Started” Before Shooting Spree In Las Vegas WalMart

Two Thirds Of Gen X Households Have Less Wealth Than Their Parents Did At The Same Age

7 In 10 Americans Believe The Crisis Is Not Over Or Worst Is Yet To Come: 52% Can’t Afford Their Homes

1 In 4 Obamacare Signups Are Faulty – But, We Are Sure Obama Never Knew Anything About It Until Now

Fed Warns The Plunge In “Routine” Jobs Won’t Slow Down Anytime Soon

US Finally Recovers All Jobs Lost Since 2007 While People Not In Labor Force Increase By 12.8 Million

Two-Thirds Of Americans Do Not Back Obama’s Decision On Bergdahl

Hiring In The US Remains Far Below Pre-Recession Levels

Half The Country Makes Less Than $27,520 A Year And 15 Other Signs The Middle Class Is Dying

The Rich Get Richest: Household Net Worth Rises To All Time High Courtesy Of $67 Trillion In Financial Assets

Challenger Job Cuts Soar 45%; Most Layoffs Since Feb 2013

It’s Not Just Europe; As Many As 16 California Counties May Seek Secession From The State

America’s Insanely Complex And Endemically Corrupt Tax Code: Mother Lode Of Crony Capitalist Plunder

Global Disorder

Al-Qaeda Jihadis Loot Over $400 Million From Mosul Central Bank, Seize Saddam’s Hometown

Al Qaeda Militants Capture US Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

Iraq Update: Kurds Take Kirkuk, Al Qaeda Surges Toward Baghdad

“Well-Armed” Taliban Tried To Hijack Airplane Leading To Pakistan Airport Shootout

Gruesome Footage Of ISIS Atrocities Reveals Al Qaeda Jihadists “Will Stop At Nothing”

Ukraine Military Transport Plane Shot Down, 49 Killed

Marc Faber Blasts “American Military Presence In Asia Is Completely Unacceptable”

B-1 Stealth Bomber “Friendly Fire” Strike Kills 5 US Soldiers In Afghanistan

World Needs Record Saudi Oil Supply as OPEC Convenes

Déjà vu: echoes of pre-crisis world mount

Chinese military spending exceeds $145 billion, drones advanced: U.S.

Ukraine Closes 8 Border Crossings On Reports Of Russian Troop Movement

Firefight Underway As Russian “Rebels” Cross Border Into Ukraine

US Begins Delivering F-16s To Iraq This Week, A Decade After It Wiped Out Iraq’s Air Force

Two Ukraine Helicopters Shot Down: Watch As Gunship Engages Eastern Militia In Intense Fighting

Saudi Arabia Reveals Surge In MERS Deaths: One Third Of Infected Patients Die

Japan Base Wages Decline 23 Months In A Row

Obama Calls for $1 Billion Europe Security Fund; Will Increase U.S. Military Presence in Eastern Europe

China Sends 4 More Fighter Jets To Oil Rig Area As Vietnam Threatens Legal Action

“Political Earthquake” – Nigel Farage “Big Winner” In Local Elections

Do these headlines indicate a lessening or deepening of the ongoing Crisis? You won’t see these truthful headlines in the mainstream captured media. You will see feel good headlines touting non-existent economic recoveries, decreasing unemployment rates with record levels of non-working Americans, and storylines of government, corporate and consumer austerity as debt levels reach all-time highs. You will see stories scorning Edward Snowden as a traitor for exposing the highest levels of the United States government as criminals for shredding the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. You will see articles hyping one hundred years of shale oil and gas as energy prices approach record highs and the point of peak cheap oil has been passed. You will see publications owned by billionaires peddling hogwash about fantastic Wall Street profits entirely dependent upon mark to fantasy accounting and accounting journal entries relieving loan loss reserves as loan losses rise. You will see hyperbolic fear mongering dreck about foiled terrorist plots concocted by the FBI and DHS. You will see stories about the evil Russians and evil Chinese as our CIA promotes the overthrow of democratically elected officials in countries around the globe. You will see stories about the dangers of foreign countries conducting cyber-warfare against the U.S. as our government intercepts every electronic communication of our allies and citizens. It’s as if we are lost in a blizzard of lies.

Debt, Civic Decay, Global Disorder

Propaganda and the molding of minds cannot change the course of history. Those in power can ignore the facts, but they can’t change the facts. During the “austere” period from 2009 through until today, total credit market debt in the U.S. has expanded from $53.4 trillion to $59.4 trillion. It now stands at 350% of GDP, even after the government added $500 billion out of thin air to GDP to further their deception of recovery. The U.S. national debt is at a record $17.5 trillion and goes up by $2.0 billion per day. This doesn’t include the $200 trillion of unfunded liabilities politicians have committed taxpayers to pay over the next few decades. Corporate debt is at record highs as CEO’s borrow to buy back their stock at record highs in order to boost EPS and drive their compensation higher.

US total debt 2014

Consumer debt has surged to new highs reaching $3.2 trillion, as government pushed subprime student loan debt and government peddled subprime auto loan lure more math challenged dupes into the banker web of debt. Even credit card debt surged in May as people can no longer make monthly payments for energy, food, rent, and healthcare. Retailers continue to report horrific profits as disposable income has been disposed of by the Federal Reserve’s QE and ZIRP “solutions”. The immense levels of debt plague the entire world as total global debt now surpasses $230 trillion, 313% of world GDP. The 40% surge in global debt since the 2008 debt created collapse is unprecedented in its scope and lunacy. Trying to resolve a debt problem created by criminal Wall Street bankers by allowing Wall Street controlled central bankers, politicians, and government bureaucrats to issue more debt, reduce interest rates to zero, and enrich the oligarchs, will end in catastrophe. The house of cards is teetering as trust dissipates, rehypothecated assets evaporate, the suppression of price discovery fails and the rigged stock market crashes for the third time in fourteen years.

The 2008 global financial crash was the catalyst for this Fourth Turning and the next leg down will unleash the fury of the masses as their remaining wealth, along with their hopes and dreams are obliterated. The civic decay is unmistakably visible, like a fissure in the road after an earthquake, and has left the masses angry, confused, dependent, ignorant, distracted, and suspicious. The extreme and growing wealth inequality driven by Federal Reserve policies, corporate lobbyist written government regulations and tax laws, and bankers controlling the political, economic, financial, and media levers has reached levels previously associated with collapse and revolution. The greed, hubris and arrogance of the .01% will lead to their downfall.

