"US Willing To Work With Iran" But John Kerry Claims ISIS Doesn't Have Ability To Overrun Baghdad

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Despite Secretary of State John Kerry predicting today that Sunni militants in Iraq do not have the ability to overrun Baghdad, the Obama administration is willing to talk with Iran over deteriorating security conditions in Iraq and is not ruling out potential U.S.-Iranian military cooperation in stemming the advance of Sunni extremists. Speaking with Yahoo's Katie Kouric, Kerry confidently explained, "I don’t believe that they will in the near term certainly, and I don’t believe they necessarily can at all," overrun Baghdad or other major cities. Having "absolutely, unquestionably" denied that the turmoil in Iraq could have been prevented if US left a residual force, he somewhat shockingly submitted that the US is "open to any constructive process here [with Iran] that can minimize the violence, hold Iraq together, the integrity of the country and eliminate the presence of outside terrorist forces."

Baghdad not in trouble (well that's jinxed it)...

Secretary of State John Kerry predicted Monday that Sunni militants in Iraq do not have the ability to overrun Baghdad.


During an interview with Yahoo News, Kerry said he is “absolutely convinced” the U.S. Embassy there has the security to keeps U.S. personnel safe as a militants with the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria have taken over a number of large cities in the country.


“I don’t believe that they will in the near term certainly, and I don’t believe they necessarily can at all,” he said of the group’s ability to take over the capital. “But that remains to be determined by the decision that are made over the course of the next few days.”

And while Baghdad is safe, the US is willing to work with its old enemy Iran...

The Obama administration is willing to talk with Iran over deteriorating security conditions in Iraq and is not ruling out potential U.S.-Iranian military cooperation in stemming the advance of Sunni extremists, Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday.

Kerry said the administration was open to any constructive process that would reduce violence.

Let's see what Iran might or might not be willing to do before we start making any pronouncements,” Kerry told Yahoo News. “I think we are open to any constructive process here that can minimize the violence, hold Iraq together, the integrity of the country and eliminate the presence of outside terrorist forces.”


“We’re open to discussions if there is something constructive that can be contributed by Iran, if Iran is prepared to do something that is going to respect the integrity and sovereignty of Iraq and ability of the government to reform,” Kerry said.


Separately, Deputy Secretary of State William Burns may raise the issue with Iran when talks over that country’s nuclear program resume in Geneva on Wednesday.


We are sure that will all end well. Yes, you can keep your Nuclear Weapons (just promise not to thretane Israel more than 3 times per year) as long as you 'fix' Iraq...

Of course, it wouldn't be US politics without some WWII analogies...

On Sunday, Graham said that a U.S. alliance with Iran might be needed to keep Iraq from collapsing.


He said a U.S. partnership with Iran would make him uncomfortable but likened it to the United States working with Soviet leader Josef Stalin in World War II against Adolf Hitler.

Small world eh, but we'd hate to paint it.

As we noted before in our "Lines In The Sand" post, it's tough to know who your friends are (if any)...

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Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:46 | 4863451 Five8Charlie
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Iran is laughing at us.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4863463 max2205
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Come on John.....1 hove if they can two if they can't. ....bbbbbrrrrrruuuuuuhhhhhh

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:51 | 4863467 knukles
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The whole world is laughing at us.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4863469 macholatte
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Please, somebody, post links to something Kerry has done in the last 20 years that was original and beneficial to the average American.


I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office.

Andrew Jackson


I'm fascinated by rap and by hip-hop. I think there's a lot of poetry in it. There's a lot of anger, a lot of social energy in it. And I think you'd better listen to it pretty carefully, 'cause it's important.

John F. Kerry



Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:54 | 4863477 knukles
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Can anybody figure the fuck out who is on whose side anymore?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4863480 El Vaquero
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I'm on my side knucks.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:58 | 4863498 knukles
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That makes you one of the few sane and very special, Vaquero

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:02 | 4863507 Never One Roach
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Emergency air lifting the folks out of Baghdad reasssures me we have everything under control.




Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:11 | 4863545 kliguy38
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John's puttin' on his big boy pants and gettin' ready to go out hunt shells on Martha's Vineyard after a rough day on the back nine....then its roasted corn and clams at nine...and then its sex toys with mommy at 11.........

