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The Most Destructive Presidencies In American History, Part 2: The Fatal Incoherence Of Bush/Obama Foreign Policy

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

The tragic reality is the Bush II/Obama administrations have made the world a far more dangerous place.

A great many rationales have been floated for the most destructive foreign policy in American history, i.e. the fatally incoherent policies of the Bush II/Obama presidencies.

These rationales come in several flavors:

1. The official administration (public relations) rationales

2. The not-so-secret rationales of Empire and realpolitik

3. Conspiracy-type rationales proposed by outsiders

The official rationale has two basic variations:

1. The (now repudiated) Neoconservative agenda of remaking the world in our image (i.e. neoliberal democracy) with military force and nation-building.

2. The longstanding policy of hemming in hostile ideologies and empires with alliances, mutually beneficial trade arrangements and the threat of overwhelming military response to any over-reach by hostile nation-states and/or alliances.

The unspoken goal of maintaining U.S. military, diplomatic, economic and cultural dominance is the not-so-secret rationale of Global Empire. From the point of view ofrealpolitik, the official rationales serve as the PR facades of Empire.

Realpolitik is the unspoken underbelly of both official rationales: the essence ofrealpolitik is the ends justify the means: if we have to kiss up to psychopathic dictators, kleptocrats, brutal juntas, extremist groups, unsavory guns-for-hire and even regimes that are visibly hostile to American values and dominance to reach operational goals (for example kill the bad guys), so be it: we will do anything necessary to further our short-term operational goals.

The problem with this kind of short-term thinking in an incoherent strategy is that it only serves expediency: without a coherent strategy based on core values and deeply informed, clearly defined national interests based on those values, expediency inevitably leads to blowback.

In incoherent policies such as those pursued by Bush II/Obama, expedient operations lead to failures that trigger more secrecy and expediency, and there is no end to the failure born of expediency and avoidance of accountability.

Examples of conspiracy-type rationales include One-World agendas fostered by elite groups such as Bilderburg. I find these much less persuasive than good old Empire (i.e. global dominance), because we have to remember that the leadership has to have a narrative that "sells" the tens of thousands of people who are the operational core of the Empire an idealistic and idealized rationale for their sacrifice of morals, values and often their lives.

Serving an Elite agenda isn't persuasive, and neither is neocon nation-building. What sells is "fighting the enemy before they bring the battle to our Homeland" and the broad service of American Interests, i.e. #2 above: the fostering of democracy and Neoliberal Capitalism with soft power (alliances, trade, loans, etc.) and striking devastating blows to potential enemies before they can organize a strike against us.

The fundamental incoherence arises from the conflicting narratives and goals of these rationales. Precisely how can we serve American Interests by trashing the values we espouse and supporting the very psychopaths, juntas and extremists who foment the sort of instability that threaten American Interests?

If the Master Narrative of U.S. foreign policy is the ends justify the means, then clearly we have chosen our means very poorly.

This raises the larger question of whether a foreign policy that requires actively undermining our values and purported goals of democracy, open markets, stability and prosperity for all can possibly achieve its goal of maintaining Imperial dominance. if the victims of our realpolitik policies and those we have tasked with implementing them both lose faith in the American Project, then it is operationally impossible to win hearts and minds with more drone strikes, more laser-guided bombs and more alliances with the dregs of humanity.

Simplistic ideologies such as Neoconservatism fail in the complex environment of the real world. We might profitably recall that the 1960s equivalent of Neoconservatism was the "domino theory" that held that all small nation-states in a region were prone to "falling like dominoes" to Communist insurgencies, regardless of their history, culture, society, economy and form of government.

In other words, the stubborn ignorance of U.S. foreign policy based on ideological simplicities is near-infinite.

The second source of incoherence is the legalistic mindset that everything can be finessed with more words and policy refinements. This legalistic approach--so clearly the dominant mindset of the Obama administration--is one manifestation of American Exceptionalism: that not only can we remake the world in our astonishingly parochial image, but that we can control the world like we control the power structure at home: by finessing problems with legalistic subtleties ("it depends on the definition of is") and threatening overwhelming violence (just lace demonstrators with pepper spray and threaten whistleblowers with life in prison) to make the problem go away.

