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Gallup's Stunning Explanation For America's Unemployment Epidemic: Obesity

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Two things became abundantly clear during today's Yellen press conference: i) the Fed no longer has any idea what it is doing, or where it is steering the economy, exemplified by the Chairwoman's response that she has little "confidence" in the Fed's current set of forecasts (because one can be wrong only for so long about the economy before one indeed loses all confidence in one's abilities), however since everyone is benefiting for now as the asset bubble is still growing and asset prices are still rising, there is nothing the Fed will change about its current line of action and ii) the Fed has no idea how or why unemployment - as massaged as it may be courtesy of tens of millions of Americans dropping out of the labor force - is as high and as structural as it is.

Of course, all of this should have been quite obvious to everyone else years ago when trillion after trillion in excess liquidity did nothing to stimulate the economy (as can be seen in the -2.0% GDP Q1 GDP is set to print in its final revision), and certainly nothing to boost employment, particularly long-term unemployment - those who are out of work for 12 months or more - to above-consensus levels.

So it appears there is something far more structural with America's long-term unemployment problem, something not even the "smartest academics in the (Marriner Eccles) room" can diagnose. Surprisingly, earlier today Gallup reported one factor that may be contributing to America's unemployment malaise - the same problem that is the reason for the insolvent US welfare state coffers: obesity.

According to Gallup, Americans who have been out of work for a year or more are much more likely to be obese than those unemployed for a shorter time. The obesity rate rises from 22.8% among those unemployed for two weeks or less to 32.7% among those unemployed for 52 weeks or more.

How does Gallup keep track of the Body Mass Index of America's millions of unemployed?

Gallup tracks U.S. obesity levels daily using Americans' self-reported height and weight to calculate body mass index (BMI) scores as part of the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index. Individuals with BMI scores of 30 or higher are considered obese. The Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index also tracks the percentages of Americans who report that they have ever been diagnosed with various health conditions related to obesity, including high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes.


These results are based on nearly 5,000 interviews throughout 2013 with the long-term unemployed (defined by the Bureau of Labor Statistics as being unemployed for 27 weeks or more) and more than 13,000 interviews with the short-term unemployed (those out of work for less than 27 weeks).


Gallup and Healthways also track the percentages of Americans who say they currently have or are being treated for health conditions such as high blood pressure and high cholesterol. In both cases, the differences between the short-term unemployed and the long-term unemployed are striking: Those who have been jobless for 27 weeks or more are nearly twice as likely to say they currently have high blood pressure, and to say they have high cholesterol.

Gallup's shocking finding: Americans who have been unemployed for less than 27 weeks are somewhat less likely than those with jobs to have each of these conditions.

But is unemployment the cause of obesity, or vice versa, are the obese Americans simply more unwilling to look for work, or are just considered less "attractive", less hireable, and more of a "health insurance cost" threat to potential employers?

While these results offer evidence of a strong relationship between unemployment and obesity-related health concerns, the causal direction is not clear. Unemployment may cause some people to engage in behaviors that lead to health problems, while pre-existing health conditions may make it harder for others to find and keep work. For many individuals, both dynamics may be at work, perpetuating a negative cycle of declining job prospects and worsening health.

Gallup observes that jobless Americans may be more likely to fall into such a cycle if a higher incidence of health problems hinders their efforts to find a good job. Those out of work for 27 weeks or more report experiencing an average of 4.7 days out of the past 30 when poor health kept them from doing their usual activities. That compares with an average of 2.8 lower-productivity days for those unemployed for a shorter period, and just 1.4 days for full-time workers.

Over the longer term, one of the most worrisome implications of these relationships is that many of those who have been unemployed for a prolonged period may suffer chronic health problems even if they successfully re-enter the workforce. A 2009 study of Pennsylvania workers laid off in the 1970s and 1980s found that even 20 years later, these workers were 10% to 15% more likely to die in a given year than those who had not suffered a job loss.

Gallup's conclusion:

With record-setting rates of long-term unemployment in most U.S. states, the health consequences of extended periods of joblessness have become a rising concern for policymakers. The Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index makes it possible to examine health and well-being conditions associated with long-term unemployment more closely than is possible using smaller-scale studies. Importantly, the tracking data can be aggregated to produce the large sample sizes necessary for studying well-being among specific employment groups.

One key concern raised by the current analysis is that employers in industries that require manual labor, such as manufacturing and construction, may be less likely to hire candidates who are clearly out of shape. If so, workers in these industries -- who already earn lower wages, on average, than those in knowledge-based sectors -- may be even more likely to be caught in a negative cycle of joblessness and poor health.

And there is another aspect, one where Obamacare also comes into play: private employers' high healthcare costs might lead them to avoid taking chances on those who pose greater health risks, particularly in a tenuous economic climate. As a result, candidates who are obese and who have been unemployed for 27 weeks or more may have two strikes against them even before they sit down for an interview.

So perhaps instead of dumping trillions into the stock market in hopes this record "wealth", already accruing to the wealthiest 1%, will trickle down to the average American, a far better use of the Fed's cash would be to launch weight-loss initiatives for America's record obese population: perhaps offering a monthly prize of $1,000 for every 10 pounds that Joe Sixpack manages to lose, and keep off every month. While it is arguable if this will help solve America's unemployment (and obesity) problems, it certainly will lower US healthcare costs in the long-run, and will also make for a far more fit population... At least until those who are not obese and also can't find a job accuse the Fed of discriminating against them.

