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Russia Delivers 2nd Batch of Jets To Iraq As USA Unloads 4000 Hellfire Missiles
The battle for favoritism among the 'apparent' leaders in Iraq continues. Russia just delivered the second batch of Sukhoi fighter jets (which will be flown by Iraqi pilots and "are ready to provide air support to the armed forces"), and the US unloaded 4,000 additional Hellfire missiles to support Iraq's fight against the Islamist insurgents. While this morning the intelligentsia of mainstream media proclaimed "the situation in Iraq is calming down" predicated on the fact that oil prices were lower and stocks at record highs, we suspect the additional war material to Iraq will do nothing but increase the determination of the "Islamic State" to increase its Caliphate.
As Bloomberg reports, the proxy war favoritism continues in Iraq...
The U.S. readied to sell Iraq thousands of missiles and a second batch of Russian Sukhoi combat jets arrived in Baghdad as foreign powers moved to help Iraqi forces battle an al-Qaeda offshoot.
The U.S. State Department has told lawmakers informally that the Obama administration wants to sell Iraq more than 4,000 additional Hellfire missiles to support its fight against the Islamist insurgents, according to people familiar with the plan.
Sale of the laser-guided missiles made by Lockheed Martin would be in addition to 500 previously purchased.
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Russia began sending used fighter jets and military advisers to Iraq over the weekend in response to an appeal from the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Today’s arrivals bring the number of planes shipped to 10.
But Iraq is ready to use the new war materials...
The jets will be flown by Iraqi pilots and “are ready to provide air support to the armed forces,” the Defense Ministry said in a statement.
“The lack of a serious aerial threat has allowed Sunni militants to use lightning raids in quickly assembled convoys of pickup trucks equipped with medium- or heavy-weapons systems,” Texas-based consulting firm Stratfor said in a report e-mailed last night.
Iraq can use the Russian jets to “interdict massed Islamic State and Sunni rebel convoys,” it added.
But the US-Russia pissing match continues...
Iraq’s Shiite-led government said it turned to Russia to bolster its aerial capabilities because U.S. F-16 jets were taking too long to be delivered. U.S. President Barack Obama has also refrained from ordering air strikes against the Sunni militants, putting the onus on Iraqi leaders to first form an inclusive government that could work to end the marginalization of minority Sunnis.
Pressure from the U.S. and Iraq’s top Shiite cleric wasn’t enough to prod lawmakers yesterday to end an impasse over picking a prime minister and fill key posts. An hour after convening in Baghdad for the first time since April elections, parliament adjourned until July 8, citing a lack of quorum and disagreements among leading political blocs.
Marie Harf, a U.S. State Department spokeswoman, said while it was important parliament convened, “we do hope that Iraq’s leaders will move forward with the extreme urgency that the current situation deserves.”
“Time is not on Iraq’s side here,” she added, according to an e-mail of her daily briefing. “They need to do this as quickly as possible.”
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While some may believe because the mainstream media is focus on record high stocks that Iraq must be a strom in a teacup, the violence and deaths are worsening day by day - this is far from over.
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This is going to escalate into the most epic clusterfuck of modern times...exactly as the masters have planned.
Dozens of fighter jets, check.
4000 missiles, check.
No functioning government, check.
All set for further arming ISIS.
Cut with the negative vibes, Moriarty.
PS, they're the moderate terrorists we're supporting and don't you forget that.
+100 Kelly's Heroes ref
Ivan, raise your right hand....repeat after me
You are now an Iraqi pilot
Russia knows that ISIS is backed by US/Israel... and is turning up the heat accordingly. If ISIS starts getting bombed, the U.S. and Israel will be forced to show their hand and save their proxy army.
Excellent observation- that is the crux of the matter isn't it?
By providing close air support capabilities to the "legitimate" government of Iraq, Russia is forcing the shadow hand of the proxy force sponsors out into the open.
Knight takes queen...
Unfortunately, this will play out over time, and there will be a lot of blood and misery.
USSA provide hellfire missile for arming of USSA Sukhoi fighter jet is wonderful sign of cooperation between world great super power. There is no doubt China is manufacture many part for both!
LOL the USA 4000 missiles, more BIG talk, the Iraqis will be lucky if they see 4 of those missiles, more likely the ISIS dudes will miraculously raid some airbase in Jordan and end up with all those puppies.
