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Iraq Receives First Fighter Jets From "Our Russian Friends"

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Having offered "complete support" for Iraq's embattled PM Maliki, the troubled nation receives its first shipment of "America deluded us" Russian fighter jets. As RT reports, the Iraqi Ministry of Defense on Sunday confirmed receiving five Su-25 fighter jets in accordance with the deal with Moscow. Iraqi Army Lieutenant General Anwar Hamad Amen Ahmed explained, "our Russian friends have also sent their own experts to assist us in preparing the aircraft. All the logistics have been planned for as well." The proxy war continues...



As RT reports,

The first delivery of Russian Sukhoi fighter jets arrived in Iraq on Saturday, the country’s Defense Ministry said. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is hoping the jets will make a key difference in the fight against ISIS.


The Iraqi Ministry of Defense on Sunday confirmed receiving five Su-25 fighter jets in accordance with the deal with Moscow. The jets were delivered by a Russian An-124 transport plane in a dismantled state, and are expected to be set up and become operational within 3-4 days.


“The Sukhoi Su-25 is an air-ground support and anti-terrorism mission aircraft. In these difficult times, we are in great need of such aircraft. With God’s help, we will be able to deploy them to support our ground forces on a mission against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant militants within the next 3-4 days,” Iraqi Army Lieutenant General Anwar Hamad Amen Ahmed told RT’s Ruptly news agency at an airport receiving the jets.

According to Ahmed, Iraq will wage a “massive attack” on insurgents with the help of the jets.

“We have experienced pilots and other professionals. Our Russian friends have also sent their own experts to assist us in preparing the aircraft. All the logistics have been planned for as well,” the lieutenant general said.




At the same time, Maliki criticized the US for taking too long to deliver on its own contract after Iraq purchased F-16 jets from America.



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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:33 | 4909436 AKrandy
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Friends with benefits?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:37 | 4909446 zorba THE GREEK
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And what did we send our soldiers to Iraq to die for?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:40 | 4909452 Hugh G Rection
Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:42 | 4909469 LasVegasDave
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Those dumb arabs couldnt figure out how to operate US hardware; good luck with the Russian variant.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:50 | 4909494 Urban Redneck
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I don't have any personal experience with their jets, but for trucks and tracked vehicles, this isn't so far from the truth...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:01 | 4909532 Manthong
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What they really need are A-10 Warthogs.


Badass of the Week: The A-10 Warthog

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:06 | 4909548 ExpendableOne
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SU-25 == russian version of an A-10.  Low, slow, with a big gun(s).  Just wondering if these planes come with pilots.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:14 | 4909574 Manthong
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..was not aware they were that close, but it appears that the Warthog carries 5x more of those fun to fire 30mm gatling gun rounds.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:15 | 4909578 insanelysane
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1 rich friend is awesome.  2 rich friends that hand you weapons for some black liquid is priceless!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:20 | 4909591 Manthong
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Indeed.. but we should be outraged.. those are OUR terrorists those planes will be killing.


"Just wondering if these planes come with pilots."

LOL.. the big problem for them now.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:44 | 4909656 Headbanger
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AN SU-25 can kick the shit out of an A-10 air to air as it's 120 knots faster.

However, the A-10 carries about five times the rounds for its gun and is better suited for nap of the earth attacks on armor.

I'd rather be in an SU-25.

With my SKS and emergency standby bottle of Russian Standard Vodka of course.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:56 | 4909716 Manthong
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OK.. in a dog fight.. I agree..  but I don't think that is an issue here or when air superiority is enjoyed, or in this case no air threat at all.

No doubt they could kick a lott of butt.. as noted above, if they can fly the damn things.

I guess I'll just stick to my A-10, a six pack of Bud Light, and my AR.  :-) 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:06 | 4909793 Headbanger
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I like my ARs too.  Especially my custom AR in 7.62x39 if I'm flying over territory like Iraq where there's a lot more Russian ammo stashed away.

Nahh.. Then again... VZ-58

But I'll take my Colt Python over a Tokarev (and over my 1911) for a hand gun any day.

And it's regular bottled Bud for me.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:08 | 4909809 Crash Overide
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Bud Light? Really?   You put Bud Light in the same category as the Warthog?

The A-10 is at least worth a high end craft beer comparison...


Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:30 | 4912959 Manthong
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OK.. OK I'm losing the Bud Light (it was a weight and balance thing) for a six of Arrogant Bastard Ale.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 14:48 | 4910651 Rusty Loads
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"Indeed.. but we should be outraged.. those are OUR terrorists those planes will be killing."

Maybe not...remember Barry hooked them up with heat seekers at the Benghazi not so safe "safe house".

