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IRS Commissioner Koskinen Vs Darrell Issa Round II - Live Feed

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After last week's fireworks, we suspect this rare evening hearing will have plenty more as the major Democratic donor (and IRS Commissioner) John Koskinen faces a fresh grilling over the technuical bullshit that led to the IRS destroying subpoena'd hard drives...

 

Via FoxNation,

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen is in the spotlight as he is set to further testify to Congress regarding the IRS targeting of conservative groups.

 

It is important to remember that Koskinen has shelled out nearly $100,000 to Democratic candidates and groups.

A quick reminder of last week's theatrics (via HuffPo),

I will not tolerate your continued obstruction and game-playing in response to the Committee's investigation of the IRS targeting," Issa wrote to Koskinen. "For too long, the IRS has promised to produce requested — and later subpoenaed — documents, only to respond later with excuses and inaction."

 

"Despite your empty promises and broken commitments to cooperation, the IRS still insists on flouting Constitutional congressional oversight," Issa said.

 

Koskinen had a long record of government service before taking over as head of the IRS at the start of the year. He served in different positions under both Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, and worked for the District of Columbia.

 

"It'll be the first time in my long career of testifying anybody ever subpoenaed me but if that's the way they want to operate, that's fine with me," Koskinen said Friday. "I just got a subpoena announcing that I was to appear at 7 o'clock on Monday night with no inquiry, no request, no question whether I was even going to be in town."

Live Feed Via Wapo,

 

Chairman Darrell Issa (R., Calif.) released a set of questions Sunday that suggests lawmakers will be digging even deeper into events surrounding the loss of the email records when Ms. Lerner’s computer hard drive failed. The questions, totaling about 50, seek details both about the hard-drive failure in mid-2011 and the agency’s later discovery that it affected the investigation, which started in 2013.

 

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Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:11 | 4887366 knukles
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Well.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2rKQwivQ8

... about sums up the DC ethos

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:20 | 4887397 doctor10
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Kabuki for the Red-Blue belivers

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:49 | 4887506 Four chan
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thats a good way to label them.^

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:41 | 4887647 aVileRat
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Well, we can at least give them points for attempting to pry the files out of the IRS. Look at it from their shoes: 1.) The feed at least will give the people a empathy for their attempts. 2.) Everyone will know the people in Congress are at least attempting with the instruments they are instructed to use, the process they have been tasked to carry out 3.) If people recognize just how limited US Congressional chairs can push on live TV, then perhaps voters themselves (and the type of questions they ask as the 4th estate) can help lead to deeper inquiries. Think of (3.) as a form of bread crumbs for the fight clubbers.

I suspect nothing will happen until a deep throat comes forward, or better yet, if Johnny places a bounty (much like those given by Congress to Privateers in the 1800's) to go "open season" on the IRS servers.

I can think of maybe 10 white hat computer teams off the top of my head who could find those emails in under 10 days. Hell, people deep inside Virgina may even do it for free if asked properly, if only to finally blow back the donor kiting which has gone on since 1993.

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:45 | 4887701 knukles
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Hey, it's making prime time.
That's at least a start.

And I'm getting a little jaded about the staying power of the red-blue paradigm.  I'm personally catching some very real snippets from buds on both sides of the aisle, exasperation concerning the Leviathan, not the them/us routine.
Just a personal experience....

People KNOW there's something wrong, and the size of the wrong is becoming "radically" wrong.
People as a whole by a humongoloid majority don't trust congress, the MEDIA (news), official prognostications about the economy, Obie's ratings have fallen further than even Bush2 and Carter....  I mean, it's becoming hard for the propaganda outlets to keep up the lie. 
Everybody knows....

I'm getting an impression that the facade is cracking, veneer of civilization peeling and a sense of really bad shit down the road building.
Trust in the system is plummeting.. and I do not mean by the ilks of the ZHers or alternative media....

Another Sound and Lights with no follow through?
Ya' know? 
Who cares anymore....

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:10 | 4887800 nmewn
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Its gonna be a quite a sight to behold when Alec Baldwin and Chuck Norris walk up the marbled steps of power and start kicking Reids & Boehner's asses.

