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Ukraine Says Gas Pipeline Explosion "Probably Terrorist Attack"
Just minutes after claiming the 'explosion' at "The Brotherhood" pipeline in Ukraine was not an explosion but a 'fire', Ukraine's interior minister Arsen Avakov has stated that:
- *UKRAINE SAYS GAS PIPELINE EXPLOSION PROBABLY TERROR ATTACK
Of course, the question is which 'terrorists'? The Right Sector or the Russian separatists. According to reports from UKRTransGas, the fire has now been extinguished but it is the rhetoric of Ukraine's Yatsenyuk "Russia is trying to detroy Ukraine" that is most troubling as, like Russia's Pushkov warned, Ukraine-Russia tensions have reached a new stage.
As Bloomberg reports, Ukraine is blaming the Russians for the explosion...
Terrorism suspected in blast today on Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod transit pipeline, Interior Minister Arsen Avakov says in website statement.
Other causes of explosion also under investigation
Avakov says explosion is another attempt by Russia to discredit Ukraine as partner in gas industry
Gas transit wasn’t disrupted
Ukraine to boost security along gas transport system, Naftogaz CEO Andriy Kobolyev says on Facebook
But did Ukraine 'terrorize' its own infrastructure? Biting off their own nose to spite the Russians as they no longer benefit from it... and forcing a squeeze on European supplies in order to gain more backing for either aid or military action?
Gas pipe line #explosion — picture of blast site. Sabotage suspected. pic.twitter.com/GSTKxmmcPF
— Gregory Zhygalov (@GZhygalov) June 17, 2014
The following clip (translated by Bloomberg) suggests tensions in Ukraine are anything but the calm that the mainstream media appears to make out: "Russia's gas halt aims to destroy Ukraine"
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Terr-rism is getting harder to define, better consult Nudelman's "Guide to the World, 2014 Edition"
Not sure how attacking a strategic asset is political, but ok....
No logic, just Kiev following the Nudelman's USSA orders.
Nope Soros puppeteering as usual. Money all goes back to him.
Terrorists? Their terrorists or our terrorists? And on what side am I? Or we?. Or them?
There is no 'side' in a puppet show.
Except the side the puppet-master sticks his hand into.
Since Adam, we are all terrorists in the eyes of The Lord
"War is an expression of politics by other means."
I think it was "continuation", but point made...
Presidents name is "Petro" and interior ministry guys name is "Arsen". WTF did everyone think would happen?
Doesn't really matter what they do.
The travelling theatre group should be reminded their rent is beyond overdue, the audience is demanding a refund and there are other acts that require the venue after renovations. It would be best for them to exit or the bouncers will assist in relocation to curb side. Owner says no credit, cash and carry only.
Terrorists are always theirs. Ours are freedom fighters, liberators or those yearning to be free.
Bitcoin fonestar, read this,
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2014/06/the-nsa-now...
Signed,
Putzoid
No, it is just PUTIN - HUYLO!
You are completely ate up with the fucking dumbass.
Get the fuck off the thread nid.
ah, so terr-rism is political too? i thought they had to be mooslim nutjobs... damn this is gettin hard to figger out
Of course the Kiev Kriminals would blame Russia, since the Russians are also responsible for AIDS, Global Warming, Psaki's BS, lack of virgins over the age of 12, etc, etc.
Ukraine Says Gas Pipeline Explosion "Probably Terrorist Attack"We'll put this in the 'Captain Obvious" file.
Question is who did it?
Doesn't matter as we get to blame whomever we want. That's what makes terrorism so much fun.
On with the show.
Terrorist attack is PR spin for "War".
If I were Russia I'd think "good, now it's really cut off". I wouldn't trust much transiting Ukraine onto western customers--I'd guarantee they'd be stealing some of that gas.
Yatseniuk's rhetoric isn't helping. I do understand how not fun being a soviet client state had been. However, since it's a really stupid move, I'll put money on the CIA-backed folks.
Cui Bono?
As this is a direct threat to Europe - and a far greater threat than any benefit potentially provided by Ukraine being included in the Euro-Zone, I would say Russia.
OK - then who? Let's not forget that Ukraine has been floating the idea of taxing the flow of gas through the pipelines on their territory. . .
Ukraine already gets a percentage on the gas flow to Europe. The Kiev Yatzis are stupid, but not so dumb as to cut off a source of revenue. Russia gains no benefit from inoperable pipelines; no gas flow equals no cash flow.
The only party in this mess that has been trying every dirty trick they can think of to provoke Russia into military aggression is Vichy DC.
This was likely the work of Blackwater, Xe, Academi, Gheystone, et al.
