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“It’s going to get a lot hotter in the United States over the next 100 years, and worse going forward," notes a report cited by Bloomberg.The report, below, fearmongers the mutually assured destruction that will happen if something is not done right now about global warming (despite the implications being out to the year 2200) concluding... "The risks are much more perverse and cruel than we saw with the financial crisis, because they accumulate over time...a business-as-usual approach is actually radical risk-taking." Can you guess who sponsored the report and used those M.A.D. words?
First, the report via Bloomberg,
In a report published today called “Risky Business,” commissioned by some of America’s top business leaders to put price tags on climate threats. For example, by the end of the century, between $238 billion and $507 billion of existing coastal property in the U.S. will likely be subsumed by rising seas, and crop yields in some breadbasket states may decline as much 70 percent.
But perhaps the biggest way Americans will physically experience global warming is, well, the warming. By 2050, the average American is likely to see between two and more than three times as many 95 degree days as we're used to. By the end of this century, Americans will experience, on average, as many as 96 days of such extreme heat each year.
The report breaks down “extremely hot” days by region to show what a child born in the past 20 years can expect to see over a lifetime.
The rising heat will strain the U.S. energy system,
As time goes on, the situation worsens.
By the end of the century, the Southeast will see an additional 11,000 to 36,000 people die each year from heat-related conditions as the region swelters under as many as 130 more days of extreme heat, according to the report.
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If humans continue to pollute greenhouse gases on the current trajectory, the average Midwesterner could see an HHSI of 95 degrees two days every year by the end of this century. By the end of next century it will be impossible to remain outdoors without a cooling system for 20 days a year.
"The risks are much more perverse and cruel than we saw with the financial crisis, because they accumulate over time...a business-as-usual approach is actually radical risk-taking."
And in case you were wondering who would create such scaremongery (rightly or wrongly) and Mutaully Assured Destructive words?
Today’s report was funded by
Hank Paulson, the former head of Goldman Sachs and Treasury Secretary under George W. Bush,
by former hedge fund manager Tom Steyer and
by Michael Bloomberg, former mayor of New York and founder of Bloomberg LP. Backers also include former U.S. Treasury Secretaries George Shultz and Robert Rubin.
Forget TARP - this time it's the world!!!
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Matt, we are incapable of rationalising future risk, especially WELL into the future. I have to rub my eyes, rub my forehead before trying to respond, from the exhaustion of saying the same thing over and over. All this pollution whether plastics in the ocean, industrial waste in the rivers and oceans, radioactive fallout whether from bombs, disused subs or blown up reactors, oil from blown out wells in the Gulf of Mexico, fracking fluids in the aquifers. It's all accretive. Slowly but surely the levels build. How many times do I have to draw the analogy of bacteria in an agar plate, they'll either consume all the resources or die in their own excrement. What is it about this analogy that people fail to draw the obvious parallels to human existence.
There are 500 reactors in the northern hemisphere. China is undertaking the building of several of the largest reactors in the world to date. We will face extinction I beleive within my lifetime and if not extinction then a savage depopulation that will set human civilisation back centuries. Fuck, I don't understand how people can witness Fukushima and then assume the same will not happen many more times. It's a horrifying reality I know. The fact these reactors exist means essentially that nothing can go wrong, they need uniterrupted power for the rest of our lives.
It gets better than that, with no long term storage in America, the spent rods will sit in spent fuel ponds for centuries, requiring uninterrupted power and water, containing thousands of tons of waste.
Maybe things will be apocalyptic, maybe not. Not much to do about it now.
I keep trying to err on the side of optimism myself until I am dragged kicking and screaming back to that place you find yourself in when waking from a nightmare, only you've been awake all along. Holy shit, how has this happened. The true black swan for the demise of the human race well may be the collapse of the food chain, whether it be the bees, sardines or phytoplankton. It will happen so fast because every living organism is dependent on every other living organism. I was wondering if, for example, the entire sardine population collapsed, then everything above it would die in exactly the same time frame. There's no get out of jail free cards, I think it's that cut and dried. The lower down the food chain a collapse of one species, the worse the outcome.
And in fact the area around Chernobyl has become a wildlife refuge because the people are gone, and the bears and such are thriving.
yeah, but have you seen their offspring? The insects in the exclusion zone are by far the most messed up, and the spiders.
Not bad, you say?
http://www.opednews.com/populum/printer_friendly.php?content=a&id=180047
This is a Fukushima 'update', but Chernobyl is mentioned.
Oh, is it ever.
Every day, every week, every month, every year this will just get worse and worse. This is a nightmare of truly historic proportions even if this never happens again. This is not possible with 500 reactors in the northern hemisphere and I would not at all be surprised for this to happen another 10 times in my lifetime, whether caused by more seismic events, weather events or war. If you look at how many reactors in Japan are built over a fault line you then realise, we are fucked and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it now.
Given global temperature has actually FALLEN by one degree over the last 100 years, it is no longer the done thing to talk about global warming. Please now use "Climate change".
That some serious made up shit you pulled out of your ass...
Here are the decadal averages going back to 1880 my little bundle of Hedgetard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_temperature_change_-_decadal_av...(NOAA).png
And note the following
In the 1990s every year was warmer than the 1980's average
In the 2000s every year was warmer than the 1990's average....
Oh look there he is!! Quit someone get the camera!!
The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%)
I tend to agree with you on some of your posts, Flak. However, your data could just be noise.
I might just get the support for my contention from a certain Fedchair.
And then again your post could simply be utter bullshit while containing a valid statement of our best estimate of the earth's age...
Dude serious, learn to chill.
And you should learn to STFU when you have no idea what you are talking about...
