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The Chaos In Iraq Is By DESIGN
Neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz planned regime change in Iraq more than 20 years ago … in 1991.
But the goal wasn’t just regime change (or oil). The goal was to break up the country, and to do away with the sovereignty of Iraq as a separate nation.
The Guardian noted in 2003:
President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt predicted devastating consequences for the Middle East if Iraq is attacked. “We fear a state of disorder and chaos may prevail in the region,” he said.
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They are probably still splitting their sides with laughter in the Pentagon. But Mr Mubarak and the [Pentagon] hawks do agree on one thing: war with Iraq could spell disaster for several regimes in the Middle East. Mr Mubarak believes that would be bad. The hawks, though, believe it would be good.
For the hawks, disorder and chaos sweeping through the region would not be an unfortunate side-effect of war with Iraq, but a sign that everything is going according to plan.
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The “skittles theory” of the Middle East – that one ball aimed at Iraq can knock down several regimes – has been around for some time on the wilder fringes of politics but has come to the fore in the United States on the back of the “war against terrorism”.
Its roots can be traced, at least in part, to a paper published in 1996 by an Israeli thinktank, the Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies. Entitled “A clean break: a new strategy for securing the realm”, it was intended as a political blueprint for the incoming government of Binyamin Netanyahu. As the title indicates, it advised the right-wing Mr Netanyahu to make a complete break with the past by adopting a strategy “based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism …”
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The paper set out a plan by which Israel would “shape its strategic environment”, beginning with the removal of Saddam Hussein and the installation of a Hashemite monarchy in Baghdad.
With Saddam out of the way and Iraq thus brought under Jordanian Hashemite influence, Jordan and Turkey would form an axis along with Israel to weaken and “roll back” Syria. Jordan, it suggested, could also sort out Lebanon by “weaning” the Shia Muslim population away from Syria and Iran, and re-establishing their former ties with the Shia in the new Hashemite kingdom of Iraq. “Israel will not only contain its foes; it will transcend them”, the paper concluded.
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The leader of the “prominent opinion makers” who wrote it was Richard Perle – now chairman of the Defence Policy Board at the Pentagon.
Also among the eight-person team was Douglas Feith, a neo-conservative lawyer, who now holds one of the top four posts at the Pentagon as under-secretary of policy.
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Two other opinion-makers in the team were David Wurmser and his wife, Meyrav (see US thinktanks give lessons in foreign policy, August 19). Mrs Wurmser was co-founder of Memri, a Washington-based charity that distributes articles translated from Arabic newspapers portraying Arabs in a bad light. After working with Mr Perle at the American Enterprise Institute, David Wurmser is now at the State Department, as a special assistant to John Bolton, the under-secretary for arms control and international security.
A fifth member of the team was James Colbert, of the Washington-based Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (Jinsa) – a bastion of neo-conservative hawkery whose advisory board was previously graced by Dick Cheney (now US vice-president), John Bolton and Douglas Feith.
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With several of the “Clean Break” paper’s authors now holding key positions in Washington, the plan for Israel to “transcend” its foes by reshaping the Middle East looks a good deal more achievable today than it did in 1996. Americans may even be persuaded to give up their lives to achieve it.
(Before assuming prominent roles in the Bush administration, many of the same people – including Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, John Bolton and others – advocated their imperial views during the Clinton administration via their American think tank, the “Project for a New American Century”.)
Thomas Harrington – professor of Iberian Studies at Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut – writes:
[While there are some good articles on the chaos in Iraq, none of them] consider whether the chaos now enveloping the region might, in fact, be the desired aim of policy planners in Washington and Tel Aviv.
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One of the prime goals of every empire is to foment ongoing internecine conflict in the territories whose resources and/or strategic outposts they covet.
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The most efficient way of sparking such open-ended internecine conflict is to brutally smash the target country’s social matrix and physical infrastructure.
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Ongoing unrest has the additional perk of justifying the maintenance and expansion of the military machine that feeds the financial and political fortunes of the metropolitan elite.
In short … divide and rule is about as close as it gets to a universal recourse the imperial game and that it is, therefore, as important to bear it in mind today as it was in the times of Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, the Spanish Conquistadors and the British Raj.
To those—and I suspect there are still many out there—for whom all this seems too neat or too conspiratorial, I would suggest a careful side-by side reading of:
a) the “Clean Break” manifesto generated by the Jerusalem-based Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS) in 1996
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b) the “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” paper generated by The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) in 2000, a US group with deep personal and institutional links to the aforementioned Israeli think tank, and with the ascension of George Bush Junior to the White House, to the most exclusive sanctums of the US foreign policy apparatus.
