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Putin Scores Another Historic Victory: Austria Signs South Stream Pipeline Deal In Defiance Of Europe

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As the war of words between Europe and Russia has escalated, one of the outcomes that has emerged is that just like in false flag war over Syria, the Ukraine war was about the simplest possible thing, and yet so very complicate: a gas pipeline. Of course, it was never a secret that the prize in controlling Ukraine was possession of the vast pipeline infrastructure that left Russia and entered Europe, but since it was all Gazprom's gas in the first place, it didn't really matter if Kiev had possession of the gas as it transits to Europe, or if, as the case is now, Ukraine is merely a transit hub with all Russian gas delivered to European countries and none of it staying in the civil war torn country. After all as of this moment Ukraine can't afford any Russian gas, and if it siphons off any of the product destined for Germany and beyond it would simply antagonize its new NATO best friends, who also happen to be Gazprom clients.

No, the pipeline that has emerged with a starring role in the Ukraine conflict has nothing to do with Ukraine, but is a pipeline that crosses several hundred kilometers south of Ukraine - the South Stream project, which leaves the Russian black sea coast south of Crimea, crosses the black sea, and traverses Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary and ends up in the gas hub in Baumgarten, Austria from where it proceeds to all points in central Europe, mostly Germany.

The project, which was conceived in 2007, was meant explicitly to bypass Ukraine, and to be an alternative to the now mothballed Nabucco gas pipeline which, with the backing of the US and Europe, would have taken Caspian gas (mainly Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan) and traverse Turkey before emerging in Bulgaria, and then followed the European path of the South Stream into the Austrian hub and beyond.

Not surprisingly, it was the key transit hub of the South Stream, Bulgaria, that started making problems for Putin even as he succeeded in trumping Nabucco (when in June 2013 the CEO of Austrian energy giant OMV, Gerhard Roiss, announced the project as "over" after the Turkish Shah Deniz consortium chose the Trans-Adriatic Pipieline over Nabucco as a gas export route which would supply Italy instead of Austria).

Recall that it was in January, two months before the Ukraine government was overthrown that the prime minister of Bulgaria - a country that has a very distinguished love/hate relationship with Russia (a relationship which the US would love to make more "hate") - Plamen Oresharski, surprisingly ordered a halt to work on the South Stream, on the recommendation of the EU. The decision was announced after his talks with US senators.

"At this time there is a request from the European Commission, after which we've suspended the current works, I ordered it," Oresharski told journalists after meeting with John McCain, Chris Murphy and Ron Johnson during their visit to Bulgaria on Sunday. "Further proceedings will be decided after additional consultations with Brussels."

At the time McCain, commenting on the situation, said that "Bulgaria should solve the South Stream problems in collaboration with European colleagues," adding that in the current situation they would want "less Russian involvement" in the project.

"America has decided that it wants to put itself in a position where it excludes anybody it doesn't like from countries where it thinks it might have an interest, and there is no economic rationality in this at all. Europeans are very pragmatic, they are looking for cheap energy resources - clean energy resources, and Russia can supply that. But the thing with the South Stream is that it doesn't fit with the politics of the situation," Ben Aris, editor of Business New Europe told RT.

It was also in January when EU authorities ordered Bulgaria to suspend construction on its link of the pipeline, which is planned to transport Russian natural gas through the Black Sea to Bulgaria and onward to western Europe. Brussels wants the project frozen, pending a decision on whether it violates the EU competition regulations on a single energy market. It believes South Stream does not comply with the rules prohibiting energy producers from also controlling pipeline access.

Therein, of course, lies the rub, because as Europe has learned the hard way so many times, its overrliance on Russia for both the production and the transit of gas means that it has absolutely no leverage over the Kremlin - something recent events in Ukraine have only confirmed.

Putin, earlier today, merely cemented the reality that it is not so much about who controls the energy transit pipelines, but whose influence controls Europe: America's or Russia's. "The US opposes the Russian South Stream gas pipeline project because it wants to supply gas to Europe itself, President Putin said on Tuesday. He called the situation an "ordinary competitive struggle."

“They do everything to disrupt this contract. There is nothing unusual here. This is an ordinary competitive struggle. In the course of this competition, political tools are also being used,” the Russian president said after holding talks with his Austrian counterpart, President Heinz Fischer, in Vienna.

"We are in talks with our contract partners, not with third parties. That our US friends are unhappy about South Stream, well, they were unhappy in 1962 too, when the gas-for-pipes project with Germany was beginning. Now they are unhappy too, nothing has changed, except the fact that they want to supply to the European market themselves," Putin stated.

Should this happen, American gas “will not be cheaper than Russian gas – pipe gas is always cheaper than liquefied gas,” Putin stressed.

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Which in turn brings us to the culmination of the political struggle over the South Stream, when earlier today, in yet another coup for the Kremlin, one of the most stable and respected European countries, AAA-rated Austria gave its final approval to the "controversial" Russian gas pipeline project early Tuesday, defying EU officials and welcoming Russian President Vladimir Putin to the neutral country that has been a long-standing energy customer for Moscow.

As Reuters reports, "the chief executives of Russia's Gazprom and Austria's OMV sealed the deal to build a branch of the South Stream gas pipeline to Austria, a staunch defender of the project in the face of opposition from the European Commission."

In other words, one short month after Putin concluded the Holy Grail deal with Beijing, he not only managed to formalize his conquest of Europe's energy needs with yet another pipeline, one which completely bypasses Ukraine (for numerous reasons but mostly one: call it a Plan B), but scored a massive political victory by creating a fissure in the heart of the Eurozone, after Austria openly defied its European peers and sided with Putin.

Needless to say, the European Commission is furious, and is digging in its heels saying South Stream does not comply with EU competition law because it offers no access to third parties. South Stream also, as noted above, counters the EU's policy of diversifying supply sources to reduce dependence on Russia.

But OMV CEO Gerhard Roiss, in a stunning moment of realpolitik clarity and admission that when it comes to the energy future of Europe, Putin is more important than Mario Draghi, told a news conference after the signing: "Europe needs Russian gas. Europe will need more Russian gas in future because European gas production is falling ... I think the European Union understands this, too."

Of course, they do. The only issue is they don't want to admit it because doing so seals Europea's fate as a vassal energy state of Russia. As for Europe's pipedream, pardon the pun, alternative of receiving LNG from the US, it was none other than Cnehiere CEO Charif Souki who said in April, when asked if Cheniere’s terminal could rescue eastern European countries from their dependence on Russia, that "It’s flattering to be talked about like this, but it’s all nonsense. It’s so much nonsense that I can’t believe anybody really believes it.

They don't, but it's all politics. And in politics it is all about wielding power, or submitting to it. Austria did the latter today, and by defecting on its European peers, it may have started a process that leads to the splintering of the Eurozone itself, with none other than Vladimir Putin once again pulling the strings.

The project has pitted European industry against politicians in Brussels, and divided South Stream supporters - which stretch from Germany through the heavily Russia-dependent central and southeastern Europe - from other EU member states.

 

On a one-day working visit to Vienna that drew some criticism in the EU, Putin spoke of close business ties to Austria, the first western European country to sign, in 1968, long-term gas supply deals with Moscow.

