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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:46 | 4941422 TeamDepends
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:55 | 4941441 Hugh G Rection
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This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:58 | 4941455 TeamDepends
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Exactly.  Either you have a spine, or you enjoy/tolerate the kool-aid.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:04 | 4941487 pods
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Is that Bebe?


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:09 | 4941499 NemoDeNovo
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Way to skinny to be BeBe, besides pretty sure he would never 'soil' his chosen hands in such a heathen manner.  He's gots people to handle that sort of thing.  Just my 2c 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:14 | 4941518 TheFourthStooge-ing
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If it were PePe, he'd be carrying bomb grade uranium out of the country.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:21 | 4941911 MiguelitoRaton
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Fundamentally changing America['s borders]

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:50 | 4942194 BC6
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Stay away from nail guns Ramirez!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:05 | 4941491 NemoDeNovo
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Even those of us that have a Spine and are FED the F%(# up, are caught in a holding pattern 'until' this shit #Collapses and the sheeple stampede begins.  Until then sit back, relax, train, learn, and wait for the Grande Finale to begin.......


De Opressor Liber 

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:09 | 4942230 jeff montanye
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even as an obama hater imo it takes some cojones to claim the scary hadji with the nuclear device chasing the 'murcans occurred after obama.

whatever.  turns out the weather is too hot for the economy.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 05:49 | 4942494 Pinche Caballero
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"until then sit back, relax, train, learn, and wait for the Grande Finale to begin..."

Been at it for years now.

Cross training?

Nous Defions

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:58 | 4941460 chumbawamba
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BTW, in case you've never been San Diego way, the sign on the left is a real sign you will see on I5 down there on the way to Mexico.  I'm guess as outlandish as those signs seemed 20 years ago, the one on the right probably won't be too far off from reality any day here now.

After all, it is a road sign, telling us what to watch out for dead ahead.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:04 | 4941485 Rainman
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In Idaho, both signs would be riddled with bullet holes.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:20 | 4941538 chumbawamba
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:24 | 4941547 New_Meat
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nyet tovarich, just bad groups. - Ned

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:54 | 4941631 chumbawamba
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:49 | 4941791 TheReplacement
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Racist against yellow signs?  If they don't want yellow signs shot up then don't put them up in the first place.  Sheesh.  Haven't you ever been to Arkansas?  They shoot up every sign there is, no matter the color.  It's a total massacre and nobody says anything for the poor victims.

Haha.  You mean illegal immigrants?  Well, they are unlawful invaders no matter the race.  Invaders should be repelled and expelled.

No?  You mean Ahmed?  He is also an illegal immigrant bent on attacking the people of this country.  A violent and dangerous unlawful invader.  Such should be driven off or killed.

Try to find a sign representing someone who is here legally and see if it gets shot up, except in Arkansas of course.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:00 | 4942043 G.O.O.D
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Hell in Nevada they have signs saying "no shooting from freeway". Of course they are full of bullet holes too.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:37 | 4942155 conscious being
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So, you are saying the Land of the Free is not dead yet.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:22 | 4941916 Government need...
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Get your wacist whambulance the fuck off ZH!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:40 | 4941585 xavi1951
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NOT racist!  It's Achmed the Dead Terrorist before he bacame a celebrity.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:06 | 4942222 Borrow Owl
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Is it racist if it's true?

(And trust me.. it *is* true. I see it every day. Idaho residents seem to have a special hatred for any government message mounted on a stick.)

Note: spelling edit (for those anal-retentive enough to give a shit about such things.)

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 07:25 | 4942583 NoPension
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In retrospect, this amuses me; I've vacationed in Mexico a few times, Costa Rica, the Carribian Islands.
And in most of these places, shit- hola airports, more akin to cattle processing stations.
But THEY sure do SEEM to take their immigration and visa rules seriously. I mean, our borders are WIDE the fuck open, no passport'e required. Come on in, we're havin a party, and everybody's welcome. ( well I would bet, if there was a smidgen of a hint any of these new "refugees" would vote red team, they would slam that mutha fuckin border closed tighter than a crab's ass. And that's watertight, for those who don't know)
But anyhow, wouldn't one think it would be the other way around. Off the plane, into a taxi, and start spending money on drinks with umbrellas.
I mean, what the hell are they checking for? Who wants to " sneak in " to some of these ratholes? And they are. Don't wander too far from the beach.
I was in Saint Maarten . I love that place, by the way. Wouldn't want to live there. Driving around, trying to "experience" the island. Made a turn and ended up in a place that just didn't look to swell, by any standard. A huge dude, with dread locks, saw my and said, real cool, " hey maan, yo don't wont to be here, turn around and go that way" I thanked him a got the hell down the road.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 09:34 | 4942945 ajax
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@NoPension: "I went to the place where every white face is an invitation to robbery"

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:59 | 4941465 disabledvet
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"What kind of bomb was it?"


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:42 | 4941763 TheReplacement
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I want a big juicy steak.  I know it's not real but mmmm.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:48 | 4941429 Spungo
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Retarded. Modern bombs use electronic fuses.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:57 | 4941456 Sathington Willougby
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Retarded.  Modern terrorists use government.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:12 | 4941512 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Retarded. The second sign should be a whole herd of stampeding children with a cloud of lice above them, hopping from head to head.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:51 | 4941796 TheReplacement
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Not retarded but the last sign should show the idiots and internal enemies who are instigating this invasion and humanitarian crisis.  They are the real danger, not the illegals.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:11 | 4942074 sylviasays
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"Not retarded but the last sign should show the idiots and internal enemies who are instigating this invasion and humanitarian crisis.  They are the real danger, not the illegals."

