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Ukraine-Russia Near "Serious Conflict" Following Explosion In Largest European Gas Transit Pipeline
With 2 Russian TV journalists killed in recent days and on the heels of Russia's cutting off Ukraine's gas supply for non-payment, Interfax is reporting that:
- *EXPLOSION ON UKRAINE GAS TRANSIT PIPELINE REPORTED: IFX
- *INTERFAX CITES UKRAINE INTERIOR MINISTRY ON GAS PIPELINE BLAST
Witnesses say flames are reaching 200 metres high. Gazprom shares are tumbling on the news (as should European stocks) and Russia's Foreign Affairs Committee Chief Aleksei Pushkov warned relations between Ukraine and Russia have entered a new stage and are "moving closer towards a serious conflict."
An explosion has struck a pipeline in the eastern Ukrainian Poltava region. Witnesses say flames from the blast are up to 200 meter high, RIA Novosti reports.
The “Brotherhood” natural gas pipeline (Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod) is about one kilometer away from the nearest settlement. No injuries have been reported from the blast. Fire fighting crews have been deployed to the scene.
Operating since 1967, the “Brotherhood” is the largest consumer gas pipeline in Europe, clocking in at 4,451 km. It cuts through Ukraine and runs into Slovakia, where it diverges in two directions; with one part supplying gas to the Czech Republic, Germany, France and Switzerland, and the other to Austria, Italy, Hungary and several countries in the Balkans.
Pipeline faucets are being tuned off as fire fighters still can’t put out the flame.
As Bloomberg reports,
Relations between Russia and Ukraine have entered a new stage and are "moving closer towards a serious conflict", said State Duma Foreign Affairs Committee chief Aleksei Pushkov.
Russia did not recognise unilateral border demarcation by Ukraine which was "contrary to all norms of international law", Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency quoted Pushkov as saying Tuesday.
"An attack on the Russian embassy, an attempted attack on the consulate-general in Odessa, insults to the Russian president, regular arrests of Russian journalists -- I think this is a deliberate decision co-ordinated with the U.S -- all these are links of one chain," he said.
We are sure the explosion/fire on the pipeline will further this sentiment.
Update:
- *UKRAINE MINISTRY: FIRE BROKE OUT ON GAS PIPLINE, NO EXPLOSION
- *UKRAINE MINISTRY SAYS INVESTIGATING CAUSE OF GAS PIPELINE FIRE
Coincidental "fire"?
In the #Poltava region #Ukraine explosion on a gas pipeline Urengoy-Uzhgorod-Pomary pic.twitter.com/aURhFAU4dj
— ??????? ?????? (@buritomexican0) June 17, 2014
And the purported video of the pipeline..
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H-T, you don't know how right you are. THe Ukrainian military has a large number of fresh conscripts who are actually being fed by their fellow countrymen whom they are supposed to shoot! The vast majority of them (according to my Ukrainian mother-in-law) are only too ready to join their brothers on the Russian side, and are more afraid of being shot by their officers than they are of the Russians.
One thing that gives me pause is the lengths the NATO-tards are willing to go to in the name of the NWO, Chevron, and Archer-Daniels-Midland. But more than that, I am fearful for the thousands of innocent folks (both civilian and military) who will die because of the greed of the west. That we might be facing a cold winter in Germany is not a big concern in comparison.
Stay well!
A cold winter in Germany with no gas for heat could kill tens or hundreds of thousands of innocents. I don't think most of them even have a place to burn the furniture to keep warm anymore.
See, this is what I have been hearing as well.
We all remember the ZH articles from a few months ago, where they were recruiting people right out of Maiden and handing them weapons almost immediately. Their Navy was completely absorbed into the Russian navy, and with Russia no longer supporting Ukranian aircraft, they will go the way of the F16s in Iran. Those in the Ukranian military at the time of the Coup, who had a head on their shoulders saw who their leaders now are, and decided the Russians were probably a better play. Can't blame them. I would do the same thing.
Living in Germany -- I don't worry about freezing this winter. If I lived in Poland, Czech Repulic or anything South of there -- I'd be a tad worried.