Of course, considering the efficacy of the Fed's behavioral experiment this could simply backfire and force ever more Americans to become obese in hopes they too will be "subsidized" by free taxpayer money to lose said weight.

Perhaps, in retrospect, there is no fixing these two intertwined problems. Which leads to a sad conclusion: America's population may be increasingly unemployed, but at least it's fat...


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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:34 | 4871947 algol_dog
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Not far fetched -

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:47 | 4871997 john39
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not to worry. our owners already have a solution planned.  starve the masses, that will fix the obesity and unemployment issues at the same time.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:50 | 4872006 RevRex
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So Gallup is now in the business of fondling Obama's dick......nice!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:52 | 4872016 economics9698
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Other way around.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:59 | 4872043 Anusocracy
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21st Century America: the morbidly obese ruled by the morbidly evil.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:31 | 4872130 NoDebt
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Morbid obesity is a valid SSI disability claim reason.  Thorw in a little Type II diabetes and you're home free.  Just sayin'.

Trying to pick out cause and effect in this kinda stuff is like trying to pick fly shit out of pepper. Nobody wants to address the real problems so we all sit around working on meaningless marginal issues like this that will NEVER fix what's wrong.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:33 | 4872137 Oh regional Indian
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I'm discovering that Data might be our biggest addiction....and will make you fat, too much of it.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:48 | 4872195 Flakmeister
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The lack of understanding needed to identify what is important and what is not is sorely lacking, it starts with a grasp of statistics and the rudiments of calculus...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:00 | 4872217 BLOTTO
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Whether your not working or working too much, on anti depressants, stressed, angry, happy, drunk, high, etc... - you eat.


At least dont bug me and leave me in peace while i just try to enjoy my burger and fries...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:03 | 4872257 wee-weed up
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I'd like to hear that blivit, Larry Summers', opinion on this.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 06:55 | 4872781 Headbanger
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No no no Flakmeister...

It's all about THERMODYNAMICS!

First Law:  What goes in must come out

Second Law:  Shit MUST happen to make shit happen


And don't forget PV = nRT and you can't push a string (unless it's frozen)

Any questions??

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 07:07 | 4872791 knukles
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Oh fuck me, mate.  Not another political meme being supported by the MSM Propaganda and Perceptions Management Orifice
Not that Americans are obese as a nation.
But can't work?

Blow me.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:05 | 4872881 TruthHunter
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"starts with a grasp of statistics and the rudiments of calculus..."

  Bush needed history, not calculus to stay out Iraq.

Money and politics approved Aspartame, not statistics. 


"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"


Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:45 | 4873037 Urban Redneck
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I guess Americans "understand" they didn't have a noticeable obesity problem back in 2006 back when there was no noticeable unemployment problem.

Fucktards who fail LOGIC and REASON apparently no longer even need to be misdirected with irrelevant correlations.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:22 | 4873204 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Exactly if anything if history is a guide there are less fat and in general healthier people when times are tough. Doesn't mean they are happier but they are fitter in general. No shortage of meatball heads back in 2006 if anything more of them existed then than now.

This is typical of shallow self centered societies looking for someone or something else to blame to make themselves feel better about themselves without having to look in the mirror and see something wrong with themselves. This clownshow needs to eat itself alive for any real resolution at this point. Trying to save it will only make it worse at this point.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:56 | 4873347 Flakmeister
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For some time now obesity has tracked with being lower on the socio-economic ladder.... 

Well off people tend not to live on high HFCS diets and highly processed crap..

But I agree the analysis is likely not controlling for well known effects and in essence is simply showing that those at the bottom are getting fucked and they happen to be more likely to be fat because they are already at the bottom...

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 11:18 | 4873789 Urban Redneck
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There are too many sickening correlations- HFCS, antibiotics (directly and through bio-magnification), GMO, sedentary lifestyles, normalization of self-destructive behaviors and traits...

If the socio-economic ladder actually was a ladder, there would be competition, both to climb it and to remain on top. So it doesn't bode well for the well-being of the artificially well-off on a slightly longer timeline.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:06 | 4872265 Pumpkin
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Morbid obesity is a valid SSI disability claim reason.  Thorw in a little Type II diabetes and you're home free.  Just sayin'.


Morbid obesity? Hey MFr, I'll have you know I've lost 3lbs since they took that picture.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:49 | 4872490 sessinpo
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NoDebt    Morbid obesity is a valid SSI disability claim reason.  Thorw in a little Type II diabetes and you're home free.  Just sayin'.


And they make great targets. Fat and slow. Just sayin'.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:31 | 4873239 Obese-Redneck
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Have you ever cracked a toilet by sitting on it?

You might be a redneck.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 03:33 | 4872662 Rusty Loads
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Weaponized beer.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 06:32 | 4872756 mrpxsytin
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Real beer?

Why must you put corn syrup in your beer? Is there nothing sacred left in the USA diet?!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:49 | 4872197 Government need...
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They dont want to design the oven doors to be super wide.  For once, the sheep are too fat for the slaughter.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:50 | 4872494 sessinpo
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Government need...    They dont want to design the oven doors to be super wide.  For once, the sheep are too fat for the slaughter.


