Ukrainian Journalist: "Let's Borrow From The US Constitution; They're Not Using It Anymore"

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

In the fall of 1239 AD, Batu Khan and his Golden Horde were making great progress in their rapid advance into Europe.

The Mongol Empire was in the midst of global conquest, and Batu’s army had been devastating cities across the Russian plain.

He stopped briefly after taking Chernihiv (in northern Ukraine) and sent his cousin Mongke with a vanguard force to probe Kiev, the capital of Kievan Rus.

At the time, Kievan Rus was one of the greatest powers in Europe, forming a loose federation of Slavic principalities that stretched from the Black Sea to the White Sea.

Kiev had been founded nearly eight centuries before, and by 1239 it was a grand capital with some 50,000 inhabitants. Mongke was quite taken with it. And, not wanting to destroy it, he sent an emissary to discuss terms for their surrender.

Apparently Kiev’s Prince Mikhail had just watched the movie 300… because he put the Mongol emissary to death.

Now, if I could paraphrase the Princess Bride, history gives us a couple of very clear rules– (1) Never get involved in a land war in Asia; and (2) Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

But only slightly less well-known is this: (3) Never slight a guy named Batu Khan, especially when his army is called the ‘Golden Horde’.

Batu responded to Mikhail’s poor manners by laying waste to the city. Martin Dimnik’s work “The Dynasty of Chernigov” describes the carnage in gruesome detail, saying that people “drowned in a pool of blood.”

To their credit, though, the Kievans fought bravely. They lacked the Mongolian weaponry and tactics, but they fought with sticks and knives… hand to hand, house to house, man to man.

Resistance is in their DNA. So it’s no surprise that, several centuries later, people were out in the streets fighting against their own government. Sticks and knives, once again, againt tanks and automatic weapons.

This time they won. Sort of.

Every 10-15 years this place has a major revolution. And each time it’s precipitated by one basic principle: money.

All people really want is to be in a place where they can improve their lives… where their children can have a brighter future than they did.

The system in Ukraine did not provide those conditions. It was designed for a tiny political and banking elite to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else.

This revolution was borne from economic frustration, plain and simple.

Yet each time this happened in the past, all they really did was change the players… not the game. They just ended up with a different set of criminals in charge.

This time around there seems to be serious effort to at least change the rules.

UkraineNewspaper1 Ukrainian journalist: Lets borrow from the US Constitution, theyre not using it anymore

Many are talking about major revisions to the Constitution (leading one local journalist to ask– “Why don’t we use the American Constitution? It was written by really smart guys, it has worked for over 200 years, and they’re not using it anymore…”)

He’s right. Much of the West, in fact, has descended into the same extractive system as Ukraine.

There’s a tiny elite showering itself with free money and political favors at the expense of everyone else.

Dow 17,000 means that a handful of people at the top are making boatloads of money thanks to quantitative easing, some upper-middle class are doing fairly well, and the average guy pays higher prices for food, fuel, education, medical care, etc.

It’s not just the US. France, for example, is simply not a place where you can work hard and expect to improve your life anymore. In Greece and Spain, half of the nations’ young men are broke and unemployed.

And along they way, they have all set aside civil liberties and turned into vast police states.

Ukraine may be in the midst of turmoil right now, but they at least hit the big giant reset button and are looking to build something new.

The West, meanwhile, continues down its path of more debt, more money printing, more regulations, and less freedom. How long can this really go on without consequence?

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Fri, 07/04/2014 - 20:48 | 4925838 TeamDepends
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Please do, it is our gift to the world.  Yes, some Americans have grown soft, fat, and stupid.  But not all of us. 

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 20:57 | 4925851 Latina Lover
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It won't matter to the Ukraine if they adopt the US constitution model since their elites will make certain that they continue to screw the population.  Besides, the country will crumble within the next two years.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:13 | 4925870 Publicus
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This is why the world is switching to cryptocurrency, they can't print it, we can.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 23:10 | 4925990 Bingo Hammer
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I miss Fonestar....he was pure entertainment....but until he is reborn here at ZH perhaps you can sit in his place?


Please come back Fonestar we miss you and hearing about your Japo hero, Satoshi-kutsu (or some other dude you worshipped)!!! 

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:02 | 4926028 Aussiekiwi
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yes, I'm sorry for every jibe I made about fonestars tiny bits....I mean Bitcoins.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 01:18 | 4926089 Manthong
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If you use it, just be sure to take out the 17th Amendment.. that’s the one that took the States out of United States and handed it over to the oligarchs.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 07:05 | 4926207 Optimusprime
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14th and 15th as well.  Coercively imposed on the conquered South as a pre-condition to participation in "representative" government after War to Suppress Southern Independence.