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I would gladly sell you into white slavery if there was a market for fat, stupid, illiterate, gay men who enjoy sodomizing themselves with a rake more than thinking critically.
LOL,you could try.
Pull the rake out of your ass first for your glamor shot.
Just remember The Siege of Tobruk krautboy thats all you need to know.
Cause when I pull it out of my arse man I'm gunna shove it down your gob.
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(see I can reply with something completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.)
It's the fight club and you can.
That's why I come to fight club!!
Sweet! (continues munching on popcorn)
You just can't get this kind of entertainment on television.
There is haus, just open up one of those back alley publications floating around Tel Aviv:-)
There are plenty of committed jihadists with western passports fighting for ISIS. And they will bring their skills back "home". Thanks to suicidal-delusional immigration policies that not just green light but invite a steady stream of death cult mind virus infected to breed and hatch among us.
Obama is shooting. He scored a 2 over par on the back nine
Only if he cheats more than Clinton. Have you seen that limp wristed pussy swing a club?
She's been working out.
Golf isn't shooting, and any golfer who says he is "shooting" a "round" of golf is playing at manliness. Golf is for pussies. Sell your fucking pansyass golf clubs, buy a rifle, and learn to shoot for real. Once we were a nation of riflemen, and now we're a nation of effeminate, pussy, useless golfers. Once we could put holes in things from distance (the rifleman's quarter mile) and now we dress up like peacocks and chase a stupid fucking ball around.
Pussies.
Yessiree,
Golf is one of America's biggest problems.
Check.
When we come to the spirit of domestic peace, the humble genius of Virginia has formed a government suitable to the genius of her people. After all your reforms in government, unless you consult the genius of its inhabitants, you will never succeed; your system can have no duration. Let me appeal to the candor of the committee, if the want of money be not the source of all our misfortunes. We cannot be blamed for not making dollars. This want of money cannot be supplied by changes in government. The only possible remedy, as I have before asserted, is industry, aided by economy. Compare the genius of the people with the government of this country. Let me remark, that it stood the severest conflict, during the war, to which ever human virtue has been called. I call upon every gentleman here to declare, whether the king of England had any subjects so attached to his family and government, so loyal, as we were? But the genius of Virginia called on us for liberty — called us from those beloved endearments, which, from long habits, we were taught to love and revere. We entertained, from our earliest infancy, the most sincere regard and reverence for the mother country. Our partiality extended to a predilection for her customs, habits, manners, and laws. Thus inclined, when the deprivation of our liberty was attempted, what did we do? What did the genius of Virginia tell us?
Sell all, and purchase liberty! —
- Patrick Henry, 9 June 1788, at the Virginia Ratification Debates
That reminds me...
The club called this morning asking about moving our tee-time up 15 minutes this weekend SWR, told tell you wouldn't mind.
Had to log in just to upvote SWRichmond
Rest assured Mr Richmond! Mongo knows that there are still a whole hell of alot of the former out here. Mongo's only use for golf/tennis balls is for his 95lb German Shepard to chase around the acreage!
Hedge accordingly
Nah, the plebs would rather spend a shit load of money on memberships, fees etc while all those courses eat up thousands of gallons of water daily keeping things green.
and that's why I like Appleseed events
guns are for pussies.
sell your guns, and learn how to fight... some boxing, some wrestling, and a lot of jiu jitsu.
then, and only then, proceed to Gung Fu... Wing Chun...
...fuckin' guns talk around here. lol.
Guns are tools. Boxing is a tool. Grappling is a tool. A man needs to learn to be proficient in the use of tools like these for the defense of his family and himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE
Hey, it's Tuesday. Don't fuck up the rally with wars and shit.
Haven't you heard? Destruction is good for the economy.
/sarc..
Your not paying attention. War is not good generally. War with ALIEN INVADERS is good. So says the Nobel Laureate.
Preparing for war is good for the economy, but actually going to war is bad. Therefore, everyone should keep training and building ships and tanks and researching new war technology, but should never actually use it.
The problem with this idea is that a tremendous amount of energy is wasted making the hardware, energy that could be used for practically anything else and it would be more useful.
