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Ukraine Bombing Of Residential Building Caught On Tape

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The Ukraine ceasefire is off, which means all those pro-Russian "separatist, terrorist" troops and/or civilians living in the breakaway East Ukraine, aka Novorossiya, region are again fair game. The video below, published Wednesday, and first reported by RT, shows a moment from the shelling that happened a day before. The shell hits right next to a one-story residential building, sending a blast-wave and a cloud of smoke and dust in all directions. 

Severodonetsk is a city of 110,000 residents in the Lugansk Region. Troops loyal to Kiev started bombarding it with heavy weapons as part of a major offensive launched by President Petro Poroshenko at midnight on Monday.

 

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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:59 | 4917945 hedgeless_horseman
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Severodonetsk is a city of 110,000 residents in the Lugansk Region.
Troops loyal to Kiev started bombarding it with heavy weapons as part of
a major offensive launched by President Petro Poroshenko at midnight on
Monday.

A Global Force For Good?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:59 | 4917960 whatsinaname
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/rbi-plans-to-swa...

I dont understand what the Indian Central Bank is trying to achieve here ?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:42 | 4917963 hedgeless_horseman
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"Obama praised Poroshenko for reaching out [with heavy weapons?] to the country's restive eastern regions."

 

"We stand together because we believe that people and nations have the right to determine their own destiny [except for Crimeans?] that includes the people of Ukraine," Obama said.

 

"Our free nations will stand united so that further Russian provocations will only mean more isolation and costs for Russia," Obama said. "Because after investing so much blood and treasure to bring Europe together, we refuse to allow the dark tactics of the 20th century [such as coups and shelling civilians?] to define the 21st."

 

WTF?  Is Obama's speech writer working from a cave without an internet connection?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:43 | 4918140 The Black Bishop
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Look for the guy diving back into his house after the dustcloud starts to settle. He must have been extremely lucky if he was out in the street or garden when that shell/rocket hit.

 

Fuck the US-backed P-Ukes.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:21 | 4918582 franzpick
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O'Zero is lithping his nickname into "president" PeePee's ear: "GoBombEm".

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:36 | 4918663 ilion
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Poroshenko seems to respect his fellow citizens. Now that's a president!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:33 | 4918884 Mountainview
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Next important step: He should tell his head of parliament to take a shave!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:58 | 4919169 7.62x54r
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I don't think the word "respect" means what you think it means.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:47 | 4918157 RealityCheque
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Ahhh "costs".

Anybody remember if that ever actually meant anything, except as a euphamism for a dickhead president to try and save face?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:49 | 4918164 Urban Roman
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"Heckuva job, Porky!"

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:55 | 4918197 disabledvet
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Welcome to war in the East. They wipe out entire population centers when they fight. Apartment complexes? SHOCKING!

"It's not just mere ignorance of the past...but of the present as well." Take a good hard look at Syria in case you want to know how "current war" is waged. Simply put "War without Mercy."

One look at that equity market says to me not only "there is money in it"...but that there is a LOT of money in it. "And once these interests intersect" there is nothing any of us "cheap seaters" here can do about it.

You have millions of unemployed males in the US and Europe right now. YOUNG males. What do you think they're going to do to prove their worth and value to society? The whole thing has been scripted since Day One. And believe me "this isn't fishing." Once you become one of multitude who do this thing...you say yourself...to you who in fact have become..."there is not going back for me."

