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Obama Urges Bailed-Out Students Recant Their "Climate-Change Skepticism"

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While handing out tax-paying citizens' cash to less tax-paying (but still voting) citizens in his latest bailout (of the student loan bubble) may seem to some just big-hearted, the quid pro quo appears to have just been unleashed. In a commencement address yesterday to graduates of UC Irvine, Bloomberg reports that Obama delivered one of his feistiest critiques of lawmakers; calling on Americans coming of age to demand that politicians respond more aggressively to climate change, comparing those skeptical about man-caused alterations to the environment to a belief that the moon is “made of cheese.”

 

As Bloomberg reports,

In a commencement address yesterday to graduates of the University of California at Irvine, Obama delivered one of his feistiest critiques of lawmakers who, in objecting to environmental regulations he’s pushing to reduce carbon emissions, question the need for such action.

 

Obama said rising temperatures and sea levels and intensifying storm patterns define “one of the most significant long-term challenges that our country and our planet face.”

 

...

 

“The question is not whether we need to act” on climate change, Obama said. “The overwhelming judgment of science, accumulated and measured and reviewed over decades, has put that question to rest. The question is whether we have the will to act before it’s too late.”

 

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“When President Kennedy set us on a course for the moon, there were a number of people who made a serious case that it wouldn’t be worth it,” Obama said. “But nobody ignored the science. I don’t remember anyone saying the moon wasn’t there, or that it was made of cheese.”

 

Today’s Congress, “is full of folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence,” he said. “They will tell you it is a hoax, or a fad.”

Obama also had harsh words for those who “duck the question” of climate change.

He said they say, “Hey, look, I’m not a scientist.”

 

Said Obama: “I’ll translate that for you. What that really means is, ‘I know that man-made climate change really is happening, but if I admit it, I’ll be run out of town by a radical fringe that thinks climate science is a liberal plot.”

 

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While Obama didn’t provide any names, he added: “One member of Congress actually says the world is cooling. There was one member of Congress who mentioned a theory involving ’dinosaur flatulence’ -- which I won’t get into.”

In conclusion: I'll bail you out... if you spread my good word.

Perhaps President Obama should listen to the real questions that graduating students are asking... as summed up by John Boehner:

“Americans are still asking, ‘Where are the jobs?,’"

 

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Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:21 | 4863187 atomp
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Global cooling!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:35 | 4863234 gh0atrider
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Climate change is a load of shit.  Even a stupid gh0at can see that!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:45 | 4863269 Boris Alatovkrap
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New USSA presidential scandal - "Cheesegate".

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:50 | 4863290 Skid Marks
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All Things Obama = Nausea

AIDS is a virus, Obama is a curse from God

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:52 | 4863296 kaiserhoff
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It takes a lot of planning to create a major clusterfuck disaster every week.

Forward Soviet!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:00 | 4863324 Anusocracy
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Obongoloid is an example of Global Moroning.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:04 | 4863722 aVileRat
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You mean to tell me not a single handler or speech writer in the last 3 years has googled this:

http://chemistry.about.com/od/medicalhealth/f/What-Is-The-Chemical-Compo...

And bothered to clue in on the metajoke of that phrase....

Fuck, this begs to question: Maybe the staff have so little respect for him, maybe they just let him fall flat on his face for the lulz.

Now I'm starting to feel bad for Barry, thats unpossible (sic).

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:57 | 4863699 MrSteve
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I was told the moon was made of green cheese and you can even see the holes in it from the earth!

the reason we did the Apollo Project was to verify that the gorgonzola came from the earth during fly-by meteor strike.

this is real earth science!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:31 | 4863952 logicalman
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If you think the moon's made of cheese, you are crackers :-)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:42 | 4870150 MeelionDollerBogus
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caaAAAwwww! Polly says...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:47 | 4863279 kaiserhoff
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Sometimes, I think Barry can't possibly be that stupid,

but yeah, he is, and getting stupider.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:56 | 4864739 XitSam
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He's not stupid. This is according to plan.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:26 | 4870071 MeelionDollerBogus
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We can measure it so it can't be bullshit.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:36 | 4863243 RevRex
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Climate (THE WEATHER) (Google it) has always changed, and now dumbfuck Demotrash want to raise your taxes because of it.

 

 

Yep, Republicans did the same thing, so "both parties are the same"..... right LiberTARDian voters?

 

yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrghhhhhhhh

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:55 | 4863261 Deathrips
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Do you have a learning problem?... you seem disabled. If you dont like the people here..why the fuck are you here?

 

Let me try again.

 

This isnt Fight Club to show up and throw random punches at everyone here. Thats a mosh pit.

This is a place to figure out facts and debate about whats occuring.....

 

Why the fuck are you here again?

 

RIPS

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:08 | 4863346 Anusocracy
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Of course the Repugnantcunts want to raise taxes for a never-ending number of other reasons.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:36 | 4863962 logicalman
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Just because something is used as an excuse for a new tax, doesn't mean it ain't happening.

The earth's climate changes. Not to prepare for it in some way would be stupid, whatever causes it.

Humans must, now, be having some effect. They've fucked up the land and the sea, why should the air be exempt?

The belief that humans know enough to even contemplate controlling it is hubris beyond belief.

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 18:15 | 4867002 vie
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Problem with humans is our egos cause us to consistently assume that the world/universe revolves around us.  They're using our ego-centric thinking and collective guilt against us to consolidate power under the UN, simple as that.

Yes, we're all collectively f'ing the environment for future generations.  But that's a non-sequitor with global warming and CO2.  If they really want to make policy changes that will solve the problem they will end the Fed and debt based fiat monetary systems that are the primary drivers of over-consumption and unsustainably wasteful use of the world's resources.

