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Israel Escalates Gaza Assault By Air, Sea; Threatens "Lengthy" Ground Operation

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Following the catalysts of broken down US-sponsored peace-talks and the teenager deaths on both sides Hamas (admitting its responsibility for the first time) unleashed more than 240 rockets into Israel in the past four weeks (including 100 since yesterday), Israel has drawn the line. As Bloomberg reports, Israel struck more than 90 targets in the Hamas-controlled Gaza strip from air and sea and PM Netanyahu suggested the option of a ground incursion was on the table. This is heaviest barrage since November 2012 and is set to worsen as Defense minister Ya'alon warned, this "will not end in just a few days," adding that Israel "is prepared to expand the campaign by every means at our disposal." In preparation for escalation, Israel has called up 40,000 reservists today as news hits that Tel Aviv airport has been closed due to shelling as "Operation Protective Edge" expands.

 

As Bloomberg reports,

  • ISRAEL CARRIES OUT ABOUT 50 STRIKES ON GAZA OVERNIGHT
  • ISRAEL LAUNCHES MORE AIR STRIKES AGAINST GAZA STRIP: JAZEERA
  • ISRAELI AIR STRIKE IN GAZA STRIP INJURES 8 PEOPLE: AL JAZEERA
  • ISRAELI STRIKES TARGET GAZA MILITANTS' HOMES, ROCKET LAUNCHERS
  • PALESTINIAN KILLED IN ISRAELI AIR STRIKES ON GAZA: JAZEERA

More than 240 rockets have struck Israel in the past four weeks, including more than 100 since yesterday, the military said.

 

[Here the Iron Dome intercepts a barrage of rockets into Israel...]

 

 

Israel struck more than 90 targets in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip from air and sea and called up more reservists for a possible ground operation to quell a barrage of Palestinian rockets into its territory.

 

[And IDF's response...}

 

 

There are continuous air strikes on our people, an open war on innocent civilians, women and children,” he said on Hamas’s Al-Aqsa television. “Israel wants to turn things around and hide the truth.”

 

Among the targets hit today were command centers, rocket launchers, training bases and at least four homes of Palestinian militants, according to an e-mailed statement from the army. The military has also been given approval to mobilize more reservists in case a ground incursion is ordered, spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Peter Lerner said by phone.

  • ISRAEL TO WIDEN GAZA OPERATION, CHANNEL 2 SAYS
  • ISRAEL IS CONSIDERING GROUND OPERATION IN GAZA, CHANNEL 2 SAYS

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with top security officials at military headquarters in Tel Aviv and directed them to conduct an extensive and lengthy offensive that includes the option of a ground incursion according to an official who spoke anonymously because he wasn’t authorized to comment on record. The campaign is Israel’s biggest in Gaza since November 2012 and follows weeks of rocket fire and retaliatory air strikes.
 

  • *ISRAEL CABINET APPROVES CALLUP OF 40,000 RESERVISTS: MINISTRY

“We are preparing a campaign against Hamas that will not end in just a few days,” Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said in an e-mailed statement. “We will not tolerate rocket fire at Israeli communities and we are prepared to expand the campaign by every means at our disposal.”

Residents of Israeli communities within a 25-mile radius of Gaza have been instructed not to congregate in large groups, and kindergartens and summer camps in that area have been told to cancel sessions, Lerner said.

 

Still the US is shockingly quiet...

Abbas spokesman Nabi Abu Rudeina, in a statement posted by the official Palestinian news agency Wafa, said the president denounced the escalation. “The silence of the international community, especially the U.S. administration, will push the Palestinian leadership to make fateful decisions in defense of our people,” the statement cited Abbas as saying.

But there are concerns...

Some Israeli officials raised concerns about possible implications from the military campaign.

 

“Hamas is weaker than ever,” Israeli Finance Minister Yair Lapid said today on Army Radio. “Hamas is so weak that we also have to examine all the possible scenarios if Hamas collapses, and who will take over in the vacuum that will be created.”

But things are escalating fast...

  • *TEL AVIV'S SDE DOV AIRPORT CLOSED DUE TO ROCKETS: CHANNEL 2
  • *TEL AVIV MUST BE PREPARED FOR GAZA ROCKETS: ISRAEL'S YA'ALON
  • *SIRENS HEARD IN TEL AVIV AREA

 

 

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Moar powderkegs...

 

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Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:15 | 4935873 tolivian
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Ignorance and stupidity hurts and you've got both in excess, asshole

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:38 | 4935986 Colonel Klink
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Hahaha, thanks.  I'll take that as a compliment coming from you.  You can join Felchmeister in my fan club.

You may now resume reading the Talmud.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:20 | 4935640 JustObserving
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Not one US politician dared comment on the Snowden revelation that the NSA hands over all its data, including that on Americans, over to Israel without any legal restrictions.

No US politician will have anything to say about this attack either. Unless it is to offer support and praise for this assault.

The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”

The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:21 | 4935647 centerline
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Says a lot.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:31 | 4935696 Alea Iactaest
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Today's gold slam coincided with first strike.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:31 | 4935694 john39
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the hidden hand...  is no longer so well hidden.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:40 | 4936299 optimator
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That document certified Snowden was not a phony.  I love the part where Israel agrees not to use any information they see on our congress, supreme court.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:20 | 4935646 bbq on whitehou...
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Lock the politicans in a superdome with only a single key.
Will they share the key and leave the building? Or will they fight to the death so they have the POWER of the key?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:21 | 4935649 Agent P
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You know who's really behind all this, don't you?  It's the Jews!  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:26 | 4936505 BigJim
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'Jews' aren't the problem. 99% of them are no different to Christians or Muslims (though they are, in the main, rather too supportive of Israel... but then, so are most Christians).

Zionists are the problem.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 22:23 | 4938177 Agent P
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I think you're reading too much into my comment.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:24 | 4935656 Colonel Klink
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40% of Israeli civilians are in danger, but 100% of Palestinian civilians are in danger.  Funny how that's not mentioned.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:26 | 4935667 buzzsaw99
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they are working on a final solution to the palestinian question

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:27 | 4935676 Colonel Klink
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No doubt it's been in the works, they're still trying to find a way to implement it without the world objecting.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:49 | 4936031 Frostfan1
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That's not mentioned because Hamas announced today they can hit 100% of Israelis.  But don't worry, this is ZH and your lies about Israel no matter how ridiculous will result in 5 greens to 1 red ratio.  Feel better now?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:55 | 4936059 Colonel Klink
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Nope, frankly I wished they'd work out a two state solution but one side or the other always sabotages it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:37 | 4936283 Colonel Klink
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Yep they can hit 100% of israelis with .0000001% accuracy.  As opposed to 100% of the Palestinian civilians with 99.9% accuracy.  Usually the .1% miss hits some poor child, if they're not being crushed by tanks.  Where are the Palestinian tanks?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:31 | 4936774 Frostfan1
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And that's why 100,000 Palestinians don't die in each one of these flare-ups.  There is a limit to the damage the Israelis inflict.  Assad had the means to level a town, his own town and he did so. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 22:26 | 4938186 paddyirishman
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fucking hasbara clown the sooner israel is nuked the better.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:25 | 4935663 HamRove
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So I guess Israel wants to be reviled, hated, and scorned for the next 1000 years for trying their best to bring about WWIII. Since there was no trial or proof the Palestinians did the deed, I guess this is their way of taking matters into their own hand.