To read the cold-blooded imperial reasoning in both of these documents—which speak, in the first case, quite openly of the need to destabilize the region so as to reshape Israel’s “strategic environment” and, in the second of the need to dramatically increase the number of US “forward bases” in the region ….
To do so now, after the US’s systematic destruction of Iraq and Libya—two notably oil-rich countries whose delicate ethnic and religious balances were well known to anyone in or out of government with more than passing interest in history—, and after the its carefully calibrated efforts to generate and maintain murderous and civilization-destroying stalemates in Syria and Egypt (something that is easily substantiated despite our media’s deafening silence on the subject), is downright blood-curdling.
And yet, it seems that for even very well-informed analysts, it is beyond the pale to raise the possibility that foreign policy elites in the US and Israel, like all virtually all the ambitious hegemons before them on the world stage, might have quite coldly and consciously fomented open-ended chaos in order to achieve their overlapping strategic objectives in this part of the world.
Antiwar’s Justin Raimondo notes:
Iraq’s fate was sealed from the moment we invaded: it has no future as a unitary state. As I pointed out again and again in the early days of the conflict, Iraq is fated to split apart into at least three separate states: the Shi’ite areas around Baghdad and to the south, the Sunni regions to the northwest, and the Kurdish enclave which was itching for independence since well before the US invasion. This was the War Party’s real if unexpressed goal from the very beginning: the atomization of Iraq, and indeed the entire Middle East. Their goal, in short, was chaos – and that is precisely what we are seeing today.
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As I put it years ago:
“[T]he actual purpose was to blow the country to smithereens: to atomize it, and crush it, so that it would never rise again.
“When we invaded and occupied Iraq, we didn’t just militarily defeat Iraq’s armed forces – we dismantled their army, and their police force, along with all the other institutions that held the country together. The educational system was destroyed, and not reconstituted. The infrastructure was pulverized, and never restored. Even the physical hallmarks of a civilized society – roads, bridges, electrical plants, water facilities, museums, schools – were bombed out of existence or else left to fall into disrepair. Along with that, the spiritual and psychological infrastructure that enables a society to function – the bonds of trust, allegiance, and custom – was dissolved, leaving Iraqis to fend for themselves in a war of all against all.
“… What we are witnessing in post-Saddam Iraq is the erasure of an entire country. We can say, with confidence: We came, we saw, we atomized.”
Why? This is the question that inevitably arises in the wake of such an analysis: why deliberately destroy an entire country whose people were civilized while our European ancestors were living in trees?
The people who planned, agitated for, and executed this war are the very same people who have advanced Israeli interests – at America’s expense – at every opportunity. In “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm,” a 1996 document prepared by a gaggle of neocons – Perle, Douglas Feith, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was urged to “break out” of Israel’s alleged stagnation and undertake a campaign of “regime change” across the Middle East, targeting Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and eventually Iran. With the exception of Iran – and that one’s still cooking on the back burner – this is precisely what has occurred. In 2003, in the immediate wake of our Pyrrhic “victory” in Iraq, then Prime Minister Ariel Sharon declared to a visiting delegation of American members of Congress that these “rogue states” – Iran, Libya, and Syria – would have to be next on the War Party’s target list.
(Indeed.)
And Michel Chossudovsky points out:
The division of Iraq along sectarian-ethnic lines has been on the drawing board of the Pentagon for more than 10 years.
What is envisaged by Washington is the outright suppression of the Baghdad regime and the institutions of the central government, leading to a process of political fracturing and the elimination of Iraq as a country.
This process of political fracturing in Iraq along sectarian lines will inevitably have an impact on Syria, where the US-NATO sponsored terrorists have in large part been defeated.
Destabilization and political fragmentation in Syria is also contemplated: Washington’s intent is no longer to pursue the narrow objective of “regime change” in Damascus. What is contemplated is the break up of both Iraq and Syria along sectarian-ethnic lines.
The formation of the caliphate may be the first step towards a broader conflict in the Middle East, bearing in mind that Iran is supportive of the al-Maliki government and the US ploy may indeed be to encourage the intervention of Iran.
The proposed re-division of both Iraq and Syria is broadly modeled on that of the Federation of Yugoslavia which was split up into seven “independent states” (Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Macedonia (FYRM), Slovenia, Montenegro, Kosovo).
According to Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, the re division of Iraq into three separate states is part of a broader process of redrawing the Map of the Middle East.
The above map was prepared by Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters. It was published in the Armed Forces Journal in June 2006, Peters is a retired colonel of the U.S. National War Academy. (Map Copyright Lieutenant-Colonel Ralph Peters 2006).
Although the map does not officially reflect Pentagon doctrine, it has been used in a training program at NATO’s Defense College for senior military officers”. (See Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a “New Middle East” By Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, Global Research, November 2006)
Notes: While a senior Bush adviser said that the Iraq war was launched to protect Israel, that is too simplistic an explanation. The architects of foreign policy in both the U.S. and Israel are either literally one and the same – e.g. Richard Perle – or see things identically.
