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The Latest From Iraq - The Complete Troop Movements
With stocks up and oil down, Iraq must be fixed?
However, things appear to be just as atrocious...
Executing #Iraq security forces close to border with #Syria
Also look at their dresses. #ISIS pic.twitter.com/YyYh33bER4
— Hunain Z. (@hunainzaydi) June 17, 2014
And it appears the locals aren't staying around to check...
People fleeing Tel Afar west of #Mosul earlier this week pic.twitter.com/1hOduSA2gu
— Zaid Benjamin (@zaidbenjamin) June 17, 2014
And as The Institute for the Study of War notes, the violent clashes continue from north to south in Iraq.
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Iraq War Theatre.
Yup... that's about right...
Forgot all about your collapsing economy, didn't you? Unfortunately, it's not fake blood.
Krugman would argue this is GDP positive, so those are green shoots dyed red...
This just in..........
BLOWBACK! U.S. TRAINED ISIS AT SECRET JORDAN BASE
Described as covert aid to insurgents targeting al-Assad
Published: 4 hours ago
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JERUSALEM – Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan, according to informed Jordanian officials.
The officials said dozens of ISIS members were trained at the time as part of covert aid to the insurgents targeting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.
The Jordanian officials said all ISIS members who received U.S. training to fight in Syria were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.
In February 2012, WND was first to report the U.S., Turkey and Jordan were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region.
That report has since been corroborated by numerous other media accounts.
Last March, the German weekly Der Spiegel reported Americans were training Syrian rebels in Jordan.
Quoting what it said were training participants and organizers, Der Spiegel reported it was not clear whether the Americans worked for private firms or were with the U.S. Army, but the magazine said some organizers wore uniforms. The training in Jordan reportedly focused on use of anti-tank weaponry.
The German magazine reported some 200 men received the training over the previous three months amid U.S. plans to train a total of 1,200 members of the Free Syrian Army in two camps in the south and the east of Jordan.
Britain’s Guardian newspaper also reported last March that U.S. trainers were aiding Syrian rebels in Jordan along with British and French instructors.
Reuters reported a spokesman for the U.S. Defense Department declined immediate comment on the German magazine’s report. The French foreign ministry and Britain’s foreign and defense ministries also would not comment to Reuters.
The Jordanian officials spoke to WND amid concern the sectarian violence in Iraq will spill over into their own country as well as into Syria.
ISIS previously posted a video on YouTube threatening to move on Jordan and “slaughter” King Abdullah, whom they view as an enemy of Islam.
WND reported last week that, according to Jordanian and Syrian regime sources, Saudi Arabia has been arming the ISIS and that the Saudis are a driving force in supporting the al-Qaida-linked group.
WND further reported that, according to a Shiite source in contact with a high official in the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, the Obama administration has been aware for two months that the al-Qaida-inspired group that has taken over two Iraqi cities and now is threatening Baghdad also was training fighters in Turkey.
The source told WND that at least one of the training camps of the group Iraq of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Syria, the ISIS, is in the vicinity of Incirlik Air Base near Adana, Turkey, where American personnel and equipment are located.
He called Obama “an accomplice” in the attacks that are threatening the Maliki government the U.S. helped establish through the Iraq war.
The source said that after training in Turkey, thousands of ISIS fighters went to Iraq by way of Syria to join the effort to establish an Islamic caliphate subject to strict Islamic law, or Shariah.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-base-in-...
At least there'll still be Christmas
https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=AwrTcXcYhaBTi30Abf6Jzbk...
you mean "Designated Holiday Celebration Time".
I'm looking for a similar chart showing Obumer's Golf Cart movements.
Maybe ISIS attack on Iraq is not blow-back but preplanned, financed and organized by the US and its allies for a specific reason.
If that is so, then we're all waiting to hear the justification for financing and spreading terror after all the US and Iraqi blood that was spilled fighting these parties.
Teach them not to sign that SOFA!
The Institute for the Study of War ARE the neocon Yalies that are running this Op! Definitely keep on eye on their 'analysis' for clues on what comes next. Ukraine is part of the Benghazi/Syria/ISIS/ISIL Op though they dont appear to be connected. Ukraine rubblization shuts off Russian gas to EU while ISIS supplies Middle East gas to EU. BRILLIANT! It takes a long time to plan an Op like this, it must have started under Hillary at the latest.
