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California Highway Patrolman Caught On Tape Pummeling Black Woman
"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of police brutality?"
In what has quickly become viral as yet another example of extreme (and unchecked) police behavior against the people, California Highway Patrol says that it is investigating footage posted on YouTube that shows a policeman repeatedly punching the face and head of a prostrate woman. As the disturbing clip shows, "the policeman just pounded her," and described by a witness, "If you look at the video, there are 15 hits. To the head, and not just simple jabs. These are blows to the head. Blows. Really serious blows. And this is ridiculous to me... I find it hard to believe there [was] no other remedy in this situation."
Happy Birthday America?
As The BBC reports, the California Highway Patrol (CHP) says that it is looking into the details of the incident, which has been condemned by civil rights leaders.
As a matter of policy, every time there is a use of force by our officers, there is a review conducted to determine whether the use of force was appropriate," a CHP statement said.
"That will be done in this case. However, since there is an ongoing investigation, it would be premature to comment on this specific video segment without reviewing the entire incident."
When the video starts, the officer is seen trying to detain the barefooted woman, who walks a few steps away from him.
But the officer is seen forcing her to the ground, briefly struggling with her before repeatedly pummelling her. A few moments later, a plainclothes officer enters the picture and helps his colleague put the woman in handcuffs.
A CHP spokesperson was quoted by CBS Los Angeles on Friday as saying that the agency was trying to bring Tuesday's incident "to a just conclusion".
Starting at around 15 seconds, the CHP officer just loses it...
But, as CBS reports, the community wants answers...
The video caught the attention of local civil rights leaders, who expressed shock and outrage at their own news conference.
"Speaking for the women of this community, we are angry, we are upset," said Lita Herron of the Youth Advocacy Coalition.
Community activist Earl Ofari Hutchinson, speaking at the local leaders' news conference, agreed.
"Over the years, CHP has had a very good track record in terms of community relations," Hutchinson said. "That's why this was so shocking."
But Hutchinson said that "excessive force, abuse of authority, is not going to be tolerated," calling for a federal investigation and for the officer to be immediately suspended pending the results of the federal probe, reports CBS Los Angeles.
Hutchinson said the group has not received any information from the CHP about the context of the video, although he could not think of a reason that could justify the officer's actions.
"We don't know at this point [what occurred before the recording]. The only thing we have the video," he said, insisting that no matter what transpired "the officer crossed the line."
"To subdue, that's one thing. But to beat, that's another thing," Hutchinson said.
CHF Chief Chris O'Quinn added...
"I can say that the tape only shows a small part of what transpired. There are events that led up to this. Until that's collected and put into -- perspective, we aren't going to be able to make a determination."
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Perhaps the SWATification of America's police force is going to their heads, and the fact that America is rapidly becoming a consequence-free nation, at least judging by America's so-called leaders.
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lol
If you listen to the audio you can clearly hear the cop say
"say what again muthafucker i double dare you"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SPpEFlpkMY
Rodney deserved it , driving high on crack at excessive speeds ... damn near killed dozens in the high speed chase prior to the start of this video.
Go back further: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AAnXo0F5c
"If you want a vision of the past, watch a bunch of fascist pigs beat the crap out of Rodney King."
Rodney was such an upstanding citizen. The fact that he was high on PCP and completely out of control had nothing to do with the situation.
I know, and I have a feeling that is exactly what our future will be. They are getting ready for when the economy implodes and the checks stop coming. They are gong to be ruthless to anybody and anything that talk negative about our status to third world.
Anyone who needs " help" and calls a cop, is an idiot. I worry more about interacting with the average LEO than a street thug.
Fucking roided up, militarized ,above the law, pigs. They truly are earning the name. And where are all the "good ones" condemning this piece of shit?
Yep, calling a cop rarely solves a problem and almost always creates another one.
Been there, done that. I don't call cops for shit anymore. That's like inviting a local member of the Crips to come in and settle a dispute for you. I handle my own affairs.
I am Chumbawamba.
White, Black, Red, Yellow, Brown, it doesn't matter anymore. This Fucking Crap has to STOP NOW!!! When the Revolution starts, these ass-hole cop's will be the first ones taken-out!!! Just aim for the head!!!