Here is classic NID word salad taken from 4891757
"When you chart using a regression, you should be averaging everything within the same scalar. Then your resolution can not alter your end results. That's something you should learn to do and then figure out what exactly it means. "
Might as well be pig latin. I cant figure out what it means.
Some people.
Surely, the government would never lie to us!
Hey Hack! Please tell us how many decades since the nadir of the Mini Ice Age haven't been warmer than previous ones.
Oh, that's right, it's only the ones since 1950 that count.
Lulz.
And I am taller than I have ever been, stupid old woman.
The planet hs been emerging from the Little Ice Age. Global warming is natural. What is unnatural is the "carbon" hoax.
Hey dumb fuck, the last interglacial maxium was 10,000 years ago..
Flax? 10,000 years is a split second in geologic/climo time.
Yep and so is our civilization...
"In the 1990s every year was warmer than the 1980's average
In the 2000s every year was warmer than the 1990's average...."
In the denialist playbook, this is all a) conincidence or a b) fraud perpetrated by 10000s of scientists in collaboration, with no defections from the conspiracy.
Except of course a brave few who just, coincidentally happen to recieve money fron the Kochtopus. Funny, that.
Temperatures haven't fallen over the last 100 years... though poor 'corrections' to the raw data have made the increases seem bigger than they really have been.
Add to the fact that many of the weather stations are based at airports which have undergone increased usage over the decades, and you have the explanation for some of the 'hottest eva!!!' headlines we've been seeing.
Incidentally - it makes total sense to know what temperature it is at an airport because it effects the flying characteristics of aircraft. It makes zero sense to use that data to feed into determinations regarding global temperature changes over time.
My what a dumb fuck you are, from the GISTEMP page
""Global Warming" is another manufactured crisis to control and bleed the populace."
With what, 10 cents on the gallon at the pump?
Don't kid yourself.
"Funny how the last Ice Age ended without any help from humanity."
Thanks for clearing up that you havent a clue about what the problem about AGW is.
They are coming to loot what's not nailed down . And then come back with a crowbar. And all in the name of saving your ass.
and conveniently for the warmer-goons, there would be no way to prove them wrong. They pursue and can't lose agenda.
These frauds spend trillions of our money on insance pet projects, it gets a few degrees hotter, they say 'see, man is causing the planet to warm, we staved of a 10 degree increase, and we need much more funding'. If it gets a few degrees cooler, they say 'see, we're geniuses and we saved your asses and we need much more funding to continue saving your asses'.
Yup. They're jumping up and down about a 1 degree temperature change when the accuracy of measurement devices in the past century is +/- 2 degrees (at least).
the whole agw scam is to help goldman sachs get their bonuses. that's it. the whole damn scam. inconceivable.
Goldman bailed (sold their shares in the carbon credit exchange) 2 years ago. That was when I knew the AGM scam was blown. You still hear the yelling of the True Believers but it will get fainter and fainter since the big boys moved on.
We can only hope... and spread the word.
there has to be an angle otherwise why is hank paulson slithering out of the woodwork lately? don't get me started on the al gore - squid connection.
Just sheer goodwill to mankind, I'm guessing.
Oh, sorry Flak, should have said humankind.
I just plan on loading up a bunch of huge solar panels on my roof to power the Air Conditoning to the max
Speakin' of Blind Faith, ...
How much is Canada going for?
Print something, Janet and send it to whover is running that joint.
Hey man I live in Canada. Come on up, I have some prime beach front property on Baffin Island for sale, get in on the new tropical paradise before it's too late.
Coldest winter in 100 years where I live.
you don't understand the Jetstream...(sarc)
"Coldest winter in 100 years where I live."
Do you know what the flattening of a propability distribution entails, especially since this is what global warming theory predicts?
Or in Zh parlance: "fat tails".
Nobel Laureate Al Gore says that it (The North Pole) will be ice free in a few weeks, which may be tricky given that the ice is about three metres thick, and the forecast is for below freezing temperatures the next two weeks.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/that-new-kind-of-ice/
Apparntly Gore got suckered into that Baffin Island scam I have been hearing about.
Even WUWT says Goddard is full of shit...
Archived here
https://archive.today/dReXO
Turn over your guns before it gets too hot
http://www.climatedepot.com/
Population reduction is THE ONLY SOLUTION but we collectively seem incapable of arriving at this obvious conclusion. Men want to root and woman want babies so you c an kiss your carbon reduction goodbye. Mother nature will sort this out, it'll just be a little tumultuous is all. Consider an agar plate with a bacteria colony on it. It will simply keep growing until the resources/food have been depleted at which point the entire colony dies. In our case the earth is the agar plate and the odd nuclear meltdown here and there might hurry things along.
In our lifetime, I have to pinch myself when I type this, we will see a decimation of the human population. Just watch Alan Bartletts "The greatest threat to humanity is out lack of understanding of the exponential function". The pond is half covered with lily pads and the next doubling is the final one. If you were dumb enough to have kids because you couldn't see this coming, dumb enough to be the final contibutors to the population explosion by adding that last generation of bacetria to the agar plate, your decision will come home to bite you in the most cruel and unforgiving manner.
Hey if that is the answer you want to jump on, feel free to go on ahead without us.
Meanwhile I will be here trying to encourage expansionism into space peacefully.
And I thought AGW was a pipe dream. Make into space, where, Mars? That planet is starting off where the earth is headed and you think humans can live there?
I know, prior to that last doubling everything feels fine, those bacteria think life is great, look at all the resources. We are are funny species. I have to agree though, sex without a rubber sure feels good.
Do you know what is all over the surface of the moon? Helium-3.
I can think of about almost 8 billion reasons why that would be worth going into space for.