That this legalistic mindset guarantees failure in the real world is lost on those devoted to legalizing all of their extra-legal policies--if not in principle then in name.

Legalizing secrecy, ignorance and killing does not make magically transform these abuses of power into a successful policy. This may well summarize the Bush II/Obama administrations in history.

The vast ignorance at the heart of the Bush II/Obama foreign policy is breath-taking. We can argue about the ignorance of these two destructive presidents, but I see little to contest the ignorance of the policies and the institutions that make the operational decisions.

There are smart, well-informed and globally experienced people in the U.S. government, but they are ignored, dismissed or marginalized precisely because their knowledge threatens the incoherent mess that passes for foreign policy in these catastrophically inept presidencies.

The defining characteristic of the Bush II/Obama administrations is the reliance on secrecy--not to protect "national security" but to avoid accountability. If the operation is secret, its failure can be safely buried. This is the reason why everything is classified in the Bush II/Obama administrations: transparency and public knowledge are anathema because they enable scrutiny and analysis and eventually, accountability.

Secrecy is all about avoiding accountability. "National security" is the facade.

Secrecy is the refuge of every dictatorship, totalitarian regime and fascist junta on the planet. We need only look at the savage response of the Obama administration to whistleblowers who have risked their careers and livelihoods, not to mention their freedom, to expose the most egregious violations of the Constitution and American values to see just how dependent the Obama administration is on secrecy to avoid accountability.

Bush II was no better: using proxies (private contractors, local militia, etc.) has a long history in the U.S. Imperial Project as a way of avoiding accountability and scrutiny, but the Bush II/Obama foreign policy is totally dependent on proxies of one kind or another (consider the explosive rise in the use of killer drones, Obama's favored proxy).

The real world is not as forgiving as a bought-and-paid-for media; blowback takes many forms. The incoherence of the Bush II/Obama administrations is not only reaping horrendous harvests in the playgrounds of their Imperial ambitions, it is eroding the American public's trust in their government and the institutions that claim to protect them in a dangerous world.

The tragic reality is the Bush II/Obama administrations have made the world a far more dangerous place. That is blowback writ large.

None of this is new; it's all well-documented in the public record. The list of books written about the destructive consequences of the Bush II/Obama foreign policies is long; here is a short list of worthy titles to explore:

The Family Jewels: The CIA, Secrecy, and Presidential Power
The Way of the Knife: The CIA, a Secret Army, and a War at the Ends of the Earth
The Occupation of Iraq: Winning the War, Losing the Peace
Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic
Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq
Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War
Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq's Green Zone
Licensed to Kill: Hired Guns in the War on Terror
The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11
Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror
State of Denial: Bush at War, Part III
Ghost Wars: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and Bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001
See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism


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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:08 | 4869293 Soul Glow
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Dumb and ODumber

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:11 | 4869308 Emergency Ward
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Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:17 | 4869325 Stackers
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I actually think Bush and Bush 2.0 do have a foreign policy and have been very consistent with pursuing it. Global destabilization to keep America on top. Destabilize has much of the world as possible in regional instability so that local leaders are too busy trying to hold on to power, reestablish power and/or create a new power base from scratch to organize any kind of meaningful power axis that might threaten the euro-americana NATO power beast.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:28 | 4869402 Pinto Currency
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Destabilizing and dominating a major oil producing region that historically demanded gold for oil is not incoherent.

Amoral but not incoherent.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:00 | 4869930 TahoeBilly2012
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Dear Mr. Deep State. These aren't guys dumb, they are following orders. The US is knocking on Putin's doors and the Mid East is very near the Zionist goal to destroy all nation states in Mid East, just need Iran to get into war with everyone else...WINNING!

FYI you don't seem to know very much, read the Israeli docs in the 50's planning destruction of all mid east nation states.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:44 | 4870157 linniepar
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So explain to me how killing the dollar serves the empire, aka Usa. I disagree with the author.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:30 | 4870398 forensicator
Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:10 | 4869979 FeralSerf
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Killing and maiming innocent people so they can enrich themselves and their co-conspirators is NOT "amoral", ("being neither moral nor immoral; specifically : lying outside the sphere to which moral judgments apply").