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:29 | 4909624 Tabarnaque
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I was thinking exactly the same. Those planes have to come with a Russian team to train the pilots and the mechanics. I would love to see the faces of the Russian team bumping into the US military advisors at the cafeteria...!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:15 | 4910826 Oracle 911
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I told you guys, the Russians will go in and clear up this mess. And it is halfway done.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 16:55 | 4911268 Bingo Hammer
Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:08 | 4909791 flapdoodle
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Russian weapons are actually meant to win wars, rather than just make the MIC rich which seems to be the real purpose behind US weapons.

Ask the Germans how well really sophisticated weaponery works in battle. One of the main reasons they lost Kursk is because the new overengineered Panther and Tiger tanks didn't make it in time and the timeline had to be delayed, allowing the Red Army to dig in. It also didn't help that the new Tiger/Panther wundertanks had serious teething problems. They had to be shipped to the front in railroad cars as they could only run so many hours before needing major maintenance.

Where are those F16s promised to the Iraqis by the US again? Please remind me, how many days ago did the Russians offer the Sukois to the Iraqis?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:24 | 4909878 Freddie
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LOL!  They figured out how to blow up a lot of Israeli Merkava tanks.   Israel is not too crazy about taking on Hezboolah man on man either.  Israel found Lebanon not very inviting last time.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:51 | 4911003 TheReplacement
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If there is any correlation to AKs vs M-# rifles then the Russian stuff will be easier and more reliable.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:41 | 4909466 ParkAveFlasher
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So, our weapons and advisors are going there, and Russia's weapons and advisors are going there, so, they'll be there together..........AWKWARD

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:58 | 4909528 kowalli
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nope, Russia's weapons and advisors protects Russia oil company...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:35 | 4910923 COSMOS
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Look up the Clash, When IVAN meets GI JOE

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:55 | 4909517 screw face
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Z the Greek....

.........FOR BANKERS!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:36 | 4909437 TalkToLind
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What the heck is an ISIS?  And why is the US MSM serving as the marketing department for ISIS (nightly mentions on all newscasts)?  I thought that privilege was reserved for US entities like GM, Apple, Facebook, sports teams, the Federal Reserve and the US gubermit.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:38 | 4909451 NoDebt
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ISIS is the organization of bad guys in the TV show "Archer".  That's all you need to know.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:48 | 4909486 replaceme
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ISIS are the good guys, ODIN are the bad ones... Barry the cyborg was ODIN. I think they also used to be Bluth Real Estate Dev. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:51 | 4909504 NoDebt
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Ah, that's right.  I've had a lot of trouble lately telling the good guys apart from the bad guys in remote parts of the world.  Apparently, it's spilled over to my television viewing.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:13 | 4909573 magpie
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ISISpapacy are the GOOD guys...but they should APPEAR to be the BAD you Americans TREMBLE in fear.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:39 | 4909453 magpie
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Meet Obama's next production, after Mu Bro's, here comes ISIS, feminist plus extra satanism - making the world safe for Hitlery.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:41 | 4909464 Ignatius
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"And why is the US MSM serving as the marketing department for ISIS (nightly mentions on all newscasts)?"

Weapons sales and a trifurcated Iraq, baby.  It's what's for dinner.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:11 | 4909823 ExpendableOne
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ISIS == latest incarnation of bad guys.  Most notable for having NO JAG officer corps....

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:27 | 4909902 Freddie
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No no ISIS are McCain and Nudelman's boys.   You will never get the truth on Benghazi because the Democrats and Neocons aka GOP-e were both totally involved with Deep State.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:31 | 4909919 Kirk2NCC1701
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ISIS includes Semitic* members, who ancestors used to worship the desert gods ISis, RA and ELohim.

* Semitic = Semites = Descendants of Shem (son of Noah), that includes a range of ME tribes, although modern PR machines and special interest lobbyists now use it as a euphemism for only one such tribe (the Self-Chosen Tribe) as a clever ploy to redirect and frame sociopolitical debate.

Long before there were corporate mergers and hostile takeovers, mergers and takeovers existed even in the realm of philosophy and religion.  E.g. these three deities (whether imaginary, or real space-alien visitors with advanced technology) were fused into one deity:  The winning warrior deity Elohim/Yahweh, who tolerated no others (per his self-appointed spokesmen).  For more info see "The History of God"

And for those who care to do some research on their own, it is fascinating and not at all an 'accident' or 'coincidence' that the parallels between the desert (Egyptian) god Osiris and that of Jesus of Nazareth:  Their birth, miracles, death and resurrection.  Except that the story of Osirirs precedes that of Jesus by many centuries, and was unknown to the Israelites of Jesus' era and location.

