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"The Real Economy Is Somewhere Between The Toilet & A Rat Hole"

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Submitted by James H Kunstler of,

With lakes, swimming holes, rivers, and pools beckoning, I went to a sporting goods chain store at the mall — where else? — seeking a new bathing suit (pardon the quaint locution). The store was curiously named Dick’s. All they had were clown trunks. By this I mean a garment designed to hang somewhere around mid-calf, instantly transforming a normally-proportioned adult male into a stock slapstick character: the oafish man-child.

This being a commodious warehouse-style store, there was rack upon rack of different brands of bathing suits, all cut in the same clown style. I chanced by one of the sparsely-deployed employees and inquired if they had any swimming togs in a shorter cut.

“What you see is alls we got,” he said.

Even the Speedo brand had gone clown — except for the bikini brief, which I wore back during 30 years of lap-swimming, but which I deemed not quite okay for an elderly gentleman on the casual summer swim scene. So I left Dick’s without a new suit, but not before having a completely unsatisfying conversation with one of the managers.

“In the old days,” I explained, “bathing suits were designed to minimize the amount of cloth one dragged around in the water. These clown trunks you sell not only make a person look ridiculous, but they must be an awful drag in the water.”

“That’s what they send us,” he said. “It’s alls we got.”

The Fourth of July rolled in just in time to celebrate the disintegration of Iraq following our eight-year, three trillion dollar campaign to turn it into a suburb of Las Vegas. Me and my girl went over to the local fireworks show, held on the ballfield of a fraternal order lodge on the edge of town. The fire department had hung up a gigantic American Flag — like, fifty feet long! — off the erect ladder of their biggest truck, in case anybody forgot what country they were in. Personally, I was wondering what planet I was on. It was a big crowd, and every male in it was dressed in a clown rig.

The complete outfit, which has (oddly) not changed in quite a few years (suggesting the tragic trajectory we’re on), includes the ambiguous long-short pants, giant droopy T- shirt (four-year-olds have proportionately short legs and long torsos), “Sluggo” style stubble hair, sideways hat (or worn “cholo” style to the front ), and boat-like shoes, garments preferably all black, decorated with death-metal band logos. You can see, perhaps, how it works against everything that might suggest the phrase: “competent adult here.” Add a riot of aggressive-looking tattoos in ninja blade and screaming skull motifs and you get an additional message: “sociopathic menace, at your service.” Finally, there is the question: just how much self-medication is this individual on at the moment? I give you: America’s young manhood.

Does it seem crotchety to dwell on appearances? Sorry. The public is definitely sending itself a message disporting itself as it does in the raiment of clowning. Here in one of the “fly-over” zones of America — 200 miles north of New York City — the financial economy is mythical realm like Shangri-La and the real economy is somewhere between the toilet and a rat hole. Under the tyranny of chain stores, there really is no true local commercial economy. The few jobs here are menial and nearly superfluous to the automatic workings of the giant companies.

I don’t have the statistics but I suspect a lot of the males around here are on federal disability payments, and probably in the psychological categories including “depression,” “learning disabilities,” “ADHD, and so on.” In such a situation, wouldn’t a person benefit from presenting himself as child-like, with a dash of menace? And wouldn’t it be advantageous to look that way all of the time, in case one was unexpectedly visited by a government employee?

Down in Brooklyn, a world away, the young men go about in their hipster uniforms: Pee Wee Herman cut casuals. They’re still role-playing “the smart kid in the class” even though they’ve been out of class for a decade. Their computer dreams of IPO glory are formulated with the tunnel-vision of science fair projects. Left out are the realities of the greater unraveling.

Women are not at the center of this story. Theirs is another story. Let some woman tell it before I get to it.

Never has a society entered an epochal transition with such unpreparedness.

Never has a society appeared so childishly decadent.


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Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:37 | 4932091 Chupacabra-322
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The real economy has been toast since 2008. DIfference is no one has had the balls to "Officially" announce it .

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:46 | 4932121 hedgeless_horseman
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I don’t have the statistics but I suspect a
lot of the males around here are on federal disability payments, and
probably in the psychological categories including “depression,”
“learning disabilities,” “ADHD, and so on.” In such a situation,
wouldn’t a person benefit from presenting himself as child-like, with a
dash of menace? And wouldn’t it be advantageous to look that way all of
the time, in case one was unexpectedly visited by a government employee?

Please, describe your children and grandchildren, Mr. Kunstler.  Why were you not spending the holiday with them?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:48 | 4932156 exi1ed0ne
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TL;DR "I fell off the fashion train a long time ago and use that as a basis for economic pontification rather then the 2X4 of shitty data whacking me in the face."

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:53 | 4932180 Latina Lover
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We are soooo screwed...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:59 | 4932208 max2205
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My mom frowns when I don't dress up when we take her out for dinner....


What's the point. ...what difference does it make....who you gonna impress


A bygone era

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:08 | 4932267 Manthong
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I thought it was at least between a dung wagon and a puddle of vomit.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:13 | 4932304 Vampyroteuthis ...
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What kind of hood does this author live in or visit? Nothing new here.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:23 | 4932363 Skateboarder
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Look at this shit:

The complete outfit, which has (oddly) not changed in quite a few years (suggesting the tragic trajectory we’re on), includes the ambiguous long-short pants, giant droopy T- shirt (four-year-olds have proportionately short legs and long torsos), “Sluggo” style stubble hair, sideways hat (or worn “cholo” style to the front ), and boat-like shoes, garments preferably all black, decorated with death-metal band logos.

