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ISIS Declares A Caliphate; Crucifies 9 Syrian Rebels For Being "Too Moderate"

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Erstwhile leader of ISIS, Sheikh Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi has declared himself Caliphate, Amir Al-Mu'minin - Leader of Believers, as militants bear down on Baghdad. This comes as the extremist group demands that all Al-Qaeda and Jihadi branches must now pledge allegiance to ISIS.. if not there are consequences as nine rebels have been crucified for being too 'moderate' or accused of receiving support from Western powers. We suspect this may slow 'demand' for Obama's latest cunning plan to offer 'aid' to only "moderate" terrorists.

ISIS have declared their Caliphate.

Which means...

And all Al-Qaeda and Jihadis must pledge allegiance to ISIS

As a reminder, this is how ISIS envisions its Caliphate:

Or fear death for being too moderate... (as RT reports)

Eight rebel fighters have been crucified in Syria by the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) because they were considered too moderate, a monitoring group said on Sunday.


The eight men were brutally killed in the town square of Deir Hafar in the east of Aleppo province on June 28 because they were from rebel groups that had fought the jihadists as well as President Bashar Assad’s forces, the UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said, AFP reports.


ISIS then “crucified them in the main square of the village, where their bodies will remain for three days,” the pro-opposition NGO added.


A ninth man was crucified alive in Aleppo province where he was nailed up for eight hours in Al-Bab near the Turkish border as a punishment, although he has reportedly survived the ordeal.

We suspect there will not be too many takers for President Obama's newly unveiled plan to offer "aid" to "moderate" Syrian rebels... Red line?

As Reuters reports, better not hold your hand out for Western support...

The men were accused of being "Sahwa" fighters, the Observatory said, a term ISIL uses to refer to rival combatants whom it accuses of being controlled by Western powers.


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Sun, 06/29/2014 - 13:04 | 4907214 The Merovingian
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We need to just stay the hell out of this and let them tear themselves to pieces.  

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 13:05 | 4907216 strannick
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Trained in Jordan b

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 13:24 | 4907270 BaBaBouy
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Well My Fellow Plebes, This Is SERIOUS SHIT Now...

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 13:38 | 4907312 BaBaBouy
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Waterboarding Is Like A Day At The Waterpark For These Thugs...

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 13:44 | 4907330 Top Gear
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The inspiration that William Hickman provides knows no bounds.

Galtahu Akhbar!

Of course, true capitalists really know how to do the punishment thingy for thinking incorrectly. Like snuffing the life out of a whole fucking city, Pol Pot style.

"When you see those lights go out," said Galt, "then you will know that our job is done." ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Looking down, they could see the last convulsions...the lights of New York had gone out. Dagny gasped. "Don't look down!" Galt ordered sharply. ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 13:59 | 4907368 strannick
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Crucifying infidels. Allah must be so pleased.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:18 | 4907415 Top Gear
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All guilty infidels who think impure thoughts must die, just like they did in the Taggart Tunnel.

...there were those who would have said that the passengers of the Comet were not guilty or responsible for the thing that happened to them. ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, p. 566

Even the children of those whose minds think incorrectly must be slaughtered.

The woman in Bedroom D, Car No. 10, was a mother who had put her two children to sleep in the berth above her, carefully tucking them in, protecting them from drafts and jolts; a mother whose husband held a government job enforcing directives, which she defended by saying, 'I don't care, it's only the rich that they hurt. After all, I must think of my children.' ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, p. 567

Preferably the adults will be awake, so they're aware of their punishment for their sins of thinking incorrectly.

"These passengers were awake; there was not a man aboard the train who did not share one or more of their ideas." ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged p. 568

Remember, it's ok for capitalists to use bad methods for a good cause.

Rand herself—says to a Bolshevik: "I loathe your ideals. I admire your methods. If one believes one's right, one shouldn't wait to convince millions of fools, one might just as well force them."


P.S. A desolate earth is the goal of true capitalists everywhere.

"The road is cleared," said Galt. "We are going back to the world." He raised his hand and over the desolate earth he traced in space the sign of the dollar. ~Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:26 | 4907453 SWRichmond
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Cui bono?  Whose case is being made here, and for what?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:37 | 4907471 Manthong
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Maybe we could take part of that 500 million and get these guys to spend a nice vacation in D.C.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:38 | 4907475 TahoeBilly2012
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This is what the Fox News Neocons and the NPR Progressives are planning for the Tea Party.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:41 | 4907485 N57Mike
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First chapter, The Art of War....assemble the troops, cut off some heads to prove the point when you draw the sword you will use the sword.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:56 | 4907530 disabledvet
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This is psychological terror. I wouldn't get to carries away with the theatrics of a bunch of people who already know they're a bunch of dead enders.

"The road was entirely lined with Shiites for the 50 mile trip the military had to take to Karbala.

