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How "Willy" & "Nicky" Failed To Avert World War I

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Originally posted at Agence France Presse,

In the four days before World War I broke out, the Russian tsar and his cousin the German emperor -- "Willy" and "Nicky" as they nicknamed each other -- traded telegrams in a last-ditch bid to save peace, even as their army chiefs readied for battle.

 

On July 29, 1914, a day after Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, Russia's Nicholas II sent the first of these oddly surreal English-language telegrams to Wilhelm II, pledging his affection and commitment to peace.

"I foresee that very soon I shall be overwhelmed by the pressure forced upon me and be forced to take extreme measures which will lead to war," read the first message from Nicholas II, sent hours before Russia ordered a general mobilisation that would in turn pull Germany into the war.

"To try and avoid such a calamity as a European war I beg you in the name of our old friendship to do what you can to stop your allies from going too far," the tsar wrote.

Writing the same day, informed that Russia was about to mobilise -- a clear casus belli for Germany's army chiefs -- Wilhelm II pleaded with his cousin to stay out of the Austria-Serbia conflict.

 

"With regard to the hearty and tender friendship which binds us both from long ago with firm ties, I am exerting my utmost influence to induce the Austrians to deal straightly to arrive to a satisfactory understanding with you," the German wrote, signing off: "Your very sincere and devoted friend and cousin. Willy".

The first two telegrams crossed one another, like most that followed.

"Willy" went on to urge "Nicky" for "Russia to remain a spectator of the Austro-Serbian conflict without involving Europe in the most horrible war she ever witnessed."

Nicholas thanked Wilhelm for his attempts to mediate, and appealed to "the wisdom and friendship" of his German cousin to put an end to Austria's war preparations.

- 'On your shoulders now' -

But on July 30, Wilhelm -- having received news that Russia was mobilising its troops -- warned Nicholas this would endanger his role as mediator and force Germany to take "preventive measures of defence".

The next day came the admission from Nicholas II that -- while he hopes mediation with Vienna can still bear fruit -- he was powerless to reverse the military march.

"It is technically impossible to stop our military preparations which were obligatory owing to Austria's mobilisation," he wrote, signing off: "Your affectionate, Nicky".

By this point Wilhelm II had become markedly less affectionate, laying the responsibility for the looming disaster squarely with his cousin.

"The whole weight of the decision lies solely on you(r) shoulders now, who have to bear the responsibility for Peace or War," he wrote on July 30.

"The responsibility for the disaster which is now threatening the whole civilised world will not be laid at my door," he warned the following day, with Berlin poised to enter the war.

Still, Nicholas II seemed to believe until the last that war could be averted, sending an SOS on the morning of August 1 in which he asked Wilhelm II to confirm that Germany's mobilisation did not mark the end of efforts for peace.

"Our long proved friendship must succeed, with God's help, in avoiding bloodshed. Anxiously, full of confidence await your answer. Nicky."

But the die had been cast.

"Willy" replied tersely that he could no longer discuss the matter short of "immediate affirmative clear and unmistakable" message calling off the Russian mobilisation -- something he already knew to be impossible.

"As a matter of fact I must request you to immediatly [sic] order your troops on no account to commit the slightest act of trespassing over our frontiers."

That evening, at 7:00 pm, "Willy" declared war on "Nicky" and the "horror", "bloodshed" and "disaster" foretold by the courteous cousins had begun.

 

 

 

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Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:00 | 4880914 DoChenRollingBearing
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I just hope that ZerObama and Puti-Pute are not cousins...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:07 | 4880924 TeamDepends
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If it is revealed as fact that Putin is a member of the Indonesian cult of Subud, we will eat a shoe*.

*We choose the shoe.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:14 | 4880937 knukles
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Try this on for size.. some independent confirmation of my own impressions with CNN the last days.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/media-news/cnn-brings-back-wrong-iraq/

 

Seems as though they're a shill for whatever power in DC, pro war...
Ted Turner and Jane Fonda should be proud

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:31 | 4880977 Headbanger
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Watch this to learn what REALLY happened and you might disagree with the above story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzbCh4c-8vA

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:57 | 4881040 max2205
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Let's stop re fighting old wars here.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:25 | 4881096 gh0atrider
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gh0atrider should be stacking more at these levels but has been getting side-tracked with his gun and bayonet collection.

