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Martin Armstrong Asks "Will Society Ever Wake Up?"
Via Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics blog,
QUESTION: Does society ever wake up? Are there any such examples from history?
ANSWER: Of course.
If society did not wake up now and then, the outcome would always be the same – a dark age. The late 1700s was a revolution against monarchy – i.e. American Revolution. Then there was the overthrow of the kings and birth of Roman Republic in 509 BC. Each of these two events was followed by a contagion where the first inspired the French Revolution and the latter the Athenian revolution giving birth to Democracy. Then there was the collapse of Communism that began in China and spread to Russia and Eastern Europe as a contagion.
There is hope that we can wake before we go to the Dark Age stage – the Mad Max Event. If there were not, I would be building a bunker on an island someplace. This all depends upon society and where it resides at that moment. We have more danger in places like France where people are so reliant upon government which has laid waste to the private sector exactly as communism did in Russia.
The difference between China and Russia is important. In China, they did not try to change the thinking of society, they merely punished those who disagreed openly. Under Stalin, he persecuted people for having a brain. Therefore, China’s rebound has been spectacular because people were NOT reliant upon government. The more a society relies upon government the greater the damage to its economic potential. It requires a control-alt-delete reboot.
It is similar today where we have smart phones. We now push a button to call a friend. Lose the phone and most of us have no idea what phone number to call any more. We become dependent upon the technology. The same is true with government. In Ukraine, the people simply did not trust government and have had an independent streak to always maintain some self-reliance.
The future depends upon that quality. It will vary from region to region even within the same nation. For example, stop the flow of food into NYC and they begin to starve after 10 days. You would see a mass exodus raiding the homes in the suburbs. The city people rely upon someone producing the food 100% and have no land to even grow a tomato. At least in the suburb, they can plant something assuming it is not robbed by another.
This is the problem with all analysis. Only a fool cannot see that there is something beyond a one-dimensional view of the world. Everything they look at they twist into their own view and fail to understand that this is a multi-dimensional world where the same fundamental does NOT produce the same result perpetually. This is a combination of trends, which merge together to create a dynamic future that leaves opinion always trying to justify its errors.
Society will wake up, but not necessarily as a whole on a universal basis. There will always be differences of opinions and culture for everyone’s history dictates their future. Germany demands austerity because of the 1920s hyperinflation after the communist revolution of 1918, and the USA stimulates because of the 1930s deflation. There is NEVER a one size fits all outcome for everyone. They simply fight the last war over and over again blind to the changes because of their prejudice.
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Short Answer -- NO
@ Say What Aagin
Read then respond!
They will NOT wake up unless one or more of the following conditions occur in order of importance/magnitude:
1. Obama tells them to.
2. Apple stops selling iPhones.
3. The Kardashian show is pulled.
4. Milk stops coming from the grocery store.
5. Nike pulls its shoes.
6. The welfare checks stop coming in.
7. The phones stop working.
8. The internet stops working.
9. The power goes out.
10. The water goes out.
Yes, it's that bad...
We can wakeup as a whole if one of 'them' has a change of heart and provides us with the unedited verision of the truth and knowledge on what is going on, on this planet.
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Somebody knows something significant. Knowledge is the ultimate power...the more us commoners can obtain, the powerless they become.
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We are not dying apes...
So is it still too early to bust out my assless chaps?
pods
Come to SanFran....everyday is a good day for them here!!
Armstrong is a DOUCHE! China SLAUGHTERED their upper classes and their professionals JUST as Stalin and just as all totalitarian govs do........they dominate by FEAR!!!!! get ready you fochin' proles they're gonna do the same here and Armstrong is whistling past the graveyard
All that are awake now are all that will ever be awake. Stop waiting (hoping) for reinforcements. They ain't coming. This is what you got to work with. Make the most of it.
I'm already wearing my assless chaps. But I always wear them over top of my 'mom jeans'. Just like Obama does for Reggie.
Society won't wake up until the bread and circuses stop. I have friends that get pissed when I try to tell them things are falling apart and point them to real data such as the Labor Force Participation Rate. From their perspective, everything is rainbows and unicorns.
Forward (over the cliff)!
Ruppert knew what was coming. Perhaps that's why he killed himself.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/10/peak-oil-and-reality-of-whats-comi...
Martin Armstr0ng is neocon pet. He was the butt-boy for Brit Neocon Sir Alan Walters. Armstr0ng's mentor was a card carrying member of the NWO. Armstr0ng's writings show he is trying to keep that NOW flame alive, doing his part by pushing one side of their Hegelian dialectic, order out of chaos game plan.