I was grateful for having left the experience still able to enjoy the "theory of peace."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-sqkzCir9k

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:08 | 4917987 SoDamnMad
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Gold is money (real money). Old gold cannot have a fugible price placed on it hence they want to sell it (to refiners perhaps) and be able to add it to the asset side of the balance sheet.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:59 | 4919175 7.62x54r
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Old gold is still fungible, but .9999 kilo bars have a premium on the asian market. Re-refining them adds value in excess of their current .92 gold content.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:10 | 4917995 WTFx10
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WTF does that have to do with the story?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:56 | 4918070 CPL
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Nothing...but it's interesting that someone is attempting to steal gold that was stolen 30 years ago already.  People would a little naive to believe the same tricks done now weren't used in the past regarding tungsten and lead injection.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:30 | 4918090 Jeff Lebowski
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Huh? No, what the fuck are you... I'm not... We're talking about unchecked aggression here, dude.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:02 | 4919180 7.62x54r
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Maybe he is trying to distract from the fact that Obama is supporting the shelling of civilians that voted to secede from his new vassal?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 19:53 | 4919666 Idaho potato head
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Obviously these posters are holed up in the same cave as ozbummarks speech writers. With governments like these I'm more concerned with my lead stash than gold. Fuckin US is way over the line.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:25 | 4918056 CPL
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In sight midday bank robbery of course after it's been 'fixed', the 'pure' gold should be mostly tungsten after the switch.  Funny thing is they are assuming the gold in there is actually still there.  LOL!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:56 | 4919163 7.62x54r
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Unlike totally retarded EU countries, the US, and their vassals, the Indians actually value gold.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:54 | 4919161 7.62x54r
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I dont understand what the Indian Central Bank is trying to achieve here ?

They are meeting their obligation as a BRICS country by standardizing their reserves. The Chinese demand .9999 fine gold in kilogram bars for settlement purposes. So they are trading up old .92 mine bars. The old bars will be re-refined, and either sold to China, or sent back as additional .9999 kilo bars.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:33 | 4918102 V in PA
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"A Global Force For Good"

 

I always wondered if ' For Good' means virtuous/kind or permanently/never changing.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:36 | 4918115 hedgeless_horseman
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Wonder no more.

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."


 

- George Orwell

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:00 | 4918208 disabledvet
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"Von Manstein explains to Hitler that the destruction of Von Paulus's 100,000 Army buys time for the defense of the Reich."

So much for "kicking the door in and having the whole house collapse."

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:15 | 4918542 luftmensch
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Putin's paid propaganda army is actively spamming ZH and other sites:

 

"Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine.  The Guardian readers’ editor reports 40,000 comments a day by an “orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign” of pro-Russia trolling on Ukraine stories." (Forbes, May 11, 2014)

"Mr. Putin, as a young KGB officer in Berlin, was not an intelligence agent but a disinformation specialist...Putin’s invisible disinformation campaign is a carbon copy of the one Stalin used during the Great Terror (1937-1938) and World War II…"

Ukrainian Facebook posting: “We have not killed one Russian, we did not take their land or introduce troops on their territory, did not grab their resources. We simply became a free people for one week. Is this enough for Russia to declare war on us with a unanimous decision and  the full approval of the Russian people! Why do they hate us? Because of freedom? Because of different thinking?"

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/11/inside-putins-campaign-of-social-media-trolling-and-faked-ukrainian-crimes/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/03/10/putins-big-lie-on-ukraine-if-it-werent-so-serious-it-would-be-funny/

http://www.ukrainianwinnipeg.ca/russian-propaganda-works-social-media/

http://news.msn.com/in-depth/russian-propaganda-war-in-full-swing-over-ukraine

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-propaganda-20140521-story.html

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:37 | 4918664 IndyPat
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Useless talkings.

We merely want to defend against mischievous moose and squirrel..

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:28 | 4918982 luftmensch
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Hi IndyPat, is this you and your buddies spamming us from St Petersburg?

At least your are getting a decent wage for being Putin's propaganda serfs ($3000/m).  Ahhhh, the life of a disinformation specialist.  Let's guess, you studied political science, had an uncle who was in the KGB/FSB, got a Summer internship, one thing led to another, and there you are, spamming the hell out of the world for the Motherland!

Anyway, better than being one of the poor schmucks being sent to the front-lines to create the fake movement of Ukranians  wanting to rejoin the USSR.