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:33 | 4869442 McMolotov
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Yeah, it's pretty obvious to all of us on ZH, but not to most people.

Everyone should go read the editorial in the WSJ by Dick Cheney, and then read the comments. Then understand that most Republican voters have learned absolutely nothing from this mess over the last decade plus. They will easily be led into supporting an even bigger fiasco in the future.

The Red/Blue team sport mentality is amazing to behold. Regardless of who's in charge, the Deep State's agenda advances. When you're in the R vs. D game, it's impossible to notice. It's only when you step outside of it to observe at a distance that you realize everything is sliding toward tyranny.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:36 | 4869461 maskone909
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dick totally predicted what would happen if we invaded and pulled out of iraq.  see the vid i posted below.  what is most incredible is his blatant flip flopping from his original stance on the matter.  dick indeed +1

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:48 | 4869531 McMolotov
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Believe me, I know. I used to show that clip of Cheney to people who supported the Iraq war, but they'd just get angry and try to tell me how times had changed and that we simply had to get rid of Saddam. It's insane.

The war in Iraq was the issue that opened my eyes, so to speak. I come from a solidly Republican family. Probably would have voted for Perot if I'd been old enough, so maybe I was always slightly iffy. First vote for president: Bob Dole. Second vote for president: George W. Bush. Third vote for president: Ron Paul.

Fourth vote for president: Fuck it, I'm getting drunk instead.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:52 | 4869563 maskone909
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you can probably imagine the blowback i get from my democrat family.  i still pound the ZH knowledge into them every chance i get.  cognitive dissonance is a disease much like a drug addiction.  most dont change until they hit rock bottom. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:04 | 4869618 Dull Care
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Any highlights of their ignorance that you'd care to share? It's always entertaining and frightening to be around blue pill people.

I'm a hardcore libertarian conservative type and it's always amusing to be around my myopic NPR listening, Economist reading older brother. He's truly convinced there's a recovery and loves the state.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:41 | 4869783 maskone909
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"obamma care is a step in the right direction"

"the fed creates boom bust cycles, this is all simply a normal functioning economy"

"things are getting better"

"housing prices always go up, they did a nobel thing bailing out those banks"

"they are doing whats best"

"you are just a republican, you just dont like obamma"- although i am not supporting either party

"if you dont like the way things are, get out there and vote"

"you sound like you watch too much fox news" i never watch fox news


oh yeah and my favorite.  when i ask them why democrat they always say something to the effect...

"dems care about the little guy.  we have to take care of the less fortunate. if that measn giving a little, so be it" argggggggg!


Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:18 | 4870341 drendebe10
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Q: How many democraps does it take to change a light bulb?

A:  That's not funny and you're a racist....


"I am the democrat party's worst nightmare. A thinking black man."  Charles Ramsey in his book Dead Giveaway

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:30 | 4869747 McMolotov
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It seems like I make headway while I'm talking to my parents, but then they basically revert to their old ways of thinking by the next time I see them. I think the longer a person has been (hate to use the phrase) in the matrix, the harder it is to change. I've had more luck with my sister and her husband.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 01:22 | 4872531 The Blank Stare
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I predicted it too....and don't call me Dick

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:03 | 4869957 JRobby
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As the plan continues to work flawlessly. Hey! Let's watch the news on TV............................