German false flag
Ukraine needs German boots on the ground. The gas must flow.
"German boots on the ground" has become a contradiction of terms after WWII.
Besides, the Germans get their gas through different pipelines (vielen dank Herr Schroder !) ...
Yep makes perfect sense, Russia is going to sabotage their own transport pipelines to Europe!!
These motherfuckeras in Kiev are really ready to become "Westernized" aren't they??? The first requirements are to suspend all logic and rational thought process, believe money can be printed on tree indefinitely (as long as your the one who owns the printers), and label anyone opposed to your insanity, theft, and tyranny..... A terrorist!!
Check, check, and check.......Kiev your ready to join NATO, welcome aboard!
Are you telling us that Russians are not capable of false flags??
That's not the point. The Ukrainian government completely lost control of the country. Their statements on why anything happens there are based on 0 inquiry or any sort of investigation.
I don't really disagree...
I think that you can spin any version of who blew up what and why for a variety of scenarios...
It's far too early to be sure of anything....
Don't forget Dutch Elms disease....that was a Russian plot, too. Designed to smear the Dutch, obviously.
"Probably Terrorist Attack" Translation: "Probably AL-CIA-DA" Attack
Petrodollar Revenge!!!
Shut the hell up!
CNBC and Bloomberg might have to report this if it gets out!
You're right!
However, if I want CNBC's Opinion' I will give it to 'em!
Can't make this shit up. I think the US installed people too familiar with the US mindset.
Everything from car crashes to rain showers have to be examined for terrorist ties.
pods
Having won the presidential election on May 25, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko secretly met with strange American delegation headed by the Director of the National Service of Covert Operations (the CIA's National Clandestine Service) Frank Archibald, which also included former CIA chief in Ukraine Jeffrey Egan, the current - Raymond Mark Davidson, Mark Buggy (CIA, Istanbul), Andrzej Derlatka, a CIA agent in the Polish intelligence Agency and member of CIA Kevin Duffin who is working as senior Vice President of the insurance company Brower. Poroshenko and Archibald signed paper entitled an “Agreement on Military Cooperation between the U.S. and Ukraine"…
The composition of the U.S. delegation, which is rather mysterious at first glance, is explained by the fact that the professional diplomats would not understand at all what it was about, and by the fact that the U.S. Congress would not authorize the usual military cooperation agreement which involves sending military trainers and direct participation of American troops in the armed conflict in Ukraine.
However, the National Service of Covert Operations can bypass the lawmakers through channels such as private insurance company Brower, belonging to the CIA. It can provide large-scale military aid to other countries using its operatives and employees of private military contractors.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/pview/2014/06/10/place-of-ukraine-in-us...
Corporate armies - that's a great idea!
The Invisible Hand would like to do some smiting, too.
Oh Blackwater keep on turnin'.....
What took the Greystone (nee Blackwater) mercenaries so long to act?
http://rt.com/news/158212-academi-blackwater-ukraine-military/
They finally made it out of the Odessa whorehouses, after too much sala and deviant sex.
Soros won't pay for damaged pipes. he already paid enough for the whole government.
Going to be an interesting winter in the E.Z., should the "spice" stop flowing...
The Eastern E.Z.....
Between storage, Nordstream and the LNG facilities, things won't be too bad west of the Oder....
No doubt Qatari LNG will be bid up...
The terrorists are in Kiev.
Putin keeps saying "check" but the west is convinced it is winning.
Long hot summer.
This guy man pfff timosjenko's whipping boy, tries to play friendly with the nazi's in the parlement but its clear its all an act. Forcing Ukraine on a path of selfdestruction
"Russia's gas halt aims to destroy Ukraine". How about not paying for the gas you already used? It sucks to be 'independent' and have to pay the piper. What Ukraine needs to fear is NOT Russia who us only interested in getting paid and not having Ukraine in NATO, but the bankers who really DO want to pile up enough debt and austerity to destroy the Ukrainian future.
Germany paid the bill directly to Putin. Merkel is partying it up in Rio. You think she'd be concerned if this was a real issue with potential ramifications for the German economy. Merkel herself filled in the wire cable at the teller. It's all legit.
Ukraine wants to pay FAIR PRICE for GAS, not the price Putin is using as POLITICAL GUN. Putin wants to punish Ukraine because it wants be no more vasal of Russia as with Yanukowich.
This is very same as the case of Chodorkowski, as far as you make what Putin wants you get rich benefits, if NOT you will be BURNED. Chodorkowski did NOTHING worse than other Russian oligarchs, got rich thanks to Putin. The only reason he was prisoned is that he tried to be independent to Putin. Now every other Russian oligarch knows exactly how will be handled if reject to act what Putin requires. Ordinary Russians must be really happy that profit from their national commodities have only a few politically connected individuals and some politicians which gets from oligarch its share.