The problem is, thousands of them are infected with disease, and this is not Ellis Island c. 1914, where immigrants with diseases were quarantined or deported. Under Obama, the border is wide open, and all women and minors are being released and told to “report” to an immigration hearing in places as far away as Hartford, CT.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 07:29 | 4942590 NoPension
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Retarded; Modern governments use terrorists.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:00 | 4941474 mjcOH1
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Dude's supposed to be lighting his shoe.   Duh.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:10 | 4941502 Hugh G Rection
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Or his panties... So Chertoff can move those scanners and make a ton of shekels for his Chertoff Group cronies.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:47 | 4941785 Plato's Law
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You mean Israeli dual citizen Michael Chertoff?  The same Chertoff who, while he was US attorney, convicted US Congressman James Trafficant (R, OH) of corruption based on shaky evidence at best...after Trafficant called out Israel for its criminal and immoral activities toward the US?  The same Chertoff who, after he convicted Trafficant, Bush rewarded by appointing him the first Chief of Homeland Security, after Chertoff's fellow Chabad Lubavitch crew ordered their slave Bush to reward Chertoff?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:38 | 4941977 FeralSerf
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Kind of makes one think of the fox guarding the hen house, eh?

With people like that "protecting" us . . .

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:50 | 4941431 knukles
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Hah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
So, Islamic children are now immigrants, not terrorists?

Your Cloward-Piven Tax Dollars at Work

Thaz razist, the raghead's only got flip flops on...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:48 | 4941432 Me.Grimlock
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:56 | 4941449 Colonel Klink
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May as well have Obama holding Hadji's hand while running with the bomb.  Same thing in reality.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:01 | 4941477 disabledvet
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"Von Manstein recommends letting the Russians attack."

And of course Hitler ignores this VERY risky but VERY clever plan.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:27 | 4941552 New_Meat
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3:1 or 1:3, or even better ...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:59 | 4941450 Sathington Willougby
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Here's how to fuck terrorism in the ass.

Tell them "who the fuck cares" and go about living your life.  Quit acting like a pack of pantywaists, learn to shoot for cunts sake.  You are also free to tell them about Jesus as well.  They clearly don't get that either.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 19:59 | 4941467 Anusocracy
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Government is terrorism.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:07 | 4941494 americanreality
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Jesus?  You're kidding right?  How stupid do you have to be to believe that crap?  Why don't you and fellow moron ""team depends" go get an education in biology and evolution.  We can't have brain dead retards spouting off nonsense on these boards. It drives away the intelligent posters when you blather on about that hocus-pocus bullshit.  

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:18 | 4941532 Oldwood
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I'm so confused...Are you saying we should hide behind big rocks while waiting for the big O to show up with the cavalry? Personally if general Barack O'Custer showed up I would be more inclined to run away from him than the rag heads. He is by far more dangerous. Those he doesn't kill he will get killed.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:19 | 4941535 chumbawamba
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If Jesus was here he would love you unconditionally and invite you out for a beer.  Shame on you.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:47 | 4941606 Sathington Willougby
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His teachings live on while empires continue to fail.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:48 | 4941607 Tall Tom
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No shit.


Jesus sat down and ate and drank with the tax collectors and hookers of his day. The Sanhedrin and Pharisees hated Him for that.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:23 | 4942107 sylviasays
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"Jesus sat down and ate and drank with the tax collectors and hookers of his day. The Sanhedrin and Pharisees hated Him for that."

What a concept. So if he were to come back today to the U.S. with it's wide open borders, he could sit down, eat and drink with tax collectors and hookers while waiting for his death from Islamic terrorists once they detonate their suicide bombs? No more long drawn-out deaths on a cross! 



Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:01 | 4941842 TheFourthStooge-ing
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If Jesus were here he'd soon find himself on a rendition flight to Guantanamo, where baptism is generally rather un(Geneva)conventional.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:39 | 4941578 TeamDepends
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You and me.  Right here right now.  You are calling us out by name.  BRING IT!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:45 | 4941600 TeamDepends
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:51 | 4941619 TeamDepends
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Let's go boy, are you all talk?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:01 | 4941650 Sathington Willougby
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See how the agitprops run and hide behind their god-complex.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 09:12 | 4942834 Stalkedbyhackers01
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Here I am the man whose life you all seem to want to see in ruins responding. Long post well sorry as we all know my story the Truman Show 2.0 is indeed a strange tale.

Are you talking about me the dude who's life you are all trying to ruin? I'm still confused. Why did you all begin this grand jihad against me in the first place? I know this site wasn't what started it, you people had no idea who I even was, I just don't understand why you got behind the hackers and supported them so much. Seeing as we share many of the same views and want more or less the same things. I may be different than many of you but to each his own I dont bother anyone or hurt anyone. Now people are trying to turn me into some arch mastermind evil anti government unibomber dude simply to ruin my life. I went about my business in an odd fashion but it was to me harmless fun. You monitor any chat in a game most blogs ect people say and do way worse things, I only have the spot light on me because of the unique set of events and the fact people want to see me suffer for their own enjoyment.

