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Judge Who Sentenced Saddam Hussein To Death Has Been Executed By ISIS, Local Media Reports

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Back in 2006, after the second US invasion of Iraq culminated if not with the discovery of the WMDs (which were the pretext for the invasion in the first place), but the unearthing (literally) and kangaroo court trial of Saddam Hussein, the US was quick to announce "mission accomplished." Recent events have made a mockery of that claim, however what is truly the straw that broke the back of poetic justice, to mix metaphors, are reports from local media that as part of its blitz-campaign to take over northern Iraq, ISIS found and the promptly executed Rauf Rashid Abd al-Rahman, the judge who sentenced Saddam to death: a death which to many was the crowning moment of the second US invasion of Iraq, and the confirmation of successful US foreign policy. 

It goes without saying that if true, the murder of the man who indirectly did the US bidding in slamming the book shut on the Saddam regime (and with it US claims of Iraqi "liberation") and was responsible for Saddam's death, means the last "Mission Accomplished" posted can now be safely taken down.

As LiveLeak first reported, Rauf Rashid Abd al-Rahman was the replacement chief judge of the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal's Al-Dujail trial of Saddam Hussein in 2006. His background, from Wikipedia:

Abd al-Rahman was an ethnic Kurd from Halabja, the site of the 1988 Halabja poison gas attack. He replaced Rizgar Mohammed Amin as chief judge on 23 January 2006. Amin had resigned after being criticised in the Iraqi media for appearing "too soft" on the defendants by allowing them to speak aloud in court without being recognized.

 

After Amin's resignation, Abd al-Rahman headed the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal during the rest of the trial of Saddam Hussein for genocide, and when it sentenced him to death. He also sentenced to death some of his top aides.

 

In December 2006, Abd al-Rahman took his family to Britain on a travel visa, and three months later applied for asylum. He later cancelled his application.

 

In 16 June 2014, Abd al-Rahman was arrested by ISIS rebels during 2014 Northern Iraq offensive. Two days later, it was reported that ISIS captured and executed him.

More details from Almesryoon.com, google translated.

There were reports the execution of Iraqi judge, Raouf Abdel-Rahman, who spent the same judgment on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, according to confirmed the pages on the social networking site, without official confirmation from the Iraqi government.

The pages on social networking sites, including Page MP Jordanian Khalil Attieh on the site "Facebook" to "revolutionaries Iraqis arrested him and sentenced him to death in retaliation for the death of the martyr Saddam Hussein," he said, adding that Rauf tried to escape from Baghdad after wearing uniforms dancers.

She page Izzat al-Douri, vice-president Saddam Hussein, the "Facebook" to the rebels Iraqis were able to arrest the Kurdish judge Rauf Rashid, who issued a death sentence against the former Iraqi leader, which is currently in the "grip of the soldiers of the Islamic State and the men of the Baath Party."

She page address, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, "Judge Rauf Rashid in the grip of Mujahideen equipped Aahalki neck", in reference to al-Maliki, also falling in the hands of insurgents.

Judge Raouf Abdel Rahman presided over the trial of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, the successor to the judge Rizgar Amin, following the latter's resignation in protest against foreign interference in the work of the court. Following the verdict on Saddam hanging out in the October 5, 2006, and was appointed justice minister in the Kurdistan Regional Government.

Although he was seen as an advocate of human rights, but he faced charges because of the way his administration for sessions trial of Saddam and the symbols of his regime, because Thamlh defendants, for being a city of Halabja, which came to the bombing of a chemical at the end of the eighties.

Over the past week, fell several cities in northern Iraq, in the forefront of Mosul, and Tikrit, Salahuddin province, in the hands of groups of armed Sunni, led by the organization "Daash", after the withdrawal of army troops, in moves considered leaders tribal Sunni "popular revolution Sunni against injustice and sectarian government (Prime Minister outgoing Nuri) al-Maliki, the Shiite, "while the frequency of the authorities as" attacks from terrorist groups."

 

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Sun, 06/22/2014 - 08:49 | 4882377 LostandFound
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This shit is unravelling quicker every day

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 08:58 | 4882393 Momauguin Joe
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Toyota's and Nike sneakers, getting it done.

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:08 | 4882418 kliguy38
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Karma's a bitch......bitchezz

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:23 | 4882452 BurningFuld
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Just trying to keep track here. The US wants the Sunnis to win in Syria and lose in Iraq. Is that right?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:26 | 4882463 SWRichmond
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Collaborator-bashing is absolutely my favorite part.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:43 | 4882495 max2205
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OT but how do you evacuate 400k people?

 

At least 26 dead, 337,000 evacuated as storms hit southern China - @dpa

 

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:46 | 4882500 NoDebt
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Slightly OT as well, but here's what our allies say about us in private:

http://news.yahoo.com/report-polish-minister-says-us-ties-worthless-1025...

He pretty much nails it.  Imagine what lesser allies think of us.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:54 | 4882511 The Internation...
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Hey.  I know many of you have done virtually all the rabbit hole digging there is to do - conspiracies, jewish racism and control, government oppression, liberal agenda, agenda 21, on and on and on.