No one is to fat to be slaughtered.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:04 | 4872057 El Oregonian
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Sounds like the solution is to feed the economy with actual healthy growth instead of starving it as it is the case today.

I'd rather have a fat economy and lean workers which is the opposite of what we have now...

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:47 | 4872487 sessinpo
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RevRex   So Gallup is now in the business of fondling Obama's dick......nice!


Gallop wasn't before? Where have you been?

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:32 | 4873251 Obese-Redneck
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Have you ever had to chop up yer wife's dump with a knife to flush it?

Well son, you might be a redneck

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:54 | 4872025 NidStyles
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If they were going to starve them, they wouldn't be handing out EBT's.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:59 | 4872042 john39
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the processed GMO goodness that the poor for the most part buy with EBT cards isn't really food... in fact, it would be more accurate to say, its all part of the eugenics play.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:05 | 4872065 nmewn
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Plus one.

So the REAL question the "do-gooders" need to ask the state is why it is allowed?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:21 | 4872109 Oh regional Indian
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True John, We really are what we eat. Air, water, fire (food) and media....

The georgia guidestone conspiracy theory is fast looking like conspiracy fact, eh?



Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:41 | 4872167 john39
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The truth is too terrible for most to believe.  Too see it clearly, you have to step back, and taken an extreme long term view.  Tough to do when most of recorded history is lies and distortions.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:47 | 4872187 Oh regional Indian
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It is John. I'm just, for the first time reading The Secret Doctrine by Helena Blavatsky.... and my mind is well and truly blown.

And here I thought I was in-formed.....

Wheels with-in wheels into the inky blackness of the deep past.

One continuous story...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:30 | 4872332 john39
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i hear you ORI.  Once upon a time, this sort of knowledge was more wide spread, and there was more of a balence between light and dark.  In these times (Kali yuga) darkness predominates, and dark possessed people thrive.  they have all but over run the entire planet.  time to flip the switch?  stay tuned...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:43 | 4872359 Oh regional Indian
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Thu, 06/19/2014 - 07:09 | 4872799 knukles
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Why anyone gives a reddie to this thread concerning the guidestones theory/etc., is just beyond me.
Some pretty conventional thinking stuck in deep ruts around here.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 07:10 | 4872800 jbvtme
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Blavatsky wrote "Isis Unveiled"?

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:42 | 4873024 Oh regional Indian
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yes, her. theosophy founder,,,

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:56 | 4872471 Harbanger
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I would like to believe that, but "trust me", you're eating GMO food now that's been labeled organic and paying extra.  If you can't trust the Gov in general, why would you trust their labels and methods?  Feel good, that's why.  I bought some strawberries at wholefoods that were the size of lemons and labeled organic, organic my ass, strawberries don't grow that big and certainly not on a commercial farm.  Big tasteless empty shells taht were no match to the taste of a real strawberry.  Grow your own food if you want organic.  The bulk of your food is produced by large scale commercial farmers that have just as many connections to Govt bureaucracy as any other industry in crony USSA.  The reason people are fat is because they eat crappy processed food.  They ate crap before, now they have the ability to eat more of it.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 06:01 | 4872742 new game
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right on question-how can there be so much organic food when most of the lsnd is monsantoized? another fucking sham...

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 06:45 | 4872771 BeansMcGreens
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.....and the gmo crops are crossing with natural plants. An example is gmo rice to natural, wild rice. Remember, no plant has been "created" by man, only hybridized and improved. The round-up ready crops you eat such as soy beans and corn products, are being sprayed with round-up herbicide. Agent Orange for everyone.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:34 | 4872988 quasimodo
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Farmers markets are really gaining in popularity around here, even amongst all the GMO corn and soybean fields in IA. 

I have a garden, but we tend to buy local produce when we can. Real chickens raised in those portable "tractors", grass fed beef, etc.

It is spendy, yes...but worth every penny feeling better physically as a family and feeling good about knowing what we eat, to some degree, is grown around here.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:04 | 4872061 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Fuck that I'll Off myself before I starve...

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 01:13 | 4872515 Harbanger
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Something tells you'd off the guy next to you before you starve.  Just a gut feeling but I've been in that situation and it takes a strong constitution.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:05 | 4872066 LuciusGermanicus
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You'll have the starvation index to contend with.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 06:36 | 4872763 mrpxsytin
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I keep telling you guys to get to Australia:

What is it going to take for you to make the shift?!! 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:54 | 4872005 J S Bach
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Every time I see or think about the hippopotamus americanus, I can't help but think of that animated movie, "Wall-E" where the descendants of earth reside on some far-away planet as totally obese beings that can't even get out of their beds without the aid of a robot.  We're getting there.  It's a sure sign of the decadent and inevitable decline of a spoiled rotten country.  If this is the majority of "man-power" that will be at hand to re-build after the fall -- God help us all.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:13 | 4872281 James Dandy
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Somebody else on ZH referred to them as American land whales today or yesterday.  LMAO, how are they supposed to know all by themselves they can't survive on chips and corn syrup?

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 04:31 | 4872695 Postal
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hippopotamus americanus

LMAO! True. I haven't laughed so hard in ages.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:35 | 4873271 Obese-Redneck
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I don't get it, what's so funny?

Are y'all making fun a mah accent?

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 07:21 | 4872817 mrpxsytin
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Despair not good sir. For the DNA is robust indeed. No matter how decrepid the creature may look, know that it has an invincible DNA within its core. DNA that has been honed over billions of years of pain. 