"There go the property taxes to pay for this one....and she just won the lottery"
Soon the cops will be intentionally staging these beatings with accomplices and sharing the $100 million tax free payout 50/50...
From La Times....the woman was not injured....bawwwwww
California Highway Patrol officials on Friday said they were investigating an alleged altercation between an officer and a woman on the side of the 10 Freeway this week.
The incident was filmed Tuesday night by a passing driver and shows a woman walking toward a male officer on the side of the freeway near the La Brea Avenue exit.
It's unclear if the two were speaking to each other, but the officer throws the woman to the ground and hits her several times near the face before another man rushes in, according to footage in a KTLA-TV Channel 5 report.
The second man was a CHP officer in plain clothes, officials said.
At a Friday news conference, CHP officials said the woman had been walking in traffic and the officer was trying to restrain her. The woman was not injured and is undergoing psychiatric evaluation.
CHP officials would not identify the officer or woman but said they would conduct a full investigation.
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@Derekgrrrrrr Why dont you get your facts straight if you are going to comment? That was Riverside Sheriff's Department. When you get the basic facts wrong,you have zero credibility. The Internet makes it easy to fact check before you post comments and show your ignorance.
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"We will leave no stone unturned," said CHP Assistant Chief Chris O'Quinn, who said the video only captured a small part of the incident.
No stones involved at all.
The woman probably called the fattie on his tiny dick.
Nothing else gets 'em going like that.
The three inch hard-on must remain unchallenged.
Mass and badge reign supreme.
That is always promoted in the rags, detained, broken, killed, and assaulted citizen awarded millions by the state. It's an appeal to greed, and it allows the system to continue. She is now just another high paid free loader, just like the rest of them.
And since you SUPPORT THE BEATINGS then I am more than happy that it will be coming out of YOUR TAX DOLLARS.
After all Financial SUPPORT IS SUPPORT. Have fun paying for it. You can be assured that the beat downs will continue as this officer, along with the rest of them, are NOT HELD FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE.
YOU, on the other hand, ARE HELD FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. I am so happy that you choose to pay for it.
So you need not bitch at all about her receiving anything. Otherwise you expose yourself as a fucking HYPOCRITE.
Let's go hunting.
Good for her.
I'm waiting for the day that ordinary people intervene and brain some of these thugs.
I expect that day will come.
Cops are TAUGHT to intimidate and to lie. They are bullies.
Don't need to teach that, those are basic aggressive human characteristics found in all humans.
True enough, cosmos, but they are actually taught those things in classes.
Lying is to make people incriminate themselves and intimidation is to get people to comply, even though they don't really have to.
You mean like shooting dogs and cats? That's sociopathic behaviour common to thugs and cops, it has nothing to do with what I would call "normal" people.
Bill Buppert talks about it here:
Badged Serial Killers & the Death Cult of Politics - Bill Bupperthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUjiHuX6eU
Truth!
Our Tai Chi instructor is a cop has told us that the police can lie all they want at a "situation". And of course they can be bullies, often are.
If stopped, be polite, yet politely defend your rights particularly if you are in a hairy situation.
I will say, though, that I have never been mistreated by the cops, even when stopped for traffic violations.
When I was young, I was treated badly by cops, though nothing like what happened to this woman.
Once I got older and looked like I could afford a lawyer, the cops got a lot nicer.
They are costumed thugs. Exceptions to that rule are few and becoming fewer.
Ohhhh..fresh meat media...
If Obama had a momma.........
This story has got legs......
....garanteed it sparks riots when its decided that the officer feared for both thier safety an did not exceed policy.
Yep. Now we just need KTLA to replay the video about every fifteen minutes for the next 3 months. When the riots start, the KTLA news chopper will point out to looters where the most valuable loot is to be had, and will use their airborne vantage point to let the looters know in real time whether law-enforcement are approaching. Because Journalism.
Crisis. The administration and the left are looking for one that rubs the public their way, and the media will enthusiastically stoke up the fire, as they have done for this bunch for decades.
Ain't gonna be no riots... they have been tamed and dumbed down to the point of no return - with a monthly EBT card thrown into the cage, what is there to get all uppity about?
"what is there to get all uppity about?"
There's always the black rage excuse.......
I am speechless. How is that possible? What needs to happen to someone to become such a brute.
Sick! If he does not get a proper sentance, my faith in justice in America suffers.
