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Train Derails In Montana, Dumps Boeing Fuselages Into River
Until now, whenever Warren Buffett's preferred mode of industrial transportation - that would be trains - derailed, it would usually involve spilling generous amounts of oil into the surrounding area, far more than any hypothetical pipeline disaster to date would have resulted in. Then, in an apparent first, overnight a train derailed in Montana and spilled fuselages of Boeing 737 airplanes into the Clark Fork River. One wonder if all of these airplane orders had been funded by the Ex-Im bank.
From King5.com:
The investigation continues into the derailment of a train near the town of Superior, Montana Thursday night.
Some of the cars carried aircraft components.
Nineteen cars on the westbound train derailed. Three of the cars contained aircraft parts and ended up in the Clark Fork River. Sources tell KING5 the parts were heading to Boeing in Renton.
Crews spent the night and into this morning cleaning up.
Photos from the derailment site:
In any event, since the capital order will have to go through twice, expect a bumper month when it comes to July Durable Goods, and thus Q3 GDP. In retrospect, the "derailed airplane fuselage" theory of economic growth may soon replace the "broken window" falacy as a means to "boost" the US economy.
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that's a lot of broken windows.
Crack for krugman
He sent thank you notes to Berkshire and Boeing the minute he read about it on ZH.
I wonder if you get a discount if you fly on a plane made from one of those fuselages from the derailment?
By the way was the conductor of that train Malaysian or a CIA dude.
This article gave me a krugman which lasted more than 4 hours. Off to the ER!
Trout habitat
Do you believe in omens?
Buffet dumps Boeing?
"Sovereign Citizens did it!" in 3...2...1...
Capt SCULLY did it better
Creative destruction....
MH 370?
Just build the Keystone XL Pipeline already! Oil in pipelines has been proven safer than on trains in tank cars.
Even carefully building and inspecting the pipelines (with a BIG fine for mistakes or carelessness) still winds up being considerably cheaper.
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Yet, if one of Warren's trains spills a large amount of crude on the (say) Nebraska prairie, would the environmentailists scream...?
Jam those fuselages in the XL pipeline.
DoChen: If you weld all the tank cars together end to end you get a pipeline!!
forget MH 370---that's 93 ----proves terrists did it.
That would be 'Sully'.
Just turn those fuselages into giant rowing sculls by punching through holes for oar locks under each window!
Or you could make a helluva pontoon party boat with two of em!
Oh, those aren't planes. That's the INTERNET!
It's a series of TUBES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZC67wXUTs
I know where senator Ted Stevens' lost emails are now. They're floating down some river in Montana.
Who insured this shipment? Whoever it is is about to get slaughtered.
I'm not sure if it would be insured at all. Does anybody have more info?
Well...lest we forget "the train derailed too." That would the the National Transportation Safety Board. I would be surprised if this wasn't insured as a: Boeing has the money b: the railroad business has a terrible safety record and c: that insurance is really expensive.
Ironically the safest mode of transportation by far is flying.
Not to worry. I'm sure that it is insured by one of the large insurance companies like AIG and if they can't afford it I'm sure that they'll get bailed out again.
I think there is a whole raft of issues here ....
The taxpayer is the insurer of last resort.
Anyone for fly fishing?
You will know you are on one of those flights when the flight attendant tells you to buckle up and ignore the smell of mildew.
No, Krugman wants to crack YOUR windows so that his Money Power employer's corporate fronts can profit off of your expense.
"Alright, who's the U-Boat Commander?" Ehrr, I mean Engineer....
My friend was a locomotive engineer for CSX until he quit 2 years ago. Stand up guy. All their skilled enginneers were treated like shit by the company, and CSX ran the crews like a cross between a Chinese fire drill and the three stooges. He never had a set schedule, was forced to be on call 7 days a week, and had no life and no time off for the entire time he worked for those assholes. CSX has a slow and steady continuous loss of skilled / competent men.