At least Solingen steel will always have value just like silver.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 19:27 | 4881430 Cap Matifou
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As I recall some Chief of Staff like apparatchik of the German emperor worded in his name some harsh response, that got too early and against the will of Willy leaked to a newspaper, and kicked the war into rolling, all to the joy of TPTB.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:47 | 4881015 Ckierst1
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That's similar to WW 1 where JPMorgan bought the major papers to shill the war for the banksters, to the point of preventing publication of warnings to Americans about traveling on the oceanliner cum munitions ship Lousitania.  It was sunk with much loss of life getting the US into the war as planned.  See Patrick Buchanon's book.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:33 | 4881110 fleur de lis
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All the Monarchs on Earth could not avert WW1 for it had been meticulously planned by central bankers for decades. US AgriSec HHoover organized food to be loaded onto specially marked ships controlled by NavSec FDR. This takes long term planning, especially since everything was on paperwork long before the first shot was fired. The IRS and Fed scams were conveniently set up before the war so the money kept pouring in. All wars are central banker wars.

http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_....

https://s3.amazonaws.com/bk1/bk2/wall-street-and-the-rise-of-hitler.pdf

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 22:03 | 4881748 fleur de lis
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Thanks!

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:37 | 4881114 MeMadMax
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That's BS... Germany was handing out papers saying the ship was gonna be attacked for carrying ammo to the passengers as they were buying their tickets and boarding the ship...

 

 

 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:56 | 4881151 kchrisc
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We really should be calling them the "complicit media," instead of the way too soft term "mainstream media," or the harder, but still not fully on the mark, "propaganda media."

 

"Conundrum: How can they cover the actions of my guillotine while they are waiting their turn?!"

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 18:17 | 4881288 Amish Hacker
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"Complicit Media" really got its start in the 1890s, with William Randolph Hearst (New York Journal) and Joseph Pulitzer (New York World) fighting for circulation.  Hearst had sent the artist Frederic Remington to Cuba just before the outbreak of the Spanish American War. Remington wired the home office that everything seemed quiet in Cuba and there would be no war. Hearst famously wired back: "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war." This whole period around the birth of "yellow journalism" became the template for relations between powerful media and powerful politicians. Same as it ever was.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:08 | 4881063 booboo
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Beware the Six Degrees of Retardation

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 20:04 | 4881519 Kirk2NCC1701
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The original "Slick Willie"

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:00 | 4880915 TeamDepends
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Proof positive World Wars are fought for honorable and legitimate reasons.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:39 | 4881118 RaceToTheBottom
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Not to mention the selection of leaders should be made based on family dynasties.

We should replace the primary system with a discussion session which the prostitute parties decide which of their dynasties will run against each other and which should win.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:05 | 4880916 rtalcott
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Willie was not really trying to stop it he was trying to start it...well..maybe he was trying to stop it after it was too late.

This article is a really bad Cliff's Notes version of how WWI started.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:35 | 4880990 Headbanger
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I agree it's a really bad Cliff's Notes about it but according to this documentary, the German generals rushed to start the war without Willie's consent cause he was a dope!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzbCh4c-8vA

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:51 | 4881019 rtalcott
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I find this hard to believe (but I can be wrong...)...the relationship between Germany & Russia was historically VERY strong...this was a BIG piece of Bismarck's strategy (google Reinsurance Treaty)...and don't forget Russia let Austria take (Herzagovina?  my bad spelling and it may have been another country) a few years back and was humiliated...the situation was complex and 'effed up..and I do agree Willie...well he reminds me of barry...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:58 | 4881042 rtalcott
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IIRC Von Moltke (The Younger) was Chief of the General Staff and I can not imagine him starting a war....not from everything I have read about him...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:38 | 4881116 nickels
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Read the definitive history of WWl "The Sleepwalkers" by C. Clark. A meticulously researched and microscopically examined account of events leading up to the war-( mostly Serbian history). When you're done I think you'll agree that nobody has any friggin clue as to what exactly "caused" the war.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:04 | 4880917 Newsboy
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These are different days. Demand destruction en-masse is required by the elites, while keeping an intact industrial base for about 10% of the global population, just those essential to serve their needs.