When you can plow a field with an M1 Abrahams I will agree that building shiny war toys is good for the economy. Until then, it is just a bunch of expensive shit sitting around losing value.
You can't make (most) war tools into economic tools.
There is only one end result from all of this- Worldwide Monetary Reset.
We're on a one way road to hell.
In the mean time just BTFATH!
Nice work victoria noodleman kagan. The slaughter you worked so hard for is almost upon us.
Vicky's sent her Florence Nightingale outfit out to the cleaners to get it pressed so she can help the wounded.
It will be good for her friends and family, I suspect...
Could things get anymore Fucked up in the World. I mean seriously, I'm at a loss of words lately.
Give it a couple of days.
Wait, for it to get worse, or for him to find the words?
Yes.
The world has simply stubbed its toe while on the way to getting decapitated.
I see escalation! and not just in gas prices!
Hmmm...nothing to see here people; buy NFLX and AAPL, sell gold.
Definitely sell gold. It's barbarous.
Blackwater
Thank you, CIA
Go Fuck yourself Criminal CIA.
I see the words are coming back...
Sh*t doesn't happen anymore - it gets planned and executed.
True. Especially wars. They take a huge amount of planning, personel, materials and coordination.
Something 'seems a bit off' about this whole ISIS thing though. Something tells me Iraq was not following orders from above before this all went down.
Not sure it matters anymore as all of this has gotten so twisted up in itself. It's all just a big fuckin hairball now.
"Something 'seems a bit off' about this whole ISIS thing though"
Well, Axis of Evil Mk2 tried to get WWIII started in Syria. The nay vote in the UK parliament really spoiled that party. And the chemical weapons coming through Turkey were not a good look for the White House.
The Ukraine operation is "ongoing". But Putin seems determined to take no nonsense, so Operation Easy-Peasy (Nuland's choice) might not work. Might.
As Celente says, when all else fails, they take you to war. Operation "Iraqi Freedom No Seriously We Mean It This Time" is underway to that effect.
i think the step behind the world cup will be definitivly rewarded by multiples oscar due to the mass massacre pending.
gonna ask hand gun to santa claus, 2015 gonna be tricky year.
You think Europe which gets a good chunk of it's winter heat through those pipelines is starting to get more than nervous...talk about a country being caught in the middle...I really liked Russia's "don't you dare siphon Europe's gas" threat to the Ukranians...that will work when the thermometer hits 4 degrees...and a public relations nightmare for Russia to turn it off at that point...better to do it now.
+1 for the PR thought. there is a political side to the whole thing that is often neglected. it's the "frontier towards Russia" that is more dependent on Russian gas. meaning all previous Soviet Satellites. which are actually the countries which Russia wants to charm most
Europe isn't caught in the middle. Ukraine is. The russkies shut off the gas to Ukraine first.
Just wait, Europe is next.
LOL Russia has little to worry about......They will shut the gas off next month before the cold sets in in October....give time for the EU to think and the Ukraine next week if they dont pay off some of thier hefty bills-when people see that the USA is behind all this, a shitstorm will arise.....And Putin can larf all the way to the Banque
The Nobel Prize Winner's $5 billion investment and numerous mercenaries in the Ukraine are finally paying off.
Don't forget the Criminal CIA trained Nationalist Fascist Nazi's which helped destabilize the region & paved the way toward complete, total upheaval.
Shock Doctine style.
Go long firewood.
I am! : ) Long and about 4.5 ft high.
gazprom down less than half percent. yawn. this is a nothing story. is zh turning into Days of Our Lives for doomers?????
It's not a nothing story, precisely because it eliminates several episodes (about a month or more) of Days of Our Lives for Doomers. These are episodes where "EU" gas gets "mysteriously" removed from the pipeline before it reaches the EU, then neither the EU nor Ukraine is willing to pay for the missing gas, then Russia threatens to cut off the gas (making itself look like the bad guy), meanwhile the slaughter of the successionists continues...
cui bono?
Doubt it. The Germans will be watching both ends like a hawk. The Russians would welcome the scrutiny and I expect that any diverting would be very public.