Walters is dead now but when he was alive this is how Walters spent his time:
> Monetarist econ advisor to Margaret Thatcher
> Adviser to the World Bank
> Vice Chairman of AIG Trading Group
> American Enterprise Institute
AEI, you may have heard, is the HQ for the NeoCon NWO Goat Worshipers who are responsible for damn near every bad thing happening in the world right now. And Armstr0ng is one their pets.
Wrong. Fabians and Alinskyites are destroying everything.
Fabians, Alinkyites, Keynesians, Fruedians, Brezinkis, Kissengers, Bushes, Obamas, Clintons, Romneys, McCains, et al, are all on the SAME team. They are team NWO. What you see in conventional MSM media is exactly what they want you to think. They want us to think there are differences. It is a lie. They are all working together. Case in point: who does MSM push as front-runners for the next potus? Hillary and Jeb? They are both hated by the base of their respective parties yet somehow these fuckknobs are viable?
Ah the authentic argument of one who is trying to divert attention from the truly culpable: "they are all as bad as each other". Clearly, the parent post got you spooked.
Yes, guess Armstrong never heard of the millions killed by Mao. He does know that it was western (traitors) who transported factories to China, doesn't he ? Before that, around the time of Nixon/Kissinger - China had a tough time feeding their population.
Is this an example of this guy's writing style ? Its awkward & disjointed and makes you want to pull your hair out while reading it.
I think he is comparing cultural ethics - the Chinese people have long been "Confucian by Day, Taoist by Night" - they expect that China is the center of the universe, so they aren't surprised when outsiders want to rule it.. but in China the conquerors have a history of becoming Chinese over time, because the Chinese protect the culture - Confucius says we will follow this rule? Sure. But it does not change who we are or what we believe, and eventually, the rulers' children will become like us not the other way around. Socialism fundamentally relies on trying to change culture in hopes that by doing so they will change the fundamental nature of people. Of course, that won't work- because much of human failings are inbred, not learned behaviors, but of course leftists don't care about consequences or adapting to their mistakes, so they simply repeat them over and over, thinking fear and coercion will be sufficient. It isn't and never will be.
pods,
Here in Toronto its currently Pride Celebration -this year the city is hosting World Pride...If you really came down here and were on Church Street in your assless chaps, no one would notice.
Toronto its currently Pride Celebration
once the great american reset comes the wealth TEET that flows to canada will run dry. butter tart, pea meal and loads of azz-phucking and fun will be all yours to profit from.
If you guys can just hold it together until we can export our oil to China, we would greatly appreciate it.
There ia no society just the FSA.
I know something significant. Government is a trust, and those in it owe a fiduciary duty to the people. The duty of loyalty, the duty of care, the duty of obedience and the duty of disclosure. They are fiduciaries. Look up these words, then grind them down and back in their place.
Hélas, knowledge is not the ultimate power, dear Blotto. Knowledge is important, and perhaps necessary, but certainly not the sufficient condition. The ultimate power is conscious acting, that is, the ability to transform and materialize ideas into measurable acts in real situations that change something. It is more than just accumulating information, knowledge or feeding imagination. however coherent and brilliant they could be. It requires a bit different qualities such as courage, dauntlessness, strong conviction that you have to do something otherwise you're just wasting time, and also something what I call passion for results. If you do something you obviously achieve visible results. But, regardless of they are right or wrong, intended or accidental, you're not discouraged but, exact the opposite, you feel comfortable because of sole capability to act and interfere the reality. Such a stand requires sense of improvisation and passion for risking in unpredictable situations, which is usually in contradiction to premeditated ideas or polished mental constructions. For instance, you know exactly what to say, what to do, how to react in certain situations but once facing a real challenge you feel like being totally paralysed. Apparently, there is something missing, there is a gap in the knowledge that prevents from acting accordingly.
Instead of knowledge, I'd prefer the term gnosis, a Greek word for deep understanding collecting both logical and emotional qualities into one coherent unit that allows for thinking and acting hand by hand with each other to achieve (mostly) desired practical results. While knowledge can be learnt, gnosis must be intimately personally experienced, while knowledge can give you brilliant thoughts or deep connections, gnosis gives you personal strength and power to act being in accord with those thoughts.