Like a snake they will surround this made for television movie and then slowly choke them off...then kill them.

The question isn't "what happens to Baghdad" but "what will the Big. Baghdaddy do next?"

Once they feel a victory such as this...might be hard to stop them actually.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:01 | 4907545 TeamDepends
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Fear not Americans, Barry is going to sanction them with a cool $500M MIC gift card.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:08 | 4907568 chumbawamba
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Dude, they declared a Caliphate, man.  This is it.  The next phase of the 1996 PNAC plan is upon us.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:29 | 4907619 Ying-Yang
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Sheikh Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi

 aka El SABAB from now on.

Amir al-Mu'minin is usually translated Commander of the Faithful or Prince of the Faithful, but Leader of the Believers might be a better translation. It is the Arabic style of Caliphs and other independent sovereign Muslim rulers that claim legitimacy from a community of Muslims. It has been claimed as the title of rulers in Muslim countries and empires and is still used for some Muslim leaders.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:49 | 4908053 knukles
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They're such nice boys.
They're so misunderstood.
They're not all like that.
That's stereotyping them.
We mustn't annoy them or show any disrespect.
Their religion is one of peace.
Nobody understands them.
We must practice their traditions to absorb them into society.
They are truly inclusive and diverse
They love all mankind.
It's the Christians fault.
They, oh fuck off.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:00 | 4908081 nmewn
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Its like after Arab Spaaarrriiiiing...comes the hotter than hell heat of the Arab

Sooo, we sat here and told everyone what certain elements of Islam wanted, year after fucking year. Sharia Law, the jizya tax, subjugation, theological regimes/fiefdoms etal ad nauseum.

Our warnings were met with "YOU'RE A RAZZZIST!!! THIS IS DEMOCRACY IN ACTION!!!"

Where have all these brainiac flower children gone? ;-)

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:28 | 4908145 7.62x54r
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They are trying to change the subject, like Top Gear complaining about Ayn Rand in the comments below.

They last thing they want to talk about is the fact that these supposed "moderate sunnis" they were supporting are getting crucified, and that all the money and effort they wasted ended up arming and training a bunch of AQ fanatics, who are about to re-enact another Fall of Saigon moment, while Princess Obama is on watch.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:22 | 4908309 macholatte
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This is psychological terror. I wouldn't get to carries away with the theatrics of a bunch of people who already know they're a bunch of dead enders.


Now I’m totally confused.

Are you talking about the Middle East or the White House?



Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:26 | 4908147 J S Bach
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All I could think of in viewing those horrific pictures is -


"if only they were international banksters".

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:32 | 4908163 El Vaquero
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We're now aligned with Syria in Iraq.  As sick as it is, I had to laugh.  All of our little spy games over there are blowing up in our face.

In a sign of the expanding international crisis sparked by ISIS's rapid advances, Syrian warplanes have bombed some of the jihadist group's bases in Iraq, Ali A. Nabhan and Matt Bradley of The Wall Street Journal report. 


The bombing run was carried out in the western province of Anbar, which shares a long and mostly unpatrolled border with Syria. ISIS has found the space needed to plan and launch offensives in Iraq and Syria in the undefended and lawless frontier between the two countries. 

Read more:

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 01:50 | 4908832 hobopants
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The more I listen to various opinions on this, the more it seems to me that nobody has any idea what the fuck is going on over there.

CIA running around with no oversight funding all kinds of groups willy nilly with their Narco bucks and then the Pentagon pursuing a completely different goal with the regular military.

I don't think it's some grand plan, I think it's just massive incompetence and hubris.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 02:23 | 4908860 Richard Chesler
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the ability of the corrupt puppet in chief to take bankster cock up the ass and mouth is truly remarkable.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 04:09 | 4908899 Lore
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One does get a powerful sense that the left hand is at odds with the right.  I've seen healthy organizations ruined in pathological hands. PNAC and other publications are testament to hubris. Where is the accountability?  Who accepts responsibility for the decisions that led to this, and who is going to take what steps to restore stability and get our people out of there?  The corruption and tension and internal strife below the surface must be tremendous.  How long before it ignites closer to home?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:51 | 4908055 The Alarmist
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Next thing you know, they'll want to rain fire down on Sodom and Gomorrah ....

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:46 | 4908484 knukles
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You mark my words, the Ultimate Battle between Gog and Megog is set to happen, with fire and brimstone raining down upon the entirety of humanity.

(Not that I take any of that literally, but sure is fun to tell Progressives about the SHTF in Biblical Terms... Fucking fries their circuits, LOL)

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:31 | 4907626 john39
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PNAC/MWO psyop to end all psyops unfolding now.    time to wake up people...   nothing is as it appears.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:17 | 4908769 old naughty
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Agent Smiths are flooding the planet.

Where is Neo, the one?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:12 | 4908409 CPL
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<chuckle> oh this is going to get so weird....