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:16 | 4869671 teslaberry
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i don't see how you could possible leave clinton and obama out of this continuous policy. 


it is very much the truth that all of these presidents work in concert with a nearly fossilized bearacracy at the cia and executive branch generally , themselves under substantial consistent control, by private interests that have long term planning power. 


there  really aren't ANY discontinuities as far as i can see. 


it's not as if bush 2 ever had a 'long term' plan for iraq OTHER than destabilizing civil war in the long run. 

i mean fuck....what experienced emperor or king ever bets on the fact that they can more likely secure long term peace than they can simply instigate periodic conflict.  

the kings aren't the presidents. the presidents are a continuous line of servants. the kings of our day don't need or want too much public scrutiny.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:20 | 4870037 JRobby
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Obama is included. Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall. Obviously needs to be included.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:19 | 4869333 jbvtme
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i'm long shame and embarrassment with some expiring calls on remorse

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:29 | 4869408 maskone909
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this guy is always spot on with his analysis of geopolitics.  its quite amazing, his clip of cheney from 94' concerning the iraq invasion.

Thu, 06/19/2014 - 01:39 | 4872558 The Blank Stare
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Nice video. Thanks

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:30 | 4869415 max2205
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Talk about dumb and dumber. ..

Stupid and criminal is more like it

In 14 years the country is un recognizable

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:24 | 4869375 Stoploss
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What do you expect from a shitshow run out of England??

Send their kids to die for their own reasons, leave ours out this round.

Think of it as 'tenure'

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:54 | 4870550 TheReplacement
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Which means that:

1.  They are meaningfully on the same team.

2.  They are both amazingly incompetent.

3.  They are both controlled.

4.  They think they are on the same team but are in fact amazingly incompetent despite being controlled.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:09 | 4869299 Canadian Dirtlump
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The concept of this being something like incompetence or incoherence is just too much for me to entertain.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:16 | 4869339 prains
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Exactly.....the Banker controlled politcal agenda works in lock step with the MIC. They are two in the same.....destabilizing is the game. Whoop Whoop munee for nutting......they love, crave, desire YOUR blood. Each and everyone of your children will be lead to the slaughter, eventually, if you're not payng attention.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:24 | 4869363 NotApplicable
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Yep, it's only incoherent if you believe the script. Otherwise, it's so fucking coherent you cannot help but to see it in all of its glory.

Long story short: if I can see how this shit works, there's absolutely NO WAY that they don't. And I'm not talking about the hollow suits prostituting themselves in DC, either. They are but a Grand Facade.

Stupid people simply do not manage to own everything in the whole world.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:06 | 4869627 dearth vader
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The hollow suits acting on their own! Of course, that's why the emperor has no clothes.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:21 | 4869365 buzzsaw99
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they are puppets but each string has a different puppeteer that's why they dance so funky.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:36 | 4869467 Ignatius
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The "coherence" is Gangsta Capitalism.

Regulated market economies work fine until the gangstas grab the levers of power to form cartel, eliminate competion and freeze out markets.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:49 | 4869552 Banker Buster
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Niccolo Machiavelli wrote that the people often replace a bad leader with an even worse one.  Human nature strikes again.  Swing hard right with bush, then swing hard left with obummer.  Maybe U.S. can find a middle ground next time and we can get on with it for fuk sakes.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:09 | 4869303 madcows
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Look, just kill all the people I don't like, and the world will be a better place.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:16 | 4869326 NoDebt
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Short version:  Foreign policy is basically dog psychology.  If they think you're strong, they'll go along with you, even if they they think you're misguided in your aims.  If they think you're weak, they give you the middle finger no matter how rational, fair and beautiful your ideas are.  Guess where we are right now.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:15 | 4869335 HamRove
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We the People of this country have a huge responsibility to keep the wretched hive of scum and villany out of our governement. 

We the people voted these con-men in. We the people have put up with increasing debt, and war, and surveillance.

We the people allowed Clintons and Bushes, and Obama to trash it all, and I hardly saw anyone do anything about it for years.

Yes, they suck. but we were so busy with our fucking football, Iphones, and Facebook to care.

It's time to stop it, NOW. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:26 | 4869393 NotApplicable
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Our government? Friend, you are lost in a land of fiction, while providing legitimacy to the structure that empowers pure evil.

You want to save the world? How about stop participating in evil?

