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Iraq Formally Asks 'Reluctant' US For Airstrikes Against Jihadists

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Despite the White House seeming reluctance to see airstrikes as an imminent option (as AP reports, in part because there are few clear targets that U.S. could hit, officials said), Arabiya TV - citing Iraq's Foreign Minister Zarabi, has asked for help (seemingly triggered by ISIS attacks on the Baiji refinery):

  • *IRAQ ASKED U.S. FOR AIRSTRIKES AGAINST MILITANTS: ARABIYA
  • *IRAQ ASKED US TO GO AHEAD W/ AIR STRIKES AGAINST JIHADISTS: AFP

This has now been confirmed by the BBC reporting that Gen. Martin Dempsey confirms the request. So 275 boots on the ground are not boots on the ground and now the US will reluctantly but pin-pointedly accurately bomb the bad guys (and some good guys) in Iraq... how has that ended in the past?



As BBC reports,

Iraq has formally called on the United States to launch air strikes against jihadist militants who have seized several key cities.

 

"We have a request from the Iraqi government for air power," confirmed top US military commander Gen Martin Dempsey.

 

The announcement came after insurgents launched an attack on Iraq's biggest oil refinery north of Baghdad.

As AP reported yesterday,

President Barack Obama has shifted his focus away from airstrikes in Iraq as an imminent option for slowing a fast-moving Islamic insurgency, in part because there are few clear targets that U.S. could hit, officials said.

 

Officials said Obama has made no final decisions and could ultimately approve limited strikes if stronger targets emerge. The CIA and other spy agencies are scrambling to close intelligence gaps in the region and track the movements of key figures in the militant group known as the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, which seized Mosul, Tikrit and other towns in Iraq as the country's military melted away. 

 

"It's time for the Iraqis to resolve it themselves," said Reid

As WaPo adds, the Pentagon's top leaders testified Wednesday that a U.S. campaign of airstrikes in Iraq would be fraught with complications, both political and military, and suggested that a rush to take such action could backfire.

Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the Iraqi government has requested that Washington provide "air power" as it tries to take back territory seized in recent weeks by fighters from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and other insurgents.

 

Dempsey told a panel from the Senate Appropriations Committee that the Obama administration was still weighing how to respond. But he emphasized that airstrikes would be extremely complicated. "It's not as easy as looking at an iPhone video of a convoy and then immediately striking," he said.

 

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"There is very little that — that could have been done to overcome the degree to which the government of Iraq had failed its people. That's what has caused this problem," Dempsey said. "This has not broken down entirely on sectarian lines, but it could."

 

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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:42 | 4869814 kowalli
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first

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:45 | 4869833 Overfed
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A good top post would be "Krugman just came in his pants!"  Newbie.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:50 | 4869877 kowalli
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ok,next time=)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:27 | 4870080 0b1knob
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Unpopular presidents like to start wars and then wrap themselves in the flag.  Fortunately that's not a problem with Dear Leader Obama.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:02 | 4870235 COSMOS
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Why would the USA do a strike against the very people its supporting.  I saw a pic on daily mail and all those ISIS guys guarding the main dude were equipped with M16s, pretty obvious who is feeding the Sunni war machine..

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:06 | 4870250 fallout11
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The english-friendly name (like Cobra or Hydra), ballcaps, sunglasses, t-shirts, rifles held at low ready, obviously freshly dyed hair and beards, new F-350 pickup trucks, and similar were also good tells.  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:13 | 4870313 Joe Davola
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I believe in America.  America has made my fortune. - Foreign Minister Zarabi

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:27 | 4870384 quasimodo
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Supplying them with all those vehicles should help alleviate the channel stuffing

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:13 | 4870310 Freddie
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ISIS good for continued M-16/M4 sales.  Some of these guys look a lot like Blackwater, Xe, Mi6, Al See EYe Aye duh.  They look like guys at the Boston bombing and Sandy Hook too,

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:33 | 4870423 manofthenorth
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Standard US Military operating procedure;

S.N.A.F.U. ( Situation Normal All Fucked Up )

It is like watching a bad B movie where you know how it turns out but you can not leave the theater.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:24 | 4870679 Winston Smith 2009
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"Why would the USA do a strike against the very people its supporting.  I saw a pic on daily mail and all those ISIS guys guarding the main dude were equipped with M16s, pretty obvious who is feeding the Sunni war machine."

