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Ukraine President Declares End To Cease-Fire; Vows To "Attack & Liberate Our Land"

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As propogandists prepare their "it's the other guy's fault" press releases, Ukraine's President Poroshenko issued a statement declaring the cease-fire over...

  • *POROSHENKO SAYS UKRAINE TO END CEASE-FIRE IN EASTERN REGIONS
  • *POROSHENKO PLEDGES TO MOVE AGAINST REBELS, 'FREE OUR LAND'
  • *POROSHENKO BLAMES REBELS FOR FAILURE OF PEACE PLAN IN UKRAINE
  • *POROSHENKO SAYS MILITANTS VIOLATED CEASE-FIRE OVER 100 TIMES

Furthermore, his promise to "attack and liberate" the land and resumption of the "anti-terrorist" operations, means civil war is back on (and what appeasrs to be martial law) as he explains Armed Forces, National Guard, the State Border Guard Service, Security Service received appropriate instructions.


Full Poroshenko Statement (via Google Translate):

Address of the President of Ukraine Poroshenko

Dear compatriots!

On the twenty-second hour of Monday 30 June expired validity of a unilateral ceasefire.

Within the plan of peaceful settlement of the situation in the Donbas this step was first initiated on June 20.

June 27 Ukraine continued for an additional three days.

For ten days we have demonstrated the Donbass, Ukraine, to the world their commitment to peacefully settle the conflict triggered externally.

Residents of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, we demonstrated goodwill Ukrainian authorities. 

Hardworking and peaceful people, which is the vast majority of the citizens of Donetsk and Lugansk Oblast, feel our sympathy, love and respect. They saw a sincere willingness Kyiv ignore their special opinions and specific interests. And they realized that their safety is our top priority.

Become even more international support for Ukraine. It was during the ceasefire I signed the Association Agreement and the Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Area with the EU.

However, with a unique opportunity to implement the peace plan is not implemented. This happened because of the criminal actions of militants. They have publicly declared their unwillingness to support the peace plan as a whole and particularly the ceasefire. Defiantly, more than a hundred times, violated the armistice regime.

The political leadership of the separatist demonstrated unwillingness and inability to control the actions of their departments and the terrorist gangs of looters.

Annulment of the Federation Council for permission to enter the Russian troops in Ukraine was positive, but symbolic. We did not wait for concrete steps to de-escalation of the situation. Including in terms of strengthening control abroad.

Despite all this, the world was, is and will be my goal. Changing only the tools to achieve it. 

June 30 evening, a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine. After discussing the situation, I, as Commander-in-Chief, has decided not to pursue a unilateral cease-fire regime. 

Protection of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, safety and life of civilians requires not only defensive but also offensive operations against terrorist militants.

Armed Forces, National Guard, the State Border Guard Service, Security Service received appropriate instructions.

In achieving the objectives of the present protection of territorial integrity are no longer limited ceasefire.

We will attack and liberate our land. Non-renewal of the ceasefire - is our response to terrorists, rebels, looters. To all those who are making fun of civilians. Who paralyzing the work of regional economy. Who plucks the payment of salaries, pensions, stipends. Who undermines and destroys railroad plumbing. Who has deprived people of normal, peaceful life. 

The Armed Forces of Ukraine, National Guard, other units will not allow themselves to use force against peaceful people. They never beat on residential neighborhoods.

Ukrainian soldiers and guards will risk his own life, just not to expose threats to women, children and elderly men. All those living in the land of Donbass and does not in the hands of illegal weapons.

This age-old chivalrous nature Ukrainian army.

For us - and responsibility for every supporter peaceful life that do not bring God can break off during a military or anti-terrorist operation.

This requires us to extraordinary adjustedness every movement operations.

I appeal to every resident of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, asking to be taken with the understanding of my decision. Please become allies in return for security Donbass.

So, you can not resist the bandits physical strength. But your willpower and fortitude, your civil disobedience to the so-called "people's republics," the intolerance and contempt for those who took the path of banditry, looting and terror, bring the day when your homes, your streets back lasting peace .

Everyone who stood in the way of armed resistance to lawful authority, but realizing that mistake and wants to correct it, as president, I guarantee FAILURE to justice. Condition One - voluntarily lay down their arms.

Our peace plan as a strategy for Ukraine and Donbas, remains in force. And disarmament. And decentralization. And free use of the Russian language. And the restoration of housing by the state. And together with the EU program to create new jobs. And even before the ceasefire, we are ready to return at any moment. When we see that all parties adhere to performing the basic points of the peace plan. What gunmen freed the hostages. What and beyond the eastern border of red light on fire for saboteurs and arms supplier, and for adherence to the OSCE border monitors.

Dear compatriots!

The road to peace was somewhat more complex than desired. Do not want to embellish reality. It will be hard and difficult.

 

We, more than ever, we should unite to protect Ukraine. It requires dedication and discipline not only at the front but in the rear.

 

But there was not any war, after which there occurred a to peace.

 

So happens this time.

Glory to Ukraine!

*  *  *

Now we await the Russian response; the USA's retaliatory sanctions, and Putin's boomerang... with all eyes on Austria and Bulgaria (as the Chess game just got larger)

 

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Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:04 | 4911550 COSMOS
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Its not 'their' (EU, USA, NATO, Nazis, Monsanto, Cargill, Goldman Sachs, Nudleman's or the Polish Western Ukes) land its the land of the Eastern Ukrainians

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:20 | 4911650 johngaltfla
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06.30 1600 ET BREAKING NEWS: Ukraine Ends Ceasefire in East Declares Martial Law in Donbas Region

 

This is not going to end well. Obama is trying to drag us into this conflict. It is the stupidest bullshit I've seen since GW Bush dragged us into the Iraq invasion.