And if you think things are different under the Obama administration, please note that not only are the Neocons back, they never actually left.
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As someone who has been reading George Washington's articles for several years, I think he does exceptionally excellent work. Those who tend to criticize him tend to be ignorant of the background that he has already discussed in detail.
However, the bigger picture that I see is the deeper dilemma that death controls MUST necessarily be the central controls. The history of warfare, for thousands of years, has selected for success to be based on backing up deceits with destruction. Those insights were made clear in the oldest book on The Art of War, which started and ended by stating "success in war is based on deceit" and "spies are the most important soldiers."
There is NOTHING new in the events on 9/11/2001 being inside job, false flag attacks, which were lies, upon which more lies were based, in order to get the war in Iraq going, which was deliberately designed to create chaos there. However, one can question how much bigger was that criminally insane plan, and how badly out of control could that criminally insane plan go?
The deeper issues are that there are chronic political problems inherent in the nature of human life, which must be resolved somehow. The expedient sets of solutions developed through the history of Neolithic Civilizations have been "human farming," whereby a tiny minority, who specialized in being dishonest and backing that up with violence, thereby controlled the vast majority, including controlled most of their opposition as well.
However, the deeper issues are how could we possibly do better "human farming?" At the present time, there are only practically infinite tunnels of deceits controlling society, despite there having developed weapons of mass destruction and mass surveillance which are trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history. In that context, better research to attempt to penetrate behind the layers of deceits, which were DESIGNED to create chaos in Iraq, etc., still does not come within light years of the deeper nature of the problems that the human species faces.
The basic problem is the social pyramid structure of Neolithic Civilization itself. Not by accident, the covert wars between the dominant organized criminal gangs, that emerged out of that history, are runaway criminal insanities destroying each other, as well as effecting everyone else with their overflowing criminal insanities. (I.e., Zionists destroying Islamists, and vice versa.)
The problem that I perceive is that they are ALL CRIMINALLY INSANE. The practically impossible theoretical solutions that I propose are we should develop a Translithic Civilization, which enables us to operate death controls that have gone through enough profound paradigm shifts, in the form of intellectual scientific revolutions, so that we might be able to adapt to and survive the development of weapons of mass destruction and mass surveillance. However, I recognize that appears laughable in the current context, which is that the deceits are almost totally dominate (in the ways that the lies about 9/11, and subsequent lies, were able to get the war in Iraq going and created the resulting chaos by design), while most of opposition then only tends to attempt to reveal more of the truth about those deceits, but does not work through the theoretical problems of how to operate better systems of death controls, IF, by some series of political miracles, we did not continue to be inside of the current situations where the actual death controls are being set up by the maximum possible deceits, which preclude the possibilities of negotiating any better evolutionary ecologies with respect to the chronic political problems.
Those issues then spread throughout all the other places where the triumphant application of the methods of organized crime has controlled the political processes, to create integrated systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, such as that the financial systems are government enforced bankster frauds, wherein the same pyramidion people can be observed near the integrated top of the overall social pyramid systems, that have been operating their basic systems of debt slavery, backed by wars based on deceits, which have run away to generate numbers that are debt insanities, which are provoking more death insanities, in vicious spirals of out of control criminal insanities, due to the basic paradoxical problem of the short-term success of controlling civilization with Huge Lies driving that civilization to overall become more and more criminally insane!
Inside that context, the only theoretically possible better realistic solutions would have to be better death controls, to back up better debt controls. However, obviously, the current situation is that the actual murder/money systems operate through the triumphs of the deceits and frauds that run rampant through the social pyramid systems of Neolithic Civilizations, which have selected for the previously best organized gangs of criminally insane people, (such as the Zionists and Islamists, who specialized in privatizing God) to be destroying each other, while everyone else is being drawn in past the event horizon of that social black hole of apparently infinite tunnels of deceits, backed by destruction.
Thank you for responding, and so quickly! I welcome a dialogue with you. Your response brings to the surface some key issues.
You speak of "state-sponsored terror", not, I note, "terrorism". Your view of "3 allied states were involved" implies a world view -- subject to your clarification! -- that has "states" acting as "persons", much like the definition of "corporations" in the US(I). Perhaps you would support getting rid of nation states altogether. Call it a New World Order? Please respond. I think that's a very important question. For example, would you support an amalgamation of Canada, Mexico, and the US? A North American Union? Is so, why? If not, how come? Aren't nation states so disorderly thjat we should have some planetary-wide control?