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:08 | 4872903 gonetogalt
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Think again, or did you forget the /sarc/ tag?


Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:45 | 4873323 mrpxsytin
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You have just ruined my week.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:52 | 4872014 Berspankme
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How did they get my picture? Fucking NSA

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:54 | 4872027 HyperLazy
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The other day I was at Home Despot. I saw a 400 lb guy in a scooter. OK, something I have seen before. However, the guy put his scooter in reverse and damnable thing started beeping as if it were an oversized cargo vehicle...

But seriously, how else can any employer interpret an obese applicant's ability to work?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:32 | 4872140 oddjob
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All these people eating prepared foods and providing for their oversized needs would actually increase employment.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:06 | 4872410 teslaberry
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i will tell paul krugman he is helping increase the gdp as i stuff him until he is obese.


he's getting there by himself anyways. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:41 | 4872170 prains
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...the hopelessly fat are hopelessly lost when it's time to run, and that day is coming

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:52 | 4872207 tahoe1780
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Another government intervention gone horribly wrong:  How many have sufferd and died supporting that food pyramid?  Here's the cover from next Monday's Time magazine: 

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:13 | 4872424 TheMeatTrapper
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Absolutely spot on. In a natural diet, we chase down and kill meat. While wandering around looking for meat tracks, we gather plant leaves. When we kill the meat, we take great pleasure in the fat because it is good. 

Sugar is much more rare than meat or leaves in the wild. Robbing a bees nest of honey is a hell of a lot more work than catching a fish. 

The Indians would catch a bee, and tie a small feather to it's foot and release it. The bee would fly in a straight line to it's hive - the feather would allow one to see the direction of flight. The "bee line" would betray the location of the honey. 

I once spent 42 straight days in the Bolivian jungle with a mahagony logging crew. Interesting experience to have 8 guys, one duck, one pot and see every man produce a pocket full of greens, peppers, onions and such that they picked up during the work day. 

Went to sleep with a full stomach that night despite the fact that we started with nothing. Beaks, feet - everything goes in the pot. It's all good. 

That was a long time ago. Different life. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:13 | 4872290 jez
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The obesity rate rises from 22.8% among those unemployed for two weeks or less to 32.7% among those unemployed for 52 weeks or more.


Bullish for manufacturers of heavy-duty industrial winches.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:34 | 4871949 Flakmeister
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I wonder if he throws his weight around at the Hedge...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:51 | 4872009 nmewn
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No need to wonder, easy enough to see who posts EST ;-)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:36 | 4871950 Cacete de Ouro
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Super Size Me

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:37 | 4871956 CrashisOptimistic
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I can't quite understand which is the cause and which the effect in the text.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:49 | 4872004 Jam Akin
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Cue Cajun Man:  Correlation is not causation!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:38 | 4871962 frankTHE COIN
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Spare time equals Twinky consumption... Buy, buy, buy.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:38 | 4871963 Shizzmoney
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This is also another point of inflation that Yellen misses, "quality inflation"

Sure, you can eat a shit ton of food on an unemployment diet......because its the cheapest stuff of the lot, and that usually has more preservatives and other crap that excellerates the obesity process.  More Grade C than A

Plenty of working americans are fat, too, sitting on their ass all day.  But they also can afford or have access the gyms more than a depressed unemployed person.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:22 | 4872445 effendi
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Having had  periods of unemployment/underemployment I can assure you that the unemployed don't need money or a gym membership to stay fit. They only need to motivate themselves to get off their fat arses and get active.

Going for long walks, hiking through the forest, doing laps of the local oval cost nothing. Plenty of parks have equipment that can be used by the public to do fitness routines. You only need a bit of ground to do push ups, squats etc. They have the time and they can start out at a basic level of activity and build up from there.

95% of fatties are that way by their own poor choices and lack of will power. That probably explains why they remain unemployable as what potential employer wants an unmotivated/lazy worker who will likely take lots of time off work due to health issues.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 05:44 | 4872732 barre-de-rire
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americans forget something essential, weight & food, it is all mecanical, and lazyness. you dont wanna cook, you go drive in, so you buy ugly shit food ( mc donalds's ), too rich for the moves done in the day.


just eat vegetables as much as needed to feel satiated, you will never get weight...



Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:39 | 4871965 Grande Tetons
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Bullish wider door frames. 

We are gonna need to refab these double wides, Warren. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:39 | 4871967 NuckingFuts
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I have heard of folks on SSDI permanently due to obesity. WTF, being a lazy sack of shit with zero willpower is a disability. Only in Merica.

We are fucking doomed.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:01 | 4872055 nmewn
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Your're just not compassionate enough, you wage slave...and prolly a razzzist tea bagger too! Krugman says, strippers need government EBT customers or they'll starve to death right there at the bottom of the pole.

Think of their poor cheeeldrin ;-)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:09 | 4872074 logicalman
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The EU is seriously considering defining obesity as a disability.

Obesity, in most cases, is evidence of disability in the decision making parts of the brain.