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:50 | 4908629 Calmyourself
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There is no caliphate that would mean violence and this is the "Religion of Peace" we are talking about..

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Bamster

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:15 | 4909396 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Here's some very good insight to the whole ISIS - ISIL caliphate play. Sums it up very well.

Sunni-stan indeed, but they don't own a beach..., yet.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:04 | 4907556 MansaMusa
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dead enders?  Did you see where ISIS has a pie chart showing their achievements and their bank roll?   The US spent a few TRILLION and achieved crap.  Better reevaluate things...

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:20 | 4907592 mrmister
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Do you really think some dudes driving in the desert are making those pie charts? (US military contractor) (Daughters of ISIS masonic womens cult)

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:31 | 4907625 Crawdaddy
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Isis will die off and reborn as a group named Horus. Which will also die off, to be replaced with a group named Seb.

Isis, Horus, Seb. The Babylonian "trinity"

Seb will go away and the next group may simply be IHS. A logo already familiar to some.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:29 | 4908323 ForTheWorld
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Who'd have thought that ISIS would have used GoDaddy as the registrar, considering their commercials contain scantily clad women, which must certainly be haram?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 16:22 | 4907727 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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History doesn't have good news for empires which have lost all sense of purpose and direction.

Furthermore... I'm afraid all those prima donnas, faggots, and trannies now entering the ranks of the USSA won't stand a chance against ghosts that spring from the sand to eat your liver for breakfast.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:54 | 4908382 Handful of Dust
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Fighting an ideology is going to be tough. Look what happened with the more powerful and well paid King George soldiers in 1770s.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:12 | 4908407 NuckingFuts
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I have seen a lot of fat assed stupid "straight" folks and I have met some real bad- ass buff smart, fags and dykes..... Just sayin, just cause a solider is straight does not make them effective or vice versa. Not that it really matters I don't see the foot solider as much more then cannon fodder by the elites.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:41 | 4908463 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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"Fat assed stupid straight folks"

They don't make it past boot camp. It's still acceptable to discriminate against fat people in the military, but I doubt it will be in the future.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 05:30 | 4908934 SF beatnik
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Back in 1967, the Army and the Marines were happy to get all the fat bodies they could. (But not the Air Force. And not the Pece Corps, either.)

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:24 | 4909422 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Ah yes. The few, the proud, the un-tatooed, non-obese, hoo kan spel and aren't junkies.

From the WSJ:

Recruits' Ineligibility Tests the Military


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:17 | 4909856 StandardDeviant
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So, if/when the draft comes back, no endless college degrees or exile in the wilds of Canada?  A simple fish tattoo will do the job?  Somebody notify Cpl. Klinger!

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:36 | 4908456 RichardParker
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Gaius Frakkin':

Bingo!  +1000

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:28 | 4908012 Buck Johnson
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Yes it is terror, and guess what it's working.  These terrorists where trained by us in Jordan and they turned and now they are using not only their knowledge buy our knowledge on how to control and terrorize.  This terrorist group is going to be the monster for the us and europe.  They are smack dab in the middle east and on top of all that oil wealth and not to mention the infrastructure of all that oil that feeds the rest of the world.  ISIS or ISIL is Sunni Saudi Arabia is Sunni and most Sunni kingdoms have major Shia minorities that have been demanding rights and Iran has been stocking that.  They are going to use ISIS aka ISIL as their foot soldiers to fight this shadow war against Shia and the west.



Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:18 | 4908129 Christophe2
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None of this is a problem for TPTB, especially regarding the return home of most of these trained-by-US terrorists, since this will give TPTB the excuses necessary for further eroding our rights.  Any crimes ISIL manage to commit will tarnish regular Muslims and even give the excuse for putting them in camps, if 'need' be.

The Western puppet politicians have been carping for years about how the return of all these extremists will be a big problem: this is predictive programming at work!!!

What is a problem for society is often not a problem for criminal elites, and in fact these problems become distractions that let the other crimes (ex: Fed, etc.) be eclipsed.  It is also worth noting that our puppet politicians benefit from having problems they can appear to solve (ex: defeating some puppet enemy) when the time is right.


OT: another interesting example of predictive programming is how we have been warned for decades that future wars would be fought for water and that a water shortage was coming.  I guess it wasn't happening fast enough, so fracking had to get unlimited funding, and when we will finally notice that there is indeed a severe drinkable water problem (for people + farms + nature), most won't be surprised that things are indeed becoming 'just like predicted'...

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:54 | 4907521 Top Gear
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If the Tea Party anarchists are going to be a bunch of bums, then expect FEMA and DHS to be unleashed.

"Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment...unleash the cops to clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares?" ~Murray Rothbard

Sure, FEMA and DHS might appear a little fascist some days, and it is problematic, but such fascist methods will be the salvation of civilization and capitalism.