However, did you know... LOL I learned this with a good degree of certainty.  Scientology seems pretty fuckin legit & everything I heard about it, appears to be an outright lie.

[[[Only done 24 hours worth of research]]] I can't believe I'm saying that, I know.  Hell I woke up to the anonymous discussion of scientology being evil.  It would appear otherwise. 

To the wise I would say look more deeply into this subject.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:12 | 4882557 Publicus
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"Iraq is nothing without me" - Saddam Hussein 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:17 | 4882572 Pool Shark
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 "Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked."

[We have come full circle - Life imitates art...]

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:45 | 4882621 jbvtme
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is isis controlled opposition and this incident part of the theatre?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:26 | 4883035 whotookmyalias
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Let's bring back this guy: 

 

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

 

I NOW INFORM YOU THAT YOU ARE TOO FAR FROM REALITY.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:32 | 4883072 7.62x54r
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Being a US ally is usually an eventual death sentance.

Maybe this is why Obama is helping AQ now? Being our friend is certainly far more dangerous than being our enemy.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 16:00 | 4883474 Raymond K Hessel
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Way off topic but has anyone seen the map of the second largest religions after Christianity by state in the US?

 

Here is the BI column 

 

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 17:17 | 4883639 zerozulu
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more I think more it looks like all this adventure was to get rid of old ammunition so MIC can start building new stuff and stay in business.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 21:22 | 4884260 0b1knob
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< Ironic.

< Tragic.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 21:40 | 4884270 Manthong
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Great PBS documentary about Missionary Ridge tonight ..

“if only our men had held their ground”

What part of that lesson was not told to 35K or so Iraqis.

oh.. and Chris Martenson has an interesting take on land.


First part about defense is that you have to be willing to take a hit.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 21:54 | 4884316 BellyBrain
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ISIS EXPOSED 100% AS CIA OPERATION: "The Next Bin Laden is Here" - Don't Be Fooled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeDN-lJl7ho

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 22:10 | 4884345 Manthong
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crud..I was hoping that ISIS would be exposed as a100% backed CIA op dedicated to peace and love.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 04:08 | 4884801 svayambhu108
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A lot of silence from Jordan...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 05:13 | 4884829 gold-is-not-dead
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The judge sentenced Saddam and went to ask for asylum in the UK. The judge. 

Am I the only one sensing the Monty Python moment?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 16:12 | 4883498 Sean7k
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Wake me when ISIS gets Dick Cheney and George Bush and executes them...

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 22:38 | 4884419 RaceToTheBottom
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Collection for the Cheney to Iraq!!!!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 15:56 | 4883467 algol_dog
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Anybody else wonder what the Fuck these people eat out in those Mid-East deserts? I lived in Phoenix for a stint and can only imagine Iraq as the same. Tough enough to sustain life with a congenial population, let alone a bunch of raiding marauders and despots. How the Hell do they survive?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 18:48 | 4883889 MeMadMax
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Why do you think they are running wild taking all these small towns and shit?

That's what keeps them going: Taking other peoples' shit.

 

They did it in syria for how many years now?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 19:33 | 4884033 bunnyswanson
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There are orders in place not to bomb the Traveling Taco Trucks.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:47 | 4882622 The Big Ching-aso
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Just re-released a classic in the ME.......

'Here Comes The Dead Judge'

Dewey 'Pigmeat' Markhammed

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:06 | 4882817 karutzar
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And he was right you know...

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 22:42 | 4884429 RECISION
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"Iraq is nothing without me" - Saddam Hussein 

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"Après moi, le déluge".

.

Same shit - different century.

They all think they are special - and indispensable...

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:57 | 4882655 rubiconsolutions
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"Scientology seems pretty fuckin legit & everything I heard about it, appears to be an outright lie."

You are suffering from TIS - Temporary Inspiration Syndrome. 24 hours of research? 

"To the wise I would say look more deeply into this subject."

I did the research vicariously by way of a family member who lost their wealth and their life for a period of time and that was enough for me. Get out while you can. 

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:16 | 4882692 Renewable Life
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"Lost their wealth" being the key point in your statement!!

Enough said!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:19 | 4882846 cynicalskeptic
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Founding your own religion is the fastest way to get filthy rich.... paraphrasing Scientology's founder

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:28 | 4882877 magnetosphere
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im working on it

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 18:49 | 4883893 MeMadMax
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I'm going long on the cult of obama till 2016, after that i'm shorting it to death...

^.^

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 22:42 | 4884432 RaceToTheBottom
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The religion of PEZ.  Everyone gets a PEZ dispenser.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 15:06 | 4883337 shouldvekilledthem
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So $20-30K for an audit is not appealing for you? How about working as a slave?

"Scientology: Ripping off the ultimate retards since 1952"

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 01:09 | 4884686 Four chan
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religion:: Ripping off the ultimate retards since the year 2

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:10 | 4882824 robertocarlos
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DC9s ARE really old planes.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:35 | 4883082 7.62x54r
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But they can fly to the stars in Hubbard-ville.