If someone said to a person "you must carry around 100 bags of sugar with you, wherever you go "people would say "are you crazy" - they then go and pack on 200lbs


Doesn't matter how many calories you consume - AS LONG AS YOU BURN 'EM


Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:25 | 4872122 MeMongo
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No truer words have been spoken logicman. Mongo uses the same analogy every year whilst carrying in the 22lb family turkey. That fuckin rope handle cuts into Mongo's hand like KimKardashians thong cuts into her significant turd cutter!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:52 | 4872209 Anusocracy
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I describe overweightiness of human amoebas as packing 3 lb. cans of Crisco.

She's packing 50 Criscos is she's 150 lbs. overweight.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 08:17 | 4872929 GCT
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Logicalman +1000

 I oftentimes laugh at how complex the medical commmunity and expert talk about being fat. There is no magical pill or procedure if you consume more calories then you expend.  Funny and sad that the simpliest of formulas is always forgotten.  Hell you do not even have to exercise to maintain a good body weight and it has been proven hundreds of times.  Adjust your diet to the calories your body needs and you will maintain your body weight no matter what food you consume.  But then the medical community and the government want fat people to help them make money and maintain control.

95% percent of obesity is nothing complex.  You must burn more calories then you consume to lose wieght and to maintain your weight you must consume enough calories to balance what you burn in calories.  There is no magic cure for it.  Stupid sheeple think stuffing your face with a Big Mac, a large fries, and chasing it with a coke, and then wondering why they burp and pass gas all night only to follow that with a magic stomach pill to cure them.  Duh your system is telling you that crap you just stuffed in your mouth is killing you.   We take better care of our vehicles then we do ourselves.

But look on the bright side they have alot of stored energy when the food chain breaks down.  The only problem is they will not be able to move to scrounge for food. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:39 | 4871970 Crawdaddy
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Gallup = reliable? GTFO. Slow news day, I get it. 

What next? Mark Zandi, a totally not bought off douchebag shill for the rating agencies, says the economy is not fucked up and we can trust .gov? And we are supposed to stand in fucking awe?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:40 | 4871973 NoDecaf
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That guy in the photo probably has a job working one of the 1-900 numbers.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:44 | 4871977 Addibrux
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It's not far fetched indeed...our office is a laugh factory when some long-pig walks out after an interview..

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:19 | 4872099 homiegot
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Long Pig slang term for human flesh prepared as the flesh of a pig. Usually used to sell human flesh to tourists in East Asian countries. Long Pig is best when avoided entirely.
Thu, 06/19/2014 - 04:27 | 4872692 kareninca
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Wow, Addibrux, so you work on the island from the Lord of the Flies?

It'll be a real giggle when you get a form of cancer that requires you take meds that cause you to be fat.  Or when it happens to your mom.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:43 | 4871979 Smegley Wanxalot
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"Hi, this is Gallup.  We have a couple questions. 

. . . 1) are you unemployed?  Yes, how long?  Okay, then

. . . 2) are you a fat ass?

Great, have a nice day!"

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:43 | 4871981 Uber Vandal
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Perhaps the next reason (excuse) will be age.

I vividly recall applying for a job and everyone who was under the age of 40 was grouped on the right, over 40 on the left.

Oddly enough, people over 40 did not seem to get much attention from the HR staff.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:44 | 4871982 Jendrzejczyk
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While I don't always agree with him, I oppose the exploitation of fonestar's likeness and am saddened that Tyler would publish an actual picture of him.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:58 | 4872041 WAMO556
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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:54 | 4872219 RaceToTheBottom
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If that is fonstar, I would hate to see him if he was interested in Fullcoin rather than bitcoin...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:15 | 4872292 gh0atrider
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While I don't always agree with him, I oppose the exploitation of fonestar's likeness and am saddened that Tyler would publish an actual picture of him.


fonestar's PAL looks nothing like that.  He only weighs 165 pounds.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:44 | 4871984 ebworthen
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You get depressed and you eat.

Not much different from people who retire.

We need jobs, not bailouts and QE for Wall Street and part-time $8.25/hour heaven for WalMamerica.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:07 | 4872069 Grande Tetons
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True. Toss in a few six packs to dull the pain...and the next thing you know you are punching new holes in your belt. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:45 | 4871987 Mr. Crisp
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Richard Simmons For Jobs Czar

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:16 | 4872090 homiegot
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He's too gay for the Obamas. There's gay, and then there's gay.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:21 | 4872108 Grande Tetons
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Barry has cum along way. Anything is possible. 

Against gay marriage...for gay married? 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:46 | 4871989 Son of Loki
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I just got back from Walmart and this article does not stun me. Hell, they almost didn't let me in the door because I weighed less then 280 lbs, did not enter via the Wide-Sized Scooter and I did not roll out an Esalade [parked in the handicap zone].

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:57 | 4872231 813kml
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The majority of Americans are disgusting fat bodies whose eyes are glazed over by willful ignorance.  Their instincts tell them that the processed fecal matter they stuff in their mouths isn't fit for human consumption, but they don't know any better because they've been assimilated by corporate propaganda.  It has never been easier to find information on healthy eating but it takes even more energy to cook than to type.

There is no hope for America, time to stick a fork in its bloated sausage casing and let the pink slime ooze out.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 06:41 | 4872767 TBT or not TBT
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Yeah, the federal government provides enormously to the literature on healthy eating.  Michelle cares deeply.  As does big ag and the industries that provide packaged foods and "edible oils".  They paid for decades of research by ambitious researchers working for grant dependent academic departments sensitive to industry and government needs who feed the peer reviewed paper mills.   That's how we got the food.pyramid and "low fat" everything and "healthy whole grains" and "low in cholesterol"  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:48 | 4872000 nmewn
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Where's my fucking check! I have rights!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:52 | 4872015 F22
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The cure for obesity is .......hunger.

