IRS Commissioner Koskinen Vs Darrell Issa Round II - Live Feed

Tyler Durden's picture

After last week's fireworks, we suspect this rare evening hearing will have plenty more as the major Democratic donor (and IRS Commissioner) John Koskinen faces a fresh grilling over the technuical bullshit that led to the IRS destroying subpoena'd hard drives...

 

Via FoxNation,

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen is in the spotlight as he is set to further testify to Congress regarding the IRS targeting of conservative groups.

 

It is important to remember that Koskinen has shelled out nearly $100,000 to Democratic candidates and groups.

A quick reminder of last week's theatrics (via HuffPo),

I will not tolerate your continued obstruction and game-playing in response to the Committee's investigation of the IRS targeting," Issa wrote to Koskinen. "For too long, the IRS has promised to produce requested — and later subpoenaed — documents, only to respond later with excuses and inaction."

 

"Despite your empty promises and broken commitments to cooperation, the IRS still insists on flouting Constitutional congressional oversight," Issa said.

 

Koskinen had a long record of government service before taking over as head of the IRS at the start of the year. He served in different positions under both Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, and worked for the District of Columbia.

 

"It'll be the first time in my long career of testifying anybody ever subpoenaed me but if that's the way they want to operate, that's fine with me," Koskinen said Friday. "I just got a subpoena announcing that I was to appear at 7 o'clock on Monday night with no inquiry, no request, no question whether I was even going to be in town."

Live Feed Via Wapo,

 

Chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) released a set of questions Sunday that suggests lawmakers will be digging even deeper into events surrounding the loss of the email records when Ms. Lerner’s computer hard drive failed. The questions, totaling about 50, seek details both about the hard-drive failure in mid-2011 and the agency’s later discovery that it affected the investigation, which started in 2013.

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doctor10's picture

Kabuki for the Red-Blue belivers

Four chan's picture

thats a good way to label them.^

aVileRat's picture

Well, we can at least give them points for attempting to pry the files out of the IRS. Look at it from their shoes: 1.) The feed at least will give the people a empathy for their attempts. 2.) Everyone will know the people in Congress are at least attempting with the instruments they are instructed to use, the process they have been tasked to carry out 3.) If people recognize just how limited US Congressional chairs can push on live TV, then perhaps voters themselves (and the type of questions they ask as the 4th estate) can help lead to deeper inquiries. Think of (3.) as a form of bread crumbs for the fight clubbers.

I suspect nothing will happen until a deep throat comes forward, or better yet, if Johnny places a bounty (much like those given by Congress to Privateers in the 1800's) to go "open season" on the IRS servers.

I can think of maybe 10 white hat computer teams off the top of my head who could find those emails in under 10 days. Hell, people deep inside Virgina may even do it for free if asked properly, if only to finally blow back the donor kiting which has gone on since 1993.

 

knukles's picture

Hey, it's making prime time.
That's at least a start.

And I'm getting a little jaded about the staying power of the red-blue paradigm.  I'm personally catching some very real snippets from buds on both sides of the aisle, exasperation concerning the Leviathan, not the them/us routine.
Just a personal experience....

People KNOW there's something wrong, and the size of the wrong is becoming "radically" wrong.
People as a whole by a humongoloid majority don't trust congress, the MEDIA (news), official prognostications about the economy, Obie's ratings have fallen further than even Bush2 and Carter....  I mean, it's becoming hard for the propaganda outlets to keep up the lie. 
Everybody knows....

I'm getting an impression that the facade is cracking, veneer of civilization peeling and a sense of really bad shit down the road building.
Trust in the system is plummeting.. and I do not mean by the ilks of the ZHers or alternative media....

Another Sound and Lights with no follow through?
Ya' know? 
Who cares anymore....

nmewn's picture

Its gonna be a quite a sight to behold when Alec Baldwin and Chuck Norris walk up the marbled steps of power and start kicking Reids & Boehner's asses.

You know its comin ;-)

DaddyO's picture

C'mon, this line of thinking is pure fantasy!

Just go listen to the rancor on the committee.

By the time the red/blue teams join hands and walk marble steps it will be on the steps of a defunct .gov.

I spent quite a bit of time tonight watching and I don't see anything to make me believe there's any unity anywhere.

Washington is broken and beyond repair and to think that you can send an honest man there to make a difference is sheer lunacy at this point.

Let's spend our time working at the local level because this is where we can change hearts and minds. Then and only then will we begin to see real change.

I'm one of the founders of the www.floridacitizensalliance.com and we are taking the issues to the grassroots and are seeing the lights go on.

We have hit a stonewall in Tallahassee because the leadership says it their way or the highway.

But in another breath they ask us to call off the dogs when we send email blasts outlining their stonewalling or subterfuge.

You can make a difference locally!

DaddyO

nmewn's picture

I didn't say Issa & Cummings would walk up the marbled steps together, they already do.

I said Norris & Baldwin would ;-)

What we have here is a perfect storm, the proles (left & right) do not like being spied on or dictated to. They have a growing discomfort with the "new idea" that their representatives are not really representing them but the state apparatus. There is an inate understanding of the issue at hand vis-a-vis with right & wrong, when a vast & powerful multi-billion dollar bureaucracy cannot retain its own records for our review but demands us under penalty of jail, fine, penalty, forfeiture of property or death that we do.

Its timeless.

NeedtoSecede's picture

Good call DaddyO. The District of Corruption is beyond hope and beyond repair. Look after yourself and your family and then work out from there. Strong individual, strong family, strong neighborhood, strong town may help survive and rebuild when this shitshow clowncar clusterfuck finally implodes from the corruption and rot.