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:03 | 4919183 7.62x54r
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Nah. We don't need pay to slam Ofucktard and his vassals.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:49 | 4918716 blentus
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You are a fucking idiot.

 

Go write comments on Yahoo answers.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:36 | 4919107 luftmensch
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Is that all you got lol.  Aren't you an educated agitprop Kremlin serf?  Or did they just grab your unemployed ass off the street to work the blogs?

"I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me before I lose my nerve."

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:04 | 4919186 7.62x54r
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I'm an American, despite what your headvoices keep telling you.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:55 | 4918744 McMolotov
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SMISC:

http://www.wired.com/2011/07/darpa-wants-social-media-sensor-for-propaga...

http://www.darpa.mil/Our_Work/I2O/Programs/Social_Media_in_Strategic_Com...

Yes, I've posted it before. But I'm going to keep pointing this out every time someone whines about Putin's Magical Troll Army™ — especially in light of the recent revelations about Facebook's psychological experimentation with news feeds in order to manipulate users' emotional states.

Try harder next time.

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 04:51 | 4920674 tonyw
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Also ANNA news has been blocked from youtube, for "infringement of copyright" this is despite the fact they broadcast their own news bulletins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyeQPfTzGv8

 

The MIC just does not want you to know what is happening, the fact that the ukraine army indiscriminately shelling villages & towns.

So we have censorship as well as propoganda.

Don't forget "they" hate us for our freedoms.

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:59 | 4917956 RealityCheque
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Classy guys.

they really earned their local girls, for raping, tonight.

And all the while, the MSM says NOT A FUCKING WORD.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:21 | 4918042 HamRove
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What bugs me is that not only do they not manage to report any of this, but they continue to call them "Separatists"

How the hell does the MSM sleep at night. Those "separatists" didn't want a gang of Nazis to take over the government in Kiev. If anyone is the "separatists" it's the Ukranian Nazis who took over.  

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:48 | 4918160 RealityCheque
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They don't sleep. They are vampires.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:05 | 4919188 7.62x54r
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Well, maybe during the day.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:04 | 4918229 V in PA
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I propose that everyone stop using MSM (main stream media) and start calling it what it is. SRM (state run media)

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:16 | 4918558 HamRove
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I second that emotion. 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:58 | 4917957 max2205
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Long ADT

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:59 | 4917959 WTFUD
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The sooner PPP is hanging by the neck the better. Nuland too.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:59 | 4917962 JustObserving
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Perhaps, President Petro Poroshenko will get his day at the Hague.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:12 | 4918008 gold_pa3ot
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but first Putin does

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:33 | 4918374 Zwelgje
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< facepalm >

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:01 | 4917968 Global Hunter
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Blowing up houses is not a good way to win over the hearts and minds of those you wish to control.  Nobody has thought this through.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:30 | 4918089 Urban Redneck
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They most certainly have thought it through.

Check your premise- does Kiev wish contain them, displace them, or liquidate them (among other options)?

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 05:03 | 4920682 tonyw
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Poroshenko made the decision to resume military actions (shelling towns & destroying infrastructure), which was not necessary, Kiev in the shape of the oligarchs are just following orders from their US handlers.

The SRM together with censorship of opposing views are presenting a completely one-sided view of the conflict and want to push russia into sending troops to ukraine so it can be presented as bully russia that must be opposed so we can retain our freedoms. Of course the MIC will need even more money and there will be little mention of the fact that Nato already spends more than ten times as much as russia on military.

i think the rest of the world is starting to wake up to the bullying.

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:34 | 4918094 CPL
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If I were a burglar that would say 'come on in, no one has been home in a while'.  Go look at the video again and check it out.  The yards in the area are unkempt, the driveways are empty and the houses could use a coat of paint. 

p r o p o g a n d a.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:43 | 4918147 WTFx10
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Yeah ,just like Detroit.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:55 | 4918191 CPL
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Yup.  Except during devil's night when areas of the city are burned to the ground it rarely if ever ends up on MSM.  It's just sort of accepted that it happens every year and it would run counter to current paradigms of those 'running it all'.  Those people love blood, war, things on fire.  Get's them hot.  Only reason they get up in the morning is to burn, blow up or kill.