Well, I live in Finland which is already a police state. Police may not be as brutal as yours, but justice and civil liberties are a bad joke.
Fire him....strip his pension away....sue his assets to oblivion.....and jail him 5-10 years with a minium of 2....and bar him for life from another job in security and / or law enforcement.
Not just him, but the idiot that vetted & hired him in the first place as well. I'll bet this isn't the first time he has been 'overly aggressive' with a member of the public and I'll bet nothing was done then either.
This officer passed all the personality profile tests given by the Department.
You guys are all fired up, but i don't think this is the best example of police brutality (of the hundreds that surely occur eveyday across the USA that go undocumentsd).
Other than punching her, he is probably doing what should be done. Take her off the freeway median strip, which probably wasn't going to happen with words alone.
Too bad there's no audio. I bet there was a "Fuck you, asshole!" when the woman decided she was cross the freeway, cop or no cop.
Who knows what really happened.
Of his punching her, this is probably not that far from what is necessary to safely apply handcuffs to a large person (male or female) who is likely to not dociley roll over and allow cuffs to be applied.
Did I think the punches were a bit much? Yes.
But I don't think a big deal should be made of this. One month suspension wi/o pay. Not much else.
Were you to spend much time in the slummy parts of centrail cities, you'd have some symptahy for cops who've been given the horroble job of keeping riffraff from tearing the down the town.
Punching someone you're trying to subdue is stupid. If you connect to a facial bone, you will cut them AND your hand. If they have HIV or some other blood disease, you've just created a danger to your health. Learn a basic f-king straight arm bar, or if they're trying to hit you learn the cross-arm bar. No threat of cutting them and you, and the moment you lock their arm in and apply the counter pressure, all of their "flailing" ends.
The reason everyone is "getting fired up" over this is because there is ZERO context to pardon a steroid-abusing facist from ground pounding a civilian when multiple means of gaining compliance exist, and are taught to LE officers. I suppose I'd accept 1-month suspension w/out pay...for each punch. And a mandatory series of drug tests for steroids and HGH.
I wound not fire the person that hired him. Everybody that hires gets some bad eggs. If the officer has done similar things before, then that speaks to the review process.
Who would vote this down?
My apologies to any decent cops on ZH, but some of the dumbest people from my high school went on to become cops, and to a man, they were all complete assholes when they were in school.
Anyone think this guy didn't pull this shit on the playground 15-20 years ago? These people never grow up. They just get a gun and a badge and use their new "authority" to give their bullying an air of legitimacy.
In fact, cops are selected based on their intelligence, or rather their lack of it:
http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/01/court-oks-barring-smart-people-from-be...
This is not a secret and has been the norm for decades. Dumb people who for the most part blindly follow orders and won't challenge the status quo are what apparently make the best cops.
I know a kid, the son of the liquor store owner down the street. He's attending police academy now. Good kid, extremely polite. Maybe he was an asshole on the playground and I just didn't know, but I'm guessing it's more likely he'll turn out to be one of those cops you actually appreciate meeting and talking to.
The point is there are cops who will watch that video and recognize the inappropriate use of force. Don't lump them in with the asshole administering the beatdown. They are just as abhorred as you, but now they have to go out and try to do their jobs with kind of shit hanging over their head. Do not turn your back on the good cops. They are with you and they are cops because they wanted to be for all the right reasons.
I am Chumbawamba.
Assuming the kid is nice, as you say, I hope he gets the hell away from law enforcement, and quickly.
It would be a shame for a good soul to be corrupted.
"Do not turn your back on the good cops. They are with you and they are cops because they wanted to be for all the right reasons."
I must disagree. The institution of "policing" is so corrupt and belligerent now that if a gun and badge thug is "good" he would resign.
I'm thinking it might not be easy to identify and hire thousands and thousands of people who will apply physical force when necessary to subdue someone but not lose control in the act.
I can imagine that the people who do the hiring don't want to hire people who can't stomach physical violence.
Cops should be GINORMOUS individuals. That should be an actual qualifier for the job. Let's say a minimum of 230 lbs weight and 6'3" height with the proviso that they have to gain an additional 30 lbs. within one year of hire, not necessarily muscle, blubber will work. At one time in this country before the wacky modern era banned all thoughts that people are differently endowed, police were hired on this basis I think judging by old stock photos and silent-era movies.