Walk the fuck away.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:45 | 4869521 HamRove
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It could be OURS again, buddy. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:44 | 4869826 FeralSerf
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Absolutely! It hasn't been OUR government for a very long time, if ever. The only REAL choice is showing the ones that own the/THEIR Government that we agree to be bound by THEIR choices by voting for one of THEIR candidates or not voting.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:15 | 4869337 All is chosen
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Lord Blair of Conceitville will be furious. He thought he'd done the damage for his string pullers all by his clever little self. 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:24 | 4869380 Canadian Dirtlump
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You spelled bLIAR wrong.. That new age satanic troll needs to report to the nearest fire and die in it.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:02 | 4869958 All is chosen
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Sorry, he is (painfully) earmarked as my lacky for three lifetimes. Then he is all yours :)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:15 | 4869338 pods
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All can be summed up pretty easily:
"Do whatever you can to keep the USD as the reserve currency otherwise we're skullfucked."



Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:21 | 4869361 JustObserving
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The Vietnam war cost $738 billion in 2011 dollars and yet forced the US off the gold standard  on August 15, 1971.

The decade-long American wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would end up costing as much as $6 trillion, the equivalent of $75,000 for every American household, calculates the prestigious Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:09 | 4869643 Flakmeister
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It was the US oil production peaking and having imports rocket higher that forced the end to convertability at a fixed rate...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:24 | 4869381 Flakmeister
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In all fairness to Obama, Otto von Bismarck would have been in over his head to pick up the pieces of 8 years of failed NeoCon policy...

O clearly was not up to the task....

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:35 | 4869447 SheepDog-One
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Again, we were all rosy up until 'Bush II', then we suddenly in a mess even Tha Messiah couldn't fix? Clearly there's a lot of delusion going on in this country these days with people and their 1 decade blinders on unable to see the bigger picture.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:37 | 4869463 Zerozen
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He's had 6 years already and has only made it worse.

Libya, Syria, Ukraine for example are 100% Obama.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:45 | 4869522 Flakmeister
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Alright brainiac, what would you have done in each case... 

BTW, meddling in Syria didn;t start in 2013. For that you have to go waaaaaay back...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:53 | 4869574 Zerozen
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I would have stayed out of it all to begin with, "brainiac". Ukraine was a particularly blatant case of provocative American meddling.

I'm aware that there have been meddlings in Syria by the U.S. for a while. However, the present renewal on a higher level of the decades-old offensive is Obama administration handiwork. It was his choice.

In my eyes he's as bad as Bush was, it's just his MO that's different.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:06 | 4869635 Flakmeister
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Complete and utter twaddle on your part...

What renewal in Syria?

Do you really think that a few CIA operatives started the Syrian Civil War? Are you that clueless about it's history?

The Ukraine is far more complicated than simple "American Meddling"...

The Arab/Islamic World is failing apart for reasons that are well beyond the ability of the US (or anyone for that matter) to address and yet somehow despite all this the Spice must continue to flow...

All the while clowns like McCain and Graham. who have absolutely zero credibility are calling for bombing any fucking thing that moves....

It's called a no win scenario...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:49 | 4869869 Zerozen
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Complete and utter twaddle on your part...

First, I just want to take the opportunity to say that I feel privileged to engage in debate with such a civil, friendly persona as yourself. I feel honored to learn from your deep experience and expertise in foreign relations/world history.

What renewal in Syria?

The one where the Obama admin has been actively supporting the Islamist rebels with training, money, weapons and propaganda (e.g. the discredited chemical weapons attacks). That was a choice the Obama administration made. And no, I am not clueless about Syrian history.

The Ukraine is far more complicated than simple "American Meddling"...

Yes, "the" Ukraine is a complicated place. I agree on that. The 2014 coup is pretty clear cut however. The Obama administation actively supported the overthrow of the elected government, the goal being to rip Ukraine away from Russia, i.e. meddling. Again, that was a choice. It wasn't a peace-promoting choice, it was a conflict-promoting choice.




Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:25 | 4870068 Flakmeister
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It must be nice to see things so clearly in black and white...

Could you quantify for us the relative contributions of KSA, Qatar and the US vis a vis the Syrian rebels? 

As for the Ukraine, one could easily argue that if the Putin had the foresight to install a puppet that had slightest shred of competency then no amount of meddling could have resulted in a coup...