Likewise, as I have posted previously, Mohammed was even more successful in fusing the hundreds of gods of the Arabic tribes of his time -- with each tribe literally having their own god -- into 'One God'.  This process of "homogenizing and standardizing" is a prerequisite for mergers of tribes into a large Nation, and sets the stage for expansion via imperialist conquest.

It's tragic and horrific how much evil and blood has been spread in the name of ancient superstitions and self-evident philosophies that pass as religion of "divine" origin, i.e. as a World-view and an explanation of Life, the Universe and Everything.  And, if you think about it, it's ironic that so many people won't accept modern theories of Life and the Universe, yet will accept and mindlessly regurgitate the claptrap from long dead guys - guys of questionable hygiene and grade 4 education, at best. 

And to those Theists, who claim to represent The Truth, or to want only The Truth, I leave you with this ...

   "People claim to want the truth.  That's not quite true.  What they really want is 'truth' that is consistent with their world-view."

Once a person has (emotionally and psychologically) 'internalized' a view or model, their mental inertia becomes very strong and resistant to change -- even when faced with sufficient cognitive information.  Just try rattling the cage a person's world-view, and see them react in a primal manner, and adverse manner.  Theists are no exception, and are in fact a perfect example of aforesaid claim.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:50 | 4910040 Dublinmick
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The past really happened, history is just something somebody said and passed along.

The past is simply a lie that historians agree on ... Voltaire

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:57 | 4910369 omniversling
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Pure coinkydinky that there's a DC based military contractor called ISIS? Jam packed viewing and reading the show notes here (long black fabric/ninja suits):

ISIS EXPOSED 100% AS CIA OPERATION: "The Next Bin Laden is Here" - Don't Be Fooled


BOMBSHELL! Washington D.C based military contractor called ISIS! COINCIDENCE I'M SURE!:
ISIS Intelligence Technology Training

ISIS Illuminati Ploy

The Bride of 9/11 -- Scripted and Ready for Production

Cult of ISIS

Special thanks to Lenon Honor (9/11 Fear Based Mind Control)

FOLLOW UP: Comedy parody video on the ridiculousness of this scripted fear propaganda for new Boogeyman "Baghdadi"


Here is a PDF link update to the bill that was passed,

This amendment would legalize the use of propaganda on American audiences and was inserted into the latest defense authorization bill, This would "strike the current ban on domestic dissemination" of propaganda material produced by the State Department and the independent Broadcasting Board of Governors, according to the summary of the law at the House Rules Committee's official website. This little change to the bill would essentially neutralize two previous acts—the Smith-Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act in 1987—that had been passed to protect U.S. audiences from our own government's misinformation campaigns.

The US government has for many decades been allowed to dish out propaganda to foreign countries. But now, through this bill, propaganda that was supposed to target foreigners could now be aimed at Americans, reversing a longstanding policy. Bill was finally passed as part of the National Defense Authorization Act [NDAA 2013] HR 4310, signed by Obama on 12/29/2012. Pages 326-328.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:34 | 4909438 666
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Dismantled state? Sounds like a Heathkit!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:38 | 4909450 Cognitive Dissonance
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Just add aviation fuel and munitions and presto!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:54 | 4909510 One of We
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IKEA ground attack craft

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:37 | 4909445 Smiley
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Pay money for merchandise and get merchandise delivered promptly.  How ironic that Russia is upstaging the US in capitalism and customer service.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:39 | 4909456 PacOps
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A more satisfying "blowjob"?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:21 | 4909593 NotApplicable
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In Russia, red-tape cut you!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:31 | 4909917 Freddie
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The Russians deliver, the jets are not super fragile like USA stuff and no spyware to divert 777's to South Pacific islands by taking over the plane.

American hardware and software is filled with spyware, crippleware, hijackware and other shit.   Plus countries pay for stuff and American companies never deliver it.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 23:56 | 4912810 StychoKiller
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"What can Brown, er Red, do for you?"

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:37 | 4909447 Hugh G Rection
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I guess Dov Zakheim will have to give ISIS some f-16s now.  If anyone starts digging into the budget they can just blow up the budget analysts' office again.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:48 | 4909488 conscious being
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Hugh, you are relentless.

I like it.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:11 | 4909565 Hugh G Rection
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I'm not stopping until they give me gold or lead.  It better be a lot of gold though, learning the truth really pissed me off.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:43 | 4910956 COSMOS
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I wonder it the Iraqis can just cancel those F16 contracts and get all Russian weapons, maybe the Iranians need F16 parts and that is where they are going to get them.  Who knows.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:40 | 4909461 onewayticket2
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"Tell Vlad that in my second term, i'll have more flexibility"

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:40 | 4909463 paint it red ca...
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That was quick.


