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Why Tuition Keeps Rising (Spoiler Alert: Government Intervention)

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Submitted by Omid Malekan,

Imagine for a moment that you are the owner of a popular restaurant located on a street with many restaurants. You do your best to provide the best experience to your customers while staying ahead of the competition by keeping your prices down. You try to avoid spending too much on labor, and do as much of the work yourself as you can, often putting in long hours. Although there is a good wholesale market nearby, you drive an extra hour to another market just to get your ingredients a little cheaper.

One day a wealthy patron who is a big fan of your cooking announces a new idea. Because he wants as many people as possible to enjoy your food, he is going to pick up the tab for most of your customers. You can just go on doing what you always do, but when the check arrives for many tables, this wealthy patron will pay the tab. The next day, your waitress complains that there are too many tables and you should hire more help. What would you do?

Normally, you would try to find a way to avoid hiring another person as it would eat into what little profits you make. But now you realize there is another solution. You can just raise prices. Since most of your patrons are not paying for their meals, your place will still stay popular and you won’t have to worry about losing business to your competition. So why not hire another waitress? While you are at it, why not hire a manger so you don’t have to be there all time, and stop driving to the further market?. Whatever increase in costs you suffer you can make up for by raising prices more and more.

Now imagine all your competitors also have wealthy benefactors picking up the check for many of their customers. You can all raise prices constantly without losing any sleep – or business.

This scenario is effectively what America’s higher education financing system has turned into. There are many reasons why college tuition is rising faster than virtually anything else, from more applicants than ever to state budget cuts for public universities, but all of those factors are allowed to persist because often times the person getting the degree is not the person paying the tab – not for today anyway.

Presently over 60% of all undergraduate students receive some sort of Federal aid for their education, and the amount of money the government has shelled out for student loans is now over a trillion dollars, double what it was just 7 years ago. Like the hypothetical wealthy patron in the example above, the government doesn’t ask for much when it gives out the money – neither from the student nor the University.  If our wealthy patron had said “I will pick up the tab so long as you keep your low prices” then we would have a reason to keep prices down. But by fully removing the value of what customers get from the equation, all incentives point towards inflation.

One of the toughest questions to answer in the rising cost of education debate is exactly why Colleges and Universities are raising prices so fast. Yes, demand has gone up, but that doesn’t lead to price spikes unless supply is kept low. After all, as our society has grown richer, demand for all sorts of things from cars to eating out have also gone up, but their prices haven’t spiked because supply has grown as well. So why hasn’t supply of higher education kept up – as evidenced by collapsing acceptance rates?

Its not an issue of their product, because knowledge is infinitely scalable. Think of your typical undergrad 101 Rhetoric or Chemistry class. Its not hard to keep hiring more instructors and offering more sections. It would be one thing if it was hard to find more instructors, but thanks to our current PhD. glut, the opposite is true, and the market is oversupplied with people who would make qualified teachers. Putting all of this together, we observe that at a time when demand for higher education is higher than ever, and the supply of would-be educators is higher than ever,  Colleges are choosing to keep the number of spots available to students relatively low, and raising tuition prices instead. But why?

One good way of answering questions of rising prices is to ask “how can they get away with it?” Going back to our hypothetical restaurant, we can get away with keeping supply fixed and constantly raising prices because our customers are not paying for their meal, a third party is. If not for our benefactor, even in the midst of success we might choose not to increase prices. We might instead decide to open another location to offer more of the same food at the same price, or try to prepare the food faster so we serve more steaks per day. But as long as the person getting the product doesn’t care about the price because someone else is paying, why bother? That’s just more work and more stress for us. We are better off keeping supply fixed, raising prices and then spending that money on things that make our life easier, like more waitresses. While we are at it, why not also use some of the money from our inflated prices to pay ourselves a higher salary. After all, its not like our customers will feel the difference.

This is exactly what’s happening at America’s major colleges and universities. As shown by the chart below, which was put together by the American Association of University Professors, since the 1970s positions for non-faculty professionals have seen the highest growth for jobs at American Universities.

Meanwhile, University Presidents and other executives have been giving themselves big raises while leaving the professors and their assistants in the dust.

The peculiar places tuition money has been flowing to is further discussed in this fascinating paper by the Delta Cost Project.