Imagine if everyone including that tiny minority woke up tomorrow with the same attitude.  That would be something to see...

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 05:09 | 4920691 tonyw
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The people of ukraine have been comprehansively looted by the oilgarchs and are poor, they don't have money for cars and painting their property.

The 18 oligarch governors didn't get rich quickly from their good business acumen, they are all corrupt thieves who are prepared to use violence to make money.

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:45 | 4918149 V in PA
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One doesn't always need to win the hearts and minds. Sometimes killing off or driving out an entire region and stealng thier shit works just as well.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:18 | 4918302 FMR Bankster
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The militia does a nice job of spacing their APC's as they drive. Reduces the chance of hits to multiple targets.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:05 | 4917975 youngman
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He does not want to control the Russians..he wants to eliminate them...that is war baby...only then will he have control again...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:11 | 4918000 gold_pa3ot
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yes, Putin really wants it!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:12 | 4919210 7.62x54r
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Why should Putin invade?

That is what Ofucktard and troll assholes like you want. He'll just keep giving MANPADs and mines to ethnic Russians, and the Ukrainians and their CIA/Blackwater trainers will get the same crap they got in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Only Ofucktard cannot maintain air superiority over the Ukraine. And they aren't using drones either, as a Global Hawk got jammed and crashed two month ago.

Have fun bleeding. Keep recruiting more Guerillas by shelling civilians. That always works out well.

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 05:12 | 4920696 tonyw
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yes, remember tymoshenko said the eight million russian speakers should be killed - simply genocide.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:06 | 4917983 FreeSlave
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it looks like they want to make Putin put boots on the ground

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:13 | 4919218 7.62x54r
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Yep. I suggest going long on smuggled IEDs and MANPADs.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:07 | 4917984 luckylogger
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Way to go... Kick those Ruskie asses............

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:15 | 4919222 7.62x54r
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Get back to us after those civilians you are shelling start driving truck bombs into Kiev.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:07 | 4917985 gold_pa3ot
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Fuck Putin and fuck Russia!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:17 | 4919232 7.62x54r
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In Russia, Putin fucks you.

I suggest examining Obama's track record for dealing with angry insurgents. So far, his record includes burning embassies, and losing entire countries to barbarians.

Is this the horse you want to hitch your wagon to?

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 03:20 | 4920588 gold_pa3ot
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Russian bitch detected

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:14 | 4918016 SoDamnMad
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So the Russian people will really get behind Putin and be very willing to suffer what the sanctions will bring.

Russians all over Europe will be PISSED at the West.

Sure hope el Nino brings good weather to Europe to this winter (especially near the end of winter ) since the gas stocks now might be most of what you get.

This is not going to end well. I hear Russian gunners with their better equipment and training can drop a shell in a trash can from 8 km away.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:18 | 4919239 7.62x54r
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I don't expect to see a single Russian Army boot on the ground there. The Ukrainians are doing an excellent job recruiting for their enemies by shelling civilians.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:15 | 4918023 slightlyskeptical
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The reasons why Kiev is not a parking lot by now escapes me. If Kiev ends up reclaiming the east then Crimnea will be gone next. Putin's failure to intercede is a sign of weakness.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:16 | 4918027 gold_pa3ot
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Putin is just a big huylo, don't forget it!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:21 | 4918039 Peacen1k
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Or it's a sign that he doesn't want to be involved in Ukraine's ugly civil war.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:31 | 4918081 WTFUD
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@SS You sound a real bright fuck! Stool Pigeon PPP & Barry O'toole along with the EU Muppets are gonna learn the hard way in due course. Let's call that Putin's Way!!!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:44 | 4918144 slightlyskeptical
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What number of deaths will cross the Rubicon for him? 1000, 100,000 or will it take a couple of million before he decides to act? It's a sad, sad day when you have to rely on Russia to do the right thing.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:54 | 4918187 WTFUD
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Bullshit! The SAD part is the USSA/Banker/ NeoCON grip on the bumbling EU.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:16 | 4918025 kowalli
Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:21 | 4918041 gold_pa3ot
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ruskie bitch detected

