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Venture Capitalist Buys Entire Stash Of 'Silk Road' Bitcoins At US Marshall Auction

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A single entity successfully scooped up the entire ~30,000 haul of Bitcoins that the US government seized from Silk Road. The successful bidder at the government's auction was V.C. Tim Draper (in partnership with Vaurum) who is infamous as the ideator of viral marketing, a marketing method for spreading a software application from customer to customer (making one wonder if the $19 million bid was more publicity stunt that investment). However, Vaurum has launched trading platforms in emerging markets, and we will be partnering with Tim to leverage the pool of ~30,000+ bitcoins as a liquidity source. The price of Bitcoin continues to rise, now at $650 - up from around $570 when the auction began.

 

 

Tim offered this in a statement:

Bitcoin frees people from trying to operate in a modern market economy with weak currencies.
With the help of Vaurum and this newly purchased bitcoin, we expect to
be able to create new services that can provide liquidity and confidence
to markets that have been hamstrung by weak currencies.

 

Of course, no one is totally secure in holding their own country’s currency. We want to enable people to hold and trade bitcoin to secure themselves against weakening currencies.”

 

Mr. Draper's background...

Timothy Cook Draper is an American venture capital investor. Tim Draper founded Draper Associates in July, 1985, which when joined by John Fisher and Steve Jurvetson became the venture capital firm Draper Fisher Jurvetson (now DFJ). The firm’s investments include Skype, Hotmail, Tesla, Baidu, Theranos, Athenahealth, Solar City, Box, and Parametric Technology among many others. Tim Draper created the DFJ Network, a global network of venture funds who work together to improve service to entrepreneurs, covering 30 cities around the world. Current firms include Draper Nexus (Tokyo), DFJ Athena (Seoul), DFJ Dragon (Shanghai, Beijing), DFJ Esprit (London), among others with domestic offices in NY, LA, Pittsburg, Austin, as well as the hub in Menlo Park, CA. Tim is the ideator of viral marketing, a marketing method for spreading a software application from customer to customer, instrumental to the successes of Hotmail and Skype among others. He is an active angel investor, who has invested in more than 1000 private companies to date.

 

He is the third in a line of venture capitalists. His father, William Henry Draper III, founded the Draper & Johnson Investment Company in 1962 and his grandfather William Henry Draper Jr. founded Draper, Gaither and Anderson in 1958. His father also was chairman and president of the Export-Import Bank of the United States.

 

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Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:07 | 4917306 gh0atrider
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CLASSIC FONESTAR ACTION

 

Satoshi we adore you!!!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:12 | 4917338 CPL
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Who doesn't want to be part of the worlds largest project to find out what the message says at the end of the 21 million coins.  21 million coins all part of a 21 million piece encrypted puzzle, and once together offer a message.  Message could be anything really.  Might be the meaning of life...or be a cookie recipe.

Thing is no one knows until the riddle is solved.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:14 | 4917344 gh0atrider
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It's the DNA to the universe.  Satoshi thought of everything!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:15 | 4917350 CPL
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Satoshi being the direct translation, well older translation, of Friend.  Might even be the 'missing tablet' with easy to read instructions in ten languages and video plus maps.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:27 | 4917392 CH1
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WAIT...

Bitcoin isn't dead???

The price is going UP????

I thought....

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:38 | 4917428 TheHound73
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Bitcoin is a type 1 everywhere simultaneous planetary currency.  It doesn't die.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:58 | 4917513 CrazyCooter
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He paid in gold, right? Traded some working capital for em, right?

Oh, just an electronic wire transfer.

Seems legit. Carry on.

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 10:34 | 4917655 TheHound73
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Yes, the terms and conditions of the exchange were all defined by the U.S. Marshalls office: http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/bitcoins/