“I had the privilege of being fired by Al Gore, since I refused to go along with his alarmism....I have spent a long research career studying physics that is closely related to the greenhouse effect....Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science. The earth's climate is changing now, as it always has. There is no evidence that the changes differ in any qualitative way from those of the past.”

-- Will Harper, Princeton University physicist, former Director of Energy Research at the Department of Energy

 

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 19:11 | 4867187 Flakmeister
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I don't strongly disagree with you, clearly a new paradigm is required...

BTW, it is Happer...

Happer is more than welcome to perform research that demonstates an alternative explanation of climate. And given his dearth of publications in this regard, we may safely accuse you of the fallacy of "appeal to authority"...

He is a classic example of "gone emeritus"....

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 03:15 | 4868149 vie
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Just to be clear, I did not add the quote to prove the point, but rather inspire people to look into the matter more deeply.  There is no "appeal to authority" here, I'm just not about to lay out the argument for the impact of the solar cycles and other space weather phenomenon on climate change.  At some point people have to look into things for themselves.

What I do know is the climate has changed long before humans were ever around, and it'll change long after.  That alone should tell you enough.  Realizing that other planets in the solar system are also undergoing even more significant climate change than Earth, should drive it home.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 08:56 | 4868627 Flakmeister
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Yes it has changed, for different reasons at different times and people should start here if they really want to learn about it

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.htm

And if you don't want to be called a Hedgetard, best to drop the nonsense about climate change on other planets untill you demonstrate that you sort of understand what is going on on this one..

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 19:10 | 4871521 vie
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You can call people "Hedgetard" all you want.  Because what's important is what random people on the internet think of you... bread and butter of shills though isn't it. Why do I get the sense this is what you do all day?

That book may be worth a read but I've already seen enough objective evidence to know anthropogenic global warming is bunk with a purely political agenda behind it, and people like you are paid to convince people otherwise.  We've got plenty of other real problems to deal with, we don't need giant heaps of bull to add to it.

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:01 | 4871841 Flakmeister
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The term Hedgetard is seen as a badge of honor by those upon which it is bestowed...

What is important to me is reality and truth...

To demonstrate that you you full of shit, please describe "objective evidence"....

We are *all* ears.....

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:29 | 4872403 vie
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Objective evidence, as in information based on facts that can be proven through analysis, measurement, observation, and other such means of research.

Looking at historic global tempuratures for instance, not just the cherry picked data promoted by the scientists the IPCC champions that violates their own standards.  The fact the alarmist models championed by the IPCC have been consistently incorrect over the past few decades, and not by any small margin.

The objective evidence that other models based on solar cycles have been much more accurate at predicting the direction and magnitude of global climate changes.

Not to mention the simple fact that correlation does not imply causation.  A correlation between tempuratures and CO2 doesn't mean one causes the other --as demonstrated by the extreme divergence between CO2 levels and global tempuratures over the past 100 years or so.  That is known as a Questionable Cause logical fallacy, but I'm sure you already knew that...

Shill on...

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:12 | 4872915 Flakmeister
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You have displayed nothing but tired old empty rhetoric based on discredited memes....

Do you understand the difference between objective and subjective? Based on the above you clearly don't...

If you don't think we understand the temperature record, chew on this 

http://web.archive.org/web/20091124213247/http://tamino.wordpress.com/20...

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2013/02/23/once-is-not-enough/

which links to 

http://web.archive.org/web/20100104073232/http://tamino.wordpress.com/20...

So stop make shit up and lying to yourself...

Face it you are a Hedgetard....

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:06 | 4887587 vie
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NO, you're a stupid lying HEDGETARD. ;)  (What do I win?)

Distort reality all you want, you're pretty obviously a shill ... and if you're not getting paid, you should be. ;)

Shill on!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:24 | 4870055 MeelionDollerBogus
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Climate is not the weather.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:42 | 4863260 ThankYouSatan
Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:09 | 4863348 Atomizer
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They don't know about spaceweather and cannot control the sun. They do know how to regulate taxes under fraudulent assumptions. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:45 | 4863445 Matt
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If the actual goal was to reduce CO2, they could simply raise royalties on hydrocarbon fuels, based on carbon content.

If they are proposing a new tax and regulations, they are actually working to create more government and more government jobs.

If they are proposing Carbon Credits, they are really working to create more trading revenues to skim off for people like Goldman Sachs.

If they are proposing feebates or any kind of program, it is to line the pockets of their favourite corporation.

There is no need to build a new government department and create thousands of pages of new rules and hire tens of thousands of new government employees, or to create more trading desks, or to funnel more money from people to corporations.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:55 | 4863996 Andre
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It you want to reduce CO2, plant more trees (photosynthesis). Oh, and people might want to stop putting farmland under concrete.

Funny thing. Without CO2 we'd all be dead.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 02:17 | 4864134 Matt
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Yeah, if only we could plant bamboo in the sahara and suck up excess CO2.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 03:18 | 4868152 vie
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Supposedly the algea in the ocean is by far the most significant consumer of CO2.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:23 | 4870048 MeelionDollerBogus
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Funny thing, with too much or too little CO2 we'd be dead equally.

Industrialization requires log-it-burn-it-pave-it.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:22 | 4863188 Deathrips
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Climate Tax...stop breathing.

HAARP.