I guess somebodies satellites detected the column of luciferian sponsored forces moving into Iraq after all.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:41 | 4909465 undercover brother
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those fighters look like surplus with glued together parts.  doubt they even fly.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:43 | 4909472 Boeing Boy
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Stage one, defeat the Soviet Union (communism). That may have been an add-on as a claim for the spoils of victory for the mujahedeen in Afghanistan, but the Soviet Empire finally collapsed at the end of operations in Afghanistan. Whether we in the West claim the victory as we do, or our one time mujahedeen partners, the Soviet Union collapsed in spectacular fashion.
Stage two, defeat the West. This provides the foundation for my recommendations at the end. With our surrender of Iraq and our impending surrender in Afghanistan, the jihadists are considering the completion of stage two and it was a success. As nations who rely on what we consider to be high intellect and our morality, we felt that we own the high ground. Our support to islamist causes, whether it be humanitarian or disaster relief in Indonesia, Somalia, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Iran, or support to islamist combat operations in Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, now Syria, we have deluded ourselves to thinking that we have bought favor and potential alliances. I think the answer should be clear, is no. We have not. Rather in a stunning and brutally symbolic display, our hand of friendship to the muslim brotherhood was sliced off on 9/11/12 in Benghazi. No response from the West was the final signal, that our white flag was unfurled from dawn to setting sun. To fully ratify this compact with evil, hell we gave them 5 of their key players back, guys who have a list of atrocities so grotesque decorum prevents their listing here. What did we receive? A deserting lunatic, who thought he could change the world with a smile, what he found is the noble savage was high on savage, noble, not so much.
Stage three is what we see now. The caliphate. 10000 odd fighters from Syria and western Iraq rolling unopposed into Baghdad, collecting new and slightly used combat equipment to include rifles (only dropped once) armor, artillery and aviation assets. Sunni’s and Shia’s alike are deserting en masse from the conquering horde. Sunni’s who supported OIF are being beheaded alongside their Shia counterparts, other Sunni’s are shedding their uniforms and joining the ranks of ISIS. Will Baghdad stand, no, not for long. We have yet to fully see the bloodshed that will occur as the army of the jihad descends on the metropolis, and those who are unfortunately unable to escape will be killed in the most grisly extermination of humanity we will have ever seen, and yes, it will be seen. Southern Iraq will empty like a grade school on the last day of school, moving to sanctuary in Iran. With the home of the caliphate secured, the entirety of the middle east will fall into submission. The lines will be erased, the Arab empire will stand in its place with a very large collection of military gear that we and our Soviet antagonists have bequeathed over decades as we fought for influence in that important region. Israel will be in the fight for their lives.
Stage four is to defeat the apostates. Iran will fall. It will be genocide. We had a chance to spare Iran, but we turned our backs. The Iranian people will suffer for our inaction. Not the Ayatollah’s and the mullah’s, but the average Iranian who wanted to live like their grandparents, and dance to the Happy Song.
The last stage is the biggest and most dangerous enemy to islam, the Asians. Specifically, the Mongolian cousins; Japan, Korea and Mongolia. The warfighting skill and true brutality of the descendants of Genghis Khan are legendary. Japan nearly conquered all of North Asia, Southeast Asia and pushed the Americans out of the Pacific. What would the world look like today if the carriers had been tied to the docks on December 7th, 1941. The Korean Army and Marines were so feared by the North Vietnamese, they would kill themselves rather than surrender, and lastly, there is a 7000 mile wall that separates China from Mongolia. And it was the Khan’s who adopting islam to help govern their territories, would eventually seize the caliphate and form the longest standing empire. The Ottoman Empire, which lasted nearly 500 years until it was broken in 1922 at the end of WWI. Broken in part by Arab muslims who did not believe that the Turkish interlopers should command the caliphate of islam.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:59 | 4909531 xavi1951
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You left out what will happen to the Hindu.  They hate the Hindu and rank them lower than a dog.  It will be nasty.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:04 | 4909540 magpie
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" Southern Iraq will empty like a grade school on the last day of school, moving to sanctuary in Iran."

Lines like this show the manifesto was written by some pedo in the British Isles.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:32 | 4909611 NotApplicable
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Who the fuck is "we?"

You sound confused.

Oh, never mind, you've got a nearly three year old account with only 10 comments starting last week.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:05 | 4909771 Atomizer
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Boeing Boy.

I believe you would be hung on the spot in North Charleston. I'll bet Bosh in Summerville, SC would assist to your reference to Boeing. Don't forget about the General Dynamics pitch forks. You still have time to escape to Mexico. 