Mate, we can't manage one planet let alone two.
Now the Libs can save two planets. For the children.
without being able to predict the weather on either....yawn
People who are concerned about global overpopulation should take direct, personal action.
I am childless and intend to stay that way.
Yes, having a child would cramp your life style.
It's not a matter of cramping of lifestyles. How many people does this earth need? We have 7 billion. Shit why not make it 14 billion. If I felt compelled to have kids I'd adopt, and often wonder why all the bleeding hearts out there who love children so much don't have 2 biological kids and then adopt the rest.
Oh, no, you can't talk about that, you can't for a second suggest people don't be so fucking selfish and consume far more than their fair share of resources by having more than 2 kids. What would it take falcom, what conditions on the earth would it take before a majority of people said enough is enough.
population vs resource control and this ALWAYS skips what TPTB use, destroy and control via chaos/war/mayhem while commuting in their air planes, flying in their wines for overseas dinners and globalist meetings to plan our modest lifestyles ....due to become extremely modest so a few few can live as they wish with total power and control of world resources, meanwhile they enjoy the benefits of the drug trade, human slavery trade and profits from fiat money...
yep me having a child and Ted Turner having a bunch while crying overpopulation is the real issue destroying life as we know it...but then its apparently obvious that it is ALL about who's entitled to what resources.
My home nation went from bread basket with amazing wildlife, to shit not because the resources vanished but because the owners were forcibly changed via war.
This applies to MANY nations and has zip to do with population size.
You don't think that resource wise that the US is over populated do you? Never mind the question of their herd like tendencies. I can believe India, China, and several other nations are, since they cannot feed themselves.
You just don't have much to do with the environment do you falcon?
OK mate, the US isn't over populated. The country is covered in huge swathes of pristine ecosystem, the waterways are untouched, the aquifiers pure, the top soil gorgeous, the quality of food unparalleled, so much energy there's no need for nuclear reactors or fossil fuels.
If it came to sustainability of the world and it's resources and ecocsystems the world would be better off with India than the US. You just don't seem to understand just how much resources we wealthy westerners consume. I guess you have nothing to compare to, everything you do seems normal and this can't really be held against you.
People, like yourself, will simply not realise what is happening until way too late. Again, hardly anything than can be held againbst you because you are well within the norm. My folks mirror your views exactly and they've been right, up until Fukushima blew up. This will be the defining moment in human history. The emergence of nuclear energy has direct ties to population pressure on energy requirements because where the hell else are governments going to get the energy to keep the lights on.
No but seriously, fucking start with yourself and let us know how that population reducation plan works out you smarmy little hypocrite.
Hey cunt, I don't have any kids you fucking breeder.
Breeder?
That's a homo word.
Oh, OK, I'll clarify, I neither have kids nor am I homosexual. Claiming people shouldn't have kids and being a homo would most certainly be disingenuous. Thing is, homo's want kids don't they, every bit as much as heterosexuals?
I suspect as life becomes ever more stressful through competition for depleting reswources mother nature will weave her magic and more and more people just won't feel like having kids. It's probably already happening in Japan.
The sad thing is that the population is going to crash one way or another, so wouldn't it be better for every single person to do their bit by limiting their breeding (sorry, reproduction) to just replacement population numbers, say 2 kids. Can anybody here tell me what the fuck is wrong with that?
This is a public service announcement. Every heterosexual male within the liberty movement needs to consider semen cryopreservation.
Public Service Annoucement 2
If you are "elite" you may control and restict all resources needed for life to make a profit (including bottling water and poisoning water sources) you have central banker power behind you. Do as you wish and blame population growth on your terrible lack of competition and open warrant to destroy what you want, because you have a monopoly backed by guns.
Now all uselesseaters should blame themsleves and not have the children they want and will love, cause its all our fault if things go pear shaped. Even better be afraid of raising a child in this troubled world- that really excites my master His Royal Virus, Turner, Gates and the other Masters of Our Universe.
Jesus motherfucking christ uselesseater.
HAVE YOUR KIDS, LOVE THEM, CHERISH THEM, JUST NOT SO FUCKING MANY OF THEM. JESUS FUCK ME DRUNK, WHAT THE FUCK IS IT THAT PEOPLE STRUGGLE TO GRASP. TWO FUCKING KIDS AND THEN ADOPT THE REMAINDER IF YOU WANT MORE. IS THAT SO FARKING HARD TO GRASP. YOU STILL GET YOUR TWO DARLING, PRECIOUS CHILDREN AND THEN CALL IT QUITS.
MOTHER FUCKING STICK MY HEAD IN THE FUCKING SAND AND SHOOT ME FOR FUCKS SAKE.
It is???
How do you know that? I have not ever heard the term.
Pretty sure it is, it's their way of being derogatory to the heterosexuals. They deserve at least one derogatory term given the shit heterosexuals have given them over millenia.
Yeah..But how did Dr. Everett V Scott know that? Is he a homosexual?
...and they'll keep getting shit over the coming millenia too.
It's just a funny term, "breeder", because even though it's meant offensively, it isn't offensive at all. It's like they're trying to say, "Reproduction is so weird, right? What species on earth would ever want to propagate? Life propagating life, ew, that's just GROSS!"
Hahahahaha, we'll breed ourselves into the dust mate, you just can't see it can you. In a sick and twisted way the homo's will be proven right in the end. Just give it time until our contempt for other life forms and the ecocsystem as a whole comes home to roost. The suffering will be an epidemic but you'll have the comfort of being able to cradle your children while they either starve to death or die of radiation poisening. Not a very pleasant outcome and one we could have collectively avoided if we could think outside the confines of our little lives.