I know I lost my job most likely due to this ongoing saga as well hence why I went to the FBI, having been homeless I sure as hell didn't want to go back to the street so I was fearful of that and felt I had no other choice. At the end of the day I simply want peace and to live my life not being botherered and not bothering anyone. The people trying to ruin my life were waging a war against me I never wanted to fight, I've been through enough wars so I chose not to fight this one. I guess I should have because when one side wages a war and the other side doesn't want to the outcome is usually the same. I thought being the naive idealist that I am people would eventually realize ok we messed with this dude long enough we had our fun lets move on to new fun but I was of course wrong. I know I pissed this community off and it's a shame because I enjoy the site and have learned a lot from members of this community and if this nonsense didn't happen maybe we could have been friends or at least worthy sparing partners in the realm of ideas. I had no idea messing around like I was and yes that is what it was messing around you people know who I am at this point so lets be serious kittens are more dangerous. Also the immense stress I was under due to this situation (who wants to be utterly humiliated publically) and then have legions of people out for your head on a pike for what? I was just like all of you commenting on blogs harmlessly. I was no activist or revolutionary I was messing around. By the way was there really a camera? Do you really have footage of me whanking off? Why I was angry at the site is why are you trying to cover for some of these people. Their motive is simple to fuck with someone just for fun, there is no noble ideal or cause behind it. To simply fuck with another person for the sheer sport of it is sickening, it's in the same realm of torturing animals or mindless slaughter. Then I guess the grand strategy behind the war was to make me as many enemies as possible by taking things out of context or not showing the whole story.


You all have to admit I was very tolerant and stuck by the code of not getting anyone involved I figured ok neither side are saints I have my torrents and streaming they have their hacking the so called Moscow rules I followed. When my job loss most likely happened because of someone sending data about this drama to my employer or one on one maybe someone was contacted via social media or chat, I thought ok the Moscow rules were broken. The reason I didn't bother to join the site and try to talk to you directly is I felt at that point some of you were a part of the people tormenting me so it wasn't because I feel somehow superior to anyone, many of you are very successful people the exact opposite is true, as I said I am a simple peasant I never pretended to be anything else. I figured ok at this point in time due to everything I'm never going to be able to escape this I am now an internet celeb in a bad way and I now have some people's interest I didn't like this fact but it was a reality I had to live with. So I decided to continue my fun yes that is what it was you can take anything out of context to make me look like whatever you want. It seems other people had a deeper agenda, and a bigger game was afoot. The controled demolition approach if knucks comment refering to me as oxy moron was true.

Now why would I share so much personal info openly? I figured hell with it at this point I'll be 100% honest about some stuff. The whole sociopath spiel was just that a joke since I knew I had an audience so yes I have many contradictory comments within my rants. I also got drunk or stoned inbetween and well you know how that goes ever make an ass out of yourself when you drank a few too many? Well when you drink every day to the point of that it stands to reason I will make an ass out of myself  more often than not or say some dumb shit. I ask anyone here though if the situations were reversed and you had people all over the world some of whom are people it's best not to make enemies out of how would you react and deal with the overwhelming stress and paranoia that comes with that? I'm a broke dude with 300$ and I'm against god knows what I was  terrified and still am.

I reacted irrationally at times due to overwhelming fear I have and still don't know what I got myself involved in. This sense of overwhelming dread since August I've had to live with and try to go about my day. At this point I have made so many enemies and even enemies out of people I would rather call friends. I guess that was part of the strategt turn everyone against me and due to everyone being against me the likelihood of something bad happening to me increases. I just wanted to be like you guys comment harmlessly on blogs and discuss ideas with people who share a similar interest and the next thing you know boom. Was it a troll or did you guys really report me to DHS and try spinning me off as some crazed nut case extremist? As I said I have very dark humor and satire excuse me for having a very dark life. The fight club was dark satire and humor if I am not correct. I never asked for my comments I posted via yahoo and google search or my notebook comments to be reposted a third party did that just like

I never asked for if there is video footage of me to be posted anywhere if I wasn't being paranoid and that wasn't a troll. The problem with my situation is due to the bizare nature of it I don't know what's a troll and what's fact. I don't want any of this I never did. I just adapted to a horrible reality as best I could. I became a marked man with a target on his back the day this shit went down back in late August of last year. I'd rather be friends and discuss history than be enemies even after all of this. I never wanted to make this community an enemy of mine since I've enjoyed the site. I really don't have any idea what was set in motion I expect many of you and the people who started the original hack and the others that then joined in want it to end very badly for me. If some of the enemies I've made are who I think they are I am going to be crushed utterly and without mercy and that thought keeps me up at night and has caused me to drink that much more heavily. Nothing I said or did hasn't been said or done 1000s of times torrents and streaming hell people link their facebook profiles to these sites and most everyone here does it or knows people who does. 