Every other country pays much less than Russia wants from Ukraine now. The REAL expense of GAS delivery to Ukraine is LOWER then for any other EU country. Ukraine is nearest to Russia, the price do not contains transit fees ( in contrast to other countries ).
"Ukraine wants to pay FAIR PRICE for GAS, not the price Putin is using as POLITICAL GUN. "
I always thought that the FAIR PRICE was the price the Seller chose to accept.
TERROR!
How long until Israel is able to sell Europe gas from Leviathan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_gas_field
Seriously...?
There is no enabling infrastructure. (Cep't through Syria - think about that for a minute.)
When they accept they have to share some of the goodies with the Lebanon and Palestinians.
Notice how Wikipedia introduces its information on the Leviathan Gas Field with a lie by omission, forgetting, for example, that the gas field straddles the Israeli-Lebanese maritime border. It seems a bit of misinformation for Wiki to eliminate that fact and discuss how only Israel now is poised as the sole energy giant, that only Israel has relationships with the energy development companies:
“It was announced on 21st May 2014 that Woodside Petroleum pulled out of an agreement to take a stake worth up to $2.7 billion in Israel's flagship Leviathan gas project, as the group developing the field shifted focus to regional markets.”
Writes Wiki: “The Leviathan gas field is a large natural gas field located in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Israel, 47 kilometres (29 mi) south-west of the Tamar gas field… The gas find has the potential to change Israel's foreign relations towards a closer collaboration with Turkey and Egypt.[5] Together with the nearby Tamar gas field, it has been seen as an opportunity to Israel to become a major energy power in the Middle East.”
Backed by the American bully club, Israel apparently, according to Wiki, has had the last word on ownership. Correct me if this is not true. For as Neal Ungerleider wrote in 2010:
“It can be said that God has a sick sense of humor. Scientists recently discovered a massive offshore reserve of an estimated 122 trillion cubic feet of natural gas called the Levant Basin Province. While it is one of the world's richest natural gas reserves, the Levant Basin Province is located between countries with endless amounts of mutual hatred. It straddles the sea borders of Israel, Lebanon, Palestine, the Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus." --Neal Ungerleider (2010)
"Estimated gas in place 535×109 m3"
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_consumption this is halfway between Russia, Europe and US yearly demand.
I think not paying the gas bill does more than anything to: discredit Ukraine as partner in gas industry
Who says they didn't pay? Did you check the SWIFT records?
You are of course, kidding. Even the Ukies admit they owe billions. From the MSM's mouth to your eyes:
.http://news.yahoo.com/look-russian-ukrainian-gas-dispute-160814053.html
Well, it's a dispute. I'm sure Ukraine has good reasons not to settle their debts in full and at this time. Sucks that Russia is not connected by Russian land to its customers in the West. There's a new pipeline story in there somewhere, somehow.
The only logical action to take at this point is to buy more NFLX.
"Russia's gas halt aims to destroy Ukraine"
Why does this remind Me of situations where People stop paying their mortgage or rent and totally trash the properties before finally leaving?
Why the hell not? The banks pulled the fiat to finance the mortgages out of their ass in the first place. The home"owner" aka debt slave paid interest on this ficticious fiat from his/her hard earned slave earnings and when he/she loses his/her job to pay the illusionary banker's wealth, they have every right to pull a scortched earth stunt. Save it for what? The children that are booted out by the banks as well? Save it for the banks so they can resell it and put another slave into shackles?
If you are serious about fighting the banks, you have to hit them where it hurts them the most. Destroy collateral and stop paying the debt which is their wealth.
1. Banks don't usually rent out properties.
-& unpaid rents isn't a valid excuse for the Owner to forgo the mortgage, insurance or property taxes.
2. You seem to think that only Banks sell houses.
People sell houses, too.
-My own Father sold a home in Detroit and moved Our Family to Phoenix, AZ. He foolishly direct financed the sale.
Two years later We finally went back to reclaim the property as the neighbors said they had finally abandoned the place.
What had once been a beautiful three-story two family home with a swimming pool had been all but gutted to the studs.
The bastards had even left dogs locked up in the basement with no food or water to keep people out.
-Thank God the dogs were so hungry that they ran to the food and ate when We opend that black door of rattling howling chaos and We didn't have to shoot the poor beasts...
3. What do You think happens to the property value of the houses adjacent to trashed and abandoned properties?
4. WHO do You think pays for the kids to go to school for the two years average that people are sitting in the homes when they aren't paying the property taxes?