In our lifetime, I have to pinch myself when I type this,
Stop the Partiridge family bus and pull it over to the side of the Pretentiousness Parkway. You're pinching yourself for writing that shit? That usually means it is because you can't believe how great something is. You're the same prick that got a hard-on or a tingly feeling up his leg or whatever when BO spoke, aren't you?
Why don't you commit suicide right after killing anyone related to you biologically or in thought processes? We'll be better off without your sorry ass making more CO2 or farting and thinking it smells good...
It would make TV worth watching again.
"Watch the families sacrifice themselves to Gaia.
First up is Norbert Finkelstien and family and Norbert's going for...THE CHAINSAW...(applause). Norbert's a trooper and he's not leaving anything to chance."
Hahaha, it's amazing how defensive humans get when you tell them not to breed. Talk about hitting a raw nerve. It won't make any difference Wong, kids or no kids, we have screwed the pooch. I know, tell parents that life ain't going to be very rosy for their children and they get very upset.
Agar plate - bacetria colony
Earth - human beings
Tell me what the difference is faggot.
I will tell you what the difference is. An overgrown Agar plate is completely covered by bacteria in an enclosed system, with no natural processes to absorbb and , or convert waste.
The entire human population on the surface of the earth is but a tiny speck. The entire population could fit inside one medium volcano , leaving the entire planet empty of humanity.
All we need is enough freedom to allow the smart ones to figure out how to get us the stuff we need and take care of the waste in a smart way.
Prosperity , if allowed to happen, crashes population.
Malthusians are as much a plague as socialists, and basically overlapping in philosophy.
Statism is the biggest enemy of human progress and the salvation of the planet
The geometrical space humans occupy has got not a thing to do with the problem. "All we need is enough freedom to allow the smart ones to figure out", now that is a classic statement if I have ever heard one.
Once upon a time the Greenies used to chain themselves to the rail road tracks transporting nuclear waste. They were the smart ones and they were shunned by society. My own parents would snort and scoff in their direction. They will live, if they are unlucky, to see the short-sightedness of their views.
We will either all become greenies or will die a very slow and miserable death as the earth becomes a toxic fucking waste. Once the nuclear genie is out of the bottle you will come to realise just how closed a system the earth really is.
Astroid, I took the bait and did not "BREED" - years later its not a happy place to be in. I have been duped out of my greatest prize in life but I did the socially accepted "thing" for the socially accepted "reasons" and none of them correspond to real life.
Yes I have donated and volunteered at great personal expense to preserve and care for wildlife in several nations; earth is only a closed system when multinationals can control all resources and NGO's for their own purposes. And they do operate and donate for their own purposes - perhaps I have seen too much
Better off having a couple of kids and raising them the right way, to have a good impact and make the world a better place.
There are overpopulated shitholes and there are overpopulated shitholes that are becoming even more overpopulated and shithole-like (with fecundity rates above 6). Maybe those places could do with some population reduction.
That's interesting, I spend most of my time rescuing and caring for native animals as well.
Good on you you mate, people like you make this world a better place.
I suspect you won't regret your decision within the next 20-30 years. To witness a parent losing a child is probably one of the most heart wrenching things one can see on this earth. We are so fucked mate when you start looking at what we have done to this planet. Fukushima is the start of the end. Nothing will ever stop it, it will remain uncontained. There are many more reactors like it near the ocean, on fault lines, just waiting for the same fate.
We have boxed ourselves into a corner because once a nuclear chain reaction is started you have comitted yourself for basically ever (several generations) of containing that reaction. There will be another Fukushima, then another, then another. At some critical point reactors will have to be abandoned because of fallout from other reactors.
It is inevitable and the sun rises in the east. We just choose to ignore it.
Personally, I applaud your lack of Children, you clearly aren't mommy or daddy material.
First thing you've said Seek, that I wholeheartedly agree with.
For you, tell me, what conditions on earth would need to be present before you'd say enough is enough, we're done with population growth and it would be in everyones interest including the plants and animals and existing children to just stop.
There are no conditions are there?
It's all in the hands of god isn't it?
The true irony is that you would claim I am cold hearted, possibly even evil due to my attitude towards population growth and children. Yet you as a die hard christian actually covet the predictions of revelation chapter 8, of sky turning to fire and the sea to blood. Don't kid yourself Seek, if this happens as you so desperately hope your children will suffer a fear and horror that I would not wish on my worst enemy.
So who is it that is really cold-hearted?
We have the ability to prevent untold suffering by consciously reducing the number of children we have, for the greater good. This seems just too much to ask of a human being. We collectively, all of us, deserve what's in store and it won't be bloody angels and trumpets.
The problem is that Humans, like any other species, are genetically hard wired to reproduce.
It would be like telling the teenager not to have sex. Good luck.
All of the cognitive teaching will not even come into the picture.
Even if they were raised in the Church, as God Fearing Christians, it may slow the process down...for a little while...until the Biological urges overwhelm the Cognitive and Moral Mind.
Very few can master their sexual urges. Temptation overwhelms Rational and Moral Thought.
Isaac Newton believed his greatest achievement in his life was that he died a virgin. Of course he had an elevated IQ and was also a very religious man whom studied the Bible for DECADES. Yes he was exceptional.
As I Corinthians 7:9 states "But if they cannot control themselves then they should marry for it is better to marry than to burn."
Let me tell you a little secret. That word "marry" is translated from a variant of the Greek Word "Gamizo".
Gamete, the SEX CELL, is derived from the same root, "GAM"
Two thousand years ago marriages were quite different than they are today. There is no "Marriage Ceremony" in the scriptures. There were no "Official Marriages".
That word Gamizo, properly translated in Koine Greek, the VULGAR Greek, that word means FUCK.