I figured since I'll never be able to escape this I'll take it as an opprotunity to share my thoughts and feelings and have some fun since being Truman Burbank is such an insane situation to be in the first place. Can one of you honestly tell me and I'll follow the Moscow rules regarding this I give you my word, unlike the people trying to ruin my life I don't set clever traps for people, what was behind all of this, was there really a camera or was that a troll, and how deep the rabbit hole really goes? I've lived with this situation for almost a year now and are you now intent on trying to destroy my life? You may see justification for it since I guess some of you are pissed for whatever reason, but the original intent behind it was to mess with someone for fun and for laughs, similar to how people torture kittens. I'm not calling anyone out I was trying to present my side of the story if what was said is true and you people now are trying to present me as an arch terrorist mastermind or a whacked out crazy dangerous guy to the DHS. On the off chance they might be monitoring something if that is the case I gave an honest response. Since I have no idea what is fact and what is fiction regarding this insane situation I just assume everything is fact until proven otherwise.



Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:56 | 4941635 chumbawamba
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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:45 | 4941599 xavi1951
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YOU just spouted off nonses on this board!  In the foxhole, there are NO athiests.  You live in fear every day but are too afraid to admit it.  What if there really is a god?  Hope you like BBQ...........

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:34 | 4942272 Borrow Owl
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" In the foxhole, there are NO athiests"

A popular fallacy.. but a fallacy nonetheless.


Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:35 | 4942273 bunzbunzbunz
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"In the foxhole, there are NO athiests." Bullshit. Go do some research twat. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:51 | 4941618 Sathington Willougby
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Jesus demonstrated to animals how to be men.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:28 | 4942122 stacking12321
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Yeah, so did Stalin.
What's your point?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:16 | 4941685 Tall Tom
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So you reject the Physics of Roger Penrose? Man you must be bright so as to do that.


See the UNiverse was either a Chance Accident or was a Designed Event.


According to Penrose, the odds against such an [Chance] occurrence were on the order of 1010123 to 1.


Thus the odds for a Chance occurrence are on the order of 1 to 1010123 .


That fraction is so small that the probability is as close to ZERO as it can get. If you had any understanding of probability then you know that the probability of ZERO means IMPOSSIBILITY.


If the Universe was not a "Chance Happenstance" then it was DESIGNED. Thus one must infer a Designer, the Grand Architect, Almighty God.


If you want to go into the bullshit that there may be "Infinite Universes" then you have overstepped the boundaries into Metaphysics.


There is currently NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE for the existence of Infinte Universes. As a PHYSICIST I was taught to understand that EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE was to be valued. Infinity, to a Physicist, is abysmal. It designates that we lack understanding. For instance we cannot understand what happens betond the event horizon of a Black Hole.


Now we can SPECULATE. But speculation is faith oriented as there is NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to back any of the claims. Speculation just smacks of Religion, supposedly that which you despise.


Now you can reject Roger Penrose if you desire. He was only Stephen Hawking's MENTOR and coauthored papers with him. He is probably the brightest of the Physicists of the late Twentieth Century.


Other scientists on this board know that I know the Mathematics about this. Some are atheists. Some are not. The atheists can bet on infinitesimals if they desire. I cannot care less.


So stop being an dishonest, arrogant ignorant prick. They are still here. They did not leave and I am always open to honest debate...with my peers.


But as for you let's go hunting. I want to introduce you to my God.


My address is 12223B Woodside Ave. Lakeside, CA USA. I will be looking forward to your visit.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:33 | 4942268 stacking12321
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haven't heard of penrose, don't care to.

either you're mis-characterizing what he said, or he is talking rubbish.

what i have heard of, however, is probability.

it is defined as the expected frequency of an event.

how do you determine expected frequency?

in the event of rolling a die, you can roll it over and over again, and with a large enough sample size, you can determine a particular outcome (e.g., a 3 will be rolled 1 out of 6 times)

in the event of the existence of the universe, the probability is 1 out of 1, or 100%.

there was only 1 chance for the universe to be formed, and it got formed, end of story. there is no re-do.

anyone who can't understand this simple fact is talking rubbish.


Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:46 | 4942285 bunzbunzbunz
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You have no fucking clue how statistics works. And your address is a shopping center you twat. Please go take a rudimentary biology class. Then go take a basic statistics class. Why did God design us with an appendix? Oh please, tell me, why do men have nipples? OH DEAR, HOW ALL DEM FRESH WATER FISH SURVIVE THE FLOOD?!@# How did the the microbes journey to dear Noah's boat? Where did the birds land when they needed to rest? Why do people have different skin colors? Why do people have different hair? I'm really confused since our genetics dont seem to change so drastically between generations... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMm















Thu, 07/10/2014 - 01:00 | 4942304 Borrow Owl
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"If you want to go into the bullshit that there may be "Infinite Universes" then you have overstepped the boundaries into Metaphysics."

Maybe...maybe not. Things start to get really, really weird when you begin to examine them at the quantum level.

"There is currently NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE for the existence of Infinte (sic) Universes"

Oddly enough, the same can be said for the existence of an all-knowing, omnipotent being who magically *poofed* everything into existance.

I, personally, will await further advancements in the general knowledge base before passing final judgement.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:47 | 4941746 Killtruck
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I tried to log in, forgot my password, reset my password, logged in - JUST so I could downvote your ignorant drivel.

"Everything in nature is the result of fixed laws." - Charles Darwin

"If the universe contains mass, and the equations of general relativity accurately describe the actions of bodies within that universe, then the universe has a beginning that includes the beginning of both space and time." - Hawking/Penrose

True intelligence exists in those who admit they know nothing. The theory of Evolution explains nothing. Sounds good on paper. Explains nothing.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:39 | 4942278 stacking12321
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"I tried to log in, forgot my password, reset my password, logged in - JUST so I could downvote your ignorant drivel."

spare us your life history, lady pennington, and save it for your book club over crumpets and tea, i'm sure they will be enthralled!