Okay, Mr. K. Here's where you need to get your shit straight before opening your mouth and generalizing two completely distinct groups of people into the same amalgamous rot you seem to perceive.

Style 1) Gangsta: big saggy pants, XXXL shirt, sideways hat, lacking in grammatical skills, proclivity towards picking fights. Choice of music likely limited to Rap/Hip Hop/Electronic. Likely to not pursue 'intellectual endeavors.'

Style 2) Metalhead: Black shirts (though not always black pants) with band logos. Hats are less common/uncommon. Snugness of clothing dependent on individual. Smugness of musical knowledge dependent on individual. Proclivity towards 'intellectual subjects and endeavors.'

I can go on in excruciating detail and enumerate the further breakdowns of these two very distinct groups, but I think this is enough.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:36 | 4932450 Panafrican Funk...
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I just found it telling that he focused on the superficial rather than stating something more substantial, like the fact that James Kunstler probably couldn't change the oil in his car, fix a leaky pipe, or any number of other basic functions that used to be common knowledge among men a mere 40-50 years ago, let alone, actually survive an extended period without electricity or running water, as was common knowledge 80+ years ago.  The reason we should be concerned about the inevitable next leg down (that he alluded to, though I'm not sure he fully grasps what that leg is going to be) is that, unlike the Great Depression of the 30's, our collective common knowledge re: basic survival is incredibly shitty.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:26 | 4932626 THX 1178
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Bingo. Kunstler pats himself on the back thinking he's the one with a mind of his own. All of the problems we are facing now are caused by suit-and-tie wearing bankers, politicians, academics and businessmen. And their associated social norm templates. All of the horrifying death that will result from the worldwide collaspe will be the result of professionalism and straight edge militarism. "maturity" and i place that in quotes for a reason. If we as a species have any hope, it will be from the cartoonish hippies who know permaculture and non-hierarchical social organization. Hopefully some of these hippies and locally grown vegan alterna-hipsters and punk rock anarchists with their bulk beans and rice can show us "mature professionals" how the fuck its acutually done when the collapse comes. Cuz when the bankers are dragged into the streets and killed, and the politicans are assassinated, and the financial advisors are strangled with tehir own ties... what the fuck are you gonna eat? the "mature" ones are the problem.


+1 for you funk

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:48 | 4932758 Supernova Born
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I had a dream a shoplifter was captured after tripping due to his baggy, too low pants.

True story.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 16:45 | 4933020 7.62x54r
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Apparently these kids are unaware that pants down to your thighs was a fad started in the California Penal system. Prison bitches would use this to advertize that they were for sale.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:58 | 4933503 Shocker
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The economy has far from recovered

Job Situation:


Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:44 | 4934195 Stackers
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I wouldn't say the economy is in the rat hole, but definitely working twice as hard for razor thin profit margins these days and the phone just flat out does not ring unless I'm leaving messages for people.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 01:07 | 4934468 CheapBastard
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Scabies Outbreak At US Border


Summa of Rekoveee.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 04:32 | 4934612 Richard Chesler
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Small price to pay so corrupt Obongo and the wookie can enjoy another night of lobster and caviar.


Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:05 | 4933919 Taint Boil
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Saggin spelled backwards .... 



Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:13 | 4933954 brockhardman
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On a similar note, the secret behind what is really going on under that shirt is revealed here...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 01:23 | 4934491 Bárðarbunga
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Hey, he's not heavy, he's my dealer.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:16 | 4933551 Thinking it Thru
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There's no collaspe coming any time soon. Thousands of these towns prove every day. The FED is paying to keep it all together, and whenever they run out of $ they print more. No end in sight, this is the plan.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:15 | 4933713 yatikto
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Stopped by Charleston, West Virginia on a road trip this weekend.   Was 4th of July,  town was mostly deserted.  New hotel that was built ' "4 points" for my architect's taste was cheap and work was shotty.  Weather was awesome, food was great, music was good. In the beginning they ran thru the sponsors of event.  One of them was JP Morgan.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:13 | 4934121 Vendetta
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shotty = shoddy

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:30 | 4934415 Freddie
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Sadly the shotty (sic) hotel was not high enough to throw those JPM bankers off of.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:17 | 4933553 Thinking it Thru
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There's no collapse coming any time soon. Thousands of these towns prove every day. The FED is paying to keep it all together, and whenever they run out of $ they print more. No end in sight, this is the plan.


Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:23 | 4933743 THX 1178
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Meh. The FED can't print indefinitely. if they do, UST holders get wise to the fact that itll never end and trade out into something better. That is the End. When will that happen? soon. sooner than later. The end is NIGH.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:19 | 4934133 Handful of Dust
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They may print but it's going into the pockets of bankers and Wall Streeters instead of the 'consumer middle class( CMC).' Have you gone a clothing store any time recently? Piles of stuff discounted 60-90% just sitting there collecting dust and accumulating dust mites and cluttering the aisles.

Very little 'velocity'...very little "trickling down" to the CMC.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 02:44 | 4934547 SeattleBruce
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And they make up 70% of the US economy - so the US in particular is in trouble...but also the other countries geared up to sell is cheap crap.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:28 | 4936765 Thinking it Thru
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That's why the FED the ECB, China and even russia won't let this happen. A kind of quasi one world currency seems to be likly. All work together now, all need each other now.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:20 | 4934292 Nexus789
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Okay while other countries had to hold the Dollar to trade - the US exports its debt. These countries are starting to drop the Dollar for trading and are using their own currencies or bartering. The Fed is boxed in as foriegners will be less and less willing to hold US Dollars so printing will have deminishing returns.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 01:01 | 4934458 Thinking it Thru
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"The Fed is boxed in as foriegners will be less and less willing to hold US Dollars so printing will have deminishing returns."