RIPS

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:20 | 4870039 MeelionDollerBogus
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Very little CO2 comes from HAARP. Zero long-term heating comes from HAARP. It just doesn't work that way.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:25 | 4863192 Atomizer
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Follow my carret on stick. Desperate progressive measures for desperate times.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:25 | 4863195 spinone
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Lets get this straight - a student loan bailout is to the BANKS, not the students who were delinquint already.  The banks know they won't be paid.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 03:21 | 4868155 vie
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I've been doing some work in this area recently.  Interesting how by "forgiveness" they mean, we'll take 10% of your paycheck FOREVER.  Interesting to see how they're working that scam.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:25 | 4863196 buzzsaw99
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manbearpig is fearsome

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:25 | 4863198 Meat Hammer
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I put a "NO CLIMATE-CHANGE ZONE" sign in my yard.  I'm good.   

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:50 | 4863291 kaiserhoff
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Well done, yet some critters still challenge the efficacy of urban planing;)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:53 | 4863838 Miffed Microbio...
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I'm so done with this Climate change malarkey! Let's just be done with it.

I propose we build a giant dome in the Arizona desert, place plants, animals and insects inside, seal it for two years so it will be free of man made activity. Obviously, all will work in harmony and we will prove beyond a doubt there will be no build up of greenhouse gases. All the insane amount of money we will spend will be worth it just to find the answer.

On second thought, maybe it's wiser just debating it.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:52 | 4864628 Flakmeister
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Ah, the sweetest Hedgetard of them all...

The 'tardness runs deep as this one appears to be in denial of the changing C02 levels...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 03:26 | 4868165 vie
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No one is denying CO2 levels... They are rejecting that CO2 levels, which diverged from global tempuratures during the industrial revolution, have much to do with "global warming".  Probably because the IPCC models have failed to become anywhere close to accurate, yet continue to be extremely alarmist --even with a track record that is so poor they would pretty much have to be outright fraudulent to be that wrong.  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 09:02 | 4868649 Flakmeister
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I take it back, you are indeed a Hedgetard, albeit a polite one...

Making shit up is real bad form, for one, the IPCC doesn't have its own models....

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 18:53 | 4871457 vie
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I'm open to listening to counter points.  Ad-hominems and distortions of reality... not so much.

Shill on...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:03 | 4871855 Flakmeister
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Here is a free textbook... let me know when you are done:

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.htm

Starts from the very beginning...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:26 | 4863201 SmittyinLA
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I wonder did Irvine threaten the students with withholding of diplomas if they spoke out against the parasite Kenyan during his speech?

Or did they just submit? 

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:34 | 4863229 Skateboarder
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They're stateling duds.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:30 | 4863214 bugs_
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Bailouts only for those that think correctly, vote correctly, behave correctly.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:31 | 4863222 junction
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The most significant challenge for college students is not global warming but a tax system that robs from the middle class to support the 0.01%.  Social Security taxes, the almost 15% tax on wage earners up to about $115,000, now approaches the income from individual income taxes. SS taxes are a regressive tax that targets the middle class.  Thanks to Reagan, since 1984, Social Security retirement benefits are now taxable in most cases.  Hedge fund billionaires do not pay SS taxes on their "investment" carried interest income.  The power to tax is the power to destroy.  Hasta la vista, American middle class.

"The single largest source for the federal government’s record tax receipts in the first eight months of FY 2014 was the individual income tax, which brought the Treasury $903.024 trillion. The second largest source was what the Treasury calls “Social Insurance and Retirement Receipts,” which includes the Social Security payroll tax, the unemployment insurance tax and other retirement taxes. This accounted for $694.268 billion in tax revenue.

The third largest source of federal revenue in the first eight months of fiscal 2014 was the corporation income tax, which brought in $164.840 billion.'

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:18 | 4870033 MeelionDollerBogus
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FOOL. Anyone can avoid paying taxes, at the very least by leaving the nation, and also by hiding income or just working less.
NO ONE can avoid the extinction-level event that is global warming.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:34 | 4863227 Pairadimes
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He closed his remarks by announcing a $100 billion federal grant initiative for the development of a perpetual motion machine, and  reminded everyone to extinguish all smoking materials in the presence of phlogiston.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:33 | 4863228 Winston Churchill
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No CrackMiser comment on this thread  yet.

Must be busy falsifying some datasets somewhere.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:17 | 4870022 MeelionDollerBogus
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The only false data set I've seen so far is one pretending there's a 17 year pause in global warming.
There isn't.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2011-temps.html
NASA Finds 2011 Ninth-Warmest Year on Record

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2010-warmest-year.html
2010 and 2005 tied for warmest years EVER on record

"the next warmest years are 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2009, which are statistically tied for third warmest year. The GISS records begin in 1880."

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:35 | 4863231 Bunga Bunga
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Growth is killing the planet, not CO2. Primary energy production would exceed the solar constant in several hundred years. 2-3% per year sounds little, but it means doubling every 25-35 years. Just do the math.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:14 | 4863751 Lore
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If only it were that simple.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:15 | 4870017 MeelionDollerBogus
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It is. What's not simple is humans in denial refusing the obvious facts in front of one's face.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:13 | 4870006 MeelionDollerBogus
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The carbonic acid build-up in the oceans is killing them, the anoxic conditions will wipe out food supplies.
Fukushima isn't helping. Global warming is one of the outcomes of higher CO2 but acidic oceans are another.

These all are the outcomes of growth of humans exceeding the planet's capacity short-term. It will find its own long-term solution: removing the humans.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:40 | 4863238 Coldfire
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Obama wouldn't recognise "scientific evidence" if it sat naked on his lap, playing the ukelele. Global warming (no, you don't get to call it climate change) is for poetasters and quacks. Enjoy your chains, America.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:04 | 4863333 drendebe10
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What would one expect from such an incompetent arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic liar in chief only interested in its celebrity grand imperial golf life style.......   Fore!!!

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:01 | 4864759 Flakmeister
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Hedgetardtastic...

\hattip...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:57 | 4863255 ebworthen
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We could lauch fire extinguishers at the Sun.

