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Ron Paul: Celebrate Independence Day By Opposing Government Tyranny

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Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute,

This week Americans will enjoy Independence Day with family cookouts and fireworks. Flags will be displayed in abundance. Sadly, however, what should be a celebration of the courage of those who risked so much to oppose tyranny will instead be turned into a celebration of government, not liberty. The mainstream media and opportunistic politicians have turned Independence Day into the opposite of what was intended.
 
The idea of opposing — by force if necessary — a tyrannical government has been turned into a celebration of tyrannical government itself!

The evidence is all around us.
 
How would the signers of the Declaration of Independence have viewed, for example, the Obama Administration’s “drone memo,” finally released last week, which claims to justify the president’s killing American citizens without charge, judge, jury, or oversight? Is this not a tyranny similar to that which our Founders opposed? And was such power concentrated in one branch of government not what inspired the rebellion against the English king in the first place?
 
The “drone memo,” released after an ACLU freedom of information request, purports to establish the president alone as the arbiter of who is or is not a terrorist subject to execution by the US government. There is no due process involved, just the determination of the president. Thus far the only American citizens killed by the president are Anwar al-Awlaki and his teenaged son, but the precedent has been established, according to the memo, that the president has the authority to kill Americans he believes are terrorists.
 
Even the New York Times, which generally backs whatever US administration is in power, is troubled by the White House’s legal justification to claim the authority to kill Americans. A Times editorial last week concluded that:

...the memo turns out to be a slapdash pastiche of legal theories — some based on obscure interpretations of British and Israeli law — that was clearly tailored to the desired result.

I agree with the New York Times’ conclusion that, “[t]his memo should never have taken so long to be released, and more documents must be made public. The public is still in the dark on too many vital questions.”
 
Coincidentally, in addition to the “drone memo” released last week, a broader study of the US use of drones was also released by the Stimson Center. The study, co-chaired by Gen. John Abizaid, former U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) commander, concluded that contrary to claims that drones help prevent wider conflicts by targeting specific individuals, the use of drones “may create a slippery slope leading to continual or wider wars.”
 
In fact, the study concluded, the use of drones overseas is likely counterproductive. “Civilian casualties, even if relatively few, can anger whole communities, increase anti-US sentiment and become a potent recruiting tool for terrorist organizations,” the study found.
 
Seven years ago I wrote in an Independence Day column:

Only the safe-guards and limitations that are enshrined in a constitutionally-limited republic can prohibit a nation from lurching toward empire...I hope every person who reads or hears this will take the time to go back and read the Declaration of Independence. Only by recapturing the spirit of independence can we ensure our government never resembles the one from which the American States declared their separation.

On Independence Day we should remember the spirit of rebellion against tyranny that inspired our Founding Fathers to set out our experiment in liberty. We should ourselves celebrate and continue that struggle if we are to keep our republic.

 

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Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:24 | 4924710 OceanX
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I'm celebrating by going back to the Linux OS!

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:35 | 4924739 RevRex
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We must elect our first Lesbian President for real change......

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:42 | 4924754 G.O.O.D
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Yes, we must let the village raise the family. We are in for a mega shitstorm when the wicked witch of the world order gets her talons around the levers. Look to these as the good ole days, you are going to miss them.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:49 | 4924905 CH1
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we must...

We must stop obeying people we know to be liars and thieves.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:52 | 4924915 Anusocracy
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People must realize that there is no right to form a government.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:03 | 4925057 Anusocracy
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Downvoters, please show me the right.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:03 | 4925258 CH1
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Downvoters, please show me the right.

They can't, of course, but they "just know." That's how operant conditioning works.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:18 | 4925301 Harbanger
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I down voted him.  No Society in history has or ever will exist without some form of Governance, whether you like it or not.  The question is what form of governance you will tolerate, and what will you do to ensure it represents the will of the governed.  Any thoughts on what may work in our real world,  utopian dreams are for bitchez?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:28 | 4925338 jbvtme
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he Colonial 1% (mostly masons) were sitting around the fireplace one night in 1774 digesting their slave made and slave cultivated meals, sipping french cognac. one says to the other "how will we obtain more indian land on which to grow our tobacco and enlarge our estates?  why don't we just march on them and take it?  that won't work as we could never build a force big enough PLUS we'd have england, france, germany and russia to contend with. to say nothing of the opposition from the frontier by our own people.  what can we do says one?  why not claim that england is tyrannizing us with taxation? that might work and then the french (without whose help the war could not be won and who hated england) and the germans (who also wanted to neutralize english empire) will enter as our allies and not our foes. plus, when we're done france will be bankrupt and we can steal her land to the west for a song. excellent idea, they all agreed. and a revolution was born.  what shall we call this land grab?  why not a war of independance?" they declared. suddenly they all started laughing..."we're going to need the help of some historians."

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:50 | 4925393 Harbanger
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You have no idea WTF you're talking about, there's so much BS it's impossible to respond.   If it's right for you just go with it.  I would feel pity for you but I've lost all sympathy.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 18:22 | 4925609 Not Too Important
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He's really not that far off. If you believe there was a 'war' in the first place. Masons killing Masons in those days? I think not.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 19:36 | 4925723 hedgeless_horseman
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At least I still have free will, and that is no small thing.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:01 | 4925915 Harbanger
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What it means to be an American needs to be understood again HH.  We have always been different and for good reason.  After the global reset we have to define ourselves again, clearly and with purpose.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 10:44 | 4926408 Analyse2
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"we have to define ourselves again"

Well said. It begins by trying to know the true US History - outside Hollywood glorifications and childish cartoons

This week Americans will enjoy Independence. The fact is that they wouldn't be celebrating the birth of this Nation today without the French.