You know its comin ;-)

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:32 | 4888045 DaddyO
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C'mon, this line of thinking is pure fantasy!

Just go listen to the rancor on the committee.

By the time the red/blue teams join hands and walk marble steps it will be on the steps of a defunct .gov.

I spent quite a bit of time tonight watching and I don't see anything to make me believe there's any unity anywhere.

Washington is broken and beyond repair and to think that you can send an honest man there to make a difference is sheer lunacy at this point.

Let's spend our time working at the local level because this is where we can change hearts and minds. Then and only then will we begin to see real change.

I'm one of the founders of the www.floridacitizensalliance.com and we are taking the issues to the grassroots and are seeing the lights go on.

We have hit a stonewall in Tallahassee because the leadership says it their way or the highway.

But in another breath they ask us to call off the dogs when we send email blasts outlining their stonewalling or subterfuge.

You can make a difference locally!

DaddyO

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 23:03 | 4888110 nmewn
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I didn't say Issa & Cummings would walk up the marbled steps together, they already do.

I said Norris & Baldwin would ;-)

What we have here is a perfect storm, the proles (left & right) do not like being spied on or dictated to. They have a growing discomfort with the "new idea" that their representatives are not really representing them but the state apparatus. There is an inate understanding of the issue at hand vis-a-vis with right & wrong, when a vast & powerful multi-billion dollar bureaucracy cannot retain its own records for our review but demands us under penalty of jail, fine, penalty, forfeiture of property or death that we do.

Its timeless.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 01:01 | 4888334 NeedtoSecede
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Good call DaddyO. The District of Corruption is beyond hope and beyond repair. Look after yourself and your family and then work out from there. Strong individual, strong family, strong neighborhood, strong town may help survive and rebuild when this shitshow clowncar clusterfuck finally implodes from the corruption and rot.

Secession keeps looking better doesn't it bitchez?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:21 | 4887398 doctor10
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Kabuki for the Red-Blue belivers

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:39 | 4887457 cynicalskeptic
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Should be an argument for eliminating the IRS - abuse by BOTH parties but no........

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:53 | 4887525 y3maxx
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...""DENY, DENY, DENY""....IF THAT DON'T WORK THEN ""BAFFLE THEM WITH BULLSHIT""...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:43 | 4887476 thamnosma
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Yeah, I suppose we should do nothing instead. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:04 | 4887576 gmrpeabody
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It does sound as if they are suggesting that...,

just saying.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:24 | 4887410 firstdivision
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Make sure you put your wallet in your front pocket before watching

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:11 | 4887367 nmewn
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Issa: You're late.

Koskinen: (smirking) I lost my car keys.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:11 | 4887368 Atomizer
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This ought to be entertaining. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:11 | 4887372 lakecity55
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Congressman, you assume there are Laws to be considered. What a quaint notion. We serve The Tyrant, and only The Tyrant.

The Tyrant is The Law, and The Law is The Tyrant.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:43 | 4887474 Row Well Number 41
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I miss Bugs.   Newman is a leach.

Just say'n.

#41

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:41 | 4887895 Jerk_Store
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Congressman, you assume there are Laws to be considered. What a quaint notion. We serve The Tyrant, and only The Tyrant.

The Tyrant is The Law, and The Law is The Tyrant.

 

Settle down Newman.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:12 | 4887373 BlindMonkey
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"IRS Commissioner Koskinen Vs Darrell Issa"

My money is on the useless blowhard. 10-1. Any takers?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:18 | 4887388 kchrisc
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Which worthless blowhard?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:27 | 4887417 ghengis86
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Yes

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:47 | 4887494 ThroxxOfVron
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The worhtless will worthlessly blow hardest.  The survival of the worthlessest is at stake...

The blow hardest will blow hard most worthlessly.  The survival of the blow hardest is at stake...

Red will huff until they turn blue. 

The blues will get red in the face.

 

Nothing changes until the Congress is permenantly dimantled.

Nothing will change until the Executive and IRS are permenantly dismantled.

The system is the problem and can never be the solution.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:12 | 4887375 kaiserhoff
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It's always the cover up that gets them.  Just imagine...

Odumpster going out on a banana peel.   Tres chic!