Secession keeps looking better doesn't it bitchez?

doctor10's picture

Kabuki for the Red-Blue belivers

cynicalskeptic's picture

Should be an argument for eliminating the IRS - abuse by BOTH parties but no........

y3maxx's picture

...""DENY, DENY, DENY""....IF THAT DON'T WORK THEN ""BAFFLE THEM WITH BULLSHIT""...

thamnosma's picture

Yeah, I suppose we should do nothing instead. 

gmrpeabody's picture

It does sound as if they are suggesting that...,

just saying.

firstdivision's picture

Make sure you put your wallet in your front pocket before watching

nmewn's picture

Issa: You're late.

Koskinen: (smirking) I lost my car keys.

Atomizer's picture

This ought to be entertaining. 

lakecity55's picture

Congressman, you assume there are Laws to be considered. What a quaint notion. We serve The Tyrant, and only The Tyrant.

The Tyrant is The Law, and The Law is The Tyrant.

Row Well Number 41's picture

I miss Bugs.   Newman is a leach.

Just say'n.

#41

Jerk_Store's picture

Congressman, you assume there are Laws to be considered. What a quaint notion. We serve The Tyrant, and only The Tyrant.

The Tyrant is The Law, and The Law is The Tyrant.

 

Settle down Newman.

BlindMonkey's picture

"IRS Commissioner Koskinen Vs Darrell Issa"

My money is on the useless blowhard. 10-1. Any takers?

kchrisc's picture

Which worthless blowhard?

ThroxxOfVron's picture

The worhtless will worthlessly blow hardest.  The survival of the worthlessest is at stake...

The blow hardest will blow hard most worthlessly.  The survival of the blow hardest is at stake...

Red will huff until they turn blue. 

The blues will get red in the face.

 

Nothing changes until the Congress is permenantly dimantled.

Nothing will change until the Executive and IRS are permenantly dismantled.

The system is the problem and can never be the solution.

kaiserhoff's picture

It's always the cover up that gets them.  Just imagine...

Odumpster going out on a banana peel.   Tres chic!

 

 

disabledvet's picture

This is better than firing.

"No, your resignation is not accepted either. See you on Wednesday. I expect you to start calling some people out on this one.

In full public view.

Money laundering is not tax deductible."

kchrisc's picture

Lying piece of shit pol vs lying piece of shit crat.

Get ready to snooze.

 

Chupacabra-322's picture

It's a Criminal Sytem, Owned by Criminal & run by Criminals. Break out the Gullitines.

Wannabee's picture

Nah, nothing to see here. Both met about 2 hrs prior and rehearsed the script.

kchrisc's picture

You know that true.

One almost expects to see one of them forget a line and ask the script-keeper for it.

“Pssst. Is this where I feign contempt?”

 

boattrash's picture

Bingo! Is there any other way to explain this: the POS kept crying about being too broke to cover $30 Million system, yet I failed to hear anybody ask what IRS paid out in bonuses. Will try to link it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/19/sen-grassley-says-irs-to-pay-...

fonzannoon's picture

Issa: There's a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.

Koskinen: (blank stare, confused)

Issa: AHHH I'M JUST FUCKIN WITH YA! Beers later?

Atomizer's picture

Where did that little weasel take off to. Potty break? 

nmewn's picture

He's trying to get his story straight with Mzzz. Nikole Flax...former chief of staff for former IRS commissioner Steven Miller.

See, its all fixed! Move along serf!

Atomizer's picture

You never cisis to amaze me. Creating hardcore comedy keeps me alive. Thank you. 

nmewn's picture

lol...they do provide an abundance of material.

Nope, can't guarantee granny her check or vet benis but we can damned sure get Stingers to ISIS and AK's to Mexico and oil onto Warrens new train set he got for Christmas and birth control pills to law grads at prestigious universities.

Yessir buddy...lol.

sschu's picture

Until they are prepared to start arresting these people and tossing them in jail, we can assume this is all just a show.

How anyone can look at this and not be outraged is beyond me.  

Hey Issa, Ryan etal, perp walk this guy or go home.

sschu

Seasmoke's picture

We know what needs to be done. Yet no one does anything. So here we are, the Tribe is getting away with the crimes. 

Atomizer's picture

Use their tactics, seize his assets. Tit for tat. 

Bay of Pigs's picture

Cummins is a lying piece of shit.

stormsailor's picture

cummins is a complete full-circle talking partisan idiot that doesn't know a hard drive from a sunday drive.

stormsailor's picture

house needs to hold head of irs in contempt and arrest him tonight.  then defund all the irs, right now.  show them their constitutional authority for the first time. executive has been in their face for 5 years daring them to do anything.  use this to shut them down.

sschu's picture

Arrest him and start a constitutional crisis over this.  Let's see the news on the front page of the NY Times for weeks and see what people think.  Refuse to release him.

Come on boys, start playing hard ball.

sschu

 

 

ThroxxOfVron's picture

This is already a Constitutional Crisis. 

The existence of the IRS is a Constitutional Crisis.

stormsailor's picture

thank god that retard is out of hot air, i feel stupider just listening.   like i inhaled a 20 oz bottle of poppers in a row

Atomizer's picture

Stop fucking talking. Let the guy talk and give him enough rope to hang himself. 

ebworthen's picture

N.S.A. lost the emails too, but they have 300 Trillion exchanged between teenagers in the past 10 years.

nmewn's picture

Sonasoft has the emails.

Unless all their computers & servers crashed too ;-)

kaiserhoff's picture

We know damn well Mossad has them. 

Security data sharing and all.  Good time to test their retrieval systems.