If you count as one "state" the (former) USofA, whatever that was, then I disagree. I did not consent to whatever went down on 9-11, no one I know consented or even knew what was coming -- though someone in the know put a wonderfully prescient graphic on The Simpson's show, as you yourself may know, but you have not addressed pre-knowledge of 9-11, have you, GW? Perhaps you think Veteranstoday.com and Christopher Bollyn (www.bollyn.com) did that job so sufficiently that you need not address those issues, or even cite VT or Mr. Bollyn's work, "Solving 9-11" books.
"States" are conceptual constructs, NOT people, not even collectives of people, not persons, not even human beings. This "blame game" on states seems a beautifully arranged bouquet designed for diversion, if not outright deception. No, "states" were not primarily responsible for 9-11. Certain human beings and their organizations were, however. Perhaps you could address the findings of Christopher Bollyn -- especially the WHO of 9-11, if not the HOW. (As an aside, the very vocal Devvy Kidd does not.) VT does a credible job on the HOW of 9-11, having nuclear experts, apparently, to advise and guide.
I also take issue with the notion of "governments" and their involvement. How about the emergent and integrated combo of corpses and govs? Fascism just one appellation. TPTB have their influence throughout the world, not through governments, through corporations! And the UN, and NGOs!! Can you speak to this?
Thank you for responding to my posting. I feel honored. Lambasting ahead, I suppose!
Alan
Alanalda,
I have written extensively on foreknowledge. See, for example:
Personally, I don't believe nukes were used. (A debate on this would likely bore the pants off of ZH readers.)
Yes, you are right: Not nations, but rogue elements within governments/private corps.
Your other questions are philosophical ...
Thank you for responding, GW [6-26-14, 1909 4900108] -- tracking our correspondence on ZH is a bit more laborious than done by the NSA, CIA, FBI, whichever -- and channelled happily to Israeli companies, which just may be in bed, or league, with the "government" there. Funded in part by yours truly, I uinderstand.
1) 9-11 was not only FORESEEABLE, it was PREDICTED, ANTICIPATED, and filmed by a group of Israelis (as described) dancing as they filmed the destruction of Mr. Silverstain's [sic] leased and grandly insured towers. The BBC, to their everlating credit, miscalled the collapse of WTC7, and virtually no one talks about the crater in the center of what was another WTC building that, it is said, housed gold in its undergound floors until one day before 9-11. Yes, I agree, plan it, then foresee it!
2) If you espouse, believe in, or otherwise concur with the "official government conspiracy theory", which includes the planes did it, then you have failed publicly a litmus test I think you fail in the slant you give to 9-11 and other issues through your web posting. Nonetheless, as does Michel Chossudovsky, you bring good info to light, and I find you worth reading.
I very much appreciate your willingness to have dialogue, in public (hey, NSA!! get a load of this!!), and I hope you continue to engage these topics openly.
Thanks! Alananda (would I wish to be Alan Alda!) (see your salutation to me!)
It is possible that TBTB are no longer in control. It is most likely that TBTB have diferent agendas from each other, and now squirls are grabbing nuts in the dark with no long term vision.
Conversely, one can posit that tptb know EXACTLY what they're doing. A lot of massively financed consideration goes into managing the middle east. If events dont make any military sense whatsoever, for example seemingly dumbfuck intelligence dropping the ball and rolling out the red carpet for isis to dance into iraq, i dont think thats pragmatism or the will of the american people, nor is it incompetence, but design at work. Giving up iraq makes no sense, especially in light of the tremendous fiscal, emotional, and constitutional sacrifices endured by americans. To some degree, obozo may be out of the loop because he isnt an erudite neocon by definition. Others are pulling strings here.
Wheres nudelman and her neocon jew husband's influence in this crock of shit? Dont tell me she's still passing out chocolate chip cookies to ukraine troops, the chips donated by willy wonkberg poroshenko, of course.
"Giving up iraq makes no sense"
They haven't given up Iraq. They put on a TV parade with some guys in humvees in scary black uniforms which has bounced the US into Iraq 3.0.
Nice start GW, but you are still not seeing the (possible) forest for the trees.
If anything, this is a scheme to make sure the Islamic world never speaks in one voice. Divide and suppress - conquering mostly not needed.
Iraq, as a whole or in parts,is just a pawn on that board.
The "WAR ON Terror-ism" is the perfect war, for it has no particular face, which means any face, like yours & mine, can be deemed a terrorist based on a psychopathic ideology.
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It allows for destruction of any and all forms of governments and strips all limited liberties from those who are under the influence and control of Satan & his minions. Glad my citizenship in not in the U.S. nor any country.