The whole world will shun them and the US should too. No money, no weapons, no help of any kind. It's your mess, you clean it up.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:27 | 4935671 buzzsaw99
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dream on

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:26 | 4935666 jubber
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Oil LOD ?

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:29 | 4935672 Dr. Engali
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This shit will continue on forever until there is a decisive winner one way or the other. But, then again, there would be no boogie mans either and we can't have that.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:31 | 4935695 Colonel Klink
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The boogiemen are fictional, the truly evil ones who invent the boogiemen are real and currently in control, via a small middle eastern nation.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:33 | 4935700 alexcojones
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Where is Jimmy Carter when you need him?

At least Jimmy didn't waste much time on the effing golf course.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:33 | 4935702 short screwed
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Mmmm...think of all those broken windows. Krugman must be getting a hard on ,

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:40 | 4935734 Colonel Klink
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He's already jizzed his pants, he's a premature eCONomist.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:36 | 4935718 orangegeek
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good excuse for Israel to take gaza

 

1000 year war will never end

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:41 | 4935741 Agent P
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"1000 year war will never end"

If that's true, then they should definitely rename it. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:07 | 4935832 MrSteve
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Israel gave Gaza up after the 1967 war and they don't want it back.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:31 | 4936252 optimator
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That was before the oil and gas reserves were found off the Gaza coast.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:37 | 4935724 youngman
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I dont think I would like somone shooting rockets at my home every day either....I would fight back....and hard...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:42 | 4936526 BigJim
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 I dont think I would like somone shooting rockets at my home every day either....I would fight back....and hard...

I don't think I'd like a bunch of foreign carpetbaggers stealing my land, corralling me into one fo the most densely populated enclaves on earth, and then regularly sniping at my children, uprooting my olive groves, and stealing even more of my land. I think I'd fight back, and hard.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:45 | 4935752 Seasmoke
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Israel is a festering hemorrhoid on the Worlds asshole.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:45 | 4935753 The Phallic Crusader
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ZH clickbait!

How long until someone mentions Hitler or Nazis??

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:55 | 4935787 lakecity55
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Hitler.

NAZIs.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:00 | 4935812 magpie
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Before the Zionists and any dreams of Palestine, there were Mormon and German colonists, the Templar Society, in the Holy Land.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:15 | 4935874 Colonel Klink
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Uh, hey dumbass, the jews were around long before all of them.  Starting to see a pattern yet?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:36 | 4935976 Frostfan1
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If you're the one I chatted with yesterday, I think you're starting to get the place. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:47 | 4935762 JR
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It’s the same as always: Hamas vs. Israel, relative ineffective rockets versus U.S.-manufactured jet airplanes.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:00 | 4935803 I Write Code
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Yeah but the crazy Israelis use these very sophisticated, expensive F-16s to drop tiny bombs on empty houses, trying to match ineffectiveness with ineffectiveness, apparently.

You can think what you want of the overall issues, but this one aspect of it remains surreal.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:25 | 4935928 JR
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I think it is displacement and genocide of the Palestinian people. The Israelis, with the support of the world's largest superpower, have been effective beyond measure in overriding a whole people, imprisoning them, torturing them and killing them.

Now that's effectiveness.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:50 | 4935764 Incubus
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who gives a fuck about the middle east

let it burn.  all my life I've grown up hearing about this shit on media.  I. DON'T. CARE. ANYMORE.

 

i hope a hole in the ozone layer opens up right above it and fries the fucking place crisp.  good riddance.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:51 | 4935776 Infinite QE
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Zionists murdering people. What else is new?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:59 | 4935801 insanelysane
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Methinks Israel might be sponsoring ISIS and then will ship the Palestinians out of Israel to the new Muslim state. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:59 | 4935808 paint it red ca...
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I suspect it a mistake to so naive as to assume the CIASIS and Gaza operations/timing to be unrelated events. There surely is convergence in the making....

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:02 | 4935814 The Phallic Crusader
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Israeli Lawmaker’s Call for Genocide of Palestinians Gets Thousands of Facebook Likes:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-lawmakers-call-for-genocide-of-pale...

Strangely, no coverage out this outside a website I've only seen links to on this website.

Wouldn't FB basically immediately block and ban anyone doing the reverse?

p.s. Racist hatemonger or not - she's pretty fuckable.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:02 | 4935817 teslaberry
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the fahr 5 is the rocket placing tel aviv in range of gaza. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fajr-5

the closest they've come to a direct strike on tel aviv is rishon ltzion---southern subrub or tel aviv in gush dan. it's basically like park slope of tel aviv.  tel aviv is the 'manhattan' of  "gush dan" which is the tel aviv metropolitcan area at large, almost 50% larger than the 5 boroughs, but substantially smaller than the new york metropolitan area including jersey westcheser and proximate long island. 

if a missile hits tel aviv proper---which is the very heart of the psychological core of israel it will solicit about as big as an 'overreaction' as is possible from israel. 

 

why? because where people who are afraid of bus bombings ( which have stopped since the wall was built) can stay at home and just not go on busses-------those people will now not really feel 'safe' in their homes. 

 

the perpetural state of fear, most of which is of course unwarranted---is milked by the governments to gain more power to do as they please. think about the over-reaction to 9/11 [ even if you think it is or isn't a conspiracy]---the reaction itself cannot be denied. 

 

now think that, but with the 'perpetrators' living 40 miles away in central jersey. that's the dynamic. say what you will about whoever you want, but that's just the dynamic.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:26 | 4936230 optimator
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What are the casualty reports from Israel an Gaza?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:08 | 4935838 TNTARG
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Amazing, isn't it?

They're going to exterminate the Palestinians.

With the complicity of almost the entire "World leaders".

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:09 | 4935841 Fix It Again Timmy
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It all boils down to whose land is this and we know the answer to that....Why is Palestine called Israel?....

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:20 | 4935902 Rikky
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I'll say it again for those who are too ignorant to know their history.  Palestine was never an Arab entity and never belonged to the Arabs. The Jews of Israel did not steal the land from the Arabs. At the time of the rise of Zionism the Arab population in Palestine was 250,000 of whom the great majority were newcomers. What is more very few were land owners. They were debt-ridden peasants, nomads and Bedouins. Turkey owned 72% of the land. Sovereignty over the land was transferred to England and ownership passed to Israel, under international law, in 1948. 8.6% of the land was owned privately by Jews, 3.3% by Arabs who lived in Israel and 16.5% by Arabs who had left the land many years before. 