 

He called Austria an "important and reliable" partner for Russia, which is Austria's third-biggest non-EU trading partner after the United States and Switzerland.

 

Austrian President Heinz Fischer also defended the South Stream project, saying: "No one can explain to me - and I can't explain to the Austrian people - why a pipeline that crosses EU and NATO countries can't go 50 km into Austria."

Oh and for the record, the Austrian president said "He said he opposed sanctions against Moscow"... just in case the next time Europe dares to pass off any Russian sanctions over Ukraine decision as unanimous.

And speaking of Ukraine, things got downright bizarre in Vienna when the head of Austria's chamber of commerce reminded Putin that part of Ukraine had belonged to Austria in 1914.  "What is that supposed to mean? What are you proposing?" Putin quipped, eliciting laughter from the business elite. Next thing you know Putin will be joking about annexing Hungary...

And there you have it, just in case it was still unclear: what is happening in Ukraine is all a big joke to the power brokers in Europe, the "business elite" - the decision has long since been made that Putin will see no objection by said elite to whatever his intentions with regard to the irrelevant and civil war-torn country are. Aside, of course, from the token CIA and US theater fit simply for lower common denominator consumption.

The joint South Stream Austria project will be 50 percent owned by Gazprom – Russia's largest gas producer – and 50 percent owned by Austria’s OMV Group, the country’s largest oil and gas company.

Austria's president Fischer stated that if anyone criticizes Austria, they should also criticize other member countries and their companies.

“I suppose that there will be no such moment when such a country as Austria will not be holding talks with a partner, which has intense relations with us, and will not be ready to negotiate with it,” the Austrian leader said.

We know such a dialogue does not contradict any EU decision,” he added. What he meant is that nobody in Europe can tell Putin what to do.

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As for the logistical issues of the pipeline, now that the agreement has been signed, they will all be resolved in due course: Gazprom chief Alexei Miller said earlier he was in weekly if not daily contact with European Energy Commissioner Guenther Oettinger about winning approval for the South Stream project.

"We solve problems as they come up, and now the problem of construction of the pipeline is to be solved," Miller said.

The pipeline deal does not address the question of third-party access, which is required by EU law to prevent the owner of an energy source from monopolising its distribution channels. OMV's Roiss said the issue must be negotiated with Brussels.  Roiss said the Austrian part of the pipeline, which is planned to be built in 2016 and deliver its first gas supplies around the start of 2017, would comply fully with European law.

Gazprom and OMV said they would split the 200 million euro ($272 million) costs of building the 50-km (31- mile) Austrian stretch of South Stream, which in total will be 2,446 km long. The total cost of the South Stream pipeline is $40 billion.

At the end of the day it's only capex: money that is more than returned to the investor in the long-run. America may remember capex - it's what companies did before they pushed financial engineering beyond the edge, all in the pursuit of short-term capital appreciation gains. And if Gazprom can't fund it, we are confident China would be delighted to invest in the project by buying a few billion Renminbi-denominated bonds.

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So congratulations to Putin: today he merely further cemented his status as Europe's default energy provider. But not only that. As Reuters noted some politicians have warned that Putin may try to exploit divisions between friendly EU states, such as neutral Austria with its traditionally good ties to Moscow, and those like Britain that want to take a harder line.

"Obviously ... Putin wants to split the European Union. That's nothing new. That's what the Russians always try to do when they are in a corner," Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt told Austrian broadcaster ORF on Monday.

Well, Mr. Bildt, Russia certainly succeeded in sowing the seeds of even more discord in the European Union, whose most stable country just sided with Putin and told all of its European "partners", Merkel and Cameron included, a big fuck you. As for your completely wrong remark about just who is "in the corner" we will let it slip: after all, as that other European career politician Jean-Claude Juncker taught us, when it gets serious, you have to lie.

 

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Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:25 | 4891433 localsavage
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I guess that not everyone buys the EU energy policies

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:46 | 4891503 palmereldritch
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Western backed Nazi coup and annexation of Austria in 3, 2, 1....

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:53 | 4891531 SWRichmond
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notice who is bypassed by the South Stream project...an energy-starved nato partner...Turkey.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:07 | 4891576 stoneworker
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I think I remember Turkey already suggesting that they would play ball on the South Stream project if asked....so if Bulgaria decides to wait for the EU commission to decide(US LNG) I think building the pipeline through Turkey could be a possibility.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:23 | 4891631 knukles
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...

Narrowly missed by most of the press was a surreptitious recording of the National Security Council today discussing the Austrian decision.
Partial transcript follows:

VJ:  Well, they've gone and done it now, dammit!
BO:  Who?
VJ:  The Austrians
BO:  I wonder how they keep the kangaroos off the greens?
VJ:  No, the Austrians!  NSA, have you anything we can use?
NSA: We have recordings of illicit underage transvestite kangaroo sex from the SEC

And so the discussion continued long into the night, fueled by heavy consumption of fois gras and caviar seized at numerous border crossings which needed to be recycled before the use by dates passed.

VJ:  Waste not want not!
MO: Ah, the fallacy that the liberals don't see.
VJ:  What's that?
MO: That political correctness is merely fascism with a smiley face.
VJ:  I'll toast to that!
MO: Pass the Dom Perignon!

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:34 | 4891665 markmotive
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Putin didn't get to be possibly the richest man in the world for being stupid.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/04/documentary-about-possibly-richest...

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4891740 MeBizarro
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No he got their the classic Russian way - intimidiation, fear, and threat. 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:00 | 4891771 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Side tracking, ad hominems, strawsman etc...

Seems is all this what Kievan Yatzi Junta Citizenism Banderatards can provide.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:13 | 4891839 MeBizarro
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Really?  Please provide a single example of what Putin 'created' and 'invented' or was critical to enjoy his supposed wealth?  He strong-armed his way into pure and simple 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:17 | 4891856 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Banderatarded Kievan Yatzi Junta Citizenism citizens and their propaganda. Cheaper by the day. Now they want you to explain them when their propaganda so obvioulsy fails.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 02:40 | 4892243 chumbawamba
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I gotta give it to this dictatorial bastard: he plays this shit really well.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:49 | 4892312 Haus-Targaryen
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Tylers, this is ridiculous. You need some more Tylers based in -1 and 0 GMT. Not getting my daily dose of ZH until after lunch makes the mornings drag on without reprieve.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:08 | 4892329 Ghordius
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LOL. know what you mean. yet let's face it, ZH is a small affair, and the main Tyler seems to be based in NY

you could do some homework, in the morning. go to http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-24/momentous-eu-summit-week , I was missing your angle, there

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 09:22 | 4892810 Wolferl
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And anyone who thinks that was done without the consent of the German government is a fool.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:47 | 4892059 jeff montanye
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compare his leadership with that of boris yeltsin, as a starting point.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:10 | 4892102 gonetogalt
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I read  'and by defecting on its European peers,'   as 'defecating on its european peers'.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:50 | 4892316 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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That made me laugh. Hard.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:26 | 4892346 pob
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I think your map needs updating Crimea is pink how !

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 07:23 | 4913209 luftmensch
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It seems hard to believe there would naturally be this many Putin lovers on this site?! Is it one guy with a bunch of fake Zerohedge accounts and proxy servers???

