China President Warns Conflict With America Would Be "Global Disaster"

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File this one in the "understatements" category.

While recent US relations with Russia plumbed lows unseen since the Cold War, at the same time "succeeding" in cementing relations between Russia and China, the so-called Eurasian, anti-Petrodollar axis, and leading to an accelerated groundbreaking natgas deal between Kremlin and Beijing, at least the department of state had managed to not completely alienate China. Which maybe why China just issued a rather out of place tongue-in-cheek warning overnight, when China’s President Xi Jinping called for greater military communication with the U.S., saying as he opened high-level talks between the two countries that any conflict would be a global disaster.

As Bloomberg reported, China needs a stable environment “more than ever,” and it’s inevitable that the two sides will have some disputes, Xi said at the Diaoyutai guest house before the U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue in Beijing.

And here is where things got a little heated: "A conflict between China and United States will definitely be a disaster for the two countries and the world,” Xi said. “As long as we uphold mutual respect, maintain strategic patience and remain unperturbed by individual incidents and comments, we’ll be able to keep relations on a firm footing despite ups and downs that may come our way.

In other words, if the US pushes the "individual incidents and comments" just a bit too far, then all bets are off.

China remains suspicious over President Obama’s intention to rebalance its military forces to Asia, seeing the move as emboldening countries with which it has territorial disputes. Under Xi, China has tested U.S. alliances in the region by pressing its claims to a large part of the South China Sea, riling Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines.

What he failed to address is that for all the surface pleasantries, US relations with China - aside from recent geopolitical incidents involving such US allies as Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam - have also neared lows not seen in years, especially considering the virtual boycott of US tech companies in the aftermath of the Snowden NSA revelations, not to mention the US escalation in the spying scandal, in which it charged three PLA members with hacking and spying (even as it was doing just that to its closest European ally, Germany).

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew arrived yesterday for the sixth round of the dialogue, this year aimed at rehabilitating relations strained by differences over cyber espionage and escalating maritime disputes between China and U.S. allies in the Asia Pacific. A year after U.S. President Barack Obama and China’s Xi declared their support for “a new model of major power relations,” the two countries face two days of negotiation over issues from climate change to global security.


“The United States and China will not always see eye-to-eye on every issue,” Obama said in a statement released as the talks got underway in Beijing. “That is to be expected for two nations with different histories and cultures.”

While that is expected, what is also expected when any superpower is in decline is that those ascendent countries which believe they can challenge a hegemon's economic, financial and military might, will rise up and make veiled threats that said hegemon should respect a status quo which benefits them if not so much the US. All the hegemon has in its arsenal at that point is threats of diplomatic retaliation which what it is actually doing is appeasing the challengers, as the US has done with Russian expansion in Crimea.

And as Great Britain knows too well, the path from appeasement to final loss of reserve currency status is a very short one.

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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:16 | 4939562 90's Child
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Nah fuck it we've all waited long enough.

Let's do this.

Roll the dice.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:19 | 4939576 NotApplicable
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It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:25 | 4939596 kliguy38
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ummm I think you boyz better check with your Masters first to see what your bankers have planned for you before you start spouting peacenik shit

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:28 | 4939610 NotApplicable
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There's nothing peaceful at all about this. It's just a well-disguised ultimatum that will ensure a future casus belli.

"I dun told you."

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:34 | 4939635 Headbanger
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Bingo!  This is a clear warning from China saying STFO (Stay the Fuck Out) of our part of the world round eyes!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:37 | 4939651 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Somebody said "FAIR WARNING!"

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:50 | 4939696 Save_America1st
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Lo Pan kicked ass.  Big Trouble In Little China is one of the classics.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:55 | 4939725 COSMOS
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May be global disaster but it doesnt stop the USA from seeking Conflicts, look at Ukraine and the Middle East

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:44 | 4940003 dontgoforit
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Barry Soetoro is the anti-Christ.  The great deceiver.  Teller of lies.  He will lead many astray and bring great tribulation.  Other than that, he's a great beer drinking buddy....

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:54 | 4940289 stoneworker
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Normally forbes writes a lot of propaganda articles that are not worth reading, but I think this may be one of the few that should be read by China watchers


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:55 | 4940293 Unknown User
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Yeah, but the Neocons don't comprende...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:47 | 4940510 FeralSerf
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You give Barry way too much credit. He really isn't capable of any of that, including "great beer drinking buddy". Next someone is going to accuse him of knowing how to golf.