The UN Partition Resolution offered the Arabs LIVING IN PALESTINE a state alongside the Jewish state. The Arabs of Palestine – and the surrounding countries – REJECTED the UN offer. Instead, on 14 May, 1948, five Arab nations invaded with the intention of destroying the Jewish state. In other words, it was the Palestinians and five Arab countries that tried, by destroying the Jewish state, to steal the land from the Jews. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:40 | 4935987 Infinite QE
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So where do the khazar fucks fit into all this shit pot? I mean, 95% of those who claim to be jewish are not, other than by picking up the bullshit story of chosen people blah blah blah to gain power.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:04 | 4936096 SillyWabbits
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Estimated Population of Palestine, 1919

Muslims 515,000
Christians 62,500
Jews 65,000
Others 5,000
Total 647,500

You left out one-heck-of-a-lotta-stuff in your summation.  You have to go back to 1917 at least before you can start a base argument.  Arabs don’t “own” land the way Jews do as they only “own” the product of the land, such as olive trees for instance.  So, when you state “land ownership” statistics, it is a bit disingenuous or perhaps intellectual dishonesty.

Palestine (the original name of the land that was mentioned by many historians for more than 2500 years ago while no one mentioned any Israel or Judea) belongs to the Palestinian Arab population that lived in the land for thousands of years (which is genetically and historically a proven fact)

"The position of the Arabs in Palestine is unique, for unlike all the foreign conquerors, they did not hold themselves aloof but, instead, made Muslim converts of the natives, settled down as residents, and intermarried with them, with the result that all now so completely Arabized that we cannot tell where the Canaanites leave off and the Arabs begin"
(Ilene Beatty, Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan)

Results of a DNA study by Israeli geneticist Ariella Oppenheim appears to match historical accounts that Arab Israelis and Palestinians, together as the one same population, represent modern descendants of a core population that lived in the area since prehistoric times", albeit religiously first Christianized then largely Islamized, and all eventually culturally Arabized.

It should be noted that despite of the many genetic tests, no genetic proof exists for Jewish immigrants who currently occupy Palestine that proves the historical connection to the land of Palestine that they always claimed.

Zionists claim that Palestinian people do not exist or they are simply part of the Arab world with no distinct identity. The Zionist slogan, first coined by Israel Zangwil, a founder of Zionism, that Palestine was a "land without people, waiting for a people without land" captured this denial of the Palestinian people.

Palestine's geographical location, its physical characteristics, and, its history, distinguish it from surrounding regions. It would, therefore, be surprising if its inhabitants had not responded in their own distinct way to their particular circumstances and developed into a people distinguishable from, but not without close affinities with, their neighbors.

The pro-Zionist British historian Christopher Sykes said: "This was indeed the whole problem of Palestine: it was inhabited".

Ahad Ha’Am, a leading Eastern European Jewish essayist, visited Palestine in 1891 for three months. He wrote:
“We abroad are used to believe the Eretz Yisrael is now almost totally desolate, a desert that is not sowed .....But in truth that is not the case. Throughout the country it is difficult to find fields that are not sowed.”

Palestine has been continuously inhabited since the dawn of history. From Ottoman sources it can be estimated that, by 1850 more than half a million people lived in Palestine. Of this Palestinian population 80% were Muslims, 10% Christian, and only 7% Jewish. Ottoman census was not always accurate and it excluded many Muslims who were not registered in the government escaping the military duty which was imposed on Muslims by Ottoman government in the Arab world.

Land ownership, also proves that the land has always been Palestinian. In 1910, Palestinian poet Muhammad Isaf Alnashashibi, warned his people from selling their lands to rich Jewish immigrants:
"Awake, It is your homeland. Do not let it be sold to strangers"
(Palestine and the New Colonization - Khalid A. Suleiman)

Palestinians did not sell their lands to strangers, by 1947 Jews owned only 6,59% of the land while Palestinians owned and operated 93% of total lands.

In 1930a comprehensive study of Palestine's agricultural potential was undertaken by Sir John Hope Simpson. Simpson reported that: "It has emerged quite definitely that there is at the present time and with present methods of Arab cultivation no margin of land available for agricultural settlements by new immigrants".

By the end of the British Mandate the total land area under cultivation by Palestinian farmers (excluding citrus) was 5,484,700 dunams, while the area cultivated by Jewish illegal immigrants was 425,450 dunams only.

There is a little history for “those who are too ignorant to know their history.”

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:17 | 4936186 Colonel Klink
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But, but don't ruin a good factually false UN cited arguement, with other facts. /s

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:32 | 4936260 Frostfan1
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One little factoid you're leaving out is what area are you considering Palestine. 

One fact above which is complete bullshit is the 6.59% Jewish vs. 93.41% Arab land ownership.  What fantasyland has the government owning no land?  What fantasyland has the government not owning the majority of the land?

And Palestinians did sell their lands to strangers.  My relatives in Israel bought their land from Arabs before 1920.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:42 | 4936309 Colonel Klink
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My relatives in Israel

Annnnnd there goes any objectivity.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:24 | 4936490 SillyWabbits
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In 1940, in response to Arab concerns regarding Jewish land ownership in Palestine, the British introduced restrictions on land transfers to Jews. Pursuant to the Palestine (Amendment) Order-in-Council of 25 May 1939, the High Commissioner was authorized to prohibit and regulate land transfers.23 Acting on these powers, the High Commissioner adopted the Land Transfer Regulations, 1940, which established three zones: Zone A (16,680 km2), where land could generally not be transferred except to Palestinian Arabs; Zone B (8,348 km2), where land transfers from Arabs to Jews required permission that was generally withheld; and land outside Zones A and B (1,292 km2), which could be freely transferred.24 According to the hand-drawn map annexed to the Regulations, what became Gaza and the West Bank was entirely Zone A, meaning that land transfers to Jews were, with few exceptions, prohibited.25 Britain apparently repealed these Regulations upon the termination of its Mandate (12 May 1948).26

[L]and located on Mount Scopus...was purchased from a British national in 1916. Boris Goldberg, a member of Lovers of Zion, paid for the land and took title in his name.51 He gifted the land to the JNF, which gave a 999-year lease to Hebrew University.52 Additional land was purchased on Mount Scopus from Raghib al-Nashashibi, Mayor of Jerusalem, and was used for the Hebrew University. Hadassah Hospital was also built on land purchased on Mount Scopus.53

...By 1946, the JNF acquired 72,300 dunums in the Gaza district, which encompassed more than present-day Gaza.

In 1930, a Jewish farmer from Rehovot, Tuvia Miller, bought 262 dunums of land in Dayr al-Balah in the Gaza sub-district. Miller eventually sold his land to the JNF in the early 1940s. The JNF then allowed settlers from the religious Ha-Poel ha-Mizrahi movement to build the kibbutz of Kfar Darom on the land in October 1946. They abandoned the kibbutz in June 1948.59

Stein reports a purchase of 4,048 dunums in Huj (Gaza sub-district) in 1935 but does not indicate the identity of the Jewish purchaser.60 Note, however, that the Palestine Partition Commission reported that, by 1938, only 3,300 dunums in Gaza were owned by Jews.61

In 1941, 6,373 dunums were purchased by the JNF around Gaza City, though it is unknown whether the purchase was permissible under the Land Transfer Regulations 1940.

The government of Palestine estimated a population of 3,540 Jews in the Gaza sub-district at the end of 1946. Information has not been found on the circumstances under which these Jews departed from Gaza in 1948.