 

And now Obamussolini has sent even more combat troops into Iraq too!

 

US to Deploy 200 More Combat Troops to Iraq Bringing Total to Nearly 800
Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:22 | 4911662 knukles
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I can just hear it now...

Vlad "We've been attacked!"

Hey, some countries done less for an excuse.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:31 | 4911707 Millivanilli
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The gas lines will be attacked and it will soon be cut off to Europe.  Over in the middle east all hell is breaking loose.   

 

Perfect cover for the great reset.  It is here.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:40 | 4911749 Loose Caboose
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Yup ... it's on.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:46 | 4911768 MeMadMax
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Well of course he's gonna because Master Obi-bamma has decreed it so...

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:03 | 4911850 CrashisOptimistic
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Almost all cease fires are occasions of resupply and re-arm and re-configure troop emplacements.

One should presume the rebels used the time as well as the regular army.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:03 | 4912075 Bananamerican
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"For us - and responsibility for every supporter peaceful life that do not bring God can break off during a military or anti-terrorist operation.
It requires dedication and discipline not only at the front but in the rear. Love, president Mongo."
Google translate just makes it all seem more macabre

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:46 | 4912985 Volkodav
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There was no cease fire in real. None.

Kyiv never intended stopped kept shelling cities but demands other side should....

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 17:43 | 4915300 Sirius Wonderblast
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Nice for Putin to have those reserves tide Russia over - noticeably unlike the West.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:31 | 4911708 The Alarmist
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So what happens when they start to look to some of their historic lands to the west?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:24 | 4911676 Ignatius
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Unfortunate if the fighting escalates.

My only hope is that POROSHENKO dies as a result of his escalation.  Fat chance.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:12 | 4912339 Buck Johnson
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I know, I think he has made a major miscalculation and/or someone he is listening too is a moron.

 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 02:09 | 4913008 conscious being
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The "cease fire" offer was a joke. To wit-

You can put down your weapons and go home.  Unless we say you did something wrong.  In which case we are going after you.

No sit-down to discuss the issues, just straight to the artillary and helocopter gun ships.

This, after Vicky Kagan-Nuudleman threatend fire and brimstone if the previous elected president used any force to defend himself and his government from the mob of CIA/Mossad trained usurpers who eventually over ran Kiev.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:21 | 4911658 Deathrips
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Think it has anything to do with Gazprom pipleline shut off plan B?

 

MOPE...no gas is bullish!!

 

RIPS

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:25 | 4912377 Jack Burton
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Well said Cosmos. What we are seeing is a NATO invasion of East Ukraine. The goal is to liberate resources for western corporations, some of whom have already bought coal and steel enterprises in the east. This Kiev proclaimation of war is a sick joke and so full of lies and brainless shit that it hardly merits comment. No other response is possible by the East but the gun.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 07:12 | 4913202 luftmensch
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Jack, do you just do this for fun, or are you on Putin's payroll?

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 07:18 | 4913205 luftmensch
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Its not 'their' (Russian Federation) land, its recognized by the world as the soverign nation of Ukraine.  

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 22:57 | 4916423 luftmensch
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Putin's paid propaganda army is actively spamming ZH and other sites:

"Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine." (Forbes, May 11, 2014)

"within a few minutes of my posting of just about any Russia or Ukraine article on Forbes.com, the trolls flood the comments section with insulting, cajoling, combative, and ad hominem attacks, overwhelming the possibility of any meaningful dialog. I am not alone. The Guardian readers’ editor reports 40,000 comments a day by an “orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign” of pro-Russia trolling on Ukraine stories."

Ukrainian Facebook posting: “We have not killed one Russian, we did not take their land or introduce troops on their territory, did not grab their resources. We simply became a free people for one week. Is this enough for Russia to declare war on us with a unanimous decision and the full approval of the Russian people! Why do they hate us? Because of freedom? Because of different thinking?

"The highly professional poll shows an overwhelming majority of Ukrainian citizens want Russia only as a friendly neighbor with open borders and no visas. Some 12.5 percent want Russia and Ukraine as one country, reaching a high of twenty percent in the East and 25 percent in the Crimean south. An unoccupied Ukraine would not voluntarily join the corrupt and dysfunctional Russia."

"Yes, nationalists were among the bravest of the Maidan demonstrators, but they constituted a small minority...the latest polls show ex-heavyweight boxing champion, Vitaly Klitshko,  in the lead with the two right-wing candidates polling collectively  less than five percent – scant evidence of  an impending skin-head Nazi takeover." "There are no incidents of Ukrainian-on-Russian ethnic violence. There are no cases of Russian speakers in the east hiding in their cellars from the latest Ukrainian pogrom. Ukrainians do not feel hatred towards Russians." 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/03/10/putins-big-li...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/11/inside-putins...

http://www.ukrainianwinnipeg.ca/russian-propaganda-works-social-media/

http://news.msn.com/in-depth/russian-propaganda-war-in-full-swing-over-u...