Besides the huge caches of arms (including M16s) ISIS has captured from fleeing ARVN, er, I mean Iraqi Army troops and their bases? Not saying the US isn't arming them in Syria, but there are plenty of captured M16s in Iraq.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 16:42 | 4871039 0b1knob
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Iraqi army war surplus M-16.  Slightly used.

Never fired.   Only dropped once.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:58 | 4869916 pelican
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I guess my 800 dollar a year raise will go to paying for more cruise missiles.... that were once million dollars a pop 20 years ago.

 

At least they don't have Manpads... oh, they do?

 

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:01 | 4869948 McMolotov
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Krugman needs manpads for all his Keynesian spoo. Hey-o!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:56 | 4869918 All is chosen
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The definitive zh universal post has been created at last.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:53 | 4869895 Dr. Engali
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Airstrikes should be good to help Toyota's sales anyway. See I'm always looking for the brightside of human suffering.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:54 | 4869902 Overfed
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Also a fine lead in to the commentary. ;-)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:07 | 4870271 fallout11
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Mmm, more broken windows.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:06 | 4869974 tonyw
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"how has that ended in the past?"

the point is not to end it but keep perpetual war, that way the MIC is assured of perpetual income.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:11 | 4869987 CrashisOptimistic
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It's not real easy to bomb people out of a refinery.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:40 | 4870477 Kirk2NCC1701
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Doc, and w/o the need for a ToyotaCare Warranty (2 yrs free Service), the purchase costs should be even lower.

Either that or Toyota's profit margins will be higher.  ;-)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:16 | 4870023 Canadian Dirtlump
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Well, general dempsey, the Syrian Air Force has bombed some convoys with vietnam era mig 21s ( and also su 25s and mig 29s ) so what is your excuse? These guys will trip over themselves to run to a microphone to brag about the abilities of the US military, but then pretend that they can't see a fucking convoy of trucks with 23mm machine guns driving through a DESERT?

 

Your excuse is youu guys don't want Maliki there anymore. Hitlery gave the kiss of death yesterday - Maliki must go.

http://time.com/2892052/hillary-maliki-must-go/

 

If the US wanted ISIS gone those convoys would have been twisted hulks already. They didn't get ISIS going in Syria only to kill them in Iraq. BArring political outrage and pressure, they don't seem keen on doing anything but rooting for ISIS quietly.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:07 | 4870173 Urban Redneck
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Barry & Gen Dipshit would look even more like little dogs (or human fire plugs) if Russia (which has plenty of aircraft and laser guided bombs ready to go) and Iran (which has boots on ground in Iraq now and can identify targets) decided to team up in an effort to boost Russian arms exports and send a not-so-subtle message to the Ukeys...

(and since the Iranians could simply rebrand "friendly fire" accidents as "martyr manufacturing" there really is no down side)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:19 | 4870348 Freddie
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I really like the Syrians.   They have a lot of guts. Americans and the US Military just let the scum take over America like cowards.

http://www.syrianperspective.com/2014/06/the-iraqi-mess-is-obamas-waterl...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:17 | 4870651 Canadian Dirtlump
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Ziad is an international treasure for his reporting. I am on that site every day and have been for over a year.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:40 | 4870479 Freddie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDSiwqM2nw

Pierre Sprey talking about how the Mig 21 is better than the F-35.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:28 | 4870696 Winston Smith 2009
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"These guys will trip over themselves to run to a microphone to brag about the abilities of the US military, but then pretend that they can't see a fucking convoy of trucks with 23mm machine guns driving through a DESERT?"