Stupid clams.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:27 | 4882870 Pickleton
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We interrupt your regularly scheduled program for these words from someone who's been conned. 

 

LMAO!  You're gonna pitch a money scam to people who post on a board about taking care of their money.  No wonder you were conned, you're just not that bright.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:36 | 4882901 Dublinmick
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I am a victim oh Lord I am a victim

 

Look deeper into scientology and you will find it is under the masonic charter. Next

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:14 | 4882997 localspaced
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Sounds like a waste of time. Tom Cruise is a member....

All I needed to know really.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:38 | 4883096 7.62x54r
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The Masons only allow people who follow some form of religion, so they need to list what are "religions" for acceptance into the freemasons.

This also includes Taoism, and The Church of the SubGenius. So don't read too much into that.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 00:52 | 4884666 IndyPat
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Don't fuck with Bob.

He opened my third eye...and made me a fisher of wallets.

And I got my slack back....

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 17:30 | 4883688 fishmonger
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Kooky....

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:25 | 4882711 Buck Johnson
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He does nails it and how.  It's a one way street with US ties, because in the US we always want to be on the winning side of any situation or deal, if not then we get mad and take our ball home.  If you don't do this for us, we destroy you.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 14:52 | 4883290 Pee Wee
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Nonsense, pollocks hate you for your Fascist freedom.

Rinse, repeat.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 15:58 | 4883469 BC6
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Otis (Day and the Knights)? He LOVES us!!!

Mind if we dance wid ur dates?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:17 | 4882569 Boomberg
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Not OT at all. This job calls for ISIS, who can evacuate more than twice that number quickly. 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/20/world/meast/iraq-crisis/

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:32 | 4882478 Dick Buttkiss
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There is only one word for the US's foreign policy and military strategy:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clusterfuck

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 19:59 | 4884072 rbg81
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They really just want all the refugees to immigrate here.  Our country need more Islam!

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 01:33 | 4884716 SheHunter
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not that complicated BurningFund.  We just need to have as many middle east and third-world countries as possible in constant turmoil so as to keep our true MIC government Lockheed, Boeing, Blackwater et al raking in the profits.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:06 | 4882670 G.O.O.D
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What goes around comes around.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 16:20 | 4883517 mkkby
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Yep, a judge who collaborates with an invading army.  When they leave he gets what he deserves.

What happens when SHTF here?  All those officials who pissed on the people's constitutional rights have some explining to do... and then hopefully a date with a rope.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 00:55 | 4884670 IndyPat
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Starting with "the Press"...

Can't wait until they are against the wall.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 08:58 | 4882394 TheReplacement
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Hardly.  It is all going according to plan.  Of course the plan is not really for our benefit but all the same, it is someone's plan.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:24 | 4882455 El Oregonian
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"Climate Change" Al Gore was right about climate change although I don't think he was considering Iraq when he said it (although he was indirectly responsible as a Geo. Bush front-man) and because the overall "Climate" there has decidedly heated up quite significantly.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:44 | 4882614 MsCreant
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I don't think they heard your sarcasm and word play. The political climate change over there has indeed been radical.

Think before you junk, fellow hedgers.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:00 | 4882658 El Oregonian
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Thank you MsCreant. I am glad you saw the sarcasm. The reference was to the idiocy of Gore's conclusion on "Climate Change" referenced by the "Heating up" of the overall criminality of the past Administration's using Iraq as their distraction.

But alas, if only one person can clearly see my sarcasm it was worth the post.

*sigh*

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:39 | 4883101 7.62x54r
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Sarcasm hard!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 21:38 | 4884280 bag holder
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That shit has more impact with brevity. "Gore was right about climate change! It sure is heating up in Iraq."

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:23 | 4882704 _ConanTheLibert...
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Climate Change You Can Believe In

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:34 | 4882895 steve2241
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If you can take the heat, you can keep the heat!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:31 | 4882473 ElvisDog
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If you think what is happening is part of some larger plan, then you are certifiable. What is happening is that groups and individuals are taking advantage of opportunities and power/leadership vacuums to take things from other people. Same as throughout human history. Stop watching TV and movies where councils of evildoers come up with master plans for world domination. Think Occam's Razor to understand what is happening in the world today.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:19 | 4882576 falconflight
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Jesus, I was wondering how long before someone dared to suggest Occam's Razor in all matters great and small.  Thank you Sir

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:22 | 4882702 CrazyCooter
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Sort of like "never assume malice when incompetance will suffice". Reading that for the first time when I was much younger really changed my life ... I am vastly less paranoid than I was before reading it. Sometimes it is malice, but more often than not people, or the system, is just fucking retarded.