There were Jewish settlements north of Jerusalem called Atarot and Neve Yaakov, which were evacuated in 1948.65

A settlement called Bet Haarava, and Palestine Potash, Ltd., both located at the northern end of the Dead Sea, were situated on miri land leased by the government of Palestine and were evacuated in 1948.66

During the 1920s and 1930s, individual Jews and two Jewish-owned realty companies, Zikhron David and El Hahar, bought land in the hills around Hebron.67 Notwithstanding (and, actually, because of) the Land Transfer Regulations, 1940, which placed nearly all of the West Bank in Zone A, the JNF began purchasing land around Hebron in 1940. It acquired about 8,400 dunums by 1947, some of which was purchased from individual Jews and from Zikhron David and El Hahar. The settlements established on this land were called Kfar Etzion, Masuot Yitzhak, Ein Tzurim and Revadim. The JNF circumvented the prohibition on acquisition of land by Jews by creating front companies. Most of the Jewish-owned land around Hebron was held, as of 1948, by the JNF rather than by individual Jewish owners.68

Some 16,000 dunums of land were purchased by Jews before 1948 in the Etzion Bloc and Beit Hadassah.69

Himnuta bought land near Jericho and present-day Ma’ale Adumim. The funding in urban areas usually came from state coffers, while the purchase of agricultural land was paid for by the JNF.70

During the British mandate, the government of Palestine leased miri land on a long-term basis (50 or 100 years) to Jewish settlement organisations.71

By 1948, the concentrations of lands owned by Jews were in the old Jewish quarters of Jerusalem and Hebron, on the periphery of Jerusalem, and in the Tul-Karem region and the Gaza Strip.72

* Apparently, 80% of Har Homa’s [Jabal Abu Ghneim’s] land is Jewish land purchased in the forties and before.73

The JNF lost land in the Dheisheh refugee camp in the West Bank as well, and this matter has been postponed for the eventual [peace] talks for over a decade.


Prior to Zionism, Jews and Arabs lived together very well. 

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:31 | 4936257 WTFx10
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Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:02 | 4936478 psychobilly
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 "Palestine was never an Arab entity and never belonged to the Arabs. The Jews of Israel did not steal the land from the Arabs. At the time of the rise of Zionism the Arab population in Palestine was 250,000 of whom the great majority were newcomers."

You are a liar.

Even the incomplete Ottoman census of 1878 (which many managed to avoid for reasons of taxes and conscription) put the Arab Muslim population of just three districts -- Jerusalem, Nablus and Acre -- at 403,795.  Arab Muslims were estimated to be ~85% of the population in these three districts and ~95% of the population of Palestine.  Unlike the Jewish immigrants, Arab Muslims had been in continuous possession of the land for 1,300 years (McCarthy, Population of Palestine, 10).  This renders the Zionist meme of a "land without a people for a people without a land" as just one of many popular falsehoods that Zionist history is based on.

"What is more very few were land owners."

 90% were farmers. 

"The UN Partition Resolution offered the Arabs LIVING IN PALESTINE a state alongside the Jewish state. The Arabs of Palestine – and the surrounding countries – REJECTED the UN offer."

 

On the eve of partition, despite being 33-37% of the population and only owning 7% of the total area of Palestine (20% of cultivatable land), the partition designated 55% of the land a Jewish state.  Nearly all of the land owned by Jews was along the coast or in Galilee, but they were given a huge swath of territory in the South (including virtually all of the Negev) where their land holdings were miniscule, including those parts that produced most of Palestine's leading crops (e.g., grain, grapes, olives, vegetables, melons, tobacco, bananas); this, despite the fact that Palestinian Arabs at the time were producing 78% of Palestine's agricultural output (by pounds sterling value, according to a British survey at the time).

 

What rational person would have accepted this partition if the shoe was on the other foot?  Besides, the Zionists only viewed the UN partition as a beginning.

  

"After the formation of a large army in the wake of the establishment of the state, we will abolish partition and expand to the whole of Palestine."

~ David Ben-Gurion to the Zionist Executive, 1937 (Flapan, Birth of Israel, 22)

 

"...it is impossible to imagine general evacuation [of the Arab population] without compulsion, and brutal compulsion."

~ David Ben-Gurion, 1941 (Michael Bar-Zohar, Facing a Cruel Mirror: Israel's Moment of Truth, 16)

"If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel.  That is natural: we have taken their country.  Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them?  There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault?  They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?"

~ David Ben-Gurion to Nahum Goldmann, president of the World Jewish Congress, 1956 (Nahum Goldmann, The Jewish Paradox, 99)

"The Zionist enterprise is an enterprise of conquest."

~ Berl Katznelson, Ben-Gurion confidant and leading Zionist intellectual (Ben-Ami, Scars of War, 12)

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 23:12 | 4938321 paddyirishman
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amazing the ability the ashkansi have to lie and steal.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:12 | 4935849 kchrisc
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Who's displacing and killing people for "Lebensraum" now?!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:12 | 4935856 LFMayor
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Back in my youth I had some friends who had hogs on the family farm.  A couple of times I got to participate in "rat beatings" where we'd use a tractor to move the big bin feeders aside and club the rats that were denning up under them.

It was a hell of a good time.  I wish the Israelis best of luck and good hunting on this rat beating.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 08:46 | 4938952 MeMongo
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Did you also partake in buggery on the farm? You filthy heathen!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:14 | 4935863 The Phallic Crusader
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same old same old....

http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/11/israels-latest-assault-on-gaza-the-li...

http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/02/06/the-truth-about-cease-fire-violations...

Not that I'm 'anti-Israel' - but more people die each year from slipping and falling on dog shit than are killed by those shitty rockets. The notion Israel's response is warranted is bullshit. The notion it is a "response" at all, instead of a response to a response to an airstrike or 30 - extra smelly bullshit.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:19 | 4936200 Frostfan1
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Yeah but the dogshit doesn't scream death to your family and send over rockets to make the point and if it did, all dogshit would be taken off sidewalks patriotically and immediately.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:17 | 4935876 NuYawkFrankie
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Israel: Public Enemy #1

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:18 | 4935890 JR
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This is absolutely not about a biblical Israel; this is modern state aggression. It’s many people like Sammy Davis Jr. and the Khazars (Ashkenazi Jews) identifying themselves as Jews that makes this a modern takeover state. It has nothing to do with the biblical Israelites or the Zionists’ false claim on Palestine as “A land without a people for a people without a land.”

Palestinian people: Wikipedia (excerpt)

The Palestinian people are the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries, and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab due to Arabization of the region. Despite various wars and exoduses, roughly one half of the world's Palestinian population continues to reside in historic Palestine, the area encompassing the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Israel. In this combined area, as of 2004, Palestinians constituted 49% of all inhabitants, encompassing the entire population of the Gaza Strip (1.6 million), the majority of the population of the West Bank (approximately 2.3 million versus close to 500,000 Jewish Israeli citizens which includes about 200,000 in East Jerusalem), and 16.5% of the population of Israel proper as Arab citizens of Israel. Many are Palestinian refugees or internally displaced Palestinians, including more than a million in the Gaza Strip,[27] three-quarters of a million in the West Bank, and about a quarter of a million in Israel proper. Of the Palestinian population who live abroad, known as the Palestinian diaspora, more than half are stateless lacking citizenship in any country. 3.24 million of the diaspora population live in neighboring Jordan where they make up approximately half the population, 1.5 million live between Syria and Lebanon, a quarter of a million in Saudi Arabia, with Chile's half a million representing the largest concentration outside the Arab world.