What kind of "neutron bomb" strategy are they devising?

I think pestilence might serve them best, but it's so hard to accurately predict, isn't it?

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:06 | 4880922 duo
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The Great War killed or maimed half the French men between 17 and 50 years old, creating a "labor shortage".  Don't give Yellen or Obama any ideas.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:13 | 4880935 nmewn
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Were the other half in hiding? ;-)

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:15 | 4880943 knukles
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No, they'd already surrendered

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:25 | 4880963 nmewn
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Three squares and a cot.

Vive le France! ;-)

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 02:11 | 4882127 Sorry_about_Dresden
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In the South we say "3 hots and a cot" but isn't; really.

More t like fighting to keep your cot ,the baloney and pseudo cheese sandwich and noodles if you have canteen cash.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:32 | 4880980 highly debtful
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Sorry, had to downarrow you both on this occasion. Ever been to a WW I ossuary in France? Ever read name after name on the enormous walls on French war sites? Although I have a difficult relationship myself with the French these days, you should not demean their courage and their sacrifices. 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:35 | 4880989 duo
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I was going to say the same thing.  From Napoleon until Verdun they had a pretty strong military.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:19 | 4881037 weburke
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verdun, well, at least after the war americans werent so fooled as we are now about verdun.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzLGltxibw&index=2&list=PLl-PUQ4eU_LWqX...

 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:35 | 4881111 mjcOH1
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"I was going to say the same thing.  From Napoleon until Verdun they had a pretty strong military."

 

Patton had the right idea.....Silver Star or above awarded to a soldier, and you ship him home.   You want him in your nation's gene pool.

The French, as you pointed out, had a pretty strong military from Napolean until Verdun.   But they burnt the seed corn.  It was showing by WWII.

You could argue the US has done the same thing since the end of the Vietnam War.   The best sign up and ship out.   Homeslice gets the EBT and a monthly check to breed stateside.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:25 | 4881209 graneros
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Actually the French had the largest and strongest Army in Europe and most likely the world right up til 1940.  The French Army alone outnumbered the Germans by almost 2 to 1 when the Germans came through the low countries around the Maginot line. What beat the French and The BEF was piss poor military leadership and their own politicians.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 18:55 | 4881346 duo
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Save that discussion for the 100th anniversary of the Somme, and after that, Third Ypres.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 07:42 | 4882306 Analyse2
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@graneros

I agree with you, but it was not the only cause : The strength of Hitler's army, particularly the Air Force, was largely underestimated.

In 1939 and 1940 France was let alone (apart from only 8 British divisions, which succeeded to quickly re-embark at Dunkirk thanks to the sacrifice of the soldiers of the 1st French Army of the North ).

France was let alone facing a nazi-fanaticized country with a population of 80 million (vs. 40 million in France), a particularly well prepared war-industry, and an air superiority of 5 vs 1. 

At the same time the “US ally” refused to sell planes on credit to France !

Contrary to what has often been said, and is a result of the Nazi propaganda of that time, and the neo-cons hatred in 2003, the German advance (Blitzkrieg) encountered serious resistance from the French troops.

In the six week Battle of France, from May 10 to June 22, 1940, the French lost, in military personnel alone, 260,000 wounded and 108,000 killed. A total of 368,000 casualties in six weeks is not something to pass off lightly.

This is 5 times more than the losses of the American army in three months of battles in Normandy in 1944 (21000), and nearly the same amount than the US deaths in 7 months of WW1 (116700) !

It is the air superiority (over 1,000 Stuka bombers knocked out the troops defending Sedan) and the intelligent use of the German panzers that broke the defenses and made ineluctable the defeat.