He predicted that we were going to see a gradual increase in train accidents on the news ( and a whole boatlaod of accidents that never make the news ). Since he quit, he has been dead nuts correct, and everytime we get together we get a good laugh at the latest slew of major derailments.
Maverick
Yup, I used to work for the railway until I quit. It was a "man's world" and not in the way I like, if you know what I mean LOL
Heard an interview with a BSF conductor the other day who was fired for refusing to skip pre-operation tests of the airbrakes. Sounded like their culture was completely corrupt.
You gotta wonder how many pencil-whipped tests it takes to pay for an accident like this. F'n idiots.
CP blew up Lake Megasnake up in Quebec last year. They've got some pencil necked MBA running the shop.
He ran CN into the ground and is now destroying CP and killing people.
Several years ago I applied for a train conductor position with BNSF. I drove 600 miles at my own expense to take the pre-certification tests, drug tests, and interview. Then I had to endure a ruthless anal probe of a background check, employment and criminal records for the last 10 years, fingerprinting, an isokinetic strength test on my major muscle groups, and a hearing test. This all occurred in April. And then there was nothing. Three and a half months of absolute silence from the company. All of a sudden one day, in the middle of July, I get an email from them telling me that I had the job, and would I please be ready to pick up and move to Nowhere, Montana by next week?
I never returned the message.
I can certainly sympathize with the old engineers who say the railroad business is going to shit. I knew almost right away that I didn't want to be part of an outfit like that. Companies these days seem to be doing everything in their power to liquidate the experienced workforce and to enact policies that result in a goat rope of confused inaction and a hostile work environment. Nobody sees the big picture; nobody has a comprehensive philosophy of life which informs them about how the world, human beings, and the economy are supposed to operate. There is neither prudence nor wisdom in the high places of the world today.
I attribute this in a large measure to the "Too many generals, not enough privates" problem. As I've asked before, where do you think all those people of middling intellect who went off and got useless college educations (from which they could not benefit anyway) end up? They end up in "management," performing a host of clerical and logistical functions about which they know nothing. These are the "little Eichmanns," the useful idiots who help the financial class to strip-mine the value out of profitable concerns and leave the empty husks in their wake. Worthless theories of managerial efficiency (such as Six-Sigma and its imitators) comprise part of the socialist ideology of the day.
What makes me very sad and anxious about all this is that the attitude has worked its way into almost every industry at every level. It will inevitably cause the fabric of daily life to fray as the wheels of industry start to grind to a halt, and it has all been the result of stupidity, laziness, incompetence, and greed. The refusal to put real men of worth in positions of power has consequences, as Rudyard Kipling explained in A Servant when he Reigneth.
Best post I've read here in at least a week, moron.
p.s. I have this odd feeling that I ruined a serious compliment somehow ... but I can't quite put my finger on it ....
That Kipling poem really hits the nail on the head.
A favorite Kipling quote — 'A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition'
Anybody else reminded of the Wesley Snipes sequel of "The Fugitive"?
I was thinking of the Denzel Washington one actually...the one where the two trains are hurtling out of control at each other from the very beginning.
That "runaway train" was so lame. The great movie "Runaway Train" with Jon Voigt is the one to watch.
The people of Lac Megantic wish Denzel Washington was there.
That would be U.S. Marshalls.
An airline crash before takeoff. Like Obama winning a Nobel Prize before he had a chance to do anything. Such as crashing even further the USA's reputation.
How is that different from "preemptive war"?
those aren't fuselages. they are mutated salmon going upriver to spawn. they had been swimming way offshore in the pacific and happened through a rather large area of radioactive water contaminated by the Fukushima leak. obviously, the water in the river is not deep enough for their mutated size, and they have been beached. sad really. anyone for sushi?
How much does a plane ticket on a boeing on Buffet Airlines from the railroad tracks to the river cost?
I wonder if the train conductor failed to turn off his electronic device.
Actually, this looks like a train that transports giant dildos to me.
It's too bad it was not just one plane or they could have painted it white and told everyone it was Malaysia flight 370
Well at least they didnt lose the fuselages. Wouldn't be surprised if they said we can't find the fuselages.