Personally, I acquire most of my bitcoins in direct exchange for my labor.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:23 | 4917799 Stackers
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They are correct in their target market. There are billions of "un-banked" people in countries too poor and/or unstable to support a banking system.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:27 | 4918609 Toolshed
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But they can afford the hardware and software, and do have the technical expertise to conduct digital transactions?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 14:43 | 4918690 crazytechnician
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If somebody is smart enough to use a cellphone they are smart enough to use bitcoin. But in your case I am not sure about that.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:07 | 4918795 DirtyWilly
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One of these days you'll be forced to say something nice about Bitcoin without a back-handed comment Tylers, and I'll be there, mark my words, I'll be there.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:12 | 4918810 Toolshed
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So, in what country can the citizens not afford a banking system, but can afford a cell network, or sattelite phones? You are apparently not smart enough to think past you next insult, much less the end game of bitcoin, or who invented it, or why. Winning!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:35 | 4918825 crazytechnician
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Bitcoin opens the global economy to the UNBANKED . There are 5 billion UNBANKED people on this planet. 90% of these people have cellphones. Bitcoin technology provides access to the global economy & global markets WITHOUT the requirement for a banking system , all that is required is a cellphone and free software. I am hoping you will get it in the end.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:40 | 4918913 waddlington
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Quite a few countries in Africa more or less fit that description.

http://qz.com/218988/how-to-manage-all-your-financial-affairs-from-a-20-...

"What’s more, in nine African countries—Cameroon, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Gabon, Kenya, Madagascar, Tanzania, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe—mobile-money accounts now outnumber bank accounts."

Mobile-money accounts are cell phone based e-money wallets like m-pesa.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:18 | 4919061 Toolshed
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Thanks for the link. That is interesting info. However, I did not see any mention of non-sanctioned digital currencies. The only detail was concerning Kenya and it appeared all transactions were in the Kenyan shilling. I can see the utility in virtual currencies. It is my contention, however, that if that utility ever begins to undercut the established financial sector's profits and/or impact the government's ability to collect taxes, the digital currency will be promptly destroyed by the status quo. Also, as anyone who has been paying attention knows, any digital system can be hacked. And the more profit there is to gain, the greater the hacking effort. The risks seem to outweigh the benefits.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 16:28 | 4919086 crazytechnician
Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:38 | 4917869 bullchit
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Your labour? Hahahahahah, hang on, labor? HAHAHAHA....cunt,.

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 21:48 | 4920001 TheHound73
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 From every Englishman emanates a kind of gas, the deadly choke-damp of boredom.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 10:00 | 4917452 CPL
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No there are those out there faithfully plugging away at the numbers...and finding things out along the way.  Otherwise, ever heard of the origins of a pot latch? 

Literally people party to collect all the pieces together to form the full 'picture' once a year.  Bitcoins are the larger more technologically advanced version of it.  21 million pieces of a puzzle, all encrypted with more data wrapped in the puzzle that bares a certain degree of importance to everyone.

So what would the truth be worth to you?  How much would a key to a door be worth for a person for the Solomonarii?

Anycase...doesn't matter that much, it was hoped people would see it for what it was, but that is inconsequential at this time.  7.2 billion people appearently can't organise the simplest thing to accomplish.  Even when it's handed over with instructions, software, support and clues. 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 10:01 | 4917527 CrazyCooter
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Store of value?

Medium of exchange?

Unit of account?

Check, check, and check!

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 10:22 | 4917609 CPL
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Yup it's got the sound money wrapped up in a bow.  BUT an offered technology solution to a bad math problem doesn't matter much if the clients don't adopt it. 

An example; I'm on a contract somewhere and the client purchased Tivoli, which is AWESOME at doing network management and taking care of day to day operations.  Literally you can turn the entire platform into an AI to manage the back office and it doesn't come cheap as a product (around 34 million for a huge client).

This kind of creeped the managers out because it meant most of their job situations would have been considered superfluous to the operational aspects of their job.  So they shelved it.  34 million sitting on a shelf.

What the real situation was is the managers had no staff to begin with and were around 560 years behind scheduel in man hours applied projects.  What they didn't get is the machine would take care of the other machines and they could focus their real talents elsewhere like developing good projects to answer future and current requirements.  But people love hugging their gear.

Now in that situation, that was only electronic crap that was going to break and get replaced eventually.  The idea of doing the same thing to money.  LOL!  It takes considerable faith and will to make the leap, even while the financial situation is beyond repair.  Only other time the attitude is seen in a local experience is when a junkie is trying to kick their habit.  They will fight tooth and nail mentally to hold on to something that once gave pleasure and now only destroys them inside and out.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 15:01 | 4918776 Exponere Mendaces
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@CH1

Yeah, go figure, right? I thought it was the fourth "deadening". Gosh, it just keeps on going, doesn't it :)

Anyway, looking forward to the utilization of those coins instead of them being dumped on the open market, which is what most of the internet trolls thought would happen. (Another loss for them, I guess.)