"It cannot be denied that Fascism...SAVED European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought SALVATION..." ~Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism

I've been s a v e d ! Can I hear an Austrian Amen?


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:56 | 4907526 Top Gear
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- Keynesian

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:01 | 4907547 disabledvet
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Saved! National Socialism!

"An economist is still an economist"...whatever his quirky political views. Hitler yammered on and on endless about production figures to his Generals. I find it interesting that he committed suicide in his "bunker" as it would appear to mean he actually believed in his war.

Do you believe in your war? Be honest! Do you HONESTLY believe in what you are saying.

At first blush you appear to be advocating for terror and anarchy as well.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:26 | 4907613 Top Gear
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Believe in war? Hell yeah, what capitalist doesn't believe in a good racket? War is the way markets are created, as a side effect of providing for the military.

" and markets do not emerge spontaneously...if one simply hands out coins to the soldiers and then demands that every family in the kingdom was obliged to pay one of those coins back to you, one would, in one blow, turn one’s entire national economy into a vast machine for the provisioning of soldiers, since now every family, in order to get their hands on the coins, must find some way to contribute to the general effort to provide soldiers with things they want. Markets are brought into existence as a side effect."

David Graeber (2011) Debt: The First 5, 000 Years

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:34 | 4907631 Crawdaddy
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With those Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V skills, you gotta be a FedRes dude.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:39 | 4907654 nmewn
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He's got a whole computer full of them. So, obviously he doesn't work for the IRS or

More than likely DHS or some zealot cop.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:59 | 4907690 Top Gear
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Are your lies and delusions about me as comforting as your lies and delusions about economics and how society works?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 16:05 | 4907705 JLee2027
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Interesting range of comments Top Gear.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 17:41 | 4907875 nmewn
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Well, so far on various threads you've been for, slavery, the state cracking heads, most regulations, crony socialism aka crony capitalism and against Austrian economics by your continuing misrepresentation of Mises's views on just about everything.

Now, tell me that I lie.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 17:50 | 4907888 kill switch
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Stop burning calories on this guy...


Top smear!!

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:23 | 4908004 nmewn
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I should but he's so completely fucked up its hard for me.

He has taken what Mises said about the evil of communism being checked temporarily by the evil of fascism and made it a Mises endorsement of fascism. Its not what Mises said or meant at all, as evidenced by his last line that the bonehead misquoted "Fascism was an emergency makeshift. (edit: in the context of checking the spread of communism.) To view it as something more would be a fatal error." (edit: he's saying it is just as fatal as communism).

I won't let his Fabian socialist bullshit tactics go unchecked, not now, not ever.

Sorry ;-)


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:42 | 4908039 Tall Tom
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This is the tactic of the Mainstream Media press that is used to discredit voices of reason. I heard this type of crap being spewed on the wires all day long. That is why I discontinued paying CASH for TeeVee. Sean Hannity is a master of it. (The Body Language, of course, here, is missing.)


This should not shock you. They must discredit the movement as we are gaining momentum and they are becoming desperate.


Actually I read Top Gear's posts with as much humor as when I heard the reports from Baghdad Bob during the invasion of Iraq in 2003.


Most of us here, on Zerohedge, are immune to his propaganda tactics. You need to examine your own principles because as Cognitive Dissonance has admonished, if you react then it is something within you that needs to be addressed.


He has got to you. Why?


As for me I will continue to laugh at his lame attempts. Perhaps I will invite him to go hunting.


I am actually shocked that only one person from Zerohedge has had the guts to appear at my doorstep.


My address, once again, is 12223B Woodside Ave., Lakeside, California, USA.


My bet is that Top Gear does not have any guts whatsoever. You are invited to go hunting, Top Gear.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:11 | 4908106 nmewn
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"He has got to you. Why?"

I hate dishonesty and the willful attempt to smear the good, its a character flaw of

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:32 | 4908160 Tall Tom
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You know that I also hate that. But some choose to do what they do.


It is not what others may do, or, do not. It is your own principles which matter.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:03 | 4908264 Miffed Microbio...
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This troll is seriously bent. I was determined to not engage not wanting to be ensnared in his thought vortex but when he quoted Jefferson to illustrate him as a Statist, I succumbed. His only defense was he had a different definition for Statist. There is no point arguing logically with someone like this. He is getting orgasmic joy stirring the pot but underneath the facade of knowledge and intellectual discourse is a flim flam man.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:22 | 4908307 nmewn
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Oh yeah, he's definitely come to stir the pot & disrupt no doubt about it.

But in the process he's doing some good though, we all have some tough decisions/choices we're going to have to make pretty soon...and the birds living in their guilded cages aren't going to like any of them. Nor will we but its going to happen, there is no other way now.