Run Forrest Gump, run.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:34 | 4909943 Freddie
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Hey Boeing boy - back to work making that shitty 777 that is filled with spyware and can be taken over and flown to Diego Garcia.  Junky shit filled with spyware, hijackware, ets.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:49 | 4909483 Boeing Boy
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Probably the most effective aircraft you could buy given the threat environment.  Akin to A10s but possibly better. 


I am sure the russian pilots will have fun.....

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:15 | 4909559 tony wilson
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you maybe called boeing boy but you sounds like a traitor and a faggot to me.

nuttin is better today than are flyin a10s and are flyin sr71s we rules der skys forevers.

not to mention der f22s and surperbs f35s

get in line soldier

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:17 | 4909580 Boeing Boy
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Is that why the entire A10 fleet is being retired, fuckwit.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:34 | 4909637 NotApplicable
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"Boeing Boy" has a nearly three year old account with only 10 comments starting last week.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:47 | 4909689 Boeing Boy
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You are the only one doing the trolling, time for afternoon meds?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:40 | 4909665 Overfed
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The A-10s are being retired because they are too cheap, effective, reliable, and easy to repair. That doesn't  synch with today's military yaknow.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:37 | 4909955 Freddie
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Pierre Sprey and 2 USAF colonels helped get the F16 and A10 built.  They were bargains and the USAF did not want them.    Sprey has said repeatedly that the F-35 is the biggest piece of shit going and the F-22 is not that much better.  If the F-35 gets hit with a .22 it will catch on fire and stealth is a scam.

Boeing Boy is making 777's which disapper to Diego Garco on fly by wire (connect to Deep State) to ensure that certain patents ends up with the Red SHield.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:53 | 4909715 Abitdodgie
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If America really wanted the Iraq Gov't to fall we would of sent them 10 F35 fighter jets because they are so reliable and do everything but NOTHING, they are the biggest pices of shit ever made.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:37 | 4909951 tony wilson
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boing boyz if youse dontes uddestand ironicals i cante help yer fellas.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:13 | 4910151 Atomizer
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Tony Wilson,  

I live 10 minutes from the airport. I live closer to the AFB. Alot of C17/C130 activities last week. Quiet today. When I was blogging yesterday, they have a few corporate jets. Two flew in yesterday evening. Thank goodness they don't fly over the house, You can see them preparing for landing as I gaze from my back yard. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:43 | 4910301 goldhedge
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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:48 | 4909487 MFL8240
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They fly and dont be surprised to see one in your backyard in a few months!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:42 | 4909467 NoDebt
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3 days from "we pledge our support of Malaki" to delivered jets.  THREE DAYS.  Obama couldn't figure out how to get Putin's phone number deleted from his speed dial list in three days.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:46 | 4909480 Dr. Engali
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It seems like it takes him that long to get done with a speech.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:07 | 4909556 Ignatius
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Lessons learned from Amazon.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:39 | 4909965 Freddie
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Putin is a man. Americans and Obama are cowards.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:42 | 4909468 Azannoth
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With "friends" like US/Israel/EU who needs Enemies ?!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:40 | 4909971 Freddie
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Egypt learned that lesson.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:43 | 4909470 newdoobie
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Oh man, what an epic backfire. The CIA is left scratching their heads.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:26 | 4909895 Crash Overide
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The Russians are much better at the whole proxy war, math, chess, programming thing...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:44 | 4909474 dbTX
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Another summer of peace, prosperity and recovery. That's foriegn policy Obamy can be proud of.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:45 | 4909476 I Write Code
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Pretty much means Russian pilots, right?  Munitions.  Targeting.

Take a week or so to put together.  And then what?  Attacking ISIS will probably also devastate Sunni neighborhoods where they're located.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:49 | 4909493 magpie
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ISIS as state department approved good guys TM don't use human shields

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:05 | 4909785 I Write Code
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Even if they don't explicitly use human shields, these old Russian weapons are not precision-guided munitions like the US mostly uses these days.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:44 | 4910313 goldhedge
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LOL. you sound ridiculus.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:39 | 4909660 Cthonic
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Iraq used to have these in inventory so they might have some (older) pilots.  Depending upon variant(s) and role, they'll likely need russian munitions.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:42 | 4909986 Freddie
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Syrian and some Iraqi too.

I wish the Iraqi people the best.  ISIS is there to carve up Iraq and weaken it.  They failed in Syria.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:45 | 4909477 Dr. Engali
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Well at least it won't be just our own equipment we are fighting the next time we invade.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:59 | 4909478 JNG
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The Russian made SU-25 most closey resembles the American made A-10 Thunderbolt/WartHog. 