The reason is that a big person does not have to use as much force as the smaller guy. This would eliminate a lot of excessive force situations. I was speaking with a young man in his final year of college yesterday and he fits the profile perfectly. He is aboiut 6'7" tall and probably weighs in at 280 lbs. He was in business studies but dropped out because the "business statistics class (among others) was too challenging." He is now in criminal justice.
add: Of all the cops in different cities, the ones in SF are the scariest.
Of all the cops in different cities, the ones in SF are the scariest.
Yeah, you noticed. Sometimes seems the SFPD is headed toward becoming an army of four-foot-tall man-hating lesbians who have no option but to pull the trigger in any scuffle.
S.F. leading the way toward equal rights!
Big and fucking dumb. Perfect
The "real badass" cops that you have to worry about are the short ones because they got something to prove. Big guys are used to people assuming they are "tough".
The problem is that the "good" cops are not preventing the bad ones' acts or speaking up after an incident. In my book that makes them equally wrong.
Yes, Chumb. Now tell us how some Politicians are really good and want to help people.
Some jobs just beg to attract assholes.
I knew a nice guy who became a cop.
He soon quit the police, and instead went to study criminal justice.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/insecure-frustrated-bully-with-somethin...
The fact that the cop was smashing this woman's head on a busy road just shows that he is either convinced he is doing the right thing or knows that he can get away with it. Simply appalling use of power.
"Time" is not enough. This will not stop until the people take things out of the hands of the system and start putting these pigs in the ground.
Where are all the West-coast gang-bangers that like to brag about thier AK's? One of them needs to get this guy's address and take care of business.
The men who we "celebrate" on July 4th didn't let the king give "justice" to his redcoats, we should not let the current "kings" decide what happens when their men step out of line.
We are a bunch of collective pussies if we are expecting the Crypts to carry the weight of justice on their backs.
Do it yourself or shut the fuck up.
Most cops today are bad guys who decide to take the legal route...
Does anyone know if those LAPD psychos ever were held to account for shooting up those cars when they were looking for Dorner? If not don't expect anything to be done here also. They are bringing out the canard that the video didn't have the full context. Yep. The "get my news from Jon Stewart" crowd will withhold judgement until they know the events leading up to this.
In the immortal word of the NWA: Fuck the Police.
I doubt it very much. Notice it's always "they". They, they, they, I hate fuckin "they". You know why it's always "they"?
Because nobody is *ever* held accountable. Ever!
Both pickup shootings were justified said law enforcement officials that investigated law enforcement.
http://www.kfiam640.com/articles/local-news-465708/lapd-board-clears-mis...
http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/01/15/41605/la-district-attorney-torrance-...
Of course they were. Thanks for the links!
Newsflash monkey boy, Jon Stewart will lap up this doctored video as will all the idiots that get their "news" from Jon Stewart. You're climbing the wrong tree. Liberals tend to watch and get some of their news from Jon Stewart, liberals hate all cops and always find cops guilty. Their is plenty of police brutality in this country, a doctored video like this is not real good evidence, let's see the WHOLE video......bet ya your last nickel J Stewart is on you and Chewbumba's side on this doctored video.
"liberals hate all cops and always find cops guilty."
That is the most delusional shit I have ever read here. (That includes Disabledvet when his med balance is off)
Who the fuck do you think they expect to keep their liberal asses protected? Who do you think they say are SUPPOSED to carry all the guns?
Police officer filed a false statement as well as beating her.
Ok that is where he made the big error in my opinion, had he been honest and said had to punch several times to get the suspect to roll over so I could handcuff them, since they were resisting. I would of been ok dude is off the hook. But making the false statement is where he blew it.
But making the false statement is where he blew it.
No. Beating her in the face with fifteen punches is where he blew it.
You are into appearances which are deceptive. Of course deceit is the Devil's tool.
Personally I prefer TRUTH and REALITY...no matter how ugly it may be.
You prefer truth and reality? Yet you have made a full judgement based on a doctored video? lmao.
If you bothered to read the thread the full uneditted video is online.
Of course you are not into the truth. What shall I expect from a cop?
"I was OK with the cop committing assault and battery, but when he lied about it, that's where I drew the line."