Back when unemployment meant starvation....obesity wasn't a problem. People would do any kind of work, under any conditions to earn a wage so that they could eat and feed their families.  The U.S Government has taken away any incentives to work.  Just hang out at home and join the F.S.A. (Free Shit Army)!!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:35 | 4872060 franciscopendergrass
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We should send all the fat people and the FSA to North Korea for re-education.  Problem solved.  Once, welfare checks and food are gone, they will truly appreciate their value.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:09 | 4872421 potato
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As grotesque as overweight people look, they should be left alone. Don't feed the fatties. Cover the eyes of your children if there's a fat person nearby and act insulted that they would offend your eyes with their fat presence.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:54 | 4872021 asscannon101
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This really IS the truth and it is devastating to most people. I was out of work for most of 2013- almost 10 months- and I actually gained 107 pounds during that time. Of course, it was mostly dick-weight and I was OK with it. It was finally proportional to my taintular/scrotal region... Its always been like a couple of coconuts in a burlap sack clonkin' around down there... True story.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:14 | 4872083 erkme73
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taintular... Is that a word? +1

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 03:12 | 4872644 Taint Boil
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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:38 | 4872156 franciscopendergrass
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"Of course, it was mostly dick-weight"  

Dude, you made me laugh and I choked on my dinner. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:57 | 4872035 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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Wanna lose weight Fast, fatfuckers? Do a few stints of H get addicted and then go cold turkey, guaranteed way to lose weight...I promise.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:11 | 4872423 potato
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You have big-pharma-CEO potential

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:58 | 4872036 Kelley
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Obesity and Obama are the twin towers that are collapsing the US.

It should be obvious that the average obese person is more likely to be a liability to a company because the obese person is more likely to have lower energy and a higher risk of illness.

If one is looking for major long term trends that will affect the US, obesity is righ tup there.

As a related topic. the Wall Street Journal reported in Dec. 2012 that 30% of teens are on one OR MORE prescription drugs LONG TERM.

One pill leads to two and two leads to three. It won't be long before 30% of young adults are on 3 drugs or more.

The combination of obesity and drug use is a nation ending disaster coming down the track. In fact, the train is near, not far away.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:59 | 4872040 Milton Waddams
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Truth. The overwhelming majority of individuals I know who are unemployed are FAT. The excuse, pardon, their excuse, is that "good" food is too expensive... so "fast," nasty, carb-sugar-gmo-pinkslime-sawdust-loaded food, it is!... for the same price that they could make themselves a home cooked meal, assuming they used the leftovers. Eugenics, it's what's for dinner!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:09 | 4872073 Shed Boy
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Absolutely, 110% correct. I've quit eating out for the month of June and kept track of EXACTLY how much I spend on food. I can make a healthy meal that includes a vegetable or fruit and nothing fried for half what a burger at my favorite burger joint would cost. Not a chain burger joint a family own/operated better quality/higher price place mind you. $7.50 for fries, drink, big burger. at home, $4. I know I can save half eating 3 meals a day that I make myself.

People are just to damn lazy. Sitting at home with nothing to do but get fat and won't even make themselves a decent meal.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:23 | 4872446 TheMeatTrapper
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I get PAID to catch organic, free range meat for my family. Imagine getting paid to go to the health food store to buy grass fed meat!

Of course - it's HARD WORK. Which is why few do it. 

Learn to Trap Your Food

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 01:38 | 4872557 Harbanger
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A wife that's on the same page as you would make life so much easier for both.  It's a full time job to tend the home and family for healthy living.  That's the one good thing you have to look forward to after the collapse.  Chicks will remember again, "trust me".

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:03 | 4872051 americanspirit
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Obesity "cures", "treatments" and "surgeries" are all ineffective and yet Americans spend $170 Billion a year chasing these ephemeral promises of Pig Pharma and Pig Medicine. There is, however, a simple, safe and effective way to overcome even morbid obesity, without experiencing the hunger, pain, and loss of energy that all these other fake treatments cause you to endure. Unfortunately, in its wisdom, the US government has made this simple, natural, safe and effective treatment illegal.

Interested? This is just my blog - not selling anything.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:29 | 4872458 TheMeatTrapper
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In the 1985 to 1989 time frame I spent a lot of time in Bolivia. I learned to drink Mate de Coca and to chew coca leaves, with a bit of baking soda. I used to shop for my coca leaves in the markets of Santa Cruz and Cochabamba. 

One trip back I brought a plastic bag of one pound of coca leaves home. In Miami, I declared them with Customs. The guy looked at my big plastic bag of coca leaves and asked my why I was bringing them back. "I want my friends to see what it's all about" I said. He waved me through without a care. 

That's how much our country has changed. Can you imagine trying that today?