We could debate all we want about how much a University should spend on professors, secretaries, sports facilities or free unlimited Nutella, but that would be a waste of our time, just as it would be for the patrons of a restaurant to debate how many waitresses there should be.

Imagine if suddenly our wealthy restaurant benefactor declares he’s going to stop paying for peoples meals. Given our now sky-high prices, our tables would be empty and given all these new expenses, like more waitresses and shopping at the closer market, we’d go out of business. To survive, we’d have no choice but to get leaner and enter the murky waters of business uncertainty, where every decision is complicated and viewed through the lens of “what can I get away with?”

As long as the majority of the cost of college education is not born directly by students but rather by Government loans and grants, our institutions of higher learning will not be forced to adapt and find innovative ways of delivering quality education to more students at a decent price. They will go on keeping supply low, tuition higher and expenses growing. If we care about our children and want them to stop taking on more and more debt to get a degree for a tougher and tougher job market we need to break the current cycle.

The kindest thing our government might do for our kids is to stop throwing money at inefficient Universities in their name, or at least demanding more from those institution in return for that money.  Imagine for a second if college loans were given to the school and not the student, and tied to metrics of success, like whether the student graduates and how good a job they land afterwords. Much like our restaurant, in such a world the school’s focus would then shift to keeping prices down while offering good value.


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Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:44 | 4939675 JustObserving
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But, but, but, the price of Volvos and French wine and cheese keeps rising.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:54 | 4939718 CH1
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Must keep the suckers grasping for those magic certificates.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:11 | 4939801 lordylord
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"Must keep the suckers grasping for those magic certificates."

Cut it out CH1 with the anti-college blanket statements.  There is value in many college degrees even at today's tuition.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:13 | 4939808 CH1
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That's my opinion, amigo. And based upon real experience.

Wanna learn something? Read a book!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:16 | 4939827 lordylord
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"That's my opinion, amigo. And based upon real experience."

Ok.  Based on my experience, if you choose a major that is in demand in the job market, work hard, take the hard classes, find internships YOU WILL FIND A JOB RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE.  One that puts you firmly in the middle class with opportunities to make 6 figures in short time.   Yes, 90% of college kids screw around, but why worry about them?  So stop your bitching.

And about reading a book.  Yes, that is great way to learn, but college offers much more than a book. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:22 | 4939856 CH1
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Experience: I've taught at just about every level, including a major university.

Yes, there are some good teachers in the engineering dept., but the whole operation is vile and insanely expensive. The only reason it stands is the magic certificate combined with Professional Regulation laws... laws that forcibly prevent people from working without the magic cert.

You can learn better and FAR cheaper by reading books and hiring the occasional tutor.

As for the "college experience"... please.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:23 | 4939870 lordylord
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Your response tells me that you have no teaching experience at any univeristy or any real world experience for that matter.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:25 | 4939882 CH1
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Your response tells me that you have no teaching experience at any univeristy or any real world experience for that matter.

LOL... I have some tax records that beg to differ.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:26 | 4939893 knukles
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Cloward-Piven ahoy!
Full Forward Ahead!
Damn the Republic, Sink the Fucker!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:32 | 4939927 lordylord
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Buddy, your arguments against formal higher education are specious at best.  Did higher ed chew you up and spit you out?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:41 | 4939971 CH1
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Wow, you really don't handle disagreement well.

Higher ed paid me very well, and I liked the people I worked with.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:25 | 4939881 lordylord
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A degree means that you have some minimum training/knowledge.  It makes you a safer hire than some guy who claimed to read a lot at the public library.  So save me.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:35 | 4939940 CH1
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LOL, never heard of a test, or a conversation?

The cert only matters because of conditioning and laws that are backed with pistols.

I think the entire "higher ed" system is manipulative and abusive, but go ahead and serve it if you want.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:37 | 4939960 lordylord
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A company is not required by law to only higher college graduates.  Where is the pistol? It just so happens that a good college graduate is well-prepared whereas a guy sitting in the library all day may be a crap shoot.   Stop being daft.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:47 | 4940013 CH1
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You're gonna go down swinging. Have fun.

A company is not required by law to only higher college graduates. 

Without the cert, you cannot work as an engineer (PE) or any number of other things. As in, "forbidden by law."

And go read some want ads - a huge % require a BS or BA minimum.

Where is the pistol?