I have news for You; it ain't the Banks that pay.
I'll wager that I probably hate the damned Banksters as much as any feral miscreant roaming about in here; but, I also know that in most cases it isn't the Banksters that are paying the price for non-payments and defaults and/or property destruction.
Every day it's a different fucking bitter laugh
Noodleman, why don't you and Yats get out of Ukraine! Methinks you are both mental.
As of now its turned into a Globalist PsyOp campaign. The Global Crriminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate goal is Total Complete Full Spcetrum World Dominaltion at all costs.
All indications seem to believe that what the world is leading into is "The Sampson Option".
Mutual Destruction, Total Complete Full Spectrum World Domination amongst a select few, & Slaves.
Wash, reinsert, repeat.
'Terrorism'- Blanket excuse anytime the elite ass hats need to stage a diversion.
Well, you get to thoroughly terrorize people after you've called them a terrorist, so there's that.
Terrorism, you see, requires a VIGOROUS response.
Another amerikan gift to the world, right up there with the hot dog
Right Sector leader commented around March 16 that Kiev should be ready to sabotage the pipeline:
http://rt.com/news/yarosh-destroy-russia-pipelines-186/
Any one doubt that he was serious?
Says Russian government mouth piece...
too simple
Are you claiming Yarosh didn't say it?
Why are you on the N
OK, how about these as well. Point being more than one media outlet picked up on this.
http://pressall.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/breaking-news-right-sector-lead...
http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/17/crimeas-vote-for-russia-prompts-diplomatic-an...
Most Western press didn't because they have a habit of censoring news when it is against their favour.
what about the CIA mouthpieces that have taken over Ukraine? you dolt
Putin - huylo, that's all about it!
Ahahahahah!! Scripted by the White House?
'Never let a good crisis go to waste."
…it is the rhetoric of Ukraine's Yatsenyuk "Russia is trying to detroy Ukraine" that is most troubling…
The Kiev criminals are out of control, attacking, killing, demonizing their own people (Ukrainians allegedly against Ukrainians). And the viciousness of their words reveal an unstable, illegitimate government out of control. If they are on a leash from the American government, this chain needs to be pulled.
One individual in this fight has been sensible. That’s Putin.
If the object of the Kiev monsters is to bring Russia into a full scale war to divide Ukraine, they are going to get it. And if John McCain thinks that something can be done, the bottom line was found in an earlier comment by former Defense Secretary Gates:
“The U.S. has no cards to play.” IOW, the US can’t do anything, Ukraine is right on Russia’s border, Russia will solve this bang, bang, bang; and the US would be well advised to just stand pat.
i live near a joint navy/AF base, seems like a plane taking off every 10 minutes, usually only a few per day...hoo rah!! let's do this again!
Nah, the DOD bought jetfuel at a discount and their storage tanks are full. Economy is so swell and oil is abundant. Time to burn it up.
Round up the usual suspects. . . starting with the guy named "Arsen"
We are living in a twisted Dickens serial.
That's Bibi's line... 3 people disappear in Israel so let's around up 150 usual suspects with absolutely no evidence (beyond at most guilt by association), much less due process or respect for any civil rights...
Long cold winter cometh, comrades.
I thought Russia shut off the tab? Why is it still burning? Maybe this was just a test. I do this all the time with my bbq. Come to think of it, I haven't had to see the hairdresser for a long time....
try to keep up,
it is EU-purchased gas that transits through a pipeline in Ukraine,
and for which Ukraine collects a hefty pipeline transit fee.
tryin' bro but I doubt anyone is able to keep up anymore...
until German boots are on the ground in Ukraine to ensure the gas flows, keeping up is just an illusion
THe Billionaire Leader of the Ukraine could hardly care about losing "hefty fees" This is more about propaghanda to make Russia look bad, and draw in the Americans to "help out" Fun being a "puppet state" of the USA?
Putin - Huylo! it's official
Wait! I know.
Catch Nudelman and Yats and put them on "That Midnight Train to Georgia."
long space heaters, and fire trucks...
Not the sharpest tool in the woodshed.
hahaha.......
Ukraine - opps, we are the terrorists.
IMF -> if you don't get back Crimea you aren't getting any FIAT. (its worthless anyway as the world is now dumping the USD)
Look Eastern Europe, these are suppose to be your saviours. Actually they are only fascist/nazi's in disguise and their criminal MO's are becoming clearer by the hour. These criminals have no honor.
"V" from RogueMoney. net has posted an urgent audio update this morning at his web site. The content at his site is usuall reserved for subscribers, but this particular audio file is publicly available. This morning, he received word from his City of London bank contacts that this explosion was a covert CIA operation ... and Putin knows it. Moscow will be launching a retaliatory operation near JULY 15TH to secure the pipeline and to finally squash the Western bankster terror ops once and for all.