Genetic analysis suggests that a majority of the Muslims of Palestine, inclusive of Arab citizens of Israel, are descendants of Christians, Jews and other earlier inhabitants of the southern Levant whose core may reach back to prehistoric times. A study of high-resolution haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Israeli Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people

Incidentally, the State of Palestine, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, is composed of 4,550,368 people living at a density of 1,895/sq mi compressed into an area of 2,400 square miles, occupied and disputed by Israel since 1967 in the aftermath of the Six-Day War. In 2012, it was granted observer status by the United Nations (UN).

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:20 | 4936208 optimator
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But the Israeli oil and gas lie off the coast of Gaza.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:38 | 4936286 Frostfan1
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Yes but Israel has the rights per the UN.  Lebanon tried to fight but they no chance and no case since they only complained once Israel found something.  The UN said look in your own area.  Gaza actually has some expected gas deposits in their area but no one trusts Hamas to do business with them.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:21 | 4935895 RMolineaux
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I have not yet seen mention of civilian casualties on either side.  But the Israel air force is reported to have bombed the residences of suspected Hamas leaders.  It is clear that they intend to kill the whole family.  The rockets being fired from the Gaza strip (if actually done by Hamas militants and not Israeli provocateurs) are foolish and ineffective, but understandable in the face of their frustration at always disproportionate Israeli retaliation and illegal squatter settlements on the West Bank.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:44 | 4936003 robertocarlos
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Looks like they used 500 pound bombs and left a large crater where a house stood.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:15 | 4936178 I Write Code
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For a few high-value targets they do that, but IMHO should use 2,000 pound bombs as a matter of policy.  Too often they actually phone ahead and tell the targets they have thirty minutes to get out, then they bomb an empty house.  It is not war, it is patty-cake, and something the Palestinians seem happy to do forever.  I understand that politically Israel can't simply push all the Palestinians into the sea, and I guess don't really want to push them out into Egypt either (and of course Egypt has always refused to absorb Gaza either), but Israel has a policy of using too little force to be effective, which only keeps things going and going, which is no favor to either side.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:16 | 4936734 BigJim
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 Too often they actually phone ahead and tell the targets they have thirty minutes to get out, then they bomb an empty house. 

Yup. And then nothing happens, and, after spending a night outdoors, the family move back in. Then the Israelis phone them a 'warning' again, and the family scurries out... and again, nothing happens.

This happens for a few more iterations, warning after warning, night after night spent outdoors, no bombing, until one day the Israelis phone them with a warning, and family says 'fuck this, I'm sick of carting all my shit out into the open and spending the night outdoors with the kids screaming every time an Israeli jet screams overhead, breaking the sound barrier in the middle of the night, and nothing happens', and they don't leave the house. Then the Israelis DO bomb them and wipe out an entire family.

'Oh, but we warned them!' say the Israelis. 'Look what they made us do!'

Fucking Nazis.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:22 | 4936215 Dr Heisenberg
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Hey Genius,

The IDF is the only armed force to warn the public of an upcoming air strike as to minimize the causalities. It drops leaflets 30 mins before an attack warning people of an imminent strike. Where do you live so I can come shoot some projectiles at you.. but you need to promise that you wont get aggressive and retaliate.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:39 | 4936295 piratepiet
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the fact that you have to ask where he lives reveals one weakness of your analogy.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:17 | 4936739 BigJim
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 The IDF is the only armed force to warn the public of an upcoming air strike as to minimize the causalities.

Yup. And then nothing happens, and, after spending a night outdoors, the family move back in. Then the Israelis phone them a 'warning' again, and the family scurries out... and again, nothing happens.

This happens for a few more iterations, warning after warning, night after night spent outdoors, no bombing, until one day the Israelis phone them with a warning, and family says 'fuck this, I'm sick of carting all my shit out into the open and spending the night outdoors with the kids screaming every time an Israeli jet screams overhead, breaking the sound barrier in the middle of the night, and nothing happens', and they don't leave the house. Then the Israelis DO bomb them and wipe out an entire family.

'Oh, but we warned them!' say the Israelis. 'Look what they made us do!'

Fucking Nazis.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:21 | 4935909 European American
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The rabid psychopathic zionist shill trolls, from Tel Aviv and her lap dog, are having a field day here at ZH. They don't appreciate being exposed.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 19:28 | 4937494 Martian Moon
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I can assure no one in Israel gives a flying fig what you think or if you think.

The pro Israel posters here are your next door neighbours, and they enjoy popping your delusional bubbles for the fun of it

I've read this thread and you must have posted a dozen comments, troll much?  Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:31 | 4935953 GIABO
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I have concluded that Israel was actively involved in the planning for and carrying out of he 9/11 attacks, using Saudi agents, as well as Arab dupes as cover.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:42 | 4935998 robertocarlos
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I like how every Jew save one got an e-mail alert to stay away from the towers that day. Wonder what that poor bastard did to not get an alert.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:52 | 4936046 Frostfan1
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Didn't that email get posted once here on ZeroHedge?  Oops.  April Fools LOL.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:25 | 4936757 BigJim
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 I like how every Jew save one got an e-mail alert to stay away from the towers that day. Wonder what that poor bastard did to not get an alert.

I've seen this claim all over the internet but have yet to see anything like convincing evidence. Where's your proof this happened?

I very much doubt it, fankly, for two reasons. i) It would be too easy to prove and would point fingers at Israel, and ii) the Zionists have never had any qualms offing large numbers of their 'own' people if it serves their ends.

Who said: If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.

Ben fucking Gurion. That tells you everything you need to know about these monsters' mindset.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:05 | 4936896 robertocarlos
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It's a financial services industry complex in New York. There has to be more than one Jewish person answering the phones out of 3,000 people. They are 2 percent of the population and their numbers in bumfuck Iowa are a little low.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:11 | 4936145 tolivian
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I have concluded that you are a moron incapable of intelligent investigation or rational discourse. But don't worry there are apparently at least a few other nutjobs here on ZH, too dumb to be able to sift through the facts when a tasty though incredibly dopey conspiracy theory is so much more fun. Rational thought and considered factual explanations are hard and rarely accepted by an poorly educated populace with attention deficit disorder. Why nutty conspiracies, totally fact free and logic free- make for such simple explanations. That's why the simpletons of the world gravitate to them. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:16 | 4936184 Frostfan1
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But but but he comes to ZH, therefore he must be smart because there are so many people just like him here!!!!!!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:29 | 4936764 MeMongo
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Mongo will not be misguided as to the facts of this story! This is not let's relive 911 and argue whether it was a missle or plane at the pentagon, and were not arguing chemtrails and ufos........NO NO NO HASBARA! The fact is that real true innocent women and children are currently dying in massive numbers from depleted uranium raining down on their hospitals and schools at the hands of some very sick, sociopathic, evil, inbred folk.....namely jews! here we are page 5 and you shills are trying again to misdirect. Really you guys are not that good! Persistent yes! Good? Not so much. No matzo for you!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:51 | 4936348 SillyWabbits
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So, how about some facts???!!!