The English word 'knowledge' is, I think, ambiguous as regards the two meanings, so if you use the word with gnosis in your mind I can fully agree with you.
11. They cancel DWTS
@ MeMadMax
or 11. The Weathermen add DMT to all Prozac presriptions....
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They will NOT wake up unless one or more of the following conditions occur in order of importance/magnitude:
1. Obama tells them to.
2. Apple stops selling iPhones.
3. The Kardashian show is pulled.
4. Milk stops coming from the grocery store.
5. Nike pulls its shoes.
6. The welfare checks stop coming in.
7. The phones stop working.
8. The internet stops working.
9. The power goes out.
10. The water goes out.
Yes, it's that bad... "
You forgot "and millions of millenials found dead of starvation in a La - Z - Boy with a remote in one hand and an X box in the other"
re read Lenin and then vote
Voting got us in this mess. Top-down isn't a long-term answer. Stop voting, and encourage everyone you know to withdraw consent. When voter turnout drops below 50% (we're very close), riot like the world is on fire. Unfortunately, that's the only law that power understands. Just ask Scalia, he knows.
Voting? What is it good for when the box is rigged?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb8Rj5xkDPk
Unrig the box and I might come back. Until then - I abstain and bitch with no end.
Exactly. I am already working on the bunker on the island part.
I can't afford an island so I'm just digging a mote around my house.
Dig it, christ man you can't even spell it!!!!!
Never spell check a man diggin a mote around his house. If you do, don't be surprised if you get whacked with a shuvel.
The first and most current "wake-up call" to a major event is the 9/11 fraud, Martin.
The evidence is overwhelming (2,207 a & e's), but people are too afraid to face the realpolitik.
Those of us who know see it come back at us with a near instantaneous, incredulous wave of the hand that says they're immune from evidence.
Incredulity is not an argument. Evidence makes arguments.
I don't understand how anyone can trust him, let alone value his opinion at this point.
“Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.”
Nobel Peace Prize Winner Dr. Heinz (Henry) Kissinger
Water, the next commodity.
Your are correct that it is coming. The price of water is going up and will continue to do so. Still a couple generations away for things to get super serious. That is IMO. Plus there is most likely going to be another large depopulating war in our near future. World population in 1939 was estimated at 2.1 billion. The amount of dead caused by WWII is 70 million. I figure this time around we should be able to take out a billion. Give or take a few hundred million. That ought to save a gallon or two before we repopulate.
For a drunk, he sure had his moments of lucidity.
H.K. now there's a war criminal if ever there was one....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bFOhAAYfqk
"if it moves, bomb it" HK
That's exactly what I find too. The narrative to explain the most important event of the 21st century to date is totally wrong. Yet people do not want to know.
These evil bastards read their Hitler:
"…in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
—Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]"
Remember, Half the population in below average in intelligence.
I said that...
Why did they kill the intellectuals? to reduce the number of people who gave a shit.
Here's some sage advice. Find a few people in your local community who are leaders. Sit down with them and talk about A&E truth, show them some videos from the website (David Chandler's is excellent). Convince them of the truth, then open their eyes to the fact that if the community doesn't pull together, they're going to collapse with the economy. Fuck this moron and his propaganda. You won't survive alone - you have to build a community of people who are aware...
Not in the concrete jungle. Most urban areas will be gone within months if not weeks. Local urban communities no matter high "tight' will not have a chance.
Overwhelming evidence is only valid to a reasonable person. The average American is a Grand Master at rationalizing away the stench of the shit they have buried us in. To them it smells like roses, and tastes like God cooked it up special order. You couldn't penetrate their thick skulls with a diamond drill bit. I think bullets would ricochet right off their dense noggins, but I don't have the balls to test that theory, self defense or not.
That's exactly what I find too. The narrative to explain the most important event of the 21st century to date is totally wrong. Yet people do not want to know.
Well....I would have to say...YES.....You see many examples just in these times
Mad MaX.....you do know that we live in the best times...sark/just a little bit....humans never learn
FFC - fat frackin chance the sheeple will wake up.... FFC
The most well armed population....well....
Oh...Shit....I forgot about the Nooo....kuza
Only in certain places and not within the Liberal establishment. They hire their guns and think those guns will be at their disposal when needed.
Sometimes.....It takes time to get pissed off
I am very disappointed Kevin, and the PPT. Yesterday was the perfect short squeeze, and today you should have pumped in preparation for tomorrow's GDP reset. Tomorrow you can work 3 hours, and I've revoked your porn privaledges for the week.
madcows,
The word is 'privileges', but your post I agree with!