 

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:13 | 4887377 disabledvet
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This is better than firing.

"No, your resignation is not accepted either. See you on Wednesday. I expect you to start calling some people out on this one.

In full public view.

Money laundering is not tax deductible."

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:17 | 4887382 kchrisc
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Lying piece of shit pol vs lying piece of shit crat.

Get ready to snooze.

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:49 | 4887507 Chupacabra-322
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It's a Criminal Sytem, Owned by Criminal & run by Criminals. Break out the Gullitines.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:17 | 4887385 Wannabee
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Nah, nothing to see here. Both met about 2 hrs prior and rehearsed the script.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:22 | 4887404 kchrisc
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You know that true.

One almost expects to see one of them forget a line and ask the script-keeper for it.

“Pssst. Is this where I feign contempt?”

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 23:51 | 4888216 boattrash
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Bingo! Is there any other way to explain this: the POS kept crying about being too broke to cover $30 Million system, yet I failed to hear anybody ask what IRS paid out in bonuses. Will try to link it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/19/sen-grassley-says-irs-to-pay-...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:18 | 4887390 fonzannoon
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Issa: There's a difference between us. You think the people of this country exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it.

Koskinen: (blank stare, confused)

Issa: AHHH I'M JUST FUCKIN WITH YA! Beers later?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:18 | 4887392 Atomizer
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Where did that little weasel take off to. Potty break? 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:55 | 4887454 nmewn
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He's trying to get his story straight with Mzzz. Nikole Flax...former chief of staff for former IRS commissioner Steven Miller.

See, its all fixed! Move along serf!

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:53 | 4888097 Atomizer
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You never cisis to amaze me. Creating hardcore comedy keeps me alive. Thank you. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 23:28 | 4888165 nmewn
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lol...they do provide an abundance of material.

Nope, can't guarantee granny her check or vet benis but we can damned sure get Stingers to ISIS and AK's to Mexico and oil onto Warrens new train set he got for Christmas and birth control pills to law grads at prestigious universities.

Yessir buddy...lol.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:23 | 4887399 Colonel Klink
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Don't know if it's true but this guy sounds a bit angry....

http://whitechildren2.blogspot.com/2014/06/john-koskinen-rotten-rotten-j...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:21 | 4887401 sschu
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Until they are prepared to start arresting these people and tossing them in jail, we can assume this is all just a show.

How anyone can look at this and not be outraged is beyond me.  

Hey Issa, Ryan etal, perp walk this guy or go home.

sschu

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:30 | 4887429 Seasmoke
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We know what needs to be done. Yet no one does anything. So here we are, the Tribe is getting away with the crimes. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:31 | 4887431 Atomizer
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Use their tactics, seize his assets. Tit for tat. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:33 | 4887440 Bay of Pigs
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Cummins is a lying piece of shit.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:34 | 4887443 stormsailor
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cummins is a complete full-circle talking partisan idiot that doesn't know a hard drive from a sunday drive.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:37 | 4887451 stormsailor
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house needs to hold head of irs in contempt and arrest him tonight.  then defund all the irs, right now.  show them their constitutional authority for the first time. executive has been in their face for 5 years daring them to do anything.  use this to shut them down.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:40 | 4887462 sschu
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Arrest him and start a constitutional crisis over this.  Let's see the news on the front page of the NY Times for weeks and see what people think.  Refuse to release him.

Come on boys, start playing hard ball.

sschu

 

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:51 | 4887513 ThroxxOfVron
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This is already a Constitutional Crisis. 

The existence of the IRS is a Constitutional Crisis.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:40 | 4887458 stormsailor
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thank god that retard is out of hot air, i feel stupider just listening.   like i inhaled a 20 oz bottle of poppers in a row

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:40 | 4887461 Atomizer
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Stop fucking talking. Let the guy talk and give him enough rope to hang himself. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:41 | 4887470 ebworthen
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N.S.A. lost the emails too, but they have 300 Trillion exchanged between teenagers in the past 10 years.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:47 | 4887491 nmewn
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Sonasoft has the emails.

Unless all their computers & servers crashed too ;-)

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:56 | 4887541 kaiserhoff
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We know damn well Mossad has them. 