Total write off.
Could make a hell of a house out of those fuselage shells. Wonder if they could be purchased.
Underground Bunker's???
Actually, this looks like a train that transports giant dildos to me.
Yep that is what the bankers screw the AmeriKan public with.
The order was placed by Bunyan, P. and Blue Ox, B.
With all those crashed fuselages the NTSB investigators will have a field day there.
Conclusion: 3 planes crashed simultaneously on a train. Wings floated away. Internals of the planes vaporized.
But did they find the Arabian Passport, yet?
You sneer at the "broken window" notion, but war has always been a major "broken window" stimulus.
Exactly. Why were America's factories so valuable post-WWII? Because of the tech? Because of the trained labour?
Or because every OTHER factory in the known world had been blown to bits?
Well we are certainly doing our best to break Ukraine into a bunch of pieces. I think we are doing a better job of it than the Germans in WW2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DiSQ36zfWk
link above shows some German demo work...Set to 'Do You Think Im Saxon' by Hans Zimmer
Russian factories were running at a great clip. Why did they not achieve the same economic outcome?
Because the US didn't have to keep its factories busy restoring most developed parts of its infrastructure destroyed during the war and instead used them to capture lion's share of the global markets. If US had its civic infrastructure decimated to a similar extent as Europe, it wouldn't achieve even distantly the position it did by the end of the 20th century.
That and the fact that America made a killing - literally - on selling matériel to both sides before they joined in, and then to Britain once they had. The US wound up with most of the world's monetary gold after WWII (71% in 1948); Bretton Woods cemented the USD as reserve currency in 1944 and allowed the US to run persistent trade deficits, until its trade partners wised up and started demanding phyzz in exchange for paper, hence Nixon's default in 1971.
People often mention how well 'socialist' Sweden economy has done; they forget it was neutral and supplying both sides during both world wars... and only adopted 'socialist' policies in the 1960s AFTER it had climbed up the wealth league tables.
Yes, developed countries can do pretty well at (re)creating wealth when they're not getting blasted to shit by modern munitions. You only have to look at the progress of Europe after each World War.
Duh, so what happened to Germany and Japan? Sheesh...
If the "broken window" fallacy was correct, Iraq and Afghanastan would be the two most prosperous countries in the world, by now.
Oh no, it's the Islamofascism™ that's holding THEM back.
If only they were populated by gentle geniuses like Paul Krugman, why, they'd resemble NYC.
Blackstone will be turning those into high rent suites on site...riverside with a view of the mountains.
Donations to the homeless and a tax writeoff for Boeing!!!
build things, dump them, build them again - good for GDP, good for growth
Seems a little strange.
Surely you would ship the wings to the fuselage for assy.
What is Boeing producing in Washington state ?
Boeing is crap. They lose a $350 million 777 airliner that was filled with spyware and droneware for Deep State to steal it and murder all on board.
Boeing is the best. Flying an Airbus is like eating with a plastic spoon.
3 out of 5 dentists pilots prefer Boeing over Airbus. :-)
Most people here might disagree, but the last airline flight I took was on a Boeing 757 back in early 2009 (D.C. to SLC). That aircraft was the most comfortable, stable, and overall quietest ride I have been on. Those Airbusses actually DO suck, when compared to Boeing. The 318 and the 320 are loud, cramped, and shaky, and the atmosphere on board is sort of 'rarified'.
Hell, the 707 I flew from Sydney to L.A. back in '69 was better! (That was back when pretty stewardesses brought you real meals and pillows and blankets and stuff)
Try the A380.
The 757 was or is one of the best Boeing planes. The new Boeing planes are filled with spyware and droneware to hijack like Malaysian 777 going to Diego Garcia plus 9/11 767s.
Fly Boeing and end up in Diego Garcia then get murdered.
". . . like eating with a plastic spoon."
The last time I flew on a Boeing, I had to eat with a plastic spoon.