Oh, you mean the ones ISIS captured from the Iraqi Army which look just like the equipment the Iraqi Army will be using (once they stop running) against ISIS?

"Friendly fire" incidents will be numerous.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 16:37 | 4871002 Canadian Dirtlump
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One, the iraqi army typically doesn't travel in long convoys of civilian trucks flying black flags with 23mm cannons on them, originating from the wilds of the desert from syria.

Two, the military has the abliity to communicate with radios.

So no. Not the ones they stole from the irqi army. The ones they drove in on, built in Turkey with saudi money when the west was training them.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:55 | 4870207 rubiconsolutions
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At some point in time this nonsense will come to these shores. Until that happens the American people will sit passively by as they gleefully dispatch their children off to drop bombs and pull triggers. They don't care because for them it isn't personal, it's just some video game played out on their wizbang new plasma television. Most people have bought into the notion that America is "exceptional" and must be the purveyor of democracy throughout the world while being totally oblivious to the fact that it has failed at home. While I wasn't a huge fan of his policies John Kennedy hit the nail squarely on the head when he said - “War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today.”

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:12 | 4870634 Berspankme
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Sure glad they are getting that great military strategist Harry Reid involved

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:43 | 4869820 alien-IQ
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watch the market go fucking parabolic on this news.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:54 | 4869909 Freddie
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The CIA and other spy agencies are scrambling to close intelligence gaps in the region and track the movements of key figures.

Just call Johnny McCain and Lindsey Graham - they have ISIS cell numbers.  Maybe McCain can do a shout out Tweet to them.  They may be too busy beaheading some poor helpless person.

ISIS is Saudi Arabia, USA, UK, Israel, Turkey, Jordan and other Gulf States.

Someday the House of Saud will pay the piper.  Hopefully Putin with rip Prince Bandhar Bush's testicles off.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:43 | 4869821 El Vaquero
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:53 | 4869903 agent default
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Vietnam was just a run of the mill fuck up.  This will be Royal.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:08 | 4869986 kchrisc
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"Vietnam was just a run of the mill fuck up.  This will be Royal."

Vietnam was lost. They won in Iraq, "Mission Accomplished," and still lost. LOL

However the MIC and banksters won in both cases, which was all that really mattered to them in the first place.

 

“I have a “Mission Accomplished” banner on my guillotine.”

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:43 | 4869825 nuclearsquid
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on this site, its better to be the first with a witty comment

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:45 | 4869828 slaughterer
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He is a turdite, they make their own rules wherever they go.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:45 | 4869835 alien-IQ
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"brevity is the soul of wit"

Shakespeare

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:42 | 4870485 Kirk2NCC1701
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But Goethe made it rhyme: "In der Kürze liegt die Würze"

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:47 | 4869830 carbonmutant
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Accuracy improves with practice... like beta testing before you release it on the public

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:45 | 4869832 101 years and c...
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reluctant, my ass.  obama loves killing people.  as all sociopaths do.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:49 | 4869862 Soda Popinski
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Barry's not as much into killing his fellow Sunnis.  Must destroy the apostate shi'a.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:46 | 4869838 BobTheSlob
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Can't the effing world do ANYTHING without US involvement. How difficult can it be to blow up a bunch of Allah Snackbarring idiots in pickup trucks?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:04 | 4869962 Zadok
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Snackbar? Please explain, thanks.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:07 | 4869982 BobTheSlob
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Snackbar...Akbar...at this point, what difference does it make?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:10 | 4869991 tonyw
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Allah Snackbar, it's what they call out when they get a bit exciteable, perhaps they get a bit hungry when shooting the air :-)

 

How difficult can it be? well quite difficult when you've dropped your guns and run away.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:51 | 4870197 Bemused Observer
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Ha, that 'shooting into the air' thing sure strikes us here in the US as hostile...but over there they do it at weddings and other happy celebratory occasions...