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:12 | 4863679 mjcOH1
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"Speaking with Yahoo's Katie Kouric, Kerry confidently explained, "I don’t believe that they will in the near term certainly, and I don’t believe they necessarily can at all," overrun Baghdad or other major cities."


Ground control to Major John.....is Mosul not the fifth largest city in Iraq, and with 1.7million residents larger than the 5th largest city in the US (Philadelphia...population 1.5million)?

What's the red-line here for 'major'?  No tier 1 yacht club?   No Heinz distributorship?   Can't get a decent hot toddy at the Mosul Hilton?    No direct flight to Marth's Vineyard?  

Enquiring minds want to know.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 23:24 | 4863936 Rootin' for Putin
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I was thinking that too.  Of course JK has all the invoices for the weapons and ammmo and training he has given isis so maybe he knows what they can do.

Although he may have to include the new hardware they have looted and what the $429 million they just got from the bank will buy them.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 07:53 | 4864326 Keyser
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Kerry will just bore them to death with his monotone drivel... I often wonder why we have such idiots in government, then realize that anyone with any brains would avoid elected / appointed positions like the plague...


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4863555 Boomberg
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Hey can i be on your side too? I know nothing about you but at least I know where I stand. 

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:30 | 4864103 All is chosen
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Tony Blair?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:53 | 4863468 RaiZH
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Not as much as those Wahhabis over at the House of Saud. 

Divide and Conquer. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:59 | 4863500 TeethVillage88s
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Has to be a word: Mea Culpa maybe?

As the worlds only Financial, Military & Political Superpower (for now)

- The US Leaders will not bow, apologize, beg, differ leadership in anything. The US Ego & Competitiveness even now prevents us from doing a normal military after action report or Review of Actions of our Foreign Policy, drone Policy, Hegemonic Policy, or policy of supporting tyrants & dictators. Dirty Wars are not new and the US Seems to have been involved in suppression of Democracy all over South American and the Middle East.

- Look at Dems & GOP in Washington DC you never see responsibility, honesty, transparency, openness, or any attempt to fix the problems, fictions, and frauds of the past. The US Intelligence Committees being a big part of this.

- We use Proxies to conduct foreign policy and to spy on all of the worlds people so why admit the tiniest transgression.

- Since we won't apologize or differ any leadership to Iran, MY GUESS IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN OR NEVER WORK PAST 30 Days.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4863580 Berspankme
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Did couric blow him as usual?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:47 | 4863453 Sutton
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In other words, Bye Bye Baghdad.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4863454 navy62802
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If John Kerry says it, you should anticipate exactly the opposite happening. The man is an idiot. Besides, one should never underestimate the enemy under any circumstances.

Here is what I see happening. The US and Iran come to some sort of deal whereby Iranian forces deploy to Baghdad to defend the city. Then, ISIS forces begin advancing on the Embassy and the US launches an air raid that kills ISIS fighters but also kills Iranian soldiers. Then we have an entirely new problem on our hands.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:04 | 4863514 Make_Mine_A_Double
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+1 Kerry has been wrong on every god damn micro or Marco global issue for last 40+ years - every g d time.

Therefore given this statement fire up the Sea Stallions and prepare for evacuation.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:16 | 4863564 machineh
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Kerry said he is “absolutely convinced” the U.S. Embassy there has the security to keeps U.S. personnel safe.

Of course. There's a 'safe room' bunker in the basement.

Everyone can just lock thseemlves in, send some texts, and wait for the attackers to go out for pizza.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 01:41 | 4864113 andrewp111
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It is just about time for an Israeli nuke strike on Iran. Then the ISIS Caliphate can take them out too.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:49 | 4863455 SilverIsMoney
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We are already in the 1984 moment where the enemy and allies keep chaning so often it's hard to remember... it's only going to get worse. Demand of every elected official that we close all of our bases and bring our troops home. Freedom here starts with bringing everyone back to fight for it... They can go secure the border first. We have more nukes than we'll ever need to defend ourselves and the chances of terrorist attacks only increase with our support to Israel and Occupation/Manipulation of the Middle East.


Ron Paul was right.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:48 | 4863458 El Vaquero
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Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:49 | 4863461 Milton Waddams
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Shock Doctrine

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4863462 Reaper
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The Obama/Kerry kiss of death for Iraq?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:54 | 4863474 Atomizer
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Ha ha ha, this shit hole debacle never gets better. John Kerry is just pealing a onion. Tears sent off the the next proxy war. 