The Latest Psychopath Reveal: Cheney Warns on Terrorism Far Worse than 9/11.
http://winteractionables.com/?p=12972#more-12972
Yeah, russwinter, as most of the comments above indicated, my research into the events on 9/11/2001 convinced me that Zionists so totally dominated the American government that there was practically no difference between them. The methods of organized crime were able to take control over the political processes in the USA, and everything has been automatically getting worse, faster ... Meanwhile, I am not aware of any practical way to prevent the methods of organized crime from dominating politics, to result in those becoming runaway criminal insanities, amplified trillions of times by advances in technologies!
I find all of this to be horribly fascinating. After one begins to learn about this, then everything involved becomes ever more horribly fascinating, since it does become quite reasonable to expect that there WILL be false flag nuclear weapons attacks on American cities, which will finish the process of destroying whatever little there is left of the American democratic republic.
It is hard to imagine what the next BIGGER inside job, false flag attack on the USA is going to be, and how that will change things even more than 9/11 did. There is no other political symbol that was more spectacular than 9/11, so far. However, it is quite reasonable to expect that more events, much worse, are being planned, and will be carried out. After all, the people who actually did 9/11 have achieved all their real goals, while no more 9/11 Truth made any significant difference to that, so far ...
That is why that prediction Dick Cheney recently made is so serious, as that was confirmed in another link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cheney-predicts-u-s-face-deadly-nuclear-attack-article-1.1842931
Former Vice President Dick Cheney predicts U.S. will face deadly, nuclear attack within decade
The covert circles of people that Cheney operated within are surely the kinds of people that could pull off false flag nuclear attacks against cities in the USA. As many other people have previously discussed, false flag attacks with atomic weapons against cities in the USA are the kind of thing one would expect that "next 9/11" to be. If that happens, that will surely cancel out what little is left of the remaining fake "democracy." Step by step, the ruling classes getting away with assassinations, then mass murderers, then bigger and bigger mass murders, appears to be the actual path we are on, since nothing is stopping that from happening, since more 9/11 Truth etc., has never made any significant difference to the overall success of 9/11 achieving its goals, as a classic inside job, false flag attack.
I REPEAT my favourite metaphors:
The overall systems are metaphorically dominated by Vicious Wolves, who are feeding Wild Dogs. Meanwhile, most of the American military are more Domesticated Dogs, that seem unable to prevent themselves from being abused and misused, since the overwhelming vast majority of the American People have become Zombie Sheeple.
The basic system is Vicious Wolves controlling the Zombie Sheeple, while those Vicious Wolves deliberately feed some of the Wild Dogs, inside of the overall strategy to control those Zombie Sheeple. Since almost all the opposition to that are Black Sheeple, who advocate everyone should be better Sheeple, as the "solutions" to those runaway problems of the world being controlled by a criminally insane agenda, I see no way to doubt that things are going to continue "going from bad to worse!"
There is nothing that says that the series of short-term successes of controlling the world with deceits backed by destruction has to stay within the realm of rationality. Instead, in my view, it is guaranteed that the world thus controlled by criminally insane people MUST end up producing criminally insane futures. Technologies becoming trillions of times more powerful have amplified that depravity by many orders of magnitude, but otherwise not changed that tragic trajectory, that American foreign policy is conducted by political puppets, whose strings are being pulled by criminally insane puppet masters. In that context, it is probably not possible for ordinary people to fully imagine how much worse those criminal insanities are going to become!
It is not like any of the alternative Wild Dogs are any better than the current ruling classes of Vicious Wolves. Furthermore, there are no apparently practical political solutions, given that the vast majority of people ALREADY ARE Zombie Sheeple, who are misled by the controlled opposition Black Sheeple regarding what the "solutions" should be. That entire situation is a recipe for runaway criminal insanities to continue to "control" the world. However, that kind of "control" is practically guaranteed to continue to become more and more insane, and therefore, to spin more and more out of control ...
Just like more radical truth about the "war on drugs" never made any difference to that war, while most of those in the controlled opposition continue to operate through the same frame of reference as the bullshit about that war also did, more radical truth about the "war on terror" never made any significant difference, while most of the public opposition is controlled to stay within the same frame of reference. THEREFORE, THE MADNESS IS GROWING AND GROWING AND GROWING!!!
Personally, I am deeply stuck in the rut of being horribly fascinated by watching these things happen, while waiting to see how much more criminally insane they are going to become. Often, I WISH that I had never bothered to learn about more 9/11 Truth, because the more I learned, the worse it got, which made that become horribly fascinating, since there is nothing whatsoever that I am aware of being able to do that could actually change the ways that the world is being controlled by deceits, backed by destruction, automatically getting more criminally insane every day!