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A country with 102 million of its 247 million working age population not working is a powder-keg and the politicians are acting like slow witted monkeys lighting matches. With 20% of the 145 million jobs part-time, more than half low paying service industry jobs, real wages lower than they were in 1998, and a median salary of $25,000, it’s understandable why 20% of the population relies on food stamps to survive. The discontent is growing. We got a preview of how the establishment will deal with disgruntlement during the 2011 Occupy Wall Street protests. Liberal Democrat mayors aligned with Fox News neo-cons, Wall Street bankers, and police state thugs to eradicate, beat, tear gas, and pepper spray young people exercising their right to free speech protesting the wolves of Wall Street, who had pulled of the largest heist in human history with absolutely no consequences for their criminality. Both OWS and the Tea Party were co-opted by the establishment in short order and have been used by the One Party of oligarchs as a means to divide and conquer, by keeping the masses blaming liberal or conservative phantoms for the state of disunion.

The seemingly never ending revelations from the hero of this Fourth Turning – Edward Snowden – of government surveillance regarding every electronic communication of every American by the NSA is proof of a complete disregard for Constitutionally guaranteed protections by the powers that be. The current administration in conjunction with the hacks from the two headed party ignore, flaunt and show disdain for the Bill of Rights and legal precedent as they run roughshod over the citizens. The transformation of our republic into an authoritarian surveillance police state is almost complete.

The militarization of local police forces by the DHS, military training exercises in major cities, and plans being drawn up by the authorities to confront civil unrest all point towards the coming breakdown of civil society. The complete lockdown of Boston to apprehend two teenage cooking utensil terrorists was a dry run and probably gave the oligarchs confidence in their plan, as Bostonians cowered in their homes as heavily armed police thugs pissed on the Fourth Amendment by conducting door to door searches. If you listen closely, you can hear the fabric of our civilization being torn asunder.

The past few weeks have seen global disorder reach new heights, as Iraq has become Mission Un-Accomplished, the Ukraine explodes into civil war as Russia cuts off their natural gas, violent protests continue to rock Brazil, Egypt, Spain, Greece, France, Turkey and a myriad of other hotspots around the world. The very same forces Obama, McCain and the military industrial complex have been arming in Syria to fight a dictator who was our ally, are now ransacking Iraq, murdering the people we put into power when we deposed another dictator who had been our ally when he was fighting our sworn enemy – Iran. It seems Iran is now helping Iraq fight these jihadists, as they slowly but surely gain control over Iraq. The EU has papered over their national insolvency problems with more debt, while imposing austerity measures on the peasants. See French Revolution for the ultimate resolution of this banker-centric solution. The endemic fraud in China, along with an imploding real estate market, and corruption on an epic scale are creating a perfect storm which will derail the China miracle meme.

Meanwhile, the new dictator in Egypt who overthrew the democratically elected government, after our former dictator ally was deposed when Obama refused to support him, has clamped down on the citizens with his military force. The Ukraine is being torn apart after the CIA and their counterparts in the EU undermined the democratically elected government and started a civil war to undermine Russian influence in that country. To an impartial observer, you might think the American Empire is purposely sowing seeds of discontent, war, and disorder around the globe. Never ending war benefits the military industrial complex, as tremendous profits are generated from the sale of arms to all parties involved. Iraq and Syria are good for the bottom line of the U.S. Defense Industry. War and global disorder also benefit the worldwide banking cabal, as the only way to fund these misadventures is through debt. As we all know, debt is what makes this world go round – until it doesn’t.

There has been a virtual mainstream media blackout regarding the Ukraine as government forces bomb and murder civilians. The billionaires running America need to support the billionaire president of the Ukraine because he is one of them. Truth has no place in modern governmental affairs. The mainstream media ignores the fact the United States has armed Sunni terrorists in Syria who are now on the verge of overrunning Baghdad, as they slaughter Iraqi Shiites by the thousands. They ignore the fact that Iraq was a modern, stable, non-religious, oil producing nation under Hussein, with no Al Qaeda or sectarian violence. The United States invaded a sovereign country under false pretenses, wasted over $1 trillion of precious national wealth, killed over 100,000 Iraqis, sustained over 37,000 physical casualties, untold numbers of mental casualties, and now Iraq is dissolving into a quagmire of religious violence threatening oil supplies and driving prices higher. After 13 years and 21,000 casualties in Afghanistan, the Taliban are stronger than ever as we declare victory and slink away. Libya has been another feather in the cap of American foreign policy as we deposed another former ally dictator and have left the country in disarray and civil war. Just because the American corporate media doesn’t report these facts, doesn’t make them not so.

It should be clear to anyone willing to open their eyes and not be influenced by the establishment propaganda that this Fourth Turning is entering a new ominous phase, as the 2008 Global Financial Crisis catalyst has ignited a volcanic eruption which has put tremendous strain on the areas of extreme vulnerability – debt, civic decay, global disorder. The few aware Americans who frequent truth telling websites are frustrated and impatient, waiting for the tsunami of change to sweep over the world. History operates at its own cyclical pace. An accelerated Fourth Turning would likely not be a positive development. The Civil War Crisis was accelerated, resulting in 700,000 deaths in four years. With the worldwide proliferation of nuclear missiles, this Fourth Turning could be over with the push of a button. I don’t think anyone is rooting for that outcome.

You can easily be distracted by the day to day machinations of evil men, relentless propaganda, meaningless distractions, and various forms of bread and circuses. But history is unforgiving. The details and events will be different, but the path of this Crisis will follow past Crisis periods. The worldwide debt bubble will burst. The resulting loss of wealth, jobs, entitlements and trust will ignite mass civil disorder as years of civic decay lead to a swift societal collapse. With China also entering a Fourth Turning, a global debt implosion, resource wars breaking out, religious extremism, and nationalistic drums beating, the likelihood of global war is high.

For some perspective, six years into the last Fourth Turning in 1935, GDP had risen by 30% from its 1933 low and FDR’s New Deal was supposedly lifting the country from its depths. In reality, the population was experiencing a worsening depression and a few years later a world war killed 65 million people. After six years the Civil War Crisis was resolved with 5% of the nation’s male population killed, a president assassinated, and the South left in ruins. This Fourth Turning will proceed along its destined path at its own pace. The molten ingredients of debt, civic decay and global disorder are conjoining in an explosive concoction leading to a conflagration which will flow across the globe on a scale not seen since the Second World War. There is no escaping the trials and tribulations awaiting us. The outcome is uncertain. It could end in glory or destruction. Individual sacrifice, shared burdens, courageous stands and inspired leadership will be required to survive the perilous trials ahead.