One of the few bright spots of this mess is we should get to see some interesting gun camera footage!


"The Su-25 is designed to defeat small mobile and stationary ground targets and to engage low-speed air targets at the forward edge and in the nearest tactical and operational depth.:




The wings have ten pylons for carrying a range of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapon systems selected for the mission. Air-to-ground missiles include Kh-23 (Nato codename AS-7 Kerry), Kh-25ML (AS-10 Karen) and Kh-29l (AS-14 Kedge). The air-to-air missiles carried on the smaller outboard pylons are the R-3S (AA-2D Atoll) and the R-60 (AA-8 Aphid).

The aircraft can be fitted with UB-32A pods for 57mm S-5 rockets, B-8M1 pods for 80mm S-8 rockets, S-24 240mm guided rockets and S-25 330mm guided rockets.

The Su-25 can be armed with 350kg-670kg laser-guided bombs, 500kg incendiary devices and cluster bombs.

The aircraft's twin-barrel gun, the 30mm AO-17A, is installed in the underside of the fuselage on the port side. The gun is armed with 250 rounds of ammunition and is capable of firing at a burst rate of 3,000 rounds a minute.

SPPU-22 gun pods can also be installed on the underwing pylons. The pods carry the GSh-23 23mm twin-barrel guns, each with 260 rounds of ammunition.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:00 | 4909533 Atomizer
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How do they manage to keep the barrel cooled? Is it wrapped in dry ice?  3000 rounds / minute is a beast. Not a gun expert, just inquiring. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:54 | 4909718 headhunt
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Most likely Gatling style

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:09 | 4909811 Atomizer
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Thanks. I'm a retard when comes to these things. Hence the question.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:09 | 4909813 ParkAveFlasher
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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:17 | 4909855 headhunt
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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:57 | 4909734 Abitdodgie
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It can fire 300 rounds pm but it only has about 250 rounds on board.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:58 | 4909749 Cthonic
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Air-cooled, though there is a water-cooled variant.  If it's like ours, only short bursts are fired and barrel life probably is fairly limited.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:25 | 4909887 ChiangMai
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If the comment you are responding to is accurate...

"The gun is armed with 250 rounds of ammunition and is capable of firing at a burst rate of 3,000 rounds a minute..."

It can only fire at that rate for 5 seconds.



Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:03 | 4910098 Freddie
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There is a good video on Youtube about the Frogfoot.  An American guy talks about how he visited Russian airbases and the flightlines and runways are not in great shape with weeds etc.  He said Russian planes are like AK-47s in that they are not fragile.

He said when he was in the US Air Force - they constantly walked the flightline and runway to pick up any debris that could harm USA jets.  The Russian stuff is built to take punishment.  Pierre Sprey said the F-35 turkey will burst into flames if it gets hit by something as small as a .22 bullet or shrapnel.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:51 | 4910339 Protokletos
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I have a hard time being convinced that Russian planes are built to take more punishment than their American counterparts because you saw a video of a guy who noticed that the Russians were slobs.  

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 15:30 | 4910898 tony wilson
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we donte needs speeds soldier

we dontes need manuv



we dontes need to move arounds quick in der air all we needs is beliefs

in general electrics depleted uraniums

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:35 | 4911993 TheAnswerIs42
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IF you can find the parts, which aren't being made anymore...


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:46 | 4909479 Seize Mars
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Wow. Just wow.
Perhaps - maybe - every moron US serviceman who followed illegal orders and invaded this country will now start to ask some difficult questions.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:52 | 4909507 Boeing Boy
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Our troops in the UK knew they weren't illegal orders because army chiefs sough specific legal guidance from the Attorney General.  Only problem being, Attorney General initially declared invasion UNTIL Washington DC came for a visit and persuaded him otherwise on the eve of war.....

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:33 | 4909621 NotApplicable
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"Boeing Boy" has a nearly three year old account with only 10 comments starting last week.



Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:06 | 4910115 Seize Mars
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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:53 | 4910350 Protokletos
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We get it.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:47 | 4909481 MFL8240
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Russia moving in everywhere this fool fucks up!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:52 | 4909506 Urban Redneck
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Power abhors a vacuum.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:50 | 4909698 headhunt
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and these idiots suck so bad they create a vacuum.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:47 | 4910017 Freddie
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It seems like Putin and the Russians just treat countries in a fair and respectful manner.   Maybe the USSA should read that book "How to Win Friends..."  It sure seems like Putin has.