Security data sharing and all.  Good time to test their retrieval systems.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:09 | 4887598 nmewn
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lol...according to some Mossad has everything. Of course if they do have them, now would be the perfect time to nuke Obama with them.

I mean, they're best buds and all ;-)

Carter Hull has already implicated William J. Wilkins in this, it goes directly to the WH and everyone knows it.

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:23 | 4887651 kaiserhoff
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Of course it goes to Bath House.

What pension worshiping kleptocrat would come up with such blatantly stupid, petty shit.

I think this has legs.  Got popcorn?

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 02:05 | 4888405 Blankenstein
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Interesting....

 

"But there’s something else that’s worth knowing about Wilkins. He’s a longtime Obama crony and Democratic donor who earned his spurs by successfully defending, pro bono, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright (Yes, that Rev. Wright) from charges that his radical politicization of his pulpit should deny his church tax-exempt status. The event that triggered the IRS’s interest? Then-presidential candidate Barack Obama’s speech to the congregation during the Democratic primary campaign. Now does that sound like "political activity?" 

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/312353-william-wilkins-the-g-gordon-liddy-of-the-irs-scandal#ixzz35XAPG6q6 
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Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:22 | 4888023 franzpick
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Here is the Sonasoft email backup story from Michael Rivero, which receives zero press coverage, vs. the atrocious "we recycled the hard drive" concoction, which receives full coverage by the disgraceful u.s. corporate 'media':

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/sonasoft.php

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 07:03 | 4888589 Wahooo
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Where's anonymous when you need them? Oh, tucked away in the NSA?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:43 | 4887475 loveyajimbo
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That Kockasuckin is one vile rat turd... he needs a savage beating in the worst way... Shitbag Cummings too.  And he wonders why there are racists in the world...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:46 | 4887487 stormsailor
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mitch mcconnell,  an outrage to call a liar a liar.  bring forth the damn e-mails to suggest that a hard drive crash erased them all is a laughable outrage.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:49 | 4887503 Watts_D_Matter
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I like to punch that fu.ck.ing leprachan looking ivy league dildo with the bowtie in the face....what a fudge packer!

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:52 | 4887517 Joebloinvestor
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Notice nothing is said about the little shit Werfel who did FUCKING NOTHING.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 19:54 | 4887531 Atomizer
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Guess what Koskinen, any CC'd or BCC'd emails still reside as a record. What taskforce events took place during that timeframe?

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:02 | 4887567 Atomizer
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Fuck ACA, stick with the current state of breaking the law.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:03 | 4887570 Watts_D_Matter
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Cummings you friggin moron...do you always talk with marbles in your mouth?  

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:10 | 4887798 BlackChicken
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Those aren't marbles...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:03 | 4887573 stormsailor
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now its obamacare's fault because they can't do it with a 1.8 billion dollar budget?  this shit is funnier than hell and you can quote me on that.   i'm glad i'm not a member of that committee.  i would stand up walk over to that smug faced little jackshitter, and knock his teeth so forcefully down his throat that they would gnaw a hole in his chair coming out

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:06 | 4887589 Yen Cross
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    I still can't get over that O'Reilly interview with ZERO before the Super Bowl. Bill asked ZERO about corruption/targeting in the IRS and ZERO looked right in his fucking eyes and said there was absolutely nothing unusual, or any illegal targeting going on.

   How that worthless garden knome(zero) even looks at himself in the mirror when he sits down to piss in the morning, is beyond me.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:10 | 4887601 Government Sachs
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Someone please make this old bumbling idiot stop talking

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:10 | 4887605 Watts_D_Matter
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Hang the fucker he is guilty!

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:14 | 4887620 Seasmoke
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The Field Niggas are protecting the House Nigga tonight.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:00 | 4887762 Atomizer
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I saw that, her career is over. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:18 | 4887637 Watts_D_Matter
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Waiting to hear the famous line....What is the the meaning of is ...is

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:21 | 4887645 stormsailor
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i tried to not let the racial thought pass through my head but it did,  then i thought maybe it isn't a racial thing but a democrap party thing.  unless some democrat on the committee calls out this lying cheesedick mutherfucker, then its a party thing if he does, then you know its the other thing

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:29 | 4887665 nmewn
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No, its nothing racial.