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:57 | 4863488 Osmium
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Let's see, they went through the rest of the country like shit through a goose, but NO WAY can they over run Baghdad

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:57 | 4863489 Chupacabra-322
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What will surprise those who may already be surprised about the Dönmeh connection to Turkey, is the Dönmeh connection to the House of Saud in Saudi Arabia.

An Iraqi Mukhabarat (General Military Intelligence Directorate) Top Secret report, “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots,” dated September 2002 and released on March 13, 2008, by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency in translated English form, points to the Dönmeh roots of the founder of the Saudi Wahhabi sect of Islam, Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab. Much of the information is gleaned from the memoirs of a “Mr. Humfer,” (as spelled in the DIA report, “Mr. Hempher” as spelled the historical record) a British spy who used the name “Mohammad,” claimed to be an Azeri who spoke Turkish, Persian, and Arabic and who made contact with Wahhab in the mid-18th century with a view of creating a sect of Islam that would eventually bring about an Arab revolt against the Ottomans and pave the way for the introduction of a Jewish state in Palestine. Humfer’s memoirs are recounted by the Ottoman writer and admiral Ayyub Sabri Pasha in his 1888 work, “The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism.”

In his book, The Dönmeh Jews, D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq. The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis, Rifat Salim Kabar reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.” In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdel Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.

The Iraqi report also makes some astounding claims about the Saud family. It cites Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim al-Shammari’s book, The Wahhabi Movement: The Truth and Roots, which states that King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud, the first Kingdom of Saudi Arabia monarch, was descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Moishe, a Jewish merchant also from Basra. In Nejd, Moishe joined the Aniza tribe and changed his name to Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa. Eventually, Mordechai married off his son, Jack Dan, who became Al-Qarn, to a woman from the Anzah tribe of the Nejd. From this union, the future Saud family was born.


Tue, 06/17/2014 - 09:46 | 4864691 TruthHunter
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The British had a clever plan for supporting the House of Saud.

A backward reactionary group in charge of Mecca seemed a great idea.

They didn't count on oil. 


The House still hasn't paid its retribution for the genocide it inflicted on the Peninsula.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:57 | 4863492 GooseShtepping Moron
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Beware of Persians bearing gifts. Ahmadinejad and Rouhani have been studying under Putin and now they know how to play this just right. Iran will "offer its assitance," keep the peace (relatively speaking) in Iraq, then tell the war-weary Americans "You guys can go on home now, we got this one--oh, but we could use a few hundred billion in foreign aid to cover expenses," and then they'll own the place.

Who needs suicide bombers and hijacked airliners when you can just get the pitiful giant to hand the world over to you?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:58 | 4863494 Yen Cross
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     Famous last words straight from the horses mouth...Just like the Ukraine peace deal.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 20:58 | 4863499 Tracerfan
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The U.S. broke Iraq and is now breaking Syria and Ukraine.

Now the U.S. isn't happy that the people helping it break Syria have futher broken Iraq, and is willing to work with Iran (which is trying not to break Syria) to help not further break Iraq.

The stench of U.S. government hypocricy and meddling is infinite.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:02 | 4863504 Osmium
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+1 for being able to explain it.

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 00:05 | 4864010 napper
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Succinct. Accurate. Comical.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:03 | 4863512 Never One Roach
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I can see oil hitting $150 by end of year.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:04 | 4863515 Catullus
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ISIS? Isn't that the spy agency in Archer?

Let's see... an installed Shia government that's been slaughtering Sunnis and preventing them being in the Iraqi government. Yeah. They'll never take Baghdad. No one in that city wants revenge.


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:07 | 4863731 NoDebt
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I think you're right, Catullus.  Up arrow for mentioning Archer.  Love that show.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:07 | 4863517 khakuda
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So let's see, now we negotiate with terrorists and trade them 5 for 1.  And the Iranians are our buddies.  The Commander in Chief announces to ISIS not to worry, no ground opposition is forthcoming.  The IRS is allowed to lose critical email records like Nixon's Watergate tape gap with little fallout.  The Fed is allowed to create money out of thin air to buy whatever they want and leave interest rates at zero for as long as they want .  Student debt can be repudiated after a set period of time.