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 09:11 | 4873150 americanspirit
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Hi MeatTrapper - what a great story. You're right, I can't imagine trying that today. And yet with the "war on drugs" running out of steam, as was inevitable from the beginning, and with increasing numbers of people suffering from raging epidemics of diseases that all the magic pills and fancy machines can't cure, I am trying to point people's attention to what was already well known and empirically proven 150 years ago - pure, natural Coca Leaf brewed as a tea or simply chewed as you did can treat, relieve and even cure diseases and conditions ranging from Asthma to Obesity, from CFS to MS, from Depression to Diabetes, and manybe even such untouchables as Alzheimers. The evidence is all there - thousands of scientists and physicians and millions of people used Coca Leaf to successfully treat a wide range of diseases. And if Americans were allowed full access, and we were able to either 'grow our own' or buy it from certified growers just like Medical Marijuana, then millions of people would start getting healthy without any further need for Pig Pharma.

And on a related note I've just posted an open letter to NASA pointing out that Coca Leaf would make extended space travel immeasurably easier, cheaper, and more productive. I am sitting by the phone holding my breath.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:06 | 4872068 therover
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Was in a take out joint the other day, and a big guy comes in and orders. As I was leaving with my order, he was behind me walking out. When I the walked out of the door, there was a big Ford 350 running parked in the fire lane, 2 feet from the door. The guy gets in, and then proceeds to ride 15 feet to a HANDICAP parking spot in front of the resturant.

At this point, I had to hang around to see if he was going to do what I thought...he waited there until his order was done, and then PULLED BACK INTO THE FIRE LANE to go inside to get it.



Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:20 | 4872097 dirty belly
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That's not lazy.

A friend got married and demanded a divorce after 3 weeks of being married. 

When asked why he wanted a divorvce so soon in the marrage, his reply was:

"She's a lazy slob.  I get up at 3AM to piss in the sink and it's full of dirty dishes."


Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:49 | 4872190 flyingcaveman
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That's some trailer park livin' right there.  No need to go fillin' up the brown water tank with yur piss.

Actually quite practical when you think about it.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:31 | 4872464 TheMeatTrapper
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If a man can't piss off his back deck - he ain't got shit.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 07:13 | 4872803 skipjack
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Piss in the garden, it's good for your vegetables and keeps the critters at bay.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:47 | 4872192 falconflight
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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:08 | 4872071 erkme73
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I've been unemployed for 4 years.  In that time, I've gained about 10 lbs. 


Granted, I John Galted, and voluntarily retired at 37.  I'm 6' @ 190, and 41 y/o.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:17 | 4872093 BobTheSlob
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Wow 6' and Faat bastage!

I'm 110% employed, weigh the same and are at a 4 inch loss.

It's my muscles...see em in my avatar?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:56 | 4872223 kurt
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I may be fat but Gallup is ugly and I can lose weight.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:46 | 4872368 Never One Roach
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"I'm not fat. I'm just too short for my weight."

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:18 | 4872094 BobTheSlob
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Wow 6' and Faat bastage!

I'm 110% employed, weigh the same and are at a 4 inch loss.

It's my muscles...see em in my avatar?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:20 | 4872102 logicalman
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59 years old.

5' 7" Weighed 140 at 16 years old could cycle 100 miles in a day

I now weigh 135 but I can only cycle about 60 miles in a day.

Love to hike - Shoot my bows.

I'll cycle in -45ºC and +45ºC

I always eat well - cook from scratch almost every night.

Being fit takes some effort, but it sure does feel good.


Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:14 | 4872429 potato
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You can't cycle in -45°C.


Your steel balls might freeze to the bike frame.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 02:09 | 4872574 Harbanger
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And even @ an average of 15 MPH, which is high, he was peddling his on bicycle for 7hrs non-stop.  Impressive.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 02:35 | 4872613 Harbanger
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John Galt never retires and it takes a pretty vain chick to worry about gaining 10 pounds in 4 years.  Work with me for 2 days and you'll shit out the 1st 5 pounds when you see what work means.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:15 | 4872088 BobTheSlob
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Wow you all are a bunch of snarky waaaacists. I can totally relate to these losers being a slob myself.


Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:20 | 4872104 MontgomeryScott
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Gallup takes a 'survey'.

People in the CONUS are now complacent (and trained to be this way).

Those who are not working (long-term) have always been here (albeit in much smaller numbers than at present). They used to be called 'welfare-sucking leech maggots'; and certain races religions, and familial profiles were accepted ('no daddy', 'black', 'mexican', 'white trash', 'democrats', 'mormons', 'inbreds', 'cat-licks', 'lazy', and the like).

THOSE who are 'long-term unemployed' USED to be called 'welfare queens'. They have ALWAYS been lazy, and as a consequence, their whole lives have been those of avarice. Oh, yeah, you could spot them because they were usually FAT, and had diseases of the skin and glands (because they just don't give a shit, due to the fact that someone ELSE; they were TRAINED to believe, would pay for their very existence as if it was some kind of 'right').

It is a shame that Gallup has actually decided (after 50 years of the Welfare State) to FINALLY take a 'survey' that confirms that lazy people who have no self-respect and are not willing to work are actually FAT; and too STUPID and LAZY to EAT correctly; much less pay enough attention to the world around them to even CARE to LEARN how to do basic tasks (like boil water in their homes, or learn to read).

The microwave bell just went off, and my corn-dogs are done. I have to change the channel now, because the World Cup Soccer game is on. DAMN, you guys are making me WORK REALLY HARD! I'm so exhausted...

