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White House Dictates: $3.8 Billion Needed To Stem The Surge Of Immigrants

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At almost double the $2 billion that many had expected, The Washington Post reports that The White House will request $3.8 billion from Congress in emergency funding to deal with an influx of unaccompanied minors from Central America. Funds would be allocated to send more immigration judges to the southern border, build additional detention facilities and add border patrol agents, to help stem the recent surge of women and children from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.


Source: Legal Regulation Review


As The Washington Post reports,

The White House on Tuesday will request $3.8 billion from Congress in emergency funding to deal with an influx of unaccompanied minors from Central America, a far higher amount that the Obama administration had previously signaled, according to a Capitol Hill source familiar with the plans.




Funds would be allocated to send more immigration judges to the southern border, build additional detention facilities and add border patrol agents, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the administration had not formally made the request.


The move is aimed at more quickly deporting the tens of thousands of women and children who have entered the country illegally across the souther border, most of them in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas.




Administration officials had previously said that they would be requesting more than $2 billion to help stem the recent surge of women and children from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. More than 52,000 unaccompanied minors and 39,00 women with children have been apprehended on the southern border this year, far more than in past years.


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Bloomberg breaks down the allocation:

Supplemental request for FY14 would support U.S. response to high rate of children, individuals from Central America crossing border in Rio Grande Valley, according to White House fact sheet.

• HHS would receive $1.8b to care for unaccompanied children, maintain services for refugees
• DHS would receive $1.1b for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, $433m for Customs and Border Protection
• $300m would go to State Dept for repatriation, assistance to Central American govts, media campaign to inform U.S. policy, deter attempts at border crossing
• Justice Dept would get $64m for legal support, faster immigration court proceedings
• President Obama separately seeking $615m for USDA for wildfire suppression, White House officials say on conference call with reporters

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Who will be blamed for this? Who will be lambasted for not signing off on the funding? We await the next press conference with President Obama surrounded by starving and wretched immigrant children standing 'Oliver-like' demanding 'moar'...


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Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:11 | 4935345 LawsofPhysics
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"Give us your poor, your tired...."


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:13 | 4935349 Manthong
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..and they did.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:16 | 4935355 hedgeless_horseman
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Immigrants or migrants? 

One group tends to vote for a living, and one group tends to work for a living.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:19 | 4935379 Stoploss
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Who gives a shit. It's about to be party time..

Looks like yardmens gonna hadda fight fo jobs LOL!!!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:20 | 4935387 jbvtme
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too bad giving birth was not more painful

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:23 | 4935413 SMG
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Yea keep spending, don't worry it will never run out.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:28 | 4935438 max2205
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Detroit should be pisses

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:35 | 4935474 brockhardman
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It's going to take a LOT more money to clean up the bodies after this is all over...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:40 | 4935496 Four chan
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it would be cheaper if obama would publicly state no children sent her will be allowed to stay.

they are only coming because of the rumour of obama's promise of citizenship.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:45 | 4935510 Herd Redirectio...
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Its all good, when TSHTF they can lead the hungry hordes on to the greener pastures of Latin America.  "Come, this way!"

Alternatively, I have for some time predicted the US would undergo a sort of 'balkanization', a taste of the former Yugoslavia right here in North America.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:06 | 4935588 Herd Redirectio...
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No.   Just no.  Please no one click on his link.  My eyes, they burn!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:29 | 4935684 centerline
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Like a fly to a bug zapper... I had to.

(zzzzzzt - poof).

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:36 | 4935720 Dr. Richard Head
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No kidding.  55 seconds in......ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:59 | 4935804 Handful of Dust
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This is hilarious. Peeples voted for Barry, Pelosi, Reid, Boner and so on and now they want to hand out moar Free Stuff and try to double the ranks of the FSA while simultaneously cutting benefits ot American seniors, etc.


'Ironic' is an understatement. More like "Droll Humor."

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:10 | 4935843 SamAdams
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No one could have seen this coming...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 18:25 | 4937220 COSMOS
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Amazing, they want more money, don't these mofos already get payed a salary to do a job.  Its not like they dont get a paycheck and are forced to stay at home.  The Russians after the Soviet collapse were going to work day in and day out without gettting payed FOR MONTHS because they loved their country and didnt want to see it disintegrate.

