"What Do You Want For Free?"

Tyler Durden's picture

Via Martin Armstrong of Armstrong Economics,

Why shouldn’t the rich pay more taxes?



There are not enough billionaires to pay the bill for everyone else. Job growth since 1948 in government reached 310% in 2009 compared to 170% in non-farm private jobs. Male job growth has increased only 65% since 1948 on par with population growth while female job growth has increased about 135%. Women won the right to work, but lost the right to stay home.

The problem is NOT that the rich do not pay enough, it is that government takes too much from the economy as a whole. You can listen to the propaganda all you want and believe they will only target the rich. But they ALWAYS go after everyone. There are videos of IRS agents dragging pregnant women out of their cars leaving them on the streets and confiscating the cars. The latest is taking your money claiming some family member owed them money.

My point is not to protect the billionaires – it is to protect society from those that plunder everything we have. The only viable solution is to restrict the size of government. I disagree with the social state for it would be cheaper for just about everything to be private and far less corruption. They started the income tax swearing they were only targeting the rich – lie. Then they started the payroll tax so they could give you social security – now people pay more in SS than taxes and they keep raising the age and reducing the payouts.

If you want to believe these people are honest and care about you, great. Have a nice dream.

When it comes time to collect – well you will discover your entire life trusting them was wrong. Then what? You die in some ditch dead broke and nothing to support you when you can no longer work? Believe what you want. The Jews were offered free showers. What do you want for free?

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Theta_Burn's picture

Birth control pills?

A chicken?

A tank of gas?...

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Sun, rain, horse manure, and CO2.

I will gladly pay the opportunity cost and begrudgingly pay the property taxes.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Home-grown grass-fed beef and tomatoes, egg plant, onions, and peppers from our garden.  Not exactly financially free, but guilt free and worry free.  If you don't raise it, harvest it, and prepare it, then you don't really know what it is.

What would this meal cost at a restaurant or grocery store?

Pladizow's picture

Looks like a 1970 Polish nursing home dinner set?

hedgeless_horseman's picture




I also want my health for free.  We run 3-4 times per week in homemade sandals and do push-ups and pull-ups...gravity is free!

Essentially zero cost...and fantastic results.

Enjoy your treadmills and gym memberships.

Yoga is almost free, too.

2. With this book there is no need to attend a class to try or practice yoga.

Yoga Kundalini, For Body, Mind, and Beyond, by Ravi Singh, $7.99

Pladizow's picture

Why do Americans feel the need to put their personal life on display?

hedgeless_horseman's picture



When you share your opinions, are you not doing the same?

I can only speak for myself.  If more Americans took care of themselves, then I wouldn't be forced to pay for other's food and healthcare.  Wishfull thinking, I know.

I guess my message is this:  Doing for one's self is rewarding, simple, and not out of reach.  We didn't come from rural homes.  I am sorry if you take offense, as none is intended.


Pladizow's picture

No offense taken. I'm just being a little bit of a dick.

Hulk's picture

Careful man , he cooks dick and serves it in a home made bernaise sauce !

Damn you HH, I haven't had a thing to eat all day and you go and post one of your awesome looking dishes...

NoDebt's picture

I think HH may have stumbled across the answer here, accidentally.  No, not growing your own food.  TAXING GRAVITY.  Hell, we're about to start directly taxing CO2 (which is also free since you exhale it with every breath), why not tax gravity?  The fatter you are, the more you pay.  

And, Hulk, he did the same thing to me about 2 weeks running last year.  An hour before lunch like clockwork.  I've forgiven him, though.  

0b1knob's picture

< To kidnap an heiress and threaten her with a knife.

< A baby's arm holding an apple.



What do you want (for free) from life?

MontgomeryScott's picture

"< A baby's arm holding an apple." You DO understand what The Tubes were describing, of course.