This leads to a few embarrassing questions:

- Have the French ever been invited to the celebrations - like the American are kindly invited in Normandy every year for the remembering of D-Day June 6, 1944 (this year with Obama)?

- Where is the memorial in Washington for the 5,000 sailors of French Navy who died for US Independence at the battle of the Chesapeake, and for the French soldiers led by Comte de Rochambeau (more than half of the fighting troops) at the decisive battle of Yorktown?

Happy 4th of July

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 17:49 | 4925539 Libertarian777
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this is a oft-quoted miscontruction of the libertarian argument.

Most liberatrians are against a large CENTRAL (i.e. federal) government.

While large state government (like California) is no better, it is easier to control and closer to the people than an unaccountable king 2500 miles away.

People also confuse government for 'organization'. Lack of government doesn't mean libertarians don't like to plan or are against organizations. 

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:33 | 4925174 PoliticalRefuge...
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  I didn't abandon the US, the US abandoned me.

..Every decent man comes to the realization he is ashamed of the government he lives under...H L Mencken.

  I cannot respect an utterly duplicitous and criminal enterprise any longer- I certainly owe no allegiance to a criminal cartel so this is just a day of mourning for many of us..

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:36 | 4925962 Redhotfill
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Heil Hillary!

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:14 | 4924835 NOTW777
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"A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."  ring any bells?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:17 | 4924843 NOTW777
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"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:25 | 4924863 G.O.O.D
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Ok, you charge that tank with your .22 rifle and I will video it for the youtubeular. We will get this "throw off the gov" idea of which you speak under way.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:51 | 4924911 CH1
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Just stop obeying.

Why is that scarier than shedding blood?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:06 | 4924952 Anusocracy
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Government rules by the consent of the useless idiots.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 10:17 | 4931416 N2OJoe
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As demonstrated by the Ukranians, Molotov's are more effective than .22's... and cheaper too!

Though the .22 may come in handy when the hatch pops open.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:12 | 4924968 G.O.O.D
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Ok you try not paying the IRS and see what happens. Believe me from experience, you wont like the end results.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:31 | 4925018 Anusocracy
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Depends on what sort of lifestyle you want.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:49 | 4925054 Harbanger
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Is living in a civilized society free of tyranny too much to ask?  There's no freedom in running.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:54 | 4925064 Anusocracy
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That's why I'm for panarchism.

Voluntarily enslaved and voluntarily free coexisting side by side.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:59 | 4925080 Harbanger
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Never happen, the free will inspire the enslaved to revolt.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:10 | 4925097 Anusocracy
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Eventually. Beliefs will prevail at first, the reason for rejecting them must be greater.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:29 | 4925220 jbvtme
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moved

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:20 | 4924990 sessinpo
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CH1    Just stop obeying.

Why is that scarier than shedding blood?

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Who says you won't shed blood by not obeying?

Government has the monopoly on legalized violence.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:50 | 4925052 Jumbotron
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Just stop obeying.

Why is that scarier than shedding blood?

What examples can you share.....hhhmm?

Have you stopped paying ALL your taxes....Federal, State, Local, Property ?

Have you stopped paying for your car tag....your government mandated car insurance in order to have a driver's license and even paying for the driver's license itself ?

Do you refuse to pay the asked price for EVERYTHING until the check out counter person subtracts Sales Tax ?

Shut the fuck up.  You OBEY every....single.....waking....minute of the day.  How do I know?  Because government goons have not come knocking on your door demanding you obey and pay up at the tip of a gun.  And you haven't died yet defending your right to disobey.  So shut the fuck up.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:14 | 4925112 Anusocracy
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There are millions and millions of people that don't pay taxes.

They are .gov employees that return taxes and those in businesses that only have .gov as a client.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:27 | 4925152 Jumbotron
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That fact has nothing to do with not obeying our masters as proposed by CH!  The people who don't pay taxes....(and I assume you mean Fed and/or State) are not payinng taxes through disobendience.  It's just because of their income status, the state they live in etc.  If they buy ANYTHING they pay a tax either direct sales tax or a tax that has already been appropriated on the raw goods that made up the finished good they may have bought tax free.

My income is so low per my family size that I have not paid Federal Income tax in nearly 10 years.  I don't even have Fed taxes withheld from my paycheck anymore.  I pay no state income tax....(Florida).  But I pay every other tax.....(S.S., Medicaid, sales, property, driver's license, car tag, hunting and fishing "fees".

And even if all these things were tax free in Florida the prices of everythng reflect taxs appropriated on the raw goods that went into the manufacture of the finished good.

EVERYBODY obeys.  There is not....nor will there ever be....a time in which ANY of us can ever truly disobey the system.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:14 | 4925289 CH1
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Ah, so it has to be either 0% or 100%?

20% or 40% or 60% don't exist?

They do in my world.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:08 | 4925274 CH1
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Shut the fuck up. 

Hit a nerve, did I?

You OBEY every.... single..... waking.... minute of the day. 

No, I don't.

How do I know?  Because government goons have not come knocking on your door demanding you obey and pay up at the tip of a gun.  And you haven't died yet defending your right to disobey. 

Sorry to disappoint you, but dot-guv is not God. Nor are they geniuses, nor are they even average.

So shut the fuck up.

No, I think I'll disobey you. Have a nice day.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:32 | 4925348 Jumbotron
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You OBEY every.... single..... waking.... minute of the day. 

No, I don't.

Lying, self deluded cunt.....you do.  