Cracks me up to see the USA throw around all these impressive numbers, they can add them up to the tally sheet that includes all those promised F16s. This State Dept is the biggest f***king joke in the world, but they are also killers of civillians. Call them KILLER CLOWNS
the U.S. and Israel will be forced to show their hand and save dump their proxy army without a second thought just as soon as it suits them and if they all get killed, well "does it even matter now"
same as it ever was
Can you attach hellfire missles to old Soviet jets? If not, they only have a few helicopters and a couple modified cessnas to attach them to.
Yes, with the addition of a mere $100,000 adapter!
Sounds like what might be keeping Radio Shack in business.
Apparently not without overcoming some minor obstacles.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htproc/articles/20140701.aspx
Flying toyota pickup trucks...
need MOAR "advisors", stat
They duck tape an Iraq air force guy to the wing and when the pilot gives him the signal, he drops it...
..Iraq is history as we know it. This govt will fall apart and the country will be split into 2 or 3 entities. Iran is the real threat.
Iran has not started any war in 200 years.
but has had plenty of dirty done to them.
"Iran is the real threat."
Says who?
Give the guy a break. He said "duck" tape. He's just blowing off steam after a beer or six; you're responding like he even knows where Iraq/Iran is.
Besides, you're gonna take someone seriously who begins a sentence with two periods? .Everyone knows you only use one. .See?
...Bollocks!
Says who? i wonder, a difficult question isn't it
wild guess says the same people who see any stable strong country in the region as a threat.
better to have them all split up and constantly warring.
nope, give up way, way too difficult to figure out.
Lol I thought the same thing...this whole thing is a fuckin mess just like they want it to be
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Mil-spec duct tape. We already know what those ME guys can do with a box knife whilst flying aircraft.
Anyone else wonder about the irony of american bombs flown on russian planes by iraqis to blow up american humvees and artillery gifted to iraq courtesy of the american taxpayer and soldier???... anyone???
Irony and slow-motion eagles-n-flags don't mix.
What if BNP Paribas is financing the Russian planes???? Hmmm....
The comedian Lenny Bruce once pointed out the absurd irony of throwing homosexuals in prison with a thousand other men.
"Then what do we do?"
"You could just ask 'em to stop doin' it...."
I'm done giving a fuck what goes on with ISIS in Iraq, etc.
Prayers to the innocents, fuck the gangsters.
Don't forget the arms that the US provided to insurgents BEFORE they were used to capture US humvees and artillery, where we now seem content in sending more arms to destroy these previous distributions. We have done it for so long in Iraq - supply them, then supply their enemies, then fight both sides by supplying a third, etc, etc. One may even think that it is done on purpose, perhaps? The irony slides into the category of farce.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yossarian
"the other bomber had escaped by after dropping his bombs over somewhere's ville he then proceeded to fly to Sweden instead of back to base."
..you forgot the American stinger missiles the IS claimed in the Iraq depots that they will use to shoot down the Russian planes carrying American missiles...
..perpetual money machine for the military complex.
..you forgot the American stinger missiles the IS claimed in the Iraq depots that they will use to shoot down the Russian planes carrying American missiles...
..perpetual money machine for the military complex.
..you forgot the American stinger missiles the IS claimed in the Iraq depots that they will use to shoot down the Russian planes carrying American missiles...
..perpetual money machine for the military complex.
How could we forget when you said it three fucking times, slick?
You forget that ISIS has no airframe on which to mount launch and guide the stingers.
Stingers require no "airframes", slick.
They are MANPADS.
Classic!!
But the real problem is, you can;t make this crap up for a movie!!! Only our .gov does it for fuckin real!
If terrorists did not exist, it would be necessary to invent them. (hat tip- Voltaire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56u6g0POvo0
never gets old
Can't remember sending out any neg vibes though I have a few to spare.
ROCK THE CASBAH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ9r8LMU9bQ&feature=kp
4500 missiles is 495 million dollars - according to wiki they cost 110K per.
One half of a billion dollars.
I gotta close out my 401K soon...
ISIS recently seized $400m+ while taking over some Iraqi bank. Where are we delivering'em hellfires again?