The fuselage of the 737 single aisle narrow body plane has been produced in Wichita Kansas for decades by Boeing. Several years ago Boeing sold that division to Spirit Aerosystems which has a long term contract to produce the 737 fuselage and other components for Boeing. Spirit also does work for Airbus. The 737 wings are built by Boeing in Renton Washington where the entire 737 is assembled.
Washington State for the most part is where the wide body double aisle planes are produced and assembled. The 787 is a notable exception to this 'rule' since it is made of many components produced all over the world and shipped to Washington State.
Clearly choosing to keep your subscription to Aviation Week & Space Technology is paying off. I promise to unhide all of the recent editions as soon as you finish building my new kitchen pantry. ;-)
If you throw in my embargoed Weekly Reader it's a deal.
Jesus, get a room, you two.
We're going to need to get a room since the new pantry is subtracting from the existing bedroom.
Nice to see others get that besides us.
Miffed;-)
I don't know if you are the real Mrs. Cog but that is some funny...stuff right there!
I didn't start out on ZH as Mrs. Cog. After stalking him for a bit, then becoming self proclaimed president of the Cognitive Dissonance Fan Club, he finally relented. Now all his magazines are belong to me. :-)
Finally you admit to stalking me. :)
Sort of a member of the mile high club, all the while on a fishing trip to Montana
That certainly fits with the current way of things. Remover a little while back, the old runways filled with brand new, unsold cars?
It's funny that out of all the colors those planes could have been they wound up as the one color that camouflage's into the mountain. This way they can just leave them there and hope no one notices.
That color is the protective film that covers the plane's skins. It's meant to keep the skin or paint finish unblemished while traveling through the assembly line.
Coming soon to an airport near you with a fresh coat of paint. Enjoy your flight.
If you reach for the sky magazine and pull out a salmon i'd gtfo of that plane immediately.
+1 Fonz. Made me spit coffee all over my computer.
OT
Can you eat this gold?
Man held with dozen gold biscuits at IGIAhttp://news.oneindia.in/india/man-held-with-dozen-gold-biscuits-at-igia-...
*Homer drool*
Mmmmmmmmm, golddd biscuittttsssss...
Gold bitcuitz!
Driving that train, high on cocaine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0HM0RtRv-E
Warren will be paying for this from his core business, insurance.
Warren will find a way to NOT payout.
Probably blame the Boeing engineers saying they constructed the fuselages incorrectly.
We'll be paying for it.
they found Flight 370?
The railroad track was probably slippery, so blame the weather!
Maybe there will be a little "what if this was oil cars?" discussion around there now.
Hopefully these don't make it through the material review board after collecting their insurance payout.
Boeing will send a few field specialist with cans of spray paint. Then bless them as good as new.
"since the capital order will have to go through twice".
Don't count on it. These fuselages will be flying our asses around in a few months.
Curious
These seem rather long to be sitting on even a stretch rail truck. Is this the first time they tried this? What about it rail buffs? Were they going around a curve, did the projection of the fuselage catch a tree? Golly, I'd hate to think somebody did something REALLY stupid?
"Feb. 22: The fuselage for the first airplane to be built at the new rate arrives via rail car from Spirit AeroSystems in Wichita. Boeing brought in eight new rail cars to support the production rate increase." From Boeing site. Now I'm wondering what the minimum curvature these rail cars are capable of going around and whether this was a new route.
All part of NeoEconomists' Creative Destruction
"Welcome to flight nunber XXXX. Sit back and relax in our beautiful new Boeing 737. We apologize if your seat is a little damp but you may be pleased to know that tonights evening meal will be fresh trout pan fried in diesel fuel".
Tony Montana - "first you get the money , then you get the power" , then ... kersplatt ... https://decryptedmatrix.com/live/pdf-mastervault/
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Uh oh, Krugman's looking at those derailed plane pics again.
Dammit Amerika is run on procedures which no one know what anymore. Yeah Corp Policies and Safety Crap .
housing for illegals.
they're going to need a lot bigger river to get rid of all the overcapacity in the auto industry
When ordered to do some channel stuffing, somehow I'm not sure if navigable waterway was the type of channel envisioned.