All laws are an authorization of violence. Armed men stand behind every law.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:30 | 4939899 lordylord
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As for the college experience, I wasn't referring to sitting on the green or going to the frats.  I mean computer labs, chemistry labs, physics labs, private libraries, discussion among peers in a formal setting, mentor-ship from professors, research opportunities.  You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:38 | 4939958 CH1
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I mean computer labs, chemistry labs, physics labs, private libraries, discussion among peers in a formal setting, mentor-ship from professors, research opportunities.  You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about.

Labs are cool and friends are cool, but college didn't invent them.

And of course I don't sound like I know anything - I disagree with you!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:42 | 4939978 lordylord
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I like your answers.  They only deflect and don't directly rebut.  Good job.  This is a waste of time to argue with you any further.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:22 | 4939858 lordylord
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The hate on higher education is laughable at Zero.  Government should get out of the business of making student loans, but the comments on these boards are always anti-college.  Sounds like spite to me.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:38 | 4940217 Bendromeda Strain
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What's laughable, pal is that your beloved skin didn't confer any magical reading comprehension powerz upon you. The article in question is bashing the exponential rise in tuition, and seeking to pin the blame appropriately. The fact that you ended up butthurt and in the arms of your stuffed mascot only reinforces the point that recent grads misapprehend that they received value.   

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:26 | 4939895 TBT or not TBT
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Most engineering and physics material can still be taught using a chalk board mechanical pencils, and such.   In computer science, the computers have gotten enormously cheaper.  So why the fuck do prices for credit hours in such subjects keep heading skyward?    Because it is a great racket for the tenured, the unionized administrators, and Democrats.    All those faculty parking lots full of statist fuck bumper stickers, and all those western civilization hating courses, identity politics courses, global warmist save the seals courses, etc are your question answered.   The left cares deeply about BOTH programming the young AND making them dependent on government.  

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:35 | 4939941 rtalcott
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I agree...non-lab science and engineering should be relatively cheap...and even a LOT of lab work at the undergraduate level can be done does NOT take big bucks to learn fundamentals and that's why they are not stressed as much as they should be...experimentally look what Newton, Faraday etc. accomplished...same for the classic experiments in chemistry...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:30 | 4940198 asking4it2k
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Lets be honest here. About half of college students today should not be there. Some are simply not smart enough. Some would be better suited learning a skill/ trade.

A liberal arts degree is useless in todays economy.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:46 | 4939679 Apocalicious
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More middle management!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:54 | 4939719 NoDebt
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Higher Ed is nothing more than an upscale government works program.  If you can't stomach delivering letters for the Post Office, you probably work at a state university.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:39 | 4939956 Georgia_Boy
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As everyone here already knows, this wealthy patron prints his own legal money, so he risks little anyway.  But even still, why bother?  The government bureaucracy must be getting something out of this that helps it expand its power and stay relevant (that's the first priority of any bureaucracy).  The answer is the government does not want to stop paying the bill, because the university system is the bedrock of socialist thinking in America.  It's an unholy alliance ... when you hear about the vast increase in full time non-faculty, think diversity trainers, student counselors and psychologists for kids with stds, recruiters, social media directors, "communications specialists" to place articles in MSM outlets, and of course lots of fund-raising people for more of the same.  Turning America into a socialist paradise takes lots of obsequious talking heads, and this serves the government's agenda, so the government is happy to fund them and tell us that they're doing this FOR THE CHILLLLDREN!!1!11!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:51 | 4939683 libertus
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The whole system is completely broken just as the article says. Time to recognize that disintermediation and the internet are collapsing a traditional higher education model that was designed for the last century rather then the current day. I do not think that traditional higher education is capable of radical change because faculty and the administration wasnt to keep the party going as long as possible--damn the consequences. 

If you want real change you will need to creat it outside the system. is a new way of doing things designed from the ground up. 

In 10 years I suspect that at least 30% of the current system will be gone. Collapse is happening now.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:48 | 4939689 LawsofPhysics
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I'll keep asking until I get an answer (I have kids that will be going to college soon).