This fuckin govt only knows how to spend and do nothing.  Like a high priced trophy wife.  Useless!!!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:02 | 4935819 Meat Hammer
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"Detention Centers".  Notice that .gov didn't mention for whom.  

I was wondering how they were going to build FEMA camps without anyone noticing.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:25 | 4935659 dracos_ghost
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Please, these "toddlers" are all tatted up and shit. More like Baby Finster from the Bugs Bunny days.

If an American family took a toddler and flung them across a harsh desert to be left to their own devices, Obama would drone kill them, CPS services would seize the children and all assets and they would be put in jail(even after being droned since the state would want money for incarceration).

If the KKK or Aryan Nation types stepped up and talked trash, the media would demand that state be boycotted and ridiculed into oblivion. When the La Raza cunts do it, it's soooo romantic.

Last end run of the Cloward-Pivens strategy people. Wake the fuck up. Shit is beyond real at this point. This President is authorizing lethal force against his own citizens to protect terrorists. And Congress does what?! Nada mis amigos, nada.

There is no more civilitiy in the United States, no more rational debate of differences. My whole life I wondered how the Nazis, being the dumb fucks that they were, could rise to power -- well I'm living it in the USA with the OBammy crew of fascists. Absofuckinglutely sickening.

TPTB have won. Americans are nothing but little millenial metro sexual pussies led by John "Play for the Loss" Boehner, Paul "Check out my P90x biceps bitchez" Ryan, and John "Hey Lindsey can you shake my dick I sort of can't reach" McCain.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:33 | 4935701 centerline
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And then something breaks and we get a zombie apocalype.  Just fucking spectacular.

Oh well.  Might as well party like hell right now.  In a few years, give or take, it ain't gonna be the same.  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:50 | 4936034 mc225
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them people are smart. they just sending all dudes over, and keeping the chicks.


we should have an immigration policy: chicks only. dudes stay home. then it would be like (jan and dean voice) 'two girls for every guy'...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:38 | 4935725 djcando
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Better yet, have him advocate treatment in accordance with Jonathan Swift's, "A Modest Proposal".

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:40 | 4936301 boattrash
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Four chan, it would also be cheaper if we let their home countries PAY the return shipping, even if it comes from funds that we GIVE them. It would still be better than additional funding. Check out these $ ammounts from 2011.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:25 | 4935415 CrazyCooter
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The whole border issue is such a boondoggle mess it pisses me off. I was talking about this last night with another guy from Texas (who used to work near the border).

When the US government can spend literally trillions on shitistan, crapistan, turdistan, etc, but can't manage to deal with foreign organized criminals on our borders, it is a sad state of affairs. Most young men and women join the military because they love their country but quickly realize they have to follow orders from their government.

Personally, I would like to see our vets come home and secure our Southern border instead. Then this wouldn't be a problem, we would be more secure, and we could focus on our existential problems ... at home.

But, instead I suspect we will just give the foreign organized criminals a hall pass, send a few extra automatic rifles, and train their elite soldiers. When this goes to shit, life in the border states is gonna be rough for a while.



Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:27 | 4935434 CH1
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You're missing the point.

As the lead thug in V For Vendetta said: "Make them remember why they need us."

The purpose of all this immigration kerfuffle is to make Team Red remember why they need BigGuv.

All else is the march of the pawns.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:33 | 4935460 Dr. Richard Head
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Indeed.  The red team (which I was once a faithful member of) are advocating the government stop illegal immigration.  Why is it illegal?  Because of a government drawn line in the dirt. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:51 | 4935522 Quinvarius
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I think border security was never really in doubt as a requirement of gov.  All Obama did was prove he was criminally incompetent.  The left will only own this problem if they decide to own it by defending the WH.  This is all coming from one person's mistakes right now...Obama.

I am not saying I buy into the right left paradigm.  But clearly this was rogue behavior that transcends it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:37 | 4935722 centerline
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Eventually the right left paradigm will break down into every man for himself.  Not saying we are there yet.  But, cracks are bound to form and from them will result more than the usual bullshit.