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-propaganda-20140521-st...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:04 | 4911555 thataintnothin
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S&P will hit an all time high tomorrow on this news.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:31 | 4912605 Kirk2NCC1701
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You know we're in crisis & news overload, when even I am tempted to say: "Ukraine is so yesterday".

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:08 | 4911561 COSMOS
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I predict massive Russian artillery strikes and missile hits to break up any large mechanized calvary formations.  This is a repeat of the Battle of Kursk, the Russians had a huge artillery barrage to throw off the German offensive just before it got started.

The Russians have nothing to lose.  Nobody is paying or buying their gas in the west right now and the Euros have blocked the South Stream pipeline, last time I checked economic sanctions are grounds for a declaration of war.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:24 | 4911670 CPL
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I predict floods and poor crops.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:37 | 4912220 Anusocracy
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I predict that a lot of people who can't resist the siren call of the psychopaths will die and a lot of the psychopaths will get richer.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:55 | 4911799 Stumpy4516
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If Putin has been playing chess like many believe then he will have some surprises for the opposition.  If he is really playing chess he will have his follow up steps ready for the reaction he gets.

It's been said time was on Putin's side.  Now they have taken that away.  He will have reactions in the ME as well if he is the master player.

His opposition will not relent, he will have war or a slow decline.  Without a good response he will have to firm up his borders and suffer a prolonged cold war that will include all types of sanctions and NATO fortified on his western border.  Once EastUk falls they will retake Crimea.

A new phase may be beginning.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:54 | 4912283 flapdoodle
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With a Russia actively supporting its defence, Crimea is almost unassailable, and to boot would require a massive DDay style landing... good luck with that.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:01 | 4912508 401-Kulak
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Crimeans have been gob smacked with 300% inflation for food, energy,and water since Russia took over.  Russia has no chance of holding Crimea with a ferry based economy.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:35 | 4912616 Kirk2NCC1701
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And the Fed can't support the US with its Fairy economy.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:41 | 4912976 Volkodav
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Friends in Krim tell you lie.

Crimea is still celebrating.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 02:58 | 4913047 marriedgeordie
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Yeah, I know - like only a small fraction of the usual tourists showed up this year. Vam pizdez, Volkodav. Crimea will be either Ukrainian, or Tatar, or deserted.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:05 | 4912916 August
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>>>Once EastUk falls they will retake Crimea.

East Ukraine may be left to the (non-existent) mercy of Kiev-Galicia, but there is no way short of nuclear war that Crimea will wind up in NATO's sphere of influence.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:35 | 4912962 Volkodav
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Repeat of Battle of Kursk?   ignorant statement

 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 18:01 | 4915367 Sirius Wonderblast
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Try another perspective.

Right now it's warm, so domestic demand is down anyway. South Stream is for the future, when it will all have blown over and/or the lines redrawn.

In due course, come autumn (let alone winter), if the lines are shutdown, then Ukraine might find it's EU "frends" less than thrilled with their would-be vassals having caused them to have an eneergy crisis. I've already noticed articles here in UK softening us up for low voltage electricity, gas interruption and - hilariously - that prices must go up for our own good. That's in the relatively non-dependant UK, mind, not one of dependant continentals.

Thus, therefore, a big western economic hiccup if we're lucky. Meltdown if not - e.g short time working, transport disruption (all those nice clean electric trains running on gas generated 'leccy), etc. Good luck to Draghi et al fibbing and printing their way out of that one.

Thus also lots of very cold people across Europe, who will not be at all happy.

Then, theres the pissed-off Ukrainian squaddies posted to foxholes in some frozen part of East Ukraine so they can shoot their erstwhile brethren. Are they really going  to stick with that? I anticipate a major breakdown of the Ukerainian ability to wage Nato's war for it.

Putin does not need to roll his tanks, he just needs Obrainless and co. to carry on as they are now. I suspect he knows this.

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:08 | 4911567 vote_libertaria...
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Cease fire ended just as Q2 ended ?

 

Coincidence?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:27 | 4911685 giggler321
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Coco beans in Ukrain are also down today.  I doubt those residents of Donetsk and Lugansk care for it anymore.  I heard Nuland is handing out Hershey's kisses.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 02:16 | 4913015 conscious being
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Coincidence?  It must be, otherwise, unscrupulous insiders would make bank on it.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:08 | 4911570 Stoploss
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Get the bastard brigade ready.

Let's send some o those bad ass lesbians over there, that'll fix 'em.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:09 | 4911573 BandGap
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Is railroad plumbing part of the humanitarien aid being sent from Russia?

We appraoch the global crescendo. Cover your ears when you see the light flash.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:10 | 4911578 Not Too Important
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Cue more pipeline explosions. Pipelines that Russia no longer cares about.

Regardless of who's running this shitshow, it looks like only natural resource extractors with nukes (and I don't mean shale resources) are even remotely safe, and everyone else is circling the drain.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 00:07 | 4912826 The_Prisoner
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It has begun. Kramatorsk being flattened, it's a 160,000 people city!

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.in/2014/07/ceasefire-over-short-sitrep-from-juan.html

 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 07:34 | 4913219 tonyw
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My friends tell me the shooting did not stop, do you wonder why there are no western journalists there?

It's because they don't want anyone to see what is happening:

 

http://youtu.be/EJO4sYSkg-c

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:15 | 4911605 Kaiser Sousa
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and of course this will be ruinous for Silver and Golds phony paper prices tonight and tomorrow morning....

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:14 | 4911606 Atomizer
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Google glass predators.