(Of course this is how you get kicked out of Church. As my elderly Greek Hostess said, the Holy Scriptures is a "bad book".)
Well that's the crux of the issue Tall Tom, we're basically animals (you might not agree). This is why I keep making the comparison to the bacteria colony in an agar plate. The bacteria is non thinking and just do what bacteria do until they destroy their environment.
I don't think succumbing to sexual urges is the problem, it's succumbing to sexual urges and not using contraceptives. We may differ of course on the morals and ethics of sex whether married or not. I don't have any objection, just object to an ever growing population.
What beats me is the absolute refusal by most people to acknowledge a problem. I mean, how much of the earths ecocsystem do we have to destroy before people start sitting up and taking notice? How many of the wild animals and forests of the earth do we need to destroy before people start sitting up and taking notice? Look at the reaction I got on this thread for dare suggesting people stop breeding like bloody rabbits. You'd think I was suggesting that they murder their current children.
It would be intersting to know what life would be like if we were all born sterile and you had to seek medical intervention to be able to have a baby but the procedure was open only to those people free of drug and alcohol abuse. Every single child born would be a result of parents who actively wanted it. I suspect life would be a lot better, that there'd be alot less suffering, alot less abuse.Would never work in practice because who defines what constitutes drug and alcohol abuse. If Obama had a chance he'd restrict the medical procedire to only Democrat voters so he could be president forever.
Your child will cause more planetary havoc than Royals and Rothschild's etc kids?????
Imagine if the Royals and Roths etc were born sterile.
Radical leftists praying to Mother Earth is pagen cultism.
Hey, if you are christian I wouldn't knock pagans. They did after all give you christmas and easter and I don't, by the way, remember christians thanking them either.
I am a Christian. I do not celebrate Christmas or Ishtar.
Christ was the Firstborn Lamb in Spring. The flocks and Shepards were in the fields...the stalls were empty...and so were the mangers that fed the Sheep grain.
Christmas is a lie from Hell and it would do many "so called Christians" to actually take some time and read the book...especially in Ancient Hebrew and Ancient Koine Greek.
Serious question TT. How can you be certain the worlds holy books have not been placed on the earth by the devil to confuse and distract humans from the real path to enlightenment which is an internal journey and which cannot be found in the external physical world. Everything you've read in the bible may be a guise by the devil (assuming you believe such a thing exists). Similarly, how can any christian be certain that the true path to enlightenment, the true test placed upon humans by god is to overcome the primordial urge to procreate and to end ones life in solitude but complete harmony with the universe. How can anyone be certain of anything?
Try not to side step the question, it is a serious one.
How can you be sure TPTB in the religious hierarchy wouldnt have removed "controversial" things so as to keep people obedient sheep? Religious persecution is one of the oldest forms of censorship.
Kinda goes hand in hand with the word "denier"...similar depth of basis from which to cast the term...
Persecution in the name of religion is right up there as well...
Serious answer. Using the translation of Gamizo properly...
Read I Corinthians Chapter 7. Instead of reading the word "marriage", as marriage, replace it with the word FUCK. (Thus, for example, marrying would be read as Fucking.)
While Genesis in the Old Testament commanded to be "Fruitful and Multiply" the Old Testament was supplanted by the New Testament in the Christian Faith.
The answer will shock most....including you. You will find yourself in agreement.
The problem with many so called "Christians" is that they do not take the time to read the book in English...which is even less demanding than reading it in the Greek.
You didn't answer the question at all. Come on, give it a go. What if Corinthians and all the other books are the work of the devil and the true path is to be found internally and this is the true purpose of consciousness.
BTB: I thought FUCK stood for Felony Under Carnal Knowledge.
FUCK is one of the first acronyms...I agree. I was under the impression that it meant Fornication Under Consent of the King.
It is not the exact word for the translation. (Translation is difficult task as it is not "word for word".) But the point is that it was the most vulgar (common) meaning for Sexual Intercourse in Greek.
It does not mean "Marriage" as in the institution which was fabricated by the Roman Catholics to extract money from the "faithful". It means the sexual act.
As to your other query that is Gnosticism. I am not a Gnostic.
I believe that the letters are God inspired.
But my musings are God inspired also. (Writing about God is inspirational.) That does not mean that my musings are perfect by any means.
I understand Buddhism and it may very well be that Jesus had some Buddhist influence as there is a 18 year gap in the account of His life. But that philosophy is what the Gnostic concentrated upon and left themselves believeing themselves to be Gods.
My personal belief is that we are not born with the a priori knowledge. Lacking the Knowledge we cannot find ourselves to become enlightened from within.
I reject the idea that the Gospels and Epistles are from the Devil. The reason for the rejection is that I have had Divine Guidance and intervention which was, at first, external...then internal. But that is my faith.
I am pleased that you are seeking. Do yourself a favor and ask for the revelation. Take that first step of Faith and ask that "Invisible Entity" for Him to be revealed. It will happen.
BTW...Put that word, "Fuck" everywhere that "marriage " appears in I Corinthians 7. It agrees with your idea of Population Control.
You know that I understand the problem with the Exponential Function all too well.
Christmas wasn't even a holy Day in the US until the last half of the 1800's.
It is only a Holy "Set aside" day by humans and is not at all Biblical.
There are other habitable homes in our galaxy. Nobody ever got anywhere thinking small.
What a load of horse shit. Our wealth is in our children you idiot! If you wish to commit suicide becuase you want to do the responsible thing, then by all means do so, but as far as your doom and gloom non-sense, it's exactly that, NONSENSE.
The ultimate act of hubris is to think that WE can destroy the earth. We can't even predict when a earthquake is going to hit let alone create a hurricane.