That's 2.25 Hellfires or $220,000 per ISIS fighter if there are really just two thousand or so of them. If we get a couple of twofers or maybe a few hat tricks with those missiles we can bring this war in under budget and ahead of schedule so's we can get a jump on the next one.
I say send in the Duke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPe2hXSTTPU
No kidding, ISIS is going to have a hayday.
Gog and Megog, Bitchez
Zog and MICZog, Bitchez!
FIFY
F'ng insanity.
"clusterfuck of modern times" -- it sure as shit has that potential. Meanwhile, back in the Ukraine....
I'd say more like the US is being forced into helping lest they lose what little international standing and influence with Iraq they have left.
After seeing it reported on syrianperspective.com I shared with zerohedge that the Syrian airforce started bombing in iraq soon after the ISIS invasion and they reported at the end of last week that many retired ( and probably some active ) SAF pilots are going to be flying Sukhois in Iraq, and that has already started.
I said weeks ago either the US plays some token role here, or they get left looking like even bigger assholes because ISIS, now the Islamic state isn't establishing a state from north africa to south europe as is being peddled. They are going to lose just like they are losing in Syria so the West better either be on the right side of history or start WW3. We know what ultimately will happen.
Both the Syrian and Iranian air forces operate the SU-25 so can provide pilots as well as all the backup needed. In the case of the Syrians a few forward controllers as well.
champagne is flowing in tel aviv
So... What happens when they flip sides and those planes and rockets are used against us?
I'm like 100% sure it will happen...
No, no, no. Next month the MSM will be telling us that the ISIS are our moderate allies and that the people of Iraq and Syria have made their choice and we should respect it. Can almost cut and paste today's earlier remarks on the Ukraine and just change the principals.
Te sad part is that 's completly true!
....those planes and rockets are used against us?
Throttle down, viper. ISIS hasn't listed it as a target, so I'm sure Belgium will be fine for the foreseeable future.
Back to your waffles and soccer victory party.
The closest thing ISIS will ever get to an airforce will be nato air support a la libya. The chances of them purloining any of these sukhois is nothing, and even IF they did, I'm not sure they have russian plane training facilities at langley.
I got a bad feeling about this...
That's alot of Hellfire.
and the US taxpayer be paying...
Did Camacho get the 500 mil request through the House and Senate?
I missed something. Or is this just coming out of the general murder slush fund?
Manufactured by Lockheed-Martin (Bethesda, MD). The Worlds Largest War Profiteer. Employs 116,000.
Hellfire cost $110,000/unit
$440,000,000 total
9 of the top 10 contractors to the US Federal Government are in the War business.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_100_US_Federal_Contractors
Well, with the change...they can buy a dozen Cessnas.
Bullish.
And take delivery after it is all over, say in 8 years or so....
I wonder how much silver goes into those Hellfire components.....anyone?
Zoom zoom boom.
cha-ching!
i want to see GoPro of any casualties, otherwise didn't happen...
ISIS lacks an air force. If i want to deal with "Massed ISIS Convoys" it would seem to me,
that either Hellfire missiles on simple crop dusters or simple aircraft with a .50 caliber machine gun
would be more useful.
Of course, the Iraqi army is going to turn and run and ISIS will take the whole country.
Obama just sent an exfiltration force that's just strong enough to hold the airport and they will get out in jets.
By the time they start getting the last people out of there it will be choppers on the roof, because you are not going to able to just drive out to the airport. Even when things were cool, Blackstone used to get 5,000 for a one way trip.
Lets hope some of those 4000 helfires missiles make across our Southern border and get used against the beast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMPKR3d-Ds
he deserves it more than anybody
I'm pretty sure that Ebola is on its way here across the Southern border as I type this.
so why are we sending all those Hellfires over THERE?
Some may see using Hellfire missiles to combat a spic borne Ebola threat as over-the-top excessive..but not this guy.
I'm with ya. Matter of fact, I'll see your Hellfire and raise you 2500 JDAMs.
Just to be sure.
War is a racket, yes, but hot wars are always more profitable than cold.
Same as it ever was.
Hot wars are for seizing assets earmarked for cold wars.
There never has nor will there ever be a political or monetary "solution" to resource scarcity.
Same as it ever was...