Ah... VIAGRA! Sign ME UP for 'Bamacare!

nuclearsquid's picture

What kind of at-home setup does it take to process that cow?  Not griefing, just curious.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



  1. Some good rope and a block and tackle
  2. Skinning knife
  3. Butcher knife
  4. Wetstone
  5. Bonesaw
  6. Butcher paper
  7. Freezer tape
  8. Meatgrinder
  9. Wax pencil or Sharpie pen
  10. Freezer

Of course, the mother-of-all-conveniences is a band saw.

ATM's picture

You forgot the gun and single bullet.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



Mankind was slaughtering animals long before gunpowder was invented.  A knife is much safer and far less traumatic for the animal.

MontgomeryScott's picture

"A knife is much safer" (unless the animal is a grizzly bear or a cougar or a mountain lion or a pack of wolves; in which case the kife IS much safer...for the animal).

NAW, give me the gun. I have plenty of knives already.

bunnyswanson's picture

Oprah, Jerry Springer, the rest of the talk show hosts made being neurotic in a dysfunctional home fashionable and something that should be discussed.  No longer a polite society, we now wear our hearts on our sleeves and feel arrogant and happily announce to the world miserable luck and limited ability to function. 

pakled's picture

Yoga is almost free, too.


Consider this as well. Also can google and youtube the info. Old school philosophy that short duration peak exercise is preferable to aerobic workouts.


Remember this: Keith Richards outlived Jim Fixx.


thamnosma's picture

My gym membership costs $10/month so don't feel too superior.

hedgeless_horseman's picture



I don't feel superior.  I am happy for you!

Meat Hammer's picture

I never take HH's comments as bragging or showing a superiority complex.  He just wants to remind everyone that there is a better life outside of the matrix, and it just takes some sweat and focus to get there.

I, for one, applaud you, HH.  You inspire me.

Miffed Microbiologist's picture

I actually prefer to do yoga in a professional studio. I like to practice at 95- 104 deg (depending on the type of yoga) and 40% humidity. Practicing with a dedicated group of people has a unique experience and energy. Quite Spiritual, really. Yes, it does cost money but if I can no longer afford it, the studio is willing to give free yoga in exchange for cleaning.

I have done yoga at home but I haven't been able to replicate the experience but I heartily agree running in nature is fabulous. More people should put down the electronics and go outside. At least for a walk if they aren't in shape. Who knows where it would lead if people unplugged a few minutes a day?


WillyGroper's picture

you are one smart/tough cookie!

do you use a microscope or a telescope?

zuuma's picture

I'm out of breath just reading about your excercise program.


Got any gravy with that beef?

Old Man River's picture

Hey that's great work right there!


I honestly don't think one can put a price tag on a meal like that. Never tried that mix of tomatoes, egg plant, onions, and peppers before.

Dr. Destructo's picture

Hmm, that does look good, and I definitely love the dinnerware.

My arrangement for free food is that I contribute my labor to a local organic farm, and then I take some food home with me after the work is done. We don't slaughter any animals, as we use them for eggs and milk, but usually those who do have grass fed beef bring it here to share, and volunteers also do the cooking while we're out in the fields. It's a nice arrangement since we all build a sustainable and ethical community that's separate from all the consumer whoredom these days, that and I build a reputation as a knowledgeable and hard-working farmer amongst the people.

Come to think of it, when the SHTF we would actually have a turn-key village on our hands.

I also have an organic garden where I grow my food in plastic containers since I live in the city to supplement the food I get from the farm.

Headbanger's picture

Ammo, moar guns, good tequila, good scotch, steak, Doritos, beef jerky, a nice truck, a good dog, a boat, beer, pizza, a new roof, more camo clothes, occasional younger poontang (mute) and an SU-25!

Meat Hammer's picture

Mute.  Definitely mute.

There are few greater boner repellants than a talkative 20-something chick.

MontgomeryScott's picture

"There are few greater boner repellants than a talkative 20-something chick."

I actually laughed out loud when I saw the line 'boner repellants'! It's like 'RAID' (t.m.) for the singles bars! A 'Valley Girl' on STEROIDS! OHMYGAWD! TOTALLEEE! I'M SURE!