I see the bad moon arising

I see trouble on the way

I see earthquakes and lightnin’

I see bad times today

Creedence Clearwater Revival

“Imagine some national (and probably global) volcanic eruption, initially flowing along channels of distress that were created during the Unraveling era and further widened by the catalyst. Trying to foresee where the eruption will go once it bursts free of the channels is like trying to predict the exact fault line of an earthquake. All you know in advance is something about the molten ingredients of the climax, which could include the following:

  • Economic distress, with public debt in default, entitlement trust funds in bankruptcy, mounting poverty and unemployment, trade wars, collapsing financial markets, and hyperinflation (or deflation)
  • Social distress, with violence fueled by class, race, nativism, or religion and abetted by armed gangs, underground militias, and mercenaries hired by walled communities
  • Political distress, with institutional collapse, open tax revolts, one-party hegemony, major constitutional change, secessionism, authoritarianism, and altered national borders
  • Military distress, with war against terrorists or foreign regimes equipped with weapons of mass destruction” -  The Fourth Turning - Strauss & Howe – 1997

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Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:17 | 4863371 chapaev's ghost
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No way I was going to wade through that. The catalytic event is already in the past. We just haven't recognized it yet for what it was. How many dead Archdukes do we need to push us over the edge?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:21 | 4863379 DavidPierre
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Jesus H. Christ Quinn!, what a bunch of simplistic, wordy, and mindless gibberish. This kind of "Junk History" contributes nothing to the advancement of mankind's journey.

It only serves to feed the simplistic and lazy minds, like you and those who refuse to understand 9/11Truth.

Once again you FAIL miserably The 9/11 Litmus Test

This tome tends hard to the moronic right on the political spectrum. Never have the nation and the world been in such dire need of rational and sound thinking to guide us through this difficult time.
Yet, you are now turning, (pun intended), to this kind of junk thinking, with simplistic answers from religious zealots and useless polemics from mindless politicians.

If our species is to survive and our enlightened culture to progress, we must reject such simplistic models.

The wise minds among us must do the hard work necessary to discover rational solutions to our most perplexing problems. This article does not contribute to this endeavor.

Try  …. Maybe enlighten your feeble mind as your conforming becomes sick, maladaptive and produces poor decisions and insights.

This book is simply another tiresome exercise in Neo-Con, crypto-ideology.
How unfortunate for us all of us that anyone trots out the dusty old "cycles of history" scheme for this generation, because readers should know that, in spite of the clumsy polemic and shoddy prose in this book, (I would insert an example here, but there are just too many to choose from) there really may be something valuable in the "cycles of history" theory.
Unfortunately, you won't find much to value here; for these two authors, the "cycles" theory is simply a vehicle for Neo-Con ideology.

I seriously doubt that I will ever read either Howe or Strauss again; these boys have obviously suckled at the poisoned teats of the world history for far too long to ever again create anything resembling honest scholarship.

ps. What as a matter got your tongue.  Or are you too much of a pussy to comment on ZH anymore.



Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:35 | 4863424 THX 1178
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Yeah, I too believe 9/11 was an inside job, but the book the 4th turing is decent and pretty mindblowing considering that it was written in 1994-5. I mean, we all know the collapse is coming... but when? soon. soon. soon.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4863443 linniepar
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RIP WT7. Never forget, never forgive. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:26 | 4863598 THX 1178
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I think that this article is a sign that the accelleration of the universe from its beginning is now becoming palpable. noticeable. detectable. things haev really picked up in speed over the past few weeks. onward!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4863653 jbvtme
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in a nutshell...i purchased deep out of the money puts on humanity fifty years ago. the question isn't weather the exchange will make good on them when the time comes, but whether the mother ship will accept them as payment for seats in first class.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:22 | 4863772 DoChenRollingBearing
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Gold (and anything else you might want later), fishez!

Lock & load...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:59 | 4865034 TruthHunter
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"but whether the mother ship will accept them as payment for seats in first class."

A first class ticket, according to Jesus, wasn't whether you joined the club, or said the creed, but

how you treated the unfortunate.

Otherwise you get a seat behind the afterburners.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:48 | 4863457 DavidPierre
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It was November 22, 1963 when everything TURNED.

One might think that, being "historians", Strauss & Howe might want to mention it in more than a passing comment or two.

They only had over 30 + years to ponder the question.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:56 | 4863486 Ralph Spoilsport
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I remember that day clearly. We were sent home from school and the air raid sirens were blaring. Childhood's End and the beginning of a life of cynicism and zero tolerance for government.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:57 | 4863701 DaddyO
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Thanks for the reminder Ralph, I too was sent home because my teacher was hysterical. My mother cried for days.

Societal collapse always has markers that aren't visible for decades, 22 Nov 1963 is one of those markers.


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:20 | 4863768 btdt
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i remember too. weepy principal gathered us all in the auditorium. prez got whacked she said. no snow day though.


remember the drills during the curban missile crisis - up against the wall in the skool basement 20 miles from Manhattan. nasty way to go buried under busted steam pipes.


the rest since has been softball seems to me. i mean really, running false flags and wars here and there not much compared to offing a popular prez in front of the world on TV.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:21 | 4863924 samsara
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I remember where I was sitting in 2nd grade.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 20:18 | 4867372 Silva Plata
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"I'll never forget what I was doing when JFK was shot. I was forming eyelids."
-Comedian Jordan Brady (born in 1964)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:51 | 4863686 SilverRhino
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Funny how  so many historians miss that one.


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:50 | 4863832 acetinker
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Yup DP, I've busted your balls before for harping on Quinn re: 9/11, but the world changed on that day for me, and it went further in the same direction on May 4, 1970.

Jim writes as if there is some looming catastrophic thing that is just over the horizon.  I guess that sells books or sumpin'.  I don't know how old you are DP, but it looks to me like we were born into an ongoing catastrophe.

When I was a young ignorant man, I got married and had kids.  I love them all, but I fear for their future.  I wouldn't have done it if I knew then what I know now, and that's so fkn depressing I can't even find words.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 00:00 | 4863980 DavidPierre
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The Kent State University murders ended it for me.

A few weeks later I was out of Michigan and deep in the Canadian Rockies.

It has been a long. and some times, very depressing 44 years watching the Nazis take over.