The question is will the EU, possibly China and (FED) North/South America agree to keep printing together. Simply because all the interests align rather well. They all want quiet, non-protesting, malliable populations. So why not just have them join together with only internal conversations keeping it going. Althogh there is much strife in the world it seems that in reality the leaders of the big nations all want stabiity over anything else; plus all the leaders are living such lavish lifestyles one might immagine total earth dominaane is something they would be happy to share amoung a fairly small group. I think they can work together.

The moral (hazard lol) really turns out to only be the want to keep people simple and quiet and without too much ability to reproduce. Sounds like a sick plan, I wonder who I could talk with about this who would know? Who run the FED, the ECB and the world bank? I'm sure there are quite a few smart fellows calling the shots. I wonder after a certain point what is worth more to a billionare, money or power.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:18 | 4933559 Cathartes Aura
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seriously great post THX 1178.

Kunstler's longing for a by-gone time socially engineered to keep everyone scrambling for a place in the "social order" while simultaneously rewarding the pocket protector's who followed all the rules to get their gold watch'd retirements - meanwhile!  the nationstate they exist within is overtaken by thieves and sociopaths

all nicely suited up, with purchased gold watches, of course.

smug took its eyes off the road, and is about to crash the overpass. . . look out below.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:31 | 4933597 Horseless Headsman
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True enough. Probably won't go this far for a few more years, though. Two anyway.  Plenty of time to look into gardening, right? Actually, it's quite a bit more difficult than the non-gardeners believe. Buy an extra shovel.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:51 | 4933641 Dragon HAwk
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And Learn About Heritage Seeds, real real fast..  or Starve next Season


Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:50 | 4933859 imbtween
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Heritage? You mean heirloom? Or is there another type?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:08 | 4933932 NuckingFuts
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You are correct with Heirloom as the perfered nomenclature.  But I give him/her +1 for being on right track.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:57 | 4933655 TheMeatTrapper
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"Plenty of time to look into gardening, right? Actually, it's quite a bit more difficult than the non-gardeners believe."

Very, very true. There's more to growing food than having a bunch of seeds stored, just like there's more to trapping meat than having a bunch of traps stored. 

I've got 15 years trapping experience - I'm playing catch up on the gardening; but I'm learning fast.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:38 | 4933803 SmackDaddy
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no kidding.  and at least for someone of my present skill level, it is far more expensive than just buying at the store.  but the experience is most certainly priceless....

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:15 | 4933969 NuckingFuts
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Thankfully the wife has a MS in Permaculture and is the most eduacted in ag.  I also have a BS in horticulture.  It is a fucking hard row to hoe man.  We dropped out 7 years ago to do it full time.  I have over 2K in produce and eggs going to the "city" on my reefer truck tommorow, it is brutal to try to make a living at it.... But I could feed 50 people all year if I had too.  (and yes to all you haters, I could do it with out gas or fertilizers as long as I had the labor)

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:25 | 4934006 Son of Loki
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Wait one minute Buckeroo! What are you talking about? That GS executive, you know the one who’s been getting $1 million bonuses since TARP, said the economy is ‘recovering.’


Even the bankers [with their several hundred thousand dollar TARP bonuses] are saying the economy is recovering.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:38 | 4934173 willwork4food
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Great post Nucking. Who would downvote you on this? Probalby someone who owns stock in Food Lion...anyway with only one acre, half that out back we planted rasberrie, blueberrie, peaches, plums, tomatoes, hot pepers, lettuce,, strike that, and cucumbers. Who needs grass?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:14 | 4934391 Wahooo
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Here's an idea. Specialize in Wealthy & Healthy, delivered fresh by you each week to those who can afford it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 05:38 | 4934655 Oracle of Kypseli
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Fruit of the month already exists.

Maybe try veggie of the month?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:53 | 4933863 Miggy
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Other than the swear words I agree with you THX1178. What do you think the hippies parents thought in the 60's? The author is looking in the wrong places for the answers like you said.


John 3:16

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:20 | 4934140 THX 1178
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Well, you can't come to ZH and not expect a little salty language every now and then.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 05:51 | 4934662 Oracle of Kypseli
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And yet... Point is that these kids and adults have made themselves unemployable. Add the druggies, add the psychologically sick and the entitlement group and you have half of the productive working class supporting an overbearing bloated government as well as these souls whether they got there by choice, by conditioning, by misguidance, parental failure or whathave you.

This cannot last.

BTW: Me thinks that you do not dress for others. You dress for yourself. There is a guy at the office that on casual Fridays he comes in with shirt and bow tie as a counterculture. He was warned though, as this is a revolutionary act like telling the truth.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:35 | 4934031 FutureShock
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Fucking accurate THX

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:08 | 4934261 ThroxxOfVron
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"Hopefully some of these hippies and locally grown vegan alterna-hipsters and punk rock anarchists with their bulk beans and rice can show us "mature professionals" how the fuck its acutually done when the collapse comes. "


Are allegiences aren't to any of the exisiting variants of statist/centrist clown posse.  

We eat the weeds and bank fires at night for heat.

We roll our own and We hoard the seeds.

We hide in plain sight and bide our time.


WE are gonna own this whole continent again by default if TPTB don't wise the fuck up.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:46 | 4934346 gatorboat
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"The reason we should be concerned about the inevitable next leg down (that he alluded to, though I'm not sure he fully grasps what that leg is going to be) is that, unlike the Great Depression of the 30's, our collective common knowledge re: basic survival is incredibly shitty."