DavidC
When you have to dig back to 1700 to find an example of society waking up, the writing is pretty much on the wall: You're fucked.
1700 on the SPX? That would be the end of the world.
Stevens sawed off 12 gauge?
I traded up!
http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/ksg/shotgun/
Shame Kel-Tec has a cop with one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lru1Qxc1l8
"If you're not cop, you're little people"
Do what they do. They can afford the best.
They will become the "little people" when they chose to defend their families rather than the elite fucks.
STFU Marty and BTFD
Not until the mezmerizer stops working, the colosseum games end and the fat food stops flowing.
Fuck awake! I'm on an Ambien sleep walk. Its such a strange trip I've been on.
"Sometimes the light's all shinin' on me
Other times I can barely see
Lately it occurs to me
What a long, strange trip it's been" - Grateful Dead
Sorry just couldn't help it.
Why wake-up if nothing is wrong. Is something wrong?
Go back to sleep and dream of the smart and savy.
ZZZZ, aaahhhAK. Like, OMG, I just had a nightmare. There were smart-n-savvy people everywhere. Good thing I woke up.
Other than the typos, Armstrong often get it right. My man!
Sorry, but this steak tastes so good !!!
Society will wake up, but only to another dream.
And while we're on the subject..., you look familiar.
Did he not watch Max Max, or Road Warrior, or Beyond Thunderdome. The underlying cause was nuclear war, not economics.
Will society wake up? Sure, when their bellies are empty and they need someone to blame.
Re: not economics.
Some people have economic OCD.
In most people's minds they are hungry but they aren't sure for what, but they are fed a constant stream of people to blame for their dissatisfactions. If we had hungered for the proper things our demons would have been hung out to dry many years ago. Instead we are distracted and redirected. AS we all know, it the rich people, those making $150k/yr that are to blame for all of this. The filthy rich fuckers. Them and old people!
You are quite right Oldwood, the filthy rich and the old people are to blame, and of course the poor people who refuse to work and then there's the young who just don't care about anything and then those weirdos who only care about sex and the criminal bankers infused with greed and the worthless politicians who lust for power and those who couldn't cope with it all who are on prescription drugs and the ones who realized that illegal drugs give a better high and the criminal criminals especially the ones who get caught so they can get free room and board and I almost forgot the muslims who want to kill us and the neocons who want to kill them and it's all caused by not enough oil, or is it gold. Oh well we're all dead anyway.
The lucky ones will be eating Dinky D dog food out of a can with a wood spoon and a shotgun.
Do they open the can with the wood spoon or the shotgun?
Speaking of food one of the more interesting implementations of crypto-"currency" since it technically can also function as a contract.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.0
Goals
a. To setup a Distributed Urea Exchange for the efficient international trade of the world's most important fertilizer for food production: Urea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea)
b. To provide a medium of exchange stabilized via backing to the true and undeniable international value of Urea, the world's most important fertilizer commodity that is responsible for 50%+ of total world food production.
The need for a Distributed Urea Exchange
The international Urea market is incredibility inefficient, with very poor liquidity and a complete lack of agreement on pricing. The wholesale price of Urea can vary be as much as 300% between different markets, nations and regions.
Now if we were talking about the trade of designer handbags, this would not be such a big problem, but no, we are talking about 50% of the world's food production being jeopardized by 300% price fluctuations. Real farmers - especially small to medium peasant class agricultural families who do not have access to insider information and deep connections in the current closed room trading regimes and tendering processes, are suffering daily and horrifically - having to lose crops and livelihoods over the inability to access affordable fertilizer.
Food shortages are being predicted by many independent experts worldwide and the creation of a international, distributed, consistent, honest, fast and efficient Urea Exchange is what we believe to be a vital part of the solution to this crisis. If all crops in the future can be fully planted and properly fertilized, we can avoid the impeding disaster.
Milestone 1 - Achieved on 09/06/2014
The Uro Foundation has forged an agreement amongst several international Urea trading partners to back each unit of Uro with 1 metric tonne of Urea in order to certify the Uro cryptocurrency network as an officially operational exchange for Urea. The enforcement of this agreement is in the form of the Uro Protocol, which was ratified by all 4 Urea trading company board members of the Uro Foundation on 09/06/2014. The Uro Protocol and the accompanying instruments of ratification can be found on the official Uro Foundation website.