But we can certainly rely on the MSM to never draw the parallel of this and voter suppression ;-)

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:33 | 4887679 stormsailor
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so far its a democrap thing, this is all high theater. nothing is going to happen,  lois lerner should be under arrest in the house.  hell, eric holder should be.   did you call the fbi to conduct a criminal investigation? what a stupid question to ask.  might as well call the oval office to investigate, we already did, its all good.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:46 | 4887717 nmewn
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Well, Cummings is up to his bulging eyeballs in this thing too but its a power thing...not pubics or demonrats. Its power and the abuse of authority for personal gain by the party in charge of enforcement.

And people wonder why I've discarded any pretense of "their law"...if this is the way it is to be, I'm fine with it, as long as we all know what it is they're talking about, we know the best way to deal with tyrants.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:38 | 4892042 dvfco
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Would it be illegal to publish a list of people like this whore Lerner on a pubic website, list the crimes she has committed against the People of the United States of America, give her 30 days to publicly issue as statement in defending her actions or step down from office and refuse her pension or face the music?  In other words, if and when she ignores the statements on a public site, could someone theoretically publish where she lives, the names and addresses of all family members, her home phone and cell phone number, and state, in advance, the punishment the Real People of the US of A feel is appropriate?  Then, say 30 days and 30 seconds after she ignores what is on the site, people take the law into their own hands?

Then, we repeat and continue?  

For example:  Eric Holder - You are being accused of (list the 100 or so ways he has criminally compromised our country and broken his pledge to uphold the US Constitution).  We the People of the United States of America are hereby requiring tha you submit a complete defense of your actions or resign from your job and refuse any and all future payments from the United States Government by midnight on July 24, 2014.  In the even you ignore this publication, we will find you Guilty in absentia of these crimes.  At that time, the People of the Unites States of America will take it upon themselves to impose the penalties for the crimes we believe you have committed.

Maybe we impose 2 or 3 controls:  1) Allow anyone to set forth a criminal complaint, but only have it become active after 10,000 (or some other # of people digitally sign the petition).  2)  Find 3 people willing to review the charges and, any response (which would probably never be received).  3) We set forth to publish as much information on the person being charged on the website, from what they have for breakfast, to where they sleep, to the location of everyone in their extended family, etc. 

We make everyone sign the petition stating that if they are ever impaneled on a jury formed to try anyone who acted to carry out the sentence would promise to vote Not Guilty.

I'm not saying I fucking love this idea and would love to see it 'anonymously' implemented.  Rather, I'm wondering if it would be legal.  Of course, if it's illegal, nobody should do this.  But, who knows, as someone testifying today said, "I have no idea, I'm not a lawyer."

Any thoughts?  Think of a website along the lines of "Hot or Not", but instead we have full page photos of the criminal working in our government, a full list of what we believe they have done wrong, and a "Guilty or Innocent" choice.  Maybe 100,000 "Guilty" votes calls for open season on the person?  Whaddya think?  Is it legal?  The president says he can kill citizen 'by decree.'   That doesn't seem to be legal.  So, maybe it is and maybe, by extension, it would make it legal for citizens to kill government officials by decree? Hmm.  I've often just mused on the idea.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:25 | 4887657 Atomizer
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Screw the FBI, call the NSA. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:29 | 4887663 cn13
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You gotta love the cow chewing her cud over Tierney's right shoulder.

 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:31 | 4887672 Atomizer
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Bubble gum bimbo 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:47 | 4887713 nick howdy
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Such Bullshit...The Federal Government uses Lotus Notes or Outlook...The files would reside on the persons hard dive and the Domino server or Exchange server respectively...

They lost emails in two places...IRS, the collection arm of the Federal Reserve, go fuck yourselves...

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:56 | 4887745 Seasmoke
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The Rs go rapid fire into their questions. The Ds go on a 5 minute speech.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:56 | 4887752 stormsailor
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now the screwed up harddrive is because the irs goes 5 to 7 years without replacing their systems,  i'm sure lois lerner had an old windows 98.  not that that means a damn thing or has anything to do with the coverup.  the asshole knows all the remnants of the emails are gone.  they did many sweeps to erase them to begin with. then the sweep to try to find them.  in fact they probably searched with 20 white hat teams to search for them to insure that they were all gone.