You are a fucking idiot.
I am Chumbawamba.
STOP RESISTING!! *POW!* STOP RESISTING!! *KABLAM! SMACK!!*
Just another day in police state, USSA.
We once had a counter balance for these scum military cops types 'crips and bloods' remember the tunes like 'Cop Killer' and 'fuck the police'. These mother f's need a new dose of fear from the people's militia.
What if she was deaf?
They do a damn fine job screening for room temp IQ goons.
Beat your head in for your own safety. WTF they need to go all the way up the chain of command & all of them get the sack.
ZH becomes more and more disgusting.
So, it is fine for black hoodlums to rob and kill but, for God sake, a police officer must be nice and kind to these black gangsters.
This black woman was crossing a busy highway andhas endangering many people lives on the highway. Police had to take immediate action to protect drivers and passengers. Yes, a policeman was aggressive but in this situation he couldn't be nice. He did his job. This woman was not an innocent bystander.
The next time when hoodlums like this woman will rob and kill you or your children and/or your parents just demand them to be nice to these criminals!
That is the dumbest comment I have read today..
The way you say it, this cop was doing "God's Work"?
What do you suppose your brave first responders would have done had they seen whoever took the video?
My guess would be take away/smash the camera at the very least. More than likely beat the shit out of and arrest the person as well.
You got part of that right.
Yes, the police must always be honest, tolerant, kind, and courteous.
Because they are backed by STATE power.
You may have forgotten the different scope of prerogatives available to agents of organized STATE power. Versus any rable of [insert ethnicity here] thugs.
So...you see black woman getting beaten by a cop on a 'roid rage..and you assume she's a hoodlum or a "black gangster"?????????? Are you trying to make yourself the poster-child example of white racism and stereotyping?
Maybe she's just deaf, or drunk, or mentally ill, or had a bad day at work and experienced road rage and put herself in danger. Don't really care myself...too many ways to subdue someone in ways that don't involve 15 punches to the face and head. I don't need him to be "nice," just smart and effective. He could call her a b!tch for all I care, as long as he gains compliance using the least violent technique required. There are literally dozens of joint lock techniques that are taught to LE...and he chose the one with the most chance of causing permanent harm, and even potential harm to himself.
He was doing the ground and pound on that lady... MMA style... wtf.
Give the guy a break. Like Rodney King the woman was guilty of impersonating a pinata.
/sarc
She was wearing a tiny mini skirt with a tight blouse ... so it's obvious "she was asking for it."
//sarc
Excellent site, Jumbotron. Thanks for the link.
get ready, Murika!, your police state future awaits!
The head guy, be he she CEO, Chief, Captain, parent, or liar in chief sets the tone for all those under he she. Underlings take there attitudes and behavior from those in charge in power above them. Their heads should roll as well.
All he had to do was take her down and sit on her until he was able to get her cuffed up.
The only thing that would make this type of behavior acceptable, would be if he was defending his own person at a level commensurate with the amount of force used against him, and he clearly is not.
I've been on thousands of calls and dealt with a fair number of the 1% that actually must be subdued physically ....... and I have never, EVER, had to sit there and pummel somebody's head like that.
Fuckin' Gestapo cops infuriate me.
Cool.
We need more like you.
God bless you.
How can you claim anything is clear with a freaking DOCTORED video for heaven's sake!!!!
It is not a doctored video. Why do you persist in spewing misinformation?
Here it is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pRsWb6coQRM
You are one of the Gestapo Cops to which he refers.
Can't we all just get along?
On August 23, 2012, King's autopsy results were released, stating he died of accidental drowning, and alcohol, cocaine, marijuana, and PCP found in his system were contributing factors. "The effects of the drugs and alcohol, combined with the subject's heart condition, probably precipitated a cardiac arrhythmia and the subject, thus incapacitated, was unable to save himself and drowned"
A tormented soul in many ways.
STOP RESISTING!
How do you think we go a police state in the first place ?
+10000000000
Tradition! Our owners believe that they can do with us what they want and not even the SPCA can prevent it.
It's the reason for Magna Carta in 1215, the principles of which are now forgotten:
"[17] No sheriff, constable, coroner or any other of our bailiffs is to hold pleas of our crown.