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:19 | 4919243 7.62x54r
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Neo-nazi apologist detected.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:16 | 4918026 Jethro
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Doesn't (at first glance anyways) look like big ordinance hit it.  Maybe an 82-MM mortar?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:18 | 4918033 gold_pa3ot
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Doesn't it look like the video is coming from propagandist paRussia Today and was not filmed in Ukraine?)

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:17 | 4918030 czarangelus
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The Zio-ogres are out in force this morning.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:24 | 4918057 junction
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In the Ukraine, for now, they can only wipe out homes one at a time. 

In Detroit, entire neighborhoods are destroyed gradually.  http://goobingdetroit.tumblr.com/

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:26 | 4918068 gold_pa3ot
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you can put some russians in those neighborhoods, so putin will come and help them!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:39 | 4918122 Emergency Ward
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someone around here is a secret Putin lover!  goldy?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:20 | 4919245 7.62x54r
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Putin running Detroit would be an improvement.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:37 | 4918119 Atomizer
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Sorry ZH family. Another psychology video. Watch the individual running down the sidewalk after explosion.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:45 | 4918152 Smiley
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"The 80's called, they want their foreign policy back"  *laughter and applause*

So, who's laughing now?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:55 | 4918188 22winmag
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Dresden and Tokyo make this event sound like a fart in a windstorm.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:08 | 4918249 disabledvet
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"And Hiroshima and Nagasaki." And Nanking, and Warsaw, and Berlin, and Moscow, and St. Petersburg, and Stalingrad. The list is quite long. You should travel over there sometime. Many places still cease to exist because of that War. "A war unlike any other."

Save for perhaps the current one I imagine.

I look forward to Baghdad making it actually. That will give me hope.

"For the Future."

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:06 | 4918232 The Phallic Crusader
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Meh, it's like when the US bombs an apartment building or milk factory and kills a few dozen people.

It simply isn't news.

The war on 'terrah' is a helluva drug.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:16 | 4918297 The Phallic Crusader
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My first junk!

Why?!!

You fucker!!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:21 | 4919246 7.62x54r
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If you don't offend enough to get a few downvotes, you are doing it wrong.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:11 | 4918263 Joe A
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Western news media outcry of shock in 3...2...1.....

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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:12 | 4918269 Haager
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Is it just me or are the threads regarding Ukraine filled with trolling dimwits, filled by hate but not having the slightest clue about world policies and economy? Propaganda victims or -messenger-trolls...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:13 | 4918285 Joe A
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I have seen new ZH members commenting on anything related to Ukraine, taking either position. People who signed up ago 5 or 10 weeks ago, half a year max.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:22 | 4919251 7.62x54r
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I signed up recently as well. Shit is heating up.

The obvious government trolls do make great piniatas.

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 03:23 | 4920592 gold_pa3ot
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u r a russian slut, we see it >)

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:12 | 4918273 thamnosma
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So what happens when we have Mexican insurgents?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:24 | 4919254 7.62x54r
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They get free greyhound bus tickets.

The only thing Obama is good at is waging war against the United States of America.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:12 | 4918274 Retuwe
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Wonder, why do some people support russian terrorists and their crimes only because disliking USA? Is it Ukrainian fault that nobody except USA can help us against Russia?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:28 | 4919263 7.62x54r
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I'm an American. I don't dislike the USA. I do dislike Obama.