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:11 | 4891827 TheMeatTrapper
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He should get there like our western heroes like Madonna, Michael Jackson and Brittany. Then he could run around doing drugs, molesting kids and  going to rehab. Maybe he could marry a wealthy ketchup heiress. Maybe he could ne like John McCain and ride the coat tails of a powerful daddy. Maybe a low speed chase in a white Bronco after cutting his wife's throat. He really should follow our examples. Our way is so much better. 

 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:16 | 4891850 MeBizarro
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Of because Putin is an example of morality with at least one public mistress and many rumored others.  Let's not forget about how people cultural, political, or economic have ended up too since Putin came to power in Russia.  Jail, leave, and in some extreme cases assasination. 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:20 | 4891861 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Playing defensive, side tracking...

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:22 | 4891866 MeBizarro
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Did you provide any examples?  Of course not because there are none publicly available and how has any idea what Putin has stashed away domestically and internationally.  Just idiotic buzzword ranting which is par for the course for a lot of ZH posters. 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:50 | 4891931 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Did you provide any examples?  Of course not because there are none publicly available and how has any idea what Putin has stashed away domestically and internationally.

Banderatards have this special knack at dealing one statement and in the same breath, a non compatible statement.

I suggest you read your own sentence again. No ideas about what Putin has stashed away means that your claims of great theft, looting, pilfering are without ground and very zero.

But hey, dont worry, Kievan Yatzi Junta Citizenism citizens' standards are highly volatile and can shift with the wind.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 02:44 | 4892245 chumbawamba
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Are you two queers seriously going back and forth about this shit?  Shut the fuck up, this is stupid.  His sycophancy is stupid and your taking his sycophancy seriously is equally as stupid (if not more so because you should know better).

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:08 | 4892331 mumcard
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This from the pretentious asshole that has to announce his user ID at the end of every worthless post?

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:35 | 4892348 Miles Ahead
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KEYBOARD KOOL-AID ALERT!!!!!!  FUCK ME!!  Back to the MacStore.

+100!

And you forgot, it's usually "I am Chuwumbaba" or whatever.  But when he get's put in his place he just signs off "Chumba". lol...

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:28 | 4891876 Lore
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Whose hands are dirtiest?

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:37 | 4891897 MeBizarro
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Like the difference between various kind of cr@p.  Look I'm far from a 'ra ra American' and have no problem with this deal especially since it is in the Europeans best interest and Austria/Russia in particular. 

Just don't tell me that Putin's hands aren't dirty either and that he is come kind of force of moral good or openness.  He isn't.  Just has been outmanuevuring the US and has a much stronger hand especially when it comes to local geographic issues & energy.   

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:55 | 4892070 jeff montanye
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even assuming all you say about putin is true, and it isn't, the cold russian winter has no force of moral good or openness, yet it helped defeat napoleon and hitler.

see how that works?

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:38 | 4892352 Miles Ahead
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Yup. You got that right.  And oh look... they're at it again...

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 01:11 | 4892172 hobopants
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Alot of these misguided souls are rightfully fed up with the west's crap, and human nature being what it is they go over to the other extreme without thinking about it too much.

The common thought process on here seems to be "I hate the west, Putin hates the west, therefore Putin is my friend". They don't want to think about it much more than that, and any sort of truth shone upon Putin and his mafioso tactics threatens the fantasy they have built up around him.

The sad truth is they are weak and need somebody to believe in. They were tired of being America's bitch, so they willingly became Putins.

It's actually pretty damn funny, especially if you are familar with the soviet cult of personality phenomenon. If Putin knew the amount of useful idiots and tools he had at his disposal at ZH, he would be overjoyed.

Ideally they would have the capacity to view Russia (and everything else) with the same keen and critical eye that they view the west with, but then they would lose their security blanket and the world would be a scary place without the fantasy that a Russian dictator is going to look out for them and protect them from the boogeyman.

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:29 | 4892286 Lore
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You oversimplify, which is easy to do, considering your jingoistic frame of reference. It's hard to shake. We share the difficult position of having to choose from among a variety of evils, the most dangerous being servants of the "NWO." It can be argued that all sides are part of the same game grid.  Fair enough.  But which would you rather see: default on U.S. debt and reform of the monetary system along the multipolar lines brought forward by Eastern representatives, or the my-way-or-the-highway-fuck-you approach witnessed presently?  Because left unchecked, they are going to bring their destructive hell into your back yard, and really don't care which flag you wave.  The pyramid in their utopia is more steep and more bloody than the alternative.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:43 | 4892323 hobopants
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@Lore

You accuse me of over simplifying then produce a false dilema that contains only two possible outcomes to a complex situation...

You also dimiss my stance as jingoistic without substantiating your accustation with any evidence.

Sophistry at it's finest.

I also highly suggest you study the definition and contextual meaning of words before you use them, particularly Jingoism. I can only guess you made the false assumption that I support western hegemony because I question the motivations behind Putin's maneuvering.

(Either that or you possesed just enough intelligence to dimly grasp that it carried a negative connotation, and hoped that it's use would discredit me and lend weight to your otherwise weak argument/tangent/off topic rant.)

This would be incorrect, I'm merely lamenting the slavish, non-thinking worship of the man displayed by characters such as yourself.

Basically you tried to change the subject and paint me as a NWO shill because you got upset that I attacked the cult of Putin.

Props for speaking up though, most the idiots around here just hit the red arrow button because it hurts their feelings.

"PUTIN GOOD. YOU SAY PUTIN BAD SOMETIMES...I DON'T LIKE THAT! YOU BAD! DERP DERP"

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 06:00 | 4892366 Miles Ahead
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I also highly suggest you study the definition and contextual meaning of words before you use them

I, on the other hand, highly suggest you study the definition and contextual meaning of "yourself" before you use them.  Or it. Whatever.

Here: http://grammartips.homestead.com/self.html

Also provide a link for "dilema" as we idiots have no idea what that means.  Meanwhile I'm finished with my homework on "sophistry", "jingoism" and "derp derp".

Have a nice day idiot.

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:04 | 4892370 hobopants
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You still failed to produce an argument...but I'm glad I was able to help you expand your vocabulary, you badly need it.

I also greatly admire your use of the ad hominem fallacy to compensate for your lack of the ability to actually discuss what's being argued. You try, despite your mental handicap, and that's all that matters.

Me: "I beileve it is dangerous to idolize Putin, hero worship and nationalism has led to some of the worst atrocities seen by mankind and the trend I see on this site scares me, because people who are able to see corruption so well in the west have a huge blind spot when it comes to the east, thanks to their hatred of the current system."

Miles up Putin's ass: "You did a typo, and r dumb! long live Putin! I will defend you foreverez my Putin love"

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:09 | 4895437 Sirius Wonderblast
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Now come on, the thing that has been proven truly and unutterably dangerous through time is reeeeligion.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:46 | 4892357 Miles Ahead
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@Lore, you understood that selective-reality spaghetti logic?  My hat's off to you.  I read it sober, read it high, but couldn't make good sense of it either way. 

I'm about to man-up, pinch my nose, and try to plough through the follow-up response.  Wish me luck...