[29] No freeman is to be taken or imprisoned or disseised of his free tenement or of his liberties or free customs, or outlawed or exiled or in any way ruined, nor will we go against such a man or send against him save by lawful judgement of his peers or by the law of the land. To no-one will we sell or deny of delay right or justice."
FeralSerf.....i agree with you in principle.
But remember....the Magna Carta only applied to LAND OWNING name holding gentleman and lords and ladies. The serf farming and tending to the lord of the land's farm and livestock.....not so much.
Not much has changed in 800 years.
If feral serfs words are accurate it states "freeman" which doesn't imply land owner.
Any statute in the Magna Carta which hasn't been overturned or lawfully altered is, still, the law of the land.
Serfdom was abolished in England by Elizabeth I in 1574.
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Serfdom.html
Serfdom was abolished in England by Elizabeth I in 1574.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA LOL !!!
That's a good one.....snicker....
I should have said "allegedly" abolished.
Why are your punching me?
It's for your protection!!!
"Captain, if she had just stopped bashing her face into my closed fist..."
Police assaulting a civilian = No crime
Civilian merely touching a police officer = criminal assault
True. http://fox59.com/2014/07/02/video-lafayette-officer-keeps-job-after-push...
Can someone point out the good cops in XSams link?
Because I don't want to lump them in with the POS that assaulted the guy in the wheelchair.
Amerika!
Fuck yeah!
He will probably get promoted for his bravery and selfless contribution to the community.
Hey, hey Internal Investigation under way! Nothing to see here... (Oh "internal investigation" means the cops version of events is the only version in their record, videotape evidence of misconduct is not allowed in as its "biased" guess what their conclusion will be.)
The investigation will take 4 or 5 years, cost several million in crony lawyers fees and conclude nothing was done wrong since all of his fellow cops on the scene will deny the video evidence recorded what happened the way it did.
Oh... and the cop gets full backpay plus interest if they suspend him without pay which probably won't happen...
Its clear to me that the officer feared for his safety.
"What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are, to him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy-a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States, at this very hour."
- Frederick Douglass, The Meaning of July Fourth to the Negro, July 5, 1852.
Again, this was part a speech given to a group of the elite of the nation by a freed Black man.
And nothing has changed since then....except for the makeup of the slaves. We are now made up of EVERY color and creed. We are all slaves to the .01% who run multi-national corproations who are funded by multi-national central banks.
The saddest thing of all....most of the .01% couldn't give less of a shit about the 4th of July. The majority of slaves are the ones who still sing the songs, and put their hand over their hearts at the site of the flag, who listen to patrotic stories from the Capital steps to the pulpit in churches.
Slaves telling other slaves you are FREE....in the Land of the Brave and the Home of the Free.
Now it is becoming clear to me why zombie movies are so popular now. We already live everyday in the Zombie Apocalyse. It's call the U.S.A.
- Karl Marx
Slavery cannot exist without the approval and acquiesence of government. This is where Marx and the Left go wrong. They empower the thing that empowers the slavery. That is why you get the USSR and Maoist China, not some egalitarian utopia. The whole nation becomes slaves to the state and the living standards are roughly the same.
Both of you guys are correct.
Marx was GREAT in identifying the problem
He and the ones who came after him were LOUSY in implementing the solution.
No system is perfect....once inate human corruption gets involved.....but here is a philosophy that tries to take the better parts of anarchism, libertariansim, captialism and socialism. It's called Mutualism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_%28economic_theory%29
You actually find mutualism in nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_%28biology%29
Right now what we have is parasitism. Maybe symbiosis (mutualism) should be given a try.
History clearly shows that all modern capitalist governments are the governments of the capitalist, by the capitalist, for the capitalist.
Slavery of Government rules and regulations
oppressing freedom and liberty.
Government tough love.
Obamacare.
The fact that that pig is not rotting in a maximum security prison let loose with the general population to fend for himself tells you a lot about the United States.
This happens every minute of the day in jail houses across the country. Do you think a guy would do this in broad daylight if it wasn't condoned?
To think this savage is on the public's dime sickens me. The jackboots are a nice touch.
I think a urinalysis to test for illicit, criminal, steroid use, would be fitting. A positive result should mean immediate dismissal and lose of pension.