Next "great depression" will bring anarchy and civil war.  "Underprivileged" class against middle class (what's left of it).

Only way to prevent it is keep those EBT cards and welfare checks going.   Which means keep printing dollars, keep weakening the dollar, keep reducing people's purchasing power.

Govt doesn't fear the middle class.  Middle class isn't violent.   Govt fears the "underprivileged" class who ARE violent.  It's why govt buys their cooperation with EBT cards and welfare checks.

America has two choices.  Quiet death or violent death.  Quiet death is the dollar steadily losing value till it's worthless.  We quietly sink to 3rd world level.   Violent death is the dollar suddenly crashing to zero. 

It could go either way.  50/50 odds.

Revolution isn't in either of those choices.  Middle class isn't violent enough for revolution, and "underprivileged" class wouldn't attack the source of their EBT cards and welfare checks, which will continue right to the end because Fed can keep printing dollars right to the end.

Middle class are the losers.  Purchasing power wiped out and no EBT cards / govt checks to make up for it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:42 | 4934431 Larry Dallas
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This article is dead on .

But as usual, is perpetually knocked down for being the person who can't change oil or plant corn. Who does that stuff anymore or needs to? I mean really? Low skilled labor isn't something to be proud of.

'Cause only blue collar folks do that. Not folks paid to use their brain...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:38 | 4932461 tvdog
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Which group do the wearers of girly jeans and tight T-shirts belong to?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:54 | 4932534 Skateboarder
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They range from no group association (labels) to hipster to metrosexual (though I've never heard anyone describe themselves as such) to LGBTQ. Perhaps many more.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:37 | 4933613 Cathartes Aura
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New York Dolls, aka glam rock.

mebbe some Marilyn Manson & Guns 'n' Roses - those tiny T's and tight jeans are really popular with the heroin-chic boy bands.


Mon, 07/07/2014 - 16:21 | 4932643 Lore
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They're all girly now: "Hipster," "Gangsta," "Wal-Martian," "Queer," all seem malnourished and hormone imbalanced. Shaving seems to be a hit and miss affair. They carry smartphones like cowbells and reek of rancid body odor or "AXE."  And marijuana: lots of marijuana. How they pay for it I have no idea, as they're drowning in at least as much credit card debt as their parents. They are ALL drowning in debt, even the most narcissistic, which is ironic, as one would think that self-absorption would extend to personal finance, but apparently not. 

It's interesting that the Culture Creators push out nihilism and defeatism and perpetual childhood and downward mobility to basement dwellers just as their comfort is about to get taken away. These most vulnerable among us will become most desperate, and they don't share the morality  of their grandparents or even their parents (which isn't saying much). In a psychopathic system nearing breakdown, everybody is socialized to behave like a psychopath. Expect a wave of socialism among young voters as they long for a return to what they will look back on as a golden age of easy debt and actions without consequences.

Anecdotally, if you want good quality normal clothes, you have to shop online. Even with shipping, the price is cheaper than the bizarre throwaway shit in the malls.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 16:51 | 4933043 MeMongo
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One word for you reagrding getting "good quality normal clothes"

Thrift stores!

Mongo has 2 favorites and he sometimes finds Red Label Levis:{)

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 17:27 | 4933113 Lore
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Fair point, although I was referring to more than jeans and t-shirts. As you suggest, liquidators, consignors, charity and thrift stores seem busy with customers looking for quality items second-hand. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:11 | 4933539 dwayne elizando
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I happened to stop in at Barney's in Chicago the other day. Did you know Levi's makes jeans that cost $150.00? Being in Barney's really hammered home the wealth gap. I always knew I wasn't rich but now I know I am in flat out poverty. That or maybe there is a designer bubble. Either way I'd rather buy used jeans and 1/10th toz gold eagle than have $150.00 Levi's or $900.00 shoes.

Fuck any baby boomer ex-hippie acid burn out who thinks I should buy Polo to impress him. I'll buy thrift clothes and gold till I'm dead.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:58 | 4933659 MeMongo
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Good Man dwayne!

This message is Mongo approved!

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:01 | 4933663 Tall Tom
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Thrift Stores are a good place to buy Karat Gold Jewelry.


I am happy that most people still do not value Gold as they donate Grandma's Jewelry Box...



Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:47 | 4934347 dwayne elizando
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Ohhh, I never thought of that! Looks like I'll be "thrifting" this weekend.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 16:06 | 4932872 drstrangelove73
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Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:15 | 4933336 THX 1178
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guys from the 1970s

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:46 | 4933807 SmackDaddy
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theyre called faggots

didnt see ya there strangelove.  anyways here is my favorite fashion accessory:

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:41 | 4932476 Government need...
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Style 1)  Testicles, huge, although this usually includes the brain, which has migrated south.

Style 2) Testicles, practically non-existant, and VERY under-used.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:49 | 4932511 cro_maat
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Excellent breakdown. My 20 year old son likes to hang out with both crowds as well as the Dominican / Puerto Rican crowds here in the 5 boroughs of NYC. He likes to mix and match and keep them all guessing.

BTW: I spent some time practicing power slides and push up slides on my longboard this weekend. I have lots of scrapes and scabs on my elbows to show for it :)

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:00 | 4933661 TheMeatTrapper
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Cool story bro. Those powerslide skills will serve you well in the future. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:07 | 4933929 SmackDaddy
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haha girls love dudes who can skate (even if it's just my fruit boots haha).  i still play ice hockey but i dont have a tenth of the courage it takes to drop in from the ledge at my local skate park...  but im gettin ready to give the boards a try again.....

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:13 | 4932620 Pee Wee
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They are one and the same - bagholders.