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 08:14 | 4942698 Killtruck
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Good one.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:02 | 4941846 Zog the Bastiat
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I don't normally see someone be quite so sensitive about the mere mention of a name.


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:19 | 4941900 TheReplacement
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Look at it this way if you are so intellectual - true believers (to believe is to act accordingly) in Christ who are able to read and comprehend the New Testament are responsible for a very tiny proportion of crimes, violent or otherwise.

Contrast that to those who do not truly believe or are ignorant of the truth of Christ's teachings (actions only reflect self interest or hate, hence they do not truly believe or understand).  They have murdered millions. 

Contrast that with other religions like Islam that teach an equivalent of Old Testament beliefs with Viking type behavior.

Contrast that with the 100 million or so murdered over the past century by atheists.

Any thinking person could not fail to see that of the choices, real Christianity is the only viable choice for a peaceful world.  Such a person would also realize that it litterally cannot be imposed so it is a conundrum.  That is usually where one of the other faiths or false-faiths comes in and starts massacring people.

Say hi to Stalin and Mao for me o' learned one.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:49 | 4942287 bunzbunzbunz
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Are you trolling, or have you never looked into the statistics of criminals. Athiets represent the most educated and least criminal class in the U.S. I don't know about about other countries, But that is enough to dispute your sad little premise.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 08:19 | 4942709 Killtruck
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Stalin. Hitler. Mao. Pol Pot.

Define "criminal".

If you believe in evil, then you believe in good. If you believe in good, then you believe in a moral law that differentiates the two. Where does that law come from? Does it evolve from a primordial soup? Did a spaceship bring it to earth with the spores? Tell me, Mister Science.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:49 | 4942013 Greater Fool Theory
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There are only two possibilities.  We are either here by chance or here by design.  If we're here by chance, then the complexity of our biology can not be explained by natural selection because of the insufficient time interval from the big bang until today.

Darwin had a great theory for the origins of life.  But remember, in his time, science did not know about DNA.  Now that we've looked deeper, we see that life is far more complex than he could have imagined.  

You tell us morons (if my faith makes me a moron, I wear the label happily) to go get an education in biology and evolution.  Actually, the more educated we become, the more complexity we find.  The cell for example, is irreducably complex.  All of its component parts must be present at all times or it can not live.  So how did these component parts come into existence?  Ask a genetic biologist to explain how these parts evolved.  You'll be surprised that the answer isn't as settled as you think.

Ah, but this leads to the other possibility... that we're here by design.  And if we're here by design, there must be a Designer.  And this idea is so horrifying to some that they'll hang onto any alternative, no matter how improbable.  This explains the vitriolic nature of your post.  If you shout it loud enough, does it drown out the doubts?

You seem troubled.  I hope you find peace.  Jesus would welcome you...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:25 | 4942116 MachoMan
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So, the theory of evolution can't explain something, therefore we're designed?  OK...

If we're designed, then clearly the designer sent his son to die on a cross for our sins?  OK...

And this idea is so horrifying to some that they'll hang onto any alternative, no matter how improbable.

Actually, this is a rarity in the human species.  We're hard wired to desperately seek a higher power...  it provides us comfort among other things (regardless of the truth of the matter asserted; not that the truth ever gets in the way of anything).  This is also why it's so difficult for political change to occur, given we're desperate to believe someone else is in charge and actually taking care of things.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 07:41 | 4942627 NoPension
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Just curious . Is global Climate or religion?
See I'm old enough to remember being told I would definitely, without a doubt , be an ice cube by now. And egads, with no oil to heat my dumb ass.
I sure do see some elements of religion with science based fact.

Mr. Reality, it's just a little rude to humiliate folks who have raised from birth to believe certain things. For example, I bet you think that green paper in your pocket is money. And when asked to value your possessions, use that paper fantasy as a unit of account. Is that " your fault"?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 10:55 | 4943260 PrintemDano
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Only a fool would believe in "evolution". Period.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:18 | 4941534 chumbawamba
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That's just far too logical, sir.


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:05 | 4941489 Dr. Engali
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I'm more concerned about Zero having access to the launch button than I am of some crazed 'terrorist' (let's face it we all fit that bill in .gov's eyes) with a towel on his head.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:10 | 4941505 Oldwood
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Obama would never do something he had to take personal responsibility for. His actions are those relegated to his minions. Bureaucrats, lined up, to go forth and destroy with his message if not his word.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:16 | 4941887 Buckaroo Banzai
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"He has erected a multitude of new offices by a self-assumed power, & sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people & eat out their substance."

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:11 | 4941509 NotApplicable
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No worries. Puppets can't act on their own, Doc.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:49 | 4941614 Savyindallas
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That's my worry   -the puppet's owners are the psychos with bomb shelters and private islands. They are the one's who would start nucelar war.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:20 | 4941905 TheReplacement
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You are speaking in redundancies... I do not understand comparing one thing to itself.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:05 | 4941492 tlnzz
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Not enough roadkill on the border. Just sayen

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:28 | 4941932 TheReplacement
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You need to remember something.  Those poor illegal immigrants are not the enemy here.  Perhaps we cannot accept them or help them but they are not our adversaries.