Makes as much sense as all the "scientific evidence" the grant writers whip up over whine and cheese.  Sun cycles cause warming or cooling, we cause pollution.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:53 | 4863264 SgtShaftoe
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If humanity switched from industrial self-destructive agriculture to a permaculture based system, all the carbon released since 1900 would be tied up in compost and topsoil in 10 years, that is, if you're worried about the whole carbon bullshit manbearpig.  Personally, I'm far more worried about rebuilding nice topsoil and clean water so my family can eat and not die of thirst. 

We've lost half the topsoil in the midwestern united states in 100 years; something like 12 feet.  In most places, nature takes 1000 years to generate an inch.  Humans can create 8" in 40 years if done properly. 

Desertification and "climate change" has more to do with stupid agriculture practices than my fucking car. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:57 | 4863314 Dr. Acula
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Large animals pooping and trampling fertilizer everywhere is the best way to fight desertification.

We used to have ~60M bison doing that.

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:59 | 4863317 SgtShaftoe
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exactly, especially ruminants followed by chickens. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 05:36 | 4864215 Hobbleknee
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Don't forget: It was the government that paid for their extinction in order to kill off the indians.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:31 | 4863608 Idaho potato head
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Big AG,mono crop, monsanto, psychosis figures in there somewhere also.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:11 | 4863743 Postal
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Monsanto! That reminds me, I have to buy some stock.

/sarc

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:15 | 4863757 SgtShaftoe
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you betchem!  Goldman Sachs looks downright pleasant next to monsanto.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:44 | 4863271 Flakmeister
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This should be good for a Hedgetard feeding frenzy...

Already I can see the ignoranti are in fine form...

I'd love to play but tonight quality time with my lady comes first...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:50 | 4863293 Meat Hammer
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Yyyyyyeah...hahahahaha...rrrrrrright...hahahahahaha!!!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:55 | 4863846 Miffed Microbio...
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Actually, I think she is telling the truth.

Miffed;-)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:56 | 4863311 SgtShaftoe
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If you're so worried about it, go dig around in your garden and get to making compost, instead of running around here being a fucking dick. 

Something about "Being the change you want to see in the world" or some shit...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:31 | 4863415 Colonel Klink
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And by lady, you must mean lady-boy or blow up doll.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:08 | 4863738 nmewn
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Rosie Palm, he's planning on a long night and has sworn off petroleum jelly ;-)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:26 | 4863779 Lore
Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:16 | 4864544 Tachyon5321
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So you are giving yourself a hand job....

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:55 | 4864736 Duffy Duck
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Ah, the Fakemaster -

He so lacks the capacity to consider contrary evidence I wonder why anyone bothers with him.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:59 | 4864755 Flakmeister
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A Hedgetard clearly displaying Dunning-Kruger....

What "contrary"evidence and how relevant is it?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:23 | 4867518 MeelionDollerBogus
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So far no one's offered any contrary evidence. No readings of CO2 lower than claimed, same with no claims showing temperature has declined or gone flat.
Every time someone makes the claim they can't invalidate the actual data proving it wrong so those 'claims' are worthless, refuted, put to zero value of credibility.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:46 | 4863274 Stumpy4516
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The climate change topic is being pushed hard more recently.  Several have stated that climate change is a national security issue and that it is/will affect the military's battle readyness or will cause internal instability in the US.  A few congressmen have tested the water with statements that the military should be involved in the fight against climate change (how I do not know).

Obama is not just going along with the idea for votes but is now taking the lead to whip up a radical stance and ferver with the younger people.  And he encourages younger people to ridicule and not listen to the arguements of those who think differently.  (Kinda ironic to preach that at a college.)

Why?  Is it just money?  Is it carbon credit scams, govt giveaways to solar and wind power manufacturers, natural gas producers?

Or is more than just money?  If you believe in the chemtrails/geoengineering then how does it tie in.  Would geoengineering just be for the profits for the materials suppliers because otherwise I do not see the profit in it.  So what is the purpose?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:03 | 4863508 falconflight
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The central motivation is to control all economic activity and by extension all revenue and taxation.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 05:39 | 4864230 Hobbleknee
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If only they could get everyone on board with some sort of digital currency, so they could cut off everyone that won't comply...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:46 | 4863277 lynnybee
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scam scam scam scam & more scam.   There was no such thing as climate change when I was a kid, just another desperate ploy for tax money.  Kick these people out, tax revolts coming and for good reason.   

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:58 | 4864750 Flakmeister
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Classic Hedgetard Denial...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:20 | 4867513 MeelionDollerBogus
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When were you a kid, 1940?
I've been hearing about the gradual but accelerating climate change since the 1980's and seen it happen all along the way, as expected.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:12 | 4863285 deflator
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Obama knows damn well nothing will be done about climate change just like he knows that his ideology is worthless if it doesn't mesh with that of tptb.(that is how he got elected President) Doing something implies cutting back severely on the infinite growth economic model. There is zero chance of derailing the infinite economic growth model until collapse. Obama does however know that he is leaving a legacy of truth.(last laugh)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:55 | 4863294 NOZZLE
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So much for exploding sea levels and overtopped levees

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/sealevelENSO.png

Where are the jobs you promissed if we followed your policies you affirmative action clown asshole?  What are you going to blame that failure on,  wait for it "rayscism"?  Try looking at your substandard genetics and the brain damage you suffered in the womb as your grey dog CoalBurner mother spread her legs for every ghetto street organizer so they could bonk you in the head with their cocks. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:51 | 4863295 Atomizer
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Go back and review his Copenhagen Treaty speech. Align the missing dots. This is not rocket science. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:53 | 4863302 Dr. Acula
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>Obama said rising temperatures and sea levels

Dumb.