Since WW2, air superiority is always the winning key of all battles …

The 1940 campaign was the most intense of all the battles that will take place later on the Western Front:

the Germans suffered heavy losses in just 6 weeks - approximately 60,000 killed 111 000 injured and above 1250 planes were destroyed which will be greatly missed by the Luftwaffe during the battle of Britain.

Struggling one against five, the French fighter planes weakened the Luftvaffe (defeating two German planes for one loss). 

Yes, the Germans gave the French a terrible beating. But it took the combined strength of the United States, Great Britain, Soviet Russia, Canada, etc., to beat the Germans.  It’s asking rather a great deal of France to match such strength against hers – with an air inferiority of 1 vs 5. ”

The US never faced mor than 15% of the Wehrmacht – 80% were in the East -  when France had to face alone 100% of Hitler's war machine in 1940 – plus 22 Italian divisions in the south. In fact, the Germans would have walked straight over the British or American armies if any of these places would have been directly adjacent to France.

 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 21:40 | 4881700 optimator
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1871 Franco-Prussian war  weakened their military enough to lose that war.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:46 | 4881008 nmewn
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It seems to me the French (today) go out of their way to impugn the integrity & character of us (Americans) these days. I just return the favor every chance I get.

Quid pro quo Clarice ;-)

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:04 | 4881056 FeralSerf
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Thanks to the many military adventures that America has involved itself and started since the end of WW2, it's not very difficult for the French or anyone else for that matter "to impugn the integrity & character of us (Americans)".

Since Harrys' war on the Korean peninsula, American military aggressions have just gone from bad to worse. The current debacles are typical.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:47 | 4881134 Pure Evil
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While we're at it. Let's try to overlook the military misadventures of the French in Indochina, North Africa (Algeria), and the British-French coup attempt on the Suez Canal which had to be put down by Ole Bubble Head.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:08 | 4881175 nmewn
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I see, we're going to focus on a short period of time.

So the French get a free pass on their empire building, "theft of resources" and wealth accumulation for hundreds of years and we get to "protect" their sorry ass after the fact.

Now you know why I want ALL of our troops out of europe.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:37 | 4881227 graneros
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I'm with you Brother. If we picked up our toys and went home we wouldn't have to even hear the acronym NATO mentioned again. The USA IS NATO. Without us it would disolve overnight.  None of the NATO members have an Army even worthy of being called an Army. Not only do American taxpayers pay the tab for our own defense but we are the lion's share of Europe's defense as well.  I am sick of it.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 18:29 | 4881306 nmewn
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I'm sick of it too.

And there is nothing worse than an unappreciative cocksucker sitting around bitching about another who provides them with the security to bitch. Lets see what their tax rate becomes when the US pulls out.

They're good "socially minded" folks they surely have a plan ;-)

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 18:55 | 4881348 knukles
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What the fuck is this place turning into?
FrogAppreciation.net?

Oy!

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 19:18 | 4881408 Deer Hunter
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They are all in the grave, who cares?

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 23:33 | 4881905 FeralSerf
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No, the French don't get a free pass on their sordid colonial empire building anymore the the British do. Why should they?

You would think that America could learn from this sorry time of empire building. But no, America seems to have learned nothing. At least there isn't any American military bases in France (no thanks to the Americans). Why are Americans in Africa helping the French with their colonial empire (although the French no longer call it that)?

I think the troops should have left Europe long ago. But I don't think the bankers and multi-national corps. would agree.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 08:00 | 4882320 Analyse2
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Not funny

More precisely World War I cost France 1,697,800 dead and 4,266,000 wounded (of whom 1.5 million were permanently maimed) and 537,000 made prisoner or missing - exactly 73% of the 8,410,000 men mobilized (for a total population of 40 million).

This means that 60% of men between the ages of 18 and 28 died or were permanently maimed.

You can have an idea of what these figures woud represent for the present population of the US:

13,412,000 dead and 33,701,400 wounded (of whom 11,850,000 permanently maimed) and 4,242,000 made prisoner or missing. Can you imagine US reaction to casualties on that scale?