Who is it that made it attractive to them to come here and take advantage of our systems of welfare and dependency?  Who has labored long and hard to reward that bad behavior?  Who is it that has refused to block them or send them back in any meaningful way? 

I think you will find the same bands of criminals and traitors are behind other anti-American acts such as indebting generations to come for false treasures today, taking from the non-wealthy to bailout the uber rich, creating a false red-blue paradigm as a charade to cover authoritarianism, murder of innocents around the globe for power and wealth, and a tremendously long list of other works of evil.

Remember who the true enemy is here.  It is not the poor of whom advantage is being taken.  It is those who take advantage of them to hold them, and no doubt soon us as well, in perpetual servitude and poverty.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:09 | 4941501 Iriestx
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The mighty UN has ordered US citizens to no longer call them 'illegal immigrants.'  We're now required by the all powerful UN to call them 'refugees.'


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:12 | 4941513 Oldwood
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The UN is UNAmerican.

Nations and states are all so yesterday. We are just one big happy family now and what daddy says, goes.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:27 | 4941554 Conax
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The UN can GTFO, too.  We don't need that nest of communists here anymore than those lousy illegal aliens.  They ought to shut their pieholes, this is an American issue.

Get em outa here.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:30 | 4941566 New_Meat
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MSM == "migrants"

'cept they will never un-migrant

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:26 | 4941709 IndianaJohn
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Actually, they are mooches. They are able to contribute an empty hand, empty gut, and disease to our country.

Told to me by a wise old Swede; "good people stay home." 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:44 | 4941993 TheReplacement
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Elect me President and the UN will no longer recieve diplomatic immunity nor funding from the US.  UN troops will not be allowed within our borders.  UN financial institutions will be fully audited or fully expelled from US soil, business, and banking.  We will also require them to pay ALL of their parking tickets with interest.  That alone should keep NYC in the black for the forseeable future.

Also, the F-35 and F-22 will be cancelled outright.  We can field a force of over 50,000 armed drones and all of the available pilots for for decades to come with the savings.  Drones will not be used outside of a five mile strip along our threatened borders (currently southern) and they will only be used against foreign advesaries, never American citizens in the US.  Yes I mean we'd use them to interdict and kill Mexican drug runners and gangs.

Audit and end the Fed, shutdown the IRS, restore the FBI as THE domestic crime fighting unit and abolish the rest, cut the NSA to 10% of it's true budget, stop interfering in Syria, Ukraine, Africa, and elsewhere, eliminate money in welfare and return to gov't issued clothing and rations, simplify the law and regs so that the common man can read and understand all of them in a reasonable amount of time (a day?), implement said rule of law and put a whole lot of people in jail who were formerly in the USG, execute those whose crimes warrant death, reform the prison system, implement a system of reparations for crimes, give all federal land that is not housing a federal institution or national park back to the states, kill ExIm, tell the truth, fire liars, and generally clean house as best as possible.

I say this not because I want the job.  I say this because I fear what will happen to my country if these changes are not made.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:26 | 4941539 tlnzz
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 By the numbers:

WHY is the USA BANKRUPT? Read this

We have been hammered with the propaganda that it was the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.


$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare

To illegal aliens each year by state governments.




$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food

Assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.Verify At:  



$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens

Verify at:  < 



$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify At: 



$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
Education for the American-born
Children of illegal aliens, known as
Anchor babies.

Verify At  

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$3Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:  < 



30% of all Federal Prison Inmates are illegal aliens.




$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
Illegal aliens for Welfare & social
Services by the American taxpayers.

Verify At: 



$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal Aliens.

Verify At: 



In 2006, illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their Countries of origin.

Verify At:.


http://www/  <http://www/ > / < 



The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:

NearlyOne million sex crimes committed
By Illegal Immigrants In The United States .

Verify At:








I hope the following 11reasons
are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the readers gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:36 | 4941573 Westcoastliberal
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I feel your pain and think they should be sent back home. But let's be real; the Pentagon couldn't account for $2.3 TRILLION (not Billion) according to Rumsfeld on 9/10/01. What you're citing is chickenfeed in comparison.  None of it is right and I agree we need to do something about it.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:44 | 4941593 Oldwood
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And what of the costs in violence and dollars that black Americans contribute?

We just can't go down this hateful road. God only knows where it leads.

Or do we?

What we know is that any defense against this is, or will soon be, a hate crime. The social evolution/revolution will make those who were once believed to be the law abiding into the criminals. Watch as leadership roles in every government entity are being taken over by minorities, not just of race but sexual orientation, and simple cultural diversity. 

We can respect other people, their religions, their ideologies, their race or sexual orientation, without embracing them, implementing them or otherwise empowering them.

When we choose to ignore fact, absolute statistical data, in favor of political correctness, we are committing suicide, as sure as playing Russian roulette.