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:57 | 4892361 hobopants
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@Miles up Putin's ass

Cool argument bro, I especially like the part where you contributed your well thought out counterpoints. Oh wait...you got your feelings hurt and dismissed it as "Selective-reality spaghetti logic" without actually intelligently refuting any of it, and then high fived poor Lore in the hopes of some circle jerk action? got ya! I'm sure he will oblige, I hear he has a new putin poster for you guys to view while you go at it.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 07:32 | 4913218 luftmensch
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"without thinking about it too much."  Yes, but all the comments and votes on this site seem particularly well coordinated.  I would say ZH is on a list of sites targeted by Russian propagandists.  The Chinese have small armies of people who surf the web with multiple accounts, ask questions, answer them, upvote, downvote, etc., to continue to push their views about everything on the world.  I'm pretty sure we're seeing the same thing here.

 

Even crazy ZH readers don't love Putin this much.  This is flagrant psychological warfare being perpetrated on this site in real-time folks.  This and other sites are now part of the battleground for Russian expansionism.  They rightly see that those critical of the status quo might just be easy prey to their ludicrous talking points, especially if they repeat them over and over and over.


Wed, 06/25/2014 - 02:18 | 4892235 kenny
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Gimme more your prop dude!

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 02:56 | 4892249 JuliaS
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Putin got rid of western leaches who've infiltrated Russia under Yeltzin, and did it in a way to ensure they don't come back. He's looking out for his interest, which also happens to be the interest of the country, unlike here, where politicians and people are polar opposites. Because of his foresight and leadership, Vlad probably has better approval rating amongst Americans than the Telepdompter Diva-in-chief.

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:11 | 4892265 EverythingEviL
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Oh that's rich. I'm sure Vlads interest is the same as that of "his people". Just like Obummers interests are one in the same as America's people. I'll give it to Putin, he plays his populace like a fiddle when it comes to stirring up pride in ones own nation. You seem like a prime example Julia of one of the fools he's got singing his tune, because I'm damn sure that Russian politicians, Vlad included have the interest of their people first and foremost in their minds. Go sell your garbage somewhere else. You've got as big a political mafia there as we do here. Wake up you idiot

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 16:12 | 4894404 JuliaS
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 Gorbachev helped demolish the bankrupt USSR, destroying the iron curtain and opening public to direct influence of Western media. That was step 1 of the infiltration campaign. As soon as the nation warmed up to the idea of foreign intervention, the IMF financed coup got rid of Gorbachev's cabinet and installed Yeltzin, who opened the capital and resource doors to the West. IMF structured loans were the key aspect of his reforms. Under his rule, investment dollars rushed in, factories, mines and pipelines were privatized by the outsiders, and the Ruble was destroyed going through multiple devaluations due to Russian debts being denominated in foreign currencies. That eventually lead to defaults.
 
 When Putin entered office, he promised not to rock the boat and was unopposed by oligarchs who treated him as a friend, he then quickly changed tune, reclaiming all that was valuable by exterminating the vultures and putting his friends as replacements.
 
 Russia ended up benefiting tremendously under his rule. He kicked out Europeans and Americans, while keeping the money. Well, good for him, and good for Russia. He pulled Iceland on the IMF, and that's why they're so pissed.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 01:54 | 4896797 EverythingEviL
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Well thanks for the history lesson, though I already knew it. You glossed over my point being that Putin is as big a criminal as any of them and that he cares nothing of anyone outside his circle. The same goes for Obama and his cronies. You speak of him as Russian hero and such a great patriot. This patriotic bullshit is the mind of thing that makes people like you and so many others fall hook, line, and sinker for all these idiots in power.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 12:40 | 4898272 JuliaS
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All politicians are criminals. The difference is when private interests are alighned with those of the country, such as in Russian case, or being at odds like in America.

Russia's a big country with vast resources and valuable land. It takes a special kind of leader to run it. Putin's a perfect fit for Russia. Stalin, despite his war crimes and repressions was right for Russia. He used WW2 as an oportunity to expand borders.

Gorbachev and Yeltzin facilitated an outflow of resources. That was bad for the country as whole. Putin generates inflows of capital. That is good. In comparison, the lineup of recent politicians in America is like a lineup of Yeltzins. All they do is help foreign banks and offshore corporations plunder the land of its dwindlign resources. Instead of avoilding costly all out wars, like Putin, our presidents are eager to throw us into as many conflicts as possible. And it shows.

There's the kind of "selfish" that's good of the country - the kind of selfish that raises the standard of living and there's a bad kind of selfish - the kind that eradicates the middle class.

In Russia, prior to Putin there was no middle class. Even when Russia abandoned communist model and switched to a democracy, people didn't get any richer. All the resources were flowing off shore. His power grab helped lift Russia from dirt it was in for 10+ years.

Clinton, Bush and Obama together helped destroy whatever little was left of our economy. Thanks to them the middle class is practically extinct, the jobs are gone and the money will eventually be worthless.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 07:42 | 4913235 luftmensch
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Julia is actually an example of many Russians who believe facism is good.  However, the younger generation of Russians is more idealistic and would like to move towards a more open, free, democratic society rather than a klepto-oligarchy.  Putin has brought stability to Russia, but the price for that is that most of the wealth goes to his small group of friends, and Russia's economy is fucked -- try starting a small business there.  Due to the lack of opportunty, they will continue to not develop new industry, and lose their best and brightest.  Their main wealth just comes from pumping rotting ancient forests from the ground (oil) to create more global warming.  Lets all hope that Russia can continue to take small steps towards a freer happier societal structure.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:14 | 4894054 FlyingDutchman
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I don't know about others, but I kind of secretly think he's the only one who could clean up our mess.

I can't believe I'm even considering this, but it's true.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 09:40 | 4892894 Calmyourself
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Cough, Polonium,ahem..  I think no one is fooled by the ex KGB agent but sometimes a pure bastard is admirable in the sense he embodies the purity of the title..

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 13:12 | 4894050 FlyingDutchman
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Fortunately, western justice is fair and balanced, press is free and independant, politics is clean from money, and people love their leaders.

Just to be sure <sarc>

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:29 | 4891875 MeBizarro
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So there isn't rampant nepotism in Russia or among the Russian elite especially in Britain and London?  Yeah right sure.  As for the others, you sound like some old kooky white man railing about the young.  Go to bed. 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:01 | 4891955 Dublinmick
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Bizzaro is just not getting any

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:48 | 4892062 TheMeatTrapper
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"As for the others, you sound like some old kooky white man railing about the young.  Go to bed."

Let me tell you something you cocksucker. 

This old kooky white man will not only publish his name on the internet - he'll whip you're motherfucking pussy ass. Bring your ass down here and say that shit to my face you little piece of shit. 

Contact me at meattrapper@gmail.com. Tim Roper. Birmingham, Al. Bring it or shut the fuck up. http://meattrapper.com/about-us.html

Post your name, and your picture and come on down. Pussy.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:08 | 4892098 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Do you have to kill so many otters ????

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:24 | 4892115 TheMeatTrapper
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What is wrong with killing otters? What does nature end up doing with them - letting them live forever? No  - nature kills them in a lot more inhumane manner than I do. 

By the way - those are beavers in that picture - not otters. I feed my family off what I catch - that's why I "catch so many". Try to educate yourself before you show your ignorance. 