ABE - Short Film

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:54 | 4911609 kowalli
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The Nazis and Poroshenko has The only way to win the war  -  raze large cities and kill all people inside

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:15 | 4911612 Seize Mars
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Let me translate this:

  • *DAVID ROCKEFELLER AND LORD ROTHSCHILD SAID POROSHENKO SAYS UKRAINE TO END CEASE-FIRE IN EASTERN REGIONS
  • *DAVID ROCKEFELLER AND LORD ROTHSCHILD SAID POROSHENKO PLEDGES TO MOVE AGAINST REBELS, 'FREE OUR LAND'
  • *DAVID ROCKEFELLER AND LORD ROTHSCHILD SAID POROSHENKO BLAMES REBELS FOR FAILURE OF PEACE PLAN IN UKRAINE
  • *DAVID ROCKEFELLER AND LORD ROTHSCHILD SAID POROSHENKO SAYS MILITANTS VIOLATED CEASE-FIRE OVER 100 TIMES
Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:25 | 4911677 tbd108
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I agree however you forgot to mention the Vampire Squid seconding the whole business.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:48 | 4911773 Seize Mars
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So have they gotten their IMF money yet? Remember it was conditional on having a shooting war.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:51 | 4912661 tsuki
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Yes, a couple of days after R. Hunter Biden joined Burisma Holdings' board.  Oligarchs must be paid.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:57 | 4912490 401-Kulak
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Putin said Seize Mars says.....

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:15 | 4911621 Global Hunter
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did the shelling of suburbs, markets, factories, water treatment facilities, electrical grids ever even stop during the "cease fire"?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:19 | 4911637 kowalli
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nope, Nazi just said pretty words about cease-fire to public

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:31 | 4911705 Global Hunter
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Sadly I knew the answer to that because I am following.  

My wife bought me a Russia Football Federation hat for the world cup even though we are not Russian, it breaks my heart what our government is doing to Russians and Ukrainians. Wearing the hat proudly was one of the few forms of protests I can come up with.  They try to villify Russians in my media and make Russians out to be evil sub humans and I thought "fuck it somebody has to go against this attitude and mental illness".

Some of my best friends were Russian and Ukrainian and they have influenced me greatly.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:39 | 4911741 kowalli
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We know about your media in Russia. We have the same media as you have, because they get money from same source,like 90% of all news agencies in the world. 2 our channels telling about 50% truthful news and others keep lying.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:32 | 4911712 mrblah
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Of course it did. By government Soldiers anyway.

Those right sektor volunteers on the other hand, who just happen to be using government owned artillery and fighting with/along-side government soldiers - nobody mentioned anything about them holding off.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:30 | 4912398 Jack Burton
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No, shelling continued every day of the cease fire and people died most every day. Also, large military units moved into position for attack under cover of the cease fire. Moscow followed these attack preparations, that is why you read in the press of new Russian units nearing the border. What we can only wait for now is how much killing Moscow will accept by Kiev. The domestic political situation in Russia is white hot with anger over Russia doing nothing to help the 8 million East Ukrainians. Putin knows that pressure, we can only guess how he will respond.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:53 | 4912476 mrblah
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lol, I was being sarcastic. but yeah, it definitely never stopped.

Though, telling the difference between govt/pravy sektor and the oligarch igor's lot is now virtually impossible.

At the beginning pravy sektors "soldiers" wore a distinct 'uniform' now they wear the same as the Ukrainian armed forces.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:55 | 4912481 401-Kulak
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Country with the GDP of California is going to do what!?!

Putin is a dead man walking and dont even know it.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:09 | 4912532 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Another typical Banderatard meaning nothing reaction comment.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:01 | 4913049 marriedgeordie
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Another typical Putin's dick-sucker talking shit. He is fucked, man, seriously. Change your allegiance before it is too late.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 05:06 | 4913121 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That is a nice world of fantasy you are building here.

Unable to connect with reality...

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:24 | 4912948 Volkodav
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goat talkings

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:17 | 4911635 teslaberry
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RELEASE THE KRAKEN!. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:22 | 4911661 gatorengineer
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Sorry Kraken occupied at this time, he will be with you as soon as he finishes his Obowel movement.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:21 | 4911653 kowalli
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People in shelter now,Kramatorks -he is telling about 6 waves of shelling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_UUckPB9dUM

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:23 | 4911671 are we there yet
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Here are five key bullet points to know about the current crisis in Ukraine:

 

  1. 10 million Ukrainians died in the Soviet made famine of 1932 -1933 while at the same time, areas in Eastern Ukraine were settled by Russians. These Russians currently represent about 35% of the population in eastern Ukraine; 
  2. Pro-Russian forces with unmarked uniforms appeared in Crimea to "protect the rights of Russians from Ukrainians" while in reality Putin was after the Oil and Gas deposits offshore in the Black Sea which may be worth  trillions of dollars;      See: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/world/europe/in-taking-crimea-putin-gains-a-sea-of-fuel-reserves.html?ref=world&_r=1; 
  3. The Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine want to confiscate the Shale Oil and Gas deposits and other Ukrainian industries. These tyrants want to control  the Ukrainian assets for their own benefit with Putin's help, 
  4. This  land grab  and property confiscation by Russia  of Crimea is against all international agreements which have been signed by Russia, Britain, the USA and the international community; and finally, 
  5. If it wasn't for the unmarked Russian troops and their apparatchiks, Crimea would still be part of Ukraine; since, only 15% of the population of Crimea voted to separate from Ukraine and become part of Russia. 
  6.  Overall, the Russian strategy, past and present, is to continue to use energy, finance and overt and covert actions to undermine the Ukrainian government and usurp its power.