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:38 | 4882724 COSMOS
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Yeah but your dismisal of conspiracy theories forgets one important factor, it takes financing to get things done.  Bankers have always provided it, just as it takes money to lay down a pipeline or purchase guns and bullets.  You think some camel herder all of a sudden has the means to buy a brand new 4x4 hilux and gas and a spanking new machine gun to mount in the back including brand new AR15s for the guys in the front cab and a ton of ammo.  LOL, yeah the only thing he can afford on his own is a Razor to shave with but looking at those guys with beards it doesnt seem like Occam's Razor is anywhere around.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:42 | 4882916 Dublinmick
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There is no freedom in a bastille of lies

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 16:00 | 4883475 ElvisDog
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I'm not saying that individuals, groups, companies, banks, etc. don't have plans to get more "stuff" from other people. Of course they do. What I'm saying is this multitude of entities are not coordinating their activities as part of some World Dominance Master Plan. They are looking out for their own self-interests. If they think they can temporarily align with another group to further their goals they will.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 16:02 | 4883478 ebear
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What, bankers don't screw up?  How about rearming Germany in the 30's?   They were supposed to roll East, dammit, not SOUTH!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:08 | 4882677 Mr Pink
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Oh yes, because creating instability, perpetual wars and creative ways to transfer weapons and funds to rebels has nevvveeerrr been the plan before!

I must be certifiable!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:34 | 4882733 Renewable Life
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What's funny is.......your BOTH right!
The "plan" or more accurately described "agenda" is and always has been only one fucking thing, transfer the oil resources from Iraq to the west, in the cheapest and easiest manner possible, period! How do you do that? No one gives two shits, just "make it happen"!
Which of course, is no plan at all!
Buying tyrants was good for a time, but they always get expensive and hard to manage! Which is not part of the long term plan! Chaos is cheaper and easier to manage and manipulate, but the oil flowing is very unreliable and that's not part of the plan!!
So it's a classic Catch 22 over there, and always will be!!
Is American Foreign Policy stupidity at work in Iraq, of course, is it operating within the context of anything planned, organized, educated, or resembling a coherent strategy, absolutely fucking NOT!!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:42 | 4883108 7.62x54r
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Agree.

The inner elites are both malevolent, and really fucking stupid.

Never assume there is a choice between malevolence and stupidity when both are probably present.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 15:33 | 4883410 luckylogger
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I have said this befor and if they ever figure this out all the better. 

The Fuking Oil is Ours.........

End of argument.....

We will give you some money for it (fiat).....

You can have all the sand you want.

The Fuking Oil is Ours.........

The sooner you crazy stupid muslioms or what ever the fuk you are figure it out the better my life will be!!!!!!!!!!

Get a fuking grip............

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:16 | 4883005 thamnosma
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You're taking all the fun out of it

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:53 | 4883135 bidaskspread
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I am certifiable because somehow it's hard to believe this steaming pile of shit came out on a whim. Hey guys, what doing this weekend? Well if you got some time, I got a couple of crates of weapons that came out of thin air, want to overthrow the government? I am still working on that Intel and strategic assets. F-it, let's wing it.

We don't call it world domination, we called it "freedom" or democracy. The overall plan is to provide this to everyone if they need or not. If they rebel, we have weapons or economic sanctions that will squeeze the current government out of power and this will continue until we get a government that sees freedom and democracy like us. This thinking typically aligns it's self with corporate agendas to ensure bottom line growth. This plan also never ends given a need for constant growth. This what my certifiable brain tells me.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 16:07 | 4883490 ElvisDog
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Again, my point is there is not One Plan. Every group has its own plan, but the Russian plan is not compatible with the U.S. plan, which is not compatible with Iran's plan, which is not compatible with China's plan, which is not compatible with ISIS's plan, and so on.

BTW, the U.S. "plan" as far as I can tell is to litter the Middle East with splintered failed states involved in factional and/or reigious conflict. Somehow, the psychopaths in charge of our government think the splintered states will be easier to handle than stable states like Hussein-era Iraq.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 17:24 | 4883671 PhilofOz
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The U.S. littering the Middle East with splintered failed states achieves what for them besides very expensive oil often then out of reach of US companies? It seems there is only one country this can really benefit, and that is Israel.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 23:40 | 4884572 bidaskspread
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Divide and conquer. Focus the masses on diversions meanwhile you empty the cash register. You need weapons for the cause, we'll sell them to you; just going to need some form of payment. No money? What else do you have? Those commodities would work. We have a few people that know how to move these things, would you be alright with having them come in to operate this production. Alright sounds good, tell you what if I toss in some additional arms and training would you provide security. Great, this going to be a fantastic partnership.

Fast forward a few years. Hey, I am hearing you are requesting higher prices for these commodities and selling to our competitors. You know, this really is putting us in a bind.Still not willing to work with us, I understand.

A third party enters the equation. Hey, you look hungry and want your people to prosper. Here have some money. Tell you what, it doesn't need to be this hard. In fact, I know this guy that has these assets that could work for both of us. You just need to take them over and I'll run them. I will also provide weapons for the cause. I am really excited about this new partnership.