"A bunch of towel-heads firing automatic weapons...they're jihadis, bomb them!"..."Wait, no...it's just a happy send-off to Layla and Ahmed...never mind."

We really have NO clue how to deal with these folks, we just refuse to understand that they aren't all just pupal-Americans who only need some gentle encouragement to be born. And when we leave, and they revert to all their old ways, we wonder what's wrong with them...why are they rejecting our obviously superior ways?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:09 | 4870290 espirit
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Warning shots into the air here are 3rd degree felonies, over there it's just warming up.

Long 7.62x39 Russian.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:06 | 4870265 Boozer
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When they scream, "Allah hu akbar" it sounds like Allan's snackbar.

Hope that clears things up for you Zadok.

I believe a fellow ZHer coined/noted this a year or so ago.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:41 | 4870147 Bemused Observer
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We've been watching too many Hollywood movies here...as the woman in the Esurance commercials says, "That's not how it works...that's not how any of this works!"

It's like when people say "Why couldn't the cop have just shot the gun out of his hand?" It looks so easy on TV, but anyone with actual shooting experience would tell you it is NOT.
Targeted airstrikes from thousands of feet up are just as difficult. Not just the implementation, but the targeting to begin with. You CAN hit that large group of people if you want, but you have no way of being sure it isn't a wedding party instead of a jihadi gathering. You are depending on intelligence to tell you, and what is the track record there?
I think that one of the reasons we here in America ARE so gung-ho over war is Hollywood...they only show us the heroic, over-the-top action-hero stuff. We come to think these things ARE possible, and that we can successfully do them. And others around the world, who HAVE had to step over corpses in their streets, and have had their own cities bombed into rubble, look at us like we were completely bonkers.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:16 | 4870327 espirit
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Didn't the DoD recently solicite a bid for recognition software?

Seems to me 1 1/2 times forward of altitude to recognize armed combatants.

Circle the drones round the old oil field

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:40 | 4870448 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Targeted airstrikes from thousands of feet up are just as difficult. Not just the implementation, but the targeting to begin with. You CAN hit that large group of people if you want, but you have no way of being sure it isn't a wedding party instead of a jihadi gathering.

Nor do they care, in the main the targets aren't identified visually as a primary means. As long as that identification is made collateral damage don't really matter when you control the flow of information into the matrix shielding the people from what you are really doing. Then afterwards they may double tap a target when the next round shows up to survey the damage (which is highly illegal...).

The sad thing is the DOD drone joystick jockeys in the military in most cases have no idea who they are really killing and when they find out they tend commit suicide over it. There was an informative article on this concerning the higher than average rate of suicides of drone operators vs other members of the military.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:47 | 4870510 Freddie
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Maybe someone should tell the cowards at the Pentagon or intel agencies that ISIS is like a Muslim roadshow wedding.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:48 | 4870513 Harbanger
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"higher than average rate of suicides of drone operators vs other members of the military."

 

Drone operators also have access to more real time information.

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:46 | 4869839 border dog
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Goats milk is better when warm...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:47 | 4869850 Meat Hammer
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So does this mean all of the pickup trucks with MITT bumper stickers are suddenly going to have Obama - Biden ones?  I mean, come on, if we're being real here.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:47 | 4869855 slaughterer
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Taper & Airstrikes.  What a way to end the quarter.  Time to buy TSLA/PCLN/NFLX/AAPL hand over fist. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:47 | 4869857 Grande Tetons
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"It's time for the Iraqis to resolve it themselves....unless there is a sign of an endangered turtle" said Reid

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:55 | 4870206 luckylogger
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Best comment ever. 100000000000000 up arrows deserved!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:47 | 4870509 Kirk2NCC1701
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There will be NO significant or timely help forthcoming from the DOD.  They're not gonna bomb/drone the boys from Langley, or their contractors.