We had better get this thing figured out before it is too late. The inability to discern right from wrong will be our end.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:20 | 4941694 IndianaJohn
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Any White streetkid can tell you; all darks of all shades stripes and spots, are wanting to get over on you, White Boy. So quit fugurin' and start defending yourself. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:47 | 4941608 baldski
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Tinzz: You are so full of bullshit! I am sure all your sources have been verified by the REICHWING ELITE! like Sara WordSalad Palin, FlushRush, Slant head Hannity, Limp dick Levin, Obnoxious O'Reilly, Lesbian Laura Ingraham, Diesel Dyke Coulter, and CNN! How about cutting the ridiculous 1 trillion Military budget first, or will you lose your fucking flag and wither away!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:59 | 4941640 Oldwood
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How about...military spending is the one thing our constitution actually empowers government to spend money on. While it is bloated and used for misdeeds in many cases, if we are talking money and expenditures, lets talk law...unless the constitution is only valid for what you it is for Obama.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:43 | 4942282 jeff montanye
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what of regulating commerce with the indian tribes and the establishment of post roads? 

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;


To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;


To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;


To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;


To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;


To establish Post Offices and post Roads;


To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;


To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;


To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;


To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;


To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;


To provide and maintain a Navy;


To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;


To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;


To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And


To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 07:47 | 4942647 Oldwood
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And where is their power enumerated to redistribute income based on someone's definition of fairness or compassion?

There is no doubt that our government has a lot of power and a fair amount of discretion, but entitlements? I don't think so.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 09:53 | 4943015 zaphod42
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If it is necessary for the General Welfare, I think do think so.  When a few people threaten to destroy the economy by stealing the wages of the workers and take it for themselves, that is destructive to the economy.  In that case, yes, a progressive tax can and should be used to support those whose wherewithal was taken by the 1%, either by outsourcing and paying foreign nationals (in foreign countries), or by depressing wages by widespread layoffs.

Further, since a healthy workforce is needed, we also need to have a national health care system in place.  The benefits to the general welfare cannot be overstated.


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:14 | 4941676 IndianaJohn
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baldski, -- so please shelter a dozen of them third world orcs in your attic. At your own expense too.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:15 | 4941682 stopthejunk1
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Every single link that I clicked on in your post is a 404 - page not found.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:00 | 4941840 Blood Spattered...
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You're bitching about $380B when we spend several trillions on illegal wars?

Come on mang...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:34 | 4942148 sylviasays
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"You're bitching about $380B when we spend several trillions on illegal wars?"


  • 45 percent, or almost half of all spending ,went toward paying for Social Security and health care entitlements (primarily Medicare and Medicaid). In 2002, that was only 25 percent.
  • Social Security is the largest federal spending program and has held this position since surpassing defense in 1993.
  • Medicare is one of the largest and fastest-growing programs in the entire federal budget.
Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:32 | 4942264 jeff montanye
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well, possibly medicare and social security kill fewer people in the short and the very long run.

that is something.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:26 | 4942254 joego1
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For another $38 billion Oblamo will get this mess cleaned up.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 09:39 | 4942966 zaphod42
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If you really are concerned, I mean really and truly worried about this (as I am), do not hire illegals to mow your lawn, sit your babies, clean your house, or pick your crops.  It is the growers and manufacturers who hire them that can be targeted to have some real impact.

Of course, if you are Pete Peterson, you want that influx of workers to keep Social Security and Medicare solvent beyont 2020.  So, you and your buds look the other way when they see houses being assembled (they are no longer really built, in the true sense of the word) by what look to be illegal workers (from the fact that they do not speak a word of English, though one requirement of citizenship, as far as I know, is to be able to read and speak English well enough to take and pass the test).  Or when their crony industrialists hire illegals.  And, because the Reps and Dems who glean contributions from these folks also control prosecutors and judges, the enablers are seldom prosecuted or convicted, and if they are they are hit with meaningless fines and no jail time.  After all, "tough on crime" does not include rich white dudes. 

And of course, there are plenty of real patriots lined up to pick those tomatoes!  LOL.  The other part of the equation is that there are FEW US born citizens willing to do the backbreaking work the imigrants are doing... and those that are willing to do so cannot be exploited because they understand what is going on, so again the big Ag corporations, the big Military Industrial corporations, and the upper income who can afford domestic help are creating the problem. and I do not see any outcry.

Why not go on a scree about them?  


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:23 | 4941545 22winmag
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Don't shoot until you see the blue of their helmets.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:30 | 4941563 Conax
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Say, do you have any idea where I can order some of your namesakes?

I can't find them any place..

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:14 | 4941603 Conax
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Thanks, Doc!  Yudaman!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:40 | 4941584 New_Meat
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If she is shooting at blue-hatz, then she is shooting at true non-combattantz, more fool they but she is truly an ass-face.

don't cha' know.

- Ned

{and maybe she doesn't want u to hert u-sef?}

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:27 | 4941712 22winmag
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My local Walmart has a huge stack of CCI for $13.50 at the moment, but Super-X for $11 is the real score I look for.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:58 | 4942215 Conax
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Thanks for the heads up!

I have always bought Winchesters and CCIs, too.  Either/Or, they're both dependable.

I will check my local wallyworld again, but for the last 6 months they've had zip.  Lots of rednecks hereabouts, they swoop in quick.


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:29 | 4941561 Xanadu_doo
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At least some people are paying attention to this utter bull$h!t (even if they're cartoonists).

But maybe cartoons will help the plebes understand what's aboput to happen more than fake propoganda news.

Though probably not...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:40 | 4941581 Baby Eating Dingo22
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I don't get it

Before Obama, beware of running family?



Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:42 | 4941590 New_Meat
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babe, u nevva bin on the I5 abord Pendleton?  Truly beware!!!  Almost as bad as runnin' into Moose in New England. - Ned

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 20:53 | 4941624 xavi1951
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American marine mistakenly drives into Mexico, tells the security he has a firearm, is beaten and jailed.  Mexican marines fly over U.S. and shoot at border agents, .... so sorry!  That's okay, we understand....

Thousands of Southerners (Mexico and below) flood over our borders, illegally and intentionally and we reward them with free food, housing, and medical care.  So.... is something wrong here?  Not according to the President.......

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:02 | 4941652 Oldwood
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What is it about international relations that escapes you? The Mexicans are doing exactly what our government wants them to do. If we can invade iraq, do you really think if Mexico is doing all that and the big O didn't like it, that we wouldn't be there in a heartbeat with tanks and drones? This is but a passion play and we are the paying audience.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:15 | 4941680 TuPhat
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That marine was an idiot.  You can't drive into mexico without knowing it.  There is a place to turn around if you're going the wrong way before you cross the border.  Maybe he has the excuse of being too drunk or stoned to drive but then he was still breaking the law.  He got what he deserved.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:22 | 4941702 booboo
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oooh, breaking the LAW was he? Silly prole, he should have claimed he was working for the Just us department and hauled ass.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:27 | 4941716 Oldwood
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He stopped at the border check point, told them what he had and that he just wanted to turn back and they arrested him. This is so much bullshit given the fact that we are supporting 90% of mexico now, and these fuckers do this shit. We all deserve probably worse than we get, but anyone, spend time in a mexican jail and come out telling us how it was exactly what they deserved.

We should send military in to get him. We need a good fucking war anyway and Mexico is as good a pick as it gets. We might as well annex the fuckers and get it over with, before they annex us. Probably cheaper in the long run.

Just tired of the whole fucking mess.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 08:05 | 4942683 NoPension
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I grew up in Baltiimore City. In the 60s and70s. We lived in a row house.
( not a townhouse, a row house)
Mom kept a clean as whistle place. I mean it was spic and span, and clean! I never knew different. I never really contemplated how some people , given the same opportunity for soap, could live like fucking animals. Scratch that. Animals know better.
Any how, next door was a house full off pigs. They were not people. People evolved. This was filth. Pigeons in the basement, dog shit on the floor that required a jackhammer. Roaches, of biblical quantities.
And my dad was no fucking nonsense. These people decided to spray one day, and roaches were in sheets from one end of the block to the other. I know there are those who doubt this, it was true. I thought Dad was going to kill these vermin. He ended up in jail that day, barged in the front door and drug the "man of the house" out to street, by his fucking throat . To the cheers of the neighborhood. He was bailed out. And when he went before the judge, took a mayonnaise jar, and filled it with roaches from outside this place. He sat that fucking jar on the Bench! And the judge threw the whole case out!
Now there was a guy with balls. A leader of men by default. Just did what needed to be done, with an unruly out of control neighbor.
We moved.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:52 | 4941802 Blood Spattered...
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When you refer to the United States of America, do you simply just say "'murrica!"?

Free food, housing and healthcare for illegal immigrants you say?  Turn off your fucking TV and read a book. 

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 08:09 | 4942690 Oldwood
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$3.7 billion for 50k people coming into our country isn't free. What is that, about $65k per person. I don't need TV for that metric.

You can go back to your Alinsky manual on societal evolution.

Just because you hate America and want to see it fundamentally change does not mean everyone else should, no matter how "enlightened" you see yourself. If you think becoming more "Mexican" is a step up, you need to lay down the books you have been reading.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:04 | 4941851 Zog the Bastiat
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I don't know where you've been but where I am, the Mexicans work harder than any of these lazy American Pokemoners.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 07:57 | 4942666 Oldwood
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Which is not cultural but necessary to their survival. That behavior will change quickly once they are exposed to the entitlement mentality that has been indoctrinated into our domestic population over the last fifty years. Even looking now, statistics show that a substantial number of new immigrants do not have jobs and are not looking. They have been promised and awarded benefits as the new underclass, entitled to the American dream unearned. Their illegal status was the thing that helped perpetrate their "hard working" image, and their legitimization will end it as quickly as a shot to the head.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:04 | 4941655 Thirtyseven
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Iran is not the enemy.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 21:31 | 4941726 Oldwood
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Otherwise. leave your front door open at night while you sleep from now on.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:28 | 4941931 Jack Kreuz
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The running arab is a Mossad agent.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:36 | 4941967 FeralSerf
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The Dimona symbol on the bomb gave him away, eh?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:18 | 4942239 jeff montanye
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not literally true.  however the handler of his employer, the enabler to his destroyer, is.

got to have the u.s. share the israeli experience to really solidify the alliance.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:09 | 4942075 Peter Pan
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The second image should have been of SWAT teams.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 23:48 | 4942184 Lord Koos
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It's all Obama's fault.  He's the one who messed up Iraq, right?

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 00:24 | 4942251 jeff montanye
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yes, yes he is.  when he drew that wretched map in 1916.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 08:02 | 4942676 Oldwood
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Nah, he didn't create it. As a consummate politician, he is simply utilizing it...a crisis too good to waste...again. Like any good dictator, he is willing to compromise with anyone, as long as they yield to his every whim. Anything less is inaction, obstruction, and a racist indifference for non-white people of the world.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 07:05 | 4942543 Satan
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Kidnapping is a serious crime.

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