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Imagine what would happen if this actually works and then other commodity producers and shops like gold and silver got their acts together for once and actually worked with each other instead of for the money changers for example followed suite and set up their own crypto-"currency" backed by gold or silver. Can you say straw that breaks the camel's back....
Think about that for a second decentralized commodity exchanges run by the commodity producers...
Crypto currencies don't work so good when the power is off....
Neither does the NYSE.....
Please stop with that tired rebuttal. Do better.
Here's better: Precious Metals
Linear educated uncritical thinking at it's best.......
You obviously didn't read first.
And in response to the no power argument. Satellites work when the power is off....
You can build redundancy into the network using commercial satellites since they work like bent pipes. You can buy the accounts commercially for usage of bandwidth now as is. A simple solar cell charger for the phone and direct data connection you can run a whole decentralized commodity exchange network outside the internet easily from anywhere in the world for the most part. Speed is another issue but it is doable.
But linear thinking assholes wouldn't even consider that.
You have to have power on the receiving end.... The power grid system is very fragile. ...and again...farmers market doesn't accept crypto or stock. For cell phones to work they need a local tower...which needs power. Sure redundant systems can be made..but they are limited to a very few. The masses will not have access, thus your commerce severely limited.
Don't waste your breath.
DCH does not understand simple truths, and never will.
Explain to us what these simple truths are then....
Power is easy to generate even without a grid to charge a cellphone. Solar cells, hand crank chargers (yes they do exist for cell phone batteries), water turbine, etc. You can easily generate enough electricity to run a few basic items.
You don't need a local tower you can convert a cell phone to a satellite phone quite easily. Here are 2 commercial products but it can be done in 'ghetto' fashion also with a little know how.
http://www.gizmag.com/iridium-go-satellite-hotspot/30711/
http://www.tuaw.com/2013/03/21/turn-your-iphone-into-a-satellite-phone-w...
And since all you knuckleheads don't read the exchange they are doing is an 'officially' sanctioned one by the producers in the first place. It is not fucking money we are talking about here just commodity contracts but keep missing the forest for the trees like everyone else. Those contracts also serve as a defacto inventory system at the same time when it is a fixed 1 to 1 ratio aka 1 Uro to 1 metric tonne of Urea regardless of price.
For a variety of reasons, we are one major catastrophe away from the mid 19th century. For every decade of our modernity, we are further away from our ability to survive on a mass scale. The planetary population will diminish significantly and very quickly.
You are mis-applying the term "linear". Please do not do that. Language and communication do matter.
I can go to my local army navy store or farmers market...they take silver and gold...I agree the NYSE doesnt work without electricity.
So how do you produce and transport fertilizers in your brave new world of no electricity (which presumably means no oil, either)?
I accept BTC and LTC, wanna buy some hay?
Haven't seen farm-ass around lately...
@DCH, something vaguely similar happening at SolarCoin , thanks for the info.
The U.S. has to have the most somnolent obedient rats in the maze.
Waving the flag while trudging off to corporate cubicles and hash slinging.
$1 billion taxpayer dollars to the neo-Nazi putsch in Ukraine and...zzzzz.
$550 million taxpayer dollars to the Egyptian military and...crickets.
What was that you were talking about? How about we discuss something important for a change, like OMG! Did you notice Kim Kardashian's butt just got bigger!?
Is that even possible?
The electrician I had working today was saying how well the economy was doing.
He said it in a questioning tone however.
Even the braindead sheep are waking it seems.
I wouldn't let a braindead electrician anywhere near my house. Bad things can happen-
A man with priorities so far of whack doesn't deserve such a fine abode...
In defence of electricians....
If they don't use their brains regularly, they don't stay in that line of business.
and a $550,000,000 taxpayers dollars to ISIS in the form of an abandoned embassy in the near future.The "Green Zone" will be flying black flags soon! Get our people out. Leave John Kerry there.Dien Bein Phu and Saigon will look like a party.
The can keeps getting kicked up a hill and higher up the hill the can gets kicked, the farther we fall off the cliff.
There will be a rude awakening in 2029. It is called the Singualarity and the machines will be remorseless...just ask the Terminator...or read Ray Kurzweil's book: "The Singularity is Near". He may be a loon, and the actual events may be far removed from what he is predicting, but yes, AI is coming and we have no idea what it is going to eventually do... ;-D
Sure we do. AI will determine that we are an irrational life form that should be eliminated. We are threatened by AI just like we are threatened by really smart people, and we should be. We are easily manipulated and maintain the only goal of being as nonproductive as possible while still surviving. Ultimately even survival is not all that important to us as we are typically intent on destruction.