All this does, is to expose the duplicity of Obama and the US, for all the world to see.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:48 | 4869858 Kaiser Sousa
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puppet to puppet masters...

"HELP ME- PLEASE!"

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:48 | 4869860 youngman
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The first shot down pilot wins....we will trade him for 20 terrorists

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:53 | 4869898 slaughterer
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... you mean we will trade him for 20 shares of TSLA and some MBERs. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:48 | 4869864 Dr. Engali
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We have created one big clusterfuck over there that will haunt us for years.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:50 | 4869879 alien-IQ
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that was the plan.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:59 | 4869934 Freddie
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The plan now is to weaken Iran with ISIS plus probably keep Syria in play.  Hopefully Iran, Iraq, Syria and the Kurds will smash ISIS.

http://www.syrianperspective.com/2014/06/the-iraqi-mess-is-obamas-waterl...

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/06/18/the-isis-fiasco-its-really-an-att...

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:55 | 4869913 Overfed
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We're going on decades.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:54 | 4870092 Dr. Engali
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I think this mess is much worse than all of the MIC's destabilization efforts in the past. Previous messes have always been contained, I don't think that will be the case today.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 16:03 | 4870867 Overfed
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I'm with ya' there. It feels to me like the CIA/Mossad/et. al. destabilization programs are spinning completely out of control at a very high rate of speed.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:05 | 4869963 thamnosma
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Well, it had returned to a slow simmer until Oboe and his Saudi pals (remember the bow?) decided to destroy Libya and Syria as nation-states.  Nothing like stirring the pot again....now it has truly morphed into a region-wide clusterfuck.

Looking forward to the Taliban back in control as well by 2015.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:50 | 4869872 kellycriterion
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When various western players(especially in France and Germany)were conspiring with Saddam to loot the oil wealth of Iraq, Clinton had no problem with airstrikes to punish Saddam for violations of the embargo. But now it's all mystery.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:49 | 4869873 SHEEPFUKKER
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  • *IRAQ ASKED US TO GO AHEAD W/ AIR STRIKES AGAINST JIHADISTS: AFP

So the spin will be U.S. forces will not provide air strikes in Iraq but rather performing live training drills in Iraq.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:51 | 4869884 rtalcott
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President Barack Obama has shifted his focus away from airstrikes in Iraq as an imminent option for slowing a fast-moving Islamic insurgency, in part because there are few clear targets that U.S. could hit, officials said.

 

The above never stopped any air or drone strikes before...why now?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:01 | 4869949 thamnosma
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I believe his focus is now firmly on the 10th hole pin.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:02 | 4869953 Freddie
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Obama is too busy with the invasion of America.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:06 | 4869970 BobTheSlob
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If it's riding a camel, kill it.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:53 | 4869896 NYPoke
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So, do we bomb Karma or don't we?

 

Seems like a really, really bad idea...like maybe that is where everything went wrong the FIRST time we went in.  Never mess with Karma.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:54 | 4869900 All is chosen
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AIR STRIKES AGAINST JIHADISTS:

Which (non-London) British cities do you have in mind please?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:02 | 4869924 SpanishGoop
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Bomb those oil refineries to hell, that will teach them.

O wait...

Who would think that Iraq would ask te be bombed by the US seeing the last experience they had.

 

 

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:59 | 4869938 thamnosma
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For argument's sake and putting aside whether ISIS is a US tool, what strategic effect would airstrikes have on such a decentralized movement?  There is no central government to overthrow, no facilities to destroy without inflaming the non-ISIS Sunnis to join in an all out sectarian conflict.  So does Maliki want the US to bomb Mosul?  At this point the US would be clearly siding with one faction over another, not "reuniting" Iraq.   In fact, that's over.  Iraq is humpty dumpty and it's fallen off the wall.