Repeat and repeat until there is nothing of value remaining. Create a constant dependency for the items you have in order to get the items you want. Splintering countries to have constant chaos, and being the supplier of both sides for arms ensures the items you desire are likely going to continue. This is what I see over there.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 01:05 | 4884680 IndyPat
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See Nike Cage song "Red Right Hand"

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:00 | 4882397 booboo
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So crony Just Us system administrators take note.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:01 | 4882527 sessinpo
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  booboo   So crony Just Us system administrators take note.

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Yea, think about what you just said.

Is a judge under such pressure likely to bend to extremists because of fear of being beheaded for trying to execute the judicial system no matter what rediculous laws are in place?

Is Iraq's judicial system to less corrupt with Isis in control because they execute judges? Did you think that through?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:14 | 4882562 booboo
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So how does apply to the US Just Us system to which I was referencing. Normalcy Bias says the judges and prosecutors can continue to the very end and walk away Scott free without any threat of reprisal? As for this guy, As honorable as he may have been, he chose poorly if as you indicated he bends to the whims and edicts of his masters under threat, he chose to stay and collect his US booty of which your children on on the hook.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:05 | 4882409 caShOnlY
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"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"

(can't wait till ISIS hits the crawford ranch, that sucker could be sold on pay per view at $500 a pop!)

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:24 | 4882435 Grande Tetons
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The crawford ranch kids will be A ok.  George was no mastermind in the fate of Iraq. Everybody knows this including George. 

Junkers, do not confuse Gilligan with Captain Kirk. 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:04 | 4882667 Confused
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I'm amazed that anyone could possibly disagree with what you said. Unless of course, they just saw the name George, and are so firmly entrenched in the Red/Blue battle that they had the impulse to junk you. 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:20 | 4882849 Anusocracy
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I liked the idea of Saddam And Bush having a duel.

I would have paid to watch.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:25 | 4882457 usednabused
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Ha, It might have to take place in Paraguay. Isn't that where the POS will probably hole up when things start to close iin on him? I agree though. I'd most likely fork the 500 over to see this one.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:44 | 4882735 COSMOS
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I hear from ZH that he got himself a 100K acre ranch on top of natural gas deposits and the worlds biggest aquifer in Paraguay.  Being the moron he is he will frack the gas and pollute the water.  Oh by the way apparently he is next to a US marine base in Paraguay and before he bought the ranch the govt there has passed something about not recognizing the International Court for War Crimes and not to extradite any of their residents, ever.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:26 | 4882866 cynicalskeptic
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I thought the regime there had changed and was no longer hospitable to ex-dictators ands assorted Fascists.... something about  Bush et. al. reconsidering that haven and selling it off  

but then the regime could've changed again....  the Bush family clearly has enough stashed away courtesy of the Carlyle Group to pay for such a change if they really needed it...

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:45 | 4883117 7.62x54r
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Dueling IS legal in Paraguay.

Another bonus there.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:52 | 4882939 WillyGroper
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"not recognizing the International Court for War Crimes and not to extradite any of their residents, ever."

got a link for that?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 14:34 | 4883237 Paveway IV
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That's ridiculus, COSMOS. Nobody is that evil and stupid.

Take Cheney, for instance: Cheney-Linked Company to Drill in Occupied Golan Heights 

Underneath the Golan Heights is the Kinaret Basin aqifer. Lake Kinaret = Tiberias Lake = (now called) The Sea of Galilee

Frack the Golan, maybe poison the Kinaret, maybe poison the Sea of Galilee and what's left of the Joradan River. There's oil and gas money to be made. Screw the tree-huggers (and these guys, I guess).

Like I said, Cheney is not that evil and stupid: He didn't buy a ranch there, first. Hell, it's not even legal to drill there because it's not in Israel. Anything goes wrong and they can just blame it on Syria and sue them for damages.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 01:11 | 4884687 IndyPat
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So.....that's two possible Dead Seas then?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:04 | 4882537 sessinpo
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 caShOnlY   "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"

(can't wait till ISIS hits the crawford ranch, that sucker could be sold on pay per view at $500 a pop!)

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That is retarded. Islamic extremist view YOU as the target just as much as any politician. The fact you fail to realize that, makes you cannon fodder. Congrats.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:15 | 4882563 what's that smell
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dude! go get a gun and defend us from the islamic extremist already.

why post insults when you could be doing god's work?

i'm sure you got a at least one tooth and an eye you like to give to the enemy.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:10 | 4882684 Confused
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That is retarded. Islamic extremist view YOU as the target just as much as any politician. The fact you fail to realize that, makes you cannon fodder. Congrats.

 

This may or may not be the case. I don't really have an extremist friends. However, from what I have seen in my life (someone correct me if I'm wrong) there are magnitudes more 'regular' people being killed in the name of stopping extremism, which in turn creates more 'extremists.' 

 

And no. He, nor I, nor anyone else here, would be cannon fodder if we never step foot in someone elses country to impose our will. 