And the French DID NOT SURRENDER (Your stupid Jay Leno's style jokes are really not funny) …

In fact, these jokes reflect the hate of american warmongers against France. It remains still there, well alive, even in ZH.

They have not forgiven the offence of the firm refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003, and their stale hate still show through "innocent good jokes" about the “surrender monkeys”.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:52 | 4882937 Flakmeister
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Not in WW I....

Not even close...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 20:40 | 4881597 ILLILLILLI
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You can be sure genomic bioweapons are being developed. Not a thing indiscriminate about that...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:05 | 4880920 duo
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IIRC, the August 1 telegram was delayed by a Russian general who wanted war (either boredom or for advancement).  Either way, the telegram was delayed beyond Nick II's last opportunity to reverse the mobilization order.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:14 | 4880941 magnetosphere
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the russian chief of staff also smashed his telephone to forestall any attempt at cancelling mobilization by "nicky", who was also not exactly very bright

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:18 | 4880949 duo
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how do you say "what difference does it make" in Russian?

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:26 | 4880967 magnetosphere
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touché but it's more entertaining to say he smashed his telephone after receiving the mobilization order

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:22 | 4880960 paddyirishman
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I wonder if this general belonged to a certain tribe who have been destroying countries and peoples for ages and who like to falsely portray themselves as the most persecuted. oh vey

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:05 | 4881057 mjcOH1
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"I wonder if this general belonged to a certain tribe who have been destroying countries and peoples for ages and who like to falsely portray themselves as the most persecuted. oh vey"

 

Nope.   The 'telephone smasher' was Nikolai Yanushkevich, Chief of the General Staff from March 1914, Chief of Staff to the Supreme Commander in Chief, Grand Duke Kikolai Nikolaevich (grandson of Nicholas I) at the outset of war.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yanushkevich

"Yanushkevich apparently played only a minor role in the opening campaigns of the war. According to Stone both he and the Supreme Commander, Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich, were mere figureheads - command of the Russian armies was effectively exercised by the ostensible third-in-command, Quartermaster-General Yu. N. Danilov, a close associate of Sukhomlinov. Danilov was supported by a staff of fifteen whereas Yanushkevich had a single adjutant and spent part of his time developing his taste for pornography.[6] The deeply anti-semitic Yanushkevich did, however, play a leading role in the indiscriminate persecutions of Jews that accompanied the so-called “Great Retreat” of 1915.[7]"

 

The telephone smashing  was done at the driection of Sergey Sazonov, Russian foreign minister from 1910-1916, minor Russian nobleman, and fervent anti-Bolshevik

(see WWI by Samuel Marshal - http://books.google.com/books?id=xN7t7DgsclcC&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=sazono...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Sazonov

"Early in 1917, Sazonov was appointed ambassador in Great Britain, but found it necessary to remain in Russia, where he witnessed the February Revolution. He was opposed to Bolshevism, advised Anton Denikin on international affairs, and was foreign minister in the anti-Bolshevik government of Admiral Kolchak. In 1919 he represented the White movement at the Paris Peace Conference. ."

 

No Jooos.   Sorry.


Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:31 | 4881217 BigJim
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 The deeply anti-semitic Yanushkevich did, however, play a leading role...

Maybe he was one of the self-hating™ ones!

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:40 | 4881230 mjcOH1
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That could be.   Order of St Stanislaus.  Order of St Anna.   Order of St Vladimir.   Order of St George.   Smoked by his  guards in 1918 while being transported to Petrograd after being arrested by the Bolsheviks.  

The.  Ultimate.  CryptoJooo.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 18:54 | 4881338 paddyirishman
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well you've definitely proven they were part of the tribe, stop trolling ya hasbara troll.

 

plus how do we know they're the generals referred to in the previous post and what you've posted doesn't appear in the wikileaks links you've posted, always lying you lot oh vey!!!