I tried to corresponded with Quinn years ago after he wrote an article about leaving. 

Told him to get his three boys the fuck out of the United States of Assassination.

Just like most of my high school and university buddies he would not listen to the TRUTH.

Lots of them went to Nam... many came back in zipper bags.

It's alright man ... you're only bleeding.


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:46 | 4863986 Oliver Klozoff
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You're off by almost 10 years.

January 22, 1973 is when America turned.




Wed, 06/18/2014 - 10:57 | 4869220 Robsabi
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No no no. It was March 15, 44 BC when everything TURNED. (if you weren't around back then like I was and don't remember what happened on that date, it was another important political assassination).

Climactic shit is always happening. To cherry pick the events that happened to happen when you were forming your personal world view, and assume that somehow those events are far more significant than the ones that came before or after, is an example of a huge, self-centrered bias at work.



Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4863481 TahoeBilly2012
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The isn't the FOURTH turning it's the LAST fucking turning. Read the Bible, read the Protocols, this is the BIG Fred Sanford used to say. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:22 | 4863584 BringOnTheAsteroid
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What's reading the bible supposed to do?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:29 | 4863950 Kprime
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distract you

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:25 | 4863596 juangrande
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But nothing ever happened to Fred!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:05 | 4863736 TahoeBilly2012
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Look, what was shit like Iraq based on, what "myth" was Iraq, Afghan, etc. based on? 10 seconds up ding ding ding, the myth of the MARSHAL PLAN! Yea, that's right they never quite get around to actually spewing that out, but that's the "wink, wink" mythology you were raised all your life to beleive, that being the EXCEPTIONAL US of A could rebuild any Country, anywhere at any time....if it just WANTED to. How many of you brainiacs even made the connection that the entire scam of NEOCON NIRVANA is completely based on the Marshal Plan??? Total bullshit since NOTHING was ever going to be rebuilt. Welcome to the future. They are succeeding, you just don't know the next plan. 

But here is who runs the plan!



9. Only the king and the three who stood sponsor for him will know what is coming.

10. In the person of the king who with unbending will is master of himself and of humanity all will discern as it were fate with its mysterious ways. None will know what the king wishes to attain by his dispositions, and therefore none will dare to stand across an unknown path.

(so what is this statement saying? Pretty simple, the pyramid is in full effect. The Jewish "government" as it calles itself, has many working at various levels of the pyramid, but only 4 GET IT 4, that being the Jew King and his 3 sponsors know what the fucking plan is. These people are operating under divine guidance through their King. What happens is what he plans and his underlings, Victoria Nudlecunt...somewhere down the pyramid carry out marching orders.)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:22 | 4863928 acetinker
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Oh Billy! You dove off into the deep end!  Yeah, Nuland is a statist whore, but unless you equate the state with satan, she is still just a statist whore.  You may well be correct to associate the state with satan, but no self-respecting demon would claim Nuland.  She just thinks she's in the club.

Carry on, Billy!  Can't wait to see what you come up with next.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:42 | 4863961 TahoeBilly2012
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Oh Ace have you read the Protocols or not? Read them and ask yourself is that shit can be "made up"...ya know, since everything in it is happening in real time. No it's not a "accident" that there happen to be a bunch of Jews at the top of; a)wall st b) entertainment c) Goober mint d) news info, it is NOT an accident unless you are just dumb or a pussy, most people are pussies...plenty are dumb.

Nudelman is IN the club my dear friend! She is in the pyramid below the Jew King, so while devote, she herself does not know "the plan". She just follows orders. Okay back to Zerohedge "splainin" what all the problems whith zero suggestions how to fix them.

Ace, I equate that State with Satan. That and the New York Yankees!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 06:26 | 4864255 acetinker
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The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is chilling, but to me, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars even more so.  As I understand things, Satan will eventually betray all who follow, as he(?) is merely a construct of the human mind.  Can't comment on the Yankees.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:32 | 4872133 acetinker
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So, you equate Satan with the Yankees?  Must be a Boston fan.  I get it, and makes me more than sad that you are so stupid that you think God plays what we call sport.  Fuck Boston and New York, per God- you heard it here first.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:23 | 4864096 MeMongo
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Cantor's departure/loss seems a good start to Mongo:-) Brother Nathaniel's new vid sums it up pretty well!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 11:12 | 4865095 walküre
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oh brother, are you ever confused

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:05 | 4872238 acetinker
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Oh George! Not the Livestock!

You sold your everlasting soul?

Well, I guess I'm the only one who's unaffiliated. Tommy here, sold his soul to the devil, and Pete and Delmar just got saved...

The preacher man said I was absolved of all my sins.

You may be square with the Lord, but I'm afraid the State of Mississippi's a bit more hardnosed.

Damn those Coen Brothers!  They make me think.  Ya' reckon they might have Jewish heritage?  Hunh.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:19 | 4864836 Wild tree
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"But nothing ever happened to Fred!"



Except now he's dead.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:28 | 4863602 Omegaman2211
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The bible is a bunch of fictional bullshit. Why did you reference it?!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:11 | 4863744 TahoeBilly2012
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Yea, sure yea you progressive nitwit. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:23 | 4863774 NemoDeNovo
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Nice deflection there.  I was born and raised Catholic and I totally agree that the bible is a bunch of bs, nice stoires and allegories, but the unbridled truth -- Hardly, but hey enjoy your delusion.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:29 | 4863791 TahoeBilly2012
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I was raised atheist, thank you, never got my head dunked, never sat in a Church as of late and guess fucking what you "receovering candle lighter" your mind! Why is the world a sea of lies so big you push the whole planet through it? A few Oligarchs out having fun on Sunday?? Get a grip people, this isn't about Oligarchs...or shitiest Presidents ever....this is as big as good and evil itself, because it IS THAT BIG. Your small mind should reconsider.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:11 | 4863887 NemoDeNovo
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Wow, I am so sorry your all-knowingness, now that you have shamed me and attacked me I guess I will just go sit in the corner in pout in the glow of your mighty intellegence </sarc>.  You speak as though you know me, which you don't and as though you are aware of the knowledge I have as to the true nature of our manufactured reality here on this rock, of which you know nothing............


So have a nice day, and enjoy your anger hate and vitriol!!!! 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:50 | 4863991 TahoeBilly2012
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Here is some Christ for you, real or invented. Steve Wickham on fiddle, from the West of Ireland.