Obama has abused the Presidency so profoundly now that congress simply does not know what to do to save thier own asses.  Outstanding comedy.  Wish I was a fly on the wall in some of the chambers.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:18 | 4935887 TuPhat
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Border security means protecting the illegal crossers from those who would stop them.   On CBS news this morning (the wife watches it) they showed them comming across in busses and when they get off the bus there are welcomming committees to make sure they feel at home.  You didn't think they brought those kids across through the desert did you?  The 3.8 billion will be spent on ammo to kill us dissident types.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:11 | 4936432 PoliticalRefuge...
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  No way a Rep. administration would get a free pass from the enablers for encouraging the breaking of our laws..

  Elections do mean something, if only to govern the speed we decend into the abyss..  that said every elected official should be swinging from the nearest tree and if this level of outrage against the citizen doesn't drive that point home nothing will.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 18:28 | 4937236 COSMOS
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Totally agree Coots.  Top priority for our military is to secure our borders first.  All this crap we are doing overseas is first a war crime and a travesty for our nation.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:05 | 4935584 Matt
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You would prefer to have another couple hundred million poor people?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:29 | 4935681 gatorboat
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They won't be poor after getting boatloads of your tax dollars.

They'll be fine.   You'll be poor.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4935521 NotApplicable
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It's almost as if people had never heard of "divide and conquer."

Because they're too busy being divided to notice.

We're gonna need a bigger face-palm.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:54 | 4935546 The Phallic Crusader
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"The purpose of all this immigration kerfuffle is to make Team Red remember why they need BigGuv."

No... it is not.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:16 | 4935867 Kassandra
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The source of the problem is the war on drugs...which has been lost for some time. Drug cartels in Central America have made life there hell on earth. Children are shot and killed for NOT joining a drug gang. Make everything legal and tax the shit out of it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:40 | 4935990 goldpercent
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Do we really need to tax the shit out of it?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:05 | 4936101 mc225
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unregulate. take the laws off of the books.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:13 | 4936447 PoliticalRefuge...
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The war on drugs is actually a self inflicted wound.. possibly fatal.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 21:05 | 4937835 Lost Word
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All you druggies will not like the alternative plan:

US Government enforced Death penalty for all drug smugglers and dealers.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:49 | 4935769 ThroxxOfVron
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 "Make them remember why they need us."


What a beautiful, symetrical strategy.  BOTH Teams win this way!

The Republicans claim that they are allocating money to get tough at the border and for deporting more illegals..

The Democrats claim that they are allocating money to reunite families, help poor defenceless women and children, and manage the border more humanely.

It's a classic Red Team/Blue Team WIN/WIN divide and conquer political manuover designed to fake out everyone while spending crass amounts of money building up the bureaucracy and private no-bid contract corruption.  

No one who is getting paid to manage the influx will have the least interest in solving the problems and putting themselves out of work!  

Once the illegals figure out that way more than the median wage of a US Citizen is going to be spent on each and every child that gets under the wire by this administration; the influx will explode and next year everyone will scream for a larger budget...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:34 | 4935462 ejmoosa
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We refuse to put the US of A first...

We are always  last on the priority list.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4935527 NotApplicable
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As long as you believe in the abstraction known as "we" you're always going to get the shitty end of the stick.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:55 | 4935552 asking4it2k
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Sorry Cooter. I dont want my tax dollars going toward putting the National Guard on the border. It would cost far less to simply have ICE crack down on employers who hire illegals.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:40 | 4935736 Pure Evil
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That's meaningless also. As long as the government is handing out goodies like free schooling, medical services, food stamps, housing allotments and they're allowed to drive around without drivers licenses or forced to get auto insurance and the myriad other laws they're able to evade just cause they're migrants, they'll keep coming.

The only way is to clamp down on all social services, end the birthright clause, and start deporting all of them.

Otherwise learn to speak spanish and vote democrat.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:21 | 4935906 TuPhat
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Here in Houston we have a welcome center.  They don't have to sneak in anymore.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:44 | 4936007 stacking12321
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that's because texans are a bunch of weak-ass pussies.

there's only 2 things in texas, steers and queers. and, boy, you don't look much like a steer to me!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:42 | 4936304 Dumpster Fire
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It's "I don't see any horns" man wake up

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:47 | 4935760 Bawneee Fwank
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"The Camp of the Saints" written in the 70's


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:51 | 4936037 XitSam
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Appeals court rules immigrant ‘dreamers’ can get driver’s licenses

And you thought this was your country.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:54 | 4936054 Freddie
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Our vets.  The Military always sells soldiers out.  The Military and Pentagon are cowards as America gets invaded.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:29 | 4935439 duo
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There was a time, 7 years ago, when people thought this was funny.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:06 | 4936106 Pure Evil
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It's still fucking hilarious now.