Of course, airstrikes would spread more chaos which does seem the goal of the Obama Regime from the beginning in terms of the Arab world.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:02 | 4869950 tuttisaluti
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They are surprised and not prepared at all. No marked targets.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:03 | 4869956 kchrisc
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Let's see if CIA-Obama will bomb the CIA's "terrorists."

Pass the popcorn and Twizzlers.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:05 | 4869966 thamnosma
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Fucking Redskins.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:06 | 4869976 the not so migh...
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We get to see if they the al-quaida, ISIS, whatever have stingers

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:08 | 4869985 thamnosma
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Hell, why would they even be limited to using them in that theater?   Those stingers are quite portable.  Spread some chaos elsewhere.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:09 | 4869993 22winmag
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This makes the America's 1975 evacuation from Saigon look dignified.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:10 | 4869995 disabledvet
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"Fallujah."

We've already done this before. Forget just "these people do their homework." These folks are where they are now because they were there just a few years ago.

There is nothing "good" about any of this...but these ISIS clowns are almost too good to be true.

I really don't think you want to be a Sunni right now. Or in Tikrit.

I think Saddam Hussein's hometown might be a thing of the past here shortly. We'll see what comes rolling out of Big Baghdaddy here I guess.

As a New Yorker there is no way I can't see Suadi Arabia as anything other than the enemy here. That would include even if the whole 9/11 attack was a "contrivance" of some sort.

These oil phuckers have phucked everybody. "Hit 'em and hit 'em hard."
Freedom! Democracy! AND STUFF!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:18 | 4870030 Schmuck Raker
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"The CIA and other spy agencies are scrambling to close intelligence gaps...."

Is it Budget Negotiation Time again, already?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:30 | 4870046 joego1
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Oblama is really in a pickle now. How can he bomb the ISIS camp if it is the child of his oil masters in Saudi Arabia?  The other option of cooperating with Iran would most certainly have Israel hopping mad. It looks like his hands are tied and it's time for another few rounds of golf.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:23 | 4870053 Bemused Observer
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And who gets to identify the targets of these airstrikes? The West, who couldn't locate their own assholes with both hands, a flashlight and a map?
Or the "Iraqi government" who might, just MIGHT, see us as a great way to get rid of domestic enemies on someone else's dime? AND we would then conveniently be the ones to blame when things go horribly wrong...
So when the inevitable busload of schoolchildren gets taken out by a US airstrike, Maliki can tell his people, "It was America that did it, not me."

Cue the Arab street riots, and the dragging of US corpses through the streets...and keep telling yourselves they hate us for our freedoms...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:27 | 4870078 joego1
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Maybe they can target that missing IRS disk drive while they are at it.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:26 | 4870075 RmcAZ
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The whole idea of any air strikes against these guys is just stupid. Just the fact that these guys are in random heavily populated areas would make it nearly impossible to bomb any of them without killing at least 2x the number of civilians. Although, that hasn't stopped the US Military before.

One does not simply fly drones over, identify, and bomb. There would have to be thousands of boots on the ground in order to correlate positions to give air strikes any sort of remote accuracy.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:28 | 4870087 joego1
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It never seemed to stop them in Iraq war I & II.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:42 | 4870152 ydderf1950
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more dead innocent towelheads  

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:28 | 4870082 orangegeek
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And so now Lockheed Martin gets to test their drone technology on live targets.

 

So what if it's a bunch of nuts running around in bed sheets carrying machine guns.  They'll do just fine.

 

The trick, of course, is to keep the infrastructure intact.  No blood splatters in the walls.

 

This is such a gong show.  2000 goofs with weapons that were handed to them by the country that is going to erase them.

 

Fuck this world is getting surreal.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:47 | 4870177 teslaberry
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we should nuke bag-dad and start a genocide against the shia. all of iraq should be sunni saudi arabia.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:48 | 4870182 cougar_w
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Does Iraq still have oil?

US foreign policy in a nutshell.