Peace brothers.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:04 | 4864072 Seer
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Nothing tricky, complicated or mystic at all.  It's called OVERSHOOT.  Has ALWAYS happened and will continue to, as long as the planet provides us with a viable environment (up until the sun burns out, but that's another day).

Most people cannot/will not accept this because they're programmed NOT to accept this thinking (TPTB/rulers wouldn't last very long if the majority of folks understood this): very rare is it that you'll find anyone who can identiry "growth" as THE problem (TPTB promote growth because they life off it).

Apocolypse is what we're facing, but the word's base meaning is what it'll be: a great unveiling of the truth- we pretty much know that it's all BS/lies (perpetual growth on a finite planet is IMPOSSIBLE), so all that's been assembled through a good couple of thousands of years goes POOF because people see that it's not going to get people "there" (dead-end future).

And out of the "ashes" will be people who eventually cannot tell the stories of TPTB (they die out).  They will begin to make their own "sense" of things, always, because we're human, necessitating the annointment of "special people," who, over time, establish the new ruling hierarchy.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 11:50 | 4865291 JoBob
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Billy, there is a difference in "yea" and "yeah".

Yea, I say unto you, there is a difference, Billy.

Yeah, you got that right, JoBob.

And while you're at it, "alot" is not a word, and.... If you can't state your argument coherently without long biblical quotations, you really don't have anything worthwhile to contribute.

Yeah, this will be included on the test.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:34 | 4863798 quasimodo
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Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:26 | 4863943 BlackChicken
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What parts are fictional?

Could you reference any chapters and verses?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 07:31 | 4864299 RafterManFMJ
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JQ reports: (paraphrasing)

"I believe an invisible shadow government runs, and has ran the world for 70 years and they will stop at nothing, not war, not rendering 99% of Amurika destitute, nor suspending the constitution, to perpetuate their unholy power.

I believe 911 happened just the way the same government and corporate media reported it."

Talk about cognitive dissonance LOL! Ol' Jim is afraid of being labeled a conspiracy nut; hie thee off to WalMart Jim and pick up some Reynolds Wrap and come on in, the water's fine.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4863439 Bay of Pigs
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Agreed. Anyone not tying 9/11 in on all of this is deeply asleep. Especially for an American like Quinn, Mish and Denninger. Anyone failing to see this pile of propaganda and BS like the Sandy Hook, and Boston Bombings should also be dismissed as simpletons and idiots.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:54 | 4863476 Ralph Spoilsport
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Denninger will ban you in a nanosecond if you post anything that disagrees with the 9/11 Commision Report. It's a clean, well-lit place for sycophants and KD ass kissers.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4863662 gruntled
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Haha! I used to be a regular - haven't been there for >2 years. Thanks for the blast from the past.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4863704 Berspankme
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I love the way the ass kissers on that site suck on karl everytime he writes a captain obvious "ticker".like robots

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:37 | 4863964 Dolus
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Too funny, I was a member there for 6 years until I once disagreed with KD and was promptly banned. Not only that I donated to his sight several times for a gold membership. If you are not kissing his ass you're gone! 


It's kind of sad because you could see the sight slowly dissolving from the great sight and with great outspoken contributors to a complete dictatorship and sounding chamber it is now.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:07 | 4864074 Seer
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FYI - It's "site," not "sight." (though Denniger's site could be seen as lacking sight)

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 11:21 | 4865144 TruthHunter
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"Denniger's site could be seen as lacking sight"

Succinctly put.  I lost interest when he apparently got burned 

shorting the market back in 09' 10'  

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 07:49 | 4864318 RafterManFMJ
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Karl's rules are pretty clear. Don't know if he ever held forth on 911 or not but I do know he's not an idiot; therefore I believe his reticence on the subject is a simple case of keeping his site unbismirched.

Although come to think of it, I seem to recall the descriptor "Moonbat" used on 911 Truthers...

As he notes there are many places to discuss 911 and TMT is not one of them.

If you could cobble together a post including 911 Truthers, Low Fat Diets as the way to lose weight, Gun Control equals crime control, Thorium Power is a pipe dream, SCUBA diving is stupid and pretentious, the only proper investments are gold and silver, and Blackberry Sucks you could achieve the rare level of Epic Ban on TMT.

I've always liked the site and frankly was surprised I never got banned despite some clear violations of site policy. TOS and forum rules are not something I spend time reading on forums.

But, as he says, he is "winding it down" and I look someday for it to go dark.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:04 | 4863505 TahoeBilly2012
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I don't know much about Boston or Sandy Hook. 9-11 official story is a stretch at best. Fact is, as one Hunter S Thompson said before he offed himself, "who had the means to pull this off?". Like I said, Thompson must have known his Libtard buddies were about to go full fascist and full retard on the Obama scam...and he couldn't handle it, so he swallowed some lead. That and the coke was getting weaker and weaker. Miss that dude.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:11 | 4863544 Bay of Pigs
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Fetzer, Smallstrom, Preston and others have demolished the Sandy Hook hoax. Absolutely a false flag.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:25 | 4863595 Ralph Spoilsport
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Bay, have you read the latest from Duff and Preston about the nukes at the WTC? They claim the info was leaked by Russian Intelligence. Not sure I'm ready for that one.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 05:48 | 4864235 what's that smell
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poisoning the well.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:19 | 4863616 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Problem is, where does this conspiracy stuff stop. It's got to the point that every single occurence of terrorism or mass shootings is orchestrated by some higher power. Another way to look at this. Let's say someone sets off a dirty bomb in the NY subway and they were really and truly, pinky promise, were acting absolutely alone. Say they are are a right or left wing nutter, highly educated who has the ability to construct such a bomb. If such a scenario was to occur do you think it would be possible to construct a case that it was an inside job or false flag?

My suspicion is that with all this NSA spying and surveillance something far more subtle and dangerous has emerged that pure false flags and inside jobs. It's possible these agencies do uncover independent plots to set off bombs, hijack planes, conduct mass shootings but now are in the unique position to benefit from the aftermath of allowing these events to unfold. This is exactly a co-ordinated inside job or false flag in the sense there is a some dark room full of crazy oligarchs plotting bad shit. This shit just happens in the normal course of life but now the outcomes can be leveraged.  

9/11 is a good example. US intelligence probably knew about this months before it happenend but could see they could benefit hugely from the outcome like decimating rights, pushing executive orders through congress etc etc.. Also turned out to be a great opportunity to destroy some evidence in WTC7 (which there cannot be any doubt was deliberately brought down). Do I think the twin towers were wired for implosion, no. I think two great big fucking airliners full of fuel brought them down. 