An acolyte of the Church of Climate Change! Pray that the BEFORE and AFTER pictures that your clergy take of glacier is PROOF of your GOD! Do you wonder if YOUR CLIMATE CHANGE GOD speaks to you at night?
FOAD!
The wealth has been in our children since the start of time you dipshit and look at the place. Like to sprout anymore cliche's.
Neither will we destroy the earth but we will destroy the ecosystem required to sustain human life on earth.
All feels good doesn't it. Christ almighty, people are sensitive when you tell them not to have kids. Fuck me. All people have to do is have no more than two kids but even this is too much to ask. People have to have three, four, five, six.
All feels good prior to the last doubling.
When you're right, you're right. And in this case, you're absolutely right. Sad but true. Wow, you touched a nerve with that one. Vitriolic lashing out. We're going to inhabit another galaxy? Dude, we can't even not shit where we eat! WTF are you talking about?
Raw nerve alright. You cannot tell people not to breed. The instinct is strong, so strong in fact it will be our undoing. Peoples emotioms are like hair trigger when it comes to their children. More likely though it is the realisation that I've equated our collective intelligence to a colony of bacetria that just just keeps going until there is nothing left.
All we have to collectively do is limit our children to no more than two but like I said, sex without a rubber just feels too good. The truly sad thing is most adults alive today will probably live long enough to see their children contract cancer. Fucking sad but I fear inevitable.
Fukishima has blown to smithe-fucking-reens and created such an environmental disaster as to be inconceivable still, to us. There are 500 more of these fuckers as the world is careening into a 3rd world war and just because you have kids and the darlings are the future, everything is supposed to be OK. Wake the fuck up.
If WWIII eventuates domestic nuclear reactors will be targetted. Pyschopaths are in control. I cannot help but think that one day in the very near future we will wake to news that will leave us immobilized with fear/terror.
so instead of educating our children to act responsibly in the environment they live in, you would suggest to educate them not to have children instead?
this kind of idiotic mentality is the problem, not the overpopulation per se. get a clue!
You're not listening fuck head. Educate them to REDUCE the number of children they expect to have. Talk about small families and adopting the rest. Is there anything so fucking hard to understand about that. Don't have fucking four, five, six, seven children. Is there anything about that you don't understand. Having too many kids is one of the most irresponsible acts you can possibly take as a human as water resources become scare, energy resources become scare, healthy top soil is under threat, oceans are over fished and polluted.
Do you understand this. It seems just an impossibility to ask people to pare back on the number of humans they bring into this world which confirms my suspicions that we are little more than an unthinking colony of bacteria whose population grows until there is nothing left.
okay, you don't seem to get it.
i'm talking about changing the way of life instead of asking somebody to never to exist (which is a lot to ask). it really seems to be impossible to ask americans (and westerners) to reduce their exuberant lifestyle. you think the solution to this would to be to cull the herd so you could keep consuming most of the world production?
yes, most of the people in the world are useless eaters as our overlords love to put it but they can be educated to be more than sheeple instead of educating them that they are worthless piece of shit that should have never existed in the first place.
to be frank, educating masses is waste of time and effort but if you really want to go down this road then at least educate them to live responsibly in their artificial and natural environment which would have substantially bigger effect than just depopulating earth. it's a simple choice of less sheeple or no sheeple at all.
when people use the bacteria in a small dish as a sample for human life on earth
do they also consider the might and power of empires and MICs to distort resource access and natural life styles and life cycles?
Do they ever consider that the small dish might be contaminated so all "bacteria" including one self is clinging and crowding into a fake 'safe' wall?
Possibly a manufactured wall, one that serves another agenda?
I'm not asking or wishing current humans beings to cease to exist (OK, admittedly there are times when I wish rthe earth was free of human beings). I'm asking that everyone make a conscious effort to have smaller families and then if you want more children, adopt. What you are stating, I understand, we can have all the people we currently have but all we need to do is learn to live within our means. Well that is a good sentiment but people are greedy, by nature.
We've gone too far, way too far and I sort of doubt there is any return now. We know civilisations have collapsed many times in the past due to environmental degredation and I think we are now beyond the point of no return. If we rapidly made a conscious effort to start reducing population growth via smaller families the coming mess will result in less suffering. I fear we are simply incapable of doing this though, look at the reaction I got just on this thread. Logon to enenews.com daily and read the reports of animal population collapses and disease. We are staring right into the abyss. Mark my freaking words, we will wake up one day soon with news that will leave us immobilized with terror.
Just look at the number of nuclear reactors built on active fault lines in the world and you'll soon realise just how reckless, unbelievably, callously reckless we have been. An earthquake tomorrow in the wrong place and many people may think this was a bad world in which to bring children. It takes awhile to process what we've done, there will be long periods of denial, but eventually the simple and brutal reality sets in. We should not have done what we have with nuclear power, it was a careless mistake of historic proportions.
population reduction of hedgetards?
i'm just kidding! ;-)
Hans Rosling - Don't Panic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSGoqw45tKI
Using state-of-the-art 3D graphics and the timing of a stand-up comedian, world-famous statistician Professor Hans Rosling presents a spectacular portrait of our rapidly changing world. With seven billion people already on our planet, we often look to the future with dread, but Rosling's message is surprisingly upbeat. Almost unnoticed, we have actually begun to conquer the problems of rapid population growth and extreme poverty.
Across the world, even in countries like Bangladesh, families of just two children are now the norm - meaning that within a few generations, the population explosion will be over. A smaller proportion of people now live in extreme poverty than ever before in human history and the United Nations has set a target of eradicating it altogether within a few decades. In this as-live studio event, Rosling presents a statistical tour-de-force, including his 'ignorance survey', which demonstrates how British university graduates would be outperformed by chimpanzees in a test of knowledge about developing countries.