 Keep in mind that Ukrainians are not Russians just like Americans are not English/British.

 

 

 

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:31 | 4911682 kowalli
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Fuck you, keep in mind burned people alive in Odessa by ukr-nazi and about 2000 killed people from ukr-nazi shelling

Crimea had  referendum twice - 1991 and now,2014, to be free from ukr- occupation.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:57 | 4912492 UGrev
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One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. 

Fuck the Russian pieces of shit! 

America got bloody as well, trying to escape a tyrannical government. Are you going to start running numbers on our revolutionary toll on the British Army now too? 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:22 | 4912944 Volkodav
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stupid post

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:49 | 4912988 UGrev
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Why? because you're butt hurt that Putin, while he has balls, is just a fucking guilty as the rest of the world when it comes to this shit? Gooooo fuck yourself too. 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 05:18 | 4913123 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Kievan Yatzi Junta Citizenists are duplicitous at heart, they do not want to be associated with the harmful consequences of their decisions.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:29 | 4911696 suteibu
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Oh...you mean like Americans are not Mexicans?  Or does it all have situational meaning depending on the desired outcome?  Explain that for me.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:39 | 4911744 jusman
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A little balance in the discourse that the "west" is totally evil, and Putin, because he is a master at the game, is to be admired, is welcome on this site.

Now for the down arrows!

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:43 | 4911761 kowalli
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People own the land not somebody else and Crimea had  referendum twice - 1991 and now,2014, to be free from ukr- occupation. You can just GOOGLE this if you don't believe me.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:45 | 4912029 marriedgeordie
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There was a referendum in Crimea in 1991 - the majority voted for independent Ukraine then. What happened in 2014 was a mockery, and Putin shall answer for that.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:50 | 4912267 kowalli
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so the all people die after 1991 or what? LOL

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:02 | 4913051 marriedgeordie
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Could you translate this into English, please? I do not speak Nonsense.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:50 | 4911780 suteibu
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Because the truth is in there somewhere.  Your balance is designed to make sure the truth is not found.  Who spent $5 billion to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine?  The US started the shit or are we supposed to overlook that fact to find balance?

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:16 | 4912931 luftmensch
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exactly, if you commie lovers find Putin so sexy, why don't you move to Russia?  Do right-wing nut jobs hate America now??  Are there just a bunch of virtual Russian operatives trying to brain-wash whoever they can find on the political fringes?  I've noticed on Russia Today and other kremlin news sources, they find every political fringer with something bad to say about the U.S. now...

You know, at some point you go past being a "patriot", or critical thinker or whatever, and just become a traitor.  America may have its problems, but if you really think you hate it so much, you probably havnt travelled the world much.  

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:19 | 4912936 Volkodav
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useless talkings

better worry about your own country

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:24 | 4912949 The_Prisoner
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It seems you are, indeed, made of air, as your username suggests.

What did Jen Psaki wear to the office today?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:00 | 4911833 Haager
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Are you pointing out ethnicity here? Did you realize that Europe (as I do think of the EU, not the ordinary people)  is by far mostly interested in the very same ressources and that they don't care about you, the people, unless you're willing to work hard like a slave for  €2-5/h (if you get paid) in one of the western countries?

But I guess you know it, and that you're hoping to have a profit on the back of others by entering the EU, ignoring that your claims about what Russia wants is only slightly different from what the EU wants, in their hunger for ressources they don't have yet.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:24 | 4911936 kowalli
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Russia is the only country that have all ressources...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:43 | 4912024 marriedgeordie
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Good one. You forgot "Putin - Huilo". May God be with our troops, and may those separatists be wiped out and sent back to Russia in freezers.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:25 | 4912575 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The remark is stupid and reeks of Kievan Yatzi Junta Citizenism.

Ah, I forgot, you are a Banderatard, so you are used to discarding the negative consequences of your actions onto others.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:04 | 4913054 marriedgeordie
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Google the definition of junta, you ignorant piece of shit.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 05:24 | 4913126 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Nice. Wooo, so relieving.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:35 | 4912411 Jack Burton
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Fucking Shale Oil! Jesus that is a joke, right? Is our State Department that desperate for bullet point! Here is a bullet point. Soviet Communists killed more ethnic Russians than any other ethnic group during Soviet rule. Stalin was a Georgian, most of his government were non Russian including head of KGB.

 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:02 | 4912912 luftmensch
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What is it with the pro-Russian slant on this site?  You hate America so much you just automatically take the enemies side?  Have any of you who down-voted this actually spoken to a Ukranian?  You really think Ukranians want Russia to take over their country again?  Guess you also think the Tibetans like being over-run by the Chinese?  Russia has a massive military and simply likes to use it sometimes to take things, sometimes its that simple.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:15 | 4912929 Volkodav
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Every Ukrainian and family I know is against the Kyiv overtake of Ulraine.

All speak Russian, especially in business.

They know real historic Ukrainians (not Pollacks) and Russias are close people.

All want the Kyiv monsters kicked.

They are not particularily "pro-russian" but know Russian was sincerely helping Ukraine with

subsidies and patience.