@ Oldwood,
Scary ain't it... Humans as biological beings may in fact be extincted by our progeny AI. We will continue via our legacy AI. Read Kurzweils book, it is a seminal work.
Based on my negative ratings for the above comment, it would seem that some ZHers are not comfortable with the idea that they can be replaced...to them, I say this:
For the last hundred years we have had plenty of technology to capture evidence of the supernatural world if it exsits, and for the last 30 years that technology has been in every nook and cranny on the planet. WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF THE SUPERNATURAL WORLD???
Thanks for the reply,,,
;-D
They are awake. The definition of 'something living' is if it has to eat something else to survive. The people are there to be eaten for the higher order of people. They need to be sufficiently awake enough to eat and fatten up for the rest of us. This is nature and its the truth, they are awake enough to be sufficeintly ready to be eaten.
From top to bottom this article is RUBBISH
it was only posted to flush out the nutters for domestic drone strike for zero day -1
So many of the things we do and tolerate seem insane. But then I remember that human civilization itself began with a people who buried their dead children in clay jars under their living room floors, so maybe the sad truth is that we were just bat-shit crazy to begin with.
I enjoy your posts.
Thanks...I never can tell what the mood might be when I make a contribution. That's why I enjoy this site. On most other sites you kinda KNOW how the natives will react.
Keeps me on my toes, as I can't gauge the audience in advance. I can't be sure they'll agree with me, so I have to have my arguments prepared. I can't depend on the old "camaraderie of the like-minded" thing.
Plus, I can say "fuck" here without getting yelled at...:-)
Funny you mention mad max. But the movie is a true 70's product where they did see the end of fosil fuels and there where 2 viable options to replace them.
One was nuclear and the other was the gas produced by pigs.
So if they would do a remake, the pigs would be replaced by solar and wind.
And secondly, people really love the end of society. As much as they love the comforts of society and the priviledges that go with it.
"And secondly, people really love the end of society. As much as they love the comforts of society and the priviledges that go with it."
Are these the blue pillers or the red pillers?
I suspect people like discussing the IDEA of the end of society, but may find the reality somehwat less romantic.
Yep. There mere idea of conversing over the measures of decline of society is only possible in societies that have no generational memory of decline.
One size fits all category = DEATH
On a long enough timeline.............................things start to get ugly.
OCCUPY THE NECROPOLIS - OCCUPY EVERYTHING except Angela Merkel's gold bullion.
Unfortunately dear Mr. Armweak is only mixing bad cliches with bad history and pseudo-hope. He has everything upside-down.
No, clear, he is poor propaganda douchebag.
Yeah, his history lesson was way off this time.
I prefer the Thunderdome future. Opportunity awaits...just be sure you have gold and a bad-tempered midget with engineering skills, and you will run the place.
No, the person with the trade skills runs Bartertown.
"Give me back my little man!"
Why ask the question, when the thumbnail already has the answer.
I am confused as to why the banking scumbags, and the politicians still lie. The public won't do anything even if Obama declares himself a king.
Obama on Cnn - For national security I have made myself a king.
Public - Ok now turn back the football game. Lets watch something that is important.
Obama - Everyone needs to head over to Fema now. We have installed a huge screen TV with lots of popcorn. The best part is that you can stay until you die.
Public - Hey....Did you hear about the party at Fema. I get to watch Football and eat pocorn until I die. Sounds great!
Obama - We have systematically stolen your wealth, labour, and freedom of the next 100 generations.
Public - Wow...you seem smart...can I vote for you again.
IGRNORANCE IS BLISS seems to be the model that is alive and well.
Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." It is named after Ian Betteridge, a British technology journalist,[1] although the general concept is much older.[2] The observation has also been called "Davis' law"[3][4] or just the "journalistic principle".[5] In the field of particle physics, the concept has been referred to as Hinchliffe's Rule.[6]
Betteridge explained the concept in a February 2009 article, regarding a TechCrunch article with the headline "Did Last.fm Just Hand Over User Listening Data To the RIAA?":
Five years before Betteridge's article, a similar observation was made by UK journalist Andrew Marr in his 2004 book My Trade. It was among Marr's suggestions for how a reader should approach a newspaper if they really wish to know what is going on:
I was wondering when MA was going to show up again. Must have been busy reprogramming his Commodore C64 and changing the ribbon on the dot- matrix printer.