Also, sadly more true than we would like to admit.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:21 | 4935395 Pooper Popper
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Is anyone else BEYOND pissed off?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:23 | 4935407 jbvtme
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depressed and melancholic

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:32 | 4935453 CrazyCooter
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Pasted all the emotions for the most part (been a years long process).

This is the nature of our species. Consider that tomorrow someone genuinely developed cold fusion in a small enough package to fit on, say, a tractor trailer so its nice an portable. Great news right!?!? Well, population would just keep going up instead of correcting. Oh, now mind you, it will correct at some point, but it would be "later".

Humanity has overbuilt and the ethic/morality/character that built the world we live is is no longer in much the way a gaggle of spoiled children inherit a family business. We are about to live through a very ugly, long, protracted correction.

Don't believe me? Go to your nearest urban center (if you don't live in one) and ask yourself how well this "lifestyle" works if gasoline prices double. People spend huge amounts of energy DRIVING THEIR KIDS TO SOCCER PRACTICE EVERY DAY. And it won't change until it has to change. That change is coming, but will be a years long process.

Can't chose your place in history, just your role.



Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:47 | 4935517 Herd Redirectio...
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Yes, but have you seen the kids that DON'T get driven to soccer practice?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:50 | 4935771 Pure Evil
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My recommendation is to save your energy instead of wasting it on this fiasco, just one of many.

If this gets any worse than you'll need that energy to start planning on how to defend your family, your property, and any accumulated wealth you have.

We hear all this noise about how the government has FEMA camps for just such a situation but what we see the government doing is dumping these people in local communities without their consent, and with the government showing no intention to provide any form of assistance to house, feed or care for these people.

They're dumped in communities, give summons to show up to immigration court and then turned loose into the community with the government knowing full well that these people will simple vanish.

Obama was like Hitler toward the end of the war. He felt that the German people had betrayed him and was determined to leave Germany in ashes for failing him.

Obama is such a narcissist that he probably thinks along the same lines. If the American people can't see his greatness and follow his plans for a brighter future than he'll do what he can to sow as much destruction as possible before leaving office.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:23 | 4936481 PoliticalRefuge...
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.."If the American people can't see his greatness and follow his plans for a brighter future than he'll do what he can to sow as much destruction as possible before leaving office"..

  Watch it or some high minded jerk will figure you for one of those Republican mind numbed robots that just can't stand the thought of a black faggy asshole with a tranny in the White House who's dreams of destroying the world are coming to fruit- somehow they simply can't recognize evil for what it truly is.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:31 | 4935448 CH1
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Is anyone else BEYOND pissed off?

No, I'm not. This is what rulers do: Move a piece here and there to keep the suckers stirred up and begging them to "do more."

It's all a game, played to manipulate your mind.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:04 | 4936097 Carl Spackler
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What is Mexico doing for these types on their side of the border?

Oh, that's right...NOTHING

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:09 | 4936122 Pure Evil
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What they are doing is making sure they move north to the US/Mexican border.

Mexico has extremely strict immigration laws and enforces them with an iron fist.

The reason, they have enough of their own poor huddled masses they're trying to fob off onto Uncle Sugar. They don't need to add more from Central and South America.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:52 | 4935543 The Phallic Crusader
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Emma Lazarus is an interesting story...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:18 | 4935371 Amish Hacker
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Poor and tired we can handle. It's the "wretched refuse of your teeming shores" that's overwhelming the system.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:32 | 4935454 CH1
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LOL... that "refuse" was your grand-daddy.

If welfare is a problem, attack welfare, not a different flavor of your grandpa.

But better yet, stop taking the barbaric system that does all these things seriously.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:34 | 4935707 Miffed Microbio...
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Granddaddy didn't sit on his ass collecting free benefits. He worked his ass off making a life for himself and was happy to assimilate into this country. He would not have taken welfare if it were offered. I am proud to be his granddaughter and worked hard as he to get where I am today and am thankful he is not here to see what has become to his beloved country.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:56 | 4935789 Pure Evil
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These people are not hear to make a better life for themselves. If that were true they should have put more effort into it down in their homeland. Since a lot of their relatives are already here they're quite aware of the situation going on in the US. Namely that if you can get here you more than likely won't be sent back and you'll be eligilbe for all forms of government assistance.