Lets just try to keep our heads about it while everyone else is losing theirs ;-)

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:06 | 4908403 Miffed Microbio...
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But nmewn, LTER is comfortable he can call the cops if a nefarious armed individual is outside his door threatening his security. Same as for a pizza. We are a society that is happy with our comforts and can't imagine a different tomorrow. People don't understand comfort is dangerous because it lulls you into a soporific tranquility. I'm just trying to avoid the inevitable stampede when the shit show is realized.

If TG can help the cause I have no argument, but for the majority here I think he is simply an irritating asshole.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:16 | 4908412 nmewn
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He is a hemorrhoid on societies bunghole that we must pay attention to.

And you know what happens to hemorrhoids ;-)

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:58 | 4908496 knukles
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nmewn, go for it if you need to, but don't blow a circuit.
He's not worth any disruption to your day.
But like you said about me venting my chakra here instead of on my progressive buds on the 9th green with a 7 iron, I cannot dispute the sense of relief I get by dumping of a few here or there.
Why, I clearly remember the "Dr Paul Krugman" amongst others.
Oh, I enjoyed so burning him.

If it feels good, do it.
But don't have an aneurism over the guy.
He is obviously a paid troll
Or crazy
Or both

TopGear in Action:

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:20 | 4908558 nmewn
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lol...not to worry my man, I've already put his broken leg in a splint designed (apparently, according to him, by Mises) and entreated him to the Rule of Law (not just any ole law but the rule of) and enlightened him on his vagaries of voluntary vs involuntary.

But I'm deadly serious on one thing, we will have a just law or we will have no law at all. He will accept these terms or perish into the abyss which he fears the most.

You and I can survive inside or outside this, he can't.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 04:12 | 4908914 Lore
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I don't think it's a real person. One doesn't sense real thought behind those voluminous posts.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:53 | 4908637 Clashfan
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If you hate dishonesty, why can't you admit the truth about 911?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:00 | 4908655 nmewn
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Obsess much?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 05:04 | 4908926 Jacks Creation
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I think he's proabably a bot. Responses are too formulaic. I don't think he'd pass a Turing test.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 05:05 | 4908927 Jacks Creation
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Duplicate post

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:16 | 4908115 Top Gear
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Wow, it took ZH anarcho-Marxist scum to start thinking like Stalin in 2 days flat.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:18 | 4908127 Say What Again
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Top Gear -- Market Advice?

When will you tell us what to do in the market this week?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:25 | 4908141 Top Gear
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Be an inside trader.

What is Morally Right With Insider Trading

Don't have any friends with hot info? Then vent your rage at my "cronies," a synonym for friends you ain't got.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:32 | 4908159 7.62x54r
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Stop trying to change the subject.

Your useless boy king has armed AQ, and they are taking down our client states. All this anti-freemarket ranting from you is an attempt to distract from the subject of this article:

Obama's collossal foriegn policy fuck up.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:43 | 4908476 TrulyStupid
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Cheney, is that you?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:21 | 4908701 7.62x54r
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Cheney, is that you?

The Neocons were just as stupid. Nationbuilding my ass.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:32 | 4908162 Say What Again
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You just seem to be so intelligent, that I wanted to know what you suggested.

But can you please give us a straight answer about what to buy or sell next? Sector-ETFs, Bonds, Gold, Oil.

There must be SOME good advice you can offer.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:24 | 4908707 Calmyourself
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My grand parents lived about two down from you in 1983.  El Cajon still suck as bad as it did then?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:39 | 4908779 Tall Tom
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El Ca John is a Toilet Bowl. It is Tweakerville...along with Lakesuck.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:39 | 4908031 Top Gear
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<<you've been for slavery>>

Indeed, Mortimer!

Capitalist boss mmmm good.

Capitalist slavery mmm good.

Capitalist whips mmmm good.

"He'd like more than anything else to boss me around, and then whip me every time I displeased him....Slave-master Rafe would never shell out the cold cash if, after he paid, I could haul him into court on assault and battery charges when he whipped me."

Voluntary Slave Contracts
by Walter Block, Austrian economist, fellow at Mises Institute

Capitalist tools (unleashed cops) cracking heads mmmm good too.

"Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment...unleash the cops to clear the streets of bums and vagrants. Where will they go? Who cares?" ~Murray Rothbard


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:33 | 4908166 nmewn
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And still you persist...ROTFL!

There is a very large difference between anything voluntary and anything involuntary. Agree or not?

"Cops must be unleashed, and allowed to administer instant punishment, >>>subject of course to liability when they are in error.<<<

You left something out...yet again...doesn't the word "liability" imply something?

Now lets get down to brass tacks, we will have the Rule of Law or we will not. We will have YOUR cronies subject to the very same laws as us or we will have no law at all and no skirt for you to run and hide behind.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:44 | 4908198 Top Gear
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"Be my friend, Godfather." ~Amerigo Bonasera (The Godfather, 1972)


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:53 | 4908228 nmewn
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Sure, Il bacio della morte.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:01 | 4908520 knukles
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This is a well oiled guy whose "Bosses" have put together files upon files of horseshit to pull up, cut and paste by topic at a moment's notice.
Nobody "normal" has the capacity to do such!