I'm not sure that 'mute' is correct. They need to have a limited vocabulary.

'Yes!'. 'Oh, yes!'. Oh, fuck yeah!'. 'Can I (enter the word or phrase here) it?'. 'Would you like some more?'. 'Don't stop!'. 'I like the way you (enter descriptive phrase) my (enter body orifice of choice)!'. 'It's SO BIG!'.

The Japanese are making great strides in perfecting the artificial sex doll things. It's too bad they're all radioactive.

(I gave you a green arrow, by the way. I don't mean to sound like you guys are being pricks or anything. I actually find it funny. All the women have to do is shut the fuck up every once in a while, and they won't go without, either!)

As for the 'free shit': I'll take a 'Talking Tina Japanese Sex Doll' for a thousand, Alex (as long as it comes with someone to wash it up/out and replace the batteries every so often).



Tasty Sandwich's picture

The thing is that most people don't understand that you can get a tank of gas with money, but you cannot put money into your fuel tank and expect your car to work.

I'm waiting for the peak oil deniers to present plans for a solar-powered Boeing 747 with a nuclear reactor backup.

Matt's picture

"I'm waiting for the peak oil deniers to present plans for a solar-powered Boeing 747 with a nuclear reactor backup."

Wait, what? People who deny peak oil do not need to design solar or nuclear aircraft, since they believe in infinite oil.

ATM's picture

Actually I beleive in supply and demand. Oil will just become more expensive as demnd increases or supply decreases. Price solves all problems.

Matt's picture

If you accept that there are limits on the supply side of oil, then you are not a peak oil denier.

Citxmech's picture

There should be a small part in there about civilization collapsing.

MeelionDollerBogus's picture

If I recall Kyle Bass had something to say about that.

MontgomeryScott's picture

"I'm waiting for the peak oil deniers to present plans for a solar-powered Boeing 747 with a nuclear reactor backup."

Propogandists are so funny, sometimes!

Shouldn't that line be: "I'M WAITING FOR THE 'PEAK OIL' PROMOTERS to present plans for a blah-blah-blah with a nuclear backup."? ??   ???

So-called 'PEAK OIL THEORY PROMOTERS' should be the ones who are doing the 'forward-looking' shit like converting Evergreen Aviation Geoengineering 747's to use 'solar power', don't you think? Those planes that criss-cross the skies can't fly INDEFINETELY on a DWINDLING SUPPLY of FOSSIL FUELS, after all, can they?


If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit (Saul Alinsky's so-called 'idea'. He wasn't the sharpest tack in the room; he simply collated the ignorant thinking of the sociopathic people throughout time, and tried to make it applicable to his OWN sociopathy).

How deep were the Mancondo A,B, and C wells, again? I forget. Was it 30,260 feet below the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico (which starts at about 5,000 feet below the surface of the water)? LOTS of dead plant and animal matter down there, though (I suppose). Those Kola S-G superdeep wells in Siberia sure found some 'fossil fuels' too, didn't they? I understand they went down almost 42,000 feet (before they had to stop because the blowout preventers the Ruskies had at the time couldn't handle the pressure...er... I MEAN, they didn't find anything, and if anyone tells you they did, then they are 'conspiracy theorists' and 'peak-oil deniers', much like right-wing Alex Jones listeners or people who think Obama is a stooge of the bankers, or people who can understand the basic laws of physics and correlate them to the events of 9/11, or people who read 'ZeroHedge', or...).



The BANKSTER asks:

HOW can I deflect the thread so that it appears as though this issue of all the FREE SHIT that the people have had to give through taxes on their labor to ME be made to look as though this is actually about an argument regarding the issues that the MASSES mostly know NOTHING about? A-HA! PEAK OIL!

tempo's picture

USA growth business, illegals, financial aid, ETB cards, subprime car loans all promoted by FED easy money. The calm before storms. unreal

MontgomeryScott's picture

And the people of the Great States of Colorado and Washington say:

"A POT in every, um, POT!"