(Can you get the dip from the fridge? I HATE Fritos without Cheeze Dip! I'd do it myself, but you KNOW how hard it is for me to even sit up, much less stand...)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:22 | 4872106 AdvancingTime
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Even without injuries, people that suffer from obesity have drastically reduced mobility. Carrying around a large amount of extra bulk, they are almost always out of breath, unable to bend, put their shoes on, get out of a chair, or walk unaided for more than a few paces.

Climbing stairs is often out of the question for the massively overweight, and obesity on such a scale can also cause breathing problems while sleeping. Obesity occurs over a period of time, is hard to combat, the bottom line, it detracts from the quality of life and there is no fun in being truly fat.

I'm not particularly interested in saving the obese from themselves but I'm very concerned about the costs that the obese impose on others through higher health insurance rates, and for the taxpayers who pay for Medicaid, Medicare, and social security disability benefits.  More on the cost of this growing problem in the article below.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:41 | 4872132 FredFlintstone
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Why do fat people often drive really, really small cars? It is either very new subcompacts or very old, giant vehicles. Either a shiny Ford Fiesta or an ancient Buick Roadmaster.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:43 | 4872176 flyingcaveman
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because poor. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:06 | 4872269 edifice
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It's the Clown Effect. Like, a bunch of clowns getting out of a clown car, except it's one person. I like to sit and watch them wiggle out of the car, after parking.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:49 | 4872374 Never One Roach
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The "Clown Effect?"


Too funny!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:36 | 4872147 sondernauch
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The destruction of real American society, I believe, has caused many millions of people to be very depressed and lonely. I think that's one big reason people overeat and don't exercise. Losing your job is the topper. Many feel then that they are left with two choices: take a bullet (or an overdose), or eat a box of corn flakes.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:37 | 4872152 Dingleberry
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I once read a quote from an immigrant when asked why he came to the States:

"I want to live where the poor people are fat".


See you at the buffet, bitchez!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:38 | 4872154 GrinandBearit
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I was unemployed many years... I worked out harder and more frequently... I became more muscular while losing fat at the same time.

Lazy fatties.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:44 | 4872177 Government need...
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This is the setup for explaining how soaring food prices are good for us.  Cuz it will help Americans lose weight and become healthier.  Oh, and Obamacare will supervise your caloric intake, or you pay the new 'fat tax'.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:20 | 4872307 MeBizarro
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Wrong and the exact OPPOSITE happens when food prices increase especially protein sources (chicken, fish, beef, eggs) go up in price and people substitute it for cheaper, processed bulk carbohydrates. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:46 | 4872186 Ban KKiller
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Our rendering plant now accepts people. We render to biodiesel as you guessed. Your fat ass aunt is worth a gallon of bio so bring her down at her demise. It took forever to get this approved, until now, when the govt also buys corpses...for various uses. No doubt they render the obese also.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:52 | 4872204 Government need...
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Someday soon, we're going to re-read this article and laugh hysterically, right before we crack open a 12-oz can of mighty-dog, the can we've saved for that special celebration.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 22:53 | 4872213 kurt
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"Are you unemployed?"

No I'm big boned.




Statistically, Gallup is an asshole!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 23:18 | 4872302 MeBizarro
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"A 2009 study of Pennsylvania workers laid off in the 1970s and 1980s found that even 20 years later, these workers were 10% to 15% more likely to die in a given year than those who had not suffered a job loss."

The classic case of where someone who knows little/nothing about medical evidence thinks it is meaningful because they don't understand 'Relative Risk' and what the 10%-15% difference actually means.  

As for this study, I would be much more interested to know long-term unemployment vs morbidly obese rates.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:04 | 4872407 QEsucks
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The condition of high cholesterol has very little correlation to obesity or the composition of the diet- % saturated fat. This is mainly heredity- hence familial hyperlipidemia.

No need to baffle us with Gallup bullshit.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:06 | 4872411 potato
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People are too stupid to put 2 and 2 together and realize that it is high doses of sugar — not fat — which contribute to weight gain (via insulin response, particularly when muscles are already full of glycogen).

Dietary fat is not correlated with non-lean-tissue weight gain. 

Dietary cholesterol, too, is not correlated with blood cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol gets burned. Blood cholesterol is correlated with sodium intake.

"Empty calories" is another bullshit term. Calories are calories, and as long as one consumes enough vitamins and minerals, the source of calories is irrelevant. Eat fat to feel satiated and to help you consume fewer calories overall.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:07 | 4872416 MedicalQuack
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Ok I think we all say yes we maybe put on a few pounds when not working but not all of us get obese.  Yes if you are over 50 companies do run risk assessments if they are giving you benefits, it happens.  I do know that for a fact been there done that.  There's a lot of junk science in the HR departments out there.

The problem is discrimination and the "Scoring of America" as the World Privacy forum stated.  It works right along with data selling, the epidemic in the US, which is all about money and some proprietary formula to keep you out if you will.

Here's another example of how FICO also had a medication compliance score they use and this should be banned.  All they need is your name and address and they can score you from zero to 500 on whether or not you will take your medications too.  This score is sold to insurance and pharma companies...nice huh?

This is real reason I think with making money off scoring Americans and we are just stat rat world anymore.  There are plenty too who are NOT fat either but rather just over 50 and nobody wants to give benefits as it costs money. 


Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:17 | 4872434 potato
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Problem is somehow benefits and health insurance got married to employment.

Just give me money for my work and I'll buy the services I want. Stupidest thing ever. And spousal benefits??? wtf!!

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