What percentage of a college's total income is spent on administrative costs?  How does this compare to 20+ years ago?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:50 | 4939704 rtalcott
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UNM hired a new prez 5-6 years ago...first thing he did was hire double digit new executive vp's....admin costs are HUGE.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:58 | 4939748 ShrNfr
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Well, you have to supervise all those compliance officers you know. And then there is the compliance officer of compliance officers. And then there is the ...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:19 | 4939841 LawsofPhysics
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My thoughts exactly.  Capital and resource mis-allocation.  Fire half the administrators and the college will function just fine. Pass that cost-savings on to students in the form of reduced tuitions and watch your application pool explode.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:49 | 4940023 Georgia_Boy
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When you lower prices and expand the available slots, you get more poor kids applying.  It's been written about a lot, that colleges prefer to cherry-pick the richer kids even as they hire moar diversity trainers.  Two kids don't typically pay the same amount for the same degree, figure that into the wealthy patron metaphor. So it's more plush dorms, less adjunct faculty, all part of the game.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 16:35 | 4940866 LawsofPhysics
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Bullshit.  More poor kids may apply.  What really matters is who you accept. 


I can promise you that a smart "poor" kid will work much much harder than a smart trust-fund brat.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:51 | 4939706 jcaz
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Let's have the college commission a study into that matter, we'll get back to you....

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:54 | 4939715 libertus
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Admin costs are pretty constant. 20% at least--its tenured faculty salaries combined by reduced teaching loads that is killing the system. This combined with the lack of transparency in terms of productivity (what students are actually learning) has created a bloated system that is ripe for disruption. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:05 | 4939773 jcaz
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Not even close.

Tenured profs aren't making any more money relative to what they were 20 yrs ago-  at least as far as State schools go.

But your assertation that Admin costs haven't become larger as a percentage of the nut is dead wrong, and typical of an administrator trying to defend their position.

There are layers upon layers of bureaucracy present today that simply did not exist 20 years ago-  the legal departments alone have taken on a life of their own.

Trying walking around a college campus, open your eyes- it's not rocket science as to where the money is going.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:15 | 4939822 Freddie
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Many or most universities went from utilitarian buildings to Class A office space plus gold plated sports facilities including a football stadium in many cases.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:11 | 4939799 Pheonyte
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The truth is the exact opposite of everything you've written here.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:16 | 4939829 LawsofPhysics
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I saw a UC study that said that Faculty:Admininstrator ratio was something like 35:1 in the 90's, but it was now 1:1.


I don't believe the faculty who are actually doing the work that generates revenue (teaching, research, etc.) have seen a significant pay raise.  I also don't believe that these folks are any more difficult to manage now, compared to 20+ years ago.  Especially in this "electronic" age.  I see an increase in administrative costs as more evidence of capital mis-allocation.


Fire half the administrators and the universities will still function just fine, but you could then lower tuitions significantly.


My two cents.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:40 | 4940478 MachoMan
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Healthcare definitely rhymes...

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:16 | 4940137 libertus
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I should be more specific with my words. Administration is the people running the place. Staff includes all the support services--they should not be included in admin IMHO. 

I find it really interesting that questioning tenured faculty privilage and compensation is verboten. I guess this protect class just does not how to work or compete in an open market. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:30 | 4939913 TBT or not TBT
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And what percent of university employees political donations don't go to their cronies in the government party?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:49 | 4939692 rtalcott
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Don't know what happened...BS Iowa State in Physics...1970-1974...tuition started @ $250/quarter and was a bit higher when I left...was a North American Van Lines driver in the summers...walked away with $4-5k/summer and that got me through the school year no problem...don't understand why it's that much more expensive now...I think I received a MUCH better education than the students here at UNM Albuquerque and they are paying a LOT more.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:57 | 4939739 CH1
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That was before the system was optimized with loans and heavy-duty brainwashing.

They have the magic certificates, and they can charge almost anything they want.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:23 | 4939869 Freddie
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Also since that time - college became a birthright.  It did not matter if the kid cannot read, they had to have the college experience.  I would guess that 45% of the kids in college should not be there.  It is a social perk or a form of baby sitting for 4+ years.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:39 | 4939967 rtalcott
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BIG problem here...(UNM)..they let anyone in and most wash out BUT it's a great scam...the first few years have to be the cheapest...all entry level bring them in and take the money for 2 years and then they are gone before they may become more expensive.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:56 | 4939741 jcaz
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Ya but there are a bunch of new laws of Physics since then......  BUWAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same here- U of Iowa undergrad 1978-82,  never paid more than $1000 per semester,  covered that no problem by working at Jerry's Amoco.