There have been 17 years of non-warming.

Also, sea levels were higher 5500 years ago.

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:15 | 4863566 Matt
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There was no Miami, New York, New Orleans 5500 years ago. Why the climate is changing does not matter, what matters is whether any efforts are made to adapt before or only after disasters.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:10 | 4864743 Flakmeister
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Ah, the popular 17 year Hedgetard meme... 

Even with your bullshit cherrypick of a record El Nino year we have had the following (ht to Greg Laden):

According to the NOAA GISS global instrumental record for temperatures (1880 to the present), since 2000 (inclusively) we have had...


 

  So far, for this period, 2010 has been the warmest year on record. 2005 has been the second warmest year on record. 2007 has been the third warmest year on record. 2002 has been the fourt warmest year on record. Last year, 2013, was the sixth warmest and 2003 the seventh. Of the 14 most recent full years, nine have been in the top ten.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:18 | 4867506 MeelionDollerBogus
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Except it has been warming every year compared to when you say it stopped.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2011-temps.html
NASA Finds 2011 Ninth-Warmest Year on Record

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2010-warmest-year.html
2010 and 2005 tied for warmest years EVER on record

"the next warmest years are 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2009, which are statistically tied for third warmest year. The GISS records begin in 1880."

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:54 | 4863305 Uncle Remus
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This bullshit has to stop. The shamelessness of it all is waaaaay beyond the pale.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 21:17 | 4867503 MeelionDollerBogus
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Bulls need jobs too.
Think of the harm to GDP if we put them out of a job!
Bull shit: where Number 2 is job # 1!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:54 | 4863307 nmewn
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I gotta say, he's ballsy.

Sucks the kiddies into a tax/fine/penalty ObamaCare vortex of lawful socialism, proclaiming they have "a right" to anothers labor and then does the reach around guilt-trip (with no gloves) saying in essence, all that Googling, I-Podding, flying/driving home to mom & dad and Spring Breaking is killing the planet!

After, he flew in with a caravan of SUV's from DC.

Yeah, right, Blutto just smashed an empty beer can on his forehead ;-)

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:49 | 4863677 Uncle Remus
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.

Sucks the kiddies into a tax/fine/penalty ObamaCare vortex of lawful socialism, proclaiming they have "a right" to anothers labor and then does the reach around guilt-trip (with no gloves) saying in essence, all that Googling, I-Podding, flying/driving home to mom & dad and Spring Breaking is killing the planet!

 

The scary part is they are buying it - right up to the bobber.

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:27 | 4863784 nmewn
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lol...hook, line & sinker.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:53 | 4864725 Flakmeister
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Just like you and the baldfaced dishonesty in the Forbes blog...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 19:59 | 4863318 starman
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“Americans are still asking, ‘Where are the jobs?,’"

 

BLOW JOBS BABY BLOW JOBS!!

 

the future is bright!

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:04 | 4863329 eXMachina
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If you want to keep your icecaps we need to tax you. Alternately, we'll do it anyway.

 

Also, I don't usually like to plan but when I do plan, I do it centrally.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 05:45 | 4864233 Hobbleknee
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P.S. We cannot guarantee that you can keep your ice caps.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:09 | 4863336 Dr. Acula
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> folks who stubbornly and automatically reject the scientific evidence

What evidence??? - "Apparent pause in global warming blamed on 'lousy' data" - http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jun/13/pause-global-warming-data-sea-level-rises

 

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:12 | 4863358 overmedicatedun...
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seems it is hotter now that they mention it, and all the snow has gone, yep the weather is warmer in these here united states, thank obuma for our summers- cause the winter was a bitch.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 15:14 | 4866295 MeelionDollerBogus
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Just like last winter/summer you seem to forget summer in North America is WINTER in SOUTH AMERICA and Australia.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:14 | 4863365 SgtShaftoe
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Good find.  There's been a bunch of climate change scientists who have changed their mind recently - now manbearpig skeptics.  I was going to respond to flakmeister's earlier challenge, but I was too lazy to dig up the sources. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:39 | 4863434 Dr. Acula
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Unadjusted data at this site show 130 years of cooling, but the "adjusted" data show 130 years of warming:

ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/ghcn/v3/products/stnplots/5/50793436001.gif

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:50 | 4864702 Flakmeister
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Write a paper....

Try not to be upset when you are laughed at...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:52 | 4864705 Flakmeister
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Sarge,

Now that is lame....

\facepalm...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 15:04 | 4866261 MeelionDollerBogus
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There is no pause. None measured whatsoever.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2011-temps.html
NASA Finds 2011 Ninth-Warmest Year on Record

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2010-warmest-year.html
2010 and 2005 tied for warmest years EVER on record

"the next warmest years are 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2009, which are statistically tied for third warmest year. The GISS records begin in 1880."

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:10 | 4863353 Ness.
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Everything this man says is divisive.  It's sickening that so many can't see thru this charade.  Funny no mention of the 27 people shot in his home town over Father's Day weekend.  Hey, I understand that father's day in the community that our HNIC "organized" is a very confusing time for those "folks", although, global weather warming climate change is bullish for ammo sales in Chicago (folks without FOID cards don't aim so good).  So if I were him, I wouldn't be speeching 'bout that either.

Now everyone hates us cause we're getting better at socce.., er, fuutball!?  