ISW = Founded by Kimberly KAGAN
- Leading analystists for ISIS/ISIL activities
The Brookings Institution = Senior Fellow Robert KAGAN
- The FIRST American think tank
- Check out their donor list! http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Brookings_Institution
Project for the New American Century (PNAC) = Founded by Robert KAGAN
- Engineered the WMD pretext for invading Iraq
- http://web.archive.org/web/20130311230455/http://www.newamericancentury....
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
State Department = Hillary Clinton, Victoria Nuland (Married to Robert Kagan), John Heinz Kerry
- Engineered the Maidan Ukraine destabilization
Foerign Policy Institute - Robert KAGAN, William Kristoll, Ellen Bork
- http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/node/77
- Robert Kagan and Ellen Bork Sign Open Letter to President Obama - http://www.foreignpolicyi.org/content/fpis-robert-kagan-and-ellen-bork-s...
American Enterprise Institute = Board of Trustee Dick Cheney, scholars Frederick KAGAN & William Kristol
- http://www.aei.org/scholar/frederick-w-kagan/
- What to do in Iraq? By Frederick Kagan and William Kristoll http://www.aei.org/article/foreign-and-defense-policy/regional/middle-ea...
Frederick Kagan - Yale
Robert Kagan - BA in history from Yale
Victoria Nuland - daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, whose original surname was Nudelman
Kimberly Kagan - Ph.D. in History from Yale
Dick Cheney - Yale
Hillary Clinton - Yale
John Heinz Kerry - Yale University class of 1966
Ellen Bork - Yale (Daughter of Robert Bork)
Do you see any patterns emerging here?
Damn. Thanks for the list.
That's pretty screwed up.
Not as compelling a pattern until you add:
1. Sen. John F Kerry, USSOS = Yale, Skull & Bones.
2. Pres. GW Bush (Jr) = Yale, Skull & Bones. Gets PDB (Presidential Daily Briefing), same copy as presiding POTUS (Obama)
3. Pres. GHW Bush (Sr) = Yale, Skull & Bones. Gets PDB (Presidential Daily Briefing), same copy as presiding POTUS (Clinton, Bush, Obama)
4. The Bush family and the Saudis go back DECADES. Best of pals with King of Jordan too, whose wife Noor is... American born (DC) and educated (Princeton).
5. Remember that the Bin Ladens were the only ones in the US, who were allowed to fly on the 3 days after 9/11? Remember Bandar Bush?
6. Oil = Petrodollars, and USD = funding for Everything the Globalists/Neocons/Zionists NWO want or need. And why "Oil is thicker than blood".
If you see things as they are, rather than as you wish them to be, do you see the old spider at the center of it all? The spider who ran the DEA in Miami, before running the CIA? The same spider who put Rumsfeld and Cheney into positions of power in the first place? Remember "W" spending almost as much time at home (with Dad) as he spent at the WH?
The Kagans and Hillary are just the visible part of the Iceberg. They're the Next Generation, the New Kids on The Block. Of a very old Block.
Here is a great account of what youve added: "Family of Secrets" http://amzn.com/1608190064
Much has been said about the demise of American manufacturing, but we still make the best terrorists money can buy.
Yep. And it's not blowback. It's all part of the plan.
Onward into Wonderland we go Alice............
Ha--took too much time to write a response. What you said.
I don't think this is all according to plan. Iraq was not going according to plan so the MIC hit the reset. Again. Syria should have fallen by now. Remember: a month after 9/11 Wesley Clark learned of plans to take down seven nations in five years. TPTB are WAY behind schedule. Can you hear the engine knocking?
C haos I n A sia ..on Putin's southern flank plan
McMolotov:
Our British cousins seems to have had more finesse in the divide et impera business when they ran the planet than do the current rulers
Do you know WHY? Because these skills of underhandedness, deception and subterfuge are inherent skill in Aristocrats, Nobility and Bankers.
It has been perfected over many centuries, and passed from parent to child, from one generation to the next.
If you compare that to even the most "educated" of Americans, you typically get the "Me-centric" worldview: "Me, me, me, me, me! Narcissistic me. I'll make a bunch, and spend it all on me. And my last check will bounce." ZERO trans-generational wealth planning in the rabble that are the Commoners of the US.