Difference between then and now- the vast adminisitration level necessary to figure out how to spend the flood of money coming thru the front doors- bureaucracy out of control.....

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:00 | 4939754 CH1
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U of Iowa... working at Jerry's Amoco

LOL... I probably bought gas from you.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:07 | 4939781 jcaz
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Sweet!  We were the only gas monkeys in the state that got paid on straight commission-  I prolly stuck an icepick in your sidewall while I was pumping it and sold you a new tire!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:50 | 4940039 CH1
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Nah, then I would certainly remember you. :)

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:07 | 4939772 NotApplicable
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What happened is exactly what's laid out in this article. State U. grew fat and happy off of OPM, which was not available in the 70's. Today's resident student is paying $277 per credit hour in tuition, before fees.

How much does Mayor Hoiberg earn there these days?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:41 | 4939975 rtalcott
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HOLY SH*T!  I was paying $250/quarter and taking OVER 20 hours every quarter...$277 per credit hour!!!!  DAMN!

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:52 | 4939702 NoDebt
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Institutions of Higher-Indoctrination will never be cut off by the government because they support the government by churning out statist robots ("tomorrow's leaders"), saddled with state debt.  It the perfect circle of mutual symbiosis.

Same reason you never see a nationwide MSM news outlet go off the air, no matter how few viewers they have (MSNBC).  They are propoganda outlets.  They'll NEVER shut them down or cut them off.

And, by the way, student loan forgiveness is coming.... and you're paying for it.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:52 | 4939710 DaveyJones
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Funny thing, the house and the school house both suffered the same results from the same treatment  

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:52 | 4939713 WTFUD
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Easy Ponzi Entry Level Lobbyist Fodder. Why would they not keep this ' Cash Cow ' going Full Tilt until MELTDOWN?

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:54 | 4939720 Antifaschistische
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Wouldn't be a novel concept, if those responsible for "educating" actually accepted responsibility for getting those they "educate" jobs.

.gov has completely removed that incentive.   goal - debt slavery via excessive tuition and high compensation for college staff.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 11:57 | 4939747 NOTaREALmerican
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Big-Ed, just another in a LONG LONG line of Big-GOV scams: Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState – and (now) Big-Space.

Can't expect one group of people to have a Big-GOV scam - some for 60+ years - and not expect everybody want in on the goodness.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:11 | 4940121 DaveyJones
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Big-Fat People at Walmart  

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:01 | 4939762 jal
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If I had a rich daddy with a good business, and daddy is teaching me the "business", why would I need to go to university? What would a university teach me that would help me get a job and put bread on the table that my rich daddy is already giving me?


Why do rich kids go to university??????

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:07 | 4939782 CCanuck
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To paaaartaaaay bitchez.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:08 | 4939787 NotApplicable
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Networking and resume filler, of course.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:12 | 4939788 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Why do rich kids go to university?

Contacts.    There are two career paths available for access into the top 20% of society: the science based (introvert) track and the bullshit based (extrovert) track.    The bullshit track is higher risk but has much higher payout potential.    So,  if you have a rich daddy, you still might want contacts for when you decide - for example - to loot the company you inherit.  The people who will have the best knowledge of looting will be those on the bullshit track (law, finance, and other professions in which being a sociopath helps).   Knowing people who know how to bullshit is the most valuable thing you'll get out of college. 

The 1st law of bullshit:  ANYTHING + bullshit => more value for the bullshit creator and the THING the bullshit is applied too.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:32 | 4939925 TBT or not TBT
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Thanks, that was a fun comment.  

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:10 | 4939796 jcaz
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...To get cheap loans for their cars, of course.....

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:08 | 4939786 Reaper
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The government is making us pay for all chiefs and no Indians education system, which will fail.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:35 | 4939948 TBT or not TBT
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There were a lot of Indians in engineering and computer science degree programs, last time I checked.   Oh you meant the redskin, Tonto, feathers and facepaint kind, not the dot head kind.  My bad.  