Remember when the democrats said the future economy would be dominated by low paying service jobs.
Actually the old line New Deal Democrats voted against NAFTA in '94 especially in the Senate but I won't let facts and actual voting records get in the way of your stupid comment
Why is there all that white space around the text of your post, the snow's suppsoed to be melting.
Not bad....
And indeed it is...
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/images/indicators/snow-cover-exte...
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/grad/graphics/BRWmelt19412009.png
oh cherry tree, oh cherry tree, can you save agw for me?
its gotta suck having your entire backing for your argument rely on your starting point, flake.
I don't think this is what they're shooting for, but articles on Bloomberg are consistently funnier than the Onion in their absurdity and comedic value.
GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT MORE GOVERNMENT.
MORE. MORE. IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
Not exactly the kind of people you would choose to spruce up the ole climate image. Mega tyrants working for the real mega tyrants have a credibility issue.
When they paint a sad face on Gaia, they instantly gain credibility to the Church of Warming Doom.
Clean, earthquakeproof, 4th gen nuclear power is the only way out of this. Atleast for the people who have evolved an immune system for manmade isotopes.
So by 2200, New York will be hotter than Texas?
Gads! Mayor Bloomberg might be forced to reconsider his supersized soda ban!
NYC will be underwater by then, so it will not be any warmer than the ocean surface temperature.
Oh well, God's will
You know this is something to stay away from because it was funded by Robert Rubin and Hank Paulson. The Treasury Secretaries responsible for the greatest wealth transfer from the middle class to the rich. The repeal of Glass-Steagall and the bank bailouts. Bipartisanship at its worst.
You don't get it do you?
These bastards are trying to soothe their conscience by doing the right thing...
It has also been called Your-Come-to-God moment...
Probably made all the easier by them not being in the fossil fuel extraction industry....
Like I said, they are bastards...
"Today’s report was funded by
Hank Paulson, the former head of Goldman Sachs and Treasury Secretary under George W. Bush..."
That's all i need to know. Paulson recklessly leveraged up Goldman Sachs, walked off with 500 million, then EXTORTED 700 BILLION from the tax payers.
HanK PaulsoN is doing the same thing with his global warming alarmism. EXTORTION.
another Maunder Minimum...about 100X more significant than this CO2 "crisis"... mass starvation for starters,
Global warming hysteria, much like religion with it's threat of eternal damnation, is child abuse.
Can always count on downvotes from the theists.
(circa 2009) Thanksgiving prayer at Goldman Sachs Board meeting in office of CEO Lloyd Blankfein, based on unconfirmed transcript from an unreliable source:
"Thank Hank Paulson, our Godfather, for killing our competitors Bear Stearns and Lehman, for knee capping Merrill Lynch, for saving our behinds from billions of $ of counterparty risk at Fannie, Freddie, and AIG. Thank Hank, truly a family man, for allowing the Goldman Sachs family to control key positions at the U.S. Treasury and to advise him on how best to fleece the taxpayers. In these dire times, when even we Masters of the Universe may be exposed and toppled, let us thank Hank for giving us every chance to survive...to scuckle on taxpayers, municipalities, pension funds, and widowers to support our gambling-with-other-peoples-money empire. We kiss your ring, Hank, for giving Goldman Sachs, the company, a $10 billion bonus (TARP) from hard-working taxpayers. Yes, though times are tough, we have a lot to be thankful for at Goldman Sachs."
The Church of Global Warming will accept no blasphemers! You must donate to the government to atone for your unbelief! Your lack of acceptance of the dogma will disappoint the Minister!
Soon the Bourgeoisie will come for the proletariat heretics and then...well, I ran out of prose...I just see a Clockwork Orange re-education moment with eyelids pinned open to hurricane videos...
When the people who keep telling me this is a crisis start acting like it is a crisis, then perhaps I will pay attention. Until then, no fucks will be given.
I thought I had an extra fuck to loan you but inflation ate my fuck.
Sorry.
Is this the exhalation of odour-free colourless plant food that is of concrern?
Or is it of the exhalation of the vapourous form of di-hydro-monoxide? The latter has proven to be mighty dangerous over the millenia.
one wonders?
- Ned
Somebody told me that is was written down in a book that she/he would not use di-hydro-monoxide again. So this time it must be the the plant food. Ban all plant food. Or atleast tax it. Think of the children.
Actually since the Photosynthetic Biological Production Units are extremely inefficient (~2% if I remember correctly) then we need to provide them with incentives...in the form of Government Subsidies of course...to amp up their productivity of Hydrocarbons.
Of course we will need more taxes from the Farm in order to provide the incentives.
Deny it or not but West and Central Texas up towards the panhandle is quickly going through 'desertification' faster than anyone in state gov't or at Texas A&M predicted. Cousin who has lived down since the 90s when he was at Ft. Hood outside of Killeen has been stunned by the change in climate since then especially in the hill country around Amarillo.
Hilarious. He sees what he is told he sees.
The temperature did not change during the time that you describe. http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21574461-climate-ma...
This is the problem with propaganda. People actually believe this silly cr*p despite the pesky data, aka Science.
1973: SOYLENT GREEN is released, has 'Climate Experts' from USC vet it for "accuracy." The movie depicts a NYC that is unlivable due to temps above 100F. They HAVE TO EAT THE PEOPLE. The year these predictions were "accurately" predicting? 2020. Winter 2014: So cold it supposedly sends US into -3% recession in 1st Q.
These are the pesky facts.
But hey, your f*ckin cousin is the expert.