And then you wonder why the rich & powerful stay that way. And why they want to make the Public comfortably numb and dumb, and why they want to to destroy Public Education. And why they want to reduce everything to Fundamentalism -- in the ME, Africa, the EU and US. Feudal masters and Overlords want their Sheeple meek, dumb and under-educated. Alas, too many are all too happy to oblige.
One Word. Spetznaz.
I don't get the "blowback" part of the US having trained these guys. Are they not slaughtering Syrians? Are they not slaughtering Shi'ites in Iraq, potentially drawing Iran into the bloodbath? Are they not threatening Iraq's oil export potential, keeping those resources effectively in storage for recovery later, and keeping prices high? Isn't all this violence contributing to general stress and pressure on China, Russia, Iran and the EU?
"Evil," yes. "Brutal," yes. But "blowback?" Seems like things are staying very much to plan.
If China, Russia and Iran were under stress would they not just start dumping the dollar ? They are not so this is all part of the plan for all parties.
TPTB don't want oil this high. Past a point, high oil prices hurt profits and lead to supply and civil disruptions.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on your conclusions.
I think they love the supply and civil disturbances bit.
It's...almost....like they planned it that way?
Daily double
The ISIS was ALLOWED to march into Iraq by Obama's military. They control the air and it is fucking desert so it is pretty hard to move without being spotted from above....
By not doing anything, either fowarding intelligence to the Iraq's to prepare ambushes, blow up roads to slow the advance or do it themselves they implicitly ALLOWED the ISIS to march on a supposed ally without providing some support to them.
This wasn't blowback if was ALLOWED to happen with no resistance to the move. They most certainly could have done something to slow their movement or hinder it long enough for the Iraqi military to do something before they got as far as they did.
Nothing is what it seems about the whole 'ISIS in Iraq' deceptiion.
The media's first, loudest and most consistent lies are - like clockwork - the best tell.
ISIS numbers? Best guesses were about five or six thousand left western Syria for Iraq. That leaves a thousand or two to hold all ISIS territory in Syria. This is the territory that the FSA and JAN are fighting for - the Syrian oilfields. Now does it make any sense for ISIS to leave their cash cow (oil sales to Assad or smuggled to Turkey) left in the hands of maybe a thousand fighters in Syria when the JAN head-choppers and FSA very much want that same prize right now?
Then consider how it is even physically possible for a few thousand ISIS guys in pickup trucks to 'take over' all these dozens of Iraqi cities and loot the banks. Mosul is over a half-million, itself. This is just stupid-improbable. This is all a bad ruse to explain a planned infusion of cash and arms to the Syrian opposition before the serious Russian gear gets to Assad this fall.
Iran? They made some token offer to 'help' al-Maliki, but they recognize him for the genocidal butcher that he is. Shiites felt opressed when Saddam was in power, so Malaki (a Shiite) has been running a payback ethnic cleansing campaign since the CIA 'approved' his presidency. Even when the U.S. was still on the ground, Malaki was busy butchering Sunnis he didn't like in his torture chambers. He steals a huge chunk of most of the U.S. reconstruction aid, and takes millions from Iraqi oil sales. In other words, the U.S. just created and enables a Saddam II for the unfortunate Iraqis. The Iranian government even hates him. His only connection with Iran was associating with the low-life militant Shiite jihadists in Iran a decade ago. Of course, that fact doesn't make the news. CNN is sure all of Iran supports al-Maliki because... well, he's Shiite and so is Iran! (Any excuse to bomb and invade Iran, of course).
Not sure how this will play out, but I'm guessing this has a lot more to do with the U.S. - with plenty of plausable deniability - arming ISIS/JAN/FSA to the teeth with guns, heavy artillery and undoubtedly a few MANPADS. Watch the fake surprise when ISIS starts taking down Syrian helecopters. Yes, of course ISIS is going back to Syria. This isn't anything but a huge Iraqi arms-looting spree (thanks, U.S. taxpayers!). The fake ISIS 'troops' are just the delivery boys. The Iraqi soldiers certianly seem to understand their part in this charade. I'm sure all the Iraqi arms warehouses taken over were bursting at the seams with tons of new U.S. arms.