(Cue 'Bevis and Butthead')

Do you know what 'Z.I.R.P' and 'N.I.R.P' are?

It's like the BANKSTERS saying that if YOU really WANT to give it to THEM for 'FREE', then it's gonna COST YOU! (Of course, in return, 'they' will give back SOME of what you were forced to give them, and it will look like it's 'free' to you. For example: Look, I let you put your digital currency construct that I talked you in to using in my BANK, so I will only charge you a SMALL amount for the PRIVELEDGE, see! YOU get to keep MOST of it, don't you? SEE! It's like 'FREE MONEY! SHUT UP and TAKE IT! You LIKE your drugs and shit, don't you? DON'T YOU? HERE, let us supply you MOAR!)

I'd settle for a total payback of all the monies I have paid in to the Social Security system EN TOTO (including that 'unemployment' stuff) over the past decades, in one lump sum. THAT shit's not gonna happen, though, IS IT?!?

Charity is the better part of humility, though. I feel sorry for those who have been robbing and pillaging the populace (because they can't even wipe their own asses; hence the need for 'the Groom Of The Stool'). I see that Jamie Dimon has 'throat cancer' (most likely from sucking a diseased dick or eating a skanky pussy or one too many shitholes). He should have tried choking the chicken in his gas tank, instead. The SAD part is that good men die, while pricks like Dimon (and KISSINGER) continue to live.

Jack Sheet's picture

Give us a rest, Mart, OK?

MontgomeryScott's picture

Are you afraid that people might actually begin to become aware and wake up; or are you afraid that people might begin to get SERIOULY PISSED OFF and take action against those that enslave us all?

NO, it's NOT 'O.K.'.

As I recall from my youth, the best way to learn and memorize the facts on a subject or study is through REPITITION.

Let's start with the 'times tables', shall we? TOO MUCH? All right. I understand. You are 'frought with emotions' and shit. I feel your pain.

HERE, this one's easier: 30 days hath September; April, June, and November. All the rest have 31 (except for February, {which is a real bastard} which has 28, except for every four years).

LET'S MOVE ON to the Newtonian Laws, shall we?

Sing it all together now:

"An object in motion, stays in motion

"Unless acted upon by an outside force.

"An object at rest STAYS at rest

"Unless acted upon by an outside force."

Mathematical laws stipulate that there is a finite supply of credit available (according to the ability to measure the totality of the subset of the available resources); and that all credit must be derived from those (nations) that are net producers of goods. Eventually, all credit must be repaid to the (nations) that originated it. This immutable Law is also embodied in the Laws of Thermodynamics.

Your avatar looks like the incomplete rendering of a snake eating itself, by the way.


CrashisOptimistic's picture

Just a reminder.

About 2 years ago a tax on millionaires was part of a government shut down fix.  The GOP largely voted in favor of it.

cynicalskeptic's picture

It's not just the government that is taking too much out of the economy...

The SUPER RICH are taking a huge and disproportionate amount out of the broader economy.

We have seen huge 'productivity gains' (eg wage cuts for the masses) where the additional profits are going to the top 0.01%.   You can only sell so many bentleys and $3000 shoes and build so many $200 million mansions.  

Wages and total worth of most Americans has gone DOWN over the last 40 years and the increases seen in the 'top 10% have gone primarily to the top 0.01%)

When CRONY CAPITALISM - and that is what it is - is used to enrich a very few at the expense of the many you have a HUGE problem.  And face it - far MORE of that government spending is going to corporations, banks and Wall Street than to the 'poor'.   TAXPAYERS are supporting the super rich and making good THEIR losses while sharing in NONE of the profits.

The welfare scammer is hurting me far less than the TRILLIONS fed to banks and the 0% interest paid on MY savings as a result.  

ATM's picture

A simple fix for that problem. End the Fed and reinstitute real money. The fed finances the excesses of government and makes this endless borrowing possible. That money flows mostly to the very rich, makingthem even richer while destroying the purchasing power of the middle and lower income earners.

Problem solved.