I'm willing to learn!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:16 | 4936175 optimator
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If you knew it on 9-12 they'd be really worried, but a decade latrer they don't care.  And put it in perspective, it was only 100 times more than the number killed on the USS Liberty.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:19 | 4936746 thismarketisrigged
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o u have concluded that, o then it must be true, u seem to be a smart guy.

 

you are prob one of those ppl who believe everything is a conspiracy.

 

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:41 | 4935992 robertocarlos
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I would want the USA to take over Isreal. Maybe relocate every non-orthodox Jew to Florida or an Island in the Pacific.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:44 | 4936005 jubber
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Oil getting absolutely pulvarised now, even with the US $ down

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:50 | 4936036 joego1
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When chaos reigns genocide rules.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:56 | 4936067 piratepiet
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Time for a one-state solution,

jointly enforced by the EU and USA, maybe even the UN. 

               Where are the real leaders ?  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:17 | 4936188 GIABO
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tolivian, in a perfect world you would be swinging from an oak tree...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:28 | 4936238 luckylogger
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I am no lover of jews or palestinians or any camel jockey for that matter....
However if you are a little pussy and run behind women and children after you shoot rockets at the big bad junk yard dog, your going to get your ass kicked.
They must have an IQ of a rat....
Or are just stupid....
They lost just like the indians did in the USA...
Get used to it or you will probably die after you get your woman and children killed because your too much of a puss to stand in front and protect them !!!!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:29 | 4936239 GIABO
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Frostfan, I'll string you up next...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:34 | 4936266 Frostfan1
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Yawn........

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:37 | 4936278 Duffy Duck
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If I were Palestinian, I'd blame Hamas most of all - perhaps not a popular view here, but the rockets accomplish nothing..nothing at all... but more dead Palestinians, and more destroyed infrastructure.

It gets *some* sympathy, but no action. The US government and American media doesn't have powerful Arab or Muslim lobby groups. Half the country's millionaires aren't Palestinian... there is no Arab AIPAC...

Statements issued by US politicians are as predictable as they are sickening.

But if I were the Gazans - I'd start taking out Hamas rocket squads...

Israel's apologists are absolutely everywhere on this... predictable, but the coordination and pervasiveness is remarkable. You have to tip your cap and admire the complete devotion, and complete disregard for non-Jewish human life.

It is almost as if inherent to both Zionism and Judaism is a complete lack of respect for non-Jewish human life. The remarks of more than a couple of "well respected" rabbis seem to support this....

e.g.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/07/why-is-the-us-honoring-a-racist-r...

^ can you imagine the coverage if a Catholic bishop said this sort of thing [not that Catholicism has any equivalent dogma to my knowledge]. Recent article on the 10 year somehow failed to mention his racism at all.

Neat, ain't it?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:41 | 4936284 Jack Burton
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I hope no heroic Israeli pilots get hurt bombing apartment blocks and market squares. You need to consider how these guys put their lives on the line for Israeli freedom. For Israeli who thought that they could pull a genocide like that which overtook the American Indians, they made the mistake of trying it in the 20th century when world sensibilites had changed. At a time in say 1750, a total genocide to conquer Palistine would have been business as usual and nobody would ever question Israeli rights to be god given owners of the lands taken. But European Jews tried this move in the late 40's early 50's of the 20th century. Though they accomplished much in ethnic cleansing the world opinion stopped them from a total genocide of the local populations. Thus we have the problem of angry locals pushed out of their homes and always causing Israel trouble. Isreali's problem is to get rid of these hold out locals without making world opinion too angry. This is not easy, they try, but whenever the death toll rises too high, then world opinion induces Israel to stop short of total genocide of these local people who seem to always get in the way of a happy, peaceful Israeli existance.

I believe if you put personal prejudices aside, just for a moment, then you would see that what I wrote above really is how this came to be such a problem. Americans, we do not have to attack Red Indians anymore, we have eliminated most and the rest are simply reconciled to their fate. For Israel this will not work because Palistinian locals keep having babied. Imagine your neighborhood if your county had 75,000 residents, and 50,000 of them were red blooded Indians. This is serious, consider that idea and you are not far from Israel's postion. If you have ever been in Alaska out of the way and been confronted by natives who still hold a grudge, you will know it can be very uncomfortable to be white. American peace and liberty is ours because we did the job Israel seems prevented from because of the new modern ethics of life and death etc.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:38 | 4936285 Dublinmick
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Quote from: Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 ---

"Our race is the Master Race.  We Jews are divine gods on this planet.  

We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects.  In fact, compared to our
race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best.  Other races are considered
as human excrement.  Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races.  Our earthly
kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron.  The masses will lick our
feet and serve us as our slaves."

(Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in
a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parlament],
quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk,
"Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:34 | 4936784 BigJim
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Begin was a terrorist. But the 'quote' is fabricated.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:42 | 4936306 world_debt_slave
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Keynsians gone wild

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:18 | 4936461 GIABO
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“We brought them over to the New Jersey State Police holding cells in the Meadowlands Stadium, and that’s the last I saw of them,” he said. Shortly after that, the FBI reportedly took over. The five Israelis were held for 10 weeks, but were eventually deported to Israel on charges of immigration violations. In November 2001, they appeared on an Israeli TV talk show discussing how they were in the U.S. “to document the event.” - See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=693#sthash.8besEqX7.dpuf

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 07:55 | 4938800 Frostfan1
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I know Scott personally and he doesn't give a damn about any of your conspiracy theories.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:28 | 4936516 Dublinmick
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That is a good one. I will be glad when the new hasbara troll kit comes out for Haifa high schoolers on how to chutzpah the goy. Some of this is getting stale.

That rabbi must have not only slobberknocked his crank with his teeth at birth, it looks like he got on it until your brain caved in.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:36 | 4936549 thismarketisrigged
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i gotta say, i love this site as i think there are a ton of knowledgeable people on here, especially when it comes to the financial system and all that stuff.

 

with that being said, and i know i will get a ton of down arrows sadly, but the way people think about israel is insane on here, and no i am not jewish and i live in america, but as a normal human being i can see things the way they r.

 

am i going to sit here and say israel is perfect? no, no country is perfect, none whatsoever. with that being said, israeli civilians for years and years have had to deal with attacks from these palestinian terror groups.

 

these groups do not have specific targets, they just lob missles into israeli cities hoping to kill as many civilians as possible. they are not targeting israeli army bases, etc, they r intentionally targeting civilians.

 

when israel does there airstrikes, aside from warning civilians to get out of the way, they have specific targets such as terrorists leaders homes, etc. yes, ''innocent'' people do die unfortunately at times, but that is in every war, not just involving israel.

 

these are the same bastards in gaza who were celebrating in the street with candy when the twin towers and pentagon were attacked ( let me guess, israel did 9.11)  and these r the same pigs who u see videos online of them beheading or executing there very own people, these r the same pigs who fucking hate all u guys on here unless ur muslim and follow there ways of islam, these r the same pigs who go onto school busses, hotels, cafes, and blow themselves up, these ppl r sick.

 

its hilarious to me how most people on here defend hamas. 