And I mean "normal"

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:28 | 4908574 nmewn
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But he's having major problems stringing them all together to incorporate some sort of cogent overall philosophy.

So, pity the poor .gov guys pushing buttons, alms alms for the algos ;-)

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:22 | 4908772 Miffed Microbio...
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Pretty sad.

This guy does appear to be possibly a bot. Very disjointed and limited range of engagement. I do wish he'd shut him mouth. Staring at his toothless maw makes him seem dead and vacuous. Perhaps this is a clue to his true identity.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:42 | 4908785 Tall Tom
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What? Is he a TWEAKER?


The NSA had better slow down on giving out the GoFast.



Mon, 06/30/2014 - 07:08 | 4908994 Exalt
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Seriously pay TopGear no mind. He is a sociopath and wants to convince you that you are one too and therefore he is morally justified in his wickedness. You don't have to play his game.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:34 | 4908170 7.62x54r
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Stop trying to change the subject.

Obama has armed the same assholes who knocked down the World Trade Towers. And now he is about to re-enact the Fall of Saigon in Bahgdad.

If he had a microgram of honor, he would resign for his own incompetance.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:27 | 4908433 Terminus C
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Uh... He gave Cheney an new shitgum?

Oh wait, he sold Saudi Arabia some new weapons?

Oh, no I got it... he's arming Isreal again.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:54 | 4908641 Clashfan
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Ya see, this is why 911 truth is important. TY, Terminus C.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:22 | 4908705 7.62x54r
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Don't mistake my slamming of Obama as support for Bush and Cheney's policies.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 05:14 | 4908930 Jacks Creation
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Hi- A few questions for Top Gear to answer:-

I'm worried about some of the plants in my Garden. Do you think that overwatering could be a problem? (especially the Tomatoes!).

Can you please tell me if point A was an infinite distance from point B, how long would it take for a ball rolled from point A to never arrive at point B?

Last one:- 

Where exactly is yesterday?


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 17:33 | 4907865 Tall Tom
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After reading his posts my impression is that he has a US Military background and mindset.


I believe him to be NSA.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:39 | 4908032 Top Gear
Top Gear's picture is NSA? Dang.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:44 | 4908042 Say What Again
Say What Again's picture

TG,  What is you best advice regarding what to buy or sell in the upcoming week?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:27 | 4908151 Top Gear
Top Gear's picture

Be an inside trader.

A Case For Legalized Insider Trading

Don't have any friends with hot info? Then vent your impotent rage at my "cronies," a synonym for friends you ain't got.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 18:59 | 4908057 Tall Tom
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No. Lew Rockwell is anti war. But you are NSA. And you know that I know it. Gotcha!!!


Come on out and let's go hunting.


12223B Woodside Ave. Lakeside, California, USA.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:06 | 4908091 Top Gear
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Being pro-market means being pro-state and pro-war, as markets and money are merely a byproduct of the state's method to provide for soldiers.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:28 | 4908153 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture

Oh bullshit.


When shall I calendar you in for a hunting trip?


I am open to that idea. Bring your guns.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 09:50 | 4909325 Beowulf55
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WOW...........this troll is good............

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 14:31 | 4910554 old naughty
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Troll 2.0.

Keep feeding it will expose how we behaved/thought...and when they come back with 3.0, we will not be able to tell troll-or-not.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:33 | 4908587 Proofreder
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What, you live over the mailbox service place ?

or across the street near the pawnshop ?

Oops, that address is a parking lot, it seems; on goooooogle maps.

Whatever, big guy.  Of course maybe you really are a small midget.

In several places.

But, have a nice day.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:49 | 4908790 Tall Tom
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Actually I live ABOVE the Pawnshop. (That is to my torment.) There are two Apartments in that building.


Come on out...You are also invited.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 02:00 | 4908842 Flagit
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Is that your RV?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:45 | 4908480 Dublinmick
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PSTD military background to be precise. There is no coming back from DU poisoning.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:53 | 4908225 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Careful Top Gear...these ZHers are now really confused.  They cheer war when we bomb a 3rd world country - hurrah for Shock and Awe?  But they start peeing in their pants when they think the caliphate is coming. Too much Faux news for breakfast.

These ZHers think they are the cutting edge with Ayn and Friends in the afternoon.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:06 | 4908402 nmewn
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Whats the deal, Obama decide to clean up the unemployed stats by giving you a government troll job? In case you hadn't noticed, Obama is droning the fuck out of cafes, restaurants, weddings & funerals >>>in third world countries<<< right now.