Sat, 07/05/2014 - 11:29 | 4926472 Winston Churchill
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!6th also.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 11:40 | 4926486 rubiconsolutions
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And article 1, section 8 as well. The most immoral combination, a recipe for total loss of freedom is the 16th amendment + article 1, section 8. 

So let's summarize....the 14th amendment, 15th amendment, 16th amendment, 17th amendment and article 1, section 8. A ton of parliamentary language about what the government can, shall and must do. 95% of the US constitution is devoted to that. My suggestion, don't use anything except the first ten amendments. And if push comes to shove you can get by quite well with the first eight. That's all you need. 

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 18:43 | 4927475 Monty Burns
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"designed for a tiny political and banking elite to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone else"

Check out the President, Prime Minister and main regional Governors in Ukraine and it becomes obvious who these people are. Hint: Some are dual citizens.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 03:43 | 4926156 Bingo Hammer
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Ya gotta say he really did like those little "bits" of his a whole lot

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:07 | 4926031 CCanuck
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Fonestar is currently busy riding a GOAT...

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 03:40 | 4926155 Bingo Hammer
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Nooo, not again???

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:13 | 4925871 COSMOS
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Its a useless piece of paper as long as they have a private federal reserve bank system run by networked individuals.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:57 | 4925980 Reaper
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Congress gave away its "to coin Money, and regulate the value thereof," granted in the Constitution. Power always corrupts. The power to coin money and its value must be taken back. The gifts of money whether by printing or government expenditures can be ended. The same stupidity in the USA exists in the Ukraine. The common delusion of mankind is that there will be an honest banker, a good king, a good president or honest legislators.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:29 | 4926048 Da Yooper
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Congress bent over for the fed


the fed did not bother to use any lube


stupid should be painfull


& the fed knows this


our congress is full of balless wonders

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 03:01 | 4926145 Nexus789
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An illusion as many Americans think they have a working democracy and their vote actually means something. What they have is a kleptocracy, plutocracy, corptocracy, kakistocracy, etc.  I like Kakistocracy - government by the worst of men (and women).

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:45 | 4925968 Harbanger
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Nothing can model the making of our Constitution, it was earned not handed to us.  The US Constitution will only be restored with the blood of our patriots and the death of our tyrants.  That's the price to pay bitchez.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:02 | 4925924 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Pretty sure that line was from Larry the cable guy

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:26 | 4925947 junction
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Trouble is, the politicians and their rich friends are the ones who control the United States like an army of occupation.  These guys are anything but stupid.  As for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights is dead thanks to judges like Chief Justice Roberts, judges with Gestapo mentalities.  The Carlyle Group, a giant Wall Street hedge fund, owns Booz Allen Hamilton, the company with the NSA contracts that Snowden worked for.  In other words, the USA is run like a fascist enterprise, where if, like Conrad Black, you run afoul of corporate insiders, you wind wind up in prison on trumped up charges and the looters can go on their merry way.  When Bill Clinton, whom I despise, said that he "hates than man Obama more than any man in the world," I found common ground with him. The same Obama who has made a mockery of the Constitution by claiming he as President is above the law, that he has the right to kill anyone anywhere.  No surprise there, he is a creation of the CIA and NSA, a Frankenstein monster.   

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 07:16 | 4926217 Postal
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The modern GOP is so liberal, it makes Bill Clilnton look conservative.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:35 | 4925961 rubiconsolutions
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Memo to the Ukranian people regarding the constitution from someone who helped write it:

“A mere demarcation on parchment of the constitutional limits (of government) is not a sufficient guard against those encroachments which lead to a tyrannical concentration of all the powers of government in the same hands.” - James Madison, Federalist Paper #48, 1788.

In other words, don't just depend on a piece of paper to protect your freedoms. It takes real work to stay free.



Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:45 | 4925972 Freddie
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Amerika is a joke. Idiots drooling in front of TV and Hollywood's shit. I bet 70% of the posters here still watch TV like dumb sheep. The Military are cowards and The Pentagon has sold out the American people.  They are scum.  People are fools if they let their kids join the military.  Go die for the banksters idiots.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 06:55 | 4926204 Frankie Carbone
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"Idiots drooling in front of [sic] TV and Hollywood's shit. I bet 70% of the posters here still watch TV like dumb sheep."


Sheppards eons ago quickly learned that sheep never "baaa" at the slaughterhouse if they are fed plenty of nutritionless clover beforehand to be keep them both stupid and distracted. 

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 07:17 | 4926220 Postal
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But what happens when the clover-cards don't work?

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 02:51 | 4926139 Nexus789
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Ideal document for a bunch of facists that want to set up a totalitarian state.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 07:25 | 4926222 Postal
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Yes, most Americans have grown soft, fat, and stupid.


"I am not soft, fat,... Ooohhh! iGadget!"