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 15:16 | 4940621 Almost Solvent
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I told my 5 year old nephew to sit indian style. He looked at me sideways. My sister in law says "they call it criss cross apple sauce now"



Wed, 07/09/2014 - 17:08 | 4940968 F.A. Hayek
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My kids tried to pull that on me, but I stuck to my guns. It's still Indian Style, and they now also agree.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:18 | 4939834 Grin Bagel
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check out Chile's sinking academic/social contribution resulting from total dismantling of all public education under Pinochet's nazis-esq privetazation reforms. greed or beuracracy = cancers

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:23 | 4939868 Atomizer
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Good, I was robbed at gunpoint heading back to Omni hotel on St Louis in the French quarters. I have lovely pictures, never will go back. A liberal infested cesspool. 

Had to spend two days cleaning up my bank accounts and mobile device they stole. Still alive, just compiled to robbery instructions. Will never return to that hellhole again. 

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:34 | 4939934 mendigo
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Such a bullshit article.

I have to wonder the source and motivation for posting.

Classic example of making a pretense of railing against the status quo while rationalizing it.

I wish gw could make an example of this peice as myself i went to university for kids who dont talk so good.

What is a reasonable cost for adult to occupy a shared room and add to this reasoble cost for person to sit in large gropu lecture about calc2.

I get about 4x $400/mon(room) + 4x $400/mon(food) + 5x $300(classes) = $5700/semester

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:37 | 4939961 I Write Code
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The value of the elite schools has risen, so has their application pool, and so have their prices.  It's rational, if a bit ugly.  And, they tend to grant fat discounts (scholarships and low-interest loans) to middle-class and lower students.

But the high list prices give cover to the second-rank schools and even state universities.  The university of California prices have gone up hugely in the last thirty years, as state budgets are taken over by funding schools and food and healthcare for illegals, and utterly out of whack pensions for government employees.

The actual cost of providing that education has not changed much that I can see. 

A lot of the problem, I repeat at every opportunity, is the for-profit educational companies, that engage in heavy-duty fraud on the government dime, always have, and got extra wall-street funding in the late 1980s and since.  Yes they provide some value, but also leave huge numbers of real or fraudulent student dropouts with huge loan burdens, and are probably very overpriced even for the best cases.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 12:40 | 4939974 SheepDog-One
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Degrees are pretty much just worthless these days.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:39 | 4940220 Stanley Kubrick
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It's simple. 

We saw the same underlying root problem that drove housing prices far higher than the rise in incomes (a global phenomenon).  It's the EASY LENDING, STUPID!  Take away the Gubermint-sponsored lending, and you'll quickly see a return to normalicy.

If a kid can fog a mirror, he's given $100k .

What other industries than real esate & college enjoy such an unfair advantage of levering up on borrowed EASY MONEY?

Blame the usual suspects - especially THE FED.




Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:57 | 4940299 SillyWabbits
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In the first place, God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made school boards.

Mark Twain

The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.

Abraham Lincoln

A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.

Theodore Roosevelt

The school boards control the curriculum to ensure what they deem worthy shape the following generations.  Hence we have degrees in the most absurd studies: most of which inculcate the steal what you can when you can mentality of today.

All in a post modernistic critical theory classroom, preaching the destruction of Western Philosophy.

10. “The Science of Superheroes.”


Students at the University of California, Irvine can look forward to learning the laws of physics through studying the actions of popular superheroes. The class uses theoretical models to explore what it really means to be faster than a speeding bullet, or to be able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. The professor of the course says that using popular culture in the classroom helps students to overcome the fear of learning about science.

9. “The Science of Harry Potter.”


Superheroes not your thing? Perhaps this course at Frostberg State University has the magical touch you are looking for. This honors course allows students to explore the theoretical physics behind the magic found in J.K. Rowlings’ popular books. Students will explore the anti-gravity properties of flying broomsticks among other topics. Only a muggle could not enjoy learning science in this class.

8. “Zombies! The Living Dead in Literature.”


With the popularity of Zombie games and books recently, it is a “no-brainer” that the University of Alabama offers this course on zombies throughout literature. The course is so popular, that the professor even podcasts it on ITunes so zombie lovers everywhere can share in learning about the undead.

7. “The Office, Awesome, Awkward and Addicting.”


Don’t want to take a course on Thursday night because you don’t want to miss your favorite show? Then enroll at Oberlin College where students can take this course that discusses both traditional literary elements in “The Office” but also provides an analysis of the unusual filmmaking techniques used to give the show its unique feel.

6. “Simpsons and Philosophy.”