Obama is our first communist president, and is doing his utmost to destroy this country. He has lost in Iraq, he will lose in Afghanistan, and he is fixing to lose in the Ukraine. Hitching your wagon to Obama was an epic fail, and a lot of Ukrainians will get killed because of it.

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 02:10 | 4920529 Retuwe
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"Hitching our wagon" to Putin will cause lost of Ukrainian sovereignty and Ukraine as a country at all. We do not love USA/Obama/EU, we are afraid of Russia. Europe and China have heavy economic interests in Russia and can only tell us about their "deep concern" without any other help. Sure, USA has a lot of own political/economical interests in Ukraine (basically, they want to make big money) but it's less dangerous than Putin's targets.

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 05:26 | 4920709 tonyw
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"a lot of Ukrainians will get killed because of it" 

but the sociopath oligarchs don't care about ordinary ukrainians just so long as they can keep the money they have looted from the ordinary people.

much like "our" oligarchs don't care about us, they just want more

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/06/28/cold-war-renewed-vengeance-wa...

 

 

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:45 | 4919322 WTFUD
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If you believe the USSA is your only friend who can save you, you're well and truly fucked dough head.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:15 | 4918295 thamnosma
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The problem with war is that people get killed. 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:32 | 4918358 Circle of DNA
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The Ukie reptiles were told by their Wall Street masters to kill anything that does not qualify as a Ukie reptile.

 

Their only targets seem to be schools, hospitals and homes.

The funny thing is that the Ukie Zio-Nazis claim some sort of genetic superiority and yet even visually their "leaders" all look like child molesting degenerates. No wonder they are welcomed in Brussels.


The Saker has some of the best articles on this subject:

'http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ca/

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:32 | 4919273 7.62x54r
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"zio-nazis" The mind just reels at that fractally insane concept.

Regardless, I do agree with your characterization of the current leadership there. This will end in tears. Chumming up with Obama will get them all killed.

Thu, 07/03/2014 - 04:05 | 4920628 gold_pa3ot
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3 weeks on ZH? ruskie troll? go fuck yourself

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:31 | 4918365 luftmensch
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Putin's paid propaganda army is actively spamming ZH and other sites:

"Vladimir Putin uses an invisible army of social media propagandists, in addition to conventional media, to support his narrative of an out-of-control Ukraine, to spread fabrications of atrocities by Ukrainian extremists, and to unleash destabilizing rumors on east Ukraine." (Forbes, May 11, 2014)

"within a few minutes of my posting of just about any Russia or Ukraine article on Forbes.com, the trolls flood the comments section with insulting, cajoling, combative, and ad hominem attacks, overwhelming the possibility of any meaningful dialog. I am not alone. The Guardian readers’ editor reports 40,000 comments a day by an “orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign” of pro-Russia trolling on Ukraine stories."

Ukrainian Facebook posting: “We have not killed one Russian, we did not take their land or introduce troops on their territory, did not grab their resources. We simply became a free people for one week. Is this enough for Russia to declare war on us with a unanimous decision and the full approval of the Russian people! Why do they hate us? Because of freedom? Because of different thinking?

"The highly professional poll shows an overwhelming majority of Ukrainian citizens want Russia only as a friendly neighbor with open borders and no visas. Some 12.5 percent want Russia and Ukraine as one country, reaching a high of twenty percent in the East and 25 percent in the Crimean south. An unoccupied Ukraine would not voluntarily join the corrupt and dysfunctional Russia."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/03/10/putins-big-li...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/11/inside-putins...

http://www.ukrainianwinnipeg.ca/russian-propaganda-works-social-media/

http://news.msn.com/in-depth/russian-propaganda-war-in-full-swing-over-u...

http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-ukraine-propaganda-20140521-st...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:48 | 4918712 IndyPat
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Useless talkings.

You've spammed this thread twice with that

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:17 | 4918788 Smiley
Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:36 | 4918392 Circle of DNA
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@luftmench

Your sources are as fishy as it gets:

Forbs?, msn?, latimes? ukranianwinnipeg?