The USSA has scum like Nudelman and Jan Pataki and McCain - they sell out their own country - so they will sell out anybody like adulterer and dumbf*ck midget General Betray-US.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:55 | 4909513 NoDebt
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And that's a LOT of places.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:51 | 4909503 Cthonic
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Well, now we get to find out what sort of anti-aircraft and surface-to-air capabilities ISIS has, if any.  Might shine a bit of light on their benefactors.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:59 | 4909518 Boeing Boy
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Also depends on the training the operator's have received.  I wonder how good russian intel is, Stinger Manpad is a hugely capable weapon, I haven't had a recent look at the self-defence capability of the SU-25, anyone else in the know?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:03 | 4909536 kowalli
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stinger works only at height 0-3500meters...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:12 | 4909567 Boeing Boy
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You might want to check you facts there.  Stinger is simply less effective at heights greater than 10,000 besides SU-25 is a close air support aircraft.  A fair few have been brought down by Manpads in various operational theaters, I just wonder if the Russians have ramped up its defensive aids suite...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:34 | 4909638 NotApplicable
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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:44 | 4909673 Boeing Boy
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Ha ha, if only you knew. 


Manpads?  Oh, yes, I know a thing or two about Manpads..


I read this site to catch up with the economy, I am not an expert, but ask me if I have been to war sonny...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:45 | 4910004 SmackDaddy
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"been to war".  let me guess, air force logisitcs in Germany or some shit like that?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:54 | 4910055 Dublinmick
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Xbox does not count

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:50 | 4910033 Freddie
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Yeah just like the Boeing 777 airliner is a great plane just before in disappears without a trace (to Diego Garcia).  US shit is junk.  Filled with spyware, etc.

How is the software code on the F-35 coming?  LOL!  Written by Indians. A Slurpee machine would be more effective.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 00:23 | 4912853 StychoKiller
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"Good Ghandi!  Time for a champagne Squishy™!" -- Apu, "Simpson's Wrestling, PS2"

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:59 | 4909514 tony wilson
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eyes was speekin to general colon sphincter powell and david goldstein israel pet betrayous about this very thing yesterday.

eye told those fine masonic chaps that eye was very concerned about the power of the su25 and it's tack tickle ability to change the situation on the ground.

the kind gentlemen assured me that this plane is not technically a plane in the america british sense as it suffers from wood crotch frame rot.

from the damp weathers of vloddy vostok.

colon said tony look here i have the plan designs here for those flying mobile wooden bricks and be assured those wings will bend and drop off in the rain. that stuff will not last 10 mins with are isis cia mossad units on the ground.

i tried explaing that it does not rain in the desert but by then both men had gone off to rape some more young boys for some ancient eyes wide shut rabbi ritual.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:08 | 4909558 magpie
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There are inflatable dummies. Drapes on a VW Beetle, Wehrmacht secret.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:55 | 4909520 orangegeek
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great test run for drones vs fighter jets


even though Iraq is allegedly backed by the US

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 02:48 | 4913038 COSMOS
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Who is to say the SU-25s are not remotely flown??

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:03 | 4909773 zaphod42
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We tried that in Afghanistan.  And we ended up with al Qaida.  Wait a minute?  Wait a God Damned minute!  al Qaida is now supposedly [part of] ISIS?  What kind of shell game are we in over there???



Mon, 06/30/2014 - 10:57 | 4909524 czarangelus
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At least the Russian pilots won't be on Al Qeada's side.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:39 | 4909657 zaphod42
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Don't forget, we created al Qaida to fight Russia.  

So strange.  The left side of my brain just told the right side to shut up.  


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:05 | 4909545 Bastiat
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I think those ground attack jets would be hell on a Toyota pickup truck convoy.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:33 | 4909636 Flagit
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There may not be any left in 3 days.

Sunday, June 29, 2014

29th June IRAQ SITREP by Mindfriedo

29th June: Qassem Atta’s claims for today:
142 terrorists killed, 51 vehicles destroyed (no army in the world must be prouder of destroying its own looted equipment), 102 sorties undertaken.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:06 | 4909546 Iwanttoknow
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Becuase US/UK/Ihole is on ISIS side.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:10 | 4909821 zaphod42
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Does nobody in the Administration understand that ISIS asserts that they are the Islamic superstate, replacing pre-WW-I Turkey, and purport to have right to rule Egypt, Israel, Syria, Lebanon, most of Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Afghanastan, etc.?  I hope our Corporatist government figures that out, and thinks clearly before we start to see nukes flying over there.  And over here!  

They seem to have the delusion that if you throw enough money at it it will go away.  I don't think the central banks are going to be able to help here!