They also do not confuse history, but know the real

Not the false western versions from schools and media propaganda

Your post is ignorant

 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:23 | 4912946 luftmensch
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Every Ukranian I know finds this to be an ugly business, and just wants peace and opportunity in their lives. Being "close" people does not mean they want war or domination. Russian "help" never comes without strings... How do you know the "real" yourself -- at least in the West journalists can say what they think without being silenced, there is no free Russian media inside Russia.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:31 | 4912961 The_Prisoner
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Michael Hastings disagrees.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:17 | 4912930 The_Prisoner
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There is no pro-Russia stance. There is, however, an anti-Empire stance, which gets confused with anti-US, for reasons I do not need to address.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:34 | 4912967 luftmensch
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Dudeski, the "empire" in this case is the Russian empire.  If you want to be anti-Empire, then ask wtf Russia is doing in the soverign nation of Ukraine?   

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:47 | 4912986 The_Prisoner
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You're suffering from Psychological Projection. Look it up, you might qualify for SSI and be able to quit working as an internet troll.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:04 | 4912918 Volkodav
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Useless lies.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 06:18 | 4913152 alus
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And one more thing:

7. Ukrainians "heroes" killed more than 100.000 Poles (mostly innocent civilians) in 1943 on the area given them after WW2 by Stalin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_...). The same - some lands were  Hungarian before. Crimea was Russian since 300 years , as Donietzk and near lands. So maybe if they think this land is "occupied" so what about eastern part? Isn't it occupied by Ukrainians?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:23 | 4911672 Seize Mars
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The are going to "color revolution" the United States as well. They did it to all the others.

Get ready. They are!

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:26 | 4911680 Jason T
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ARMSTONG!!!

 

Guys war model is on target.. by 2020, whole world should be in a war .. economics and war bitchez go hand in hand.  Sovereigng debt crisis big bang next year.. that'll do it.

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:30 | 4911703 mrblah
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Long FTSE100/DOW

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:36 | 4911730 goldhedge
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So the "cease fire" was to allow re-positioning of troops to better strategic locations.

 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:02 | 4912911 Volkodav
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There was no cease fire.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:36 | 4911732 Son of Captain Nemo
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Every American needs to see this and this and ask themselves if they are any less crazy then this guy for allowing it to get this bad?...

When you think about it, it makes perfect sense that a Republic full of sociopaths could only be stupid enough to elect a psychopath two... no... four times!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:39 | 4912425 Jack Burton
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Nice Captain Nemo. Do you follow the Facebook page "South Front"? This is a Self Defense Forces support page. Lots of combat information daily and some videos.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:51 | 4911784 Haager
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 '... And together with the EU program to create new jobs.´

 

LMAO. Give me a break. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:25 | 4911940 NoPantsSpongeBob
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Like they did in Spain, a low 25% unemployment rate. Great success!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:57 | 4911806 czarangelus
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There was never any ceasefire; the duplicious sacks of Zionist shit running the show have been shelling Novorossiya non-stop this entire time. They're just signalling the beginning of their next major offensive, which will hopefully meet the fate of the last one.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:43 | 4912442 Jack Burton
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Martial Law has been declared to give cover to Right Sector gangs to shoot civilians and claim them as looters or separatists.

Also, western media is reporting this Ukrainian attack, that means it is officially sanctioned by Washington and Washington wants the American people to know that America's Kiev Army is on the march. US media has been silent for two months, now they have woken up. This means Washington is behind this attack and expects it to be a NATO victory. That makes me hope the Self Defense Forces kick their asses for drill. Though that will not be easy when outnumbered 20 - 1. and 100 to 1 in vehicles.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 18:57 | 4911811 Oldrepublic
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re: martial law

How can the Kiev regime declare martial law in areas it does not control?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:01 | 4911837 kowalli
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They declare to have star-army and what? They are telling this full bs everyday...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:54 | 4912063 Optimusprime
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Consider the Emancipation Proclamation.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:31 | 4912201 NotApplicable
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That's rayciss!!!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:45 | 4912448 Jack Burton
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Indeed! Very good point.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:26 | 4911840 Circle of DNA
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Nuland demands an immediate return of her cookies, every last crumb of them.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:45 | 4912451 Jack Burton
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Fuck that Israeli Nuland bitch!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:01 | 4912027 earleflorida
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In 1917 the Bolshevik's led by Vladimir Lenin had taken complete power and control of Russia. Unfortunately?, in 1924 Lenin dies and Stalin ascends into the power vacuum as the new undeniable leader!?! When Joeseph Stalin died, or was murdered in 1953, Nikita Khrushchev was one of two (President and Premier as not to have so much power in one man's hand [Stalin scared the shit out of the Politburo?]) replacements.

 Nikita was born on the Ukrainian border and started his political career in the Ukraine. He loved the Ukrainian people and loathed Stalin for the slaughter of so many of the USSR's own... especially those in his beloved Ukraine. He called Stalin a 'Barbarian'... a 'Butcher'!!! I wouldn't [jmo] doubt that Khrushchev was the 'black-hand' in the tyrants death. The Russian people hated Stalin but the western allies were not getting the whole truth from America's MSM which basically hid the genocide that was going on in the 'great eurasian breadbasket'... known then and today as the Ukraine!

Here's my point! The Russian's own Master`Savior, Joseph Stalin was complicit in the 'Genocide of Holodomer', where in Kyiv, Ukraine is the Holodomer Memorial, hidden from the world until long after WWII. Not only did Stalin order his troops to fight to the death... but, once they surrenderd to the enemy and the German's didn't kill them, those lucky enough to have survive were executed for cowardice by the hundred[s] of thousand[?s] throughout Europe! Nice!!!