 

again, no one is saying israel is perfect, but in case u r not aware and think israel is being to aggresive, israel has been dealing with this crap for years, and any country that has been dealing with what israel has been dealing with would have been a lot more forceful, israel has shown great restraint condsidering the circumstances.

 

israel is a small little country surrounded by a bunch of countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth, yet israel is the bad guy here. 

 

also, these '' innocent civilians'' u here about being killed. many of these people are used as shields for these terrorists, they r a bunch of cowards.

 

israel should fucking oblitarate them once and for all

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:40 | 4936808 BigJim
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 am i going to sit here and say israel is perfect? no, no country is perfect, none whatsoever. with that being said, israeli civilians for years and years have had to deal with attacks from these palestinian terror groups.

Lulz. How many 'years' have Israeli 'civilians*' had to deal with 'attacks'? Oh, about 55 years.. ever since they invaded and stole the Palestinians' land.

*99% of Israelis were, are, or will be members of the Israeli military. Hamas members comprise less than 10% of the Gazan population... Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas on Earth. Hamas are not using 'human shields' - you simply cannot drop a 500-pound bomb there without creating a great deal of collateral damage.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:42 | 4936568 Duffy Duck
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From a military/strategic standpoint I have to wonder if a] Israel itself fires some of the rockets from Gaza to justify its airstrikes; and b] whether Hamas is controlled by Israel's clandestine security services. I wonder this because Hamas manages to kill virtually no Israelis while justifying massive military incursions into Gaza. Of course, Israel can largely count on the confirmation bias, if not outright pro-Israel bias of the American press to promote the idea it was "responding" to violence initiated by the other side.

http://antiwar.com/blog/2014/02/06/the-truth-about-cease-fire-violations...

Notably, Israel's numerous attacks on Lebanon's civilian infrastructure was reliably whitewashed, and the story was about Hezbollah rockets - which were almost without exception fired in *response* to IDF actions likely meant to provoke it. Israel is the master of the "they hit us [back]" defense.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:45 | 4936589 thismarketisrigged
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hey genius, the lebanon war was started when hezbollah kidnapped and killed israeli soldiers, but let me guess, israels fault.

 

then again, u prob believe 9.11 was an inside job

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:56 | 4936644 Duffy Duck
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What happened before the kidnappings, sherlock?

Why did the IDF destroy power stations and bridges and bomb apartment buildings?

You think you have me all figured out... inside job indeed...

Israel did 9/11 - with help from its Sayanim buddies and a few goyish helpers.

Everybody knows that.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:15 | 4936733 thismarketisrigged
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israel did not start attacking lebanon until after the kidnappings.

 

u seem really smart, u must have gotten ur degree from a very good college with your intelligence.

 

israel did 9.11, yup, it was israel, not the muslim hijackers who there was footage of boarding the planes that flew into the towers, it was all israel, and amazingly they got away with one of the biggest mass murders on u.s soil.

 

let me guess, israel also tried to take down the towers in 93, right?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:57 | 4936873 Duffy Duck
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"who there was footage of boarding the planes"

really - where?

The King David Hotel bombing, the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty, quite possibly the Marine barracks bombing...

And yes, 9/11/

But let me guess, internet tough guy - you refuse to allow that its even possible, because Israel and Jews are so wonderful and above that sort of thing - so you never spent 20 minutes on google to see all the evidence connecting Israel and Jewish neocons to 9/11, right?

The Arabs were patsies.

Now, go "dance" in celebration of the deaths of Arab kids, Mr. Israeli troll, and be glad I'm not in the same fuckin' room with you.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:05 | 4936900 thismarketisrigged
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But let me guess, internet tough guy - you refuse to allow that its even possible, because Israel and Jews are so wonderful and above that sort of thing - so you never spent 20 minutes on google to see all the evidence connecting Israel and Jewish neocons to 9/11, right?

The Arabs were patsies.

Now, go "dance" in celebration of the deaths of Arab kids, Mr. Israeli troll, and be glad I'm not in the same fuckin' room with you

 

lol, calling me an internet tough guy, says the person who says i should be glad i am not in the same fucking room as him.

 

and i could not even continue this debate, u r such a clueless moron, o u saw on the internet things connecting israel to 9.11, well everything u read on the internet must be true, so thank u for educating me.

 

again smartass, did israel also try to take down the towers in 93 but failed then, so they came back to finish the job?

 

its truly amazing how many palestinian sympathizers we have on this site, it must hurt u that israel will crush hamas once and for all in this war, and all '' these innocent civilians'' that are killed are used as human shields for hamas, so blame hamas for that.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:23 | 4936966 Duffy Duck
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ad hominems are cute, but why don't you just see who the 'moron' is for denying obvious links between Israel, Neocon Jews, and 9/11.

Scared to look?

Israel won't exist in 20 years.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:32 | 4936994 thismarketisrigged
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israel wont exist in 20 years, really smartass, if i knew you personally, i would fucking bet u any amount of money u want that israel still exists in 20 years and much longer.

 

u do fucking realize that since israels independence as a country, there have been many attempts to get rid of israel, such as the six day war in 67 and yom kippur was in 73, both in which those attempts were clear unsuccesful.

 

maybe u should do some research on those wars, israel is no stanger to this stuff, they have been hated ever since they existed, they will be fine, unfortunately for you, i know u want them wiped off the map, will not happen in your life time, sorry

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:41 | 4937029 Duffy Duck
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didn't say I wanted it.

Israel started the 67 war... it also started its existence through terror attacks and ethnic cleansing. The Jews depopulated and renamed over 350+ Arab villages that had been there for centuries, while your ancestors were selling liquor to Polish peasants....

Why don't you take your own fucking advice, you dumb fucker.

Start with "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" or "Goliath".

"Beyond Chutzpah" is also great - a master work, in fact, especially if you hate Dershowitz, the tireless liar for Israel.

Your ignorance is a choice, son.

If I were displaced by European Jews claiming to have more "right" to the land my family had farmed for generations, if my family was bombed, and their crops burned... you know what, asshole, I might not like Jews, either.

As it is, I have no problem at all with a reasonable, decent person based on who their parents and grandparents were - makes no sense to.

But Zionists are racists, whether or not they also believe in that "Jews are Chosen" nonsense or the vile Old Testament.

Do you think a Zionist state is going to do anything but destroy itself?

One just hopes it takes as few Zios with it as possible.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:46 | 4937046 thismarketisrigged
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yes, israel started the six day war and deserves the blame, because there was a major buildup of arab forces along there borders, not just 1 country, clearly with the intent of attacking israel, so your right, israel technically fired shots first, but if not, they would have been attacked first, and maybe they would have been wiped away.

 

blaming israel for the six day war, would be like blaming u if u had a bunch of thugs lined up outside ur house with machine guns facing ur house, so u decided to attack first before they can harm u.

 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 18:02 | 4937104 Duffy Duck
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lol.

Where do you come across - what you try to pass off as fact?

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2011/09/israel-perle-arab-...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:45 | 4936590 GIABO
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Hamas was created by Israel. Its called conflict, reaction, solution

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:47 | 4936597 kurt
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Perhaps it is not safe.