You should have stayed on unemployment, you suck as a worker bee.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:29 | 4908437 Terminus C
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It is like they are not even trying anymore... the trolls.  That or all the good ones got a promotion.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:40 | 4908464 nmewn
nmewn's picture there is a comforting thought ;-)

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 05:36 | 4908936 SF beatnik
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@ Top Gear: 


Fuck these endless quotations.  Why not tell us what YOU think. Simply, concisely, clearly. If you can. 

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:17 | 4907587 BigJim
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You are such a weakling with your pathetic quotes taken out of context and laden with ellipses.

So much for the domestic policy of Fascism. That its foreign policy, based as it is on the avowed principle of force in international relations, cannot fail to give rise to an endless series of wars that must destroy all of modern civilization requires no further discussion. To maintain and further raise our present level of economic development, peace among nations must be assured. But they cannot live together in peace if the basic tenet of the ideology by which they are governed is the belief that one's own nation can secure its place in the community of nations by force alone.

It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift. To view it as something more would be a fatal error.

Mises... in 1927.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:29 | 4907618 Top Gear
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Thank you for bringing up that "Fascism was an emergency makeshift."

A splint on a broken leg before surgical repair is an "emergency makeshift" that an emergency room doctor might apply over the weekend, until surgery opens on Monday.

Mises is equating Fascism to an emergency room doctor.

Dr. Fascism, Dr. Fascism! Capitalism needs "saved" (Mises' word) in room 204!

Again, thanks for showing us the rest of how Mises viewed Fascism as "salvation."

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:36 | 4907641 prains
prains's picture

could you just FUCK OFF, please

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:36 | 4907642 nmewn
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Mises is equating Fascism to an emergency room he's not, you are.

What a twisted little bastard. Did you plagarize that horseshit from Brad DeLong or Larry Summers?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:40 | 4907656 Top Gear
Top Gear's picture

Mises chose the word "emergency," not me. Deal with it.

Fade to the "ER" theme...

15 seasons!

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:45 | 4907664 nmewn
nmewn's picture

He didn't say doctor or splint or emergency room or half of the other words you put in his mouth either.

You deal with it you fucking liar.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:53 | 4907681 Top Gear
Top Gear's picture

You're just jealous of George Clooney's good looks.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:38 | 4908181 7.62x54r
7.62x54r's picture

Don't let this obamatard change the subject.

He wants to blather about the free market instead of discussing the subject of this article: Obama's collossal foriegn policy fuckup .. arming AQ, and having them crucify the CIA stooges who helped arm them.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:50 | 4908216 nmewn
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Yes we know, he distracts & disrupts on all these topics.

He is from "the Establishment", there is no doubt now.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:56 | 4908388 WeNeedaRealGovt
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Why do you keep pushing the Ob armed the rebels, when this very ZH blasted a la Gay John and Lyndsay for not doing so?  Turd.  Weak.  

Can't process 2 points of view at once.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:24 | 4908708 7.62x54r
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We shouldn't be arming anyone.

If the fuckers want bang toys, they should just pay for them.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:13 | 4908297 El Vaquero
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So, are you a DHS troll or a State Department troll?  


Edit:  I suppose I should include DOD in there too, since GCHQ was caught doing similar shit to TG and you know that means that the NSA does it too.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:18 | 4908418 El Vaquero
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Go to the slide that is titled "Identifying & Exploiting Fracture Points."  That's what this idiot is trying to do.  

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:19 | 4908551 RichardParker
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Actually, ER docs at most academic teaching hospitals are little more than secretaries that pick up the phone and call in specialists.  Therefore, you are equating Fascism to a secretary.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:23 | 4907603 nightshiftsucks
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Oh come on topgear admit it,the only thing you care about is sucking big cocks.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:25 | 4907605 mrmister
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TOP GEAR...Just curious if your a computer or Human? I saw you post this on a previous article too.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:35 | 4907638 Ben Ghazi
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Voting down Top Gear is fun!

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:00 | 4908079 Top Gear
Top Gear's picture

Does that mean Tyler is a bot when he posts about the Fed for the thousandth time this year?


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:22 | 4908098 Say What Again
Say What Again's picture

TG, Changed Time Stamp?!?!? ----------------

TG, I am responding to a post that has a time stamp of;

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:00 | 4908079 Top Gear

Yet, all of the posts AFTER your post have a time stamp of 14:XX.  That's rather clever.  How did you do that

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:25 | 4908138 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture

I do not respond to posts in a linear fashion. Neither does our NSA Agent Top Gear. (Check out the timestamps on my posts.) You need to learn how the threads work. There is nothing nefarious about the time stamping.


As for Top Gear, however,...

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:28 | 4908149 Say What Again
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TIME STAMP Change: ------

I just figured out how he did it, and it has nothing to do with you posting in a linear nor threaded fashion.

I was able to modify my time stamp for about 15 minutes.