The University of California at Berkley is known for being a school for free-thinkers, and this course is among the most popular offerings at the University. Students spend a semester looking at the creator’s philosophical views about life, religion and politics, and complete the course by writing their own episode of the popular satirical television show.

5. “The Art and Science of Beer: History, Technology, and Culture.”

Surly Brewing Company Brewery Tour | April 2011
 photo credit: McAli333

What could be cooler than a class dedicated exclusively to the study of beer? Indiana University offers this multi-disciplinary course that looks at beer in many different ways, from its historical origins, to the way technology has evolved to create new types of the popular beverage. Despite its focus, coming to class with a hangover is still strictly a no-no.

4. “Drag: Theories of Transgenderism and Performance.”


While students might sign up for this course at Hollins University thinking it is an easy credit, they might be surprised by the long history of cross-dressing in theatrical history. Students can expect to learn about the evolution of this unusual art form from the ancient Greek playwrights, through Milton Berle and modern cabaret performers.

3. “Ufology.”


Where else, but the Nevada, the state that is home to “Area 51” would offer this in-depth look at UFOs in popular culture, history and literature. Students will study actual claimed UFO events, and use their knowledge of philosophy to evaluate the credibility and influences on each so-called “encounter.” Students at Western Nevada College wouldn’t be blamed if they saw something unusual in the sky on the way home from this unusual course.

2. “Nuthin’ but a ‘G” Thang.”


In his day, Shakespeare was considered to be a writer for the great unwashed lower classes of society. Oberlin Experimental College offers a look at the bards of the future in this exploration of the role of gangsta rap in art, music, and popular culture. While it might seem like the coolest English class ever, students can expect to delve into the classic elements of literature as expressed by Snoop Dogg and his contemporaries.

1. “Underwater Basket Weaving.”

It is an old joke that every student wants to take this course in college, so synonymous is the idea of underwater basket weaving with an easy “A” elective. Some schools such as the University of California, San Diego actually offer this as an enrichment course to challenge the notion that basket weaving is a simple skill to learn. Students will learn to soak reeds and sticks, and in some cases even don snorkels and fins to take to the water to try this popular class.


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 13:58 | 4940301 q99x2
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Up my FAFSA. Yellen Muthafukka

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:14 | 4940377 therover
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The only way prices will go down at this point, is if the demand is choked off.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:23 | 4940421 Itchy and Scratchy
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3 Sectors of raging unbridled inflation:

1. Education = government

2. Military = government

3. Health = government

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 14:58 | 4940536 Dingleberry
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You really got to hand it to liberals.

Fucking liberal colleges financially sodomized their liberal-indoctrinated students into de facto lifelong debt, and the students actually call for MORE government money to hang themselves with.

On top of that, instead of asking why tuition rates have skyrocketed....all they seem to get their panties in a wad over is a couple of point bump in interest rates courtesy of you, the taxpayer.

Judging by the risk, their rates should be double digit. Current default rates are in the teens and set to go far higher.  I can't get rid of them. Okay.....try getting blood from a stone. No cash flow coming in to pay offf a loan is still NO CASH FLOW. And somebody has to carry that bad debt. Guess who that is?

I heard a ho-bag on CNBC say "it seems crazy that these kids pay more than a mortgage (currently around 4%)" suggesting the risk of a mortgage is the same as the risk for a pothead, liberal-brained kid.  I guess she never heard of "collateral" and "credit history".

And before any of you fools tell me tuition raised so much because the states cuts funding...I will remind you that private and for-profit schools (who receive no such aid) jacked their tuition rates to hell as well.

To all you youngsters that had a 4-year bash of hash and ho's....I hope it was worth it.

Now pay the Mother fucker. And no...Obama ain't gonna save you.  The banksters got your ass now.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 15:26 | 4940663 Lostinfortwalton
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I live close to the University of Virginia in Charlottesville. The extremely liberal woman president is paid about $700,000 a year. But wait - she is also paid a full sociology professor's salary for teaching one course - figure an additional $150,000 or so. And there is more; the university's law school hired her husband to teach there so figure in about $200,000 additional. Finally her son got hired as an instructor on a tenure track position, maybe $50,000 additional.