The Ukrainians ain't stupid, 25 years ago they were pretty much on par with Poles and now the Polish standard of living is much much higher. It wasn't the US that fucked that up, was it? Maybe the Ukrainians didn't need much prodding to look west...

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:08 | 4870276 NihilistZero
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Libya, Syria, Ukraine for example are 100% Obama.

Libya, Syria, Ukraine for example are 100% International banks and the MIC.

FIFY :-)

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:20 | 4869683 Emergency Ward
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If that "task" has never been nor ever will be on his agenda, it doesn't matter if he is up to it or not.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:54 | 4869905 FeralSerf
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Barry was NOT appointed "to pick up the pieces of 8 years of failed NeoCon policy". Barry was appointed to maintain that Neocon policy and protect the guilty.

How aggressive has YOUR president been in prosecuting the criminal behavior of the neoconmen of the previous administration? Or those of his own administration?

Barry doesn't deserve any fairness. Otto does because at least Otto had some loyalty to his fellow Prussians. Barry has no such loyalties. But why should he? He's an Indonesian citizen.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:25 | 4869387 SheepDog-One
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We were OK up until 'Bush II and ObaMao'? Oh fucking horseshit. This shitalanche has been building for many decades, nothing new under the sun.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:27 | 4869400 NotApplicable
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More like millennia. The strong have always used deceit to rule the weak.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:37 | 4869465 SheepDog-One
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Right, nothing going on is anything new its been going on for far longer than any of us have been alive.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:47 | 4869534 SofaPapa
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There is one difference, however: scale.  Before, there were local or regional competitions for power just like what we are witnessing now.  But this today is actually a global game.  The same group of people is literally aiming to control the entire world.  As such, there is nowhere, absolutely nowhere, to hide this time around.  Technology has destroyed all the exits.  We all go down together on this one.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:26 | 4869391 Yellowhoard
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I suspect that the policy of Bushbama is to destabilize the Middle East and allow the old Ottoman Empire to reemerge.

By doing this, they will create a counter balance to Russian and Chinese ambition in that part of the world.

It's a cold blooded policy because millions of decent people will be butchered at the alter of Allah.

But, it makes perfect sense given our path toward energy independence.

In the future, Europe will have an alternative to Russian nat gas as the new caliphate builds a pipeline from Qatar to Paris.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:29 | 4869412 NotApplicable
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The only policy either of them has had is to do what their handlers tell them to do, lest they be martyred ala JFK, RFK and MLK (all of who "went off the reservation").

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:32 | 4869432 alexcojones
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Charles: The US President is a war criminal but starts out as an actor.


   "Most Americans believe, as did I as a child, that the US president is the most powerful leader in the free world. The truth is a bit more complex and yet very simple. The US president is an actor, chauffeur, salesman and puppet. Often all of the above at various times.
   "Certainly the most recent US president is a textbook example. Less a world leader than hipster chauffeur, Barack Obama impresses me as a limo driver, rather than the CEO. As chauffeur, he is suave. He greets the elites and is well-paid for his driving skill. But he is told where to go by people more powerful than him and how to get there, obvious from any observation. Like most recent presidents, BO is also a well-trained actor. He rarely deviates from his scripted lines and maintains theatrical poise, especially with his trusty teleprompter to guide him. A salesman, his toughest job is to sell a very bad product: US government deception, chiefly the enormous imperial debt and secrecy amassed over the past fifty years. Lastly, BO is a puppet, a pretender to the throne rather than a natural heir. His slogan, "Hope & Change" deceived millions of simple and naïve people on promises he cannot really deliver, much as the pizza delivery boy cannot give you the winning lotto ticket. Sadly, the first and probably last Black American (Kenyan some claim) president will go down in history as a clever fraud. As a former limo driver myself, I glimpsed his uniform very early in the game. 
   "Unlike Barack Obama, the previous presidential actor, GW Bush never betrayed his core audience. Instead he simply betrayed the country as a whole for eight long years. An aggressive chauffeur, he seemed to want to drive the country, I mean car, off the road. Happily for his handlers he had a man named Cheney as designated driver, while the "war president" as he liked to be called, posed by the limousine (or aircraft carrier) for photo opportunities."
US Presidents - Actor, Chauffeur, Salesman, Puppet
Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:35 | 4869450 MickV
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Of course, in an effort to be "anti- conspiracy theory" CHS ignores the Constitutional disaster that happened when the domestic enemy puppet of the NWO, Hussein Obama, was installed. IT WAS DONE PURPOSEFULLY, because when there is no legal executor of the laws, then there is no law.