Sinclair Z80.
This is why they want to disarm the people.
Ahem.
The French Revolution was AFTER the Athenian Revolution.
I can't blame you though because the movie "300" came out after the French Revolution and you weren't alive for that but your were for the movie, right after you graduated from high school.
When is your dad going to give your a real job?
Funny "Dark Age", the tribe knows it by a different name, they called it "the Jewish Golden Age" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in_Spain
BEFORE YOU BAIL ON THE USA, IT MIGHT PAY TO SEE GEERT HOFSTEDE'S COUNTRY-QUALITY ANALYTICS
http://geert-hofstede.com/countries.html
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Society will not wake up. 'Society' does not exist..there's just a loosely knit network of groups associating with each other based in mutual benefit. Cultural, religions and other such motivations are just excuses to keep on doing what we have been doing.
And 'what' exactly will they wake up to? The evil designs 'they' have been plotting on 'us'?
This article is crap..
It is similar today where we have smart phones. We now push a button to call a friend. Lose the phone and most of us have no idea what phone number to call any more. We become dependent upon the technology. The same is true with government. In Ukraine, the people simply did not trust government and have had an independent streak to always maintain some self-reliance.
That's one dumbass analogy, thanks for trying to sound smart while pointing out something completely obvious. Here's something less obvious...our brains are terrible at storing random data like phone numbers so its great we now have devices that do the dumb work of storing data so we can get on with analysing it and making decisions...things our brains are somewhat better at (not by that much though), making sense out of stuff. So let's make some sense here..
Where the hell do you get your info on Ukraine from? You must be reading some very different history books than mine. This was not a popular uprising like the american revolution was (neither was the american revolution when it comes to it, but let's not go there now).
Everything they look at they twist into their own view and fail to understand that this is a multi-dimensional world
Amen, brother! Something about a pot saying something to a kettle and the kettle being pissed off about it...
I can wake pretty much anything up with a Thomson Contender with barrels for all the "popular" ammo.
AMAZING insights, "There could be an awakening, it depends, there usually is SOME kind of awakening, from some of the people if you go back far enough, but a REAL awakening can happen, depending on where you live, like in the movies...."
What bullshit.
This system sucks.
Let's change it!
http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/85873/why-next-20-years-will-complete...
btw i DO NOT buy in to the false scarity of peak oil or global warming, yes climate change, nature shifting, but from what? May I suggest "Space Weather", and how it effects earths geologic processes? also (IE, Humans suck, I have heard of a LOT of Capped oil wells for instance) False Scrarcity.
Plus 3/4 of the world is UNDER WATER. Not that we should rape that too, but can we be actually WISER?
Perhaps it is a key human race cyclical time we find ourselves in.
I too have been changing my lifestyle to prepare for these challenges.
{getting rid of manipulation in pricing would help, but this is what we have.}
The concept of wealth hit home as well as the exponential growth problem and believe we must lead now.
In that vein, I would like to contribute an old idea, Georgism, or perhaps better named "Geo-economics."
This, along with a better monetary system and new wise leadership could really make a difference.
It seems impossible, but it is not. We must sheppard the earth and each other.
http://geoeconomics.wordpress.com/
These are at least non exponential possibilities for money we should consider in the new paradigm I describe..
http://www.monetary.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Gesell
I also like the articles CHS listed on Zero-hedge...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-21/next-20-years-will-not-be-last-...
Especially this one referenced...http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1583944435/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=17...
Perhaps we need to Open-Source a "Call to Action"
Regardless, we have the tools, the people, etc. Lets go.
This system sucks. Let's change it!
This system sucks. Let's ABANDON it!
I look forward to my Mad Max future.
I dont know what half you bitchez do for a living, but let me tell you this, as I've posted many times, I clean windows for a living, my own business.
The rage, from rich to poor is palpable, you can nearly taste it for they way these cunts are ruining us, with NO CONSENT.
Not one of us cunts agreed to this mauling of our way of life, and the pig men are more than aware of this.
Breaking point is not far away, just ask chelsea.
:-)
She doesn't care about breaking points either.
I used to see a window cleaner who was forever talking while he was cleaning but I couldn't hear a thing he was saying through the window of my office. He was always alone on the platform and no one else in sight so I always figured he was saying furiously "don't look down, don't look down, don't look down..." but now I know that it was inthemix96 dictating his ZH blog posts to some sort of voice transcriptor.....epiphany
They'll eventually wake up and (soon after that) die (financially, and probably otherwise too).