Ref:        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor                                Note: Navigate sidebar for 1932-33 Holocaust?Famine       

http://holodomorct.org/index.html    

and this,    "Rothschilds' CFR and the Ukrainian Holodomor of 1932/33                       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW0wIJR2LY4                    Lastly, Russia is not the same as in Dec/1991 when the USSR dissolved. It's been a quarter century since the 'Cold War" ended, and yet Russia has done nothing but remain peaceful and cooperative in the NWO. It was the psychopathic communist Bolchevik Party that created all the last centuries problems, period! They're all dead, and good riddance! Yet, Washingtons Neo-Cons can't get it out of their numb fucking skulls that the world is changing and the USSA must play as a partner, and not as the dealer and house!!!  

Putin is a`OK with me... just read the links, and feel the western alchemist`propaganda form their mare's`nest upon which... 'all things to all men', ad`absurdium?!?  

thankyou Tyler

 jmo

thankyou Tyler 

 

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 19:56 | 4912073 marriedgeordie
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Ukrainian artillery and air force are translating this message to those "fighters" as we speak - many will not live to see the dawn. Glory to Ukraine!

And to all the Putin-supporting RT-lies-watching trolls here - FUCK YOU!

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:13 | 4912114 shovelhead
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So you married a geordie so you wouldn't get deported back to Ukraine.

Were you a mail order bride?

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:10 | 4913064 marriedgeordie
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Personal attack, classy. Good one, seriously, tells a lot about you. I am a dude, well-educated and well-respected in my profession, who has lived in four countries and visited about 30 so far.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:33 | 4912211 Aaron Hillel
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Yes, the brave ukr artillerists fire their irons into civilian areas, because

A.Its easy to hit (you can fire on azimuth and be sure to kill some women that try desperately to get food for their starving families)

B.Our ukie heroes does not risk to be counterbatteried into dust(yet) , as partisans have very little counterbattery-capable systems.

 

But as you are such a bad rezun, and CNN-truth-watching patriot, feel free to come to the forest belts west of Slavyansk, Im sure the newly reconstructed Aidan will welcome you with open arms, they start to have trouble with recrutement from what I' ve heard.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:50 | 4912463 Jack Burton
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The video of the destroyed Aidan troops was quite instructive!

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:19 | 4913073 marriedgeordie
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I prefer the one where over 30 bodies of "volunteers" are delivered back into Russia in a freezer.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:32 | 4912402 The_Prisoner
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"Glory to the Ukraine, to the Heroes Glory" is the call from the Ukrainian followers of Stepan Bandera.

You have shown your hand, 21st century Nazi.

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 22:30 | 4912598 TheFourthStooge-ing
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If Banderatards made sense, that would be a story...

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:06 | 4913058 marriedgeordie
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Eh, no, this one is from 1918. And, here is a question for you. If Ukrainian government is Nazist, how come all European Neonazis support Putin these days? Touche, fucker.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 05:33 | 4913133 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Banderatards can't even account for basic, obvious facts. They can't. They have totally grown dependent on propaganda, on spinning and spinning. They can't do otherwise.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:47 | 4912454 Jack Burton
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When does your plane leave? They need your help in this fight, no?

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 00:55 | 4912904 Volkodav
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Are you Polish?

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:08 | 4913059 marriedgeordie
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No, I am Ukrainian, who wants Russia to stick to its own affairs instead of sending tanks and "volunteers" to Ukraine. I can promise you we can be good neighbours, if you stop fucking up my country.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:28 | 4912955 luftmensch
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Starting to think this site is actually owned and operated by the KGB / FSB. Did they take over this site like VK?

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:16 | 4913070 marriedgeordie
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Yes, they did. I come here occasionally on days like this to throw shit at them and laugh. After all, they are just a bunch of self-absorbed double-thinking (using the word thinking here would be too much of a flattery to them) imbecilles, incapable of basic logic. Just a couple of questions you can throw at them here:

- If you are so against the supposedly police state Obama created in the US, how come you support Putin?

- If the new Ukrainian government is fascist, how come all the neonazis in Europe support Russia instead of rallying behind Ukraine?

- Can you name at least one Russian puppet state that managed to prosper, like EVER? I can name you at least five former pieces of the Russian Empire that are prospering now because they managed to break away from Russia. 

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 05:36 | 4913136 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The denial of facts required by Kievan Yatzi Junta Citizenism citizens as a sign of submission is now way beyond the scope of ignorance.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:01 | 4912082 Aaron Hillel
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The muppet Porchenko read the declaration sent to him , and probably doubled the guard of loyal troops(if he ever had any, which I doubt) around his bunker.

He promises an offensive to retake his blablablabalalaika.

Lets have a brief look at what his army, stiffened by Polish and American mercenaries accomplished as of yet.

Tactically, they managed to kill a certain number of novos partisans, all the while losing vast quantities of vehicles, helicopters and -advisors-, its a stalemate bordering on defeat.

Operationally, the managed to be stopped at all schwerpunkts, taking the village of Krasny Liman, then losing it 2 nights later.Also, vast quantities of troops/cadres from the regular army defected either to Russia or even worse to the partisans.The offensive between the 2-12 May have gutted mercenaries will to fight, as they saw they definitely cannot count on native Ukr troops, accessorily costing them heavy losses when their charges ran away or surrendered on the spot.