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:30 | 4892133 Anusocracy
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I do believe you've earned my respect.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:18 | 4892272 Advoc8tr
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 ... nothing like munching on some healthy young beaver :P

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:15 | 4892268 o2sd
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Otters are cute, beavers are not.

How does beaver (the animal) taste? Is it gamey, muddy? 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:52 | 4892287 mc225
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beaver for the win!

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:10 | 4892296 BringOnTheAsteroid
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If your family can eat half a dozen beavers then trap away. What do you do, preserve the meat or have you got one big ass family?

My only concern is if there were a hundred people like you there'd be no more beavers.

And don't be so fucking sensitive about someone questioning your hunting practices for fucks sake. In fact, trap and hunt all the fucking animals you want. As long as the animals are killed humanely is all I really give a fuck about.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 01:37 | 4892181 hobopants
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Responsible trapping doesn't hurt the environment, and is far less cruel than purchasing your meat from a factory farm.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:17 | 4892302 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Define responsible trapping. I totally agree in terms of the fate and life of farmed animals. There are however too many humans on the face of the earth and if everyone trapped responsibly there would be no wild animals left. It's a dilemma. I can't disagree with the MeatTrapper but to be honest, if it came down to humans or beavers, I'd choose beavers. We've well and truly outlived our welcome on this planet.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 11:28 | 4893401 mtl4
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Hello irony, the point of responsible trapping or hunting IS that there are animals left to support the population.  Humans haven't figured out how to limit ourselves so the planet's resources may help us out with how that works since animals understand it instinctively........that's what happens when your food just shows up on a store shelf instead of using more traditional methods.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:35 | 4892264 agNau
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Railing about the young????
Watch the sage ol' McGimp exiting the Northrup Grummen corporate jet, on return from Europe, waving and throwing the gimp with the good-un, and ranting loudly about blowing them bastuds to hell. When there on the Tarmac he spies young Dick Cheney, wheeling his hover- round into high gear with a nuke strapped on the back, headed toward Pennsylvania Ave. with a massive grimaced muttering face. While back at the ranch, the gay prince emerges from the gym, and reads intently from the t e l e p r o m p t e r ,"see Jane run!, see Dick run!, run Dick, run!" The staff showing no mercy has selected primary reading for the feminine prince.
" We absolutely must be prepared for an inevitable planned attack by me, I mean by ISIS on our soil. They are going to attack us. If it were not for our capturing and recording every conversation of every US citizen against their Constitutional rights, we would not know now that we were about to be attacked! We can't do anything to stop my attack on you with this knowledge, but without this information we would not be able to conclusively blame this attack on someone else besides me. At least as far as you know."
Meanwhile down in Harlem Chelsea and Hillary hold " will work for nothing" signs. Because " We weren't part of the go-go eighties!"

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:38 | 4891899 MontgomeryScott
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You dudes, dudettes, and ALL the ZH'ers are missing the historic repetition.

NOW, I suppose, the 'new savior' of the 'Western Powers' of the 'Eastern Powers' will try to ANNEX AUSTRIA, or something.

Austria, Poland, Chekoszlovakia, Hungary...

You REALLY THOUGHT that the so-called 'COLD WAR' ended, didn't you? It was ALWAYS 'their' bankers versus 'OUR' bankers.

They were busy telegraphing their punches for FUCKING DECADES, and YOU forgot that this was a 'legitimate means of takeover' (perhaps because you were too stoned to pay fucking attention to this).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIQCI1reA08

The GLOBAL 'Hitler' didn't really DIE. He just went home to RE-GROUP.

Without PLASTIC, you see, life ITSELF would be IMPOSSIBLE. 'PLASTICS' are a by-product of WHAT commodity? 1)Paper fiat currency. 2)Iron. 3) Wheat. 4)Corn. 5)The 'technology sector'. 6)OIL.

SIX.

SIX,

SIX!

(I can already see the 'down-arrow' count, as I post the link that is also the title to a song):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-iRf9AWoyE

This song fucking ROCKS! The twits and twats that try to blame the issues on various 'parties and divisions' obviously can't face themselves in their OWN fracking bathroom mirrors.

Do with this comment what you must.

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:18 | 4892271 o2sd
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This song fucking ROCKS! The twits and twats that try to blame the issues on various 'parties and divisions' obviously can't face themselves in their OWN fracking bathroom mirrors.

There is a bathroom mirror now that cracks sedimentary rock and releases hydrocarbons???!!! Holy shit bathroom mirror technology improved a LOT while I wasn't paying attention.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:18 | 4892273 EverythingEviL
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Maybe you could explain to us what your version of the beast is

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:36 | 4892351 ebear
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<raises hand>

 

6 - protons

6 - neutrons

6 - electrons

= carbon (basis of all known life)

probably just a coincidence.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 11:06 | 4893352 Z_End
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Brilliant!

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:30 | 4891880 Freddie
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Tonight - down in Mississippi - we see the GOPe NWO party stealing the primary for their RINO 90 year old incum-bent.   In the USA - all the elections are rigged.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 01:40 | 4896785 Archie1954
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You mean the old Soviet way. Russia is nothing like the Soviet Union.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:06 | 4891763 Lore
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The richest men in the world are largely unknown to the public.

You know why Putin is kicking ass?  It's because he TELLS THE TRUTH and STATES THE OBVIOUS and NEGOTIATES IN GOOD FAITH and HONORS CONTRACTS.  The checker players in this New Great Game are psychopaths, so corrupt, back-biting, and buried so deep in their own bullshit, that nobody wants anything to do with them. Would you deal with such people, when all they know is to steal, murder, create false flags and rationalize?  They are literal psychopaths, totally without honour.  If America is ever to regain moral high ground, it must find some way to contain the current wave of pathology. 

Bravo, Tyler.  This kind of research is what makes you worth your weight in physical gold.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:41 | 4891907 MeBizarro
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Agreed about the wealth.  You are assuming that there is something things are somehow radically different than they were before.  They aren't and if anything we are sadly at a moment of relative global peace by historical standards in terms of warfare.  It is groups of powerful people who look out for their own interests with some degrees of overlap but some significant differences too.  Always has been, always will be.  Only difference is that we are just great apes that over time have invented more sophisicated and horrifying ways of killing larger numbers of us.  

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:56 | 4891942 Lore
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I make no such assumption, and understand historical context at least as well as you.  In particular, I know enough not to mistake myself for one of "them." You must know that there are different subspecies.

Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:40 | 4892355 ebear
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successful parasites don't kill their host.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:26 | 4892124 prains
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Lore

I've known many russians and dealt with them in business, they are like everyone else, some are criminal dirt, some are fair and honest, it's by no means a passport thing. BUT Putin is an Oligarch like all the rest and got there by being the best criminal outof all the other potential russian criminals ( same as Stalin, same as Khrushchev).....just like all the other Oligarchs......it's odd that so many see him as a friendly beer drinking buddy who would never fuck you over in a deal.

 

where did all the love come from? he's just an Oligarch that has donkey punched american oligarchs for the last couple of years

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:33 | 4892301 Lore
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It's not love of Putin. It's fear of the alternative. "With great power comes great responsibility."  You see any resident oligarchs behaving responsibly?