(Some say targets)

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:51 | 4933463 casfoto
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All this gangsta shit is being made in China....can you imagine what those guys think?  They probably think that Jamie Dimon, Obama, and Goldman Sachs employees walk around like this on Wall Street. This image sucks.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:52 | 4934444 in4mayshun
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You're right Skateboarder...there is a difference in stereotypes between thugs and metal heads. So maybe we should group them into a more broadly defined 'bout douchebags?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:09 | 4932274 GetZeeGold
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I'll take Obamacare and 29.5 hr/wk jobs for a thousand Alex.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:22 | 4932665 RafterManFMJ
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I wear a lavender pantsuit every time it go out to dinner; if I get any static I tell the rube, "What difference does if make?"

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:46 | 4933444 Crawdaddy
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If you are getting static in that outfit, you need to show more cankle.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:26 | 4933700 TheGardener
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Dress up , make your stand . the style is the division.

Make an impression for your self worth, but here is your filthy hillbilly talking...

Disclaimer: That talk works on the young stranded chick for me and as a young men I would have had suspicions about though pimp like commands. Never tried when young , but had asshole friends where the though talk would come naturally and worked as designed.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:57 | 4934083 Straw Dog
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Ask Hilary, she'll tell you what difference it makes

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4932209 Keyser
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The real economy has been toast since 2008. DIfference is no one has had the balls to "Officially" announce it .

They are too busy trying to destroy what is left of the USD... That is the plan after all, straight from the horse's mouth... 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:13 | 4933326 Captain Obvious.
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USD? Are you sure? All these years I thaught it was LSD.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:08 | 4932230 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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"Never has a society appeared so childishly decadent."

Just to be clear, this isn't spontaneous. Such decadence is generations in the making.

For example, let's take the so-called "greatest generation". After +10 years in a severe depression they should have had the insight to understand who caused it and why, but instead they went off to fight in some stupid-ass war.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:36 | 4932444 Bastiat
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But it took Pearl Harbor to do it.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:38 | 4932464 Panafrican Funk...
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Indeed, the general populace was pretty vulnerable to false flag operations.  They still are today, though hopefully less so.  

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:11 | 4932613 SuperRay
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All of those "crews" have one thing in common - they're products of the deliberate dumbing down of America that has been going on since the sixties. They're so far gone now that their connection to history is last year's tv show or video game. Bring on the end fucking times and get me out of this collection of subhuman zombies. They can't think their way out of a paper bag, but they sure can make baby zombies...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:46 | 4933448 Crawdaddy
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Remember the Maine!

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:03 | 4933669 Oldwood
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We are an easy population to defeat now. Cynicism as destroyed any chance of people responding to a real threat, Unless of course, they are offering something for free. Reading posts here, it is pretty obvious that few would fight for anything or one other than themselves. It may be the way the world should be, but its not.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:44 | 4933829 Tall Tom
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Not true. I will lay down my life for other worthy people.


THe question is whom are the worthy?


The Gay President and his hermaphrodite wife are not worthy.


The FSA is not worthy.


The Socialist is not worthy.


The Statiist is not worthy (well...some are...).


The dishonest and bankers are not worthy.


The criminal is not worthy.


My relatives??? Some are worthy and some are not.


My friends are worthy.


The children, the innocent, are the second to the most worthy.


My God in heaven is most worthy.


Do you believe that your nation is worthy of that sacrifice, oldwood?


Whom are worthy, for laying down, for sacrificing your life in your eyes, oldwood?


It needs not be answered here. It is just something to consider as you may be asked in the make the ultimate sacrifice.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:01 | 4933902 SmackDaddy
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had me til the end.  dying for religion = all time dumbest thing in history (and oldest trick in the book of tptb)

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:16 | 4933943 Tall Tom
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We are not going to agree on everything SmackDaddy.


I believe in God. You may or may not.


Now I did NOT write laying down my life for a fucking institutional "church" that was fabricated by men as an apostasy to that which was taught by Jesus...


They are unworthy.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:21 | 4933990 SmackDaddy
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do you believe in heaven?  that was always a non-starter for me.  implies eternal consciousness, right?  man i already cant stand myself and its only been 33 years....

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:36 | 4934038 Tall Tom
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Yeah. I do believe in Heaven. Energy cannot be created or destroyed and concious energy is energy.


You are only 33? LOL Shit it gets worse. I have been around 55 years and cannot stand myself.


But I also believe that all of our negative energy, our sins, will be removed upon the transcendense into Heaven.



Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:39 | 4934332 Crawdaddy
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FWIW I'm a believer. You gotta choose sides. They did.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:21 | 4934394 Tall Tom
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I think that you know that I have already chosen the right side.


Though the more important question is, that remains to be answered, "Did the right side choose me?"


It is Jesus that make the choice for those whom belong and those whom do not. All of the glory goes to God.


He prunes the branches to increase his yield as any good farmer will do.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:44 | 4934434 Crawdaddy
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Yes indeed TT. The Word is there for all to see. For even heathens like us. The world and its earthly kings work hard to hide it


Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:17 | 4933716 artless
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@Gaius Frakkin'

"For example, let's take the so-called "greatest generation". After +10 years in a severe depression they should have had the insight to understand who caused it and why, but instead they went off to fight in some stupid-ass war."

Yep. The so-called "greatest generation" That gave birth to the boomers. THE two generations that have done more to fuck up this shit mess of a country than any of the rest of us could ever achieve.

And they're leaving us with the bill as well.