Seriously, what country is this?

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:11 | 4863547 Xibalba
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The International State of Control

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:14 | 4863519 earleflorida
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the last thing iran needs is the great satan's help, period!

bush#43 and team... the, 'axis of evil', progenitors, play'd this scenario on their 3D matrix ic/cpu 30 x 60 sq.ft. square screen at foggy bottom back in 2000/pre-election a ziilion times.

it's all coming together nicely now, with iraq finally about to welcome?, and invite with open arms?, the great satan. and, with iran knowing now (perhaps it isn't to late for iran and iraq to tell bush inc & co., to go and fuck themselves) that the matrix is flashing RED!!!

a two-fer if iraq let's the exceptionalist in their back yard via iran.

has anyone notice how quiet NK has been lately... because there's black clouds overhead, and it's not a natural tsunami?

we got em!....................... all


Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:07 | 4863530 Atomizer
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Hinez ketchup surplus or broken market share into new emerging markets? Tell us the truth. We will finally uncover it. Denial gets you fired.  

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4863541 Duc888
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Make_Mine_a_double :+1 Kerry has been wrong on every god damn micro or Marco global issue for last 40+ years - every g d time.


Absolutely.  I hope he runs for POTUS, he's a shoe-in.  I might start voting again.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4863558 pakled
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Speaking with Yahoo's Katie Kouric..., Kerry confidently explained, ... I don’t believe they necessarily can at all," overrun Baghdad or other major cities


'Yahoo's Katie Kouric'. 'other major cities'. OMG. Not counting the second major city. Hmm. Just one Yahoo to another.


"I feel safer already"

- Hudson


ps - gotta love those ZH maps.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4863577 cristo
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if i was to advise Iran i would just tell them "IT'S A TRAP !!!!!!!!!!"

All the USA has done in the past 35 years is try and fuck you up and now they need your help , you guys can't be that stupid and fall for that shit . Sit back and get some popcorn and stay the fuck out .

Tue, 06/17/2014 - 05:07 | 4864221 Maxter
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Yea maybe they want to get Iran involve now. And then they escalate the war to give Iran a hard time.  And then somehow we switch side again so that we are finaly fighting Iran.

Then we try to conquere their whole country.



Why not at this point..

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:21 | 4863587 TeethVillage88s
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Different Perspective from Kerry King Ningarsu

Isis Has Provoked a General Sunni Uprising.

By Patrick Cockburn Reporting From Baghdad

At least seven or eight militant Sunni factions are involved, many led by former Baathists and officers from Saddam Hussein’s security services.



The U.S. Puppet Regimes In The Muslim World
Are All Paper Tiger Tyrannies Hated By Their Oppressed People

By Jack D. Douglas

The U.S. War Against Islam, which began with the annihilations of Afghanistan and Iraq roughly thirteen years ago, led to a sudden, immense, secret transformation of the Muslim World.



Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:20 | 4863604 tony wilson
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rockefella deaths nat rothschild gay weakness.

active common law  court cases against queen elizabeth and child raping south american popes.

time and money runs.

maps always about the maps.

deal with iran backroom bonanaza

iraq cut up into 3

a redrawing of the maps.

chatham rothschild house style.


israels stays silent cos day in on der fucking whole war is a racket


The following map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy. (Map Copyright Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters 2006).
Although the map does not officially reflect Pentagon doctrine, it has been used in a training program at NATO’s Defense College for senior military officers.



Mon, 06/16/2014 - 22:24 | 4863775 thamnosma
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Fascinating.  Thanks for that map.  I've seen Peters on Fox since the "War on Terror" began after 9/11, though I don't watch Fox or cable news at all now.  Don't know if he's still active.

Mon, 06/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4863617 Fix It Again Timmy
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Well, you know, if you can't even get a website up and runnning in ENGLISH, then it should logically follow that controlling a country whose language you can't even say hello in should be a piece of cake.  Now carrying this a bit further - it should THEN be extremely easy controlling an entire region whose languages, cultures, and alliances are a total mystery to you to the extent that you are nearly clueless.  Our entire foreign policy can be summed up thusly - "The less we know, the better things will turn out - 'cuz were 'Mericans...."

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