 

How do I know?  Because government goons have not come knocking on your door demanding you obey and pay up at the tip of a gun.  And you haven't died yet defending your right to disobey. 

Sorry to disappoint you, but dot-guv is not God. Nor are they geniuses, nor are they even average.

Thanks for answering my charge that .Gov goons have not harassed you for not obeying their rules.  You do obey....therefore no harrassement....even to the point of imprisonment and death]


 

So shut the fuck up.

No, I think I'll disobey you. Have a nice day.

I said that not as an order to obey or disobey.  Just to see if you are a mouthy little cunt that talks big about disobedience but really does nothing about it.  Thanks for clarifying you are.  Have a nice, deluded day.


 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 18:11 | 4925592 Exponere Mendaces
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Jumbotron is one of those "special" forum posters that thinks things in bold and saying fuck fuck fuck is the way to "win".

He's a parody of himself, the typical middle-aged white american idiot that can't understand why most of the world looks down on him and his government. Keep on shouting you rube, if only to provide ample warning for those who would rather cross the street.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:15 | 4924976 Harbanger
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Today we wouldn't have the courage or conviction to sign the death warrant known as the Declaration of Independence.
Instead we whine like little bitchez, knock anyone who doesn't meet our full expectations of perfection, and hope for a Prince to come save us.  Bitchez submit, they don't control their destiny.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:15 | 4925298 CH1
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Today we wouldn't have the courage or conviction to sign the death warrant known as the Declaration of Independence.

There are such people at all times.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:26 | 4925330 Harbanger
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Of course, but they are not united, they are disorganized and think bitchin will make a difference.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:39 | 4925964 Redhotfill
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Obviously you don't know that 22 ammo is impossible to find these days

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:10 | 4924962 Anusocracy
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"ruler of a free people"

Free people don't have rulers.

Take off your blinders.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:21 | 4924995 Harbanger
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That's right, Free people have representatives not rulers.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:43 | 4925039 Anusocracy
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As an Asperger's, I assume that's sarcasm.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:57 | 4925072 Harbanger
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I'm the ruler of my home, which by extension is a tribe.  There's no democracy in my tribe.  I'm a member of a social group.  We elect a representative, I've ruled over the tribes of others, now someone else does.  What do you mean?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:17 | 4925123 Anusocracy
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Families are nascent governments.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:31 | 4925169 Harbanger
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Good point.  The larger society is an outgrowth of the basic tribal family unit.   Liberty is our human evolution beyong the dependance on chief daddy tribal figure, but it requires direct involvement and appreciation

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:22 | 4924856 junction
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Why Linux OS?                                                                                        ----                                                                                                Two jokes for the day.  For today only, July 4th, an escort service is providing the services of one of its prostitutes for $17.76.  But only if the guy is a Minuteman.

Joke #2 is Obama describing himself as a constitutional scholar.  The kill list  Obama claims is no different than a bill of attainder, which the U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits.

"The Constitution prohibits both the federal government (in Article I, Section 9) and the states (in Article I, Section 10, Clause 1) from passing either bills of attainder or ex post facto laws. The Framers considered freedom from bills of attainder and ex post facto laws so important that these are the only two individual liberties that the original Constitution protects from both federal and state intrusion. 

In common law, bills of attainder were legislative acts that, without trial, condemned specifically designated persons or groups to death."

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:52 | 4924916 CH1
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Linux Mint for the win.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:11 | 4924967 Anusocracy
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Using Linux Mint 15 on a flash drive.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:10 | 4925280 CH1
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Nice. :)

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:35 | 4925351 Temporalist
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Does the NSA allow you to connect to the internet from FEMA camps?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 17:17 | 4925458 messymerry
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The Amnesiac Incognito Live System (TAILS...)

https://tails.boum.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amnesic_Incognito_Live_System

WTF!  There's a drone hovering over my house.  Damn precogs at the Nimrod Security Agency knew I was going to post this.  GOTTA GO!!!

Happy 4th Everybody!

;-D

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:44 | 4925040 Jumbotron
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"I'm celebrating by going back to the Linux OS!"

AMEN to that brother.  6 computers in my house for wife and kids and all but the wife's is Linux....( she's still afraid of Linux, plus she still believes in America)

After using Red Hat Fedora, CentOS, openSuse, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, and Linux Mint.....I have come back around to openSuse.  This is a German distribution originally, but the enterprise version is now owned by Novell of Netware fame.

So....openSuse is the community edition of Suse by Novell.....much like Red Hat Fedora is the community version of Red Hat Enterprise.

I have found it less flakey than ANY of the Debian based distributions such as Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Linux Mint and MUCH easier to find and install software than Red Hat.  There is just a polish and tightness to openSuse that I have not found over the long term with the other distributions mentioned.

But no matter what distribution that works for you.....Linux is software freedom.  You pick the distribution that's right for you.  You pick the GUI that's right for you....(if you like a Mac OS X flavor go with GNOME....if you like a Windows 7 look go with KDE.....if you have a old, slow computer go with XFCE or Flux.

It's software independence from the FED/GOV fascist Microsoft.

And if you are worried about finding Microsoft equilvalents to software you need or are familiar with.....try these sites to find what you are lookig for if you intend to try out Lnux.

 

http://www.linuxalt.com/

http://www.osalt.com/

http://alternativeto.net/?platform=linux

 

Remember....Microsoft is dead man walking.  Internet Explorer is being ecliped by Firefox.  Windows Mobile is dead.  They lost the contract with Ford for in car entertainment OS.  They killed the Zune, their iPod "killer", Windows 8 is a COMPLETE DISASTER, Windows is losing marketshare in every market segment.