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:12 | 4880932 rtalcott
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Willie and Nicky would have worked out well as Supervisors at WalMart....and things look about the same now...Putin appears to be the only player who is a real player the rest are Willie and Nicky.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 21:35 | 4881691 optimator
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Inbreeding has its down side.  But then it doesn't seem to effect the Banksters.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:13 | 4880939 bugs_
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but....i thought that the NYT said war was beneficial, even good.  maybe the anti-war left won't need to get a broken neck from looking the other way for so long.  if war is ok now, even good, then maybe willy and nicky didn't fail.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:21 | 4880958 nmewn
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Its a good point, where are all the anti-war protesters camping out in the fairways & sand bunkers that O'Barry frequents?

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:32 | 4881219 BigJim
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Any war that Obama wants must be a just™ war, and Obama is a good man.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 11:03 | 4885558 Yes We Can. But...
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FWIW, Bill Clinton is said to hate BO like he has never hated anyone.  He hates his effing guts.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2665099/I-hate-man-lived-Feud-Cl...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:22 | 4880961 rtalcott
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Otto would not have let this happen...but by now he had been gone for ~25 years leaving Willie in charge.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:25 | 4880964 ShrNfr
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the only affection that Obama has is for Obama. Nothing else exists in his world.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:29 | 4880972 Boomberg
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All the European royalty and even the American oligarchs of the time were intertwined by family ties sometimes close sometimes distant, and most all correspondence between the families of the time was polite right before and even while the poison gas was being dispersed. Hell the "Windsors" British royal family is German. Changed their last name from the German Wettin-Mountbatten during WWI. 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:40 | 4880998 zerocash
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The name Mountbatten was changed from the German name Battenberg.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:02 | 4881047 Kinskian
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George V, another cousin, denied Nicholas and his family exile in England, partly over concern for Nicholas' German wife and also to appease the left in England who supported the Russian Revolution. We know how that turned out.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:56 | 4881038 Oldrepublic
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Yes you are correct, the British royal family was called the House of Saxe-Colburg and Gotha until July, 1917 when it changed to the current House of Windsor 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:35 | 4880973 Joe A
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WWI was about who was going to be boss in Europe and the colonies of the respective European countries. Back then Germany recently had become a unified country and a rising power. Germany planned this war well in advance. Germany wanted war for it pressured Austria-Hungary to impose demands on Serbia they could not accept such as the occupation of its territory. Curiously, some 85 years later NATO would do exactly the same to Serbia over Kosovo: Serbia was to accept the limitless access to its civil and military infrastructure by NATO effectively being occupied. This was imposed by Albright and co. Even Henry Kissinger said this was completely incorrect. NATO wanted that war.

Serbia kicked Austrian-Hungarian ass but then Germany invaded Serbia and chased their army all the way to Corfu while they were attacked in the back by the Bulgarians. The Serbian army recuperated and with the help of the Russians, the French and the English drove the Germans and their allies out of Serbia. After the the kingdom of Yugoslavia was established. Serbia lost half on its men during that war.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:22 | 4881082 FeralSerf
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Bullshit! Germany, except possibly for Krup and his ilk, did NOT WANT WAR.

Germany had no choice but to attack France quickly if she were to avoid a losing two front war in which Germany would be greatly outnumbered by the French and the Russians. Both sides knew this. This was why Willie was so concerned about his cousin Nicky mobilizing his Russian troops. Every extra day the Russians had to mobilize was one less day Germany had available to stop the probability of a two front war.

Unfortunately for Germany, the Germans got to France a couple weeks too late and the Russians mobilized quicker than predicted. The Belgians also put up a better fight than predicted. The only path left was a very costly, long period of trench warfare on the western front.

American involvement to save the Anglo-American bankers and their "investment" in allied loans for armaments made the possibility of an armistice and a real peace impossible. Thanks to Wilson, the world got to revisit the killing fields in 1939.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:44 | 4881125 Joe A
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Well, you said it: Krup and his ilk. And that was enough. It is called corporatism and we see that happening today as well.