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:54 | 4892073 downwiththebanks
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Yeah--Putin is POSSIBLY richer than the Rothchilds.

So am I.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:36 | 4891678 Odin
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Wake me up when the "citizens" of Austria start a revolution and decide that an ex Goldman partner would be the perfect candidate for their new chancellor.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:43 | 4891715 CheapBastard
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My nephew decided to attend summer school in Austria back in the 1990's and said the Austrians were extremely shrewd, clever and bright and quieter about it then the Swiss.

 

Now I see why.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:18 | 4891857 TheMeatTrapper
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Many years ago my cousin, A Special Forces officer, was driving through the Alps in Austria. He was lost as shit and hung over. He saw an old man splitting firewood and stopped to ask for directions. The old man was kind and gave him directions in English. 

Larry decided to spare the man some work and offered to split the remaining wood for him. The man agreed to take a rest. 

Before he struck the first blow the old man was all over him. He was using the wrong wedge for the wrong piece of wood the wrong way. He took the maul from my cousin because he obviously knew nothing about how to "properly" split wood. 

The Alabama redneck method of whack the shit out of it till it busts apart was in stark contrast to the Teutonic method of using the proper wedge based on the grain of wood being split. 

There's a lesson to be learned from that story. 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:35 | 4891884 Lore
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You mean to say that there is more to foreign policy than bombing the hell out of people?  ZHers sure get some strange ideas.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:11 | 4891977 MontgomeryScott
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All of the mentors that have been my priveledge to be allowed to know in my life's journey have been highly skilled in their various tradecrafts. Some of these went far beyond their calling when educating me in the various skills and abilities that they professed to.

I was taught from a young age to listen to all points of all arguments, and take away anything that might be of value (and discard the rest without trying to be too 'controversial'). Sometimes, this forced me into awkward positions (as; the Marine Corps recuiter tried to assure me a high place, or the Navy recruiter assured me of my 'choice of stations', or the Air Force recruiter promised me a position closer to the Pentagon, or the ARMY dude assured me that helicopters were 'perfectly safe' due to a 'NEW' invention called 'AUTO-ROTATION'). I was highly desirable THEN, and am still sought-after. The AARP just sent me an invitation for 'membership', and the fact that I didn't sign up for the Vietnam war isn't an issue, apparently.

YES, there IS more to 'American foreign policy' that 'bombing the shit out of people', but you wouldn't know it (thanks to the MSM; and electoral fraud). It's like Heinlein's novel 'Stranger In A Strange Land'.

I GROCK.

 

 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:21 | 4891996 MontgomeryScott
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"the Teutonic method of using the proper wedge based on the grain of wood being split"...

It's the fucking 'TITANIC', NOT the 'TEUTONIC'.

The spelling is incorrect.

The Teutonics might actually like to call the sunken ship the 'OLYMPIC', but that's another story.

It's based on the DIRECTION of THE grain of THE wood that IS TO BE split; as to the strength and direction of the well-placed blows from the sharpened axe. The guy took a trip and got fracking DRUNK and fracking LOST, and is trying to talk about how drunk he was when some 'mere mortal' tried to give him 'DIRECTIONS'.

Nice story, though.

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 04:22 | 4892307 Lore
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Look up 'Teutonic.'

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:44 | 4891717 Crawdaddy
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Queue intercepted phone call from the US ambassador to Austria in three, two...

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:56 | 4892079 downwiththebanks
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Between Polish blowjobs and Neuland's middle finger, Russia has done much better with the leaked phone calls of late.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 06:29 | 4892387 The_Prisoner
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They have tapped a lot more than that.

They have the recordings of the communications between the pilot of the SU-25 attack aircraft targetting civilians in Slavyansk and base, his name and rank.

He is from Poland.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:57 | 4892362 StormShadow
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"MO: That political correctness is merely fascism with a smiley face"

Spot on Knukles! Bravo!

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:07 | 4891578 Reaper
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Bulgaria would be happy to earn the transit fees in place of the Ukraine.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:10 | 4891584 stoneworker
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Well then they should stop "consulting" and get to building.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:12 | 4892419 tonyw
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I wonder how long it will take them to start skimming/stealing the gas?

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 08:08 | 4892498 supermaxedout
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A good idea, but  Bulgaria is within the EU, which means this is not going to happen.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 08:06 | 4892496 supermaxedout
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Plus the discount for the gas for Bulgarias own use.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 06:57 | 4892402 Crazy Or Not
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Turkey's Gas will be coming from trans Levant Qatari pipeline and Iraq Syrian piplines. 

At close of current missions in areas.....at least thats the plan ISIS may have other ideas.

Till then they're OK with Russian supply till it makes more sense to blow it up. 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 06:59 | 4892404 Kirk2NCC1701
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Notice also that, as it bypasses Turkey, it goes through the old Austro-Hungarian Empire territory. 

And it was that Empire that had held the Muslim invasion at bay for centuries, FBO the rest of Europe.  Recall that the Muslim/Turkish progression was stopped at the gates of Vienna itself.

The Austrian president might want to avoid trips to the Balkans this year, especially in the next few months.  Lest we all get that Deja Vu event.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:04 | 4892410 Crazy Or Not
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Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:36 | 4892456 Kirk2NCC1701
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[1] Pipeline/Russian gas = NO USD

[2] US LNG = USD

For those who missed it. I'll spell it out...

As the US Neocons are trying to wins a legal/procedural battle in Brussels regarding Competition (Russia gas + Russian pipelines = Monopoly), it should be argued that not only is the US doing the same, but playing an even more insidious anti-competition game with the forced use of its fiat USD and its GRC status.  What the Russians are doing, is to break that USD hegemony.

Seems to me that some clever lobbyists (high-priced solicitors/lawyers) are merely trying to front-run this reality, with a clever game of reverse name-calling:  "It's not US.  It's You (Russians) who are the anti-competition mafia".

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 08:03 | 4892492 supermaxedout
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The Anschluß II

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:52 | 4891521 stoneworker
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Am I the only one that believes that the EU commission does not work in the interests of the EU? I think all is not rosy for Russia as the article describes from what I know Bulgaria is still "consulting" the EU commission after the mentioned talks with the US senators( I really want to listen to the  explanation he gives to his voters about why they should not receive cheap gas..)."Needless to say, the European Commission is furious, and is digging in its heels saying South Stream does not comply with EU competition law because it offers no access to third parties. South Stream also, as noted above, counters the EU's policy of diversifying supply sources to reduce dependence on Russia." I think this is just a pure nonsense law, because ownership is based on payment...if the EU wants to own the pipeline they should build it themselves...otherwise it seems that Russia has to build the pipeline and provide access to third parties...that makes zero sense. If they want to diversify they should try building a pipeline from somewhere else...so far I don't see anybody that wants to do that, so while they go on diversifying why not simply build the pipeline. My conspiracy theory for the day is the the EU commission is directly controlled by the US that would actually explain why they allowed the EU to be created in the first place.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:54 | 4891532 MachineMan
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Does any government work in the interests of their "people"?