Barry does make a suitable patsy for his owners. He will be sacrificed when the time comes.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:54 | 4940059 Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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It's all in the reflexes.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:20 | 4939845 Uncle Remus
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He say you about to screw pooch.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:09 | 4940115 jon dough
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Wouldn't that be "sclew pooch"?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:54 | 4940286 sleigher
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The second time in 2 days I have heard "round eyes" used in a derogatory manner.   Do they really call us round eyes?  That is so awesome if true.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:40 | 4939658 Pure Evil
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Nah, just high level meetings wrapping up the minute details on when and where the new proxie wars will be held.

Looks like your safe Australia. Uncle Sam will need a forward operating base so you'll pretty much be kept out of land invasions.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4939628 SMG
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Basically, the Oligarch's plan is US vs Russia/China in a "useless eater" killing WWIII.  Most likely while our Bankster Oligarchs hide in their bunkers, only to emerge and rollout their new global government.

I read about this plan a few years ago, and I didn't want to believe it.  However more and more you can see it coming. Sigh.  I really wish we would awake up and stop these evil people pulling the strings.

Here's more about the plan if you're interested:


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:57 | 4939743 Oldwood
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The west will lose. There is so much cynicism and dissention, that I seriously doubt that Americans would ever support the measures required to win a real full on war. Our press would rather be digging in to find how it could possibly all be Bush's fault. When push comes to shove, Americans will flog themselves thoroughly before lifting a hand in self defense. Hell, half the people would be standing in line waiting for the police to show up before defending themselves from a mugger, especially if it was a black man attacking, because god knows we would rather be dead that accused of being a racist. Would we ever be able to stoop to the racial slurs put upon the Japanese and Germans that were used to motivate the hate required to indiscriminately kill? The one thing that Iraq and Afghanistan have proven, if you don't fight to won't.

Welcome to the pacifist/collectivist new world, where even our own lives are not worth fighting for.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:00 | 4940308 schnydz
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he one thing that Iraq and Afghanistan have proven, if you don't fight to won't.

Don't forget Korean War and Vietnam. The pacifist/collectivist have been in controll all along. One good thing to happen is illegal immigration may actually reverse and flow into Mexico instead...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:53 | 4940525 FeralSerf
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Korea and Vietnam as well as Iraq and Afghanistan performed their functions. The ones that planned those operations became much richer and more powerful. A military "victory" was never the plan. The war dead and injured were just examples of collateral damage. The "good news" is no important Rockefellers, Morgans, Blankfeins or Rothschilds were injured.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 18:16 | 4941172 Fedaykinx
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 ...when the chips are down, when the pressure is on, every creature on the face of the earth is interested in one thing and one thing only.  its own survival.

Thu, 07/10/2014 - 08:24 | 4942727 thestarl
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True but I accept my own mortality as do most people here.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:55 | 4940064 dontgoforit
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That's a long read and I have many issues with the assumptives and the results.  Doesn't say much about submarines - they alone could destroy all of Russia.  In the end, I hope he's wrong.  We don't know that 'nuclear winter' would not insue, and if it did, for how long it would last.  If it were a 10-year prospect, the earth would be dead and surviving would be worse than getting killed in the first go-around.  MAD policy is still in effect, I believe.  Over-population could bring on the same end result.  Ever see a petri dish with a smear over-run by bacteria and what happens to the bacteria once the host is consumed.  Think earth 2050.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 15:01 | 4940552 FeralSerf
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The bacteria eventually reach a stable population. The same has been and will be true for the human population (and all other species as well) of Planet Earth. Currently the Earth's population is changing fairly rapidly due mostly to technological changes. Just like the number of bacteria in a sewer plant digester, this increase cannot continue.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:13 | 4939727 Kirk2NCC1701
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Just so we're clear:  China looks after China, and no one else.  Always has, always will.

They're happy to carve up the world and its resources with American round-eye.  But unlike Western Empires (Spain, Portugal, France, Belgium, Holland, England, US), they do not see the need to attack and colonize other countries.  Any claims to this effect are mere projections of Western mindsets onto the Chinese, for purposes of propaganda that's played mostly to the domestic (US) audience.

Translation: "The stage is set for the Final Roundup of earth's resources, with both countries laying claim to various countries, regions, etc.  They prefer to do this 'peacefully', i.e. via corporate wars, not cold or hot wars.  Neither side wants to upset this game with surprises or actions by uncontrolled players.  All else is smoke and mirrors, and part of the necessary Distractions."

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 22:48 | 4942008 samsara
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"Translation: "The stage is set for the Final Roundup of earth's resources, with both countries laying claim to various countries, regions, et"

With out enough left for any one of them.