The thing that baffles me the most is why shut down the pipeline project that skirts Ukraine? That forces the confrontation. I know that is the simple answer but it really doesn't make sense unless you seek all out confrontation. I like to think we are not that stupid but I guess I will be proven wrong.
There already is an all-out confrontation.
The only question is does Russia get dragged in before or after there is no one left to reinforce in the east (and whether NATO gets dragged in at all).
It ain't close to an all out confrontation, yet.
Only from the perspective of someone on the outside.
The Ukey-Nazis are using 120mm artillery against built up and populated areas. Just because the separatists don't have matching hardware doesn't mean they are any less committed or engaged.
The fact that neither the Russians nor the US is overtly engaged is irrelevant, unless the Iran-Iraq War, the Rwandan Genocide and a whole bunch of other atrocious conflicts were also not all out confrontations BETWEEN THE PARTIES to the conflicts.
"I expect that any diverting would be very public."
Call Yulia Tymoshenko
She'll show you how it's done.
was it the nazies or the cossaks?
In all likelihood, Obama.
Guy is overproductive. He was not finished with training the ISIL fighters he was already moving to Ukraine to blow up that pipe.
Who knows what he is going to do next?
fire! fire!
That Biden kid sure gets around.
He's doing God's work.....
They call gazprom -0.5% "tumbling"?
It'll sky-rocket tomorrow...(+0.4%)
We're always "this close" to a major event, but it NEVER happens.
Silly.
Maybe Obomber deserves his peace prick after all, he tries and tries to start wars but keeps failing miserably!
I understand that bear baiting is a very dangerous sport!
All the blame-able parties are in place. The next false flag has its fall guys. The Georgia Guide Stones plotters are good to go. It must have been Toyota driving black clad (in the desert) Al Qaeda ISIL or those Ruskies like in the latest Jack Ryan film with the pretty boy from the new Startrek. Could be those home grown terr groups, lord knows our, I mean their, pointless gun violence is up 300%, that's a lot of home grow'd crazies! Oh yeah and all those people on the internets who say mean and hurtful things. After all we spent billions to record all those mean and hurtful things. It's time for some order in this world, a new order, a New World Order. Und ve vill have Order! Your orders are to: "Shootz zem... shootz zem awl!"
Excuse me do you have any American cigarettes?
ORDO AB CHAO
A Latin expression, meaning Order out of Chaos. A motto of the Thirty-third Degree, and having the same allusion as lug e tenebris, which see in this work. The invention of this motto is to be attributed to the Supreme Council of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish petite at Charleston, and it is first met with in the Patent of Count de Grasse, dated February 1, 1802. When De Grasse afterward carried the polite over to France and established a Supreme Council there, he changed the motto, and, according to Lenning, Ordo ab hoc, Order out of This, was used by him and his Council in all their documents. If so, it was simply a blunder.
- Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry
I am pretty sure when that phrase was first coined, it was about finding chaos and fixing it--Not creating chaos and then trying to fix it. But when you fuk up as bad as the central planners and wannabe leaders in the USA, it makes you feel better to pretend chaos was part of the game plan all along.
The thing about chaos is that it always wins, because chaos is better organized.
The Freemasons?
come on... come on, man... I can't believe how many people are fooled by this look at the Freemasons/Illuminati/Jesuits/Vatican/Lizards shit.
It's the banks, son.
The Freemasons are the banks, dad.
Bodged up illegal tap to divert supplies
Or, foiled plot. If you foil a plot to tap the supply, and if the plotters wished to have the whole thing appear accidental, then you can indeed very easily foil the plot, and the plotters would not be able to pin the foilers for the uh foilage.
the efforts to start a potentially nuclear "exchange of hostillities" is DISGUSTING.
this is not in the interest of our species.
our leaders are monsters and should be thrown off this planet.
"...our leaders are monsters and should be thrown off this planet."
Indulging in some over-the-top optimism, there's this, from yesterday at ZeroHedge:
“In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies..."
Don't let any crisis go to waste....