Is it safe?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:49 | 4936610 GIABO
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One of the biggest problems I have with it (outside of the fact that Israel is a Rothschild creation and does NOT represent Judaism but only claims to) is that without U.S. taxpayer money, Israel would be NOWHERE. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:35 | 4937008 Frostfan1
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Where else would it be?  Us taxpayer money wan't there for 1948 or 1956, no soldiers in 1967 or 1973.....

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:53 | 4936621 giggler321
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Another way to land grab from poor, defenceless, palestinians.  This will only end when the Z's go some place and they can pretend it's heaven as well...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:12 | 4936722 GIABO
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thismarketisrigged.. really you want to "obliterate" over 4.5 million people. You are a psychopath and you should be swinging from an oak tree as well...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:18 | 4936736 thismarketisrigged
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they r a bunch of pigs in gaza, thankfully we have someone on here in yourself that sympathizes with them.

its also funny how i do not see u calling anyone a physcopath who wants israel wiped off the map

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:24 | 4936969 Duffy Duck
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just about no one here wants Israel wiped off the map.

We want it to stop wiping Palestine off the map while sending armies of hasbarats to OUR websites to cry antisemite and shout hitler at us.

You dumb fuck.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:37 | 4937013 thismarketisrigged
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lol im the dumb fuck, says the  one who goes on conspiracy theory websites and believes everything he reads, mr 9.11 truther.

 

hey, i am duffy duck, i just went on wikipedia and read something, it must be true guys.

 

what a  fucking  uneducated douchebag

 

is this one of ur intelligent websites that you use for your info?

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=5367.0

 

i can also fucking type in muslims did 9,11 and get plenty of info, it works the same way. there are conspiracy theories about every fucking thing in the world u jackass, ur info means shit.

 

now go back to your mothers basement

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:43 | 4937038 Duffy Duck
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Awww.... did you actually shit your panties, junior?

Plenty of evidence connecting Israel, Zionist Jews, and elements of the US government to 9/11.

But then, you aren't going to even consider it, because they started brainwashing you moments after they chopped off some perfectly healthy tissue from your dick to signify you're the Creator's special little buddy, and you have special right to live in Israel, or wherever you might please...

Cookie?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:49 | 4937063 thismarketisrigged
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lol its funny how u think i am jewish, i  am not, but just because i am not jewish does not mean i cant see right from wrong, unlike urself.

 

now u can go back to your conspiracy theory websites and blame israel for everything else.

 

i guess israel is also responsible for all other al qadea attacks in muslim countries, or in european countries, israel is to blame for everything, u got me converted to ur logic, u win

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 18:16 | 4937168 Duffy Duck
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one more, last time - calling everything that implicates Israel in 9/11 a conspiracy site doesn't discredit them {whichever sites they are} - they discredit you.

I think, all this aside, you're afraid to look into it. You might find, whether you're Jewish, Druze, or a space alien, that the country you defend so zealously was, in fact, involved in 9/11.

It's up to you if you want to never look under the bed for the monster.... but declaring it isn't there without looking doesn't make you a devotee of the truth...

it makes you a scared little girl.

And a dishonest one.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 18:34 | 4937269 thismarketisrigged
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na, i do not need to do research, i have watched and read plenty about 9.11, i am 100 percent it was al qadea, as does most of the world believe that.

 

u r in the minority of ppl who believe it was an inside job/ israeli done, yet even though it is the minority, sadly there are many more ppl who believe ur theory.

 

i just want to know from u, since u do lots of research on this stuff, who was responsible for the 93 wtc bombing? because if that was an al qadea plot as well, not that i need this theory to know that 9.11 was al qadea, but wouldnt it make perfect sense how in 93 they tried to take down the towers with a truck bomb, so once that failed they realized they needed something more powerful to take them down, hence the reason they used 2 planes full of fuel for a cross country trip, that would bring down the towers, or does that make too much sense for u?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 00:23 | 4938456 Gadfly
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You are fucking retarded.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:20 | 4936749 luckystars
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"He who controls Jerusalem controls the world"

 

because Jerusalem is the seat of satan, and that why Jesus busted into his house and beat the matrix by slipping out alive.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:30 | 4936771 GIABO
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thismarketisrigged... were did I ever say I want Israel wiped off the map? Delusions are typical for people that are psychopaths.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:07 | 4936915 thismarketisrigged
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i didnt say u, i said ur calling me a physocpath because i said i want gaza wiped off the face of the earth, so i said to u, i dont see u calling the people on this site who want israel wiped off the face of the earth physcopaths.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:58 | 4936876 Duffy Duck
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Nuke Jerusalem.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:40 | 4937024 thismarketisrigged
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lol, u say above how '' none of us want israel wiped off the map'', then u say nuke jerusalem. 

 

makes sense

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:02 | 4936887 GIABO
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American aid to Israel accounts for something like a third of all US overseas aid when Israel is home to just .001 per cent of the global population and has one of the highest incomes per head in the world. This is even without all the 'private' donations from US corporations and individuals which are tax-deductible even when given to the Israeli military, unlike any other foreign power. RENSE

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 17:27 | 4936984 Duffy Duck
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The whole reason there are dual citizens is intimately tied into Jewish/Zionist influence. It was against the law and the Supreme Court overturned it on quite specious grounds {there ought to be a way for a supermajority of the House or a referendum to overturn scotus decisions}.

Think of how many billions American Jews send to Israel... mostly, as you note, tax free, even deductible...

I dont want us giving billions to Egypt or Pakistan either but the Billions sent by wealthy American Jewry to Israel makes it an especial insult to us taxpayers.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 18:12 | 4937143 Duffy Duck
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The Begin quote mentioned above may be fake... it may not be...one of the most popular 'corrections' is from CAMERA - a slavishly pro-Israel propaganda group. And the original writer was an Israeli Jew.

http://www.countercurrents.org/lamb010709.htm

Let's say its fake - statements *like* it don't seem to be exceedingly rare by Zionists or orthodox Jews. Might that be due to the fundamentals of Judaism - Torah and Talmud?

What about this asshole:

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/the-spine/78490/goyim-were-born-only-ser...

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Security-Watch/Backchannels/2013/1007/Rab...

This wasn't some crackpot - every religion has those and it would be unfair to generalize from them... but this guy was the Chief Sephardic Rabbi - half of Israel turned out for his funeral.

Or, could you imagine Christian chaplains writing about when its okay to kill children? Happened in Israel...

Or, can you imagine the press if a Catholic bishop said what this dead rabbi - a much "Respected" rabbi said?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/07/why-is-the-us-honoring-a-racist-r...

I mean - it seems to me that at the heart of Judaism, it is not all about peace, love, and the brotherhood of mankind.

I'm not saying Christianity has been either - but I can Criticize *that*.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 21:53 | 4938054 Thirtyseven
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What?  Only two Hasbara allocated to policing this article?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 00:11 | 4938440 Gadfly
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Israel was still-born.  When it decided it was going to be a "Jewish" state, (for Jews only), it unwittingly gave itself the kiss of death.  Imagine if the United States had tried to be a "Christian" state (for Christians only), rather than building its foundation on pluralism.  It would have become a pariah state, hated by everyone not a Christian.  Israel will either cease to exist, or it will be forced to change.  These are the only long term options. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:41 | 4940226 GIABO
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Frostfan... were in Jersey you live at? 

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