ISIS now has maybe a half-dozen huge ISF ammunition depots, several anti-aircraft batteries and scores of artillery sites. They don't seem too interested in armor. There is no border between Syria and Iraq anymore, so I would expect ISIS convoys of U.S.-supplied weaponry, ammuniton and explosives to be streaming back into Syria. You can already see vids of ISIS, i.e,, Blackwater - Xe Services - Academi, execution gangs killing Iraqi soldiers with newly-looted M16s. God bless America!
Iran is nothing but a convenient Wal*mart for Saudi Arabia and Qatar to get arms to Syria. Jordan and Turkey have outlived their usefulness.
It's the Saudi's doing the blowing back after America failed to follow through on the chemical weapons propoganda and go all in to Syria. Obama pissed them off - backed down from the agreed on plan - so now all that build up to overthrow Syria has to flow somewhere. Oh yeah, Iraq is America's darling in the region - let's turn em lose there... Even if they don't win it will/is sure as hell hurting the administration politically. Saudi's are pissed.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg, and owlet's wing,—
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
These reports about US training of Al-Qaeda terrorists in Jordan and Turkey simply confirm what I have posted on here for two years. It has been an open secret that the USA and NATO are engaged in arming, funding and training all forms of Jihadists in the hope to use them against Syria. Since the border between Syria and Ira is open and both share Sunni populations, then ISIS is free to take US trained terrorists funded by US tax payer money and funnel them into Iraq to conquer a terrorist kingdom.
CNN and FOX refuse to publish this information that is commonly known and has been for over two years. The American media has blacked out the CIA's role in funding and training terrorists. Or the CIA use of Libya as a store of arms and trained Jihadists. Jordan and Turkey, one a NATO member have housed traing camps run by NATO special forces all engaged in arming and training terrorists from the EU, Biritain and Libya. Yes, over 2,000 EU passport holders are members of Al-Qaeda and ISIS. The numbers may be even higher. Britain may have over 1,000 British citizens engaged as members of Al-Qaeda and ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Presssed by these reoprts, the EU and British governments say they are concerned, but have done nothing to stop free movement of these Jihadists back and forth to Europe and Syria/Iraq. Immigration has no plan to stop any of these thousands of terrorists from using their EU passports to return home to Europe after fighting for Al-Qaeda or ISIS.
So, you can see that NATO is officially arming, training, funding, transporting and supplying terrorists. All the while CNN qnd FOX report the innocent west are victims of Jihadists! Go figure that one, if you can.
Come on now...the idiot box with the talking head said the terrrists hate us for our freedom, way of life, and all that jazz.
I asked myself, "What would happen if Saudi Arabia were to run out of oil?"
Then I looked around. Oh. Yeah.
This is exactly what is happening. The Saudi oil fields are shagged out. They have to inject tons of seawater now to keep the oil pumping. All of their loans are backed by dwindling oil reserves. Dr. Jim Willie also said the UK and USA stole their gold in London vaults too.
ISIS is also USSA. If they were the bad guys - they would have been droned - six ways to Sunday.
Likely what is going down. Everyone and their brother knows that the Saudi fields are running on fumes. Once water injection begins you can begin counting the days until the field is played out.
And they've been injecting water for years now.
Are you a member of this British Cluster Fuck ? this Empire that's become a comic farce ? You better stand up on your hind legs and do something about it. It's about time to cut off all those passports; and declare the Muslims to be members of an illegal cult; prohibited from engaging in any cult activity in country; tear down the "Mosques" for starters.
David Koresh them. David Koresh them all and let Allah sort them out.
So you are encouraging the murder of children? Hmmmm....
I said that two days ago. I had not proof but I still said it.
Can't wait for the story to break about CIA drones providing aerial recon for ISIS in Iraq...
ISIS = McCain-Obama-Soros boys.
I really hope the Syrain Army destroys that scum with Iran also attacking.
Wnd also posted about sandy hook bogus shooting. I am so tired of frigging theatre....I want off the Truman Show!
Krugmans a skxawng! Moron in Na'vi...
(edit: 1406180706 - well, there are at least 4 liberalistas here on ZH that showing their usual backbone, hide their faces while subverting the truth. Defend your man, you weeneies ;-)
Well, killing is not the solution to win a war. Wounding seriously is better way to do it.
That will take more energy from your enemy and time.
Wounding slows down the enemy killing always stops them.
The wounding of the enemy also requires that they give a shit whether or not they leave anyone behind.