Due to provisions of the Police Officers' Union Negotiated Contract, the officer involved is not required to make a statement for 72 hours and then will have one carefully prepared by the Police Union Lawyers. There is no chance he would agree to be tested for intoxicants.
Unfortunately, court decisions have negated any loss of pension, even if an officer is convicted of murder ("think of the poor officer's family", is the cry).
In the end the "Review Board" will decide, "she was resisting arrest", "she disobeyed an order of an LEO", "the officer feared for his life when she reached for her cell phone which he mistook for an AK-47", "all departmental procedures were followed", and "how much are we going to pay to make it all go away?".
The courts, political administrations and the justice departments are biased in favor of their fellow employees (the "security wing"), the cops. They work for the same collective, The State.
I live in a third teir city and I worked for the city for five years just like every city cop.
The city coucil makes the local law and the council has the power to change personnel policy to require urinalysis test on any employee.
Since we do not demand it by resolution through legislate It won' happen. But it COULD happen if the voters demanded it.
"test for illicit, criminal, steroid use"
Sorry, just like the military that's part of the job requirement/description. Not unlike the pilots that slaughtered the journalist & others in Iraq hopped up on amphetamines.
When I was a kid we were taught to not punch girls or women. In six decades, including two of them in uniform, I've yet to strike a female, although I've had ample opportunity. This cop needs to be fired.
Gender equality is a double-edged sword. As a kid I was taught to give up my seat for a woman on a train or bus, too, and the other day in the airport train I felt a bit guilty about keeping my seat (even though I was dog tired). But you know what, women's rights gave us President B.O. and the Democrat Senate. If they want to ruin the country with their equal votes they can damn well stand equally too.
And take their beatings like men too.
/NOT SARC
Gender equality just like political correctness has engineered a great gulf just as intended. Your assumption that every woman is some GI Jane wannabe is a pretty broad brush stroke. Like how you wove the prez & senate in there too. Who's counting those votes again?
I see where you're coming from though. I saw a man open a store door & ask the lady if she was going to scream at him. He obviously had such an experience. She thanked him profusely & he asked her to just pass it on.
It boils down to kindness.
Looks like they succeeded in snatching yours.
When I was a kid, I was taught the police were good guys who there to serve and protect you.
When I was a kid they were
That was Andy of Mayberry. He wouldn't lie to protect the new, SWAT-oriented Mayberry Sheriffs' ATTACK FORCE, so he was charged with terrorism and fired.
Now they are all Barney Fifes without a reasonable and wise Andy Griffith to keep them in line.
Outstanding comments and true. Andy Griffith of Mayberry was your neighbor, friend and fellow citizen. He was not there to harrass the shit out of you and make revenue for new office furniture or a courthouse. Andy Griffith was an actual person in the sense that he represented a large part of policing in America and an ideal.
Now, it seems to me cops have the ever dangerous "Them against us" mentality. They call us civilians as if they are an army and we are a sort of occupied territory. They cover for each other rather than consider what is right. I will guarantee that if you followed them with cameras each day they probably break every traffic law on the books along with a few other non-traffic laws. The law is for civiliians.
They work for the State and not you. They are an extension of the state and as the state gets more pervasive and controlling it will get more abusive. These guys, like all the other bureaucratic machinery are not going to give up their paychecks, pensions and perks to do anything for you. If the State tells them to run a week long speed trap to bring in extra revenue (they never say it directly) they will do it even if it pinches their conscience a tad. It becomes a game. When it is a game and you know it should not be a game it leads to cynicism. Cynisism leads to corruption. Corruption results in abuse. When the abuse is in the open and unpunished you have oppression.
Well said FG.
Today they are trained to do so. The No Hesitation part of Officer Safety. "It's them or us, and we're not required to get hurt on the job." That's why dogs get shot, grandmothers get shot, babies get flash-bombed, etc.
When I was a kid, girls acted like girls - not savages.
In my experience, black females are far more militant, obscene, aggressive and provocative than black males. By far. I cannot remember the last time I had a negative encounter with a black male.
I had a very negative encounter with a black female recently. I was standing line at a restaraunt when she walked right up to me, looked me directly in the face, smiled and cut directly in front of me in line.
I knew I was under video surveillance and I knew better than to lay hands on a double protected minority, so I simply stepped directly on her instep, stopping for a second or two with all my weight on her foot with my boot as I stepped back in front of her. She got the fucking message.