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 14:04 | 4883160 Chief Wonder Bread
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Isn't the term 'Islamic extremist' sort of redundant?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:14 | 4882561 falconflight
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Are you Sunni or Shia; Wahabbist or purveyor of the "hidden imam?"    Perhaps merely a typical Van Jones Alinski type?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:26 | 4882713 logicalman
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Soon we'll all be blind and eating through a straw.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 23:05 | 4884492 Canadian Dirtlump
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So. Does this lend credence to my posts which say the sole significant survivor from the former govt izzat ibrahim al duri's organized militias are really in charge rather than isis?

 

The fun may come if al duri needs to fight isis. Either way iraq isnt falling unl3ss the west not only wants it to but makes it.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:06 | 4882380 rwe2late
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 brings to mind thoughts like:

karma

what goes around comes around

let he who is without sin cast the first stone

etc.

 

[addendum - maybe some of the downvoters forget that the invasion was illegal,

and the "trial" (determined behind the scenes by the US)  was a mockery

intended to Keep Saddam from spilling the beans about shady past US involvement in the Mideast].

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:03 | 4882535 Son of Loki
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Look at the bright side; they get to be with those 12 Virgins sooner rather then later.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:02 | 4882663 Zwelgje
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12 !?

I thought you would get 72? Austerity in heaven?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:24 | 4882709 CrazyCooter
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Did anyone tell them the 72 virgins look like Helen Thomas and Janet Napoletano?

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:27 | 4882714 logicalman
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That's why they's virgins!

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:24 | 4882861 Anusocracy
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More than illegal, the invasion was wrong.

Initiating aggression is wrong.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:26 | 4883042 worbsid
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The 72 virgins are Catholic Nuns.  :-)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--ek68m6Ew4

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 01:18 | 4884699 IndyPat
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Said it before and I'll say it again.
Give me 6 seasoned whores over 72 virgins any day.

Shit man, can you imaging 72 girls chatting about Miley or the Kardashians 24x7x365?
That's hell.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 23:06 | 4884496 Canadian Dirtlump
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The killing was arranged by the king of clubs in the old US deck of cards. Not isis.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:17 | 4882382 AssFire
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How can one not think of John Roberts, who sentenced our nation to death?

Let's not forget 41, the first person to openly use the term "New World Order" either.

Cock suckers sold us out.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:55 | 4882518 Chupacabra-322
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You're on fire, AssFire. It's Exactly what needs the be done to the Supreme Court Criminals here as well as their Cohorts.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:07 | 4882543 sessinpo
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AssFire    Let's not forget 41, the first person to openly use the term "New World Order" either.

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Try again, NWO was used prior to Bush Sr. Wilson and Churchill used it and it goes back even further with some real digging. History repeats, rince repeat. Learn it.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 14:39 | 4883258 Jumbotron
Sun, 06/22/2014 - 14:42 | 4883269 Rusty Shorts
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Correct. 

 

Novus ordo seclorum (Latin for "New order of the ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:10 | 4882549 falconflight
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You 30 plus thumbs up maybe might perhaps take a few minutes to read up on President Wilson.  GHW Bush isn't the first to reference a new world order.  But Wilson obviously and openly minimized the importance of the Constitution and was of course instrumental in the passage of the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution and the institutionalization of the Federal Reserve.    The US had it's Socialist revolution before the Bolsheviks in 1917.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:51 | 4882775 Renewable Life
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References to a "New World Order" go back to the Roman Empire!!

It's code language, it's been around for millenniums! If your hip to the codes translation, it makes a lot of sense why it's being said at that moment, if your not, you think it's about whatever YOU think it's about! (Like Bush 41, or some religious silliness)

Either way it serves it's purpose!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:52 | 4882938 Dublinmick
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22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)

23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 15:12 | 4883351 DrewJackson
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How many Tank Corps does the Pope command? 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 21:19 | 4884251 logicalman
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He doesn't have to contol tank corps if he controls the commanders thereof.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 06:19 | 4884865 nidaar
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Um, can be traced back to Alexander the Great, or even the Neolithic revolution

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:58 | 4882953 WillyGroper
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Better get in the wayback machine & give Ronnie RayGun a listen. 

He also used NWO.

Not the saint he's made out to be.

For the one who cut funding for the states mental hospitals & turned the insane out on the streets to end up in jails & prison, his ending was rather fitting. Dontcha think?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 20:47 | 4884175 Dublinmick
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Absolutely Raygun spent money furiously financing Ixraeli general Rios Monte in his extermination of the Guatemalan indians. They were branded as communists  ... most likely because they didn not want to work at walmart.

Ronnie's lwn daughter wpould not speak to him, she probably found out he was a pedo.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:14 | 4887810 WillyGroper
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meet me in chat if you get a chance.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:48 | 4883126 7.62x54r
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The sellout happened when Hamilton rammed through that coup de tat called the constitution. Jefferson's Bill of Rights was an attempt at damage control.