You're kids get to go to school for free, you get free medical care, you can't be turned away for food stamps, you get housing assistance, and if you have children you get child tax credits even if you don't work. There's lots of government goodies just for the asking, even free Obamaphones.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:50 | 4936344 CH1
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These people are not hear to make a better life for themselves.

Clearly, you are watching too much TV. Try actually meeting some of these people.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 21:11 | 4937860 Lost Word
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Making a better life, or

Taking a better life?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 16:06 | 4936695 SmackDaddy
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used to be the man would leave the women and children with the extended family and move here and get established and then bring em over.  these deadbeats just turn 'em out to fend for themselves.  what a disgrace...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:51 | 4935775 McMolotov
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It's pretty simple: Close the borders until we've dismantled the welfare state.

Can't have open borders and the promise of freebies.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:56 | 4935793 Pure Evil
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Maybe you can't, but Obama sure can, and you get to help pay for it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:36 | 4935712 Sudden Debt
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Well, America was build by people comming from allover Europe, so you're all immigrants.

But the part they always forget to tell in that story is that they killed all the natived and took whatever they wanted. So when you see the new kids come in...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:00 | 4935811 Pure Evil
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Fuck that we're all immigrants bullshit. I'm not an immigrant. I'm a Native American born here in the US.

If you want to talk about being the decendents of immigrants you should take a look at the skeletons in your own European closet. It's not as if any white Europeans were the original peoples on that continent. In fact your relatives just recently moved in and either killed off or pushed the original inhabitants out not so many decades ago.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:13 | 4935862 insanelysane
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And let's embrace the Spanish speaking populations and never blame Spain and Portugal for their theft of resources or enslavement of the native population.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:12 | 4936150 Pure Evil
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Well, it does seem strange to me that people south of the US border continue to speak their original oppressors language.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:18 | 4935374 booboo
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Ah..the old "government creates a national emergency to create a slush fund that will do anything but remedy the situation."

 Unions must need a huge pension bailout and Barry has a solution.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4935529 Herd Redirectio...
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I heard a rumor mothers in Nicaragua are telling their children to stay away from white women, from 'aid organizations', who 'only want to help'.  Help you get over the US border, that is.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:20 | 4935385 Pooper Popper
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Didnt I hear it would cost 550 million to upgrade our power grid,and protect it from E.M.P. or solar flare???But they said it was to much to pay!

But we have 4 Billion to spend on Illegal ALIENS!

This government does not represent us!

Time to kick some ASS!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:21 | 4935394 LawsofPhysics
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You would be surprised what you can build/fix with slave labor.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:33 | 4935455 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Deport them all to western Ukraine, the new IMF/EU slave colony. They will learn to find happiness in a life of servitude and, as an added bonus, they can't walk or hitchhike back to the US.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:29 | 4935687 onewayticket2
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the headline should entice MORE people to come....obama giving out $3.900,000,000.00!  it's party time!  get some!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:39 | 4935467 CH1
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Time to kick some ASS!

How? By voting for the "right" people this time?

Time to walk away from the game - it's rigged for suckers.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:02 | 4935816 Pure Evil
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Walk away to where?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:42 | 4935995 rubiconsolutions
Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:24 | 4936227 Pure Evil
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There's no way you can withdraw you're consent. Unless you're willing to live in the wilderness of Alaska or live in a cabin in the mountains of Montana like Ted Kaczinski, you're stuck in the matrix.

The best you can do is minimize your exposure. Think about it, whether you own property or rent, own cars, pay utility bills, drive on their roads, go to their grocery stores, send your kids to public schools, or any school for that matter. All of your activities are carefully controlled. Can you live without heat in the winter or A/C in the summer? Do you have a cell phone, cable, electricity, sewage, water? You've given consent and then some.

Look at your current lifestyle, you're trapped. Have a job you can't leave cause you have to pay the bills? Have a wife and kids? How many materialistic objects do you own.

Sadly, for the majority, they've already given consent and sold their souls for a taste of the Western lifestyle.