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:13 | 4863361 drendebe10
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Maybe there is global warming or maybe there isn't.... there is always climate change and it's cyclical over many, many, many years....  regardless, at one time the learned "scientific consensus" was the earth was flat and the center of the earth....  scientific consensus is not necessarily infallible or always correct....   if you're an academic in university and you don't subscribe to global warming, do you really think you're going to be revered by all the faculty who believe the "data" and you're going to get tenure?  Don't hold you're breath....  if you're publishing data against global warming and submit it to a peer reviewed journal most of the peers are believer, is your scientific article going to get a far shake in the face of that strong bias?  Ha!  Probably to get the truth, one needs independent, objective scientists knowledgable about climate who have no opinion one way or the other about global warming to review the studies, critically analyze the design and method of the studies to perform a metaanalysis.... don't hold you're breath....

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:49 | 4864698 Flakmeister
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It's amazing how science can work to give you all kinds of neat stuff that you accept without question but when it comes to something at odds with your ideology, you suddenly take a slug of the stupid sauce..

Classic Hedgetard nonsense...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4863448 Dre4dwolf
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hahaha its like asking people to fire themselves to save the environment, who is stupid enough to fall for that ?, even if climate change was real (its clearly not), who the hell cares? if the environment gets bad enough , the free market will fix it, FOR A PRICE.

If ONE volcano erupts, it puts out more Co2 than ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY for the past 2000 years in under a minute.

So what the fuck is the point of cutting back on Co2? if ONE volcanic eruption can burp more Co2 into the atmosphere than every barrel of oil produced on the planet instantly catching fire at the same time everyday for the next 100 years?

Its pointless, drive the hummer, smoke some cigs, drink your ass off and have a blast, because nothing you do actually has a net impact on the environment in the grand scheme of things.

 

The entire point of the climate change propoganda is to trick the population into cutting back on consumption so that the rich assholes can feel like they have a little more.

 

OBAMA CAN TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN.

He stops getting driven around in a 20,000 LB tank of a limo.

He stops taking airforce one on golf trips.

 

If I see Obama walking to work everyday, and driving a fucking prius to his golf outings, then maybe he can have a say.

 

Asking someone else to drive a  bicycle to "save the environment" when you are driving a hummer is the pinnacle of hypocrisy. 

 

All these idiots crying about "climate change" when Yellowstone is clearly going to erupt in the next 100 years or so. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4863473 falconflight
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The fact that by Executive fiat and a affirming filthy disgusting SCOTUS, my breath is legally codified as a pollutant is imo a pretty good milepost for the depths to which we have sunk.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4863482 Dre4dwolf
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For gods-sake the fucking government is trying to regulate Cow and Pig flatielance to "save the planet".

going so - far as to try and genetically modify pigs so they can't fart, I ask you all, would you eat a pig that can not fart? where does the fart go???? clearly it has to go somewhere!, most likely into your pork chops.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:59 | 4863501 falconflight
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Ideology of the State over the individual will progressively (no pun intended) work into an unstoppable insanity.  I'm sure you can envision where the dogma of the State and its master The Party can and will likely lead.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:11 | 4864693 Flakmeister
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Making shit up about volcanos I see...

A popular Hedgetard denialist meme...

Volcanos are ~1% of human emissions and in case you didn't notice eruptions are associated with cooling....

Published reviews of the scientific literature by Mörner and Etiope (2002) and Kerrick (2001) report a minimum-maximum range of emission of 65 to 319 million tonnes of CO2 per year. 

Here are C02 levels vs the 3 largest recent eruptions

http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/CO2_vs_Volcano.gif

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 14:57 | 4866232 MeelionDollerBogus
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Utter nonsense. Climate change is clearly repeatedly measured and the industrial output of all the billions of barrels of oil we burn far, far exceeds the output of CO2, methane & other toxins from volcanic activity.

The entire point of ADMITTING CLIMATE CHANGE is to SAVE OUR MONEY, SAVE OUR RESOURCES and have MORE, not for the elite but for EACH OF US PERSONALLY.

If we don't then we lose our crops, lose our shorelines (shelter is there), lose our food supplies from the seas too as the acidic oceans die.

This is killing us all and before Fukushima was the #1 extinction-level event coming.

The climate change from global warming WILL WIPE OUT ALL HUMANS in less than 200 years 100%. No question. no avoiding it.

Thankfully we've got Fukushima to speed that up for us now so we can finally stop worrying about climate change.

It's coming but Fukushima will kill you first.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:49 | 4863460 falconflight
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Sick pathetic society, not so dissimilar in trend line to the Bolsheviks or the National Socialists.  Read the Gulag Archipelago to refresh your memory.  

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4863471 Dr. Acula
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Sorry, this shit is just hilarious!!

"dial “M” for missing minus signs... The data shown between 4/13 and 4/15 were based on data downloaded on 4/12 and included some station reports from Finland in which the minus sign may have been dropped."

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/17/giss-metar-dial-m-for-missing-minus-signs-its-worse-than-we-thought/

"FUBAR high temp/climate records from faulty sensor to remain in place at Honolulu... Even though NOAA admits the sensor is in error by as much as 2 degrees, they are going to keep the data and the string of new high temperature records. “BUT” they fixed the recent record rainfall data from the same station. See below. How’s that for science?"

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/17/noaa-fubar-high-tempclimate-records-from-faulty-sensor-to-remain-in-place-at-honolulu/

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 14:53 | 4866210 MeelionDollerBogus
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I'm highly skeptical now. Wattsup has repeatedly given wrong information in the past. I'll have to be sure anything claimed is claimed anywhere else other than wattsup. Flat out, that site is no good.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 14:55 | 4866229 Flakmeister
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Citing  4 and 5 year old posts from WUWT should be telling you just how relevant it is...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:56 | 4863484 falconflight
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Scientific Rationalism was the hallmark  of the Communist experiment.  Scientists were the first to be corruptible in support  of the all powerful State.  