Fuck you all you thieving, lying, shit for brains parasites. You are lucky your children and grandchildren don't shoot you in the face for all that you have done.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:49 | 4933923 Crawdaddy
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What will generations twice removed from today say about your stewardship? Do not be so quick to condemn previous generations. They labored with the same ratios of dumbass/aware that we have right now.

Don't get sidetracked with intergenerational conflict. It is counterproductive by design. Inform and resist, one human at a time.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:53 | 4934212 NidStyles
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I find that amusing. The Boomers were the first generation to fully buy into Keynesian nonsense nearly 100%. Maybe .0001% of the population of that generation didn't buy into it and land the debt on the future generations. The rest bought in fully to have their utopia, and talking to you guys now makes it that much more obvious with how many of you are still the social justice types telling other who to not confront and that "we" should be united. 


You and me can get along just fine, just refrain from telling me what I should be doing. ;-)


The sooner you Boomers understand this, the sooner you will understand why the XYZ generations want nothing to do with your BS stories anymore. The divide is not imagined, it is real and it's 100% natural for there to be divisions as not everyone is culturally the same.


You guys dropped the ball on your watch and now you want to pretend to be the "authorities" to help clean it up. 


Crisis, Reaction, Solution.


You see Marx did make some very valid points, and how people tend to stick to his dialectic after years of believing it to be true was very accurate. Not one single Baby Boomer will be alive by time this whole situation they built up unravels fully. Their great great grandchildren might be coming of age still by then though.

Hey that generation might scorn me, but at least I didn't spend my entire adult life creating the mess. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:24 | 4934304 Crawdaddy
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If all people older than 40 dissolved to the soil right now, would that solve anything? Would NAFTA be repealed? Patriot act? Will the Bernake and Mr Yellen return to the magic closet? Will the TSA still grab your nut sack while standing aside while Honduras moves in?

You and I are created beings. As such we are in league together once the false divisions are lain bare. Recognize the troubles of the world are not of a boomers making.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:42 | 4934336 UselessEater
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The influence and power of the ancient Black Venetian Nobility affects us all today - this surpasses generational blame.

Try Babylon's Banksters by Joseph P Farrell, as he states "its high time to have done with them". For that we are all responsible, no matter our generation, once we wake-up we realize we're in the same boat and we each have a personal responsibility.

FWIW I'm gen X, but when I am with my inter-generational family, we're one the same page - we're just trying to figure out how to alert others, grateful we're awake together and trying navigate our way through the mess before us.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:47 | 4934348 Crawdaddy
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Agreed & I'll read that. Gracias UE

It is high time we are done with them.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:08 | 4932182 hedgeless_horseman
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The little horsemen are not on the government dole, not on prescription drugs, like to cut the sleeves off of their t-shirts to show off their athletic physiques, and spent the holiday at practice with teammates, wake boarding with friends, setting off fireworks with family and friends, shooting pistols with Mrs Horseman and me, and half-a-day felling four dead trees with a chainsaw.  They also did their regular chores such as mow and weedeat.  This is typical behavior for our kids, and for many of the Southern boys in our Texas town. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:20 | 4932343 thamnosma
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well, whoop-de-do for you

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 16:43 | 4932986 Supernova Born
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Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:14 | 4933710 Tall Tom
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You do not support hedgeless_horseman's behavior in the raising of his own?


His children will not become part of the problem.


I enjoyed the Fourth of July with a family that raises their children well. They will not become part of the problem either.


It is too bad that that Redneck Alabaman is still immersed into the Matrix and believes in his Government.


But I know that his CHARACTER will see him through. His children are a reflection of that character.


It seems as if you are somewhat envious. Envy is a VICIOUS attribute. The word vicious means...PRONE TO VICE.


Lose your envy as it will destroy you. It harms no one else but you. Lose it.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:58 | 4934231 NidStyles
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Laziness is the side-effect of lack of opportunity. 

It is not the cause of anything. Unless you enjoy wasting your time to spend 70+% of your income to just barely staying alive that is. Life is better on the dole doing nothing instead. 


Never assume that you are not part of the problem is you are still considered in the equation even if it is just as a statistic. The real problem is not the social ills, but the currency itself.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:13 | 4934389 Tall Tom
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Laziness is the side-effect of lack of opportunity. 


I have learned that opportunities are not something which are handed to you on a Silver Platter. I go out of my way to CREATE opportunities by using my imagination...Imagine that?


Now you are a creative person also. You are one of the Two Percent that can actually understand the Mathematics and the Physics. I know that.


However most are not as gifted as you with that. In that sense they are lazy as they do not have the ability to concentrate and solve complex problems.


No life is not better on the dole for most. They lack imagination and wither their time away watching the TV Set for lame entertainment. The dole does not offer the opportunities for the finer things of life. They have no idea with what to do with all of that empty time.


I agree that the currency is bad but it is only a reflection of the inherent fraud within the society. A moral society produces a moral currency. An immoral society produces an immoral currency. It is that elegant, that simple.


You have the cause and the effect confused.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:24 | 4932366 Miles Ahead
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Impressive.  With all that athletics practicing, wake boarding, mowing and weedeating, they shouldn't have needed chainsaws to fell a couple of couple of trees.  Ony four?  I would have thought they would rip'em apart bare handed.

But now at least we know from where American will rise again.  Small towns in Southern Texas. Yee haa.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:46 | 4934419 Tall Tom
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We as Americans were a Nation founded by people on the Frontier. Yes it was the small Frontier Towns and the work ethic instilled which brought us to greatness.


Yes it has been corrupted by the City Slickers and their fraudulent Financial Games.