You may tell yourself you've stop giving consent cause it sounds good in your mind, but that's like saying you can live in outer space cause you don't need the Earth to survive.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:54 | 4936357 CH1
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There's no way you can withdraw you're consent. Unless you're willing to live in the wilderness of Alaska or live in a cabin in the mountains of Montana like Ted Kaczinski, you're stuck in the matrix.

And here, class, we see the intellectual equivalent of a diode.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:55 | 4936641 rubiconsolutions
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@CH1 - +1000. Great analogy. On or off, no in between.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:53 | 4936628 rubiconsolutions
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Actually @pure evil you're wrong. I've already done it for the most part and I've never been happier. And guess what? I live here on earth in territory called the united States. Haven't voted since 1992 and done whatever is within my power to not take government services. And no, I'm not a hermit but rather have a great life with well adjusted and well informed children. But keep on believing what you believe because the government thrives on having subjects like you.  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:26 | 4935429 grekko
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...your freeloading, lice infested children.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:43 | 4935505 asking4it2k
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more like.. "Give us your cheap labor and refusal to learn english"

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:27 | 4935664 Peanut Butter E...
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You can keep the poors and illegals at your house if you like but I prefer my tax dollar go to Americans in need and our infrastructures.

Also just what is so difficult about deporting them? Rent a hundred bus at the detention center the moment we caught them we put then on the bus and drive them as far south as possible. I don't care if we send them to the wrong location, all it matter is that they are not entering and staying in USA.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:55 | 4936367 CH1
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Oh, you're SUCH a patriotic hard-ass!

Your mamma must be so proud.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:36 | 4935715 Nevsky
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Interesting to note the poem continues to state:

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free


Your huddled masses yearning to get free [taxpayer paid] stuff.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:12 | 4935854 Pure Evil
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Actually what it says is:


  Your huddled masses yearning to join the Obama Free Shit Army.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:03 | 4935823 doctor10
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this sounds like extrortion by DC.

either we won't do out job keeping them out -and you'll pay through social welfare costs-or double our money to pretend to try to keep them out

in the old days it was only a little cruder-brickbats though the windows of your house/store

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:07 | 4935831 Laddie
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Although the Statue of Liberty, properly known as Liberty Enlightening the World, was a gift to the United States from France as a tribute to American political traditions, the sonnet by the Jewish Emma Lazarus helped change it into a symbol of immigration. Affixed to the base of the statue several decades after its construction, the poem welcomes to America "huddled masses yearning to breathe free / The wretched refuse of your teeming shore."

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:12 | 4935346 redpill
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Or you know we could send the national guard to the border and stop it immediately.

But then that's not the plan, is it.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:16 | 4935366 Sudden Debt
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If you're against mexicans, you're also against taco's.

Remember that.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:18 | 4935380 Headbanger
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And tequila!

And keeping Mexicans gainfully employed making it is the only reason I buy the stuff.


/el sarco

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:28 | 4935680 Sudden Debt
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You sir... Are a saint!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:11 | 4935848 Meat Hammer
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El sarcasmo

For future reference...

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:19 | 4935382 Dr. Engali
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The shit that gets served here no where near resembles a real taco.  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:36 | 4935477 Flagit
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If you're against mexicans, you're also against taco's.

Remember that.

I asked someone from Mexico if they had Taco Bell there.

He looked around, and shruged. "I don't know....probably".

I replied, "Cause everyone knows Mexicans eat tacos. Its like their staple food group."

He laughed and said, "You live near Chicago, right? You probably had hot dogs for dinner. The only people that make tacos are street vendors. Then one of your uncles tells you about how sick he got from eating it."


Go find someone from Mexico and ask them. I bet you get the same answer.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:26 | 4935426 XAU XAG
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Keep them just long enough to build the wall!


call it slave labour................make sure they are on the other side when the last brick drops in.


That should fix it

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:49 | 4935532 asking4it2k
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Why should my tax dollars go toward paying to have the National Guard there?? Instead we should crack down hard on employers which would get the job done and cost taxpayers far less.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:53 | 4935542 RacerX
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Yeah I keep thinking that.. at what point does Perry, Brewer, call up the National Guard?