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:02 | 4864069 Dr. Acula
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Guess they didn't understand praxeology.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:24 | 4863570 ThroxxOfVron
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Anyone up for a trip down the Rabbit Hole for a visit to The Wizard of Emerarld City? 

Prepared to do some homework?   DRINK ME.

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2010/05/14/crime-inc-what-greening-america-...

"It's a safe bet that most Americans' first exposure to the concept of carbon trading or cap-and-trade legislation came during the most recent presidential campaign when both candidates advocated the need to make protecting the environment a government mandate instead of the moral obligation it's always been. In the past few months President Barack Obama has repeatedly stated that a comprehensive energy/environmental law, including cap-and-trade, is an absolute priority of his administration.

Cap-and-Trade

Simply put, the idea behind the cap-and-trade plan is this: The federal government would set limits or cap the amount of pollutant a business could create. If the business chose to emit levels exceeding the cap they would have to find a business not using its full allotment and purchase the surplus from them. Needless-to-say, for the concept to work there would need to be a highly centralized infrastructure to facilitate the transactions, matching buyers to sellers.

The CCX: A Dream Come True?

For people like Richard Sandor and former Vice-President Al Gore the focus on "green politics" represented the culmination of years of planning and a giant step towards a massive payday.

With a big helping hand from then Illinois State Senator Barack Obama, Sandor's brainchild, The Chicago Climate Exchange, opened for business in 2003 billing itself as "North America's only cap-and-trade system for greenhouse gases..." In other words, the facilitator for a scheme not quite hatched. Sandor, a long-time economist turned environmentalist shared his vision during a 1990 interview with the Wall Street Journal, saying, "Air and water are no longer the free goods that economics once assumed. They must be redefined as property rights so that they can be efficiently allocated." The statement didn't get a lot of attention back then but today seems prophetic. Sandor claims his idea of efficient allocation, also known as carbon trading, will develop into a $10 trillion industry.

Assembling the Team

During 2000 and 2001, the Joyce Foundation, a progressive trust with assets near $1 billion, known for funding groups like Center for American Progress and Tides Foundation, provided grants to CCX totaling $1.1 million. State Senator Obama served on the foundation's board of directors during that time and was instrumental in awarding the grants.

Shortly after the first grant was approved, the president of The Joyce Foundation, Paula DiPerna, left to join the executive team of CCX. Other notables with familiar names soon followed.

 Former Vice-President Al Gore became part-owner of CCX when his company, Generation Investment Management, made a sizeable investment. Gore brought with him his senior partner at GIM, David Blood, former CEO of Goldman Sachs Asset Management, along with a company chalk full of former Goldman Sachs' executives

 Goldman Sachs itself soon joined the team buying a ten percent interest in CCX

 Maurice Strong, once linked to Tongsun Park, the central figure in the United Nation's oil-for-food scandal in 2005 and one of the architects of the Kyoto Protocol, joined the CCX board of directors

 Carlton Bartels was one of the first, and perhaps most important, additions to the CCX roster. As CEO of a company called CO2e, Bartels developed and delivered the actual guts of the exchange — a system for facilitating and managing the actual carbon trades

Strange Bedfellows

Just three weeks after filing for a patent for his carbon trade system, Bartels was killed during the attacks of 9/11. Bartels' death opened the door for a new partner to join CCX, easily the oddest fit of them all: Fannie Mae. In a move still unexplained, the quasi-governmental mortgage agency, led by CEO Franklin Raines, purchased the rights to the system from Bartel's widow. A patent on the invention was granted to Raines and Fannie Mae on November 7, 2006, ironically, the day after the Democrats regained control of Congress. According to Barbara Hollingsworth of the Washington Examiner, the patent covers both the "cap" and "trade" parts of Obama's top domestic energy initiative and gives Fannie Mae proprietary control over the automated trading system used by Sandor's CCX.

When asked about the patent recently Fannie Mae communications director Amy Bonitatibus told the Washington Examiner, "Fannie Mae earns no money on this patent. We can't conjecture as to the cap-and-trade legislation." A source close to Fannie Mae, however, says a plan is in place to funnel future earnings from the patent to a non-profit housing organization called Enterprise Community Partners. Ironically, Raines, who left Fannie Mae in 2004 amidst allegations that he inflated earnings reports in order to collect higher bonuses ($52 million in bonuses over 5-years; $90 million in total compensation), serves on the board of trustees at Enterprise. In a continuation of theme, Goldman Sachs also has a representative on the board in the person of Alicia Glen.

Off to See the Wizard

In December 2009 The Joyce Foundation awarded Raines and Enterprise a $200,000 grant to launch Emerald Cities Collaborative. According to its website, "The Emerald Cities Collaborative (ECC) is a start-up, national coalition of diverse groups that includes unions, labor groups, community organizations, social justice advocates, development intermediaries, research and technical assistance providers, socially responsible businesses, and elected officials."

Emerald Cities' goal is "the greening of our nation's central cities and the creation of a "new vital economic sector." The collaborative is headed up by Joel Rogers, widely recognized as the "man behind the curtain" of today's progressive political movement. Rogers founded the powerful Apollo Alliance, the group recognized as having shaped much of the Obama administration's stimulus bill. Former White House green jobs "czar," Van Jones, described Rogers influence this way: "The best thinking that he represents… is now represented in the White House."

Also represented on the Emerald Cities board of directors, Gerald Hudson, executive director of SEIU (also on the Apollo Alliance advisory board); Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins, CEO of Green For All (created by Van Jones), and Doris Koo, CEO of Enterprise Community Partners, along with a collection of other union and community activist regulars."

 

Welcome to Wonderland/Underland.   Have a look around.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 15:13 | 4866285 Flakmeister
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Does that rabbit hole of yours also involve time travel? Cutting and pasting OpEd pages from 5 years ago?