And it's being killed by open source and Linux.  Every Android phone runs on Linux....that's what Android is.  Every streaming TV device, Roku, Boxee, Netgear etc....either runs Linux or Android which is Linux.  The other streaming device is Apple TV which run iOS which is derived from Unix.  The vast majority of servers that run the internet and the world's supercomputers run on Linux.  Entire governments and school systems world wide are switching to Linux.  Google's Chromebooks which runs ChromeOS are Linux computers because that's what ChromeOS is based on.

Linux is not only computing's future.....it's its present right now.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 18:45 | 4925639 OceanX
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Yes, Suse Linux was the very first one I installed ...97?  In fact, that is what I just donwloaded.  I did like kde better than Gnome.  But, I just used a window manager, AfterStep I think. 

I've used Redhat and of course Debian, the CS lab at UT were Debian boxes, back then.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:56 | 4925239 Hubbs
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I too am now starting to consider and research going to Linux.

Microsoft has perfected the art of the monopoly, not created any new technology. Rather, it has used it's money club to squeeze out, buy out or bully out all the other companies that were doing all the innovation-maybe with the exception of Apple, which finally got a a rock from its sling to hit Microsoft. But now even Apple abuses customers. I bought a bunch of Apple stuff to revolt aginst Microsoft, but I do that no longer. 

 

I think back to the Windows 1995 and look at what I have now- no btter effcetively after paying Microsoft over and over and over and over for the same thing. Upgrades only because they alternatively screw up "new" operating systems. Vista, Windows 8, etc.

And now I am getting not responding error messages on the latest Word for Windows on my Windows 7. I did better back in 1995.

Fuck you Microsoft!

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:50 | 4925392 Jumbotron
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Welcome out of the Matrix, Hubbs

What's brilliant about Linux and more importantly Open Source...is that a LOT of the best open source software is also available for Windows and the Mac.  You can try a LOT of stuff on your existing platforms before going over to Linux.

Such as....

VLC media player.

LibreOffice ( a complete free and open source alternative to Microsoft Office Professional )

Handbrake Media Transcoder

Dia ( a free open source alternative to Visio )

Gimp ( a free open source alternative to Photoshop )

Blender ( a free open source alternative to Lightwave 3d )

Inkscape ( a free open source alternative to Adobe Illustrator )

Scribus ( a free open source alternative to Quark Desktop Publishing )

Pidgin ( IM client )

Celestia and Stellarium ( astronomy and virtual planetariums )

SciLab ( a MATLAB alternative for math computation and visualization )

 

This is just to name a few of the Linux programs that can run on Mac OS X and Windows as well.  This way...your transistion to Linux is much easier and productive. 

Check out the Linux alternative sites I listed above to not only find Linux alternatives but Open Source programs that can also run on Mac OS X and Windows as well.

 

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:25 | 4924711 G.O.O.D
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Ok Ronnie, we will start by voting out that POS son of yours. Hows that for a start you slimy fvk?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:29 | 4924718 Emergency Ward
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Yes, Ron, you really do need to sit down with Rand and tell him he doesn't have keep gagging himself on Big Govt cock.  Tell him to flaunt his independence and not to worry about a 99-1 vote.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:31 | 4924726 G.O.O.D
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Big Gov/ ISRAELI Cock.. FIFY

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:01 | 4924797 BLOTTO
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Imo, RP is not the white wizard we are looking for...

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:53 | 4924921 CH1
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RP was never a wizard, he was, and is, a teacher.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:10 | 4924953 BLOTTO
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I know RP is a likeable guy with his policies, ideas and what he says...i get that as well.

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Its just that im so skeptical of everything - look at the state of this planet - that anyone on the illuminati controlled MSM that they show us - we must be suspicious, scrutinize and dissect their true intentions...thats all.

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At least this way we have the bases covered...if 100% of us are giving a reach around to RP and tickling his nuts - thats not good either. Ill be the fall guy for it if im wrong...but im watchin.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:42 | 4924753 BigJim
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I fucking love Ron Paul, but it must break his heart to see what an Israeli-firster his son has turned out to be. Read it and weep:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/381726/tragedy-israel-rand-paul

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:43 | 4924756 G.O.O.D
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Fruit falling.. tree.. ring any bells?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4924766 BigJim
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Pro-gold-standard Howard Buffet, and his bankster son Warren?

Ayn Rand and Alan Greenspan (not that they were related, obviously)?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:54 | 4924781 putaipan
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i like ron paul enough.....but if he's such a 'truthteller', how come he never mentioned any of this stuff- http://truthtalk13.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/the-non-violent-revolution-b...

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:52 | 4924920 thamnosma
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Because he was waiting for your messianic message

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:40 | 4924895 J S Bach
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I like what Ron Paul has to say, too.  But, I'm also quite disenchanted with him since his mousy campaign against Mitt Romney a few years back.  I actually contributed to his fund raising "bombs" on the internet and was appalled when he let the shenanigans in the New Hampshire primary go without a peep of protest. (You recall he clearly won the vote, but the Republicans cheated in favor of Romney.)  The war party couldn't allow the chance of an upstart like Paul to sweep through the primaries so early on.

Paul could have easily contested the fraudulent count and his young supporters would have been with him kicking and screaming... but he just shrugged his shoulders and moved on to the next charade state primary.

He's got good ideas, but he's no leader.  Nor is his obsequious son.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:53 | 4924924 thamnosma
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Looking forward to you getting out on the campaign trail.  No doubt you would be fucking perfect.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:58 | 4925038 J S Bach
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Thank you for the compliment!