Wasn't that the Viet Cong strategy? What w/ the tiger pits and bamboo booby traps?
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Takeaway lesson: never fucking surrender!
Second amendment, unwritten constitution of ME and AFPAK
Did you hear that Miley and Britney are in a feud?
Now we're talking Daddy'O. There's some news that Americans are concerned about. I'll bet that will be THE smokin' topic for the Twittersphere and facebook folks.
"Are you not entertained?"
(Never really gets old.)
What, the line from the movie or the timeless arena of bread and circuses?
Both, I guess.
"Game time over. Time for the real thing."
Comprehensive detailed daily summary here: (sorry if I miss anyone's earlier post): http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com
Syria's Air Force is supposedly attacking the ISIS Saudi-NWO scum.
http://www.syrianperspective.com/
Anymore news on that?
More boots in the ground.
That country needs massive dozes of estrogen in its water supply and a giant airlift of marijuana.
What else you gonna do? More of the same??
How about the First Russian Paratroop Army, and two commandos of Spetznaz ? Make a clean and tidy Iraq in short time.
Just like Chechnya?
You are another Jarhead dying for ZATO, Kosher Hollywood-TV, Obama and the Pentagon
'reinforcements were supplied using aerial assets'
What the hell is an aerial asset, are we talking US helicopters?
<-- let them kill one another = good riddance
That picture is horrific.
You notice immediately that the analysis is made to help Team Caliphate...
btw this fake/proxy Jihad stuff isn't new...a pipe dream of the Ottoman Empire (The Caliphate) and the German Kaiser had it declared on the outset of WW1...other than some people printing pamphlets in the Indian Raj, it didn't get that far.
Enter Lawrence of Arabia, on the other hand...
My visceral response to that photo of the executions was that I wished I was a Jedi Knight. I could step into the frame. And put a stop to that nonsense.
EDIT: I'd start with the line: "These little ones aren't worth bothering with. Come, let me get you something"... and work my way up from there as needed.
If you were a Jedi, you'd cut the head from the snake. Then you wouldn't have to save the little ones.
You're right. With my method you'd really want to be Superman.
I'm waiting for the volunteers to go and fight: Dick Cheney, Tony Blair, JP Balkenende, and a couple of others....
I don't care which side, as long as they go now.
There has to be at least one Bush in the that crew....
Careful now! The Bush family is being rehabilitated to so they may get Jeb appointed to be OEL (Our Exalted Leader).
Bitches like you, Flak FRAU, are just like that Bush (who I detest because of his dishonesty).
But you are not honest at all.
You are so dishonest. You are just like a BUSH, that means both a cunt and a former President, FlakFRAU.
I do not even know how you look at yourself in a mirror, FlakFRAU. A woman with no conscience...pretending to be agahst at the atrocities in Iraq?
Living a lie, FlakFRAU, is pretty psychopathic...(Good oxymoron.) Hell...George W. Bush was a professional at living a lie. You missed your calling. Maybe you might have been a POLITICIAN.
I cannot respect someone who despises herself for being a woman.
And I am the motherfucker on this board who will be pointing this out...the Truth...for all to read.
Pfthppt?!
ISIS going for the brass ring - Baghdad International Airport and the US Embassy. Barry should order the evacuation from the Embassy NOW before the area is turned into Stinger Alley. Also, why isn't Dick Cheney and Paul Bremer giving free guided tours of the New and Improved Iraq?....
This appears to be a sort of reverse Syria ... in Syria you had an initial legit and homegrown series of protests that were violently repressed, and a small number of Syrians took up arms.
That of course, was piggybacked on by outside jihadis, sua sponte, and then with US/Saudi/Turkish help ][and apparently some Israeli weapons and some helpful bombings].
Now, the Syrian opposition is foreign and far worse than Assad.
In Iraq, the native jihadis, egged on by the US/Israel, are being joined by well armed Iraqis who are simply tired of their US puppet government.
That is, an illegitimate, mostly foreign and foreign backed rebellion may actually grow more native, and more legitimate.
ISIS and its embedded CIA and Mossad agents may well en up losing control of this situation.
In fact, I predict they will.
SMERRRRRRRRRRSH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vE1DJ_DNAc
They figured out many ways to blow up the Merkava tank.
I hope Iran and Syria plus the Iraqis - F - up those ISIS ZATO animals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7s5lnjXR5s
Well said. Thank you!