We're on track for the current expansion and I think the mega-rally peak will be somewhere near the end of July into August.

See you next Bitcoin hater thread!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:27 | 4917400 CH1
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It's the DNA to the universe.  Satoshi thought of everything!

Well... I might not go that far.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 10:01 | 4917521 gh0atrider
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It always made fonestar laugh how the stackers were so worried about CMEs and ELEs taking down Visa and Mastercard as they placed their orders with APMEX.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 20:50 | 4919832 Me.Grimlock
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"squeamish ossifrage"

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:35 | 4917420 TheReplacement
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But, but, bitcoin is a protocol.  Protocols are secure and, and,...

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 10:36 | 4917661 rubiconsolutions
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I guess the entire Draper clan are a bunch of mad men. 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:02 | 4917737 CPL
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The seven lazy sons will learn how to work again.  Even if it kills them, just like last time.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:08 | 4917314 The_Peeper
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That sure is a lot of coins.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:09 | 4917319 Sudden Debt
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and yet they all fit in one wallet with room to spare

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:10 | 4917322 gh0atrider
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Yes they do!  The wonders of virtualization...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:41 | 4917436 Citxmech
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How many Quatloos for the one named Kirk?

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:47 | 4917914 bullchit
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'And what room would that be? Look around you, Grasshopper.....Are you looking for the Patsy?

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:09 | 4917315 Sudden Debt
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a marketing company... says it all about bitcoins...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:21 | 4917370 SuperRay
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The only weakness is the need for the internet to be neutral...

Oh, and that the grid continues to function..

Oh, and that they can't be hacked...

Yay..

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:44 | 4917905 Bunga Bunga
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These "dangers" of electronic money have been known for a long time.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:09 | 4917320 1000yrdstare
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TIM DRAPER IS FONESTAR!!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:21 | 4917372 gh0atrider
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My crytptose runneth over.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:11 | 4917323 _ConanTheLibert...
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My condolences with those shitcoins.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:30 | 4917407 CH1
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My condolences with those shitcoins.

LOL... yeah, sure... all those BTC holders are suffering mightily!

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 11:41 | 4917883 Al Capowned
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Yeah its really tough holding the top performing asset (by a country mile) 4 years in a row

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:13 | 4917333 booboo
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So the kings enforcers traded some free bitcoin for a shit ton FRN's?  Nice, I see where this is going.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 12:14 | 4918011 GoldMeUp
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Ew, FRN's

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:13 | 4917335 LawsofPhysics
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I'll keep sharing this information until everyone is listening.  While I do see the utility of electronic currencies in facilitating global trade, it's always an issue of faith and confidence, even in the tech world.

 

I had a very dependable kid who threw hay for me years ago.  He went to college and majored in computer science, he learned several computer languages and could write code.  He went on to get an MBA and in 2001 went to work for JPM. As he put it; "they wanted to have a strong position in electronic currencies".

 

Hedge accordingly.

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:24 | 4917361 gh0atrider
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Well too bad for JPM, their patent got rejected a million times and they missed the boat.

So gh0atrider guesses he's back bucking hay...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:26 | 4917387 LawsofPhysics
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They have had plenty of servers "mining" bitcoins or some crypo-equivalent for at least ten years as far as I can tell.  I don't think you understand how a ponzi works.  Please, JPM, like all PDs, has access to as much freshly printed FRNs as they like, that's the real problem.  Maybe someday the ignorant fucks (sheep) will get it, but I doubt it.  So long as they have limitless firepower, they can frontrun anyone in any "market".

Full faith and credit...

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:32 | 4917411 CH1
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I don't think you understand how a ponzi works.

I don't think you understand how Bitcoin works. You cannot just mine as many coins as you like.

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:35 | 4917419 LawsofPhysics
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No shit sherlock, but you can mine coins.  I am mining myself, it took resources to build that server.  The PDs have considerably more resources than I do asshat, that's the point (which you clearly missed).

 

Wed, 07/02/2014 - 09:42 | 4917445 gh0atrider
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...and then magically convince everyone on Earth to switch over from Bitcoin to your new coin?

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