Read that motto on the reverse of the seal on the back of a dollar bill some time.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 20:49 | 4884179 Dublinmick
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Hamilton was Rothschild's son in law. Jackson's vice president shot him.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 00:53 | 4884668 7.62x54r
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Jefferson's, actually. Aaron Burr. Damned fine shot. That belly wound took hours to kill him.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:17 | 4887819 WillyGroper
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Whatd'ya say we dig him up & shoot him again?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 08:54 | 4882386 agent default
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Karma is a bitch.  Bitchez.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 08:57 | 4882392 XitSam
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Bush 43 was unavailable for comment.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:02 | 4882399 Grande Tetons
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He is busy! 

http://media.salon.com/2013/03/Screen-Shot-2013-03-21-at-9.43.26-AM.png

Kinda like ole Bushy Jr. No Habit for Humanity...save the world nonsense. Fuck that, I am gonna paint puppies. 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:27 | 4882588 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Maybe he can paint some pictures of the white house on fire with mobs of people over-running the District of Criminals. I would buy one of those.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:53 | 4882638 Grande Tetons
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It is best to think of George as Fredo with better luck mixed with a learning disabilty.  

Nope, George will be sticking to painting puppies. 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 09:02 | 4882398 JustObserving
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Did he get his mock trial before his execution?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:02 | 4882533 falconflight
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Is that what Saddam received, a mock trial?  Please elucidate for this uneducated, brainwashed, bleating sheeple by what measure Saddam was star chambered.  I know since you sport the user id of "JustObserving" you should have no difficulty whatsoever answering with a laundry list of mitigating, exculpatory evidence banned from his defense.  

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:21 | 4882575 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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I didn't pay attention to the trial since I knew it would be a farce. But I do remember when some of Saddam's prison guards had some good things to say about him, USSA state media quickly ran with more dehumanizing propaganda. That's all I need to know.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:05 | 4882809 Yes We Can. But...
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Saddam had to hang cuz he was like an ace in that deck of cards

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 17:28 | 4883684 falconflight
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lol

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 10:49 | 4882635 potato
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I too don't understand. Was Saddam not a murderer? Did he not commit genocide? If ISIL likes him, what does that say about Saddam?

Someone please explain.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:30 | 4882723 CrazyCooter
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Generally speaking, when it comes to MENA, the enemy of your enemy of your cousin of your enemy of your enemy of your religious group of your uncle of your enemy of your enemy is your friend.

That is why everyone kills evveryone else.

Hope that clear it up!

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:02 | 4882661 rwe2late
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falcon,

you miss the forest for the trees.

Saddam was executed under the auspices of an illegal occupying foreign military, led by blatant war criminals.

The "trial" and, for all intents and purposes, dictated outcome was intended to silence Saddam, not provide an open defense.

You ask for the impossible, exculpatory and mitigating evidence and arguments never allowed to be made public by Saddam or his co-defendants.

The judge was not to the slightest degree impartial.

The occupying forces and installed government then went on to commit many of the same crimes Saddam was sentenced (torture, assassinations, mass killings, corruption, etc.).

Given the full circumstances under which it was conducted, it was a show trial,

to carry out another murder of another Iraqi for the political reasons of the occupying forces.

The argument "he got what he deserved" is therefore not a legal judgement, but a criminal's excuse based in self-righteous hubris. to soothe the consciences, and ignore the crimes for an illegal unwarranted war based on a pack of lies, resulting in deaths and misery for millions.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:07 | 4882818 Renewable Life
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Articulately and perfectly spoken, any questions "Falcon"????

I didn't think so, but in case you attempt to pop off some more completely propagandized bullshit, let me cut your brain off before it's started with.......

No fucking argument you make is valid, until you get past the American MSM/Government bullshit lie, that invading Countries that have done absolutely nothing to your Country (except refuse to bow to your economic lordship over them) is not fucking legal, moral, or constitutional!!! Period

And by you thinking your bullshit Manifest Destiny psychological disorder absolves you of these crimes, it's makes you the exact same human being Saddam Hussein was!

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 17:27 | 4883679 falconflight
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The health of the forest requires attention to individual trees....

Since the term "illegal" was chosen, I will respond specifically and factually.  US forces in Iraq was quite legal, not only pursuant to a Congressional resolution authorizing military action against the Iraqi government, but under UN Resolutions, and again specifically a resolution authorizing military force against the Iraqi government.  Several questions arise as to the lawfulness and/or constitutionality of US government actions regarding this issue.  

Under what criteria, and concerning which individual's actions constituted "war crimes?"  Please allow me to refer to the above authorizations by the national government and the international governing body, Is the assertion that actions were taken by specific individuals that were outside of what was authorized?

I am very curious as to what defense was silenced by the Iraqi interim government, assuming such a defense would if permitted may have possibly mitigated, if not absolved Saddam of any legal culpability for actions taken by him personally and/or by the most senior of officials within his government during the course of his rein.   I did not watch the various trials, nor read any trial transcripts (if any English versions even exist) of Saddam's principal officials such as 'Chemical Ali,' whom I believe was related by blood with Saddam.   I am not aware of Chemical Ali denying the use of chemical weapons against the Kurds and Shia.  Nor am I aware of any denial of the thousands of square miles of vegetation in the southern marshes destroyed in order to commit wholesale atrocities against those marsh Shia.    I do recall that many witnesses were called to testify about the activities and decisions made by Saddam and 50 odd senior Iraqi officials under indictment.  