There is NO DOUBT that "The Chaos in Iraq is By DESIGN." That DESIGN includes destroying the American economy, and what is left of the American democratic republic. All of those genocidal wars started by deceits are surely going to eventually become democidal martial law in North America, because as above, so below, and as without, so within. The pattern of politics dominated by the successful application of the methods of organized crime has become a horribly fascinating runaway criminal insanity. Therefore, one is stuck in the rut of realizing how important these things are, while the more one learns, the worse they get, which makes them even more important to learn about, but then again only makes learning more about that make them get worse still ... in never-ending personal vicious spirals ... which matches the greater never-ending political vicious spirals!
-- Radical Marijuana
I feel like I've been living in the same mindset as you for the past decade - and it's not PTSD, despite having watched the towers fall in person. It is hard for me to focus on my job, life in general and future planning with the crazy shit that has been going on and which promises to end in a very, very bad way.
The facts, as I firmly believe them to be, are clear:
1) Our fascist leadership is a coupling of the organized criminals running banks and other big businesses with the organized criminals in government and it will lead to a horrific end.
2) 9/11 was just one of many false flags. They have touched us at every level and locale and forced the majority of Americans to believe most if not all of these attacks.
3) The CIA, Mossad and NSA are essentially one and the same. All other government office bow to them, and HUD is just one of the water carrying agencies that gets to return political gifts to the donors throughout the US.
4) When we hire Israeli companies to hold the data obtained by the NSA - does anything else need to be added to prove the level of intercourse between the two governments?
5) When people say the Israelis didn't warn us about 9/11, it's the same as saying Bush and Cheney didn't either. It's kinda like the Russians warning us about Tsarneav (sic) in the Boston Bombing. Why did we ignore them? Well, probably because we were using the kids. How else did 3 other kids associated with them end up shot and killed, while being held by the FBI down in Florida? Too bizarre - and just the tip of the iceberg.
6) We are being disarmed, but the government has bought many billion bullets?!?
7) Just today I read that a SWAT team in the the northeast of the US is refusing to answer FOI requests as they are a private company. Yes, more fucked up stuff every day.
8) Prepping just seems insane when living in the center of the largest metropolis in the U.S., and being married with many children it makes moving impossible. Nobody in my family wants to move, much less grow and can veggies, save enough gold and silver, and prepare the dozens of other things that will be necessary when the shit hits.
IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP - ACCUSE PUBLIC OFFICIALS - MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE IN OUR OWN WAYS. There doesn't seem to be any other choice. If we started by shooting out every single traffic camera and ended up by making citizens arrests on public officials, would we be wrong?
In the mean time, GOOD PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT HAVE TO START UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION, NO MATTER THE COST. God Bless Eric Snowden. If you are in his shoes, take out your bosses by whatever manner necessary, make all IRS and government e-mails disappear for taxpayers, etc. Make things change. The end will come for both sides.
How much better off would North Korea be today if someone in a room with Lil-Kim's grandfather had put a bullet in the guy 50 years ago? What about his father? What about him? How do you end the madness? People have to step up and we outnumber ever person in political office several 100 to 1.
If the government says it can kill American Citizens without a trial, wouldn't it follow that the reverse is true? We elect the government to make decisions for us. As such, we must be allowed to make even more important decisions for ourselves. None can be more important than to rampage and replace those destroying our world. I THINK OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED TODAY, 2014, AS BEING THE TIME A NEW GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE INSTALLED FOR THE EXISTING ONE TO FALL.
Just think - Lois Lehrner. Everyone screams at her, but nobody has done anything to her or anyone else, from either side of the aisle. They know they are all criminals and thy area all in on it. Lost e-mails from exact dates requested - RUFKM?
What to do, what to do? Clearly, do anything but break the laws.
The bomb will be blamed on Iran. TPTB have been laying the groundwork for years. Both BHO and Cheney have both talked about it, more than once.
Highly probable, daveO!
The U.S. had 500,000 troops in Desert Storm in 1991. Bush Sr. could have easily removed Saddam then and there and even divided Iraq into Sunni, Kurd and Shiite states.
When Bush Jr. went in, he could have divided Iraq into separate states, yet he did not.
Obama campaigned on getting the troops out of Iraq, which i doubt had anything to do with any master plan to destablize Iraq and break it up into separate elements.
The U.S. had 500,000 troops in Desert Storm in 1991. Bush Sr. could have easily removed Saddam then and there and even divided Iraq into Sunni, Kurd and Shiite states.
When Bush Jr. went in, he could have divided Iraq into separate states, yet he did not.
Obama campaigned on getting the troops out of Iraq, which i doubt had anything to do with any master plan to destablize Iraq and break it up into separate elements.
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Where does the easily part come from?
A simple glance at the map shows that reworking the area would screw many countries, some of them being allies with 'americans'.