Those dudes better watch out, cuz potus may do a golf by on their arses ...
Boy, I never saw this coming. I doubt our porous border will lead to anything negative either.
Nobody could have anticitipated this.
What could go wrong ?
What difference does it make?
Iraq's disintegration, and Syria's was all part of the plan.
Oded Yinon and PNAC's plan...
It was a BAD plan then...
Depends on your perspective, or Obama's objective.
Destroying America with Open-Borders is designed to destroy America.
Where is the Ace Tomato Company when you need it?
Anyone else notice that ISIS is making the world know the men they're shooting are wearing civilian clothes over their uniforms? One of the vids showed ISIS pulling down civilian pants covering fatigues.
I think that's an important detail. It constitutes an act of war as opposed to a genocide. Since ISIS are not bound by any national jurisdiction, nobody could argue they're in breach of the Geneva convention that describes how to deal with prisoners of war.
Key is if and when ISIS arrives in the capitol, how successful their strategy will be. If they take Bagdad in a few weeks, the current Iraqi regime never had enough support to sustain their control. I think that's a big part of this problem.
The Sunni's don't appear to be wearing uniforms at all...
OK so they are not in violation of the Geneva convention - they are still murdering pieces of shit.
I am sure those men on theirs knees being shot in the back are thinking 'what about the Geneva convention guys?'.
Lock and load ISF.
Thousands of soldiers were lined up and shot during WW2. No questions asked then, no videos either. Some photos maybe.
ISIS has declared war on the current Iraq regime which is another US puppet regime fyi. The US trained ISIS to fight Assad that much we know. Why ISIS has supposedly changed sides and is now attacking a US ally remains a big question mark.
With so many ISF deflecting against what appears to be a small rag tag rebel army, the whole process is in question. Didn't we train ISF as well?
.."Geneva convention"...
Wow. You are really going to bring up the fucking Geneva convention to this crew....or any fucking country in this day and age, for that matter?
This is a red fucking tide. And a fucking piece of paper isn't going to change that. At all.
Why are ISIS soldiers making a point of documenting that the men they're shooting are soldiers disguised as civilians? Maybe they don't know squat about the Geneva Convention, maybe they do. But they are sending the message that they're not just killing civilians. Why?
Because it looks cool on Tee Vee, that's why.
May as well ask Kim Kardashian why she bleaches her asshole.
Such a fail situation report.
It should look more like this.
http://postimg.org/image/tawkewdal/
Hell if it looked like the way I suggested, it wouldn't even be a situation report, it would be a "victory report".
victory doesn't look good, but its easy.
Yes, it leaves no doubt and is quite final. less messy in the long run.
How is Britain reacting to the terrorist threat in Iraq? Let's ask the Daily Mail Online shall we?
"More British citizens signed up to fight in Iraq and Syria than joined the Army Reserve last year, it can be revealed.
Just 170 extra reservists enlisted over the past year - despite a Government target to boost the stand-by force by 11,000 by 2018.
But at the same time the brutal al-Qaeda inspired ISIS forces tearing through Iraq have been boosted by 'several hundred' Brits, ministers told MailOnline."
There you have it!Where's Guy Fawkes when you need him?
Well remember, Jack, that if you don't agree, as a European, to allow in a large number of immigrants from vastly different ethnic and cultural and religious groups - sufficient to make your own people a minority in your own homeland within a few generations, you are a "racist."
And there's absolutely nothing worse than being a "racist"...
Is that anything like being a racer? Is a Formula One fan a racist?
Well, the Brits can be a tricky bunch when they get in the sand.
Or just about anywhere for that matter. We learned from the best.
http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1556
Should have shot every single fucking one and sent them home to mama with a hunk of goat cheese wrapped in a Union Jack jammed up their assholes.
Southern Iraq, from Baghdad down
is predominately Shiite, the majority population of Iraq.
The reportedly slender ISIS forces (US& Saudi-backed Sunnis) are not strong enough to conquer southern Iraq,
particularly since they appear to be engaged in a foolish religious war of extermination making all Shiites their "enemy",
and also because strong Iranian (Shiite) military forces will be sent to stop them advancing.
Expect the situation to "stabilize" albeit with protracted conflict (as in Syria) enabled with US& Saudi funding and facilitation.