 

I can tell you this...

were it my job as a candidate running for President - and my followers were dishing out millions of their hard-earned dollars for my campaign - I would fight every discrepency the corrupt establishment could throw at me.

Admittedly, I am not leadership material.  But, that does not negate any opinions I may air regarding a politician who claims to be the leader of a movement.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:16 | 4924983 G.O.O.D
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He took the money and ran. In my book that = slimy.. wtf is wrong with you people on here? just because this guy SAYS what you want to hear, but does absofvkinlutletly NOTHING, remember his audit of the fed? Wow ronnie sure scared those guys didnt he? s h i t.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:41 | 4924897 optimator
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Cut him some slack.  Ron Paul's honesty was his downfall.  Politicians can't be honest.   Don't knock Rand's visit or two to the Wailing Wall.  If Dad had made a few trips there he just may have had a chance at being heard.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:12 | 4924930 J S Bach
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Sorry to disagree, Optimator... but I think that Ron Paul's "honesty" was precisely what attracted so many people to his cause.  An honest politician is indeed rare... that's why when one comes along, we need to give them all the support we can muster.

The comment regarding the Wailing Wall needs no rebuttal.  It says it all if one reads between the lines.  Anyone who licks the ass of Israel will be undoubtedly showered upon with funds and laudatory acclaim.  And this unnatural state of affairs must cease if our true sovereignty and destiny as a Republic is ever to be reclaimed.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:02 | 4924807 Dublinmick
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And Ron, please stop flashing mano carnuto devil sign to your friends.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:26 | 4924714 WorkingFool
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Happy Government Dependency Day!

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:46 | 4924764 Squid Viscous
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i'm going to celebrate by watching Saving Ryan's Privates with a tub of vaseline

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:04 | 4924715 Number 156
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The problem with any form of government is its tendency to succumb to corruption.

That is something the authors of that document fully understood. They fled from such corruption.
So to prevent this form occurring, they attempted to put in place several mechanisms to counter such corruption. Unfortunately, all of them have failed.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:31 | 4924717 Sudden Debt
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It's mostly people who don't give a fuck about history that makes this possible.

Over here, almost nobody can sing our national anthem... Even our prime minister was singing the brabansone... The french national anthem because he simply didn't know it.

Our country was founded in 1830. We had 5 kings since, almost nobody knows their names. Almost nobody knows the heroes of our history.
Belgium existed long before 1830, that history... 99.9999% has no clue about it. And believe me, the history is awesome.

People are lazy and only know shit they just seen on discovery. And 2 months later, they'll have forgotten it.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:51 | 4924771 BigJim
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If the parents don't teach the kids... or insist their teachers do... then the past vanishes from public consciousness in a generation.

TPTB don't want indigenous people to feel they 'belong' to any particular heritage; might limit their appetite for unlimited NWO. Only immigrants are taught to feel proud of who they are; that way the cultural cohesion of whatever society they find themselves in will be weakened.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:06 | 4924819 Dublinmick
Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:07 | 4924821 25or6to4
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@SD
You guys have a memory for up to two months? Wow, that's fantastic. Over on this side of the pond it's about two minutes on average. Please gives us you secret.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:36 | 4926054 Kprime
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I did give you the secret, five times now.  Remember?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:51 | 4925058 lotsoffun
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sudden debt -  moules frites.  stuck between the germans, the french and the british.  lovely place to have a 'pitch'.  much like poland stuck between the russian and germans.

can we just stop killing each other for no reason other than bernacke and dimons?

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:29 | 4924720 Omegaman2211
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Fuck that. Celebrate Independence Day by opposing government. Period.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:29 | 4924722 cherry picker
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Dependence Day 2014

Obama is guilty of murder, and it doesn't make a difference if the victim is an American Citizen or not, we are all human beings.

I never thought I would see the day that so many Americans are folding as they do not have the guts to go without.

Heroes are few and far between.  It appears most have vanished in North America

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:34 | 4924734 G.O.O.D
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Obama cant hold a candle to Hitlery/Billery da fvkin clitwoman when it comes to murder.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:34 | 4924735 Omegaman2211
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When everyone is a hero, no one is.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:20 | 4924852 25or6to4
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@Cherry Picker
Your surprised americuns don't have the guts to go without? As long as the pizza is hot and the beer is cold; sports on the idiot box; forever ruhtiremunt and the ability to drive new every two, most americuns don't give a shit about anything.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:34 | 4926052 Kprime
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Now to celebrate the freedom of depends.  With depends you can be anyone and go anywhere.  We depend on depends.  Obama forgot his depends and now he is leaking shit everywhere.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:30 | 4924724 Reaper
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We've replaced King George with king obama, who "has erected a multitude of new Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, eating out their substance." Servitude with benefits replaces freedom.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:32 | 4924730 goldhedge
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INDEPENDENCE DAY...my a$$

 

America lost it a very long time ago.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:39 | 4924746 G.O.O.D
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Signed by slave owners. Now there is an oxymoron when it comes to freedom. It was never free from the beginning. Just more bullshit to sooth the proles, because they knew/know those pitchforks are sharp.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:59 | 4924790 Omegaman2211
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The state of denial the one's downvoting you are living in is beyond my comprehension.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:09 | 4924830 mofreedom
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We know our history...just read the first draft of the declaration of independence...Abe Lincoln referenced it often...you try getting a bunch of sothern hillbillies

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:13 | 4924832 mofreedom
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To vote for succession with anti-slavery language in it.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:19 | 4924854 Dr. Destructo
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This nation has never adhered to its constitution, nor has America ever been about freedom. It has always stood for division, exploitation for the people, and profits for the "Captains of Industry". Even the revolutionary and civil wars were sham wars where we shed our blood while the likes of Washington, Franklin, and the rest make out like bandits.