ABC. NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC & FOX = State Run Media
They are all one in the same. Just like Red team Blue team.
addendum to above
add NPR,PBS, and two foreign: BBC,CBC
It's like buying 5 cases of beer for your teenage son before you go on vacation.
At least that beer money, is money well spend
US Military: This shit doesn't get any better until you refuse to participate.
Refuse your orders.
You're a human being not a chess piece.
Stop obeying illegal orders!
US Military: Hmmm, those nice Big-MIC jobs sure do look good after "retirement".
Yup, they have for 60+ years now.
Que: slow motion flag (for the easily manipulated patriots).
Legality has absolutely nothing to do with it.
4000 hellfires should just about do the trick.
Set them all off at once, pick a spot, any spot!!??
Set them all off at once, pick a spot, any spot!!??
"4000 hellfires should just about do the trick."
Yes, they'll do the trick for all those MIC managers waiting for new factory orders.
As for defeating "ISIS", not so much.
Yeah. But the Hellfires aren't compatible with the sukhois. So have the Russians sent missles already?
They got lots of duct tape for sure.
Or do the two Cessna's have hard points for Hellfires?
If so, I want video of that.
Apparently Iran has also sent some fighters.
The Russian jets now total only 10 and are of 1972 design much like the A10 except that they have higher exhaust fan temperatures which tend to attract the Russian design Igla surface-to-air missiles. Good luck Russian pilots.
newsheadline September 1st: Irag invades Kuwait, meets little resistance. Sunni rebels were leading the forces. The former ISIS has been promised their own home state in what was the old Kuwait.
So there will be a light show.
Fascinating, now Russian, American and Iranian military "advisors" are fighting over access to Maliki. Who writes this stuff?
However, at this point IS should be realizing they are about to become expendable. Russian aircraft, flown by trained mercenary pilots, thousands of American missiles versus guys in Toyotas with AK-47s. What are the Vegas odds on who wins?
What are the odds that the entire region is about to collapse into chaos?
It already is..no pun intended.
vietnam. bombs from the air don't win wars
Iraq desert...bombs beat Toyotas.
Charlie don't Toyota!
He don't desert, either.
exactly the point. the jihadists ain't gonna desert their posts,and im sure they can figure out some method camouflage. human shields, even, if absolutely necessary. what do they do in syria?
the iraqi army folded the first time in northern iraq. so which new and improved braver army will hold the north after all those bombs?
they will use 300 of those missles..and sell the other 100 to some friends of theirs that will end up killing Americans somewhere..the business of war..
times 10, it's 4000 missiles
Two years from no Iran will be replicating these Hellfire missiles.
LOL This is bullish right?
The fact this market is where it is with all these geopolitical factors ALONE should tell you how complacent and controlled this market truly is and how illusory all stock prices are. When the event comes it is gonne be carnage in the markets..Printed money and lies are not gonna save us..it is all they have had for a decade now.
Wait till you see the market rally after armed skirmishes break out at our border....
I hope World War 3 doesn't affect the return of "Game of Thrones"
One (1) Trident SLBM-- just one (.!.) with multiple warheads is 1000Xs the combined A-Bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945!
The Russian's have a super-duper SLBM at 1500Xs.
If and when WWIII breaks out as an example it would only take the payload of one Russian or USSA Nuclear sub to sink Japan to the bottom of the ocean or inhospital til the end of time...
nice
"Arab Spring, Jihad Summer" by Mr. Pepe Escobar @ atimes
The Classical Gas, 'Sir Pepe' puts his 'roving`eye' on... 'hIS'toriography'!?!
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-03-020714.html
Where does the time go, its been a decade since we used our million dollar air to ground stuff to destroy all those Iraqi Su-25!
So which is it ; the US unloads 4000 missiles or the Us redies to deliver 4000 missiles ? One is action and the other is contemplation.
You better believe that Iran is going to get one of everything to reverse-engineer.
The boys at Lockheed had a collective orgasm.
Shock and Awe..............Shit.................
So Russian warplanes will be carrying U.S. missiles, is that correct?
Flown by ex evil-doers, that is correct.
Mission accomplished (or something).
The number of hellfires kicked about seems to have escalated from 1,400 to 4,000 today, this may be a misprint. I doubt the US has 4,000 hellfires in inventory right now, maybe not even 1,400, and certainly not of any one model. We tend to very thin inventories on this stuff and have never used more than a couple of hundred per year, afaik, except maybe 1991 and 2003.