It is very well documented that German diplomats pressured the Austrian Hungarians into making demands to Serbia that they could not accept. Everybody knew that that would lead to war. Even the Serbs knew that but nobody would have accepted terms like that. If Germany did not want war, why then did they pressure the Austrian Hungarians? Everybody knew that Russia would come to the aid of Serbia. You are wrong my friend. Germany thought they would win the war. Just like they did in WWII (also heavily pushed by German industry). And now they are running the show in the EU anyway.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:35 | 4880985 Ignatius
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How WWI set up WWII by Holocaust revisionist Germar Rudolf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_0Za-FrDE

Here's Jewish revisionist David Cole having fun with the Museum of Tolerance and Nazi "gas vans":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PuNPTx8Ki0

Note to idiots:  revisionism is not "denial", simply an attempt to set the record straight and get a fuller appreciation of the complexities of history.

David Cole had gone into hiding after death threats only to be eventually 'outed'.  His story is in his new book Republican Party Animal.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:42 | 4880996 Joe A
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Revisionism indeed is not denial but rewriting history according to one's own believe and political/religious persuasion. Usually history is written by victors and 'the flavor of the day'.

We can witness history being written right now but whom to believe?

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 21:26 | 4881676 optimator
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But why the fear, punishment, and legal action against anyone just trying to investigate.  Unless they are hiding something.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 21:32 | 4881682 optimator
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Sometimes one man can change history.  in the 1914 era, mobilization was tantamount to actual war.  mobilization was almost a declaration of war.  And who mobilized first, Germany, Austria, or Russia?  The answer is none of the above.  The first mobilization in 1914 was the mobilization of the British Fleet done solely by the First Lord of the Admiralty without any notification to the Government.  Who was he?  The "Man of the Century", Winston Churchill.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:38 | 4880993 Cognitive Dissonance
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Since we know the history books are written by the winners, and that history is a series of lies agreed upon, what's the other side to this 'story'?

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:55 | 4881028 Urban Redneck
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The branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha that setup shop in the UK knew damn well that the "empire on which the sun never set on" (aka global reserve currency) would not only be threatened by an alliance that stretched from the North Sea uninterrupted to the Pacific Ocean, but that even within Europe they would wind up playing second fiddle at the old-world inbred conclaves if that particular Alliance were seriously resurrected.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:41 | 4881002 Chief Wonder Bread
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Nobody would go to war for a corporation. But can you believe it, they would send your son.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:41 | 4881004 alexcojones
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Couple months into the Great War, tunnel warfare in progress.

A Christmas truce was called and both sides began to play friendly (World Cup?) soccer matches in "No Man's Land."

TPTB quickly ordered friendly matches to cease.

Christmas truce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:45 | 4881007 alexcojones
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     "On December 7, 1914, Pope Benedict XV suggested a temporary hiatus of the war for the celebration of Christmas. The warring countries refused to create any official cease-fire, but on Christmas the soldiers in the trenches declared their own unofficial truce.

   "Starting on Christmas Eve, many German and British troops sang Christmas carols to each other across the lines, and at certain points the Allied soldiers even heard brass bands joining the Germans in their joyous singing.

   "At the first light of dawn on Christmas Day, some German soldiers emerged from their trenches and approached the Allied lines across no-man’s-land, calling out “Merry Christmas” in their enemies’ native tongues. At first, the Allied soldiers feared it was a trick, but seeing the Germans unarmed they climbed out of their trenches and shook hands with the enemy soldiers. The men exchanged presents of cigarettes and plum puddings and sang carols and songs. There was even a documented case of soldiers from opposing sides playing a good-natured game of soccer.

  "Some soldiers used this short-lived ceasefire for a more somber task: the retrieval of the bodies of fellow combatants who had fallen within the no-man’s land between the lines.

   "The so-called Christmas Truce of 1914 came only five months after the outbreak of war in Europe and was one of the last examples of the outdated notion of chivalry between enemies in warfare. It was never repeated—future attempts at holiday ceasefires were quashed by officers’ threats of disciplinary action (With Orders from Above, no doubt) —but it served as heartening proof, however brief, that beneath the brutal clash of weapons, the soldiers’ essential humanity endured."