The founding fucks were afraid of true freedom, and that whole schtick about how the majority would violate the individual rights was complete nonsense since they were indeed slave owners as you point out; in truth, were truly afraid of the majority (us proles) striking at the rich.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:30 | 4924872 G.O.O.D
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Fvkme blind, I been shining a light but these shitstains on here just cant see. Must have bags over their heads or sumpin?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:50 | 4924909 Omegaman2211
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The brainwashing runs deep, even for libertarians.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:20 | 4924992 Dr. Destructo
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You're up against decades of indoctrination, and centuries of mythology and rewritten history.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:28 | 4925012 G.O.O.D
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And not to mention that bigtitted bitch on the MSM that smiles with perfect teeth during the hypnotic mind fvk.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 15:10 | 4925102 Lea
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Absolutely right, Dr. Destructo. The Founding Fathers were dead scared of the people, which is why they forwent the universal suffrage (what some dumb Americans mistake for direct democracy, which is another story altogether). To them, "democracy was mob rule".

And plenty of conservative Americans hold on to that "democracy is mob rule" meme for dear life, because it's the only history the country has (that and, of course, "great intellectual figures" like Benjamin Franklin, the worst moralistic prig that ever disgraced this earth).

They can't even see all the troubles of America are down to this hate and fear of the people, which they in turn echo by hating anyone they consider "inferior" to themselves (generally the Blacks/Jews/Zionists/Popists/you name it).

The country needs a complete reset, in my opinion. And first, it needs to learn to trust itself (I mean its majority). Unlike what the Founding Shmucks thought (and as George Orwell pointed out), the majority is nearly always sensible and of good will. What the average Joe wants is 1) not to go hungry, 2) a roof over his head, 2) a job that pays correctly, 3) a loved one he can feel secure with, 4) job security for his future, 5) proper schools for his children, 6) safety for his family, 7) job opportunities for his family, 8) peace.

He'll vote accordingly.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 17:36 | 4925507 falconflight
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like Pol Pot maybe?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:15 | 4924975 sessinpo
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G.O.O.D   Signed by slave owners. Now there is an oxymoron when it comes to freedom. It was never free from the beginning. Just more bullshit to sooth the proles, because they knew/know those pitchforks are sharp.

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I did not downvote you. But frankly I am getting quite tired of the pitch fork and hang em rope comments. Anyone with a history of knowledge knows that such actions only changes the names of the elites you despise. Do you think an elite is worried about your pitch fork from his private jet to some island? In the meantime, you'll have an oppressive government calling yoiu a terrorist for having said pitch fork. Welcome to FEMA camp G.O.O.D. And that isn't an oxymoron, but simply ironic.

After thousands of years of resets from time to time, you would think that oligarchs and elites would be extinct by now. But they are not for a reason. A reaons you  haven't figured out and thus have no solution. But hey, I don't have a solution either. But at least I know that a rope or pitch fork doesn't solve the problem. If it did, we won't be in the situation we are today.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:25 | 4925006 G.O.O.D
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Nowhere did i SAY pitchforks are the answer.  Where you get off putting words in my mouth, but was it not violence (hence my pitchfork comment) that founded these United States? And is it not violence that overthrows governments left right and central across the world as I type this? And is it not pitchforks that draws lines in the sand and says this dirt is now called err.. lets say.. LIBERIA for an example? Pitchforks are always used by humans to start, defend and over throw countries/tyrannical regimes. Of course the modern day pitchforks are nasty and leave a poisonous wound.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 17:35 | 4925505 falconflight
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History has shown that people want to be lead (ruled) as implementing self determination as an individual as opposed to a group is not for the faint hearted.  Even the old testament revealed that the Israelites demanded that God bring them a King.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:26 | 4925007 stormsailor
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so slavery existed for thousands of years and still exist.  it is connotated in the bible.  by abolishing slavery in the us do you think that accomplished anything?  turning loose into the world a group of people that were totally unprepared for the responsibilities for themselves into a population that had just been decimated and impoverished by the very government that set them free?  

 

the southern states were petrified of uprisings, particularly since haiti. and their paranoia wasn't helped by various uprisings and continual words and support from powerful northern sources that for the most part and most ironically held influence and power from funds collected from the slave trade or triangle. also ironically the funds and influence for the anti-slavery faction in the north were the very soul of benevolence?  hundreds of thousands of immigrants from all over the world bought their way to the northern states and were not slaves but were "free" to starve to death in alleys and tenements along with their children, so freedom to death impoverishment and class is okay, but the horrible practice of slavery is a nefarious evil?

 

slavery was on its last shred in the southern states and would have ended in a far more orderly and acceptable way for everyone.  uncle toms cabin was one of the main causes for the civil war and it was then as hollywood is now a horrible propaganda tool used by the northern abolitionist.  just like the happy hippies of the 1960's they tore it down but didn't replace it with anything, so were the northern abolitionist end slavery and everything is done, bullshit.  bullshit for the slaves, bullshit for the areas where 1/3 of the population were slaves.  i am so tired of hearing about slavery, anyone spouting it now 150 years later has an agenda and should alert any intelligent person within their sphere of their racism,and buzzword ignorance.

 

here is the "juice".  people who spout racism are to stupid and vapid to realize that 1865 turned all people into wage slaves.  hooray for the red-white and blue.