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:00 | 4891554 stoneworker
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I am not even talking about people...the elites of a certain nation...the local oligarchs. Whatever you want to call the people that run a country.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:22 | 4891626 Bingo Hammer
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Yes a certain nation that cannot be named otherwise the troll machine goes into total attack mode

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:17 | 4892111 jeff montanye
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i'm not sure even israel does work in the, particularly long-run, interests of its people.  they just flat out do not have the birthrate to sustain their population on the conquered lands of greater israel, aka palestine, in a sea of a billion increasingly wealthy, educated and hostile muslims. in time their zionist government will go the way of the south african apartheid one it so nearly resembles.

things didn't look so rosy for mandela in 1986 when reagan vetoed the anti-apartheid act, yet mandela walked out of prison four years later and was president of south africa four years after that.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:33 | 4891662 Ness.
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Yulia "Princess Leia" Tymoshenko comes to mind.  If I recall she's the once Ukrainian Gas mogul/former Uke Prime minister who suggested nuking 8 million Russians (even tho Ukraine doesn't actually have any nukes - insert USSA here).  I wonder if she gives a better blowjob than 'Poland'?

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:08 | 4892096 stoneworker
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I bet she does.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 01:52 | 4892224 Phuk u
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Yes, she doesnt even have to get out of her wheelchair.

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 03:06 | 4892258 BorisTheBlade
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If by better you mean deeper, then certainly answer overwhemingly positive.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:21 | 4891859 HardAssets
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These egomaniac pyschopaths do what they want.

Their only concern about 'the people' is that they be fooled enough so that their resources can be use in the crooks schemes. And, the way the high tech spying police state is progressing, is seems they are becoming less concerned about what the people think at all.

Zbigniew :  "Its easier to kill a million people today than to control a million people."

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:48 | 4891919 COSMOS
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Reminds me that another somewhat famous Pole said 'It is easier to give a blowjob and expect favors'

In my opinion they did it cause they liked it and it tasted like a McDonald's Shake, cause that is what I had before I undid my zipper for the Polish diplomats, that is reward enough in my opinion.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:12 | 4892420 Kirk2NCC1701
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If you say so.  But it explains why I never like McD Shakes: it goes against Kirk's nature.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:27 | 4895505 Sirius Wonderblast
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Anything from McDubious is most certainly highly uneasy.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:09 | 4892416 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sometimes, yes.  Especially if dealing with a genuine external threat.  When one religion invades the turf of another.

E.g. When the Muslim/Ottoman invasion of Europe went on, it was the ancestors of these pipeline countries who fought them.  They were Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Christians.  Not Anglos from London or Protestants from Brussels.

The anti-Muslim sentiments still run deep in these countries, given the bloody history.  Perhaps Spaniards will remember their similar history as a sign from God, as the plane of their losing World Cup team got struck by lightning[1], and the Arabs build another mosque[2] in Madrid.

[1] http://rt.com/news/168212-spain-football-team-lightning/

[2] http://rt.com/news/168100-qatar-build-barcelona-mosque/

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:29 | 4895512 Sirius Wonderblast
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There was rather a lot of crusading went on, and the Normans did get to establish Outremer at Jerusalem.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:52 | 4891749 Crawdaddy
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The EU commision is filled with european babel worshipers. They even came right out and admited that they are building a new tower of babel. They have a building that admits it, they printed up posters that admit it. These guys HAVE to tell us what they are going to do in advance so they can say "You were told in advance. Silence is a choice. You did nothing so therefore you voted for it."

http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-eu-parliament/

Sort of like Obummer saying he needs a civilian army, as well equipped as the military...

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:16 | 4891849 disabledvet
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did they say this to all of Europe of "just the ones that counted"?

I mean...it seems more than just a little ridiculous to call one of the most advanced places on Earth beholden to a single commodity.

I have been reading up on my Finnish history btw.
http://www.cookyourdream.com/2010/03/karelian-pies-winter-holiday-and.html

mmmmm. Karelian cooking. My favorite.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:03 | 4891925 Crawdaddy
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I always thought of the creation of the EU as a spontaneously created homeowners association. One day you find out 3 out of 100 of your neighbors want to create a "commission." You and the rest of your 96 uninterested neighbors tell them to get bent and leave you alone. You get a monthly newsletter from the 3 dumbasses in the commission. You ignore it because they are clearly monomaniacal and insane. 3 years later they tell you to mow your grass higher or be fined. 5 years later they tell you to tear down your garage because it is in the way of migrating geese. Then you find out everything they say is backed up by guns.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:14 | 4891983 Sandmann
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Then you could not be more wrong. It is as "spontaneous" as Abraham Lincoln waging war to preserve the Union. It was designed in 1920s based on the League of Nations and pushed post-WW2 by MI6 and CIA with Josef Retinger.......it was a project of the elites to create oligarchy......the US arrived at oligarchy through a different route

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:37 | 4892039 Crawdaddy
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Good catch - bad word choice. Believe me sand - I don't see it as spontaneous. Long planned by bad bad people. Generational. And what glues generational beliefs? Money? Ha if that was the case the Hilton Corp would be gone in a blaze of Paris Hilton glory, done in by an all in bet on Doggie Handbags, Inc.

These clans are glued by religion. They picked sides with the team that promises worldy riches.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:18 | 4892424 Kirk2NCC1701
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"You were told in advance. Silence is a choice. You did nothing so therefore you voted for it."

Correct.  Still true today... for those ZHers naively who advocate abstaining from voting, I say: "Silence IS a choice.  Being a coward IS a choice.  You did nothing, so therefore you voted for it.  And when good people remain silent, evil prospers."  Same as it ever was.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:32 | 4892025 MontgomeryScott
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Well:

You see, there were these seven guys stranded on an island...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjxHgBRWMhY

 

 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:23 | 4891628 doctor10
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Its all Kabuki. The Central Bankers desperately need a "USA-EU vs Russia-China" situation to make world government a go. In fact that's prob why they created the EU - to be able to set up this precise  scenario.

At the end of the day it beats the heck outa all the peasants starting a good game of "cowboyz and bankerz" which is really the only other alternative.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 07:21 | 4892431 Kirk2NCC1701
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Cowboys and Bankers = Cowboys and Aliens = metaphor.

Weren't the Aliens also after Gold?  Suspect they still are.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 18:36 | 4895543 Sirius Wonderblast
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I trust that involves shooting the bankers!

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:26 | 4891641 f16hoser
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I like Putin. He knows how to "Piss-Off" the Rockefellers and the Jew's (Banksters)!!!

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:34 | 4891889 XuscitizenSweden
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"I guess that not everyone buys the EU energy policies..........",

However, the american 'bought' Swedish FM Carl Bildt shoots off his mouth not knowing what the US-7 Sisters policy/ EU Energy Policy really is.

'Asset' Carl Bildt is surely having a problem keeping up with US Ambassder to Sweden Mark Brezinki's instructions. Oh, that's right! Mark is CFR's Ziggy Bresinki's son.

& yeah, Carl Bildt is an asset since the 70's. Take a look, here are the declassified documents:

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126306.svt/binary/tgm01.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126310.svt/binary/tgm02.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126312.svt/binary/tgm03.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126313.svt/binary/tgm04.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126319.svt/binary/tgm05.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126320.svt/binary/tgm06.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126321.svt/binary/tgm07.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126323.svt/binary/tgm08.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126325.svt/binary/tgm09.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126327.svt/binary/tgm10.pdf

http://www.svt.se/bildt--excellensen/article1126330.svt/binary/tgm11.pdf

Last but not least, this guy Bildt is a serious NWO-contender to take over after EU-FM Catherine Ashton.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:45 | 4892056 MontgomeryScott
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UM...