Sure, because a colder US winter is all we think about when talking about global climate change, right? Did you miss the "global" part? And the movie Soylent Green is wrong so the entire climate science community is wrong? Don't quit your day job to become either a climate scientist or anyone would needs to put together a logical argument.
Climate is about more than just temperature. Like rainfall patterns. In this case, I suspect it has more to do with solar and ocean cycles than carbon dioxide, though.
What does Soylent Green, a sensationalist Hollywood movie from the 70s based on a fictitional script, have anything to remotely do with this and I know this may be hard to believe but science isn't static either. Is you mind that deluded that you think a Hollywood movie has anything to do with science? Ugh.
What the article from the Economist is saying if you actually read it is that global temperatures are going to increase in the 21st century and that even at the low range it will be on average by 1 C and likely higher. It is saying that we haven't observed real temperature increases the past 15 years because our understanding of carbon sinks is insufficient but if you continue to increase ppm of CO2 and other greenhouse gases the planet will continue to increase in temp. Only the dumbest of the dumb deny that.
That is a problem already and if you increase it by 2-3 C and get closer to 3 C most of the current grain belts of production (especially those around closer to the equator in Asia and Africa) will fail completely or produce dramatically lower yields.
Yes, all Texans believe what the aggies and the govt. say...
Fuck off, I've been here since the 80's and the stuff I remember is cycles of nature. The upcoming cycle seems to be flooding like 97-98.
Did you know that when an aggie moves to OK the IQ of both states goes up?
Anyone ever visit the Texas a&m forestry office just north of Fort Stockton (no shit) ?
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
4 to 8 inch deluges of rain from DFW to San Angelo this spring and summer.
Oh puleeze. Right now I'm sitting in a hotel in the desert of New Mexico after driving all day on 25 and then 40 toward Arizona.
I've never seen NM so lush and green. Puddles are ubiquitous. Fields of ground-hugging, lavendar flowers make hills look slightly purple. Furthermore, I've never seen so many baby antelope hurrying after their mothers on the plains.
I left Colorado this morning, btw. That's my home. There, I have not turned the sprinklers on this year. My plants haven't looked so good ... ever.
I also had a house in AZ, until recently. I had a rain gauge in the yard and noticed that the evening news gave rain totals that didn't correspond to my gauge. Consistenly, the news said less rain was falling than did. So I asked around ... did others have gauges? They did. And, like me, they noticed that their personal rain gauges read much higher (about 30 percent, on average) than the newscaster claimed.
Moonsoon season cranking up earlier this year?
The American Pioneers called the great Plains a desert. Just about anywhere west of Abelene, Austin, and San Antonio down the the Mex border is a semi arid climate. That is thousands of years of climate. Once you travel to Lubbock on down to El Paso, their climate in classified as arid. Oh, btw, the Texas Hill Country is hundreds of miles south of Amarillio which is in the northern panhandle. West of Austin down to San Antonio is Hill Country.
Another Internet genius. Just go look at the amount of rain and total precipatation in Texas or the average Jan temp and average July temp since '70. When rain comes in July and August to the Panhandle, it has has been less frequently and the amount of steady rain vs downpour has greatly increased. Average Jan temp is higher and average July temp has increased over 2 F on average.
Been a big problem here where I live in PA too. I garden a lot and the other day we had a thunderstorm that dumped over an 1-inch of rain in less than 10 minutes. That's very extreme and a flash flood event. It also recks havok on my garden and young plants too. Those types of rain events are becoming more and more frequent here.
a good enviromentalist kills himself...and his dogs too
Your right. Things like the Clean Air and Clean Water acts are entirely silly and so is the EPA. We should allow the free market to determine what happens with negative externalities like pollution and local source contamination.
KInd of scared by the comments here. A pretty high ignorance level and a refusal to accept that the lifestyeles we live are non sustainable. Sorry folks that is the truth. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out and maybe that is why the the overwhelming majority of scientists are on boards with the conclusions. ONly the nut bars who believe in unlimited exponential growth are left. A very sad lot they are. Too bad so many hang out here.
I agree. What's more disturbing is that none of these people are intelligent enough to actually think about the situation clearly. 97% of scientific research in the last 2 years claims that climate change (warming) is real and getting worse. What's more statistically probable, 97% of scientists are wrong or these people are conspiracy theory nutjobs? These are multiple countries, organizations, and groups that go way outside the boundaries of the U.S. Furthermore, NONE of the big corporations have it in their best interests to stop using fossil fuels as that is THEE driver of all economic growth.
Goldman Sachs and Hank Paulson are shitheads. I agree. And this probably is propaganda of some sorts where they have vested interests. That being said, climate change is real and it's likely going to lead to our extinction if the temperature nears a permanent 2 degree rise. We're at like .7 now and rapidly getting worse with new CO2 levels being broken annually.
I don't necessarily share your opinions, but I appreciate your science...
Well said....
Chesapeake Energy slipped 30 million dollars to the Sierra Club to help fund their campaign against coal. I seriously doubt there was an altruistic motivation for the largess. Especially, since natural gas is the cited replacement for coal. It'll bankrupt americans if successful
And why are you surprised when anyone does this?
If CHK spending $30 million on "lobbying and advertising" would payoff on their bottom line then it sounds exactly like what any and every multi-billion dollar corporation would do...
And have done, and continue to do...
How much do you you think is spent by "industry councils" nowadays?
It shows that money can buy anyone, and the most allegedly environmentally concerned will take money from the same fossil fuel industry to cripple the standard of living first with coal, and next natural gas.
Time’s Bryan Walsh writes in the complete exposé that Michael Brune ended the relationship when he became executive director in 2010: