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Obama Asks For $500 Million To Equip Syrian Rebels As The ISIS Juggernaut In Iraq Spreads

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It is going from bad to worse for the Iraqi government, whose armed forces according to at least one unconfirmed media report, have suffered major losses.

Perhaps confirming this, is the report from Reuters that overnight ISIS continued it southern creep toward Baghdad, and has now reached a town that is just an hour from Baghdad which is home to four natural gas fields on Thursday, "another gain by Sunni insurgents who have swiftly taken large areas to the north and west of the Iraqi capital."

The overnight offensive included Mansouriyat al-Jabal, home to the gas fields where foreign companies operate, security forces said. The fighting threatens to rupture the country two and a half years after the end of U.S. occupation.

Meanwhile, the Jihadists continue to consolidate their territories not only in the middle of the country but key transit points to Syria where as we reported yesterday, al-Qaeda forces in the two countries merged after ISIS forces and troops from the al Nusra front combined in at least one city. ISIS now control several border posts with Syria and have stolen U.S.-made weapons from Iraqi forces.

Iraq, however, has not been completely paralyzed in light of the oncoming juggernaut and overnight Iraqi forces launched an airborne assault on rebel-held Tikrit on Thursday, landing three helicopters with commandos in a stadium for what appeared to be their boldest counter-attack yet against Sunni insurgents who have rampaged through the north.

Eyewitnesses said battles were raging in the city, hometown of former dictator Saddam Hussein, which fell to Sunni Islamist fighters two weeks ago on the third day of a lightning offensive that has given them control of most majority Sunni regions.


The helicopters were shot at as they flew low over the city and landed in a stadium at the city's university, a security source at the scene said. The government did not immediately respond to requests for comment and by evening the assault was still not being reported on state media.


The source, speaking on condition of anonymity, said fierce clashes ensued, centered around the university compound.


Ahmed al-Jubbour, professor at the university's college of agriculture, described clashes taking place inside the colleges of agriculture and sports education.


"I saw one of the helicopters land opposite the university with my own eyes and I saw clashes between dozens of militants and government forces," he said.

Perhaps the reason why the air force merely used helicopters and not airplanes is because as we also reported previously, the Iraqi air force "has only two modified Cessna aircraft."

Regardless, for now Baghdad appears to be safe unless of course ISIS manages to run over the Haditha Dam, which as we explained yesterday, is the second largest in Iraq and a critical source of drinking water for the capital. Should the Jihadists hold it hostage, or worse, release the contained water, the flood, or merely the lack of bearable living conditions in Baghdad, will promptly force the local population to evacuate thus opening up the path to the critical energ-rich areas in the south.

We will cross that bridge once we get to it. For now the far bigger focus appears to be on Syria whose eastern portions, as the following AFP map shows, is effectively ISIS territory with the al Qaeda group now controlling all the key border crossings on the Iraqi side.

Which perhaps explains why, literally seconds ago, and likely attempting to pivot from the disastrous events in Iraq, Obama is once again focusing on Syria. According to AP, President Barack Obama is asking Congress for $500 million to train and arm vetted members of the Syrian opposition.

The military training program would deepen the Obama administration's involvement in the more than four-year conflict between rebels and forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad. If approved by Congress, the program would supplement a covert train-and-assistance program run by U.S. intelligence agencies.The Senate Armed Services Committee has already approved a version of the sweeping defense policy bill authorizing the Defense Department to provide "equipment, supplies, training and defense services" to elements of the Syrian opposition that have been screened. The Senate could act on the bill before the August recess.


The president hinted at the increased support for the opposition forces during a commencement address at West Point last month.


"In helping those who fight for the right of all Syrians to choose their own future, we also push back against the growing number of extremists who find safe haven in the chaos," Obama told the graduating cadets.

But wait, didn't Obama do just this a year ago only to find that the arms were going into the hands of Al Qaeda extremists - essentially the same ones the US will be waging war against any minute in Iraq?  Well yes. But this time Obama has a fail safe plan.


Oh, it's just the "moderate" terrorists Obama will be arming. Not the more radical types. But how Obama will make the distinction? Well, that's what polling is all about. To wit: "Excuse me, would you describe yourself as a moderate or extreme al-Qaeda jihadist. Answering affirmatively to the former assures you your own US-made Humvee and a few thousand bullets to shoot at US soldiers across the border in Iraq."

While we wish we were joking, this sadly describes the current all too real state of US diplomacy in the middle east.


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Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:50 | 4899335 Pinto Currency
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He's already spent how many billion on these ISIS / Al Qaeda terrorsts now?

He's now asking for permission to finance AQ?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:52 | 4899356 L Bean
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Yeah but did you hear Kim Kardashian dyed her hair blonde?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:54 | 4899367 in4mayshun
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Quick! Start another war so we have something to blame the collapse of the dollar on!

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:57 | 4899384 pods
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Yo Janet, I need some scrizz on the DL, can you print up say, 500 xx-Large?


Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:15 | 4899489 Oracle 911
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This whole thing is a joke, a bad one and it is on our account.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:26 | 4899545 john39
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People living in the ME don't think its very funny either.  for the most part.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:28 | 4899553 ZerOhead
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Did I miss the part where the Saudis and Qataris ran out of money?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:29 | 4899562 Say What Again
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I know how to fix two problems.  Lets send all of the really violent and psychotic prisoners to Syria, Iraq, etc., and let them run wild.  We clear out the prisons, and don't need to send real soldiers to the middle east.  Now that would be a real Ye-Hawd!


Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:31 | 4899576 SafelyGraze
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this all sounds very chaotic, but at least afghanistan has been secured

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:34 | 4899584 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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"Escape from Iraq"

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:07 | 4900345 mjcOH1
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"Obama Asks For $500 Million To Equip Syrian Rebels As The ISIS Juggernaut In Iraq Spreads"


Why?   Are they having trouble hauling their shit across the border?  

They have plenty of pickups.  
They have plenty of liberated US military equipment. 
They have the border.

Tell the greedy fuckers to move their own looted shit.   Or are we the Mayflower Movers now?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:19 | 4900377 linniepar
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Hey Vlad, what do you think should happen?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:28 | 4900401 InjectTheVenom
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Another day, another Onion-esque headline ! FORWARD !!

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 21:12 | 4900579 clymer
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If only TPTB could slap a happy hat on the global populace:

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 21:29 | 4900638 Bananamerican
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$500 million for Al Quaida? This is the straw that broke my Groped Granny's arthritic back.
You know the dolla's turning into funfetti when they start chucking it round with such wild abandon

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 23:30 | 4901027 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Things must really be taking a turn for the worse when Obama is only talking in the hundreds of millions. Seems like a quaint notion now. A couple of decades ago Australia phased out 1 cent pieces, the concept of million is sure to follow in the states. In fact does the US have any millionaires anymore or have they either gone broke or turned into billionaires?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 21:28 | 4900633 SF beatnik
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Me very confused.  WTF??????????????

I thought they were the bad guys. 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 22:48 | 4900899 Keyser
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Al Qaeda has always been and will always be a group that is owned, funded and managed by th CIA... 


Thu, 06/26/2014 - 23:26 | 4901016 IronForge
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No.  I've an half-arsed proposition... give them another chance at the "Game of Life" in another Country.

Let's call it the "Penal Regiment". "Dissident Division", "Penal Corps", "Convict Corps", Anarchy Army", or "Team Tyranny".

A bit like Red Dwarf's Canaries(funny for them to think of it; but they've enacted AUS)... (Convict Army Nearly All Retarded Inbred Evil Sheepshaggers).

They'll have to learn the Local Language and Assimilate with the Local Customs.  Mandatory Community Work. Let them quell the "Opposition", give them Food/Meds/Ammo (and Sheep), Pardons/Letters of Non-Pursuit, and Travel Visas/Passports/Emigration Paperwork in those Countries.  Mebbe send some Local Vocational Trainers after a WarFront is quelled.  Mebbe send their families over after a War.

Yes - a One Way Ticket out of Prison and the USA - with no means of return.

They fight and survive - or die trying.  If they try to return, they get booted out and get sent to a slammer abroad.  If they join the Enemy, they become priority Drone Targets and their family/friends/fellow Convicts' valued humans get on the Big Brother's $#!+ Llist.        

That being said,
I've had several Troops who joined the Navy as a result of a Court Case - with mixed results.  Two Men did extremely well, one didn't like life at Sea and went back to Court (and Prison, I presume doing the similar work for less money and no pesonal freedoms), and (IIRC) a spoiled Girl from a "Rich" Jewish Family (called me an anti-semite once, should have fried her then - I used to be betrothed to a German Jewish Woman out of HS) became a Conduct Case (barred from re-enlisting), tried to have family stalk me and ruin my Life and Career afterwards.

I'd rather not allow Court Cases to be given access to the Military.  Wer're not Babysitters for some Problem Children and Miscreants.  That's what Juvi Halls and Prisons are for. 

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 05:47 | 4901369 Clueless1
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Sounds like that Carlin joke; fencing off the useless states of the US, putting a population of murderers in one, sex criminals in another, the criminally insane in another and the last state houses all of the problem substance abusers (Carlin defines problem users as those who keep fucking up while under the influence.  Everyone gets a dozen chances, otherwise the place will be filled with drunk and doped up teenagers). 

Food, weapons and drugs are air-dropped in, along with the new prisoners.  Once a month, the gates between the various states open for 30 seconds.  The entire facility is paid for via the revenue from pay-per-view.

There you go.  Give your Canaries helmet cameras, and then they can run the highlight footage on CNN. 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:34 | 4899585 Say What Again
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Why does he need more money?  Wasn't this covered by the VIG?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:40 | 4899611 TahoeBilly2012
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Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:44 | 4899624 COSMOS
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They spend more money there than they ever did on Detroit.  Money spend destroys more cities around the world when they could of been fixing cities back home.  This is why this country is going to shit.  This also buys tons of ill will around the world.  These same dudes we are outfitting have been killing christians and torching churches.

I guess the game plan is make every city around the world LOOK LIKE DETROIT.

Makes sense Obummer is a Muslim at heart.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:52 | 4899659 WeNeedaRealGovt
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You sound like a typical ZH-GOPTEA-errr confused over who is advocating and spending money on war machine.  Like most GOPTEAs you forget it was YOU who voted in NeoCoNs and invaded IRAQ.  You probably voted for your local GOP who wanted to joing Gay John and Lindsey in arming the rebels that BO refused to, then you said he was weak and undecided.

Now you seem to ignore these same rebels have turned out to be true AQ, and you blame him for the Iraq mess.  I guess you'll agree he also let the towers fall?

I agree spend the $$ at home, but I can't understand how you would even post that since GOPTEAs only spend money on the rich and people are stupid.  Plain and simple.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:03 | 4899700 CCanuck
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You need a real lobotomy

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:07 | 4899718 Say What Again
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Even a fake lobotomy would be too good for that guy.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:12 | 4899735 Pinto Currency
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We don't need gov to take money and spend money.

We need gov to stop destroying our countries, facilitating paper money central banks and financial system fraud, to stop screwing-up health care systems with central planning, to stop violating property rights, to stop agitating for politics of envy and group conflict, ...


Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:18 | 4899761 macholatte
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You sound like a typical ZH-GOPTEA-errr confused......


That commercial was brought to you by Media Matters and the Center for American Progress where trolling on the internet pays numbskull liberal arts students more than minimum wage.

Or am I confused?


Bra ha ha ha


Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:36 | 4900058 TuPhat
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Hey, Weeneed, the farce is strong with you.  Make your posts shorter maybe I will understand the humor better.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:39 | 4900244 Midas
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What we have in Syria is a bunch of Towelheads trying to find reverse in a Soviet tank.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:43 | 4899771 Quus Ant
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"Most people get one(lobotomy) in grade school.  By the end of high school they've been hallowed out and are primed for college.  Then they enter the race.  Some have called it a rat race- I call it the human race. What a disgrace.

Here's a thought:  The ponzi is coming apart.  And at an accele-rate.  Permanent war status isn't enough.  TARP wasn't enough.  QE whatever wasn't enough.  The trillions that evaporated when the pentagon was hit by a "plane" weren't enough.  They can't let it go.  And I don't blame them exactly- who knows what happens when it blows.  If they scale back QE they need to scale up somewhere else. and up and up and up.  Exponential un-fun ction.

War is, as always, the answer.  Those in power have to convince us that these numbers matter- taxes, budgets, GDP- to keep us in line and maintain the status quo, but when all that math becomes inconvenient the collective mind of the rabble must be scrubbed with terrifying and awe-inspiring spectacle.  The "year of jubilee" delivered with a bullet.  Wait for it...... wait for it....... cultural lobotomy in 3......2......"  -therantingsofamadman

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:47 | 4900486 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Big problems require big distractions. These problems are epic...

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 23:41 | 4901055 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Can't believe there has not already been a repeat of the LA riots or was this part and parcel of putting a black man in the w.hite house?

Bottom line is, the LA riots spread across a huge cross section of society in multiple cities is what is in store for Americans. Can't imagine any force. police or military could stop this, it would be too chaotic for them to control. Besides that Chuck Norris would probably be on the side of the people and he'd neitralise the entire US military just on his own. One round house kick and they would all lay down their arms. 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:52 | 4899869 toady
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:08 | 4899952 Fíréan
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Rather I'd  front a full have me of bottle than lobotomy a frontal..  So there.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:41 | 4899830 Donutwarrior
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What are you talking about?  I think you missed a few weeks of meds there.....

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:19 | 4899993 CultiVader
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Who the fuck r u responding to? Most here refrain from voting or vote out incumbents as a rule. Go buy a gun. You'll feel better.

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 04:18 | 4901319 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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America and its proxy wars, amiright?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:49 | 4899646 CheapBastard
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Interstingly, Barry has never asked even for 1 cent to help the American Middle Class, and yet he wants $500 million for a bunch of terrists.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:54 | 4899666 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Another delirious post - what rock did you crawl out of.
Are you saying that the GOPTEA is helping the middle class? Which country?

Interestingly you have +'s. LOL

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:21 | 4899999 jcaz
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...More interestingly, you actually have one +...   Your mom must have come in from the corner for a few....

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:40 | 4900071 Son of Loki
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Another reason why the Middle Class has disappeared and the tear-or-rists have multiplied exponentially.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:16 | 4900366 COSMOS
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The grass grows where you water, ie where ever the greenback really do trickle as in gushing/come tumbling down down is where the growth is.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:40 | 4900070 TuPhat
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Again, Weeneed?  What is GOPTEA? I bet you made that  up yourself didn't you.  You must not know that this is ZH.  Be a party basher somewhere else.  We don't like any of the parties here on ZH

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 03:32 | 4901284 Tall Tom
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Weeneed is still in the Matrix and locked into that Red Team/Blue Team crap.


How does Pink Flloyd say it? He is nearly a laugh but he's really a cry.


It is really, very sad. But this is typical of most of the Zombies out there.


Hopefully he will learn something. If he keeps being a nuissance then he can go back to HuffPo, Faux News, or any of that other Socialist Propaganda Drivel.


They cannot even consider that anarchy works best. He needs to read Henry David Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience" to understand that when men are ready for it that the best type of Government is no Government at all.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:04 | 4900336 nodoctor
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When your GOPTEA is POTUS or has a majority in congress, then we can talk about their failed policies. Until then we shall talk of the failures of the criminal politicians we do have occupying DC. Why useful idiots like you are so happy to pretend there is a difference between team Edward adn team Jacob I will never know.  Either that or you truly have not yet figured out that to buy into any part of the lie is to consent to the entire broken system - all of the lies, all the murder, all the coverup. Maybe you're just a paid rat for the oligarchy. Then go fuck yourself.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:07 | 4900344 NoDecaf
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You obsess over the GOPTEA like a homophobe does over gays. Is it difficult to troll so much with those hairy palms?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:57 | 4899669 ZerOhead
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"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."


The middle class simply isn't squeaking loud enough yet...

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 06:54 | 4901422 what's that smell
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>>While we wish we were joking, this sadly describes the current all too real state of US diplomacy in the middle east.

it's sad if you believe the policy is a failure; what makes you think it's failed?

both ISIS and AQ are funded by the USA. now, obama is asking for more money.

the objective is the destruction of the iraqi and syrian governments.

what's the joke? 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:56 | 4899670 COSMOS
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Who can blame him he really wants that second Nobel Peace Prize.

Which brings me to bring this very important point.  Who sits on these Nobel committees and who owns them.  And are the science nobel prizes just as tainted except maybe for a few high profile achievements.

I say Nobel Schnobel its a bullshit prize.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:41 | 4899827 Quus Ant
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you cannot serve god(conscience) and money.  If you want that paper you live at Caesar's favor.  And that goes for us all.

"in a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face" -Diogenes  
Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:58 | 4900314 disabledvet
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It is a good question as to where the money is coming from. You can't just print it into existence anymore.

"Just do the book tour like Hitler and we won't reveal your role in the" (insert dastardly deed everyone else knows your doing as everyone else is doing it"

Says ISIL on the map again btw.

"There is no ISIS."

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 04:19 | 4901320 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Well, Americans are well-known for their anti-intellectual attitudes. =)

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:40 | 4899832 dumbStruck
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He hates you for your freedoms.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:43 | 4900261 max2205
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That's $2.50 per US citizen...1.50 if you count illegals...oh wait they are legal

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:24 | 4900018 DeadFred
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He was going to ask for an even billion but they already got 500 million when they overran the Mosul central bank.

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 04:15 | 4901318 BorisTheBlade
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He should send them a printing press then. They seem to handle central banking pretty well.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:17 | 4899989 dumbStruck
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Can't wait to see how things go there after all the nato troops have left,.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:45 | 4899587 ZerOhead
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Better just to follow Vlads lead and have a vote to annex Iraq into a new American territory. Throw in a free trip to DisneyLand to all Iraqis and it's pretty much a done deal.

200+ billion barrels solves Americas energy needs for the next century and makes us worth an extra $20 trillion which we can then give to the oil companies, bankers and our amazing leaders...

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:46 | 4899639 COSMOS
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Annexation is good but first we have to let them kill each other till there is no man woman or child standing.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:00 | 4899657 ZerOhead
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No need to kill... it's not like their vote for the Democrats or Republicans is going to change anything anyway...

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 04:20 | 4901321 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Has anyone ever mentioned that you exhibit all the behavioral traits of a sociopath?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 21:29 | 4900639 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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As Colonel Jack T. Ripper said "the only remaining strategy available to them will be full commitment"

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:38 | 4899604 Ariadne
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Cuba emptied their prisons into Florida. Russia, China & Mexico sent us their gangsters. Now its our turn. Empty all the prisons.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:13 | 4899742 COSMOS
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It would be interesting to see how our street Gang boys do against Terror Inc. on the battlefield.

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 02:02 | 4901238 TBT or not TBT
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They would need sights on the side of their side arms.  

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 04:20 | 4901322 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Depends on the level of loyalty and the quality of the arms involved.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:44 | 4900476 thamnosma
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Or we could send all the new illegals over there, give each $50 and any of them that make it back to the USA get citizenship.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:01 | 4900132 Thirtyseven
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The average person in the ME knows more about American politics than the average American does.  Have a visit, have some conversations.  You'd be surprised (or not) about what they know.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:25 | 4899548 Save_America1st
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yeah...the Syrian rebels, aka: "freedom fighters", aka: Al Quaida, aka: ISIS/ISIL

You mean those guys?  The bad guys who because of we now have to give up our rights and freedom in America?  Those guys?

Yep...obama is the leader of the military all right...the fucking terrorist military of Al Quaida.

I'd say it's un-fucking-believable, but actually it's all become very believable, hasn't it? 

Mother-fucking treasonous piece of shit, aka:  obama

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:16 | 4899744 F0ster
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Obama, Saud and Isreal are doing this specifically to turn their emenys against each other. Bibi even came out and admitted this plan last week. He's right, stand back and watch them kill each other. Obama/Bibi/Saud are simply adding fuel to the guys who will go full retard on Assad and Iran to weaken them up for the next phase, which is Isreal attacking Syria/Iran. 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 23:32 | 4901040 Aussiekiwi
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If you like your Syrian rebels you can keep your Syrian rebels.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:30 | 4899552 Ignatius
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Imagine Russia or China arming "moderate" Mexican-American "freedom fighters" in the border region.

Has realpolitik ("I'm the USA and I'm gonna butt-fuck ya and you're gonna take it") ever been this real?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:48 | 4899629 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Sometimes it seems they've given up on the public relations propaganda because they know it's not working anyway. We've transitioned from soft-core tyranny to...

"We're gonna do whatever the fuck we want and you're gonna pay for it or we're breaking through your door and throwing a grenade in your baby's crib."

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:46 | 4899850 JuliaS
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Imagine Russia arming Cuban... nevermind.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:36 | 4899823 RafterManFMJ
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So he wants to outfit them with 3 F-35 Lightnings?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:03 | 4900135 Thirtyseven
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Why not?  They already have Blackhawks, MRAPs, and M1151 uparmored humvees (and the hundreds of .50 cals mounted on top of each of them!)

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:54 | 4899370 CH1
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There ya go!

Lots of side jobs for the MIC!

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:10 | 4899457 Stoploss
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Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:46 | 4899640 msmith9962
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So arm both sides in Syria and Iraq?

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 03:38 | 4901290 Tall Tom
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Every successful trader hedges. The Arms Traders do it also.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:21 | 4899766 hairball48
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Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:00 | 4899908 SILVERGEDDON

So - with the Kimster's dye jobbie.

is she a two tone, or did she paint the beaver as well ? 

Inquiring minds need to know.

Oh Yeah - are they gonna film the next year's Naked Survivor in Syria ?

That - would jack the fucking ratings through the roof.

Send Barak, Michelle, and the children over for the first episode.

Fucking Hollywood Gold.

I'm going to transform the entertainment industry with shit The American People can really identify with.

Send god and silver coinage to my Kickstarter campaign, willya ? 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:52 | 4900110 SyriaL Stowlker
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Yah , she did . . . She also Saved #savekessab #savedkessab

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 22:54 | 4900914 conspicio
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Shit was a wig, yo. As a rhetorical aside, why the fuck do I know this?

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 06:35 | 4901413 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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I'll never understand the Western media's unhealthy obsession with the Aryan female.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:53 | 4899363 madcows
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seriously, they've spent billions equipping both sides.  let the muzzies kill each other.  no need to send our boys there or to give them our borrowed money. 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:06 | 4899438 Canadian Dirtlump
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It's better to give your borrowed money to Israel I guess? By the way your borrowed money tends to go to places that sell tanks and airplanes, not citizens who need it.


If it wasn't for NATO meddling there's a decent chance peace would reign.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:13 | 4899477 CrashisOptimistic
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It's not borrowed.

It's printed.

Jeez, get the word right.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:25 | 4899547 mumcard
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If it's not borrowed then why are we paying interest?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:01 | 4899691 gatorengineer
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We are printing that too..

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:27 | 4899784 nope-1004
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A ponzi scheme is a circle jerk:  Print the dollars to lend, print the interest to pay back, fool everyone for a bit, but in the end a ponzi is still a ponzi.  It is just one big circular flow of numbers on a ledger, with zero intrinsic value.

And that's where we are today.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:05 | 4899942 dumbStruck
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They print, you pay interest, it's called milking the many for the benefit of the few.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:34 | 4899591 moneybots
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"It's not borrowed.

It's printed."


The government has to borrow it for the FED to print it.  A Federal Reserve Note is an instrument of debt.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:06 | 4899717 COSMOS
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Hmmm someone at the FED is making a ton of money not just on the interest but on being able to print money out of thin air and give it for next to nothing to their cousins running the banks who then give loans with easy terms to other cousins who use the money for LBO etc... to take over corporations and own America literally

Sounds like an 'old' boys club and we are not in it.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:01 | 4899697 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Isn't that what is happening - Shia vs Sunni?  Credit Obama.  this result hasn't cost one life and very little money.  

But I guess you can just give the GOPTEA assholes credit when thousands of militants kill each other.

I noticed you got -'s - so its true ZH is just another Drudge wannabe.  What a waste of sometimes good editorial and research talent.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:10 | 4899728 Canadian Dirtlump
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The Islamists in ISIS, Jabhat al Nusra, Al Quaeda, Salafis, Wahhabis stand alone. They kill anyone who does not subscribe to their stripe of Islam be they Sunni or Shia. Period. ANYONE who does not toe their line is an apostate and worth of execution.


This is different than a mainstream media peddled simple "Sunni vs Shia."


You have Radical ISIS and a Baathist Militia on one side, and Iraq on the other.


There is no credit to be given to the GOP or Obama for doing anything than the bidding of the folks behind the curtain who want the fertile crescent of iraq syria and iran destroyed.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:37 | 4899824 Radical Marijuana
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"The folks behind the curtain who want the fertile crescent of iraq syria and iran destroyed" are also going for two birds with one stone, since they are destroying the American democratic republic at the same time. The degree to which Zionists dominate the government of the USA is quite astonishing. It can only be understood as due to the ways that triumphantly backing up lies with violence eventually results in runaway criminal insanity controlling civilization.

That basic mechanism of the successful application of the methods of organized crime to be able to dominate the political processes has no apparent solutions: EVERYTHING "is going from bad to worse," and the more one learns about that, the worse it gets!

The overall systems are metaphorically dominated by Vicious Wolves, who are funding Wild Dogs. Meanwhile, most of the American military are more Domesticated Dogs, that seem unable to prevent themselves from being abused and misused, since the overwhelming vast majority of the American People have become Zombie Sheeple.

The basic system is Vicious Wolves controlling the Zombie Sheeple, while those Vicious Wolves deliberately feed some of the Wild Dogs, inside of the overall strategy to control those Zombie Sheeple. Since almost all the opposition to that are Black Sheeple, who advocate everyone should be better Sheeple, as the "solutions" to those runaway problems of the world being controlled by a criminally insane agenda, I see no way to  doubt that things are going to continue "going from bad to worse!"

There is nothing that says that the series of short-term successes of controlling the world with deceits backed by destruction has to stay within the realm of rationality. Instead, in my view, it is guaranteed that the world thus controlled by criminally insane people MUST end up producing criminally insane futures. Technologies becoming trillions of times more powerful have amplified that depravity by many orders of magnitude, but otherwise not changed that tragic trajectory, that American foreign policy is conducted by political puppets, whose strings are being pulled by criminally insane puppet masters. In that context, it is probably not possible for ordinary people to fully imagine how much worse those criminal insanities are going to become!

It is not like any of the alternative Wild Dogs are any better than the current ruling classes of Vicious Wolves. Furthermore, there are no apparently practical political solutions, given that the vast majority of people ALREADY ARE Zombie Sheeple, who are misled by the controlled opposition Black Sheeple regarding what the "solutions" should be. That entire situation is a recipe for runaway criminal insanities to continue to "control" the world. However, that kind of "control" is practically guaranteed to continue to become more and more insane, and therefore, to spin more and more out of control ...

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 23:29 | 4901030 Aussiekiwi
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Sooo, all pretty much under control, good to hear, I understand one of the Kardashians has changed her hair color, must go and check that out.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:28 | 4900217 TheFourthStooge-ing
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But I guess you can just give the GOPTEA assholes credit

Goapty assholes? WTF? Did you mean goatse assholes?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:55 | 4899372 Cattender
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what the Heck..might as well make it a cool Trillion. i'm sure Janet will be happy to print it right up!

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:54 | 4900116 Tompooz
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Yippee! Let's have a "money surge".

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:55 | 4899377 Yes We Can. But...
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$500MM won't buy squat

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:56 | 4899381 buzzsaw99
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the headline should read: "owebomba requests chump change"

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:58 | 4899387 ReallySparky
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Unfortunately right now it will buy real weapons that will kill people, until the dollar doesn't.  So I am sitting here thinking that the next time I fly, at the least the TSA will be able to protect me from the Moderate AlQueda.  When will Americans wake up?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:09 | 4899452 Canadian Dirtlump
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I look forward to reading about the seizure of new weapons by the SAA on which will include as it normally does, light and heavy machine gunse, ammo, anti tank missiles, night vision goggles, gas masks, mixings for crude chemical weapons and of course, their drug of choice captagon.



Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:01 | 4899690 Cathartes Aura
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$500MM won't buy squat

a mere loyalty bonus tossed to the "Industrial" part of


and not so "complex" to understand lately. . .

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:02 | 4899417 Hugh G Rection
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Fucking Shit Show.

It's insulting the horse shit they expect us to believe.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:03 | 4899424 Hugh G Rection
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The true value of a conflict is in the debt that it creates.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:07 | 4899441 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Only the re-tard-Pubs have spend serious $$ arming and fighting wars.  

You criticize Obama for not doing anything to arm Syrian rebs, then you claim he spent trillions???

You ZH-TEA-GOPers shouldn't be allowed to vote - can't keep your thoughts straight.  

And no, McCain isn't in office.  There would be a real deprression if he were.



Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:12 | 4899474 Hugh G Rection
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"You ZH-TEA-GOPers shouldn't be allowed to vote"

If voting made a difference it would be illegal.  You need to break out of that left-right psychosis buddy.  The democrips and rebloodlicans serve the same master... and it aint the American Public.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:17 | 4899504 quasimodo
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Good grief, what's up with the influx of all the fucking trolls lately?

Fucking A it's sickening.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:25 | 4899546 Canadian Dirtlump
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So Quasimodo is watching TV and he notices his wife in the kitchen with a WOK. HE says "ooh great I love Chinese food!"


She says "Oh no dear, I'm just ironing your shirts!"



Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:08 | 4899723 COSMOS
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quasimodo its the hashtaggers from the state department and the NGO's trying to silence dissenting voices by 'bombing' their places of discussion.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:18 | 4899739 Canadian Dirtlump
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how the fuck can you not like that joke? Is there a hunchback mafia out their in the same vein as the LGBT mafia?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:24 | 4899780 quasimodo
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hehe, up arrow from me. Some folks have no sense of humor.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:34 | 4899586 Surging Chaos
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I've wondered the same thing and it's probably because it's an election year.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:42 | 4899623 Poundsand
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With the tag "weneedarealgovt" and he's bitching about the tea party?  Man - where do these guys come from?  No doubt he loves our current gobment.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:14 | 4899746 WeNeedaRealGovt
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I'm not the one who attaches to a Rah-Rah-Go-GOPTEA website.  Admit it you vote Red all the time, but you think your open-minded.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:31 | 4900419 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Pardon me for saying so, but you appear to be somewhat accredited.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:11 | 4899731 WeNeedaRealGovt
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My point is simple - ZH is just another "Drudge" or Faux news site... you guys will just keep voting Red.

The war and the unpaid for tax cuts has cost this country a cool $10 Trill. So just blaming Obama makes you a troll of both of these parties you say you're against.

Since this is a GOP site - that makes you stupid.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:19 | 4899745 Canadian Dirtlump
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Obama is responsible for his part, the GOP is responsible for theirs. Obama making efforts to arm syrian terrorist rebels is on its face Obama's fault, not he GOP.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:20 | 4899768 WeNeedaRealGovt
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So Obama is responsible for the Depression too?  This was started long before with GOP policies.  Your a Deny-er. Typical can't understand the basic math that he started with $1.7 trill deficit.

The banks control the presidency so the point that Obama is responsible is part true.  But the GOP goes to bat big time for the banks, and you Red GOPTEA-ers are just plain wrong.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:37 | 4900060 Dublinmick
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Trolls cannot get it through their head that most people with a room temperature I.Q. have seen past the left right paradigm. Go back to the freeper site, national review, join a high school debate team or something.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:44 | 4900483 gonetogalt
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This guy is a fucking moron...5 weeks & 5 days. 

(not you, Dublin)

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 21:44 | 4900702 Dublinmick
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It is always appreciated when I am not taking hit :)

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:50 | 4900498 thamnosma
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Why even respond to it.  The only point is to get a rise out of people and derail any real discussion.  Seriously, it's not here for any sort of conversation, even an adversarial one.   Not very intelligent either.

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 03:56 | 4901298 Tall Tom
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Maybe there is a chance of waking him up???


I will take the chance and add to the numbers of those aware than blithefully allow him to spew his drivel.