Sincerely,
The Fucking Full Fucktard Feds
Could someone please tell me who, we the americans, are fighting today???? Assad, sunni rebels, Iran, hezbollah, hamas, Isis, muslim brotherhood, Russia, muslim extremists in the balkans? I'm totally lost here. The only way it makes any sense, is that we are at the same time, at war and providing support to every faction at the same time. Which actually makes perfect sense considering the west works solely for the bankers and Zionists. This shit is getting so surreal, even Orwell would blush.
Just keep it simple. We're fighting everyone, including ourselves.
"Could someone please tell me who, we the americans, are fighting today????"
Our government.... Well they are fighting us. We Americans are just taking it.
And paying for it at the same time.
It's war when your gov't tells you who the enemy is. It's revolution when you figure it out for yourself.
But the NYT says we need a BIG WAR, MOAR WAR. These are just skirmishes. That's the way to get the economy going.
you mean the JYT
"Could someone please tell me who, we the americans, are fighting today????"
We've always been at war with Eastasia
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"Could someone please tell me who, we the americans, are fighting today????"
We've always been at war with Eastasia
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"The only way it makes any sense, is that we are at the same time, at war and providing support to every faction at the same time."
That's right. Strategy of Tension: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy_of_tension
"The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make the rest of us wonder at the possibility that we might be missing something." - Gamal Abdel Nasser
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” — George W. Bush, bill-signing ceremony, August 5, 2004
"Covert action should not be confused with missionary work." -- Henry Kissinger
It is time to connect the Merkel/Hollande methane valve and the Barroso after burner.
Nail on the head as always, WB7.
If there is a true leader in Europe please stand up and tell Obama and handlers to fuck off. Like, now would be a good time? Or sooner, if at all possible. He can carry on with the global self-humiliation thing just fine and dandy all by himself. Doesn't need our help on this side of the pond.
Not holding my breath, because right now Brussels and every sovereign government in Europe is infested with a particularly nasty parasite, commonly known as the spineless, self-serving career politician (CUNT for short), who represent the corporates (payback in kind at a later date, obviously) rather than their electorates. The same corporates who tell the USG how high to jump.
Its a bit like having the ruling class of 476 AD fiddling away while their empire implodes, only this time it will take a few years rather than a few centuries to achieve rock bottom.
Russia is sitting pretty with the Iraq war raising oil prices....who needs the Ukraine when oil hits $150 a barrel....
NATO needs it. For the *cough* bases ... I mean, for the children!
The higher it goes, the stronger our enemies get (Saudi, Iran, Syria, Russia, China, UAE, North Dakota).
I'm led to believe year ago, people volunteered to fight in WW2, now people won't even walk to the local shop, or get a bus to work to deprive our towel headed friends of the money they need to damage our interests (and supress the average joe in their own country).
Who runs barter town?
Vlad^
Vladster Bladster
Now that was Halarious & Creative. +1,000.
I concur.
Right now just a few homesteaders... I mean tairorrrristas. There has been no consolidation. Most barter towns are trying to remain free of the Matrix.
cluborlovblogspot Dmitry Orlov has some knowledge about that...
He comes down hard on present Ukraine happenings
His first book "Reinventing Collapse" can help you answer your Q.
I'm sure the Fourth Turning crowd will have something to say about this...
they usually keep that narrative (right or wrong, I can't say) in the history of the UK and US. so Ukraine and Russia might "tick" along a different cycle
Welcome back South Stream
Two Russian TV Rossiya Crew killed by shelling.
Looks possible they were intentionally targeted.
Never been able to actually look at a target when firing artillery myself those guys must be good.
So, you just fire whereever, or do you have a forward spotter?
Volkodav:
American forces in Iraq intentionally killed many journalists
From the April 8, 2003 US intentional bombing of the Al Jazeera TV studio and the shelling of the Palestine Hotel housing many international journalists and the July 12, 2007 shooting of the two Reuters correspondents the US forces have been on a journalistic killing spree, killing over 300 journalists .Unless a journalist was embedded with US forces they were a target of the trigger happy US forces.
i think one jounalist from France escaped.....the US wasnt happy about reporting war atrocities done by Bush and Cheney but they did kill many "Not in the MSM club"
Eueope is going to be a very cold place this winter.
It fits in well with their austerity policies.