And since the answer is yes they do  we'll end up bombing the fuck out of those people, I don't care what anyone thinks about it. And no actually the deaths of American soldiers and Iraqi civilians do not enter into it, ever.

Oil.

OIL OIL OIL OIL.

GET THE OIL GET IT RIGHT NOW.

GET ALL THE FUCKING OIL ALL THE FUCKING TIME FUCKERS WHO THE FUCK ISN'T GETTING THIS PART JEEZUZ FUCKING CHRIST.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:56 | 4870212 I Write Code
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The Saudies apparently say no, so Obumble has apparently said no.

I'm fine with that, actually, bombs cost money.

Though, if we were going to bomb anything, I'd recommend we supersize it, and yet Obumble's excuse is that there might be civilians too close to the targets.  Well then, end of story I guess.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:58 | 4870220 Jack Burton
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"Kiev Formally asks a "reluctant" US for airstrikes on terrorists"

Is the only thing holding a "reluctant" America back on this one the fact that the USA will be splatering white people's blood and body parts all over the place? This has not stopped Kiev Air Craft, so why should the so called "reluctant" US not step in and help in Kiev's war on terror.

No, I know what you are thinking. But consider the question in all seriousness. What makes Ethinc Russian terrorists any different that Iraqi terrorists. Besides skin color? The majority of US puppet states agree with Kiev that ethnic Russians living on their land and in their cities of East Ukraine are terrorists. Why will the US bomb Iraq, but not East Ukraine?

I mean besides many hundreds of nuclear ICBMs, SLICBM's and nuclear submarine carried nuclear cruise missiles.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:05 | 4870245 MarsInScorpio
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1) What happens when those Stingers take down US aircraft? Why else do you think that no one is launching air raids on ISIS?

 

2) Where is the highly vaunted Iranian AF and Republican Guards (in sufficient numbers to actually make a difference?)

 

3) So SA doesn’t want the Iranians in Iraq; so what? Who is going to stop them?

 

4) ISIS is Frankenstein. Nobody can control them. They are at a point where they are self-sufficient (putting out annual reports . . . think about that.)

 

5) The Shia have no choice but to pile up on ISIS as a matter of survival. We are talking about a murderous fight going on over 1,400 years – and it’s obvious ISIS sees this as the opportunity to execute a “Final Solution” to the Shia problem.

 

6) It’s too late to divide Iraq up into 3 parts. Too much blood, hate, and desire for vengeance.

 

7) Obama will use the “lack of clear targets” excuse to do nothing – a repeat of his voting “Present” when he was an Illinois state senator.

 

There are times when you can’t do anything about the problems you created in your life – they overwhelm you. Such is what we have now.

 

The Congress is terrified of the Black Racists, and that is the real reason they won’t do anything to Obama. He has a free hand to do whatever he wants to do and nobody is going to do anything about it.

 

I find it funny the way that so many think Obama is a complete idiot. Tell me, if you have impunity to do whatever you want to do – and all your opponents can do is spit and sputter about it – who is the real idiot . . . ?

-30-

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:45 | 4870496 kellycriterion
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The Axis of Evil(US, Israel, KSA)may be having more problems with proxies and mercs than we can know.

1. Egypt. We can skip the details because it can't inspire confidence in anyone.
2. Libya. Someone was left holding the bag. I'm confident the original deal wasn't start the revolution, we provide airstrikes to knock out Quadafi's air and armor, then you get to duke it out with every Tom, Dick, and tribal leader in the country.
3. Syria. ISIS is doing the dirty work and taking casualties, then the US caves on the airstrikes. I'd be hopping mad.

Did ISIS perchance arm themselves with blackmail amterial just in case? Cynical I know. Could they have demanded weapons more recent and sophisticated than Stingers?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:22 | 4870368 stopthejunk1
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Last time I checked, we butchered an awful lot of white people in WW2.  Your comment makes no sense.