Ahhhh, just the "escape velocity" photo I was looking for.
You add a couple of hooks and you have a good bait....for the Big One
....they're composite, right?
A few gallons of Elmers glue and some Krylon and we're good to go.
The 787 is the only composite airplane. These were 737 fuselages. They're primarily made of aluminum.
It creates more jobs and GDP.
Obama and Krugman push for derailments and destruction. Looks like good location to dump goods.
You did't create that derailment.
"Scratch and Dent Sale"
This shelf only.
50% Off!
*These items are sold in "as is " condition. Restrictions apply.
Bid already submitted by Malasia Air. ha ha.
russia must pay israel compensation for this outrage.
israel cannot take much more of this suffering without cash money compensation.
larry silversteins people are on the case.
Krugman is pleased.
This is nothing to do with Airbus and revenge from Toulouse for the BNP fine.
All that was needed was of these fuselages to bust into a house/cabin. What a classic photo.
Maybe a cover for a sex education book.
Brooklyn Bridge Underpass Facade Collapses http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Brooklyn-Bridge-Underpass-Facade-Collapses-265635861.html
114-year-old bridge collapses on Route 519 in Kingwood Township http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-democrat/index.ssf/2014/06/114-year-old_bridge_collapses.html
Dozen-plus cars derail as train hauls sand in northwestern Ohio; no injuries reported http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/0d044c62ab044c6a9582191b2463da55/OH--Derailed-Train-Ohio
Train derailment blocks crossing in western Lucas Co. http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2014/07/03/Train-derailment-blocks-crossing-in-western-Lucas-Co.html
Cleanup Work Continues In Wake Of McKeesport Train Derailment http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/06/09/cleanup-work-continues-in-wake-of-mckeesport-train-derailment/
Five train cars derail in downtown Phoenix http://www.azfamily.com/traffic/7th-Street-closed-for-train-derailment-264225371.html
20 cars from CN freight train derail in northern Alberta http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/20-cars-from-cn-freight-train-derail-in-northern-alberta-1.2672935 And so on and so forth ...
Confirmation. See my comment above.
Maverick
Any huge LBO's pending in the transportation sector?
Trains and boats and planes ...
Dionne Warwick Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzZnQ7hX8cM
Bullish for Boeing, the DOW, Buffet and rafting agencies!
Who is John Galt?
channel stuffing boeing style
Am guessing orders for 737s have dropped and Boeing decided it needed some insurance money.
"Am guessing orders for 737s have dropped and Boeing decided it needed some insurance money."
The insane thing about your comment is that in this day and age it's plausible.
Especially since the Air Malaysia flight.
I am not sure about MH370, but Sandy Hoax and Boston Boom are remarkable in their outright maniacal fraud and conniving lies.
cousin ward, I think you are onto something there...
I am currently about 60 miles from the derailment site and right on the same Clark Fork river. Wish I had been there to see it. Those Boeing fuselages come through all the time, from somewhere around Kansas City on the way to Reston, WA I believe.
Well at least I know not to trust transporting my guillotines by train.
in Krugman's world this is bullish for economic growth, the rest of us Krugman is Freddy Kruger.
It's stupid to not build things in one factory.
Not if that "one place" is dominated by union thugs.
I have a terrible... just terrible memory. For some reason I simply can't figure, these images make my brain generate "the fugitive"... or some other movie.
if i was still a prepper i'd be like - WOW i wonder if i could get one of them busted fuselages for my backyard!
This should hep the economy! Look for durable goods to soar before the end of the year. Broken window fallacy comes to mind.
Does Boeing have a scratch and dent store...? Sorry, didn't see the earlier reference
Shovel Ready JOBS
Ahhh cutbacks on the rail crew. Intresting to take the serial #'s of those fuselages and find out where they end up.
Clearly pilot error!!!
How much does a ticket on a boeing flying Buffett Airlines from the railroad tracks to the river cost these days?
oops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess I shouldn't have hit the gas to make happy hour................