It may be slim to none but I am hoping that it is slim and that he awakens. Perhaps he is not ready. Perhaps he will never be ready. But he is here. Maybe he stumbled accidentally onto the right place. So it is still worth a shot.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:21 | 4899521 Canadian Dirtlump
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THe islamist radicals are PAID in US dollars. Fresh cheddar from the CIA and state department. So both in weapons support and just salary the US has spent plenty of money. The only question if it was borrowed, err printed, or it came from the herion fund.


On link a french ISIS savage finds 3k in US dollars on a rival Islamist fighter ( ISIS and JNA have been locked in battle, as has ISIS with the SAA which makes their purported solely prosecuted advance in Iraq impossible on its face saying there is more to the story but you'd never know that from readin stories here ).


IF they gave US citizens half the money they've given cronies in DC and wall street, and terrorists you'd all be on fuckin easy street.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:31 | 4899571 Joe A
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You have an awfully big mouth for someone who has been ZH member for only 5 weeks and 4 days.

Lately there has been an influx of new ZH members who either have nothing intelligent to say or seem to be taking on sides in the varuious conflicts where most longer ZH members have exactly the opposite view (and most long ZH members indeed have something intelligent to say).

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:42 | 4899620 Enceladus
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5 weeks 4 days...


Linda Green is busy

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:42 | 4899621 Meat Hammer
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You should probably be more familiar with the trolling target area before you troll it.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:42 | 4900254 krispkritter
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WeNeedARealTroll...A Troll can't be a Troll unless he be Troll'in...word: Troll.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:06 | 4899944 Mr. Pickles
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Red-Neg induced temper tantrum?

Fri, 06/27/2014 - 03:51 | 4901297 Tall Tom
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LOL...Who votes? LMAO


The choice of the lesser of two evils is still a choice for evil.


If I choose eil then I reap evil. I do not choose that which is evil.


Few here voted for McCain unless they were still deluded and within the Matrix. McCain was a Neocon warmonger. I refuse to choose war.


Me...I think that I, as well as many here, choose to opt out. There does not have to be any law that prevents it.


I refuse to vote as it will legitamize the Criminal Oligarchy.


Do you know what anarchism is, Weeneed?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:12 | 4899471 Anasteus
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"He's now asking for permission to finance AQ?"

Hm, good question... that's a dilemma. At the moment it isn't clear which group of terrorists is the US ally.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:14 | 4899483 CrashisOptimistic
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Nor who they are supposed to fight -- in Syria.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:26 | 4900025 RadioactiveRant
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You pay Al Qaeda to fight the Russians, the Army to fight Al Qaeda, Israel to fight Syria, Syria to fight, Al Qaeda,...

Where does this shit end?

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:58 | 4899676 drendebe10
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.... if the jackass wants to do this, then the corrupt, incompetent, arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic liar in chief should sacrfice some its celebrity grand imperial golf life style and send the money out of his own corrupt fat wallet....

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:58 | 4899679 gatorengineer
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He actually is that stupid..... Wow....

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 18:13 | 4899973 newbie vampire
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"He's now asking for permission to finance AQ?"

It puts them officially on the payroll.  He might also consider providing additional funds for a flight program for the F-35 before he hands them the planes.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 19:26 | 4900207 mrpxsytin
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I'm sorry Amerika, but the rest of the world can clearly see now that you've lost the plot. The propaganda might work on your own people who have a psychological investment into believing Amerika is the greatest. But for the majority of the world's population who lives outside Amerika, the propaganda has almost no effect. 

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 20:35 | 4900435 Buck Johnson
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This is insanity, truly insane.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 21:01 | 4900529 mrmister
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Who is ISIS? It depends on what your definition of

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:50 | 4899339 LawsofPhysics
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The capital and resource mis-allocation and mal-investment continues...


Hedge accordingly.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:56 | 4899379 Zirpedge
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to be fair, $500M is just a drop in the bucket. I'm sure it sound like a lot of money to an individual but it's likely backed by a transparent expense report we can verify. Are you suggesting that we should not defend innocent Syrians from ISIS? That thought is repulsive.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:57 | 4899388 SmallerGovNow2
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are you suggesting we didn't fund ISIS in the first place?  that thought is ignorant...

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 16:30 | 4899567 Canadian Dirtlump
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Webster Tarpley in his show last week talked about how last year there were many mainstream reports about 10 thousand  foreign fighters being trained in Jordan lst year.


Fast forward to this year and we see about 10 thousand ISIS fighters and a report that they were trained in Jordan..


Figure that one out. Truth is they are indistinguishable from the savages who the west used in Libya, shipped to and trained in turkey but either way, they all have NATO pay stubs.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 17:18 | 4899758 Cathartes Aura
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global mercenary corps(e).

the latest way to War.

Thu, 06/26/2014 - 15:58 | 4899392 pods
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Are you suggesting that this currency is going to, in any way, help the innocent Syrians?


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