 

take a blowtorch to this cunts feet,  he would tell you everything you want to know before you ever touched his feet.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 20:57 | 4887755 Atomizer
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Bullshit. Obama opened up for new IRS employment hiring. New computers were apart of that hiring process. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:01 | 4887771 Loucleve
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For those that may be interested, I have started a petition to Holder to appoint a Special Prosecutor for the IRS investigation.

Link to Change.org:

http://www.change.org/petitions/united-states-attorney-general-eric-holder-holder-appoint-a-special-prosecutor-to-investigate-the-irs-targeting-and-lost-email-scandal

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:04 | 4887779 Atomizer
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Another cunt who is going to lose her employment. Zebra political antics. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:07 | 4887789 Atomizer
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This lying cunt is sound boarding the 2003 IRS software upgrade. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:11 | 4887801 overmedicatedun...
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to destroy evidence, is a crime. I am sure ms lerner's computers were very old after all she was just the head of  IRS ..of course her computers were second rate, the mail clerks got the good ones-what horse shit.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:17 | 4887821 stormsailor
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gentleman chairman, i would like the library of congress to be included in the record of this committee, because we think "is" may well be defined within it.

 

damn, now its bush fault? wow, never heard that before

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:18 | 4887822 Atomizer
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Your not going to get any more money until we resolve this criminal activity.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 02:53 | 4888416 Flagit
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Your not going to get any more money until we resolve this criminal activity.

Edit: stupid strikethrough.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:23 | 4887836 Watts_D_Matter
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Oh look a congressmwoan with her last name of Fuckworth.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:24 | 4887839 Atomizer
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Ask if Lois is able to backup her email using a thumb drive. Ask what are the IRS HR protocol in savings email documents 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:26 | 4887851 stormsailor
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every democrat has apologized. so sorry that those partisans running this committee spit and do not swallow like the lot of us.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:27 | 4887854 NoWayJose
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It shouldn't be too hard to find enough forensic geeks who hate the IRS and invite them in to see what they can find on what is left on the IRS computer systems.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:32 | 4887871 Atomizer
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Another Nigger who will become unemployed. Keep talking.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:45 | 4887910 Seasmoke
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New term. I am going Gowdy on you !!!

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:49 | 4887939 Atomizer
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I love living in SC. Great Grilling and nice reference to Ohio. 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 21:54 | 4887950 Atomizer
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Stop using search terms, plug in her actual email address. Populate everything off Microsoft Server exchange.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:15 | 4887985 Atomizer
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Goddamn wapo. Why did you cut the feed 

Edit,  Why did they cut transmission to the hearing? 

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 22:26 | 4888035 stormsailor
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because a democrat was actually grilling the sumbitch.  also answers the questions put forth in the thread above about it being just a partisan thing.  he changed it into a not a partisan thing.

 

my son "a shithot it professional for more than 10 years" told me that if she archived all her emails on that machine alone. it would erase them. but he also told me that all executives at every company he does it for, and that numbers in the 100's over his 10 years would have mirror drives on their desktop because of the approx 5% failure rate.

 

he also said that every one of the emails could be found stored on any server that passed those emails to the receipient, or from someone to the receipient on servers within the company as well as external servers, in fact some of the first things he learned to do because of the loss of data within companies was to recover lost deleted etc, e-mails. and later for security sections of large corporations to recover data civally or criminally erased by employee's.  he has never failed yet in over 10 years.  he is very very good at what he does but he is humble about it, he tells me there should be 100's of other it techs that should be able to do the same thing.

Mon, 06/23/2014 - 23:05 | 4888115 Atomizer
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Be very proud of yourself. You created a wonderful offspring. Smile! 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 02:01 | 4888403 monad
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By  Congressman John Campbell 

Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Consumer Protection? Just in case some of you think I’m sleeping away my last days in Washington, I attach hereto my 5 minute questioning today of Richard Cordray, the Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)at a House Financial Services Committee hearing. The CFPB was established in 2011 by the Dodd-Frank Act, ostensibly to aid consumers in financial transactions. My reading is that thus far it has done the opposite and has managed to simultaneously hurt both industry and consumers.