Obama was born BRITISH of a BRITISH SUBJECT father, and therefore is not a natural born Citizen eligible to be POTUS. As bad as Bush was, Obama is far worse--- he is the NWO wet dream.

If he ignores this, then CHS knows nothing.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:57 | 4869459 Gadfly
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"The Fatal Incoherence Of Bush/Obama Foreign Policy"

Actually, our foreign policy MUST be going according to someone's plan because it would be virtually impossible for our leaders to be this fucking stupid and insane if they were actually trying to avoid conflct and war and the killing and maiming of innocent life, or pouring our financial future and resources down a rat hole.  If they were actually trying to create prosperity and peace for humanity what we are seeing unfold would be virtually impossible. So it absolutely MUST be intentional and part of someone's "coherent" plan.  Destablize the entire middle east (and also Russia).  Create the conditions for Arabs and Muslims to fight and kill each other in perpeituity, make sure there is no central government, no central control (other than ours), perpetual warfare amongst the peoples of the Arab nations.  Now who could possibly benefit from all of this chaos and insanity?  The problem is not enough people want to believe anyone could be this greedy, power-hungry, paranoid, and diabolical.  Just like most don't want to believe their eyes when they view the controlled demolition of Building 7 on 9/11, when it's as obvious as the nose on your face.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:42 | 4869497 Sandmann
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Cheney's war record in Vietnam speaks for itself

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:55 | 4869578 Flakmeister
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What was that line?

"I had other priorities in the sixties than military service."

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 11:58 | 4869596 Amish Hacker
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I think his draft-dodging, multi-deferment line was, "I had other priorities," but for real insights into Cheney's character, just look at how he excuses himself for politically-motivated crimes that cost hundreds of thousands of lives: "If I had known then what I know now, I would have done the same thing." Perfect! This proves that what I did then couldn't possibly have been wrong.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 20:32 | 4869576 rwe2late
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 The policy is not incoherent, though the ultimate goals are malicious.

The general policy is to Balkanize the Mideast as planned by "Clean Break" &  PNAC:

Atomizing the Mideast

US plotting

Managing Chaos

Bremer (a Kissinger protege) deliberately (not mistakenly) disbanded the Iraqi government and military after the US invasion fully realizing the chaos and strife that would be created. (And the additional US and Iraqi casualties that would predictably result by sowing chaos.)


Lately, it appears, the US has redirected more support to Sunni jihadists in furtherance of the overall goal of Balkanization. This has confused some who (incredibly) still believe the goal of US policy is  to deter "terrorism".


Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:03 | 4869619 sailortony
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The most important statement here imho is:

"The problem with this kind of short-term thinking in an incoherent strategy is that it only serves expediency: without a coherent strategy based on core values..."

This is impossible in a country where most have none or very few of the key values required in a modern and peaceful world.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:07 | 4869639 Son of Captain Nemo
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Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on what is ahead for this Country should we continue to procrastinate in not doing our job, and Francis Boyle on everything in finishing the job based on the last one "we" wouldn't impeach!

Even if Joe Biden is more rabid than Obama, he'll think twice before he decides the attempt at making it worse!  Perhaps his conflict of interest with his son Hunter in that Ukrainian oil deal with the Putsch government we funded might be the proverbial "killing of two birds with a single stone"?...

One can only hope!

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:46 | 4869840 foodstampbarry
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Obama doesn't care any longer. He is greatly offended and consumed with anger at this point. Obama is going to throw a childish fit and smack all of the playing pieces off of the board. What you will see from here on out is a presidency in temper tantrum.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 12:49 | 4869866 BeetleBailey
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FlubDubya (my nickname for Geoooooorgie....back before ZH) and Fuckbama....