 

slaves for the most part were part of the family, food, housing,  well being and care thought about and provided for by a master that was a godly and good man.  evil existed in the master-slave world as it does everywhere, it was cruel, and inhuman when it occurred but it was not normal.

 

the men that signed the declaration of independence may have been slave owners, but i bet their slaves were not neglected nor abused.  contrast that to signers of the declaration that used immigrant labor in their business and factories,  open the gates,  hire 1 out of 10 of them for a few pennies for an 18 hour shift, then turn them out into the street sick? are their families dying of hunger?  do they have doctors if they are sick?  who cares,  if they don't show up for work tomorrow 10 more are standing at the gate.

so get a grip,  a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and your shallow attempts to stain the declaration of independence with slavery just put on display your ignorance.

 

happy 4th of july.

 

 

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:50 | 4926021 Dr. Destructo
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Who exactly are you to determine whether or not a group of people were ready to take responsibilities for themselves? And uprisings? Yeah funny how when people are taken from their homes they get the slight urge to rebel against the forces that hold them and their children captive -ungrateful assholes the lot of them.

Slavery was NOT a dying institution -what would they replace free labor with: workers earning a wage? Hardly. Even after slaves were freed they needed to move their slaves out of state; which required money to do so.

You bet the slaves owned by the "founding fathers" weren't abused, and type assumptions and distorted history and then you say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing"? You might think so, but don't project your fatuousness on us that know better.

Happy 4th to you too.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:27 | 4936981 Ckierst1
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"Who exactly are you ... blah, blah, blah ..."  How about someone who actually examines the historical record instead of urping up standard court historian Lincoln idolatry drivel?  Let's see, thousands of displaced slaves followed the Union conquerors (they sure weren't liberators because they really enslaved everyone to the elites!) all the way back to surround "Father Abraham" in Washington, D.C. as squalid camp followers incapable of fending for themselves, and there they sit to this day in that crime infested city largely as either members of the "free shit" coalition or as a bottomless pool of potential unionized, generally low level, federal employees.  They make exceptional TSA gropers.

Let's say this is insufficient.  Let's take another example that wasn't directly related to the US slavery experience.  The Brits ended slavery in the their loyal colonies in the 1830s without killing everybody in the process.  One of the main arguments was that it was morally repugnant for civilized people to keep slaves.  OK, I'll buy that, despite the fact that it was readily evident that slave based Caribbean "triangle trade" agriculture was in decline and many plantations had failed earlier (We'll control the colonies politically to attempt to maintain our empire for bases but let the darkies fend for themselves in the bush - 40 acres and a mule, hmmm?).  They hadn't really given up on empire, it was just that the Caribbean was on the wane in economic importance and other areas (such as Africa and India) looked more promising.  Well, how's that working out?  In the Bahamas the Brits controlled the politics until independence in the 1970.  The liberated slaves or their progeny stayed in the bush for 140 years before they got a turn at the plate!  So everyting's betta now, mon!  Nooooooo!  They live right next to the world's (former?) economic powerhouse and the best they can do is pretty much a hospitality economy, their schooling sucks, when they are desperately I'll they run to the states, if they can afford it.  Their parliamentary system politics are pretty much run by two "free shit" coalition political parties so everything gravitates to the seat of federal gummint and all the rest get short democracy (mob rule) shrift crumbs and the depth of their intellectual debate regards which band was better at Junkanoo, all the while, Joe Six Coconuts is getting screwed royally by their foreign and domestic politico/banksta elites and they fawn over Brit royals flinging them a few more crumbs in remembrance of the good old times.

So, that's among the better stories amongst the former English colonies.  I suppose I could go into the French colonial history, but I shrink from the gory task and encourage others to look at it beyond Michener's Caribbean.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:39 | 4924744 Squid Viscous
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too late bitchez...USA is FUBAR

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:47 | 4924769 OceanX
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NO,  the USA is  NOT FUBAR!

We have a great foundation, just need a roll back and some tweaks...

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:54 | 4924780 G.O.O.D
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Those "tweaks" will sure look like a blood flood in the streets.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:59 | 4924793 Omegaman2211
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Delusional.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:15 | 4924841 OceanX
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You tell me, when/where there was a successful, bloody revolution?  Not CUBA, not IRAN...

 

Where?

When? 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:28 | 4924868 goldhedge
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"best of a bad bunch" does not make it good.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:30 | 4925015 G.O.O.D
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You are over looking the fact that man rules man to his injury.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:28 | 4926045 Kprime
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really?  uuuuh, like, like, dude, the bloody american revolution?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 18:04 | 4925572 Squid Viscous
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like a chevy malibu?

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:27 | 4926043 Kprime
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maybe have the country recalled so the locks can be changed

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 12:43 | 4924757 world_debt_slave
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the struggle for independence happened in the 1860's, centralized power won and states lost. Generations have had the opportunity to fight the centralized power but the bankers and corrupt politicians have prevailed in ushering in a tyranny.

Happy 4th fellow slaves!

 

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:58 | 4924932 OceanX
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You should research the European banker's roll in bringing about the Civil War.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:00 | 4924796 I Write Code
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The only thing that gives me a bigger headache than seeing Ron Paul's name, is when it turns out he's right.  Gimme a handfull of bottle rockets, another beer, and a big fat steak.  Happy 4th!

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:04 | 4924813 GeorgeHayduke
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But whatever you do, be sure to keep the economy healthy by buying a bunch of useless corporate shit because they have no role in all of this tyranny. It's purely gubbmint's fault. After all, a group of people calling itself government and trying to run a country is always bad, while a group of people calling themselves a corporation and out to make a profit at all cost always makes the right choice.