What kind of imbecile would read this garbage?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:48 | 4918442 aminorex
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An imbecile with a genius IQ who doesn't have Putin's naughty bits stuck in his mouth.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:10 | 4918530 Circle of DNA
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You must be speaking from a position of deep knowledge on the subject of naughty bit chewing.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:38 | 4918398 teslaberry
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ghenghis khan would have entire cities populations heads cut off. 

 

just to be sure everyone was murdered, he would frequently have is army return to a ravaged city the day AFTER everyone was murdered in order to find those hidden people who inevitably emerged from their hiding places to mourn the dead, the day after. 

 

consider how efficient the khans were at mass murder with SHARPENED BLADES> they had a system for dividing all the people up amongst the warriors who were all tasked with lopping people's heads off. 

 

they didn't burry or burn the dead. there were far too many. they would just let ROT and animals take care of the death after they had looted the city. 

this was the fucking ghenghis mother fucking khans. no bullets, no cars, no gasoline, no tanks, no tellecommunications. just raw dog fucking badass mongol culture. 

 

so next time you bitch about war, first thank god for nuclear weapons or ww3 would have already started. cause god didn't stop ww3 from happening , nukes did. 

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 17:38 | 4919293 7.62x54r
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Cities that unconditionally surrendered to the Mongols were unharmed, and added to their trading empire.

They often ended up better than they were under their old feudal masters. Ghenghis Khan was no different than the Romans. Look up the term "The ram has touched the wall". Cities that surrendered peacefully to Rome were untouched. Once the ram touched the wall, everyone inside was going to get raped, looted, sold into slavery if they were lucky, or just killed, and the city burned.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 13:53 | 4918459 Circle of DNA
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@ teslaberry

 

Do you know that genghis khan was one of the greatest masters of propaganda? He used to hire  writers from Korea asking them to come up with the most bloodcurdling and terrifying legends about him, that were later spread among the nations that he planned to invade - as an absolute truth.

There were claims of blood rivers that would've left mountains of corpses and yet modern archeologists cannot find a single bone in the supposed places of those battles.  

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:06 | 4918509 Jano
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Americans use local Jews and facsists to kill us, Slavs.

The high noon to pay it back and kill each of them.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:17 | 4918808 JohninMK
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It is highly possible that if Putin had really wanted to take over Eastern Ukraine he would have already done so.

It would have been very easy for the Russians to strike south from West Russia, with troops already there and ready to go and cut off the whole of the East. Probably have done it in a couple of days as this is perfect tank county and he would have had air supremacy. Ukraine is not in NATO and even if they were no-one would have helped, even if they had wanted to they were too far away.

But why would he want to? Russia does not have the money to support them.

http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/...

The Ukraine is an economic basket case needing 10s of Billions to keep it going even before the civil war started. This is a classic case of a country going to war to hide its disasterous financial position which is even worse now.

All we hear about is the gas pipe closed, but potentially as important are the road and rail links, both for through traffic and local inport/export. The railways are being attacked.

If the EU are really patting themselves on the back just wait until staving Ukrainians turn to them for massive amounts of help. Talk about a phyrric victory.

 

 

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:22 | 4918835 JohninMK
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New declaration of truce in Ukraine by Ukraine/Russia/France/Germany

http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/rusvesna.su/news/1404326838

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:17 | 4919057 luftmensch
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Poem written by a Ukranian soldier:

“Khutin Puy”
Listen, Putin’s Rus
You came to me with a machine gun
You covered your face with pantyhose
You speak a language of cusswords.
Plowing my fields with a tank,
You sow mines instead of wheat
By leaving soldiers’ footwraps
Soaked through in lies.

If only he thought in 1945,
My grandfather, tired from war,
That a man that was once his brother,
Is now my country’s enemy.
Hello, fascist Russia,
Why do you need my country?
Putin has schizophrenia!
But you.. but you..
Are not sick!

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