Holy fucking shit!

REALLY?!?

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 00:07 | 4892095 janus
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gentlemen,

it is often our custom to bypass posts excessively cluttered with links.  may i humbly advise all to read ALL of XuscitizenSweden's links?  hate on janus all you bitchez want, but, again, please take a moment to review all of these.

in them you will see how democunts & republifags are but chimeras conjured ex nihilo by our boyz in langley (on a global basis)...you will see our concerted and deliberate attempt to confine nuclear power within the 'manageable' and easily crippled limits of petro-hegemony's pleasure...you will see that carl rove was on the dole as early as 1975...you will see -- oh, my brothers, if'n you can read between lines, you will SEE!

langley, i'm keen to hobble the wierdos in maryland, too...but i haven't forgotten YOU...nor have a few others who've been stalking YOU for quite a while.

i believe the phrase, "smash and scatter it to the four winds..." still applies.  at least for janus it still does.

carl rove, poor thing.  he had little choice -- tough being a mormon when you've gotta scamper from secrets like his (ain't janus right, mrs. piggy?...oh, carl, don't get your panties in a wad.  we're all just people -- and janus only uses what he's given; which is to say, he plays by the 'rules'.  game on, mo-fos).

but, langley, there's an easy way outta all this shit -- and it's as simple as favoring another (and vastly superior) strategy.  but, fuck it, i sure as shit wouldn't mind seein you all stand in bread lines.  hell, i (being the 'sociopath' that i am) wouldn't even wince if'n y'all were all lined up and, well...you boyz know.  janus has a sense of humor, too -- after all.

ps. carl, give my best to jeff gannon, or guckert, or...whatev.  you know, the 'talon news' super slueth. 

oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to deceive.

D.C. (democunts & republifags)  the clock is ticking.

here's a dedication for the fags and cunts in langley...much love, bitches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr2iDWQSwsI

open up your mind/

and let me step inside/

it's so easy/

when you know the rules,

janus

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 05:23 | 4892344 Jannn
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LBMA Forum Singapore: SGE Chairman Confirms Chinese Gold Demand In 2013 Hit 2000 MT

http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/lbma-forum-singapore-sge-chairman-confirms-c...

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 06:18 | 4892380 YouSerious
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Russia is selling everything it has for profit of a few oligarchs. It is a frozen third world wasteland that failed its people miserably. Spend EURO and USD buying Western goods you fools Russia. 

 

They think they playing chess it was checkmate 5 moves ago and they have not figured out they lost to the west decades ago.

 

 

 

 

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 06:18 | 4892381 YouSerious
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Russia is selling everything it has for profit of a few oligarchs. It is a frozen third world wasteland that failed its people miserably. Spend EURO and USD buying Western goods you fools Russia. 

 

They think they playing chess it was checkmate 5 moves ago and they have not figured out they lost to the west decades ago.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:50 | 4891436 COSMOS
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#FuckenTotenKopOff to the USA State Dept from Austria with Love and some Fahrtens in your general direction to boot.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:27 | 4891638 CrashisOptimistic
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You know what?  This is a good fucking article.

It lays out the truth and doesn't spend any time on propaganda.

We see it a lot in comment threads, but it's absolutely, unequivocally applicable:

"Who run Bartertown?"

When shale rolls over, soon, Bartertown will be just down the street.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:26 | 4891438 linniepar
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Three top stories on zh is the death cross backwardation of rehypothecated quadruple witching of the go-fo rates. Ruh roh

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:26 | 4891443 LetThemEatRand
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The real struggle is over whose currency will be fixed to the gas.  The bankers want a new global currency and, sadly, Putin is playing into their hands even though he makes a good show of being against them.  The U.S. opposition is theater because we all know who controls the U.S.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 20:59 | 4891549 stoneworker
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You may be right, but I think everything is not that simple. The bankers are a tool(objects) not the people who are actually controlling anything...controlling requires force I can name a couple of three letter agencies that are better suited for this role(probably the same ones that led to all of those banker deaths)...but it is probably a cooperation between all of these forces that allows the people that are behind the scenes to remain anonymous and in power. Lets just hope that all of this is not Kabuki theater. I doubt it is....there were plans to break up Russia into like 80 regions...it's still there.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:12 | 4891582 LetThemEatRand
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Who do you think funds the three letter agencies?  And who do you think funds the politicians who allow them to exist outside the law?  Always follow the money.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:18 | 4891609 stoneworker
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You don't need anybody to "fund" you when you have a secret army of assassins that are brainwashed to believe anything you tell them...money and power are different things.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:19 | 4891615 LetThemEatRand
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So why does a guy with a trillion dollars want more?   Power is the end game.  The money is a means to an end.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:06 | 4891804 Crawdaddy
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Some guys with trillions want to be "as gods." Hence their never ending shit disturbing.

Wed, 06/25/2014 - 09:20 | 4892802 IndyPat
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You also don't need "funding" when you've cornered the market on opium/heroin production and distribution.

Teach a man to fish, as they say....

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:02 | 4891551 BLOTTO
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Yes, the controllers are the Rothschild and royal blue blood families that trace their lineage back to the 'beginning.'

We are ruled by 'people' who think they are gods and think that its their divine right to rule over us.

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Money is a massive control device - but this is beyond money. We're talking mysteries of the Universe and beyond anything material, where if we knew the truth - we wouldnt ever worry about money again...it would be so beneath us i would suspect.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:07 | 4891575 john39
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totally agree. esotoric knowledge is the true power. 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:13 | 4891591 Chupacabra-322
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What among The Global Criminal Oligarch Religious Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate is referred to as "The Hidden & Knowledge".

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:09 | 4891583 stoneworker
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I used to think that conspiracy theorists were all crazy....until I actually did a little research, but I still don't buy the Rothschilds rule the world Illuminati stuff...If I was going to rule the world I would make sure that nobody knew my name. Anyway you may be right but lets hope you are not.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:40 | 4891659 BLOTTO
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I think the fictitious idea of the story is in itself, a great disguise...

Because as you can see across the globe....the masses are asleep and aloof. But, without caarrying on... if you look with an open mind and recognize the symbols they use, dates they do things on and have created, astrology, etc...it starts to stick out.

I believe someone has provided us with truths - but its jumbled in with deception, omissions and manipulations.

 

 

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 21:47 | 4891728 Bay of Pigs
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These NWO globalists and bankster parasites will have their day of justice one day and it wont be pretty.

Fuck them all.  

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:04 | 4891789 john39
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The biggest secrets are absolutely hidden in plain sight.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 23:12 | 4891978 Dublinmick
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Kingship was establsihed by the Sumerians, unfortunately the current crowned heads killed them all in palace coups and we have what we have today.

China's last emporer, Mary queen of Scots beheaded, Alexander poisoned, Joan of Arc burned at the stake.

Tue, 06/24/2014 - 22:10 | 4891821 Crawdaddy
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No Rothschild alive today goes an hour without being reminded who set them into business in the first place.

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