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 20:51 | 4925842 NoDecaf
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I think they can look forward to more creative destruction before they have any real chance of building something new.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:34 | 4926051 Da Yooper
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Amerika is a joke. Idiots drooling in front of TV and Hollywood's shit. I bet 70% of the posters here still watch TV like dumb sheep. The Military are cowards and The Pentagon has sold out the American people.  They are scum.  People are fools if they let their kids join the military.  Go die for the banksters idiots.




Spot on ^^^^^^^^^^^


cue Dancing with the stars & other bread & circus'es


let the games continue




the sheeple fiddle while Amerika



Sat, 07/05/2014 - 00:41 | 4926060 FredFlintstone
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Obama golfs while America burns.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 20:56 | 4925849 kurt
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Cobbled together Shite

WTF, really. Really?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 20:58 | 4925852 Cognitive Dissonance
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"We the People" may not actually be using 'our' Constitution at the moment, but we still love the symbolism.

<We love to love ourselves.>

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 23:14 | 4925994 Harbanger
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I'm not sure you understand the level of disenchantment between true believers and those who love to love themselves.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 08:22 | 4926262 Cognitive Dissonance
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True believers of what? Honest question. I'm not sure I understand what "belief" you are talling about.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:00 | 4925856 phoolish
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Is thia the version the Founding Fathers wrote or the one the NSA won't let us see because it endangers our national security?


Sat, 07/05/2014 - 10:15 | 4926371 centerline
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Rhetorical question?  lol.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:02 | 4925859 NYPoke
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Ukrainian Journalist: "Let's Borrow From The US Constitution; They're Not Using It Anymore"


Damn, that's brutal.  100% true but brutal.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:26 | 4925881 RaceToTheBottom
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A classic line

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:34 | 4925959 jez
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If you delete that redundant "From".

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 10:20 | 4926381 crazzziecanuck
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Lee Camp in one of his introductions to Redacted Tonight hit the gun nut argument right on it's head when he said that all the rights you'd want to defend with a gun have been systematically taken away.

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 08:32 | 4926273 shovelhead
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It's really a shame other people have noticed.

Now I understand the embarrassment that old couple who lived in the outskirts of town felt when they found out their 5 grandkids were running a stolen car chopshop out of the old barn on their property.

"If I paid more attention to what those kids were up to, I'd have put a stop to it a long time ago."

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 09:40 | 4926311 Dugald
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Perhaps the, Brutal Truth, is all you have left?

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:07 | 4925863 I Write Code
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The Federalist Papers are the finest political documents in human history.

The Constitition - maybe not so much.  Certainly too much power in the Supreme Court.  Term limits for SCOTUS and all offices.  Maybe need to specify remedies for certain transgressions - and impeachment should be much closer to removal automatically.  Might even want to forbid the formation of anything like the Fed.

Go ahead and use it Ukraine, but please be ready to lend it back to us when we're ready.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:48 | 4925904 potato
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The Anti-Federalist writings are the finest political documents in human history.

Fixed that for you.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:41 | 4925877 Circle of DNA
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Nice article, except this time around it is not the people of Ukraine/Rus who fought for the "freedom and democracy". It was $5billion taken from the US taxpayers that Victoria Nuland, together with some other Zio-Nazi reptiles, generously spent in Kiev for the latest fake revolution.  This country is gone! It belongs to IMF, to Jo Biden's son and some other shady CIA operatives.

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 21:53 | 4925911 COSMOS
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SO true CoD they are a walking corpse

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:14 | 4925920 socalbeach
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Somewhat OT.  Rand Corporation memo detailing Kiev military strategy.  They deny it of course. As someone stated, "Porky's" job is to translate instructions from English to Ukranian.

(h/t Saker comment section.)

" ... International media staff working in the region shall be subject to a special procedure ..."

"... The uses of non-conventional arms shall not be ruled out in certain cases ..."

"... Infantry shall move in next to relocate male adults into internment camps. Anyone who attempts to resist shall be executed on the spot ..."

" ... the area of the anti-terrorist (sic) campaign shall be made off limits to foreign media ..."

Fri, 07/04/2014 - 22:38 | 4925948 Urban Roman
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That rand document smells like fake BS to me. It just wraps up the action against eastern Ukraine a little too conveniently.

Apparently the residents of Kiev are unaware of the assortment of nazis, goons and mercenaries commiting war crimes in their name.

Let's see: in Syria rebels = good, but in Ukraine, rebels = bad. But if the Syrian rebels cross the border, then they're bad. Unless they are 'moderate' terrorists.Then they might be good, and we need to help them out.

You need a libretto to keep all this straight. Or maybe just read the NYT like Simon does..

Sat, 07/05/2014 - 04:23 | 4926166 August
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>>>That rand document smells like fake BS to me.

Agree.  I'm basically pro-Russia and pro-Putin, but the Russians are not virgins when it comes to disinformation campaigns, false-flags and all the other goodies of Modern Statesmanship.

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