Inability to see the broad picture is the main reason I discount all solutions to our problems from the righter side of the right. That plus religious foolishness, looking backwards, inside the box thinking, emotion-based decision making, anti-science attitudes, and a long history of always being on the wrong side of all issues that have made the world a better place, among others. Not that the left of left has a much better track record.

Face it, Americans have put themselves into a situation they deserve because of their own greed, laziness and ignorance. There's no fixing this crap heap without a major change on everyone's part. That will not happen until the discomfort level is higher than it is now. Until then, it'll be the usual bitching and moaning as the owners walk away with the spoils, then, finally, the peons can kill each other over the scraps. It's worked like a charm for centuries.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:14 | 4924834 stormsailor
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in 1865 they were surrendered, but they sent them home, some of us out here still remember their absolute sacrifice and courage fighting against the federal government.  i hope and pray that those of us who remember when the time comes take up their cause and untarnish it from the corrupted taint of slavery used by the conquerers.

 

the ignorant among us still believe that the cause and the fight was about slavery,  how is that theory working out now?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:47 | 4924900 windcatcher
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Independence Day 2014:

 

Be sure to fly the United States of America flag upside down, in flag etiquette, an upside down flag is considered a “distress” signal.

 

The American People are under attack and in “distress” today on many fronts (our democracy has been overthrown and our Free Enterprise System of capitalism economy has been destroyed) by the same criminals that successfully carried out the “inside job” attacks on 9/11/01. The American People have been under attack for 13 years!!!

 

Illegal immigration is just another fascist bankster/ big oil/ military complex/drugs criminal cartel orchestrated attack to destroy American Sovereignty with secret and illegal trade agreements and UN Agenda 21st Century.

 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:33 | 4925021 JR
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Just as the brave Texans who were fighting the forces of Antonio de Padua María Severino López de Santa Anna at the Alamo did not have time to celebrate the honor of being Americans, we do not have the time or the convenience to celebrate today’s America’s independence when the Santa Annas of 2014 are smashing the gates to our country.

For those who would say that the American sheeple will let the invasion of illegals into America succeed, they should witness the response of the citizens of Marietta, California, as they instantly materialized to stop buses of illegal immigrants, mostly from Guatemala, from being processed in their town.

As criticisms of their actions rose from the Left in defense of its newest engineered invasion, true patriots saw the invasion as the last straw in the banker attacks on the sovereignty of the United States. For it is the banker cartel that has most to gain by dissolving the boundaries of states on the North American continent, breaking all middle class opposition to their leftist agenda and socialist one-world empire.

Hundreds of Marietta citizens carrying American flags confronted busloads of illegal immigrants being brought in from Texas to be processed at a border control facility in Marietta. The buses were turned back and the illegal immigrants had to be taken elsewhere. As the chance for more buses to arrive today was suspected, the crowd grew and became vigorously opposed to allowing these illegal immigrants even to be processed for return to their countries, shouting “Send them back.”

It is obvious that many American citizens no longer trust the federal government in Washington, D.C., to send these illegal aliens home. Elected officials in Marietta emphasized that more than opposition to these young illegals, the primary worry is the “thousands of others illegals that would then follow these anchor entries to overwhelm the area’s community and facilities.”

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 13:47 | 4924901 JR
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The true significance of the drone memo is its chief architect: David Jeremiah Barron, recently confirmed on the first U.S. Court of Appeals.

The memo reveals a fact, kept from the Senate until Barron’s confirmation, that the judicial logic that Barron used for the American government being able to kill its own citizens without trial is a key prior ruling from the Supreme Court of Israel.

Yet there are those in high places who would seek to discount the Jewish connection to this ruling (the White House submerged it for months until a Freedom of Information court order).

With America’s economic rule in the hands of Jewish families and a dual-citizenship holder such as Stanley Fischer (former Israeli central bank head and now Number 2 at the U.S. central bank), with much of America’s surveillance and security state patterned after and shared with Israel, and with the American Congress now rubber-stamping pro-Israel foreign policy, only a fool would ignore the Jewish connection over our future.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:05 | 4924951 therevolutionwas
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Perhaps the 4th should be a day of mourning. Remembering out lost liberties, getting drunk, and ending up the day by shooting at anything to do with government.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:09 | 4924959 RockyR
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Just be wary of the neighbor flying the flag.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 14:59 | 4925079 Dr. Destructo
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One expectation, under nimrod, indistinguishable

with poverty and pharyngitis for all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wazxoNWYP08&list=RDwazxoNWYP08#t=3

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 16:11 | 4925282 Seize Mars
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The Secret of Liberty is Not Revolution

Revolutions centralize power. In order to fight centralized power militarily, you must centralize power, and this only leads to a shift of loyalty to a new group of centralists...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/07/robert-wenzel/revolution-is-not-the-p...

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 18:09 | 4925586 Ariadne
Sat, 07/05/2014 - 07:58 | 4926242 Direct Democracy
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The way to oppose government tyranny is to replace representative democracy with a direct democracy.  All new laws, new taxes, budget deficits, and foreign entanglements must be subject to a referendum/vote by the people with a double majority.  Give the decision making and power back to the people.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 14:38 | 4926979 Homer E. Rectus
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Sorry I would have posted sooner but I was watching our little , pitiful freedom celebrations here in the land of oz. plus I like having the last word. I don't think the American people will ever throw off the yoke again. They are not the same kind of people they were. They are divided politically, racially, and economically by design. Maybe one day a new nation based on freedom will arise, but I doubt it.

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