Wood/pellet stoves, this is all about Big Wood Stoves and their undo influence on Europe...
Jabul, the black forest is really just an alternative energy source.
Russia gave Ukraine Crimea and cheap gas since the 50's, whether its terrorists trying to draw mountains of tanks over their borders or revolutionaries picking their battles
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looks like a concerted 60 year policy of apeasement producing a failed state
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Russia can only look like the bad guy when this shit happens bitchez
Russia need only wait until Western Europeans are clamoring about what happens when they have no hot water and cannot light up their stoves this summer, then it won't look like the bad guy. Shit just got serious. The flow of energy just got threatened. This is one of those events that I've been worried about. The thin veiner of civility from the Western Europeans will disappear if they cannot cook their meals and heat their homes this winter.
Can Russia have set their own pipeline on fire to set it up as a False Flag excuse to invade?
Qui bono?
Russia has an excuse for an Ukraine invasion that Western Europe will wholeheartedly support. Russia benefits.
NatGas prices increase. Russia benefits.
Just whom had the means, opportunity, and motive for setting the Pipeline ablaze?
If Western European citizens believe that Russia is a benevolent oligarch then they have forgot the lessons learned in the Cold War Era when the Russian sphere went without so that Mother Russia prospered.
The Russian oligarchs are neither better, nor, any worse than the oligarchs in the United States.
Russia is ruled by just another Crime Syndicate.
(It gets mighty cold in Ukraine also. I have suggested that they use that as a bargaining chip, before, and set a transit fee per volume of NatGas traveling through the pipelines in order to alleviate their energy expenses. It seems that not only do the Russians not want to deal. It now seems that they are provoking an all out war. Qui bono.)
and perhaps the CIA did it to try to draw Russia into Ukraine....use your head!
Come Oct, we will see how much the Ukraine and the EU REALLY want to keep the US a 'friends'
What a fuss about nothing. It's a fire, folks.
Fire Dept. will deal with it.
nuff said.
I was thinking just the other day of what I would do if I were a pro-Russian in the East to screw with the bankers and fascists in the West. You have to take what the enemy loves. And the whole reason they are there is those piplines.
You guys should check out the new super sub the Russkies just launched.
One thing for sure, they do not rest on their laurels.
Linque?
http://rt.com/news/166480-yasen-class-submarine-severodvinsk/
They better not as they are 20 years behind...
i read that their Jets and missiles are state of the art.......just sayin
The USA for once must be feeling mighty proud of itself for once for having brought so much turmoil to Ukraine as well as causing so much inconvenience to Russia without having to spend the usual billions and trillions. It has simply thrown some scraps at Ukraine and sent a few "advisors" as well.
If Europe feels the pinch as well so much the better in the eyes of the USA.
Anything to stay on top by bringing the others down.
but they are spending billions.
Gazprom can now declare force majeure and halt EU exports alltogether
Russia needs the money so that is very unlikely.
Not only that, but "We tried to deliver your gas to Western Europe, but that pesky CIA and US State Dept. destabilized the region where the gas lines run through, and things started getting blown up!" We are being given enough rope here.
Maybe so, but having the gas is better than having the money at this point because the premium will have to be paid in the long run. That's the problem with the west's provocations, they don't seem to think very far into the future. Russia apparently does and this is why the west's machinations are folly.
What does that even mean?
I'm not picking on you, it's just that your post got me to thinking...Why does a country like Russia NEED the money? Why does ANY country not located directly on top of a desert wasteland NEED anyone's money?
Do these countries, ours included, NOT have enough resources within its own borders to take care of its needs? Sure, you might have to import a bit of this or that, but surely you have something else that can be exchanged?
Someone like Saudi Arabia, being on a desert wasteland, have to sell their oil to buy the other stuff they need...but why do WE put ours on the 'world market' if we need cheaper energy HERE? And we grow so much food here, that we have to put the surplus on the market, but why do so many other countries without real 'surplus' do the same shit with the food THEY grow within their borders?
Why has the world allowed big finance to force global markets for EVERYTHING? Markets that they then "play" and manipulate in order to skim the cream off the top...