The average black female has much more of a militant chip on their shoulder than does the average black male. They are not shy about getting your face, cursing you and slapping you. However, they have no stomach for anyone who is willing to stand up to them and not put up with their shit.
Nice!
When I was a kid I was taught not to cut people off when walking at the mall or on the sidewalk etc. Now when I go to the mall which isn't often I usually end up telling at least one person " I'll step on your fucking heels"!!! as they cut me off. I find women the rudest with their get out of my way attitudes"
"I find women the rudest with their get out of my way attitudes"
Very true. I tend to watch peoples behavior and to try and learn from it.
If a man is blocking the aisle in the grocery store with his cart and sees you coming - he'll move it. He respects you as a man and understands the rules of fucking with another man over stupid shit, and that it's not worth it. Men tend to be a lot more respectful and polite toward each other in this regard.
Women, on the other hand, are a lot more brazen. They know the rules are different and they take full advantage of it. Many have no problem whatsoever blocking your way, pushing their cart into you and simply being disrepectful and arrogant.
Unlike a man, they know they aren't going to get their ass beat for being an asshole. And in any confrontation they'll throw the 'you don't hit women' card just as fast as the blacks will throw the race card.
This country has lost a shitload of civility and respectfulness as a result of making certain populations off limits to criticism and common sense.
exactly. they just part that cart in the middle of the main isle and don't give a fuck.
Was she an imminent threat to the officer in the seconds before and during the beating? No? Then go fuck yourself O'Quinn. Seriously, fuck you. I hope you get anal cancer. I would be held to that implied standard, so hold your fucking officers to it. It's called equal protection under the law. Keep on ignoring it and see where that gets you. Fucking cunt.
And I thought this was about APD...well..maybe not...no gun involved.
It couldn't be about APD. She lived.
Here have some hope and change!
What else do you expect in a Police State?
Enjor your fucking free shit though.
"Home of the Brave". LOL
Land of the Fee,and Home of the Slave.
What you gonna do about it ?
SHUT UP and pick up that can, Citizen.
"I can say that the tape only shows a small part of what transpired. There are events that led up to this."
I'm trying to think of any imaginable series of events that could justify punching a prostrate person in the back of the head repeatedly and coming up empty. Can anyone here help me with this?
they said the same thing about the officer in indiana who knocked over the guy in the wheelchair.
lol
the derp factor is high with these jack-booted thugs
Yea, and that CHP spokesman...they screen for derp
Three problems
Hiring too many that have mental deficiencies - who would be criminals if they were not police.
Training that teaches police officers not how to intelligently defuse situations, but instead to provoke people, resort to violence ASAP, because this is "Taking Control" of the situation. Simply moronic.
Giving police "performance quotas" - which means they get more pay and promotion if they can provoke people and then arrest them - basically motivating them to "create crimes" to advance their careers. Again, moronic.
TraderJoe, + 1000, FFS, Take a look at the desired type they want to hire. SEE this Recruitment Video for Springdale Arkansas P.D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM7HiyslpIA
In this case, she looks drunk and disorderly in the video and is wandering near an interstate, so the arrest would have been totally legit. Doesn't justify the punching of course.
I had an acquaintance at my old apartments who was waiting and trying to get on the with city PD. He was a muscle bound typical young guy who spent all his extra money at strip clubs and bar hopping. I do not know if he ever got on but I thought "No way" to myself. I am an ex military officer and frankly I find too many cops are borderline for their work. In the military you don't have privates going around armed on their own recognizance to enforce anything. In the military you are specifically trained also not to ever follow an improper order even if from a superior. You have a personal moral obligation and of course you are never in a position to oppress your own citizens.
My dad was a cop for a few years when I was very young. They did not have ticket quotas, directly. What they did was hand you two stacks of forms, one stack was for tickets and the other for warnings with the command, "Use them all by the end of the month." The ticket stack was twice as tall.
I assert that the cops are actually a continuum of the larger overall problem. The IRS abuse, speed traps, even NSA spying are part of the natural tendency of all governments. Essentially I say it this way, "It is easier and more profitable to harass the sheep than fight the wolves." You get the meaning, I am sure.
I believe it's now referred to as "Full Spectrum Dominance".
Wow, expect more of this in the future as civilization unravels.