No trace of "Humanity" from certain world "Leaders," unfortunately

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:58 | 4881039 Joe A
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That's right. Ordinary men who under other circumstances would get along fine are pitched against each other by politicians, 'royalty', religious leaders, industrialists, bankers and other scum to fight their wars. If at x-mas 1914 all these soldiers decided to go back home and kill every officer that tried to get in their way then that war would have stopped there and then. The motto of the peace movement of the 60s and 70s still holds truth: "imagine, war breaks out and nobody shows up". Alas, ordindary people aka sheep are easy to manipulate.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:59 | 4881046 DeliciousSteak
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Sadly the technological advancement of mankind has made it so that more often than not war is total war. It does not end until one side surrenders unconditionally or is exterminated. The quick surrender of the French in WW2 becomes understandable when you realize what they went through in the first one. There was no point in repeating that spectacle.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:12 | 4881067 Joe A
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The 'quick' surrender of the French in WWII was understandable: their defeat was a fait accompli. The Germans did in WWII what they couldn't do in WWI and that was to break through the lines and encircle the French army. The French in those 6 weeks in 1940 lost 100,000 men. They fought on to let the British escape via Dunkurque. After that fighting on would have been suicide.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:02 | 4882965 Flakmeister
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Wrong....

It was the break through the French line at the Somme June 7th-9th that did the French in, that combined with a loss of political will to continue fighting. Throw in the Luftewaffes command of the air for a perfect tri-fecta....

The fighting around Amiens was the most intense the Germans experienced until the Ostfront...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 15:49 | 4881014 Oldrepublic
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re: telegrams and war

Reminds me of the famous Zimmerman telegram of 1917 in which German foreign minister Zimmerman offers Mexico, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona if Mexico would join the Germans in the war against the allies. The British intercepted the telegram, decoded it and gave it  to the  Americans, helping push the US into World War One  

 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:50 | 4881101 FeralSerf
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Many claim it was the Zionists that intercepted the telegram and used it to encourage Balfour to to give them Palestine, a Palestine that the British had no legal right to give.

The telegram had no influence on the American decision to get involved to bail out the British who could see that their position was very bleak in 1917 thanks to the German submarines.

http://what-when-how.com/conspiracy-theories-in-american-history/zimmerm...

http://www.worldwizzy.com/library/Zimmerman_telegram

http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2012/04/truth-about-zimmerman-telegram-how-us...

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:15 | 4881189 Duke Dog
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Do you actually believe that bullshit propaganda. Dig a little deeper.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:37 | 4881112 kchrisc
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Have many years of research I have identified who really started WW I.

Now this may shock some, and he has been hiding in plain sight all this time.

The perp is: Cui Bono

He has been spotted instigating many other wars as well. Many also believe that he was in Deaeley Plaza as well.

Many sightings of him have recently been made of him rampaging thru the American country. He uses many aliases: CIA, BLM, DEA, ATF, FBI, {?}PD, FedRes Chairman, banker, Corzine, Obama, Bush…

If you spot him, please bring him to the nearest guillotine.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 16:51 | 4881141 FeralSerf
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Dats raciss.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:03 | 4881167 disabledvet
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this is how modern wars start:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seBpXt8_6xs

"it was really a battle of self versus self."

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 17:22 | 4881201 Fix It Again Timmy
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If politicians or their children were forced to fight wars, we wouldn't have ANY...

 

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 18:55 | 4881347 orangegeek
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Games Games Games.

Sat, 06/21/2014 - 21:41 | 4881704 optimator
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Best, and latest read on all this is "July 1914".

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 02:32 | 4882151 tulip_permabull
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The 100-year timings make for an interesting coincidence:

1814 - 1815 Congress of Vienna and Napoleonic wars

(see http://philosophyofmetrics.com/ for some interesting observations about "The New Congress of Vienna) 

1914 - World War 1

2014 - World War 3

 

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