Tue, 07/01/2014 - 00:26 | 4912863 StychoKiller
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D@ammit man, there's illegal immigrant (oop, 'undocumented, potential Decepticrats!') children for Obamatron to round up -- no time for ISIL/ISIS!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:20 | 4909590 1stepcloser
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while you're at it ship in some SS-27 missles.  That will shift the balance of power...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:33 | 4909635 alexcojones
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Can we get a Russian version of "Top Gun?"

Starring Vlad Kilmer?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:37 | 4909649 zaphod42
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Just so I know I understand this correctly.  The government we spent more than a Trillion (with a "T") dollars installing, is being supported and defended against our enemies, the Talaban / ISIS / radical Muslims, by Russia, our enemy?  

So, she wants to eat me, and she is your friend, and your are okay with that?  

Why is Monday always so confusing?  I think I will go back to bed!


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:49 | 4910034 ThisIsBob
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Russia is not defending anything but Syria and now with a great excuse.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 13:13 | 4910126 Law97
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The battle lines are finally being drawn with clarity.  Russia supports Syria, Iran, and now Shia Iraq (a natural ally of Iran and Syria).  Hell, Maliki even invited Assad to bomb ISIS-controlled cities in western Iraq. 

The US government is finally facing up to the fact that they supported the wrong side during the Iraq insurgency/civil war and put the wrong guys into power.

The least bad option at this point is for the US to support ISIS, yes, ISIS.  The US could give them military support in return for a pledge that they will elbow aside the more radical jihadist elements.  If we're smart, and with a little luck, we could end up with a staunch, relatively secular, sunni ally state in the center of the middle east. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 14:40 | 4910612 BigJim
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Tue, 07/01/2014 - 00:34 | 4912875 StychoKiller
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The only thing that shifts faster than the sand dunes is political alliances in the M.E.!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 11:44 | 4909679 headhunt
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If your only means of governing is to threaten or buy allegiance, when you get out in the real world where your shit does in fact stink and your thugs are actually pussies, this is the results.

This administration and their local thugs have F'd up diplomatic relations with virtually every nation on the planet and most now laugh at us and piss in our coffee when given the chance. Thugorment.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:06 | 4909727 earleflorida
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FWIW Dept.:

 While staying at a Hotel on a business trip to the NE, I happened upon a few dozen if not more Pakistani AF Pilots being trained by the US. They were bused in at specific times each day and never left their rooms or quarters.(they never gave any eye contact or spoke other than their flight uniforms exposing their rank with a closely knit civilian entourage -- to close for [ISI]) my comfort)

Confused by their appearance?-- and, at that particular time in geo-politics, the USA wasn't in the bestest,` pro-Pakisatani mode, and yet, there we were training them to fly our 'state-of-the-art aircraft' at a strategic USAF base, under top security clearance.

My curiousity at what I had seen, beckoned me to query the proprietor/manager of the establishment, whom, by the way was Indian... what was going on? He politely laughed to himself and told me candidly that they rotate these Air Force Pilots and Logistical/Technical personel in and out monthly at his establishment and also through the grapevine, throughout the country!

Wow, I said to myself... quietly showing little emotion on my face other than, WTF!!!

This was ~ eight years ago, and it still goes on religously like clockwork (throughout the entire country), with other nations also coming in for flight/logistic/technical training.


Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:05 | 4909792 smacker
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Russia has learnt the Western supply chain process  "Just In Time".

All Iraq needs now are some pilots who know how to fly the SU-25...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:20 | 4909864 news printer
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The Iraqi government has wasted no time asserting its air supremacy by purchasing close to 90 Sukhoi-25 Fencers multi-role bombers from the Russian Federation and Belarus.  But who is going to pilot the jets?  Enter 400 retired Syrian Air Force pilots trained to fly Sukhois who will complement a few Iranians.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:32 | 4909932 JohnFrodo
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This is the biggest bunch of nonsense since WW1 or Gulf one.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:40 | 4909959 pupdog1
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Now the rags are trying to figure out why the instruction manuals say "Revell" on the cover.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:43 | 4909990 magnetosphere
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follow the oil peeps.  obama wants to overthrow the iraqi government because they signed too many oil deals with china

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:42 | 4909992 q99x2
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US vs. Russia and China. My bets are with Russia and China.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 12:53 | 4909993 TalkToLind
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Check out the newest release from the ISIS "marketing department":  

ISIS Mocks Obama in Latest Video:

These guys are good!  You're mad now, aren't you?   I really enjoyed video's background soundtrack with the auto-tuned chanting.  The video's smooth wipes, fades and slow motion effects were equally impressive.  And the white guy caught snapping pictures in one of the frames is PRICELESS.  Did the "marketing department" send out a Request For Proposal before this video was made?

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