And it amazes me how there's not more of an outcry against this.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:00 | 4935564 WillyGroper
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Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:10 | 4935842 Meat Hammer
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Oh, the National Guard will be sent....just not for the immigrants.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:12 | 4935347 Manthong
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Mexico is letting them pass.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:14 | 4935361 Zadok
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Border fence: $2.5 Billion
Request for nonsense: $3.8 Billion
That we don't say NO! : Priceless

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:18 | 4935376 Tabarnaque
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Don't forget 5 billons to spur a bloody revolution in Ukraine and half a billon to arm and train Al Qaeda in Syria.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:12 | 4935855 Meat Hammer
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And a few bucks for a couple billion rounds of ammo...for the children.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:21 | 4935905 Pure Evil
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And 40+ million to provide the Royal Obama's with vacations and trips on Air Force One.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 15:07 | 4936413 jerry_theking_lawler
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So, you are talking about 1.5 days of printing for Mr. Yellen, right?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:43 | 4935506 Flagit
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No fuckin shit! Where are the stories of how these people/kids had to sneak past a brigade of Federales?

What are they doing, posting signs, giving directions? Mules to the left line, refugees to the right?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:15 | 4936177 Freddie
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We spend iver a trillion on the Military and all these Homeland BS agencies.  Get rid of it all.  The Military and Pentagon are supposed to protect the border.  They are cowards like the Republicans while the Dems and RINOs are evil.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:26 | 4935669 Itchy and Scratchy
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Just like a triple cheese and bean burrito!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:13 | 4935350 asking4it2k
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If the government cracks down on employers with heavy fines and even jail time they wont hire illegals. If illegals cant get jobs they will leave and go back home.


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:17 | 4935369 blabam
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All we need is just a little more coercion.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:22 | 4935392 booboo
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So basically you are saying enforce the existing laws??? what? you some kind of home grown tarrist'? I'm reporting you buddy!!!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:29 | 4935404 Dr. Richard Head
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I disagree.  Your proposed solution is one of giving government even more power to encroach in the business of other individuals.  As history has shown, that power will then just be utilized on the general population under the pretext of the "war on immigration", just as the war on terror and drugs has been.

A more plausable soltuion would be to let anyone employee anyone under a voluntary contract where arbitrary government lines are ignored.  However, it would be required that our government no longer given our stolen funds (those who are forced to pay taxes) to ANY ONE or ANY GROUP in the form of ANYTHING.  Employment is not a bad thing, but these socialized "safety" (corporate, MIC, banking, etc) nets have to go. 

The Feds are demanding that Arizona give driver's license to these immigrants and that form of identification would be enough for these immigrants to obtain social security, section 8 housing, socialized schooling, medical, etc.  Take away those incentives and much of the problem disappears. 

Then again, I am an anarcho-capitalises and despise governments at all levels.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:31 | 4935450 Dr. Engali
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Your analysis is spot on, which is why .gov will do the exact opposite.  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:46 | 4935515 asking4it2k
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Dr Head, so your against the government enforcing the laws ??


Are you worried you might have to pay American citizens a livable wage ?

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:42 | 4935996 Pure Evil
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No, what he's saying is that just enforcing the laws requiring employers only hire US citizens won't work without ending the massive amount of government funded social services nets.

So you won't employ me. Why should I go back if I can get food stamps, housing assistance, free medical care, and be allowed to drive around without a license or insurance.

It will take ending all forms of assistance, whether in hiring, social services, and expecially birth right citzenship.

But, don't get your hopes up as both red and blue teams are working against the American people.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:51 | 4935536 Flagit
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and despise governments at all levels.

Mee too.

Have you ever read the book, The Jungle, by Upton Sinclair?


Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:23 | 4935409 toady
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Better yet, start executing them and post the videos online. Especially the kids.The younger the better.

That outta make them think twice.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:06 | 4935575 Flagit
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My guess is that if they had electricity, internet, and a smartphone/laptop they would be able to see the mess they are about to get into.


What i would really like to see, is a breakdown of the route and costs involved in a trip like that.

Where is Geraldo, Michael Moore, or Cooper with his green screen?

If they were to go down there, my guess is there is a NGO basically buying children from their families. The family gets $400, and the kids get a map, a Redbull and a handful of Xanex.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:09 | 4935600 Herd Redirectio...
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Or straight co-ercing, tricking, or kidnapping.  "We can get you to AMERICA."