Another bit of information is that he NEVER responds to a direct question.  At least none that I can find.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:40 | 4908188 7.62x54r
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He is paid to change the subject.

The real subject here is Obama's great fuckup in Syria and Iraq.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:55 | 4908238 Tall Tom
Tall Tom's picture

Yeah. We fall for the Bait and Switch.


But Obie's fuckup is massive???


But, somehow, I do not believe that it was a fuck up but is actually part of a plan. That is the cat that they do not want exposed to the light. That is what we are good at doing on ZH.


So tell me how Obie fucked up as he is a warmonger trying to fabricate the excuse to go to war???


I do not believe that he fucked up at all and war will be the result.


Merica!!! Wave dem flags.


Oh Shite..oh...I mean shit.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:25 | 4908711 7.62x54r
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Both Obama and Bush fucked up.

Simple. I'm simply bashing this clown for trying to cover for Princess Obama.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:57 | 4908800 Tall Tom
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I thought that it is Queen Obama. LMAO.


But you've got that right that Dubya and Company were no better. It is just a continuation.


I think that this was done with purpose. Nobody can be that incompetent. Nobody.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 19:49 | 4908212 Tall Tom
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Curious. That can be done?


Clue me in please. I thought that was not possible. So much for thinking, eh?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 20:07 | 4908272 nmewn
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LemmeEatRand does the same thing, once you click on reply its supposed to deny access to them editing their comments, with hers it doesn't...with mine it does.

I've found myself commenting to her after she's changed her comment, which is why I often ask her if she's done commenting...and I can assure you...I can't collect my thoughts to respond and then post three paragraphs within the time stamp frame posted of three seconds.

Its impossible, now you know ;-)

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:02 | 4908659 Tall Tom
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Sun, 06/29/2014 - 23:31 | 4908718 Calmyourself
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LTER is among the "Too Fast" by half bot type software or paid disinfo on this site.  It is nearly time to just shut off the screens nwewn and be at peace with our natures.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 00:39 | 4908781 Miffed Microbio...
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Clicking on the reply button may not block the thread. It's more likely the save button that causes the editing to be blocked. A competent programmer wouldn't make two trips to the server when one suffices. Mr miffed and I will test this theory.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 01:00 | 4908803 Tall Tom
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Let me know how that turns out. Thanks.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 21:22 | 4908424 TuPhat
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You are repeating yourself Top nerd.  New stuff too hard to come up with in that little brain?  Do they pay you by the word?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 22:34 | 4908591 logicalman
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Another fucking insane psychopath has fooled another bunch of idiots that he's god's gift and should therefore be given the power of life or death over others.

It's about time humans WAKE THE FUCK UP!


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:40 | 4907479 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Top Gear ..not a single unique thought in your little statist mind is there?

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:50 | 4907506 Top Gear
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You use "state" like it is something bad.  What are you, a pinko commie who hates land ownership?

"The small landholders are the most precious part of a state." ~Thomas Jefferson, to James Madison, 1785

Precious moments as a "statist." Straight from the Sage of Monticello to your living room.


Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:55 | 4907522 NihilistZero
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The state is VERY fucking bad!  A real landowner relies on himself and voluntary relations with employees, telations and neighbors.  Statist cocksuckers who use .gov to protect their "property" at a lower cost to them than they would face in an anarchist system deserve nothing but scorn.  Rent seeking cunts,just like Ayn Rand.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 14:58 | 4907537 Top Gear
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Um....that was Jefferson I quoted.  Reading comprehension is your friend.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:05 | 4907555 NihilistZero
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I don't give a fuck if you we're quoting Jesus, Jefferson or your Aunt Gertrude.


It is group sanctioned oppression.  Anarchy is the only ethical social construct.

Sun, 06/29/2014 - 15:10 | 4907572 Top Gear
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"Anarchism" is just halfwitted Marxism of the Right.

• "Communism...movement to create...STATELESS social order..." ~/wiki/Communism‎
• "Karl Marx hypothesized...STATELESS, humane society..." ~/wiki/Marxism
• "Anarchism advocates STATELESS societies..." ~/wiki/Anarchism
• "...the STATELESS society both anarchists and Marxists view as their end goal..." ~wiki/Anarchism_and_Marxism
• "...anarchists and Marxists share an ultimate goal of a STATELESS society..." ~/wiki/Libertarian_Marxism
• "...share an ultimate goal of a STATELESS society..." ~/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
• "...share an ultimate goal of a STATELESS society..." ~/wiki/Libertarian_socialist

"This is no surprise, as libertarianism is basically the Marxism of the Right...Like Marxism, libertarianism offers the fraudulent intellectual security of a complete a priori account of the political good without the effort of empirical investigation. Like Marxism, it aspires, overtly or covertly, to reduce social life to economics." ~Robert Locke, Marxism of the Right, The American Conservative, March 14, 2005

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