It is not asking for the impossible, if it is claimed, as I am assuming the many posters here believe that the charges levied against him were false, fraudulent, or constituted  any number of possible examples of malfeasance, such as entrapment.  What was it that the judge did or failed to do that showed a wanton and reckless lack of impartiality?  People are making these very strong declarative statements, so is it not reasonable to ask for an explanation?  

I am not aware of a single example of the "occupying forces," and in actuality, the "installed" government (I am assuming this is in reference to the interim gov't prior to national elections). committing "many of the same crimes Saddam was sentenced."  Although I am unaware of any organized and sanctioned torture or assassinations by the elected Iraqi gov't troops/security forces, certainly I wouldn't be surprised that such activities occurred on an individualized basis.  As to "mass murder" as alleged, I think it reasonable for some evidence supporting such a serious assertion.    As to corruption, what is there to say?  Corruption is endemic in just about any human endeavor, and particularly in the realm of government.  I don't even understand why the matter of corruption is raised.  Are those who supplanted Saddam's regime required to walk in the shoes of the Prophet in order to be righteous and  justified? 

I certainly cannot ascribe to the position that Saddam was executed for "political" reasons, since that very same claim could be applied to any crime or infraction committed by anyone so charged. 

Whether Saddam "got what he deserved" who knows.  He could die but once.  He certainly avoided the plethora of torture techniques available and practiced by Saddam's government over some 35 years in power.  

Finally, the military actions instituted by the US, and I assume by the other nations whom participated, were without a doubt "legal."  Whether that action was "warranted" is a debate worth having, but it is a different debate.  I am confident that there was no "pack of lies" proffered by the Bush Administration regarding Saddam Hussein's regime.  For how many years did the US (primarily) conduct aviation operations against the Iraqi government beginning in 1992, following the Desert Storm War of 1992?  How many nations participated in that war ostensively to remove Iraq's military from Kuwait?

 

 

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 19:53 | 4884018 rwe2late
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"The trial, Bush assured the American public, was “a milestone in the Iraqi people’s efforts to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law.” Yet there was little that could be regarded as fair and legal about the proceedings. The court itself was established at the Bush Administration’s behest. U.S. dollars financed the proceedings, and U.S. officials provided aid, training and direct involvement. The trial was fraught with problems. Three of Hussein’s lawyers were murdered and many defense witnesses were intimidated into silence. There was little in the proceedings that could justify reference to “the rule of law.” The trial was a U.S.-directed effort, intended to paint the occupation of Iraq in the best light."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/selective-justice-and-the-trial-of-saddam-h...

"Firstly a court set up by his enemies has no right to try Saddam Hussein. Since the inception of the trial, the International Committee and the Panel of Lawyers in the defence of President Saddam Hussein have repeatedly pointed out that the court set up by an illegal occupying power has no jurisdiction whatsoever to conduct the said proceedings. If Saddam Hussein is to be tried, it should be by an international court of judges drawn from countries uninvolved in the Iraqi invasion and occupation. The members of the International Committee have demanded that in order for justice to be done and seen to be done, the trial court and the judges must be independent and without bias, and be able to discharge their duties without fear or favour. The Chief Judge that presided in the early part of the proceedings resigned in protest against the blatant interference by the Iraqi regime installed by the occupying power. He was replaced by a judge who had no qualms in disregarding all established principles of fair trial and was willing to hand down a judgment inconsistent with the evidence adduced."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/on-the-trial-of-saddam-hussein-court-set-up...
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You are quite incorrect to claim the UN authorized the invasion.
The security council never voted for an invasion, and would not have (France, China, or Russia) had a vote been taken. Bush & Blair decided on their own how alleged non-cooperation would be dealt with. That's not how it is legally done. Individual members are not authorized to decide how or whether to enforce cooperation with the UN.
Even a simple Wikipedia search would have informed you of that.
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As for your being "not aware of a single example" of crimes of torture, assassination, mass killings, or corruption committed by the occupiers or its installed puppet government,
that marks you as either an ignorant fool or insane.

Feel free to do a Google search "Iraq war crimes" and peruse the 2 million plus results on your own.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 22:37 | 4884417 Lin S
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Bitch, please.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 01:30 | 4884713 IndyPat
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Please provide a link to the congressionally passed declaration of war.

While you're at it, please link to bin Laden's indictment.

That is all.

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 11:33 | 4882722 logicalman
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If you believe that the law is applied without bias, you are totally stupid.

Steal $100, you'll be prosecuted.

Steal $billions you'll get a promotion.

Edit:

Kill one man and you are a murderer. Kill millions and you are a conqueror. Kill all and you are a God.

Jean Rostand

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 13:37 | 4883093 falconflight
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So you are equating Saddam Hussein with a petty thief?  And where on Jean Rostand's continuum stands Saddam?

Sun, 06/22/2014 - 21:21 | 4884254 logicalman
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Get the point, please, and don't ask dumb questions.

 

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