Wed, 06/18/2014 - 13:18 | 4870031 22winmag
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When they rename Baghdad ISIS City you'll understand.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 14:34 | 4870434 forensicator
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The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it. ------ Josef Mengele

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 15:04 | 4870602 windcatcher
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Part 2 Hugh Smith?

The enemy within our government have come a long way since they murdered JFK and got away with it. Embolden by their success, 9/11 followed and their criminal fraud empire reigns today.

Justice is yet to be served, until Justice and the rule of law is served; the criminals that overthrew our Representative Democratic Republic (government of, for and by the People) and Free Enterprise System of capitalism (free from corporate monopoly) will continue to dictate from their fascist police state.

The Gay Prince in Washington is nothing more than an operative of the bankster/big oil/military complex criminals.

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 17:12 | 4871133 esum
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the situation in iraq rests squarely on obumbler. meathead brennan gave away the situatoin and we left with no status of forces. bush would not have done so and would not have just withdrawn the troops due to political pressure like obumbler. 

Bush proposed THREE STATES in Iraq.... just like it is going to wind up... if we are lucky, and luck doesn't work.. This group is going through iraq quickly becasuse it has the support (and fear) of the sunni people... Far as iran goes they have clearly stated their position. 

obama does have a consistent foreign policy. use his friends in the muslim brotherhood (his brother is a member wanted for terrorist activities in egypt) and their friends al queda to erode American influence in the middle east and assist with the establishment of the caliphate. 

everything he does goes to support, aid and abet this goal... he said himself when push came to shove he woudl stand with his muslim brothers AND THAT IS THE ONLY TRUTH HE HAS UTTERED IN 8 YEARS... 

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 20:32 | 4871773 TeethVillage88s
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Charles Hugh Smith is a dreamer of the right kind.

Excellent Article. I'm checking out his website.

But Mr. Smith is not the kind of Dreamer that Hillery & President Obama have in Mind.

Apparently you have to be a fascist to work in congress or be president - Well maybe if you are Fascist-Curious.

Political Success can have fair chances if you are


And by the way everything is political these days.


Yes, Moral Issues abound.

Cost savings goes to the Executives.

We throw all kinds of money around and then people stand in front of a carmera and complain about the little spent on social programs or job training.

2013 federal Outlays Training & Employment Services = $3.48 Billion (Decreased)

True we spend a lot in Social Programs, but US People are very productive. Incentives, tax strategies, insourcing to build tech jobs within government, labor teams to work on infrastructure can be done. But Capitalists in Congress and business lose all creativity on this issue.

2013 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $108.84 Billion

And if our Capitalist are so smart why don't they control the prices in Health Care to manage our federal budget and to aid Americans that go bankrupt from the costs.

2013 Total Medicare/Medicaid = $1.1 Trillion

The Answer:

We go Blind. We blind ourselves. We have some cognitive distortion that is being leveraged by the "Spin" from DC & the "Media".

And Logically:

The Blindness is so acute, the voices for reform so faint: You start to wonder if the want to turn the USA into the Middle East after all they never apologized for all these wars that prove the opposite of "American Values".

- 20,000 SAM Missiles provided to Syrian Rebels
- Mercenaries are Capitalist
- Capitalist Love Mercenaries
- US Constitution is our Principal Document
- Capitalist seem content to trash the Constitution
- Capitalist Control the Whitehouse & Congress
- We are now a Nation of Secrets anathema to the Constitution

Wed, 06/18/2014 - 21:02 | 4871844 TeethVillage88s
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Headline says Federal Tax Revenue up.

Let's look at this in the Monthly Treasury Report.

According to the Treasury Press Release: "...federal government’s total receipts for the fiscal year closed May at an unprecedented $1,934,919,000,000..."

Ho hum.

Yes looks like there are some gains in both Individual & Corporate Taxes.

But Social Security Payment Increases are 3 times higher than the supposed win fall.

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