July 15th, of course, coincides with his previous announcement about the unleashing of the Silver Spot Price. This of course will set off the final nail-hammering into the coffin of the US Dollar. A One-Two punch against the West.
https://soundcloud.com/v-guerrilla/guerrillareport-061714
#WW3
Hmmm...
One mysterious contact knows "who dun it", what Putin knows, what Putin will do, and when he will do it.
Fascinating.
End of the world July 15th? Ok, that's 2 days after the World Cup final. I'm available. Glad they made that "audio" public when all their other recordings are "membership only".
I am pretty sure they meant to say terrorthemsims like refering to them folks with the isms doing terrible things.
Well the timing makes that pretty fucking obvious. The question is who formed what aliance to get the shit done. The possibilites are many with odds high that somewhere there is a banker or two involved.
"Which Terrorists?"
"WHICH TERRORISTS??!?!?!?!"
For weeks we've been assured that on one side there were ONLY Genuine Hitler-trained NAZI's weaned on the blood of freshly killed children,
AND ON THE OTHER,
There were ONLY milk-souled candidates for sainthood with with a bible in one hand and the writings of Thomas Jefferson in the other!!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "WHICH TERRORISTS"?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
If the gas stops flowing to Europe due to instability in the Ukraine, Putin can point to the Ukraine government as being inept and unable to even protect a few pipelines in their own backyard, additionally if the gas stops flowing to Europe the price will go up, hardship in Europe also plays into his hands and discredits the Ukrainian Government.
I have no doubt the Ukranian Government did this out of spite at their recent unsuccessful negotiation to obtain Gas at a discount to the price Europe pays and therefore to make money onselling it. I think they see this as an opening move to bring Russia back to the negotiating table on their terms, I think they will be disappointed. Europe has no problem with the Ukrainian government stuffing up their own economy but will react very differently to the Ukraine stuffing Europes economies up.
For all those who have cheered this conflict in general and Putin in particular, while voting me down in massive numbers, PLEASE RECALL...
... I predicted this many weeks ago.
If you like your Crimea you can keep it.
If you like your pipelines you can keep those too.
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Ukraine wants to pay FAIR PRICE for GAS, not the price Putin is using as POLITICAL GUN. Putin wants to punish Ukraine because it wants be no more vasal of Russia as with Yanukowich.
This is very same as the case of Chodorkowski, as far as you make what Putin wants you get rich benefits, if NOT you will be BURNED. Chodorkowski did NOTHING worse than other Russian oligarchs, got rich thanks to Putin. The only reason he was prisoned is that he tried to be independent to Putin. Now every other Russian oligarch knows exactly how will be handled if reject to act what Putin requires. Ordinary Russians must be really happy that profit from their national commodities have only a few politically connected individuals and some politicians which gets from oligarch its share.
Every other country pays much less than Russia wants from Ukraine now. Even the REAL expense of GAS ARE for Ukraine LOWER then for any other EU country. Ukraine is nearest to Russia, the price do not contains transit fees ( in contrast to other countries )
1.Russian troops moved to Ukraine border...
2. Next days gas pipeline exploded in Ukraine....
Is this the reason Russia seeks for military action in Ukraine? (if Ukraine is not able to protect gas pipelines, Russia should do it? )
It simply makes no sense Ukraine would cause this explosion, it could only lost from this.
Its exactly as in Syria as it made no sense Assad used chemical weapons against rebels, despite US presented some proofs of this. ( This was probably only trick of US )
In Syria case Russia played stabilizing role, but now in Ukraine it seems be exactly the opposite.
well, if they make it look like Russia did it, they can call in for more US help weapons and money
That's the same Yatseniyuk that called Eastern Ukraininan separatists subhumans.
http://politicalfilm.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/yats-nazi-speech/
Which to me is quite confusing. Does he consider them sub-human because they refuse to join the EU shitshow, or because they are goyim?
There you have: a US-appointed-Jew-banker prime minister using nazi rethoric.
A foreign minister that resorts to calling a foreign leader names whilst being present at the scene of the attack to a diplomatic mission in contravention to the Viena Convention.
Easy to understand why the Saker call these guys freaks.
We've been told that the Ukraine conflict is a simple tale of evil Nazi fascist men in the west, and saintly freedom loving republican separatists in the east.
It appears that story leaves out a lot of pertinent details.
Shut the gas off untill the CIA backed dolts get the message- im sure large groups of people with torches and nooses could get the gas turned back on soon