'Americans' are duplicitous and usually follow the same protocol of operations. They look to bring in a point of no return after which things are forced to be accepted.
Just taking a look at the Kurds' situation shows that 'americans' want to reach the point of no return when the Turks are forced to concede part of their territory in order to allow the kurd state to be.
Bush separating the Iraqi part would not have achieved that. On the contrary, it would have opened a door for Turkey to expand into the newly released territory on ground of fighting terrorism. It would have achieved an opposite situation.
In this situation, 'americans' are looking for the actors on the ground to play the act 'americans' are writting. They want to reach a point when they are in a mere seat providing the solution: separation along ethnic lines.
The separation along ethnic lines meme is one to satisfy the 'american' domestic demand of it. It wont settle things in the area. 'Americans' do not care about that, they are not looking for peace in the area. 'Americans' are projecting their fantasy as they've been doing for centuries now.
USSR was still around.
for fuck's sake.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...
http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/24-06-2014/127887-israel_bet...
@moneybots
"master plan to destablize Iraq and break it up into separate elements."
Quite. Plan A was attacking seven countries in five years ending with Iran but that plan got bogged down in Iraq which would mean if this is a plan (rather than a screwup from arming jihadists in Syria) it would be Plan B.
After Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan, people still believe we are capable of elaborate 20-year conspiracies to re-draw maps which we drew in the first place after WWI and WWII. Our history of abject failure along these lines is not considered dispositive evidence.
Meanwhile, the one "conspiracy" that has been successfully carried out by the Authorities, in broad daylight no less, is the debasement of our currency.
I leave it to the ZH audience to decide which "conspiracy" threatens our freedom more. Iraq is a long way away from Main Street, where your savings and checking accounts are devoured slowly by fiat money mice.
Daniel Ellsberg: “Secrets … Can Be Kept Reliably … For Decades … Even Though They Are Known to THOUSANDS of Insiders”
George: I love your work and I appreciate the courage it takes for you to perform it.
My point is simply that there is not always some "grand design" the "Insiders" are pursuing. Half the time, they don't know what the hell is going on either, just like everyone else.
Ho Chi Minh was at the Paris (1920) Peace Conference. Why wasn't he co-opted then if it was so obvious what would happen later?
Saddam Hussein was tolerated after the assassination of Iraq's king. Why wasn't he dealt with then?
We were helping the Mujjaheddin (early Taliban) in Afghanistan when the USSR was occupying. Too bad we didn't have the "all-seeing eye" then, right?
I don't doubt that there are conspiracies. I question how many succeed and how far-seeing the conspirators are. The fruits of our f***ed-up conspiracies are all around us. And the fruits of our ignorance surround us too.
Every now and then, you can catch these guys in a moment of candor, which is to say, ignorance. I was at the first dinner Ben Bernanke attended for a broad, public Wall Street audience during the crisis. In response to a question, he half-jokingly admitted that he didn't have any idea what all the subprime-mortgage CDOs were worth and he wished he did.
Conspiracies are real:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/daniel-ellsberg-%e2%80%9csecrets-can-be-kept-reliably-for-decades-%e2%80%a6-even-though-they-are-known-to-thousands-of-insiders%e2%80%9d.html
How many hundreds of thousands have worked at the NSA over the years?
Yet only ONE - Ed Snowden - has ever exposed what the NSA is up to
Pay them well -- and punish them hard --- and you can ensure your secrets will be kept
sure, they are called conspiracy "theories" because the bought off corporate press will never tell the sheeple the truth. and if CNN doesn't report it as fact, it didn't happen, right?
Control of the media makes the difference between a “conspiracy theorist” and a “talented writer”, or between “the next probable President” and “the crackpot leader of an obscure political party”.
Here's a golden oldie that never gets old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmfZkPvq9EY
...which proves what exactly?
I'm looking forward to Mutually Assured Destruction, this movie is too long and is just like all the other horror films; only the "special effects" are better. Man is evolving, NOT!
In Ukraine it's also by design.
Secretary Kerry has just announced that Russia has "hours to act" to deescalate the situation by backing the "separatists" and giving back Crimea or else...
Or else what?...
http://thetruthshallsetyoufree.net/2014/06/26/ukraine-president-calls-ru...
Current events suggest an Obama foreign policy typified by a tell-tale and unholy trifecta of infiltration, subversion and destruction.
Be it Ukrainian Nazis, Re-branded Al Qaeda/ISIS or a flood of undocumented migrant aliens, there appears to be a shadowy hand enabling and directing these forces about a common purpose: border disintegration and resource degradation. Sovereignty and liberty are under attack by the feudal forces of slavery and terror.
But in reality this is not a foreign policy and it is not uniquely American or imperial. It is instead “domestic” Globalist criminal action. They see the whole planet as their psychotic sandbox.