Bottom line is this. Why couldn't Bill Clinton keep his blowy from Monica Lewinski a secret? WHY ???????? It only innvolved two people ! ! ! ! Humans are hopeless at keeping secrets. Maybe it has something to do with the bigger the lie, the easier it is to conceal.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:52 | 4863835 SofaPapa
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"9/11 is a good example. US intelligence probably knew about this months before it happenend but could see they could benefit hugely from the outcome like decimating rights, pushing executive orders through congress etc etc.. Also turned out to be a great opportunity to destroy some evidence in WTC7 (which there cannot be any doubt was deliberately brought down). Do I think the twin towers were wired for implosion, no. I think two great big fucking airliners full of fuel brought them down. "

If what you say here is not said with sarcasm, you are violating Occam's Razor.  You acknowledge that building 7 was intentional demolition, yet claim that the towers were brought down by the airplanes?  That adds unnecessary complexity.  If one building was imploded, why not three?  Especially when anyone who has watched video of intentionally demolished buildings can certainly recognize the same signature in the collapse of the towers.  And no matter what, if you acknowledge that building 7 was intentional, then you are confirming that the official story of that day has fundamental structural lies embedded in it.  Why pick and choose which are lies and which are truth?  I find it far more consistent to face the fact that the whole day was manufactured, at a sickening cost of life, solely for the purpose of the taking of freedom we have witnessed since by the deep state.

As such, I would argue that following the fourth turning rubric, 9/11 represents the beginning of the turn.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:15 | 4863896 samsara
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"Problem is, where does this conspiracy stuff stop...."

What a stupid premise to start with. A "Conspiracy Theory" Ends when it is proven True or False. Nothing magical there.

ZH itself must have had at least 15 articles in the last year starting with "Conspiracy Theory is Now Conspiracy Fact"

See what I mean. Nothing hard here.

From that one false premise, you went on to build a tower of BS

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:26 | 4864091 BringOnTheAsteroid
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No really, what did you think about my opinion?

OK, ZeroHedge is a front for the CIA to collect the IP's of all the potential future dissidents. That's what I meant fuck head when I said where does it stop. Is everything a fucking conspiracy theory, it sure seems as though it's turning out to be. 

Humans are obsessed with the need for an overarching controlling power whether it be a god or some dark foreboding financial overlords working in a secret society. sure, there are probably cabals of these financial elite trying to may hay while the sun shines but jesus h christ, the US is not harboring a race of shape shifting reptilians who are hiding in the hollow earth trying to take over the human race.

I was being somewhat sarcastic about WTC7 - on that front I simply do not know. I suppose we'll find out eventually because a scheme on that grand of a scale could never be kept secret indefinitely if it was all pre-planned. When yanks are being rounded up and herded into FEMA camps I suppose that'll put a bit of a dent in our rosy view of the world and confirm there is indeed a dark foreboding cabal intent on destroying life as we know it as opposed to a bunch of greedy fucks who want to maintain their little lot in life.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:34 | 4863959 Kprime
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billy wanted to make sure we all knew he was getting some. after all lookin at the white wookie we all doubted it.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:10 | 4864077 Seer
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"Do I think the twin towers were wired for implosion, no. I think two great big fucking airliners full of fuel brought them down."

You're going to have to figure out the HUGE gap of physics in all of this, with the free-fall speed (at times) of the twin towers, not to mention WTC7.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:41 | 4864112 BringOnTheAsteroid
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I am no engineer so I have zero authority to say one way or another. If I had to guess I would say that the 20 or 30 floors above the impact level would have enough weight behind them that once it started moving downwards the remaining floors may as well not even been there. As for WTC7 that is well and truly open to speculation. If the US authorities knew of a terrorist attack and actually greased the wheels to ensure it happened then it is possible that WTC7 could have been deliberately brought down - who knows - especially if the building housed the servers and files and other evidence of the missing billions sent to Iraq.

If this was indeed planned and executed by Mossad and the CIA or whoever the hell had the ability, the truth will get out eventually. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 02:51 | 4864159 DavidPierre
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The TRUTH is already out!

Do some D.D. on your own!

You don't have to be a  engineer to understand simple, basic science and physics.

You have all of it laid out ... easy to understand... all the names and motives.

9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:31 | 4863412 tempo
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This crap is the same as when Christians tell us the end is near. They have been saying that for over 2000 years.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:08 | 4863529 yrbmegr
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There appears to be something about 80 years, though.  2020-2030 might be a perilous decade.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:08 | 4863532 greatbeard
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>> They have been saying that for over 2000 years.

Near is a relative thing.  I can say for sure the end is near for me, 30 years max.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:28 | 4863945 BringOnTheAsteroid
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It's a deeply curious thing, this obsession christians have with the end of the world. You'd sort of think that the goodness of the christian would promote the survival of the human race and spreading the word to the far corners of the universe.

If humans do survive any appreciable length of time we're bound to look back on this era with great interest but then again that is the chauvinism of the current generation. Humans in the year 3000 will no longer care about our cultures belief in god than we give a shit about the Greeks belief in Thor or the Aborigines belief in the Serpeant.


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:34 | 4863374 DavidPierre
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Hollywood and Pop Culture Bull Shit… and you buy into to it hook line and sinker.

The 4th Turding  … is a scattershot hodgepodge of mindless sweeping generalizations. No one really knows what the future is.  

Maybe you should embrace reality; analyze the past starting with September 11, 2001 and how it relates to November 22, 1963.

Strauss and Howe are not making a very compelling argument for why anyone should believe anything they say.  Don't be fooled by the bullet lists, tables, and apparent organization of the chapters - there is not any sort of cohesive argument.  Instead, they meander about, trying to convince with terrible analogies and by randomly grouping historical events together that conveniently fit into their ideas.   There is no forward progression in the evidence the authors try to present.

This book is very bad science.  

The authors try to make the flimsy, narrow, Euro-centric data fit their wobbling hypothesis.

 The United States of Assassinations has been at war with citizens for over 50 years. 

You are not even aware of it.

Your beloved government puppets and their Wall Street puppeteers have used their control of the mainstream and Hollywood media to fully utilize Edward Bernays’ propaganda techniques to convince you of the OffaliCIAl 9/11 story line.

For anyone willing to uncover the facts and think critically about the storyline being presented, an entirely different reality is revealed.