We are probably offering Iraq a contract for 1,400 or 4,000 but this will either strip US inventories to the floor, or will require some hurry-up manufacturing, and even contract negotiations aside I doubt Lockheed has the facility to manufacture more than maybe 100 or so per week and maybe a lot less, probably take weeks to get the components even on an emergency basis.
(I was associated with a similar rush order for sidewinders back in the Falkland Wars days ... I think it was not so many burned, so much as they suddenly needed a hundred more to stock the pipeline behind the ten they (UK) actually had)
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http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/us-hellfire-missile-orders-fy-2011-2014-07019/
Sept 26/13: A $248.7 million firm-fixed price contract modification for 3,318 Hellfire II missiles in containers (various models) for the US Army, Navy and Air Force; as well as exports to Saudi Arabia, Korea, Kuwait, the Netherlands and Australia.
Work will be performed in Orlando, FL, and purchases will include funding will be from US FY 2011 through 2013 budgets. This was a non-competitive acquisition with one bid solicited and one received (W31P4Q-11-C-0242, PO 0049).
The Ami Jews as always will bribe the MP to vote orderly.
And if not, then they will vote, like in the Ukrainian Verchovna Rada after feb. 20-th: under the gunpoint of 7,62x39.
God help us when the caliphate get hold of those 4000 hellfire missiles.
the situation in Iraq reminds me of the famous quote by the political philosopher Thomas Hobbes: the war of all against all
Fuck, I have MIC jizz all over my screen. If 4000 are good. 10,000 must be mo betta, ship 'em over guys!
The U.S. State Department has told lawmakers informally that the Obama administration wants to sell Iraq more than 4,000 additional Hellfire missiles to support its fight against the Islamist insurgents, according to people familiar with the plan.
Does that seriously say "sell" as if Iraq is going to pay for them??????
Suck on that taxpayers
isis and it's gay cia drone hellfiire freedom turds v putins su 25 frogfoots interesting.
with a bit of cash in hand i am sure 10 or so retired belarus pilots could be tempted too have some wipe out fun on langleys boystown boyz
Sid James: God help us when the caliphate get hold of those 4000 hellfire missiles.
Follw the money. ALWAYS follow the money. Who funds this silly Caliphate?
The Mandarin?
4,000 Hellfire missles? I enjoy smoking Camels....
We are through the looking glass here. Russia, US, and Iran fighting a proxy war against Saudi Arabia's secret army in Iraq, after the US supported that same army against the Assad regime in Syria. And Al Qaeda publicly stating that ISIS is too extreme for them. Just bizarre!
Blast it, I need a score card to figure out WHO to root for in this clusterfsck!
"The U.S. readied to sell Iraq thousands of missiles" <> "the US unloaded 4,000 additional Hellfire missiles"
If they have no way to attach the Hellifre missles then can't they just lob them over by hand at close range.
I am sure Lockheed Martin will happily sell them the M299 Missile Launcher platform. Getting those on their planes and choppers might require some modifications and void any warranty, though.
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/products/M299MissileLauncher.html
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/mfc/pc/m299-miss...
Just send in John Wayne.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7T1jYymCI&list=PLFErYjWb5ezKNzTJtDrdhMS...
This Iraq war is turning into a kabuki theater, it is the Pentagon,US army vs Langley mercenaries
ha,,,,, al-Qaeda hijacked.
There are sure to be stocks of Hellfires available on the 'early delivery special price' plan. Just drop them off in Iraq rather than taking them all the way back to the US from Afganistan. I am sure the USN could spare a few from their stocks in Bahrain.
Also Iraq does pay for its weapons, so no cost to the US taxpayer. This is one of the reasons they do not have their F-16s yet, back in 2009 they delayed the order and bought food instead.
They have lots of very good ground attack aircraft on order, just not delivered yet. ISIS had to strike now.
Isn't it heartwarming to see the US-Russia cooperation? I need a tissue.
It will be like Saigon in 1975 with Americans and their paid goons fleeing on rooftop helicopters.
Win the battles, lose the war.
If we can just make it to 2016, I'm sure Dick will be there for Hillary.