So, with energy, for instance, there are those who argue, quite rightly, that increased domestic production won't help us because energy is a "global marketplace". But what I want to know is this...WHY are they right? WHY does this stupid situation exist in the first place? Why shouldn't we use our domestic production for US, and then buy the rest of what we need, if any, from that 'global marketplace?" And the same thing with everything else...why do we all have to put everything into the "pot" when we all know that someone is stealing from that pot?
Isolationism and Protectionism have been demonstrated over the many centuries not to work. Protectionism was one of the major causes of the duration of the Great Depression of the 1930's. (That was a GLOBAL EVENT.)
Isolationism causes stagnation culturally, economically, and leads to civil decline. The best current case in point is that of North Korea. You can actually see the difference by looking at a nighttime photo of the Korean peninsula taken from orbit.
Erecting trade barriers does not serve any useful purpose other than to make certain that what you suggest happens. When a country imposes tariffs upon imports and restricts exports then other nations will do likewise in response. That is the seed of a Trade War.
For instance if West Texas Cruse is selling for less than Brent then there is an incentive for producers to sell West Texas Crude on the open Market. (If I can sell Gas in the USA for $4 per Gallon and I can get $10 per Gallon in Europe then why sell domestically? I am in business FOR A PROFIT and I intend to MAXIMIZE PROFITS. That is the only reason to have the headache of running a business. PROFIT.) So the way to restrict the selling is to impose a tax upon the export. Now the US Government can do that. But it is folly as a foreign nation exporting their oil will respond by imposing a tax on exporting their Oil.
Government restrictions ARE THE PROBLEM and they do not allow for free trade.
The best solution is a free market solution without any Government restrictions upon the flow of business.
Government is NEVER a solution. Asking for more Government is just asking for more problems.
Those things only create a problem for those who WANT global markets. There's nothing wrong with a country 'protecting' its business interests, if that means limiting exports or imports, than so be it...its THEIR country, NOT someone else's "free market".
Forcing all countries to compete "fairly" in a global marketplace only benefits the larger economies, and the bigger business interests. Small local businesses cannot afford to trade in such a marketplace, so they don't get the benefits. But they DO end up having to try and survive in the aftermath, lacking the ability to relocate like the big boys do.
Greece and the EU are perfect examples of what happens when you force completely different economies to compete on the same playing field. Instead of controlling its own currency, and adjusting it to THEIR unique situation, they get thrown into the ring with Germany, with who they CAN'T compete. Germany wipes the floor with them economically, then ends up having to bail their asses out when they go under. It breeds resentments, and leads to an entire country collapsing economically despite all the rescue efforts...
Better to have let the two forge their OWN economies, based on their OWN needs and abilities.
Instead of insisting that all wealth be "global", we need to step back and allow different peoples and cultures to form their OWN ways of integrating with the world, IF they choose to.
The Saker (with whom I have no connection), writing from Florida/USA at The Vineyard of the Saker, provides, in my opinion, the most penetrating and incisive coverage* of the USA empowering vicious Nazis in Ukraine. Even the comments are informative and perceptive.
* You can confirm this by skimming his RSS feed page. Note particularly the COMBAT SITREPS.
I particularly recommend the five posts below.
Regarding the two short videos: the first is extremely powerful — WARNING: very graphic live footage beginning at [02:31], and the second is a powerful and informative 78 seconds):
[VIDEO - 04:39] '"For Inna" - a video which should be circulated worldwide'
[VIDEO - 01:18] Save Donbass People from Ukrainian Army!
Translation of the "must read" article of worldcrisis.ru explaining why there is no Russian intervention in the Ukraine
Considering the "what ifs" and "then whats" of a direct Russian intervention in the Donbass
A scorecard for the US "lukewarm war" on Russia - strategic and tactical levels
15 June
The must read article mentions NAFTA.
I didn't recall that, so I just did a page search there for "NAFTA": no results, but "trade" yields eight results.
Try "Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership" (TTIP) which is NAFTA. Confusing? It's supposed to be.
Those are TWO SEPARATE AGREEMENTS. While NAFTA was very bad the TTIP is also just as bad for business.