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:44 | 4936008 Pure Evil
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Actually, the best thing to do is just to pay them to stay in their home countries.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:24 | 4935416 grekko
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Wrong!  There is an underground economy for them.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:00 | 4935568 aztrader
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This is when we as Americans stop supporting businesses that hire them.  Hit them in the pocketbook and see how long they last.......

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:13 | 4935351 Seasmoke
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This is Bullshit !!! ..... Everyone knows Free Lemonade stands are NOT allowed. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:21 | 4935400 MidwestJester
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As long as they aren't homeless, it should be fine, and I'm sure that the 'detention facilities' will count as housing!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:14 | 4935352 Frostfan1
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How much does it cost to charter planes back to all these countries and that should be the cost.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:15 | 4935356 Save_America1st
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Geez...Hegelian Dialectic much???

The farce sure is strong with these tresonous mother fuckers. 

Pure false flag Mafia extortion right there...amongst many other nefarious doings.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:19 | 4935384 tony wilson
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find out who gets the 4 billion dollar contracts


people processing refugees,child harvesting,killing for organs and ritual.

multi billion dollar scam man.

what is haiti but a usa military rape camp

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:46 | 4936022 Pure Evil
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The upper echelon of the British nomenclature is running out of children for its paedophiles.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:20 | 4935391 grekko
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I hear ya 1st.  I have to go in the garage and sharpen my pitchfork now.  Later, bro!

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:14 | 4935358 Smiley
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Remember when people were so stupid they actually believed the federal government's promise to build a real fence on the border?  That people believe a single word coming out of DC anymore is astounding.

America, Home of the free
Land of Fucking disenchantment 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:48 | 4936028 Pure Evil
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They were going to build a fence then Bush "The Decider" decided the 11 billion it would cost would take away from ability to build a New Democratic Order in the Middle East.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:15 | 4936179 Smiley
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What does it matter who was in office at the time?  The president is a spokesperson for the the political machine that put him/her/it in office: nothing more than a smile and a suit to read prepared script.  That people actually still believe that president 'so-and-so' is at fault for this that or the other is proof that the majority of Americans have no clue how the government works.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 14:35 | 4936272 Pure Evil
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You're right, it doesn't matter. But under Bush's watch legislation was passed to build a fence. It was said to cost around 11 billion USD. Then someone came up with the great idea of building a virtual fence using infrared cameras and ground sensors. This was talked up as a money saving device. A lot of good that has done.

It was proven that a fence along the Mexican/California border worked. Only problem was that it moved the border crossings to Arizona/New Mexico/Texas.

And, I'm really getting tired of hearing the same bullshit meme about the right/left divide and how they're all part of the same team, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Ok, assholes, we all know they're part of the same team. We don't need a parrot constantly repeating it over and over again.

Learn something else to say. Like, Polly want a cracker.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:15 | 4935359 stant
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Guess the dark chancy Gardner can't walk on water after all , and he doesn't own a bass boat

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:14 | 4935360 Agent P
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Where will we get this $3.8 billion?  Oh yeah, from our children of course. 

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:19 | 4935381 grekko
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Nope!  Grandchildren, our kids are already classified as indentured slaves.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:42 | 4935499 economessed
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None of our kids, grandkids, or great grandkids will service this debt.  The debt will be issued, but never repaid.  We do not have the capacity to repay the obligations that have already been made.

To suggest otherwise is just delusional.

I don't see how the debt-issued consumption cycle can continue much longer.  Fed printing is at the diminishng marginal return stage, and the willingness of lenders to support the consumption cyle has dried-up. 

But back to the illegal immigrant influx -- they are not welcomed.  They came here under their own power, and they will need to return under their own power.  

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 12:11 | 4935608 Herd Redirectio...
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The illegals don't understand 'unfunded pension liabilities' any better than your avg American does.

Either the gov't seriously reins in its deficits (and starts doing its accounting properly) or the currency will eventually go bust.

So, basically, eventually the currency will go bust.

Tue, 07/08/2014 - 13:53 | 4936051 Pure Evil
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You guys just don't seem to understand how all these new refugees are going to produce a new unparalleled economic boom.

Just like Krugman's broken window theory, a broken border will usher in a new century of economic growth and unparalleled higher living standards.

Does anyone know how to sing "Moving On Up" in Spanish with a Macarena beat?

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