People are afraid to wake up, who would want to wake up to lawlessness?
Rambling man. Incoherent post.
Be careful how many people you wake up; you may find yourself getting trampled running for the door. Personally, I like a nice head start for myself before I sound any alarms and get a stampede started. People who are aware NOW, are the greatest assets you want on your team: Forward thinkers with a plan not reactionaries who will eat each other when they panic.
Will Martin Armstrong ever stop writing crappy blog articles? Will Zero Hedge ever stop publishing this shit?
I asked this about a month ago and got a lot of downvotes. Psssst
Anyway, looks like Martin was on vacation or what, I was lucky for the last month to notice none of his bullshit here on ZH.
Will I ever stop reading the crappy articles ZH publishes? At least these are fodder for comic relief in the comments.....
Democracy as in the lie of globalist warmongers that they are killing to make people free?
Gimme break!
And learn some REAL history.
The American Revolution was instigated by NE coast smugglers who didn't want to pay taxes.
And the Federalists pushed through our Constitution to protect their economic interests.
Read McMaster, Beard, Shotwell, etc. on the truth of our history.
Read H.E. Barnes to understand sociolgy and "political change."
"Germany demands austerity because of the 1920s hyperinflation after the communist revolution of 1918, and the USA stimulates because of the 1930s deflation"
So does Germany get Deflation and the USA get hyperinflation this time? I think so.
Ultimately people believe what they want to believe.
They will gather on the balconies of high-rises to watch their cities be bombed, oblivious and unbelieving that they - THEY! THE SPECIAL ONES! - could possibly be in danger.
They will look upon the wet sand of the sea bed as the ocean pulls back, with no more than a vague curiosity, "My! That's a strage wave!"
They will insist time and again that the authorities who jail them if they do not pay, are truly concerned for their welfare, that the police will arrive on time, that none of these public servants will abuse their positions. They will believe no matter how many times they are over-taxed, how many times the police arrive days later and only to take a report, and no matter how many public servants are exposed.
They will defend the regime, and advertise their usefulness to the regime, even as the regime marches them in to gas chambers. They'll believe it is a de-lousing even though they personnally saw the last trains of people marched in, and bodies carried out.
They'll do this indefinitely, despite any amount of evidence to the contrary.
They will not believe because they don't want to believe, because they in fact DO BELIEVE but simply don't want to face it.
And that is the secret of why so few can do such horrible things to so many.
DENIAL is a deadly past time.
Martin Armstrong´s view about China is wrong. Communism destroy so much that there was nothing left to destroy when Mao died in 1976 and when in the year in summer a large hearthquake happened. Chinese people have their own belief and the two events were interpreted as the end, a bottom of the long decline since the 1830s. China was in decline from 1830s to 1976. And China had their dark age. Cannibalism was common during the famines engineered by the great leap forward. Mr. Armstrong has unbelievable background in historical economics, but he gets China wrong.
China rebounded because there was total destruction, nothing more to destroy yet an ancient culture with millenaries laying beneath the communist. When waste was laid upon China, the culture was not dead because the roots are very very deep in teh ground.
France will go down again because of its crazy policies. But look, in French Britanny they have the "bonnet rouges", what are those? Those are group of people against central power taxation. In the 1600th Hundred people in that region protested against Louis XIV taxes while according to a treaty the region was supposed not to be taxed by the central power.
People will get back to their roots and re-invent themselves. It is good to hafve roots. In the US, Mr Ron Paul represents an old traditional image of American tradition. The more tradition, the better, it helps rebuild.
As for Russia, Mr Armstrong gets it totally wrong.
A little education can go a long way...
15 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqB4L-V67iM
Society will wake up when the EBT cards balance reads $0.00, the SS, Disability check fails to clear.
I have no faith in my fellow man. As near as I can see the average man is a selfish self centered prick who can't wait to screw his neighbor.
Self introspection is as rare as hens teeth, it's G-ds will or somebody elses fault.
We are screwed, they are at the door.... the drums... the drums.
Self centered would be fine if they couldn't vote for a living.
Collapse of China communism? This paper gets an F!!! I hope Z gets paid to post this drivel.
The more this s#@t happens the more people wake up. http://www.infowars.com/woman-says-dhs-forced-her-to-strip-naked-at-gunp...