And after it all collapses under the weight of dishonesty and fraud it will be, once again, the frontier towns, with their work ethic, will allow us the opportunity to rebuild upon the firm foundations of Honesty and Integrity.


That is my hope.


Thank God I am a Country Boy.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:24 | 4932367 DoChenRollingBearing
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I see nothing wrong with that h_h.  I am happy to see that some things have not changed (much).  How you got five reds so fast mystifies me.

The little ones in your family (along with ours) will wind up pulling the cart though, while what Kunstler and most of us see will take the free ride.

As an above responder said: we are so screwed.  Ugh.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:37 | 4932460 thamnosma
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It was the smarmy arrogant bragging.  Not the facts, his attitude sucked.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:45 | 4932493 Miles Ahead
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No, he could have stretched it to 10 trees barehanded while texting on their American Made iPhones...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:19 | 4932563 hedgeless_horseman
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If you knew JHK, then you would know he hates the South and loves to let everyone know it.  I am not bragging, merely responding to JHK's observations of the boys in his NY town with point-by-point observations of my boys' holiday weekend.

If JHK wants to place blame for the decline of America, then in my opinion he should start with our own generation, and not the next one.

PS: I have a great attitude.

PPS: I have purchased, read, and recommended many of JHK's book (frequently on ZH).  I especially liked, The Geography of Nowhere.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 08:04 | 4934788 Lanka
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Please continue to take pride in your family.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:24 | 4933745 Tall Tom
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thamnosma...If you read it as bragging then that is YOUR problem. That reveals your attitude.


I read it as reporting.


There are many whom are immersed into that Gang Banger Adult-Child mentality and it is directly due to their upbringing.


They make the news when they shoot up schools or do other heinous crimes. But then there are many more whom are solid children which is also due to their upbringing.


"My" kids are not into that crap as I would whip their ass when they needed it. (I have plenty of nieces and nephews...none of my own.)


I read hedgeless horseman's post as a report. I support it.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:25 | 4934138 Errol
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I agree with Tall Tom.  Let's stop whining about Kunstler and HH's style and discuss the substance of their observations.  To wit, I work in an inner city high school, and can testify to the infantilization of an entire generation.  Corporations and government have worked very hard to infantilize young adults; infants are all id and make uncritical consumers, and are comfortable with dependency.

Unfortunately, their profound sense of entitlement, narcicism, and lack of real-world skills will make them a deadly threat when TSHTF.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:23 | 4934405 Crawdaddy
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You have the great opportunity to wake them Errol. Do your best.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:43 | 4932484 Miles Ahead
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Actually it was 7 reds in about 5 seconds as I saw.  But hey, who's counting.

So there we have it.  H_H kids and DCRB kids will ride to the rescue.  Salt of the earth.  We already know some small town in Southern Texas (hope it ain't spelled j-a-s-p-e-r).  What town of yourne should we add to our list of preparedness in case SouTex isn't so welcoming, DCRB?  I'm all ears.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:03 | 4933671 TheMeatTrapper
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Jealous, huh?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:28 | 4934067 DoChenRollingBearing
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I used to live in Texas, but no longer.  And Bearing's kid will not be riding to anyone's rescue. But she does know how to look after herself and not be a burden to others.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:14 | 4933708 Oldwood
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Face it. If your kids are not hold up in a basement somewhere, blogging about pitchforks and bankers hanging from lamp posts, they just ain't merikan.

People are lined up to blame traditional values as the culprit here, as they have from my youth in the sixties. Rejection of morals and hard work, replaced with self absorption. All our problems will be solved when we legalize pot.Those are the same people attempting (successfully) to take our remaining freedoms.

Good luck with your kids. I ask friends today who brag about raising their children with conservative values, while I agree with their perspective, will their kids be disadvantaged living in a world where people with such values will be the ones working and paying for everyone else.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:30 | 4933776 Tall Tom
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will their kids be disadvantaged living in a world where people with such values will be the ones working and paying for everyone else(?)


No. They will not be disadvantaged at all. They will have the absolute advantage as all of the disadvantaged will be totally unprepared for the tsunami about to overwhelm them and subsequently drown.


The disadvantaged will starve in the streets as the Socialist Government crumbles. The advantaged will have the strength of their character to see them through.


I firmly believe this. It is not hope but it is a fact.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:00 | 4934239 NidStyles
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If you work for worthless bits of paper and digits on a computer screen, you can not have real values. Youa re getting paid what your employers really thinks you are worth, NOTHING. More of Nothing is not something, it's just more of nothing.  

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:54 | 4933881 TheGardener
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Who is junking you HH ? Lecturing the boys on the obvious ?

Tellingly implicate the dead one of those is not even yet a good one ?

Could I help out at your site ? Thought a young men today to hit a beer can on 400 yards.Two shots. Do I qualify ?

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 21:10 | 4933938 Crawdaddy
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HH is a ZH publisher, saying the unsayable, so he gets a govt paid fan club to follow him around.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 04:32 | 4934611 NidStyles
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That is either a hot round or some really match grade stuff to hit sub MOA at that range. I bet you write your own dope too. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:58 | 4932198 daveO
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Seeing free, grown men dressed as prison inmates is a sign of the times. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:21 | 4932646 Bananamerican
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Yup. It's some kind of weird sartorial Stockholm syndrome....(prison is COOL!)
"To see the Universe in a grain of sand....or a pair of biggety-baggety clown shorts"
Culture COUNTS...and amerikan culture these last 20 years is the debased egg from which the debauched chickens have sprung.
Don't believe me? Try putting on some Carpenters to do your drive-by...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:20 | 4933356 benb
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I would say it's the sign of social engineering by a sick and pernicious ruling oligarchy.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:49 | 4933457 Crawdaddy
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And at least a century in the making....