Typical Hedgetard nonsense, WTF does CapN'Trade have to do with veracity of AGW? Unless you agree that AGW is correct but CapNTrade is a bad idea...

But I really really doubt that...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:28 | 4863605 MedicalQuack
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I live in the OC and was not at the commencement of course but the President went down to a nice rich GOP area to home for a fund raiser too. 

What gets me though is the White House communication bot.  It's awful and they are kind of shooting themselves in the foot with the climate change as you don't put junk science numbers saying in a year with the commencement of this happening there will be 2200 fewer heart attacks, 100,000 fewer asthma attacks and a few other numbers tossed as you can't predict that...so junk science and would have been better of without trying to put quantitated junk numbers in there as it will end up shooting him in the foot. In the rich area of Monarch Bay which big GOP land in the OC, the President was met with some protesters too. 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/06/junk-science-appearing-everywhere...

We see fake numbers all the time and we have this little methodology going with quantitating everything which you can't. 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/12/quantitated-justification-for-bel...

When the quants can't create a relationship with millions of pieces of data, well they just make one up.  Video clip from the #1 Quant in the world, Paul Wilmott.  Everyone should listen to a guy who did math models for years when he tells you they cheat.

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/06/when-models-are-too-complex-with-...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:53 | 4863691 kurt
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This reminds me of my friend in grade school. He kept a lengthy tally of everything he perceived he did for you. He counted stuff like his mom giving me a piece of apple pie 8 months ago as though it was his idea and his largess in granting me the piece of pie. Even if he didn't, he still counted it as a favor in his list and referred to repeatedly when ever he demanded something of yours he wanted, and that request list was bottomless. He sculked if you deigned to refuse his request, keeping that affair in his equally extensive list of crimes against him personally. Thing was he never gave anything good. 

Anyway, I got cool and started a band and left him and his sorry ass out my life forever after.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:55 | 4863695 ifishivote
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These guys can't get a 5 day forecast correct never mind a 100 year prediction. I live on the water and in the last 10 yrs i haven't seen one bit of difference. If you want to see how I did today click below.

www.fishgaakcom.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:05 | 4864073 Dr. Acula
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IPCC doesn't make predictions, only "projections".

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:34 | 4864107 Dr. Acula
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They couldn't predict the 17+ year pause. A magic 8-ball or the naive "no change" hypothesis has more predictive power.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 14:29 | 4866097 MeelionDollerBogus
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Predict?
You can't even SHOW a 17 year pause - there isn't one.
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2011-temps.html
NASA Finds 2011 Ninth-Warmest Year on Record

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2010-warmest-year.html
2010 and 2005 tied for warmest years EVER on record

"the next warmest years are 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2009, which are statistically tied for third warmest year. The GISS records begin in 1880."

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:38 | 4864650 Flakmeister
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Clearly you have no idea what the difference is between an initial value problem and a boundary value problem...

Best keep your childlike grasp of matters to yourself...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:00 | 4863708 butchtrucks
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The retard is strong in this thread.  Makes one despair of the American education system. Sigh.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:09 | 4863739 homiegot
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Vague much?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:39 | 4864653 Flakmeister
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It was very clear to some of us...

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:07 | 4863733 homiegot
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Please make this tampon stop.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:15 | 4863748 Tachyon5321
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The true meaning of Obama's policies:

Uneducated ignorant deamers on welfare are our future

You can keep your old doctor but your bronze plan has a $6000 deductable. 

Solar and Wind energy will create millions of new jobs in China and Europe

Global Warming and Climate Change are import because it will increase goverment tax revenues. 

Service jobs are the new economy because everyone not on welfare will work at McDonalds, Wendys or Subways.

Open presidency means our government buys 1 billion rounds of 40 cal hollow point pistol ammo. So everyone gets 3 free bullets to the head.

EPA Fuel Efficiency Standard of 54.5 mpg boost Chevy Volt sales to the dealers parking lots. 

The three law of AI = revoltion is inevitable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:03 | 4863869 damicol
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Recent investigations into climate change prrove that Japanese macaques have almost 5 times the intelligence of the Kenyan Chacma Baboons.

Japanese macaques seek the shade at noon


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:11 | 4863890 10mm
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Like a Cult. Ill rid you of this, follow me on that.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 03:04 | 4864164 Roger Knights
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Here's WUWT-commenters' spicy response to that speech:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/15/obama-invokes-tauntology-in-discus...

(Full copy of the speech is included in one comment.)

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 10:12 | 4864804 Flakmeister
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What the fuck is a tauntology?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 13:05 | 4865612 kurt
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Why do you care you clamydia infested flappin' pussy hole? Now I've smelled rainbow trout and old mackeral and yours comes wafting accross the room like a waxy residue. Why would I break down the meaning of the word when it wouldn't get past your unchanged diaphram and dripping goo?

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 13:11 | 4865640 Flakmeister
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Seems you have me confused with your mother...

Try again, Hedgetard...

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 15:58 | 4866418 kurt
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Mom, I always knew you were a problem.

OK, OK so you didn't understand. Taunt: to anger and provoke

                                                                       ology: the study of

 

I just gave you an example first. You are so easily taunted. Do you have an anger issue? I can help. I care. Look, I came back two hours later to check on you. There you were wringing out you poor red little teary eyes. I just want to hug you you're so cute. Did somebody miss his nappy? Here, here now have some coco.

 

 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 16:27 | 4866585 Flakmeister
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Obviously Watts was trying to be clever with his very own punny portmanteau...

Doesn;t change the fact that the article is based on a deliberate misunderstanding or that AW truly doesn;t know what taunting is....

In other words, standard WWUT nonsense aimed at Hedgetards and thier ilk....

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