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 15:56 | 4940762 Itchy and Scratchy
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U forgot to mention she is on sabbatical next year

Wed, 07/09/2014 - 16:44 | 4940891 F.A. Hayek
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Read Economic Facts and Fallacies. It's a very good, easy to digest book disproving many economic misperceptions the media would love for us to swallow. Tuition increases is an excellent section of the book and touches on a lot from the article.


Wed, 07/09/2014 - 17:47 | 4941039 Radical Marijuana
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Discussing "higher education" in the USA is like discussing an individual who has an almost totally metastasized cancer. The source of the problem was the success of the MAD Money As Debt system, which became the State Religion that dominated the American economy at an exponential rate. THE "MONEY" LENT TO STUDENTS IS CREATED OUT OF NOTHING AS DEBTS, WHICH FRAUD IS ENFORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT.

Those student "loans" are merely the most obscene example of how that system was developed by the people who gained their privilege of making the public "money" supply out of nothing, as debts. Since EVERYTHING in the economic system is based on that enforced fraud, the established systems must attempt to control everything through regulating their abilities to create that "money" out of nothing, in light of the other side of that situation, which is that "money" can disappear back to nothing.

The American economic system became debt slavery, that ran away at an exponential rate to generate numbers which are now debt insanities. The American economic system is now terminally sick and insane. Most students are adapting the best that they individually may to live inside of those systems ... IF, IF, IF, American students were taught anything that was really worthwhile, then they would be taught to understand how their society actually operates as an energy system, which necessarily follows the principles and methods of organized crime. They would be taught that there are NO ways to reform the established systems adequately. Rather, they would be taught about the necessity of their being some monetary revolutions, as the only sufficient ways to cope with the real nature of the political problems that they were born into.

In my view, this kind of article continues to be too superficial regarding the issue of "government intervention." The real history of American government has been the ways that one special interest group after another was able to dominate the funding of the political processes, in order to corrupt that government, in order that every area of domestic and foreign policy became tailored to benefit the short-term special interests that were dominating the funding of their puppet politicians (meanwhile, the majority of people were steadily reduced to become more brainwashed Zombie Sheeple.)

One of the first, and foremost, of the special interest groups that corrupted the government of the USA were the international bankers, which were able to step by step create the enforced frauds of the Money As Debt systems. That system has automatically been getting worse, faster, at an exponential rate. Students today have the bad luck to be born into that political system at the time when that metastasized social cancer is reaching its critical turning points. Or to slightly change the metaphor, young people today are being born into the times when the growth of the enforced frauds of the financial parasites is reaching the turning point where it is killing its host, rather than still being able to grow by feeding off its host.

This article makes the almost totally trivial recommendation that: "If we care about our children and want them to stop taking on more and more debt to get a degree for a tougher and tougher job market we need to break the current cycle."

The PROBLEM is those children are being born into a system where MONEY IS BASED ON DEBT, which is a government enforced fraud, operated by private banks, from the Federal Reserve Board on down. Inside that system, SOMEBODY must continue to create more money out of nothing, in order to keep that system going. SOMEBODY must go deeper and deeper into debt, so that the established MAD Money As Debt treadmill can keep on spinning. At the present time, the MAD nature of the established systems of government enforced bankster frauds has made student "loans" become one of the biggest "assets" on the books of the government, and one of the significant domestic ways that the established debt treadmill for the entire economic system is still kept going.

Of course, in overall absolute, global, terms, student "loans" are still relatively trivial. However, they are the most obscenely symbolic ways in which controlling civilization through enforced frauds destroys the prospects for the longer term future of that civilization. The "educations" that young Americans are receiving are most crucially based on massive LIES BY OMISSION regarding everything that I have reviewed in my comment above.

Any articles, and any comments, which do not address the degree to which the established economic systems have become like almost totally metastasized cancers, but rather, propose any possible reforms, within that Money As Debt system, rather than recognizing that there must be revolutions, are operating out of the wrong frame of reference!

Thu, 07/24/2014 - 05:57 | 4997095 Melody7773
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Some can really say that prices are getting bigger everywhere. But as for me it is not an explanation when it comes to education. Funny, but every single year I think that colleges and universities will be left without new applicants. But then a new study year comes and I get surprised. It is just seems to me that with the price our government has today it is very difficult to afford going to the college or university especially (buy professional thesis online here if you in uni). Since kids and their parents find this money, the government thinks that having prices even higher is totally alright.

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