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:59 | 4933510 Bananamerican
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What else could Anyone say?
It's the truth.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4932211 Headbanger
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Kuntsler fails to mention the clown clothes are for concealing multiple large handguns and "commodities" for trade.

So these clown boys are actually supporting the Second Amendment and the capitalist spirit of this country.




Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:00 | 4932214 Hugh G Rection
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Sounds like the author is not a fan of board shorts, he should have ordered a pair of cocksox online...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:17 | 4932329 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Maybe all the clowns are pissed too about the shitty selection of shorts at Dick's.  Just sayin'.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:33 | 4932431 Skateboarder
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He should have gone to the local skate/surf shop. We still prize functionality.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 04:33 | 4934613 NidStyles
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It's not like the internet doesn't have at least a million options in totality. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 20:51 | 4933865 SmackDaddy
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cuntsler, but maybe your little itty bitty stick legs are the problem.  not to brag but when you squat 405 and have 27" thighs, this is never a problem.  in fact im luck to find trunks i dont split....  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 00:06 | 4934374 25or6to4
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Real athletes, runners and swimmers, need shorts with about a 9 inch inseam made out of quick dry material so as not to be a drag when running or swimming. I've seen you bow legged roid heads walking, or should I say attempting to walk, around the gym. I'm surprised you can bend over far enough to split your pants. BTW 27" is not impressive . I have 25" and do squat other than bike,run, ski and swim. Pun intended.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:27 | 4935675 SmackDaddy
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well, those last two inches make all the difference..  ask you wife haha..  but seriously- no roids here.  and i play ice hockey now (which requires more skill and better conditioning than any sport I played as a kid- football (competitively), basketball, and baseball

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:54 | 4932183 drink or die
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I don't have the statistics or any actual data, but I suspect that Mr. Kunstler is a bitter old man with no family.  Or if he does have one they can't stand to be around his constant negativity.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:12 | 4932291 NotApplicable
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I wouldn't mind so much if his negativity was coherent.

This stupid fuck not only votes still, but he voted for Obummer...


Every time I see one of his "articles" on ZH it makes me cringe. He is exactly like every other inadvertent sophist (read: useful idiot) out there. He can clearly lay out the problems which are destroying society, yet every one of his solutions is merely the creation of the next problem, as he fails to understand the root cause of any of them (you know, like say... IOU fiat currency from central banking). No, he insists that this time, the criminals will act in our interest.

For this to occur at ZH saddens me, as it's obvious he's never taken the slightest interest in learning something here himself.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:26 | 4932380 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Nice compact analysis that is spot-on.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 17:04 | 4933040 Lore
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@NotApplicable: You nailed it. Kunt writes fun prose, but Agenda 21 greenshirts are his base. Always, his snide satire justifies greater collectivism. Strategic political naiveté is profitable! It serves vested interests to see their myths 'evergreened.'

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:31 | 4932417 Miles Ahead
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@drink and die.  I have some statistics for ya.  So far you're down +7 to -12. 

Besides I don't think there would be any such statistics to support such a suspicion, let alone data.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:59 | 4932845 drink or die
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Maybe you should tell that to the auther too, as he used the exact same phrase.  

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 22:35 | 4934166 TheAnswerIs42
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Really. He has been doing the same old for years. Over and over and over again.

It has become tiresome.



Buit he is a wordsmith.

Say someting useful or STFU.

I will take that advice.

Good bye.



Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:24 | 4932368 Freddie
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Never has a society entered an epochal transition with such unpreparedness.

Some people are prepared with beans, brass and lead.   If Kunstler hangs in Crooklyn then he is not too prepared and he does not really get what is going on.   I bet most of his klan voted for O too.

NY State had 581,401 licensed hunters probably many with scoped .308 rifles and a few I bet reload.  They will be better prepared than most.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:20 | 4932654 Xploregon
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Frankly, I agree with Mr. Kunstler and, "clown" is putting it mildly. Fashions change. I have no problem with that but gads...have clothes designers forgot the whole baby boom generation? To me now-a-days, it functionality and durability. Tactical clothing has its place in my wardrobe for example but not always. In shorts, a 7-9 inch inseam fits fine but make it 12 inches and welcome to Barnum & Bailey!

We've gone goofy enough without wearing it like a badge of honor!

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 15:21 | 4932655 Xploregon
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Whoooops! Double post. Sorry. Bring on the clowns!

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 18:45 | 4933443 Squid Viscous
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and stay way from the bathing suit section, if you don't like them that's just fine with everyone else...

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 23:13 | 4934265 Tapeworm
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perhaps Mr. negative could cut off some cheap bluejeans for his swim togs rather than wasting the time on yet another bitchiness session.

 He is bitchier than most of the shemale maggots that he cries about.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 19:58 | 4933620 TheGardener
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All I now is when the Shangri La would no longer do I retired to the Raffles Hotel. Read you novels young folks.
Most refined suites original colonial style. Had to stay on weeks on end and the haute cousine at the resident restaurant would never fail.

Disclaimer : I`m a HH fan and would rather be junked than fail style. The style is the division.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:44 | 4932127 foodstampbarry
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It's hard to get anyone to announce it when their paycheck is dependant on the continuation of the fraud.

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 13:46 | 4932145 Dr. Engali
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The real economy was toast when Nixon cut the dollar's convertibility to gold and then  went to China shortly thereafter. It's been on a death march since then. 

Mon, 07/07/2014 - 14:26 | 4932384 thamnosma
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Our "long march" began here....

(90 second clip)

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