Carnavors circling the shrinking water hole.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:30 | 4939603 Silver Shield
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The rise of the anti hegemon from 2010...
And how the Anglo American Empire will respond to its loss of dominance...
And where it will be the WORST places to be when the dollar collapses....

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:34 | 4939636 Da Yooper
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Time to thin  the herd

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:50 | 4940041 matrix2012
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Or Xi did mean the U.S. stop world policing China

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:46 | 4940245 Chewybunny
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China declares war on US, ends US outsourcing of labor. Labor returns to US and a sudden explosion of jobs become available. God I can only hope.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:20 | 4939568 Dr. Engali
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Maybe Zero should send the wookie back over to ruffle some more I meant to smooth things over.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:29 | 4939611 NoDebt
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Or Joe Biden.  He's a smooth operator.

Oh... better yet- John Kerry.  When things are looking grim and the chance of success is low, you send John Kerry.  He puts the final nail in the coffin and then nobody has to spend any more time wondering if things will work out well or not.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4939631 Dr. Engali
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Okay, that was pretty damn funny.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:55 | 4939724 Save_America1st
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yep...we better not piss off the Chinese.  They will halt all Cadillac exports to America!  It'll cause riots.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:57 | 4940075 dontgoforit
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Only in Detroit.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:21 | 4939579 buzzsaw99
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the chinese people love jinping. hopefully not barbequed in molasses.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:21 | 4939580 JustObserving
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A dying empire with 900 military bases in 130 countires, many wars now, infinite spying, and debt and unfunded liabilities of $1,260,000 per taxpayer is a global disaster in its own right.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:24 | 4939587 Dr. Engali
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When Rome collapsed all the soldiers on foreign soil were left to fend for themselves. Some of them in very hostile areas. I suspect we will probaly see the same.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:29 | 4939612 hoist the bs flag
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Or they will take whatever is left in the gas tank, come back over and unleash total war on CONUS...nah, probably not.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:00 | 4939753 COSMOS
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We need to cut back and strengthen our position where it matters.  Why waste so much money on Europe which has no resources.  We should focus on Australia and New Zealand and the rest of the Pacific as well as Canada and South America.  But most importantly the English speaking parts ie Canada and AU/NZ

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:54 | 4940058 CH1
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I am not part of "we."

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:58 | 4940080 dontgoforit
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Rome's soldiers were not nearly so well armed to deal with it.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:29 | 4939618 NotApplicable
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They'll bring them back to run the FEMA camps.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:34 | 4939638 Dr. Engali
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Why risk military rebellion when they have the loyal gropers in the TSA to do that task?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:39 | 4939656 JustObserving
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Besides, the police forces in America are being rapidly militarized.  Or as some call it, Israelification of the US police:

The Israelification of America’s security apparatus, recently unleashed in full force against the Occupy Wall Street Movement, has taken place at every level of law enforcement, and in areas that have yet to be exposed. The phenomenon has been documented in bits and pieces, through occasional news reports that typically highlight Israel’s national security prowess without examining the problematic nature of working with a country accused of grave human rights abuses. But it has never been the subject of a national discussion. And collaboration between American and Israeli cops is just the tip of the iceberg.

Having been schooled in Israeli tactics perfected during a 63 year experience of controlling, dispossessing, and occupying an indigenous population, local police forces have adapted them to monitor Muslim and immigrant neighborhoods in US cities. Meanwhile, former Israeli military officers have been hired to spearhead security operations at American airports and suburban shopping malls, leading to a wave of disturbing incidents of racial profiling, intimidation, and FBI interrogations of innocent, unsuspecting people. The New York Police Department’s disclosure that it deployed “counter-terror” measures against Occupy protesters encamped in downtown Manhattan’s Zuccotti Park raised serious questions about the extent to which Israeli-inspired tactics have been used to suppress the Occupy movement in general.

The process of Israelification began in the immediate wake of 9/11, when national panic led federal and municipal law enforcement officials to beseech Israeli security honchos for advice and training. America’s Israel lobby exploited the climate of hysteria, providing thousands of top cops with all-expenses paid trips to Israel and stateside training sessions with Israeli military and intelligence officials. By now, police chiefs of major American cities who have not been on junkets to Israel are the exception.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:43 | 4939986 TuPhat
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The Occupy movement was a Soros-USgovt. operation.  Are you saying they did it so the police could practice?  I don't get the point of your post.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4939625 CheapBastard
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Lets not ruffle their feathers. We still have over 13,000,000 vacant houses the NAR wants to sell them.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:25 | 4939878 MayIMommaDogFac...
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"It's a great time to buy!" NAR rep

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:58 | 4939652 Ghordius
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