 

Also, the comparison between ISIS and the Russian separatists, who have massive popular support, is absurd.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:07 | 4870275 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Despite the White House seeming reluctance to see airstrikes as an imminent option (as AP reports, in part because there are few clear targets that U.S. could hit, officials said),

What a bunch of horseshit. There was plenty of clear targets while they were marching in. As 'lightning' fast they moved, the drones and planes in the are are moar lightning fasterer than guys traveling through a desert with no cover. Like they give a shit about targeting civilians, how many civilians have been targeted in airstrikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan? That is rhetorical.

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:10 | 4870294 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They were ALLOWED to move into Iraq by Obama's military and raid a Central Bank of 400 million dollars. The MIC complex and everyone is salivating at getting a cut of that payday selling them everything under the sun. There won't be any costs, frozen bank accounts or other anti-terrorism money laundering tactics used by the financial institutions to stop any of this.

 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:35 | 4870728 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And most importantly those ISIS vehicles in those convoys display ISIS identification that can be viewed FROM ABOVE, not from the side or the front....

Plus the ISIS has no air support and they are moving in areas with no cover. You put one and one together if Obama's military patrols the airspace and they were moving that brazenly without any fear of missiles raining down on them against a supposed ally of America. Apparently Obama's military is not playing for team America now is it.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:19 | 4870343 stopthejunk1
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If a Roman legion deserted their posts, they'd be decimated: every tenth man would be executed.

It is appalling that the Iraqis did not stand and fight.  In fact it is mind-boggling.  Someone must have been paid a lot of money to tell them to give up their country without a fight.  

Are there any men left in Iraq?

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:28 | 4870386 Farmer Joe in B...
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Pussies don't like dicks because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes. Assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck a asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves. Because pussies are a inch and half away from assholes. I don't know much about this crazy crazy world, but I do know this. If you don't let us fuck this asshole we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:28 | 4870387 Farmer Joe in B...
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Pussies don't like dicks because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes. Assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck a asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate. And it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves. Because pussies are a inch and half away from assholes. I don't know much about this crazy crazy world, but I do know this. If you don't let us fuck this asshole we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:52 | 4870534 Kirk2NCC1701
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Recall "Note whom you're not allowed to criticize and you'll find out who rules you."?

Well... "Note who is NOT being attacked or threatened, and you'll know who's the Symphony and who's the Conductor" - Kirk.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:00 | 4870584 kellycriterion
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A hilarious aspect to this is, that the political class think they are "getting away with it". The lies, the contradictions, the unconnected dots, are becoming more outrageous and there's no official accountability.

That's the trivial perspective. But all the corruption, the scheming, the lies, the betraying, the illusions that must be maintained(even for shorter periods)constrict their actions in ways that are partly or mostly self destructive.

Think of it, your government can't act on legitimate questions of self defense or promoting the general welfare without great or mostly self destructive coefficient added.

WINNING!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:16 | 4870649 Duffy
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Why hasn't Obama been impeached?  Because he's the first black prez {most of all} or what?

The broken promises, the lies, the scandals - he's well beyond Nixon now. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:18 | 4870654 Stumpy4516
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Iraq has to see that ISIS is sponsored by CIA/SA/Israel and they mean to use the ISIS to take over the country.  The ISIS will be puppets.

Iraq's best hope is to turn to Russia and ask for military aid.  At this point, since the US and SA have publicly pretended they are against the ISIS, Iraq should ask for Russia to use one of the air fields and to begin air strikes.  Iraq should bring in the Russians politically and economically, including making Russia their partner/contractor of choice for the oil field business.  Once that is solid then stop trading in dollars.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 16:57 | 4871084 esum
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sorry got a round to get in and some slush fund raising... later

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 17:23 | 4871160 DonGenaro
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since when are junkies "relunctant" to take another hit ?

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 00:29 | 4872456 litemine
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Seems many Leaders will call on the USA for Air Stikes. Why? They are Scared.    They all have Central Banks.

Truth Hurts.

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