There can be no change unless you have the courage to make a stand.

What Really Happened on 9-11?

The New Pearl Harbor 

Next time at least address real events, (JFK and 9/11), that actually TURNED the world.

PS. I am eagerly awaiting your pithy reply in the comments here on ZH where you have no delete button like on your pathetic sycophantic excuse of a blog.

PPS.  Sycophancy is flattery that is very obedient, or an indication of deference to another, to an excessive or servile degree. A user of sycophancy, is referred to as a sycophant.





Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:42 | 4863437 Chupacabra-322
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9/11 Conspiracy Solved: Names, Connections, & Details Exposed!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:24 | 4863392 telefunken
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If I see anything about "peak oil" into the trash it goes-we have enough oil for 500 years with every human driving an Escalade.

You might as well talk about "peak blood" in a healthy human....

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:09 | 4863536 greatbeard
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>> -we have enough oil for 500 years

In the trash you go.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:28 | 4863789 NemoDeNovo
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Well 'peak oil' is Bullshit, I mean 'if' the myth of how oil was formed [you know from dead dinosaurs and plant], then explain this one.  How did the Russians hit oil at like 5 miles down???  Really doubt that was some big ass Dinosaur Orgy that deep, but hey don't let the facts stand in the way right.............

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:41 | 4863971 Kprime
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damn ur dumb.  I suppose you think the ogallala aquifer is a lie, cuz hell how can it rain underground?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 07:54 | 4864327 RafterManFMJ
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I personally believe in the abiotic origin of water.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:37 | 4863968 Kprime
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I know right, and when it gets to be a billion dollars a barrel we can use our ebt cards.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:25 | 4863394 WillyGroper
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Well stated.

Pun intended.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:28 | 4863403 29.5 hours
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We need proper boots to wade thru this crap. "Fourth Turning" sounds so spooky, it must be true.  [hold flashlight to face]



Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:02 | 4863870 samsara
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Well read on the subject are we? Read the book did ya?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:34 | 4863420 Ralph Spoilsport
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This article connects the dots to all the other dots.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:36 | 4863423 disabledvet
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"He internet of things" remains the moving target still.

That's why screeds don't sell either. People have access to the data now, it is possible through your "I-phone" to become informed. Might not seem like much...but once the seeds of knowing are planted they can grow into a might tree.

So "before we get big we have to get small." Rather than reacting emotionally to the screen before us ("the wizard" in the wizard of oz) we have to learn to reach beyond our most powerful sense (seeing) and start to perceive "the mind's eye" and how that is tricked and manipulated. (Feeeeelings. Emooooooootions. Why do we have them? "They make no biological sense.")

"Thinking" is where the true intervention is occurring...not what you see or "where you see it." Once you can conquer the metaphysical Battlespace then you can start to see the physical or "actual" one on your "television" or "I-device."

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:41 | 4863435 Ralph Spoilsport
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"before we get big we have to get small."

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:12 | 4863897 Idaho potato head
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Heh, I was just thinking of that and voila, thx

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:45 | 4863446 Reaper
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Ideas which affect positive change are imitated. Ulcers were cured by anti-biotics, not behavioral change. The wheel was an idea. Freedom was an idea. Saying no, was an idea. No king, nor emperor, is an idea. Taking money out of banks not paying interest is an idea. Intrenched politicians being defeated is an idea. Ending the Fed is an idea.

Stop trusting government,its fiat currency, or its media is an idea. A stampede begins, after the first few buffalo turn and run.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:57 | 4863490 Beard of Zeus
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The end of Kali Yuga?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:03 | 4863510 Ralph Spoilsport
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It's Cali Yugo, the world ends when the last Yugo in LA is sent to the car crusher.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:08 | 4863534 NewAmericaNow
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Iraq - The Real Story About The “Too Extreme for Al Qaeda” I.S.I.S.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:17 | 4863571 stant
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Fuck this I've gone southern . Not coming back

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4863579 zstard
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What does this say about fears of voting fraud? Just a question? Makes me think I should be voting in Congressional elections. What about presidential election? /no sarc

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:49 | 4863665 oddjob
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Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:57 | 4863854 TheEndIsNear
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Don't bother voting if you live in the USA because our election votes are collected by Venezuelans and counted by computers that are preprogrammed for the desired outcome.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:47 | 4863670 Stanley Lord
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here's one for ya, what if there is a lot more gold out there than we think there is, what if there is 10X as much gold out there as they tell us-and why would the USA want to go on a gold standard if the price was set at say $50K an ounce, you would make China and Russia and the Arabs just as rich as us overnight? what if gold is like diamonds and there are tons more in storage we have no idea about?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:53 | 4863809 honestann
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Right, because most gold mining operations throughout history have been total secrets!

Either that, or someone asked Santa Claus for 20 billion tons of gold, and Santa Claus delivered!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:14 | 4864082 Seer
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That's why the Chinese guy's delivery turned out to not exist, because it's so plentiful?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 07:45 | 4864314 meterman
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You - Stanley - Are one of the very few who "get it". There is no shortage of Gold. Every time there is a flurry of opinions written that the Gold supply is about to dry up - all written by those who SELL GOLD - some country buys and imports a million TONS of Gold that appears out of nowhere. There is plenty of Gold - We are all being played by the Gold hucksters.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:49 | 4863675 monad
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4rth turning is bullshit. Cycles are real, but this "pattern map" is pure speculation, connecting some dots and ignoring others. Krugmanomic. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:17 | 4863763 HowardBeale
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Is it just me, or are we there yet.


Long-winded exhortations by authors such as this one, prove just how delusional most EVERYBODY is: We are there; injustice is obvious; the guilty and the innocent will die; this is going to be a fucking mess--all due to the inherent insanity of Man. We are fucked--unless a few sane Men decide to do something that is not in their nature...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:55 | 4863845 kchrisc
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While thankful for the post, I always find it enjoyable when posters and the authors they quote point to some outside force or the nature of chance as to the cause of the predicament we find ourselves in at current. The reason that it make me chuckle, is that the answer is to how we got into our current situation is clear and evident, and has even been written about many times.

The source of our detriment is nothing more than a cabal of thieves and their cadre of apologists and protectors, the Federal Reserve Rothschild bank and their DC US government monkeys.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:00 | 4863862 samsara
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His point is, that's just happens to be the cause this time. Next time it will be some other reason.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:16 | 4864084 Seer
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Um, it's resource exhaustion.  There's insufficient resources to continue to push up our levels of living: we've gon hockey-stick and gravity will yank our asses back down to zero.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:58 | 4863856 samsara
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It takes a lot to laugh now a days.