The beast seems to be no longer hiding. Maybe that’s the change they were talking about.
Where's the draft to support these ridiculous schemes?
The whole thing was financed by "the credit default swaps."
Ooooops.
"Now you get the war but you can't finance it." (Or I should say "we finance it all by blowing up all of Wall Street again.")
I mean this thing never had a chance. You have a 500 man Army executing on this thing. "That Army is costing you 400 billion a year." Those must be some very valuable guys!
Anywho...the Americans are great friends with Islam now. What other choice do we have? We're at war with Russia apparently. "That will require the other 500 guys."
they're going to have kill a lot of people to make that map work. this is obama were talking about, he may use a few neocon gimmicks but he hasn't a clue of how it all works. this is just another giant fuckup, and if US planes don't end up strafing US advisors i will be surprised.
Do you really think that Obama is running the show?
He is a Gay Puppet.
The Government is just a Bread and Circus show.
This part of the show is run by the MIC.
It constantly amazes me that so many people believe Obummer is running the show. All he's interested in is, first and foremost himself (narcissist supreme), then golf, then getting on the down low with Reggie. FFS he thinks there are 57 States and that Austrian is a language.
Maybe if we just bomb the fuck out of it for another ten years and kill a few million more innocent civilians it'll finally be fixed.
Doesn't matter if its fixed. It keeps the price of oil high, and that's all that's important.
broken is the new fixed.
The good 'ol USA has now fucked things up so badly in so many places that we who reside here will be lucky to see the year 2020 without there coming some major calamity right here.
That's funny. Dick Cheney just said the same thing.
The real gem is to break up Turkey and create Kurdistan as a friendly state with Russia. With Ukraine in chaos it seems apt that Turkey should disintegrate. With ISIS threatening Saudi Arabia it will be interesting to see how the US will prop up the sponsors of 9/11. Taliban, and Pakistan A-bomb, and partner with the CIA in Chechnya.
i'm surprised that any near theocracy (Turkey) is tolerated in a Nato country. the western powers want a secular government in that country, and they want to achieve it without consenting to an independent Kurdish nation. so breaking up Turkey is not an option. Turkey and Iran have fought the Kurdish rebels. gosh Iran is looking like everybodies best friend suddenly. and we may have to backtrack on Assad in Syria until the Iraq thing calms down. too much is being made of this, if there is a new country they can call it IraqSoWhat, they have little strategic value in the eastern part, and they will never take the oilfields at Basra, and we hate the Kurds anyway, so let them have at it. it is a distraction from an already feckless ME policy.
Sometimes this stuff is just too obvious. That parade of captured Humvees for example...you think we couldn't turn that into another "highway of death" if we wanted? That's the point...we don't want to. Now ask yourself "why?" and you're getting somewhere
if you mean its obvious that public exhaustion with this war prevents a repeat of the gulf war 1 (highway of death) when we massacred retreatting iraq republican guards. tim mcveigh watched them burying iraq soldiers alive in the trenches and came home with an attitude. bush 2 put on shock and awe after eight years of degradation through the no fly zone. you cant just push a button it takes a long time to set these things up. (why havent they set up a nofly on the persian gulf - hint they tried but the port deal with UAE was going to be a quid pro quo for US troops at the straight of hormuz). the difficult part in any war is not landing a force large enough to accomplish the mission, its getting them out. (it took years to bargain with uncle ho to pull that off) your only alternative to putting boots on the ground is to punish the population with air strikes, but unlike the nofly in iraq there is really nothing left to degrade, their infrastructure is in ruins. it would be as obvious as sending US troops in to finish Russia after W2. think about that one a bit
It would wreak the pump and dump.
Perhaps we just expunge the freaks mentioned in the article, arrested as foreign agents, conspirators, traitors, spys, and anarchists. Using the NSA we should be able to construct a tree with all current affiliated actors, round them up, put them in a secret prison, uncharged, for an undisclosed length of time with no legal council. Rendition, that's what you call it. Render them like the pig fat that they are.
You and who else will do this? Have you looked around your neighborhood recently? Are there many people left with a resoning brain, a bit of guts and the nothing to lose - devil may care attitude?
The American people no longer care nor want to know anything beyond their creature comforts.
Motivation matters. 800 jihadis just ran off and slaughtered some 30 or 40 thoussnd troops in Iraq. A small committed group in Eastern Ukraine is holding off the better equiped and much more numerous Kiev crew.
no - 800 did not route 30k troops. This is more than a case of the CIA and/or Mossad's fighters trained in Jordan - regular Iraqis are abandoning, if not attacking, the corrupt us puppet regime.
Corrupt US puppet is redundant.
Malaki is now off the reservation with new friends and won't be going anywhere.