Why would anyone want it to stabilize? How does it get any better than "extremist" muslims killing each other in large numbers? Of course "extremist" refers to all of those scum who have not gotten to - separation of chuirch and statre, and "freedom of religion." Which almost all of them!!!!!!!!!!!!! do you hear any US based muslims cry out against extremists - no - so let them get the same treatment.
The amount of dumb in your post is nearly infinite.
I guess 'kill em all and let god sort it out' is the plan for all sides.
I'm glad I don't live in Iraq or Syria or Iran or Jordan or Israel or Ukraine or ....shit the USA is getting worse every day but compared to the rest of the world it seems like a socialist paradise...let's just hope the dollar stays strong.....another rweek or so at least...
that picture reminds me of liberals fleeing NYC for the Hamptons.
Thank you John McCain !!! Thanks for being a war monger and wasting my tax dollars !!!
do you mind if we play through?
MH370 is flying straight into the Baghdad embassy. I'd put currency on it.
Considering that the 400,000 strong Iraqi army was completely disbanded in 2003 (leaving a few idle hands) with the fact that the civilized democratic nations of the world currently have an insatiable need to export weapons of freedom, this civil war (civil as in citizens as opposed to courteous & polite) may last for quite a stretch.
Bremer did a fine job with that little act back in 2003 didn't he? Nothing like making a 400,000 military permanent enemies with a 'little' pension destruction thrown into the mix just for a little added inflammatory actions.
Anglo/American export. As a human that shares this planet with others, we are worst than scum. And we call human's civilized. The West seems to think it is, but from all these exports the frigging dump sheep in the Western populous still thinks towel heads are doing this. I'm afraid not. These killers are just the hands and feet of the Western cabal criminals. Train and funded no other than by the Western allies and namely via Langley and its narco funds. Nothing but destruction from these evil doers.
Still waiting for a Jeffersonian Democracy to rise from the ashes?
a mid east civil war between the sunnis and the she-ites is exactly what the doctor ordered.
thins the herd nicely.
remember the hutus and tutsis in africa? UN chose one side managed by a useless Canadian and the french the other.
millions were slaughtered. problem solved.
sad how they do things.
Support the Oligarchs' Troops!
Which ones...the contractors guarding the Green Zone...or the ones in blackface and Pakistani pantaloons ?
Oh, we can bet the Exacta?
Awesome.
The IRS has conveniently made that support automatic through payroll deduction.
Absolutely. Let round up Psaki, Kagan, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Bremer, Nuland, BiggyZ, the Bushes, the Clintons, the Obamas==suit 'em up and ship 'em out under the high command ot the Cheney bunch.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/17/opinion/al-qaeda-maliki-assad/index.html
I know we need a "SURGE"
Note: Civil Wars are never, ever resolved when it's part of a larger proxy (quasi) war. Outside forces taking up sides protract a conflict where both sides of the indigenous population suffer.
Most always when both sides fight with no external interference, there's always a truce, but, the bloodshed always stops when both sides realize in the end, that they are tearing apart the very fabric they're trying to preserve.
Always, detente prevails-- at least in most cases!
A perfect example was the US Civil War?!?
jmo thankyou Tyler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aysmmetric_warfare
The Revolutionary War was a civil war.
And thank God for the proxy Frog help. Wish it'd come sooner...
Sooner or later, the oligarchs and politicians who brought "democracy" to the rest of the world, will bring it to us/you/me.
Hell...everybody knows this...even Will from Red Jacket "visited" Jordan on a secret mission involving arming fighters...non-Jordanian fighters
Just have the Narcissist Jism in Chief go speak softly to them and maybe a blow job here and there. That should be all better and fix-n-stuff.
"Shot'em in the back!" Uncle Fester
Isn't that the (Kimberly) Kagan outfit. From Robert Kagan who wrote the original PNAC document. Propaganda alert. neo con guys/girls
Its painfully obvious there's a lot more going on than what's on the surface. Once you start looking at the details, the narrative of angry sunnis out for shia blood falls apart. Of course there's a huge sectarian dimension. I just read a piece on the guardian about how the Iraqi officers and soldiers were ordered to abondon their posts. Those peshmerga certainly were quick on the scene too. What's up with the american and Pakistani uniforms? All masked? Check out the number of European born and/or raised guys in there. Apparently hundreds.. Isis is not that big.