Even Dziewulski managed to get himself encircled briefly, and that was particularly rich.

Lets not talk about the antics of sektor mob in their nice fresh uniforms, running like headless chickens into ambushes and taking their angst on civilians.So operationally we can conclude to a stalemate, with more than a whiff desagregation.They exist as long as their artillery is supplied and fires.

Strategically...depending on the objectives, its either a costly stalemate (if the war objective is to bring Mr.Putin into a shooting war) , or a cataclysmic defeat (if the objective is to retake Novorossiya by Ukr hands alone).

In my opinion, they always have the option of forcing Putins hand into the war, for exemple by using a Soviet style gas attack,or firing their LR artillery into russian territory then running home crying that bad russians are coming.And of course denying everything afterwards, to the chorus of , lets politely say, zionist medias.

And winter is coming.

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:13 | 4912111 intric8
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"Free our land?" great! Free it of all foreign influence! Fucking hypocrite poroshenko

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 03:21 | 4913076 marriedgeordie
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Last time I checked, Russia is a foreign influence to Ukraine. And now they have come to fight. Poroshenko's response is entirely warranted here.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 05:40 | 4913138 TheFourthStooge-ing
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More fantasy, more empty talking.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:15 | 4912128 lindaamick
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Read some of the first hand stories of the people in Eastern Ukraine being killed for nothing. 

People can look at any situation from 30K feet and theoritize this and that but the truth is that eastern Ukrainians are being bombed, maimed and killed over some elites' greed and pure evil.

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/06/situation-report-evacuees-from...

 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:20 | 4912151 shovelhead
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They're getting killed because they're Eastern Ukranians.

Porky wants his money.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:17 | 4912140 shovelhead
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Chocolate Rain.

Google Translate makes Porky sound like Boris Badenov.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:25 | 4912174 NOZZLE
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Get the explosive stuffed car bombs cranked up and make those nazi pieces of shit in Kiev bleed out of their ears.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:41 | 4912222 NoWayJose
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Overheard in Kiev - "Damn that swine Putin for bypassing our pipelines. Now our Western handlers are forcing us to escalate our attacks in Eastern Ukraine to draw a response from Putin. This will end badly,"

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 20:52 | 4912278 Ivan Nokabolokov
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200k gets you a lot of real estate underground...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2575623/Yours-200-000-Nuclear-bu...

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:17 | 4912352 Jack Burton
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This is no surprise. The fake cease fire was only meant for a quiet time to move tank divisions along the border to cut off the Self Defense Forces and to bring in new rocket and artillery units to the west of Self Defense Force postions. A classic hammer and anvil attack was planned and it needed time for the proper units to be activated and brought into position. Now that preparations were made during the cease fire, the attack is moving out. If you had been reading the Self Defense Forces social media, you would know that they were following these movements and expecting this attack. Their proper role is to use reactive defense and to ambush. During the cease fire they made two successful ambushes on the Right Sector Units and smashed one completely.

The leader of the SDF has warned of Kiev's plan for mass artillery and tank attacks. One can only hope Russia has allowed enough anti tank guided missiles to get into SDF hands. In infantry combat the SDF has proven much more capable and motivated than the Ukrainian Army or the Euro Maidan thugs brigades. Thus Kiev is hoping tanks and artillery can win where infantry has failed. I expect Kiev's losses to be in proportion to how many modern anti tank weapons the SDF has gotten.

Make no mistake. NATO planned this entire military operation and the CIA provided intelligence for it. While US State Department has provided the hard cash to pay troops and restock ammunition. This is a direct NATO attack on East Ukraine.

The SDF is playing it's cards close to their chest. They have made out that they might not be able to survive this all out Kiev attack. Yet morale is sky high amoung the soldiers. This makes many wonder whether the SDF commander is leading Kiev's gangs into a death trap. Time will tell. Kiev has plenty of US money to play with, what they lack is motivated troops, except for their Maidan Nazi's who are motivated but totally outclassed in combat by the SDF.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:23 | 4912372 The_Prisoner
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Jack, what do you make of the sporadic reports about Polish fighters? Are they contractors or Polish Army? If one is captured alive it could put Nato on a bind.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:52 | 4912473 Jack Burton
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I heard one Self Defense fighter say that they had heard Polish spoken over the air during Jet Fighter attacks. He believed some of the fighter bomber pilots were Polish, perhaps flying on contract for money. Other than that, I have only heard of a few polish who joined the Right Sector units forming up as the new National Guard.

Tue, 07/01/2014 - 01:08 | 4912920 luftmensch
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Are you like the new head of the Russian booster club? I take it you're Russian ex-pat and getting your news from Russian language sources?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:30 | 4912399 Ragneur
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 I love when the evil empire writes these types of speaches for foreigners to read. They think they are so clever but always give themselves away by using terms like beat on in the delusion their slang is used universally. When William Hague said to us Brits that this isn't a zero sum game I had to google the term.

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:53 | 4912479 401-Kulak
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"speaches" "...us Brits"??!?

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 23:08 | 4912710 Ragneur
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It was my first ever post and the text size is rediculouly small. My first ever post pissed all over my second ever post. 

Mon, 06/30/2014 - 21:57 | 4912491 Jack Burton
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That is a good point Ragneur. They do indeed give themsleves away by their words.

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