Now the wintertime is coming
The windows are filled with frost
I went to tell everybody
But I could not get across....

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:21 | 4863927 Idaho potato head
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And it takes a train to cry.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:04 | 4863874 butchtrucks
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I'm clearly not taking the right drugs these days.  I tried to follow this - I honestly did - but ended up down a rabbit hole.  Gotta go ask Alice.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:47 | 4863987 Kprime
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you will have to read the book

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 00:45 | 4864053 telefunken
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Wow,I guess everyone who believes in peak oil,walks,does not eat food or wear clothes.

Abiotic oil is the reality-dead dry wells going back online-there are 100's of examples.

I guess zh has more libfag status quo types then I believe existed.

“The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself.“
- Club of Rome,
premier environmental think-tank,
consultants to the United Nations

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the
industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”
- Maurice Strong,
founder of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)

Pay your carbon taxes slaves,leo and algore need more trips on some of the worlds largest yachts.

"While it cannot come as a surprise after so many liberal hoaxes, it’s still shocking to find we’ve been duped again—this time by the “Peak Oil” myth. Peak Oil is the theory the world is on the verge of a catastrophic decline in global petroleum reserves that will result in major energy crises causing chaos across the world. This notion has now been proved demonstrably false—yet, how was it accepted in the first place?

It was the result of the hypothesizing of noted geologist Marion King Hubbert who claimed as a simple fact that oil production would reach a peak and then decline by 1970. But instead of being based upon provable data, this idea was the result of Hubbert’s extreme leftist beliefs called “Technocracy,” which for short a time swept the world, capturing millions of cult-like followers. This is similar to the millions who pathetically cling to the Global Warming myth despite repeated examples of falsified proofs surfacing weekly.

Peak Oil theory has radically affected generations of leaders, public policy makers and the general populace. In doing so it has robbed countless persons of cheaper energy and their countries of smarter energy policies. Further, Peak Oil has been taken by the environmental cabal as another proof that mankind is badly out of touch with the earth. But all recent data shows the globe is not running out of oil, but to the contrary we now have more discovered oil than ever before."

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:18 | 4864087 Seer
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Who pays you to write this shit?

It's a finite planet, get the fuck over it!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 14:54 | 4866219 fallout11
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I see that neither geology or chemistry are your strong suit. Have any experience in the petrochemical industry?  Then shut your ignorant piehole.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:35 | 4864108 russwinter
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The spark will be deliberate and administered by the psychopathic cabal.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 03:34 | 4864185 kurt
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Koch Brothers

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 08:06 | 4864343 nickt1y
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Tue, 06/17/2014 - 05:45 | 4864231 MickV
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Quinn is blind to the real political turmoil being created by the installation of the Usurper domestic enemy foreigner Obama, whose existence is solely for the purpose of overseeing the destruction of the United States. He thinks that it is a "conspiracy theory" that an ineligible non natural born Citizen has been muscelled in to effectuate the demise of US Citizen sovereignty, and the US itself, so much so that he won't let any discussion of that line of thought on his blog. Like all of the "doom blogs" and their "conspiracy deniers", all thoughts of the  political takeover of the US by foreign powers is greeted by ad hominem, and banning.

Like Kuntsler, Quinn denies reality, as he sends his kids to the state sponsored schools he pillories (they go to that pedophile protecting sewer called Penn State).

The reality is that there is NO UNITED STATES. it was Usurped by the installation of Obama, British subject of a British subject father, and ineligible non natural born Citizen, who is now overseeing the  employment of Cloward Piven strategy to attack the very fabric of American life. Look at our southern border as the perfect example.

Only knowledge of the Usurpation can stop it, but Quinn and others (GW, ZH, Kuntsler, Denninger, st al) are just steam valve chicken littles who refuse to write about the real issue, and do any real good. The only way back is the exposition of the Usurper in office and of his demise. Anything else is New World Order. The fact of Obama's ineligibility is the crack in the dam for the NWO oligarchs, and Quinn helps them by denying the "conspiracy theory".

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:13 | 4864805 samsara
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Obama? You think it started and ends with Obama?

You have some reading to do.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:27 | 4864879 MickV
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Get a clue moron. Expose Obama for the Ineligible nation destroyer that he is, and the curtain will be pulled back on the NWO cabal behind him.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 08:45 | 4864427 Seize Mars
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This "fourth turning" isn't any mysterious thing. It's just the cycle of debt saturation. Why not just call it that?

The scumbags have always burned the place to the slab every time the place is saturated, then they get to start over with a new currency. Whee!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:04 | 4864471 robobbob
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"refuses to accept the inevitability of their existing paradigm collapsing in a chaotic whirlwind of violence, death on a grand scale and decisive war"

au contraire my friend. I would say the establishment stock piling billions of rounds, hundreds of shiny new MRAPs, rushing thousands of drones into service, the surveillance state, and laying the legal groundwork for throwing out the last pretenses of the constitution says they have a good inkling what to expect and how far they're willing to go to hang on.

the propaganda war is already in full swing. anyone mouthing the slightest whisper against official government decrees is automatically labeled domestic extremist. an extremely important step in keeping the rabbel rousers seperated from the great info dazed masses and preventing critical mass from being reached or at least marginalized. it may be failing, but it is being tried.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 14:18 | 4866019 gdpetti
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Or as the Chinese call it, 'The Mandate of Heaven'... a cyclical event sequence as civilizations rise and fall... as Spengler and so many others have referred to over the years. The lessons of history are wakeup calls for those paying attention, listening and learning and wondering WTF is going on. The answers await the questions as always. Try this one on for size: 'Earth Changes and the Human-Cosmic Connection'.

There is a real basis for all this stuff and a reason for all that happens. The 4th turning, end-times, graduation cycles etc. All various names to represent the nature of our reality. A classroom in self-conscious awareness. Seek and ye shall find. How many answer the 'call'? Not many, not very many at all. Same for every cycle. If it was easy, any idiot could do it, and the 'game' isn't designed for beginners. There is a method to the madness.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 19:50 | 4875898 BlackBart41
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Please understand that this article WAS NOT written by Strauss (who passed away several years ago) or Howe. Nor in their book did they express their political opinions as to whether the past or current political actions were correct or not.

Read the book. It is not a critique of the actions of anyone.

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