Someone is trying to incite sectarian war. Or someone is trying to use the world's fear of it to get something else accomplished. I have no idea who or what..possibly carving up Iraq in a Sunni, Kurdish and Shi'a sector? Don't forget Iraq as a country is a French/British invention. Also note how this situation puts american weapons and hardware in the hands of groups that normally would never get them.
Whoever is plotting here..I don't think its the US. They come off as the fools who sunk billions and billions into a war and a reconstruction that came undone in weeks. I think its a local conspiracy. Every one of Iraq's neighbours stands to gain from this. Especially if you consider the goal isnt to conquer Iraq but to carve it up.
Just think money,specifically petrodollars and it makes sense.
Maliki was in Peking with Vlad last month.I don't think they were discussing
Chinese cuisine.
Bad things happen to countries that do business with China.
Ukraine first, then Iraq today, next the UK ?
Definitely an angle for Russia but Maliki looks caught by surprise and on his way out. US, Iran and even his own party members seem to agree on that.
They have to fight to the death now...even if they retreat, recreate a Baathist regime the USA isn't going to put their Dawlah dogs back on the leash.
By now the ideological "value" of the puppet caliphate outweighs even the benefits of the socalled petrodollar system.
The US has thrown its lot with them...all financial, let alone traditional political considerations have been lost already.
Hhm.. Let's first see Isis make it past baqubah then. Also..why not go after the Kurds. They're sitting on major oil fields now.
Also..Baathist remnants have thrown in with Isis apparently.
For the us this is a dumb move because they're empowering Iran as.the power broker in the region. Look up this general suleimani character. Iran is being handed Iraq on a silver platter here.
But hey..if you want to believe that this was all dreamt up by some neocon think thanks...meh. Neocons have been wrong about everything..what makes you think they have any grasp of the middle.east and it's politics?
Also..where does the US benefit from people abandoning petrodollars? The one thing that gives the dollar world reserve status atm...its good for everybody else..the us and its citizens? Not so much.
Sorry to burst your bubble about US innocence abroad
US plotting
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-destruction-and-political-fragmentation...
Managing Chaos
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/17/is-open-ended-chaos-the-desired-u...
Why the Sunnis deservedly hate US puppet Maliki
http://www.globalresearch.ca/iraq-fighting-terrorism-or-political-opposi...
I'm well aware of what the US is doing globally and in the middle east. I'm not talking about the long term but day tot day events..that's not being driven by the us,west or israel I think. I'm definitely not blind that we have gotten here because of the US Middle east policy but I don't they're in control of what's going on now.
I'm much more interested in what Iran is doing. No bubble here..just trying to follow the chessgame and trying figure out possible plays. I just don't blame the US for everything..or rather I don't overestimate their power and influence in creating these events.
Global research is maybe not the most credible source though.
do tell what, to your satisfaction,
is the most credible source
Don't reply to the points made in the refernced articles,
just make unsubstantiated accusations about not being "credible" for you.
Don't respond to the points in my post but expect me to engage in debate about some crackpot article...just because you post a link.
Fuck sources. Use reason.
I'll make all the unsubstantiated accusations I want. Its an online comment section..what do you expect?
If you actually read my post you noticed it was more framed as a question than anything else. Pointing out strange things I noticed in reading up on the situation. But youre more interested in blaming the US and I am not. I'm trying to understand it and will readily admit that I don't. It's not for lack of knowledge though. You're happy to assume that but that's cool too.
If you actually had read the articles I referenced instead of dismissing them without even looking,
you might have discovered they were referenced as answers to your questions.
Apparently though, your questions were only rhetorical, inasmuch as you appear to already
have made up your mind about what the answers must be , and what sources may be dismissed without
examination as"not credible" because you suspect they might blame the US and you don't want to..
No point my further arguing with that.
Now insert a mid eastern mic type general to manage the chaos.
Considering that ISIS got help (esp money and weapons) from Saudi Arabia and most likely Turkey (which most likely includes NATO) too and that they're considered allies in the fight against Assad, I can rarely think of an alliance of the US with Syria/Iran against these terrorists. Placing drones in the neighbourhood of Syria and Iran, allegedly to be used against ISIS, I can't help it but to think of it as a big lie. In my opinion Syria and Iran as well should be very cautious about this suspicious help from this uber-hegemon.