As a little bit of background to better understand where I was going in my questioning: The CFPB was set up as a part of the Federal Reserve. So, it is funded by the Federal Reserve and Congress has no ability to touch its budget in annual appropriations. It also is run by a single director instead of by a bipartisan commission, like virtually all other agencies of the federal government.

The CFPB is currently spending $185 million on a newly remodeled headquarters, has 1400 employees (from zero just a few years ago) and has had a big problem with race and gender discrimination internally. And, it admits to collecting all kinds of information on consumers that banks do not collect, such as your religion and race, in addition to all of the private financial information that only your bank has now. In this hearing, the CFPB Director confirmed that (apparently unlike the IRS’ own e-mails) they will keep all this information indefinitely. He claims, just like the NSA, that they don’t keep your name with the data. Yeah, right.

By the way, next time you have an IRS audit, just tell them that the substantiation for all your deductions and such was lost when your “computer crashed”. To be consistent, they should say, “OK, fine. No change in the audit then.”

But, I digress. Here’s my 5 minutes with the CFPB Director.

 Chairman Campbell: "Consumer Protection" Agency Recklessly Unaccountable to American Public

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 06:57 | 4888578 Wahooo
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I sort of admired how ISIS handled that Iraqi bureaucrat who drove up to the checkpoint and bragged about being a high level government bureaucrat. Must've gotten the attention of iraq's 1%.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 08:10 | 4888655 One And Only
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When was the last time you stored emails on your hard drive? Never.

Emails are stored on servers. SERVERRRRRRRRSSSSSSS.

Not floppy disks. Not CD cassettes. Not on Zip Disks..... SERVERRRRRRSSSSS.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 09:08 | 4888807 nmewn
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lol...

REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): Last round. I just ask you, when did you learn? You said sometime in April. I want to focus on when you did officially learn according to your definition. The Chairman asked you who told you this information, you can't remember?

JOHN KOSKINEN, IRS COMMISSIONER: I do not remember.

REP. JORDAN: Did someone say in person? Did someone send you an e-mail? How did you get the information?

KOSKINEN: I do not recall. I do not get e-mails on these subjects, so I am sure it was someone in person.

JORDAN: Someone in person? This has been a major news story for the last 13 months and you don't remember who came up to you and said, 'Hey, boss, we lost Lois Lerner's e-mails.' You don't remember anything about that situation?

KOSKINEN: I remember being told in April.

JORDAN: You don't remember who told you?

KOSKINEN: I do not recall who told me.

JORDAN: For something that has been a front-page story, you'd think it would have been significant to remember how it happened when they told you what the actual date was.

KOSKINEN: You have to remember I am running an agency with 90,000 people.

JORDAN: And this has been the biggest issue in front of your agency for the last year.

KOSKINEN: We were in the middle of filing season as all of this was going on.

Yes, I was personally reviewing every tax return, I didn't have time for this, I was very busy!!!

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 14:40 | 4890163 fishwharf
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Stormsailor is right.  The blowtorch would not have to get close to Koskinen's feet before he starts crying like a baby and telling everything he knows.  That goes for 99% of the lying, thieving bastards of the political and financial elite.  They have soft hands.  They don't know what it's like to force march with an 80 pound pack on their back, or do field work on a farm, or build a roof, or do any number of jobs many of us do for a fraction of what they earn.  They are wimps protected by bullies.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:15 | 4892107 dvfco
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I wrote a little much above, but the gist was this:

The president says he can kill citizen 'by decree.'   That doesn't seem to be legal.  So, maybe it is and maybe, by extension, it would make it legal for citizens to kill government officials by decree? Hmm. 

Citizens file public charges, await answer or official to step down from office, if no response then we allow citizens to vote up or down (guilty or not guilty). If 10,000+ vote guilty, then we ask that the public take action against each individual.  

I wish I could be pithy.  Re-reading what I wrote above all I could think was - TLDR.

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